Su-34 bomber increases combat effectiveness

Multifunctional front-line bomber Su-34 is being finalized for new aviation weapons of destruction (TSA) and advanced avionics (BREO), the military-industrial complex said on Tuesday.

Now there are special flight tests (SLI) to expand the combat effectiveness of the aircraft

- Said the source agency.

He clarified that earlier, during the first phase of SLI, the Su-34 "had the opportunity to use more advanced TSA and improved avionics, in particular, electronic warfare (EW)."

During the current stage, the Su-34 will be tested with both new TSA and some new or modified on-board equipment systems. In particular, - adapted for new means of destruction in order to maximize the combat effectiveness of the aircraft

- Said the source agency.

According to him, "the leadership of the Air and Space Forces (VKS) of Russia highly appreciates the combat work of the Su-34 in Syria, and the experience of the combat use of the aircraft makes it possible to optimize the direction of its improvement."

It is expected that the Su-34 should replace the Su-24 planes operated by the VKS almost in full. In the past few years, the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant has been supplying Sukhoi 16 airplanes with 18-34 per annum. In 2017, VCS will get 16 Su-34

- Said the source agency.

The Su-34 front bomber, developed by the Sukhoi Design Bureau and serially produced at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant (part of the Sukhoi company), is designed to destroy both ground and water objects of the enemy; it can hit moving targets of even small size. Also, the aircraft has the ability to destroy air targets at any time of the day or night under any meteorological conditions, reports "Interfax-AVN"

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[svp67]

Good news, but this one, from the EXCELLENT category:

Now, several authoritative sources have stated at once that the first flight of the Su-57 with new engine. There is no official information on this subject. According to reports, the plane took off on the morning of December 5th. New engines are installed on the prototype T-50-2 (tail number 052)

[Herculesic]

Well, as they say In a good way! And God grant that everything goes perfectly!

[activator]

Quote: svp67

The good news, like this one, is EXCELLENT:

Well, the news about the modernization of Su 34 can be considered as confirmation of the words of the warriors wow that in Syria, su 34 did not live up to their expectations, all because of the same electronics

[hrych]

Quote: activator

Well, the news about the modernization of Su 34 can be considered as confirmation of the words of warriors wow,

Warrior Wow pilot Su-34?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: hrych

Warrior Wow pilot Su-34?

There you go, grandmother and Hel Haavir ... Holy-holy ...

[Chertt]

Quote: activator

that in Syria, su 34 did not live up to their expectations, all because of the same electronics

There is normal planned work to improve the new aircraft, taking into account the combat experience. Although I was alarmed that having a sufficient number of Su-34s, the main work, all the same, did the Su-24

[activator]

Quote: Chertt

There is normal planned work to improve the new aircraft, taking into account combat experience

Tell me, what is the shed at the landfill that you need to get from a height of 7-8 km, because below 6 you can already run into the MANPADS, is it different from the shed in Syria? and if you hit a training ground, but not in Syria, then questions arise. SU 34 is a bomber. Its main task is to lay bombs at a target, and it would be possible to tolerate bombs if he could cope with his duties and by the way how could one check the Papuans reb.

[Chertt]

Quote: activator

to me than a shed at a training ground, different from a shed in Syria

It’s even useless to explain, These are not comparable categories.

Quote: activator

and by the way, how could a reb on the Papuans be checked.

In addition to the Papuans, there were the US Air Force and other NATO countries, the Air Force and ground services of Israel, Jordan, Zalivnikov, separately Turkey. You won’t find such a successful training ground.

[activator]

Quote: Chertt

It’s even useless to explain, These are not comparable categories.

Are you serious or joking? because I don’t even know how to regard your words. That is, you agree that the tests were carried out on the basis of ... for show's sake.

Quote: Chertt

In addition to the Papuans, there were the US Air Force and other NATO countries,

Well, they were present, but they didn’t counteract it, and then how did they manage to cope with all this, Su 24, as I understand it, everything is fine with reb .

[Kasym]

Su-24 differs from Su-34 in that:
1. Can fly at low altitude with enveloping terrain.
2. Uses more types of ammunition. Over 30. The problem is that everyone needs their own sight. Agree that NAR, AB, AP, missiles for various purposes need different sights.
It took a lot of time to “teach” the Su-24. Therefore, we will hear a lot about the modernization of the Su-34. He still needs a lot of attention and time to be given to designers and engineers. He’s completely “green”.

