In Bulgaria, they suggested "shooting Russophobia." Provocation or "voice of the people"?

The Bulgarian media report that an investigation has begun in Bulgaria against one of the groups on the Facebook social network. We are talking about a group that was originally called "Bulgaria and Russia - together forever." The group has about 65 thousand subscribers, which by Bulgarian standards is a very serious result.

The leadership of the Directorate on Combating Organized Crime reported that an investigation was being conducted in connection with the fact that a post had been published in the group on Facebook calling for the conduct of "shooting Russophobes in Bulgaria."

This is a post with the following content:

We collect shock group of people with personal firearms weapon. Be sure that the time has come when the Russophobes will be shot. The only dead russophobes do not threaten the national security of Bulgaria. We call on all Bulgarian patriots to eliminate Russophobes! Begins and the protection of Russian and Soviet monuments. We will physically eliminate anyone who tries to defile them, and photos of their severed heads will be distributed in the media.

This post appeared on the network after the desecration of the famous monument to the Liberator Soldier in Plovdiv, known as "Alesha".

In Bulgaria itself, there are several opinions on this subject. Among them, there is such that this kind of publication in the group that originally called for friendship between the Bulgarian and Russian peoples was made as a provocation - precisely with the goal of having the popular platform for communication closed by the Bulgarian authorities.

Comments

[210ox]

Action means the emergence of opposition. The distortion of one’s own history, vandalism leads to the emergence of radical views. And maybe not radical ones. By the way, Bulgaria honors helping to free the Turkish yoke. This is not even help but Liberation. Portraits of the “White General” hang in schools - Skobeleva. And it is nevertheless necessary to separate the Bulgarians from their rulers. And these are not Pshek's ambition.

[Logall]

Well, the post was clearly provocative! Even if it was not the Provocateur who left him, then the man is of a near mind.
Or some kind of Ur Patriot ...

[Scoun]

Quote: Logall

Well, the post was clearly provocative! Even if it was not the Provocateur who left him, then the man is of a near mind.
Or some kind of Ur Patriot ...

Well, we have a dozen of them typed)))

[Shurik70]

If they talk about such things openly, it is either a fool or a provocateur.
I think in any country there are morons that will spoil even the right thing. I am inclined to think that a provocateur. Perhaps such a group has really appeared. Here it is discredited.

[Orionvit]

One hundred pounds provocation. Although I don’t know, maybe someone’s cry of the soul. Look in Ukraine, the "bloody pastor", officially called for shooting, even for the idea of ​​cooperation with Russia, and nothing. On the part of liberal human rights activists, complete silence. And in Bulgaria, you see how they revived. This is not casual.

[rotmistr60]

Radically, but has a foundation. Bulgaria, through the efforts of its politicians, has turned into a country that has corrected its history and historical friendship with Russia.

so that the popular platform for communication is closed by the Bulgarian authorities

Which is very similar to the truth. The Bulgarian authorities do not like the fact that someone not only remembers Russia's contribution to the independence of Bulgaria, but calls for friendship with it.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: rotmistr60

Radically, but has a foundation. Bulgaria, through the efforts of its politicians, has turned into a country that has corrected its history and historical friendship with Russia.

so that the popular platform for communication is closed by the Bulgarian authorities

Which is very similar to the truth. The Bulgarian authorities do not like the fact that someone not only remembers Russia's contribution to the independence of Bulgaria, but calls for friendship with it.

I have nothing against the Bulgarians, but these friends in two world wars were in a hostile Russian camp. This is worth remembering.

[210ox]

Yes, that’s true. But we must remember that unlike the Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Slovaks and Czechs they didn’t shoot at us ... This is their elite, historically close to Germany ..

Quote: Krasnodar

Quote: rotmistr60

Radically, but has a foundation. Bulgaria, through the efforts of its politicians, has turned into a country that has corrected its history and historical friendship with Russia.

so that the popular platform for communication is closed by the Bulgarian authorities

Which is very similar to the truth. The Bulgarian authorities do not like the fact that someone not only remembers Russia's contribution to the independence of Bulgaria, but calls for friendship with it.

