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Ukraine can wait for another rocket scandal

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On Sunday, the Yemeni Hussites launched a cruise missile at the Baraka NPP under construction in the Emirates, the creation of this rocket was not without the help of Ukrainian businessmen, writes Messenger of Mordovia with reference to a military expert.


Ukraine can wait for another rocket scandal


“The fact is that, as in the case of North Korea, the Ukrainian side decided to cut the money on the Soviet legacy and sold X-55 long-range missiles to China and Iran. As a result, the Chinese and Iranians created their copies of this weapons", - says the material Dmitry Lemeshko.

According to military expert Yuri Lyamin, judging by the launch cadre, the rocket is very similar to the Iranian land-based CD Soumar, which was first introduced a couple of years ago.

Perhaps the Iranian military decided to test it in combat conditions. “It is possible that it was taken apart and then assembled already in Yemen. As a result, technical problems arose, and the rocket did not reach the goal, ”the author writes.



The rocket outwardly, in fact, strongly resembles the Soviet X-55 cruise missile with the addition of an accelerator for launching from a ground-based launcher. Therefore, it is not surprising that the scandalous история A year-old 10-15 with alleged smuggling from Ukraine of several X-55 missiles to Iran at the beginning of the 2000-s,
leads edition of a commentary by Yuri Lyamin.
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  1. Jedi
    Jedi 4 December 2017 13: 16 New
    12
    Burned "nezalezhnie" ... crying
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 4 December 2017 13: 18 New
      13
      Yes, they drank three districts and how many storage bases I do not know bully
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 4 December 2017 13: 19 New
        +8
        Because petrucci is soundly and fermented. lol
        1. Going
          Going 4 December 2017 13: 23 New
          +6
          How much more interesting things can be found out.
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 4 December 2017 14: 27 New
          +2
          Yes, in addition to this, there are plenty of reasons to bruise))))
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 4 December 2017 14: 44 New
            +4
            He is like a true drunk: why invent a reason to drink, if you can drink just like that, without a reason? wassat
    2. Logall
      Logall 4 December 2017 13: 19 New
      11
      It is possible that with the filing of a striped roof ...
      There is no need to look for yet another tension. He already exists ... Extreme fights for democracy as he can ...
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 4 December 2017 13: 21 New
        +6
        If so, then this is another confirmation of the "honesty" of the United States in relation to the "partners". wink
      2. Vadim Zhivov
        Vadim Zhivov 4 December 2017 13: 24 New
        +2
        So they don’t flinch or anything; according to the prosecutor’s office, 5 mil trunks have already disappeared stop Freebies never happen the end will work it is necessary and not hunting and not where tongue
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 4 December 2017 16: 20 New
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          5 million == in the Donbas.
          and theft on the outskirts is less, but apparently there’s also a + write-off "blew up", "the enemy bullet ruined"
      3. Going
        Going 4 December 2017 13: 24 New
        +4
        I think that in the DPRK they are under the supervision of specials. US services, supplied engines.
        1. Logall
          Logall 4 December 2017 13: 28 New
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          With direct participation!
          Very much this whole situation is like a bad performance.
          `` I do not believe it! '' - as Stanislavsky said ...
          1. Going
            Going 4 December 2017 13: 59 New
            +5
            And the truth can come out, the CIA and the hedgehog with them still do not know who the Ukrainians are.
      4. Kleber
        Kleber 4 December 2017 13: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Logall
        It is possible that with the filing of a striped roof ...
        There is no need to look for yet another tension. He already exists ... Extreme fights for democracy as he can ...


        The most viable version.
    3. Shura Perm
      Shura Perm 4 December 2017 13: 20 New
      +1
      money does not smell)))
    4. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 4 December 2017 13: 25 New
      +5
      Here are the causes of fires in ammunition depots. A lot of interesting things will come up in the most unexpected places.
    5. Finches
      Finches 4 December 2017 13: 27 New
      +9
      There are nations strong in historical philosophy, like Greece, new philosophy and military affairs, order like Germany, there are countries rich in wisdom like China ...., industriousness like Japan, diversity like Russia or meanness like England and the USA, and there is simply misery, as Ostap Bender would say: “the victim of abortion” is Ukraine! laughing And this is not an insult - it is a statement of fact - 26 years down the drain! Belarus is the state, Uzbekistan is the state, and Ukraine is the Maidan on the Maidan, and searching for someone to go to is more profitable!
      1. Smog
        Smog 4 December 2017 13: 54 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Search for someone to go for more profitable!