[activator]

Quote: Kasym

Therefore, we will hear a lot about the modernization of the Su-34. He still needs a lot of attention and time to be given to designers and engineers. He’s completely “green”.

Yes, I actually don’t deny it, but I think that in Syria they stopped using Su 34 not because of the systems of electronic warfare. By and large it was not particularly demanded and could leave some for the combat mission, and some for modernization. that the main reason was different, and expressed his thoughts in the first post.

[okko077]

Su-24M differs from Su-34 as a Cossack from a Mercedes.
The Su-24M has an extremely small combat radius, and even in small Syria it is forced to fly with hanging tanks, which significantly reduces the combat load.
The Su-24M has extremely low-cost engines, very high time and cost expenses for preparing for a second flight, very outdated equipment, to put it mildly, and low reliability at the lowest acceptable level .... Very high labor costs for 1 hour of flight and increased requirements to airfield equipment and support .... In short, an archaic, outdated 2 + generation aircraft. It is used for hopelessness, because there are no others or not enough, and only thanks to SVP-24., Which survived and extended the life of the SU-24M, contrary to military leadership and by a lucky chance ....
The ability to fly at low altitude is short-term and only to overcome the air defense zone and only in manual mode ... Yes, and this mode is constantly prohibited and has a lot of restrictions, especially now when the complexes are on the extreme line of wear and you can’t talk about high-quality work in automatic mode ....
When were the Su-34 avionics designed? Here! .. Obviously, SVP-24 with simple ammunition works better than the new complex on the 34th .... This is the reason for the timid, shy attempts to quietly fix something ....

[okko077]

Phrase increase combat effectiveness in the title means that they are trying to ensure normal operation ... Sukhoi is ashamed to ask CJSC "Heffest" to install something like SVP-34 on Su-34 .... At least for those already released ... Or rather they feel sorry for their money that the budget allocates to them .... Here military leaders could put their word. But their amoeba, unscrupulousness and cowardice are simply amazing .....

[okko077]

The Americans have something to learn .... You can take the methodology in the name of the aircraft modifications, For example, name the previously issued Su-34s with an outdated complex - Su-34 block 1, Make a modification with the complex from Hephaestus CJSC and call Block2. A new option from the company Sukhoi is to name block 3. Make comparative tests of block 2 with block 3 and, based on these tests and the cost, make decisions on finalizing the already issued Su-34s and on a set of new ones that are just being produced ... And in parallel, develop block 4 ... ..

[activator]

Quote: okko077

okko077

Thanks, informative.

[Piramidon]

Quote: activator

and with reb it would be possible to tolerate ... ... and by the way, how could it be on Papuans?

Why endure if you can upgrade everything in parallel? It does not interfere.
And why did you decide that the electronic warfare was tested on the Papuans, and not in other flight tests?

[activator]

Quote: Piramidon

And why did you decide that the electronic warfare was tested on the Papuans, and not in other flight tests?

Yes, actually from the article

According to him, "the leadership of the Air and Space Forces (VKS) of Russia highly appreciates the combat work of the Su-34 in Syria, and the experience of the combat use of the aircraft makes it possible to optimize the direction of its improvement."

in particular, electronic warfare (EW) means. "

As far as I know, in Syria there was no active counteraction to either air defense or fighter aviation. So I also had a question on whom there should be tested.

[Piramidon]

Quote: activator

So I also had a question on whom there to experience reb.

And besides the barmaley themselves, there is the so-called Western coalition led by mattresses. And our aviation often intersects with them. In addition, there are all sorts of Turks and Jews around Syria. Why not blur the “eyes” of their radars. No wonder the Yankees were already whining that our planes could not see their sights.

[activator]

Quote: Piramidon

And our aviation often intersects with them

But there were no clashes.

Quote: Piramidon

No wonder the Yankees were already whining that our planes did not see their sights.

That is, everything is fine but it is urgent to upgrade. And sou 24 somehow cope.

[AshiSolo]

Firstly, stop writing "reb", I beg you, the PPC hurts the eye. Secondly, your very question about why modernize electronic warfare systems in the absence of such threats in Syria is already an indicator. And the same experts pancake answer you ...