I have nothing against the Bulgarians, but these friends in two world wars were in a hostile Russian camp. This is worth remembering.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: 210ox

Yes, that’s true. But we must remember that unlike the Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Slovaks and Czechs they didn’t shoot at us ... This is their elite, historically close to Germany ..

Quote: Krasnodar

Quote: rotmistr60

Radically, but has a foundation. Bulgaria, through the efforts of its politicians, has turned into a country that has corrected its history and historical friendship with Russia.

so that the popular platform for communication is closed by the Bulgarian authorities

Which is very similar to the truth. The Bulgarian authorities do not like the fact that someone not only remembers Russia's contribution to the independence of Bulgaria, but calls for friendship with it.

I have nothing against the Bulgarians, but these friends in two world wars were in a hostile Russian camp. This is worth remembering.

I agree, but they can’t be called friends.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: 210ox

Yes, that’s true. But we must remember that unlike the Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Slovaks and Czechs they didn’t shoot at us ... This is their elite, historically close to Germany ..

Quote: Krasnodar

Quote: rotmistr60

Radically, but has a foundation. Bulgaria, through the efforts of its politicians, has turned into a country that has corrected its history and historical friendship with Russia.

so that the popular platform for communication is closed by the Bulgarian authorities

Which is very similar to the truth. The Bulgarian authorities do not like the fact that someone not only remembers Russia's contribution to the independence of Bulgaria, but calls for friendship with it.

I have nothing against the Bulgarians, but these friends in two world wars were in a hostile Russian camp. This is worth remembering.

according to the idea, just tinkering with the Nazis makes any attempt to justify them worthless !!!

[Serg65]

Quote: Krasnodar

This is worth remembering.

You will be very surprised to learn about how much effort the KGB of the USSR put to destroy communism in Bulgaria and turning the country into what we see now.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: Krasnodar

This is worth remembering.

You will be very surprised to learn about how much effort the KGB of the USSR put to destroy communism in Bulgaria and turning the country into what we see now.

Taki will be surprised :)
And why did the KGB need this?

[Serg65]

Quote: Krasnodar

And why did the KGB need this?

And why did the KGB have to ruin the USSR?
Or do you think that the evil genius of Socialism was Gorbachev alone?
From the memoirs of Todor Zhivkov “People directly led by the Soviet diplomatic mission were grouped. Famous Bulgarian figures were“ processed ”during visits to the Soviet Union,” “It was clear to me that people who are led directly from Moscow are grouped in my country. My map was a bit "Discrediting me, isolation and arrest were agreed with Gorbachev."
The operation was headed by the USSR Ambassador to Bulgaria V. Sharapov. Andropov’s assistant and curator Gorbachev, the operational management was carried out by the 5 department of the KGB under the leadership of General Bobkov, who, after the 92 year, became the formal security chief and actual owner of Most Bank, the fictitious owner was the oligarch Gusinsky.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: Krasnodar

And why did the KGB need this?

And why did the KGB have to ruin the USSR?
Or do you think that the evil genius of Socialism was Gorbachev alone?
From the memoirs of Todor Zhivkov “People directly led by the Soviet diplomatic mission were grouped. Famous Bulgarian figures were“ processed ”during visits to the Soviet Union,” “It was clear to me that people who are led directly from Moscow are grouped in my country. My map was a bit "Discrediting me, isolation and arrest were agreed with Gorbachev."
The operation was headed by the USSR Ambassador to Bulgaria V. Sharapov. Andropov’s assistant and curator Gorbachev, the operational management was carried out by the 5 department of the KGB under the leadership of General Bobkov, who, after the 92 year, became the formal security chief and actual owner of Most Bank, the fictitious owner was the oligarch Gusinsky.