        Yes, after the last benefit of the Maidan, they grabbed the most do not spoil! What can I say? Well done!
        1. Finches
          Finches 4 December 2017 13: 57 New
          +3
          I forgot to take the word "better" in quotation marks ... laughing
          1. Smog
            Smog 4 December 2017 16: 14 New
            +3
            Yes, here the word "Ukraine" is time to take quotes ..... lol
        2. Yasen Ping
          Yasen Ping 4 December 2017 18: 17 New
          +2
          Ukrainians always have some sort of increased brainwashing, apparently from the proximity of Europe they became infected, it is not clear why the Serbs still resist ..
  2. Karaul73
    Karaul73 4 December 2017 13: 22 New
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    And why are you sleeping? What, China and Iran can not sell weapons? So Russia is more arming Iran. Wait for the ground-to-ground missile based on the S-300.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 4 December 2017 13: 31 New
      +3
      Such missiles cannot be sold. Only up to 300 km range or so.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 4 December 2017 14: 41 New
      +5
      Quote: Sentry73
      And why are you sleeping? What, China and Iran can not sell weapons?

      In 2002, Motor Sich sold three MS-400 engines to China (locally named P95-300 of the third series, for X-55 missiles). After that, the US State Department banned Boguslaev directly from selling these products to China. I don’t know how they are there in China, or Iran, mastered the production of such engines, even if it was very difficult to re-master the production of these products even after 7 years of downtime in the 90s, it was very difficult. And this is taking into account the fact that previously they collected these engines in thousands, technologies, equipment and, most importantly, specialists were preserved. So, it is not surprising that the "Iranian" or "Chinese" missiles do not reach the target. And indeed, among the Arabs, as you know, even the most reliable Soviet equipment does not work, but here is a counterfeit product. lol
      1. Mimoprohodil
        Mimoprohodil 4 December 2017 16: 01 New
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        Quote: Orionvit
        In 2002, Motor Sich sold three MS-400 engines to China (the local name is P95-300 of the third series, for X-55 missiles)

        There is nothing secret in engines. On the X-59M, the same engines are. And these missiles were sold to the Chinese
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 4 December 2017 19: 35 New
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          Quote: Mimoprohodil
          There is nothing secret in engines. On the X-59M, the same engines are.

          Here you are somewhat mistaken. On the X-59, there are engines "product 95TP", they were not considered secret. And the object X-55, equipped with engines of modification "product 95 III series", now they were already secret. And another "product of the 95 series A", but this is a modification for missiles, with launch from a submarine. Photo X-59, during the dismantling of the engine R95-300TP.
          1. Mimoprohodil
            Mimoprohodil 4 December 2017 21: 43 New
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            Well, you can compare the "secret" and non-secret engine. It is seen that the second is better
            http://motorsich.com/rus/products/aircraft/tde/ms
            400 /
            http://www.uecrus.com/rus/products/bpla/36mt/
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 5 December 2017 04: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: Mimoprohodil
              Well, you can compare the "secret" and non-secret engine. It is seen that the second is better

              Actually, I can compare which one is secret, which is not and which is “better”, since I worked with these engines for a total of 20 years. The link to the “Motor Sichi” website with an advertising picture of the MS-400 is somewhat incorrect, as the picture just shows the layout of the model, which with a real engine, has some differences. As for the second motor, this is the engine of the development of the Omsk Engine Building Plant (now the Baranov NPO), the late 70's as well as the P95-300 (the development of the Soyuz NPO Moscow),. How much better is it, honestly I do not know, have not encountered. In terms of characteristics, it’s almost the same, but according to knowledgeable people, it’s not so sensitive to dusting the atmosphere. In any case, according to the results of comparative tests in the 80s, the Moscow motor was adopted and transferred to Zaporozhye.
            2. Orionvit
              Orionvit 5 December 2017 05: 04 New
              +1
              And the "secrecy" of the motor was determined not so much by the characteristics inherent in each modification, but by the materials used in the production. For example, the “III Series” engines for the X-55 were equipped with a fan casing and a back wall made of a special radio-absorbing material (to reduce radar visibility), which, by and large, was subsequently considered secret.
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 4 December 2017 13: 23 New
    +2
    What else is there in VNA ukroine not yet sold, and why? ??? what
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 4 December 2017 13: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      What else is there in VNA ukroine not yet sold, and why? ??? what