The whole point is that you can keep the plane (tank, infantry fighting vehicle, armored personnel carrier, armored personnel carrier, pepelats) in the mode of military or factory tests, constantly improving. But the customer, he is the army, asks for something that flies, bombs and beats off in the air right now. Because the choice is small. Either a gravitsap with bombs and the possibility to modify it later, or throw grenades from the Po-2 cockpit.

Our sworn, by the way, do exactly the same. Shoals are darkness, but planes fly and upgrade.

Well, I would not begin to knit modernization with Syria. Only indirectly. They set the task for the pilots to see how the electronic warfare systems work, they had time and sorties - they made conclusions. Something needs to be changed, and so were the plans - that’s modernization. The rest is so ... Empty info.

[poquello]

in the ass aces from the "international" "coalition"

[11 black]

Quote: activator

Tell me what the shed at the training ground to which you need to get from a height of 7-8 km

Firstly, the height is incorrect.
Secondly - work "on target" and "on target" are two psychological differences.

Quote: activator

and if you hit the training ground, but not in Syria, then questions arise

And why did you get that in "Syria is not." Show me where the Su-34 totally missed — I haven’t heard that. Therefore - no questions arise.

Quote: activator

SU 34 is a bomber, its main task is to put bombs in a target

This is not so - the Su-34 can also lay missiles at the target, and give air combat if necessary, and who needs to close their eyes with electronic warfare systems — a unique machine that immediately replaces 2 American aircraft alone (the Growler and the usual F / A-18).
Case study - Georgia. One single Su-34 blinded the Georgian radar, and then gouged the adversary.

[Moore]

Quote: Chertt

Although I was alarmed that having a sufficient number of Su-34s, the main work, all the same, did the Su-24

As people from there say, the Su-34 is an excellent machine, naturally, with its own “but”, which consists in the time of preparation for departure and after-flight service. In this, he is no different from foreign pepelats of the same generation and complexity.

[hrych]

Let the warrior better decide with the F-35, here you need to do something, or else he’s strangling the pilots, then the Siberian Cranes are crippling, then he’s falling apart He is not invisible, but some kind of poltergeist
http://3mv.ru/101217-sluchay-k-vostoku-ot-okinavy
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[poquello]

Quote: hrych

Let the warrior better decide with the F-35, here you need to do something, or else he’s strangling the pilots, then the Siberian Cranes are crippling, then he’s falling apart He is not invisible, but some kind of poltergeist
http://3mv.ru/101217-sluchay-k-vostoku-ot-okinavy
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this is a reset of a false goal

[PalBor]

Quote: activator

Quote: svp67

The good news, like this one, is EXCELLENT:

Well, the news about the modernization of Su 34 can be considered as confirmation of the words of the warriors wow that in Syria, su 34 did not live up to their expectations, all because of the same electronics

There is simply no limit to perfection.

[Fitter65]

And we, on a couple of boards, also failed this week, the frosts turned out to be very large for them, they froze. The rest are really no problem, in general, there is a natural process of mastering the technology.

[hrych]

Quote: svp67

The good news

The landfill is always small, real weapons are needed to test weapons. Some unleash wars specifically for this. By the way, the Su-57 will be inferior in speed only to the MiG-31, as well as in the practical ceiling, and some irresponsible bloggers say they decided to try to catch up with our walker

[Vadim237]

This aircraft will have a great prospect in the arms market, and as part of the Russian Air Force, it will be a curiosity - piece by piece, in view of the high cost, the sixth generation is already waiting for the Ministry of Defense.

[NN52]

Vadim237

Well, there are no words for your comment, you better keep silent ....
For such a price in the global arms market, he has prospects? What are you smoking there?
57 will only be with us, like amers 22.
You already have the 10th generation in your head >> ..

[NEXUS]

Quote: NN52

57 will only be with us, like amers 22.

That's right ... although maybe the Indians will still reconsider their decision on the SU-57 twin for their Air Force, who knows. But single, I think it will not go for export, for the same reason that the F-22 did not even sell mattresses to its allies.
At the same time, for the next 10 years, the main heavy MFI will be SU-35, which is also being improved.

[Vadim237]

Wait four years and the Su 57 will be on the global arms market - as opposed to the F 35.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

Wait four years and the Su 57 will be on the global arms market - as opposed to the F 35.

There will be no export SU-57 ... there will be the 30th, and the 35th crackers and MIG-35.

[Vadim237]

Moscow Region understands that it’s been late with the creation of the fifth generation for 20 years, the USA is now developing the sixth generation and Russia will have to fend off so as not to be constantly catching up. It is expected that by 2030 the sixth generation will rise into the air.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

It is expected that by 2030 the sixth generation will rise into the air.