The USSR destroyed not only the KGB and Gorbachev, but the entire party elite - the Central Committee of the CPSU and the republics - wanted to translate the decadents from power into material values ​​- which they did. But why was it necessary to plot against the Bulgarians, who, together with the Mongols, are not abroad, I don’t understand)))

[Serg65]

Quote: Krasnodar

But why was it necessary to plot against the Bulgarians, who, together with the Mongols, are not abroad

Well, probably it was a payment for a happy future? Take a look at the list of KGB generals in Russian business. By the way, the hand of PSU and 5 management is traced in the collapse of all socialist countries.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: Krasnodar

But why was it necessary to plot against the Bulgarians, who, together with the Mongols, are not abroad

Well, probably it was a payment for a happy future? Take a look at the list of KGB generals in Russian business. By the way, the hand of PSU and 5 management is traced in the collapse of all socialist countries.

The hand of former party members and security officials in business is not new. Are there proven facts about their participation in the collapse of socialism in social countries? :)
I'm not talking about the testimonies of the Honikers and others, I'm talking about concrete evidence.

[Serg65]

Quote: Krasnodar

Are there proven facts about their participation in the collapse of socialism in social countries?

And you, as I understand it, a lawyer? And to you all sorts of words there, in one place? And if the memories of the participants in the events. complete nonsense for you, so what kind of evidence do you require from me?

[Orionvit]

What kind of nonsense? The KGB, let it be known to you, is not an independent thing in itself, but the political police of the state, and must obey the orders of the higher leadership. Just like the army and the police. The truth here may be a “moral fork”, in a situation where you need to be faithful to the oath, or follow the criminal orders of traitors in the leadership.

[Serg65]

Quote: Orionvit

KGB, let it be known to you, this is not an independent thing in itself, but the political police of the state

Well, in principle, yes, it should be so .... somewhere .... in other countries!
A lot of questions arise over the last decade of the USSR .... who planned and organized interethnic clashes in the republics of Transcaucasia and Middle Asia? Who protected the circle of democratically-minded economists of Leningrad, led by Chubais and VNIISI - where did the whole galaxy of new liberals come from, including Yegor Timurovich? How did the traitor general Kalugin manage to become the USSR deputy in the 90? And if this is not the work of the KGB, then what was the KGB doing at that time ????
In chess, there is such a term "Raman Vision" - so this term is very well suited to those times! And you say nonsense !

[mad]

Quote: Serg65

A lot of questions arise over the last decade of the USSR .... who planned and organized interethnic clashes in the republics of Transcaucasia and Middle Asia? Who protected the circle of democratically-minded economists of Leningrad, led by Chubais and VNIISI - where did the whole galaxy of new liberals come from, including Yegor Timurovich? How did the traitor general Kalugin manage to become the USSR deputy in the 90? And if this is not the work of the KGB, then what was the KGB doing at that time ????

Three letter answer - CIA

[Serg65]

Quote: mad

Three letter answer - CIA

And where was the KGB at that time ???

[mad]

When the CIA’s Central Committee leadership and its Chairman are the agents of the CIA’s influence (the Traitor asks for it), the KGB can only give recommendations, it’s just a tool. And do not forget any Bakatins appointed to key positions. Good old CIA way to buy \ recruit individuals in the country's leadership and slide it into the abyss.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: Orionvit

KGB, let it be known to you, this is not an independent thing in itself, but the political police of the state

Well, in principle, yes, it should be so .... somewhere .... in other countries!
A lot of questions arise over the last decade of the USSR .... who planned and organized interethnic clashes in the republics of Transcaucasia and Middle Asia? Who protected the circle of democratically-minded economists of Leningrad, led by Chubais and VNIISI - where did the whole galaxy of new liberals come from, including Yegor Timurovich? How did the traitor general Kalugin manage to become the USSR deputy in the 90? And if this is not the work of the KGB, then what was the KGB doing at that time ????
In chess, there is such a term "Raman Vision" - so this term is very well suited to those times! And you say nonsense !

Replace the KGB acronym with Jews or Masons in your post and get another conspiracy thesis :)

[Serg65]

Quote: Krasnodar

Replace the KGB acronym with Jews or Masons in your post and get another conspiracy thesis :)

Well, if you like Jews and Masons, then your right to change that for this!