      Yes, like everything that can be sold ... even intangible things.
      1. dzvero
        dzvero 4 December 2017 14: 01 New
        +2
        Yeah, the expected lethal weapon futures smile
  4. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 4 December 2017 13: 33 New
    +6
    Normally, they decided to test and most importantly decided to beat a little a lot on the nuclear power plant under construction, some maximalists.
  5. revnagan
    revnagan 4 December 2017 13: 41 New
    +1
    Oh yeah! "Herald of Mordovia" is an authoritative, you see, publication. I also laid out documentary evidence?
    1. shans2
      shans2 4 December 2017 19: 40 New
      +1
      authoritative, this is not an echo of matzah.
  6. Sergey53
    Sergey53 4 December 2017 13: 49 New
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    Ukraine will sell everything for 30 pieces of silver. Striped hope that their bowl is blowing.
  7. gukoyan
    gukoyan 4 December 2017 13: 51 New
    0
    Now the screech will go like Moscow screeched in order to substitute Kiev)))
  8. prior
    prior 4 December 2017 14: 00 New
    +1
    State Department! Want to investigate where Yemen got cruise missiles from?
    What do white helmets say? What about sanctions?
  9. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 4 December 2017 14: 28 New
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    Quote: prior
    X-55

    I don’t know how the State Department is there, but where the cruise missiles come from in Yemen, it’s no secret to anyone. Delivered by your allies to Iranians.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 December 2017 14: 43 New
      +6
      Enemy of the enemy is already an ally? What polarization has gone.
      With Arabs or Persians to be conscious? ... swam, we know.
      Slam the enemy chu-chu, so who can refuse such a thing?
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    3. Jaros81
      Jaros81 4 December 2017 19: 52 New
      0
      If only there were no Jews in the allies. Betrayal in the blood of Israel. Yes, and spit on you from a high bell tower, Exceptional No. 2.
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 5 December 2017 00: 31 New
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        Quote: Jaros81
        Betrayal in the blood of Israel.

        I wonder who they betrayed? What kind of allies did Israel betray? Egypt? Rome? Macedonian? Antarctica with penguins? In the Middle Ages everyone betrayed each other at the slightest opportunity, their own. The history of our country is full of examples. Treason and feuds destroyed Kievan Rus.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 5 December 2017 12: 31 New
          +3
          We will not slide into the Middle Ages, not because we don’t feel like it, it’s just that the sources of information are dubious, and in recent history, a lot of things can be attributed to the Jews ... but betrayal in the blood? Where did you find this?
          There are special cases in the history of any nation, and even mass betrayal is recorded; I do not see Jews on this list.
          I just don’t like them, so what, all spread rot for it?
  10. Antares
    Antares 4 December 2017 14: 48 New
    +1
    With such success, anyone can be blamed, because of the reverse engineering analysis, thanks to which Iranian missiles were built. It is no secret that Iran is behind the Hussites. He is a kind of "north wind and woentorg" for the Hussites. And the Russian expert hitched Ukraine to Ukraine, well, so that once again to recall the scandal (which was really, there were many condemned and extradited, but Iran officially rejected the fact of the purchase).
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 December 2017 15: 18 New
      +2
      Not the same proud Arab kings / sheikhs to hooliganize, the Persians, too, they want to contribute to their contribution ... and with the wrong hands the identity too.
      Everything is in line with oriental traditions, and only hands wishing to tickle for ... tender same Arabs how many there are! The question is, what did they want / expect for all the old and new insults!
      East is a delicate matter, Petruha ... or whatever Abdullah may be!
  11. mavrus
    mavrus 4 December 2017 15: 33 New
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    Quote: Muvka
    Such missiles cannot be sold. Only up to 300 km range or so.

    If you can’t, but really want to ... then you can.
  12. mavrus
    mavrus 4 December 2017 15: 36 New
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    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    Quote: prior
    X-55

    I don’t know how the State Department is there, but where the cruise missiles come from in Yemen, it’s no secret to anyone. Delivered by your allies to Iranians.