Do you generally understand the requirements not only for the 6th generation fighters, but in general the concept of the new generation aircraft in principle?
Next-generation fighters should be in almost all respects better than the previous aircraft. If you do not take into account the very concept and requirements for fighters of the 6th generation, which simply do not exist yet, answer me a question - can you imagine today what kind of car it would be better than both the Raptor and our SU-57?
All that is claimed is just plans, desires and some kind of attempt to work out some kind of intelligible concept for 6th generation fighters and nothing more.

[Vadim237]

Declare, but others do: low radar visibility, the ability to use weapons in all weather conditions day and night, develop hypersonic speeds of up to 7 Machs on afterburner, propulsion system ramjet + rocket engine, flight altitude of up to 60 kilometers, a prototype of such a combined engine was tested at the stand in 2016, to use weapons against ground, surface, air and low-orbit targets, control in a pilot and unmanned version - This is the sixth generation.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

low radar signature, the ability to use weapons in all weather conditions day and night

This 5th generation can .. and even the 4th ..

Quote: Vadim237

develop hypersonic speed up to 7 Machs on the afterburner, propulsion system ramjet + LRE, flight altitude up to 60 kilometers,

We are not that aircraft in the form of a fighter are not capable of giving birth to such performance characteristics now, we are the RCC Zircon with much more modest characteristics which year we bring ...

Quote: Vadim237

This is the sixth generation.

I can draw such a concept here ... here I’ll add one more thing to your writings - the aircraft should be either two-medium or three-medium. Does that sound beautiful? And in the metal it will appear only after a hundred, or even 150 ...
All that you wrote is fantasy mixed up with Wishlist. And by the 30th year, this will not happen.

[Vadim237]

You will not have it, but we will have it - because: we count, design, build, test, and I will continue to supply components of varying complexity to order for any machine-building industry.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

You will not have it, but we will have it - because: we count, design, build, test, and I will continue to supply components of varying complexity to order for any machine-building industry.

Yes, and God grant you health. Who is against it?

[sogdy]

Quote: Vadim237

and we will have

Quote: Vadim237

and I will continue to supply components of varying complexity to order

Quote: Vadim237

propulsion system ramjet + rocket engine, flight altitude up to 60 kilometers,

Perhaps you should first learn a school physics course. 1938 - the plane (!) Reached an altitude of 160 km as part of the Strela project. Estimate the parameters on the fingers. He took off, rose, spent at a given height for 28 minutes and landed on his own.
Now tell us, what tasks should such an aircraft perform?

[Vadim237]

Its main path is the export of weapons and Sukhoi will push it there - with all its might, and the sixth generation in Russia has been under development for the fourth year.

[NN52]

Vadim237

The working counterbalance is now f 35, this is Su 35 C (NOTE PZHL INDEX).
Four years later, Su 35 with ROFAR will be exported .... and this is not my brov, but knowledge ....

[NEXUS]

Quote: NN52

The working counterbalance is now f 35, this is Su 35 C (NOTE PZHL INDEX).

This is not entirely correct ... The SU-35 is a twin-engine heavy IFI, and its main task is to establish dominance in the air, and the F-35 is more of a bomber than a fighter, and single-engine from the category of medium fighters. The F-35 vis-a-vis should be a MIG-35 in good terms, or an average 5th generation fighter from Mikoyan.

Quote: NN52

Four years later, Su 35 with ROFAR will be exported .... and this is not my brov, but knowledge ....

Not only ROFAR, but also the arsenal ... the long arm in the person of KS-172 will be adopted, possibly even with a redesigned guidance head ...

[NN52]

NEXUS

In something, I agree with you ... Su 35 C should be compared with F 22.
But then with what to compare at the moment f 35? we have nothing easy with one engine yet ...
And why is it sure that ROFAR cars will go for export? Well, let the sight see 500 km, and missiles? RVV database how much can be suspended on the Su 35, Mig 35?
One?
And on MiG 31 more ...
Do you catch my thought?

[NEXUS]

Quote: NN52

But then with what to compare at the moment f 35?

After all, I wrote either with MIG-35 (which is not yet in the series), or with a 5-generation fighter from Mikoyanovtsy (which also is not there, but I really want it to be) ... by the way, according to the latter, there was a statement by representatives of the MIG Design Bureau that they develop such a machine on an initiative basis. At what stage this development is now known only to God.

Quote: NN52

And why is it sure that ROFAR cars will go for export?

Not to say that export versions will be with ROFAR ... rather with AFAR.

Quote: NN52

RVV database how much can be suspended on the Su 35, Mig 35?
One?

With a mass of 750 kg, I think more than one or even two ...

Quote: NN52

And on MiG 31 more ...

MIG-31? I don’t think that this missile will be put on the 31st ... it is being developed for the SU-30, SU-35 and PAK FA ...

[NN52]

NEXUS

They are already on BM .... and there were launches, and were made for him ... in the sense of 31 ...
Now it’s scratching turnips, how to hang just one thing under 35 and how it will look on it ...
I don’t know about 57 ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: NN52

I don’t know about 57 ...

I also have some doubts about the SU-57 with the KS-172 ... Somewhere I came across infa that the developers altogether refused external suspension on it, relying on 8 or 10 missiles located in the internal compartment, planning to bring the number of shoved missiles up to 12 pieces ... here is such infa ... wait and see ...

[Vadim237]

Something Su 35 is not very popular among other states, at arms exhibitions - they are all waiting for a new one.

[activator]

Quote: Vadim237

Its main path is the export of weapons and Sukhoi will push it there - with all its might, and the sixth generation in Russia has been under development for the fourth year.

I'll remember.

[bouncyhunter]

Hello my friend ! Great news on the Su-34, and especially on the Su-57! And let the spiteful critics continue to praise mattresses flying.

[hrych]

Hello White Brother !!!

Quote: bouncyhunter

spiteful letters continue to praise mattresses letaki

With these invisibles, as with Andersen’s fairy tale “The New King’s Dress”. Fraudsters (Lockheed and Martin) convinced that the new dress was made of such a thin fabric that it would be practically invisible to fools. We are fools here and say that the king is naked !!!

[bouncyhunter]

Let them convince those who buy these prodigies with their tales. But why should we lie to ourselves?

[Going]

Only work up to a sweat can bring results, and drying is hard workers and they demonstrate progress, as if all-crawlers did not cry. Good evening honest people!

[hrych]

Quote: Going

Good evening honest people!

[Viktorfi]

Quote: hrych

The landfill is always small, real weapons are needed to test weapons

And why the fighting in this case?
It’s one thing if the enemy is in the air, if electronic warfare is used, avoiding the enemy’s air defense systems and so on.

And here, no special skill is required that differs from the training ground ....

[hrych]

Quote: Viktorfi

And here, no special skill is required that differs from the training ground ...

Back to the ground. Does it make a difference to shoot a paper target and a living person? Secondly, the target in Syria, escapes, hides, disguises itself. This landfill is remote from the homeland, has its own climatic and relief features. By the way, the enemy has means of destruction, the same helicopter pilots practice shaving flight. There is a working out of interaction with allies, ground units (real, combat), etc. There is no training ground that can not portray it.

[activator]

Quote: hrych

Back to the ground. Does it make a difference to shoot a paper target and a living person? Secondly, the target in Syria, escapes, hides, disguises itself.

We are about bonboners

[PalBor]

Quote: svp67

Good news, but this one, from the EXCELLENT category:

Now, several authoritative sources have stated at once that the first flight of the Su-57 with new engine. There is no official information on this subject. According to reports, the plane took off on the morning of December 5th. New engines are installed on the prototype T-50-2 (tail number 052)

Yes, TASS just reported. The flight lasted 17 minutes, passed normally.

[Tektor]

the first flight of the Su-57 with a new engine

Even in the joys of the strong Massandra sherry, I took a sip in moderation: I was waiting for this event. In fact, we made a 5th generation conquest fighter, almost, i.e. when the second engine is screwed.

[Solomon Kane]

"On December 5, 2017, the latest Russian fifth-generation T-50 fighter with a 2nd stage engine made its first flight at the Gromov Flight Research Institute named after M. Gromov. The flight duration was 17 minutes. The flight was carried out in accordance with the conditions of the flight mission," they said in the press service.

The flight was performed by the Hero of Russia, the chief pilot of Sukhoi Company PJSC Sergey Bogdan.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: svp67

Su-57 with a new engine.

Yes, Russia24 reported a flight with a Stage 2 engine.