    Interesting saudi can
  13. mavrus
    mavrus 4 December 2017 15: 37 New
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    Quote: mavrus
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    Quote: prior
    X-55

    I don’t know how the State Department is there, but where the cruise missiles come from in Yemen, it’s no secret to anyone. Delivered by your allies to Iranians.

    Interesting saudi can

    But the Hussites cannot, and why are they so red.
  14. cavl
    cavl 4 December 2017 16: 58 New
    0
    Guess the number of promotion
  15. Yasen Ping
    Yasen Ping 4 December 2017 18: 11 New
    0
    Well, well done, well, they didn’t pour into Saudi Arabia or Israel, but where it should be)))
  16. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 4 December 2017 21: 38 New
    0
    Ukrainians say that "for a moment ...". And soprut everything to Putin. The Pentagon, the State Department, the CIA, WADA and the IOC will confirm the statement of an absolutely transparent, democratic and tolerant Ukrainian side. What does the IOC and WADA? So they were instructed to rot the Russians for any reason. And here is not a reason?
  17. Normal ok
    Normal ok 4 December 2017 21: 59 New
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    writes the Bulletin of Mordovia with reference to a military expert (unspecified)

    This is not even an OBS. This is worse, - Herald of Mordovia. There’s nowhere to put a mark on.
  18. Abel
    Abel 4 December 2017 22: 06 New
    +1
    Everything is simpler. Once upon a time there lived a certain citizen, a graduate .... of the institute, worked on the subject of warheads when difficulties started, in particular at Yuzhmash, and went into business. And suddenly he went into the mud, not getting through, his wife sold the house and also evaporated. 12000 people worked at Yuzhmash, now - 800. The question is, where are the rest? Do you sell panties? Or in China (Korea, Iran)?
  19. assa67
    assa67 5 December 2017 00: 24 New
    +4
    dill sold, six-winged seraphs attended, striped, as always, did not notice anything except the Russian trace ..... routine
  20. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 5 December 2017 09: 43 New
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    Quote: rocket757
    Enemy of the enemy is already an ally? What polarization has gone.
    With Arabs or Persians to be conscious? ... swam, we know.
    Slam the enemy chu-chu, so who can refuse such a thing?

    You do not hide the fact that Iran is your "strategic partner."
  21. Old26
    Old26 5 December 2017 10: 14 New
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    Quote: Logall
    It is possible that with the filing of a striped roof ...
    There is no need to look for yet another tension. He already exists ... Extreme fights for democracy as he can ...

    Nda. How much the existence of the United States is sometimes troubled by the mind that they try to see their hand everywhere. Comrad. Iran is an enemy of the United States and they do not hide it. Saudis and Emirates are allies. And following your logic, did the Americans give Ukraine the go-ahead to sell strategic cruise missiles to their enemies and the enemies of their allies? Nda. Reinforced concrete logic
  22. Old26
    Old26 5 December 2017 12: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: revnagan
    Oh yeah! "Herald of Mordovia" is an authoritative, you see, publication. I also laid out documentary evidence?

    Have you read this edition yourself? Or just heard and judge by the name. No, when publications go to VO that the Russian "death combine" - BMPT "Terminator" arrived in Syria or that a deadly Russian jet "Smerch" was seen in Syria. or that in order to bring down the MQ-1 Predator, the Pechtra-2M complex needed one missile, or finally such a publication - the Russian "Shell C1" shot down the Israeli tactical missile LORA - such publications are a great success. and do not pay attention that they are from the same "Messenger of Mordovia". And here you see, you are not happy with the publication. Double standarts?

    Quote: Antares
    but Iran officially rejected the fact of purchase

    And after a couple of years, Iran had a rocket as two drops of water resembling an X-55 ...
  23. Cynic
    Cynic 6 December 2017 14: 14 New
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    They are so afraid of them ...
  24. klm-57
    klm-57 6 December 2017 20: 57 New
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    Or maybe not wait. A meaningless assumption.
  25. zibo1668
    zibo1668 8 December 2017 02: 30 New
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    - One Ukrainian is a crest!
    - Two Ukrainians are a partisan detachment!
    - And three Ukrainians - a partisan detachment with a traitor!