[opus]

Quote: svp67

New engines installed on the prototype T-50-2 (tail number 052)

T-50-2 052 The second flight prototype.

November 2011, XNUMX
This is before the T-50-6, when they were eliminated (well, or tried to be eliminated), the problems associated with the strength of the fuselage.

at the request of the T-50 developers, the former commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, Mikhailov, has repeatedly reduced technical requirements for the maximum speed of a fighter. First, from 2500 km / h to 2300 km / h, then to 2100 km / h.

Put on it a turbomachine with a weight on 20-25% more ..... suicide
look



Is the board number XXUMX repainted (and reinforced essno) ... or?
Or did the magazines screw up?

[Vadim237]

Something is not believed - how they could make and send gliders that do not withstand the specified loads.

[opus]

Quote: Vadim237

I don’t believe it - how could they make and send gliders into flight,

what is it about?
T-50-2 052 manufactured by KhZK. I'm only on this:

Quote: svp67

According to available data, the plane took off in the morning of December 5. New engines installed on the prototype T-50-2 (tail number 052)

expressed doubt.

[Herculesic]

The usual expansion of the use of the nomenclature of both weapons and special equipment. It seems there is nothing fantastic in this news, but still nice!

[Simon]

I think that this is very good! The new, modern weapons of the SU-34 will destroy the external enemies of Russia and our allies

[Simon]

Quote: activator

Quote: svp67

The good news, like this one, is EXCELLENT:

Well, the news about the modernization of Su 34 can be considered as confirmation of the words of the warriors wow that in Syria, su 34 did not live up to their expectations, all because of the same electronics

Everything is checked in combat conditions, and then it is modernized or created, something new and perfect!

[Magic archer]

There is good news about EW tools. There is still no replacement for Sud-24PP! And even there are no rumors for some reason

[sivuch]

You would think that there is a Su-24PP. If with ground and helicopter electronic warfare all more or less, then with airplanes is almost complete omega. Offhand - besides a pair of piece IL-22PP and ancient AN-12PP, is there anything left? So the EW aircraft based on the Su-34 or Su-30 was needed the day before yesterday.

[shura7782]

The Su-34 bomber is increased combat effectiveness - this is the "news" of the exploding bomb.
For those who are not in the subject. This will be done continuously as long as they fly. Our old man Su-24M is the father of Su-34 and he is improving. That’s all - aviation everyday life.

[Stabilization]

The fifth-generation fighter Su-57, known as the T-50, made its first flight with a new engine, the Russian Ministry of Industry and Trade said.

“December 5, 2017 at the LII them. Gromov’s first flight was made by the newest fifth-generation Russian fighter T-50 with a second-stage engine, ”the Industry and Trade Ministry quoted Interfax as saying.

It is known that the flight lasted 17 minutes, and went in normal mode in accordance with the conditions of the flight mission. At the helm of the Su-57 was Hero of Russia, chief pilot of Sukhoi Company PJSC Sergey Bogdan.

[newcomer]

Colleagues, we were suspended from OI18. sorry not the topic. but there is no strength to restrain.

[Vadim237]

This is not a tragedy yet, a tragedy in another - again, we see nothing to answer with.

[AshiSolo]

We have Gauges and Drying flew on a new engine. I somehow survive without this pathos OI survive. That's why they are games. And through and through politicized. But it’s not toy “New Year's gifts” at all - it somehow warms.

[IL-18]

Not that they were completely removed. But the situation is humiliating: for athletes, for fans, for leadership, for the people, for me personally.
In any case, the performance of the national team under a neutral flag does not matter to me. The second will be the Olympiad, to which I will not show interest. The first was in the summer of 1984.

[newcomer]

our hockey players have already sent a white rag. and the legionnaires will not be released.

[Solomon Kane]

It's time for Thomas Bach to order a Bach Requiem .....

[newcomer]

Moreover, our Olympus. committee fined 15ml. dollars vehemently suspended for life from games. there will be a selection of applicants for games under the white flag.

[Solomon Kane]

Garik! This is a polar fox! Lowered the country below the baseboard .....

[newcomer]

there is one! the mood is the same as you wrote ... in general, rekindle everyone vigorously and shake the min.sport. something evil, mine.

[Solomon Kane]

The 2018 Olympics in February, the elections in March, where the creatures mark ...

[Solomon Kane]

It’s necessary for Eun to offer the Hvason-15 volley with the smoke of the Russian tricolor ....

[newcomer]

there are questions about the World Cup 18 in football. there is an opinion to suspend the hostess, but hold the championship with us: let the Russians serve our teams. ” just right to hold a tank biathlon at the FIFA building.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: newbie

there is an opinion to suspend the hostess, but to hold the championship with us: let the Russians serve our teams “

Who is so smart?

[newcomer]

a certain Joseph de Pigne, head of national anti-doping agencies.

[Mordvin 3]

That's because ... Even there are no words ... We must call the battle of psychics, let the whole company spoil it. CSKA won two goals just now. Upset, probably.

[newcomer]

You know, Vladimir, I’m not surprised at anything. but with football, too, they’ll do their own thing. 34 of our football players are already under suspicion. the question is, how much will we endure then when will we beat the adversary in the face? tired of swallowing bloody snot.

[Solomon Kane]

Gianni Infantino sent WADA to the anus .. [B] [/ b]
A message has just arrived from the press service of FIFA !!!!! 1

[newcomer]

well done, man. It is significant how the Olympic Committee of Bulgaria stood up for the Russian Federation_ in expressions did not hesitate. I recommend, on polit. review.

[Mordvin 3]

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the question is, how much will we endure then when will we beat the adversary in the face? tired of swallowing bloody snot.

And don’t say, all this is sick and tired of it. Well, army men have purged, I’ll go to sleep.

[newcomer]

sorry, I’ve been their fan since childhood.

[AshiSolo]

Yes ... your Zhukov with your apologies ... to put it mildly depressing. It is necessary to send and not give money with such a story, and not to apologize.

Well, the flag, I think, we will pull out, do not worry. Although I would like for yourself ...

[Solomon Kane]

Your Zhukov with your apologies ... to put it mildly depressing.

and who does not oppress there ...? Therefore, this is the attitude, if the bureaucrats of the sovereign chew snot .....

[AshiSolo]

Yes, it's a shame to stupid just. And nothing can be done. Walking like heaps will not help. Apologies, as I understand it, did not come from the air, but as directed. For what, I don’t understand. Habit? Belief in real sport?
Well there is no OI and no. But these apologies ... Straight after the heart is such humiliation. Only recently, the kid repented, now a bit higher. Something the darkest confuses ...

[Black Colonel]

So it's time to get the ice axes.

[Solomon Kane]

It is necessary to close the situation in Ukraine on Kui, take Libya into circulation, return to the topic with Cuba, North Korea to support Iskanders, etc. etc.
Coolies pull a cat for a causal place - with sheep, the question must be solved by the wolf ....

[newcomer]

It was high time. because the decision of the IOC is quite expected. it’s time to do our business without regard to Western praise. I recall the reaction of IV Stalin to the publication of Churchill's article, where he praises Stalin.

[Giants]

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colleagues, we were suspended from OI18

No. We all spit in the face and we ... whether on the head. Meanwhile, the Head of the Russian Olympic Committee (ROC), Alexander Zhukov, apologized to the executive committee of the International Olympic Committee. This was told by IOC President Thomas Bach at a press conference. So we were humiliated under EBN and so we were humiliated under Putin. That's a coincidence? I don’t think so. On the scales, the honor of the country and the reputation of MUDKA. But Vladimir Vladimirovich does not give up.

[newcomer]

and you expected from these bureaucrats a battle for the honor of the country? it's funny. they are all potential Radchenkovs. the cadres decide everything, but we have the cadres, it’s time to shake this swamp.

[Giants]

I apologized to my foreign patrons! But no one wants to apologize to Russian citizens and Russian athletes ?! When will this fucking shame end ?!

[Solomon Kane]

Today is the 76th Anniversary of the defeat of the Germans near Moscow ...
Bach avenged ....

[newcomer]

here I am about the same. in these places it is necessary to put people who will bite the teeth of the country with their teeth.

[Solomon Kane]

In this context, A. Barto’s poem is relevant. The poem is 60 years old ....

[SpaceCom]

Or did the magazines screw up?

Enjoyed it - it goes without saying! https://ria.ru/arms/20171205/1510284345.html?refe
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In one article, call the plane a fighter and PAK YES at subsonic speed ... You have to try hard!

[vadimtt]

sogdy,
This is from some parallel universe, because in this universe the airplane from the Strela project has a maximum speed of 310 km / h and a practical ceiling of 1500 m.