[Seraphimamur]

How do you know that? Did he work there?

[Theodore]

As they say from Brussels, it will be so! They will not do Maidans! The gut is thin.

[Herculesic]

I even know a quasistran-jumping , a tenant of which (they can’t be called residents, they are all totally guests there), registered on a Bulgarian resource so that this provocative message in social networks and write !!

[Uncle lee]

the time has come when the Russophobes will be shot.

Maybe radically, but efficiently. And there will be nobody to fault Russia!

[Alexander 3]

This is a provocation. No one has ever loved Russia by force, and forced to respect.

[inkass_98]

If they were preparing to actually shoot Russophobes, then no one would publish such calls on the network in the general group. Everything would be quiet, at least in personal correspondence, and even this is unreliable.
So the provocation is detective. And the idea itself was quite sound, they had enough time to make sure of the dangers of breaking off relations with the Russian Federation, and joining the EU values ​​already made Bulgaria one of the poorest countries in Europe.

[andrewkor]

It’s still not clear to me how, after such victims in the war for the Balkans and the Straits (the liberation of the Bulgarians, a related factor), Alexander II himself could have initiated the accession to the Bulgarian throne of the German dynasty? Maybe the great-grandmother was an example before my eyes?

[Masya masya]

You will not be forcibly sweet ...

[Seraphimamur]

Bulgarians brothers? Whose? Two world wars, and in both they were on the side of the enemies of Russia and voluntarily joined. Now the same thing, Bulgaria is in NATO. Voluntarily entered. They say that these are bad authorities and their policy against Russia. And whoever elects this power is the people. Therefore, the authorities are pursuing a policy that people like. And speak the Russian brothers. Yes, I have never brothers!

[Bat]

I agree. Bulgaria has always been at the center of intrigues against Russia.

[Nemesis]

A guest who behaves in a strange house as a master is no longer a guest, but an occupier, and therefore agrees that there should not be Russophobes in Russia ... 60% of Pashtuns in Afghanistan and no one doubts that they are masters of Afghanistan. 84% of Russians in Russia ... What is there in Bulgaria is the business of the Bulgarians, but in Russia it is high time to put things in order ....

[Orionvit]

Quote: Nemesis

What is there in Bulgaria, this is the business of the Bulgarians

Nobody argues, but desecrating monuments is the last thing. Especially the soldiers who shed blood for their release from the Turks. Something I do not remember the case that the Bulgarians shed blood for Russia. Maybe they lived well under the Turks?

[Loess]

We urge all Bulgarian patriots to eliminate Russophobes! The protection of Russian and Soviet monuments also begins. We will physically eliminate everyone who tries to defile them, and photos of their cut off heads will be distributed in the media.

Well, why is it so cruel ... To start, just fill the face ...

[Bat]

A couple of years ago, a Bulgarian politician said that Russia needs to get money for the fact that many Bulgarians died during the fighting on Shipka. Like, if not for Russia, then the Turks would not have touched the civilian population. And what is interesting, he, this politician, was supported by several others.

[MaxMelan]

And if there is a call to shoot Russophiles? Is there an interesting sorting out by the authorities? If this appears on the Russophobic forum?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: MaksoMelan

Is there an interesting sorting out by the authorities?

certainly begin to find and award some medal !!!

[Eurodav]

Quote: Krasnodar

Quote: rotmistr60

Radically, but has a foundation. Bulgaria, through the efforts of its politicians, has turned into a country that has corrected its history and historical friendship with Russia.

so that the popular platform for communication is closed by the Bulgarian authorities

Which is very similar to the truth. The Bulgarian authorities do not like the fact that someone not only remembers Russia's contribution to the independence of Bulgaria, but calls for friendship with it.

I have nothing against the Bulgarians, but these friends in two world wars were in a hostile Russian camp. This is worth remembering.

What do you need to have / not have in our relations with the Bulgarians? The Germans were near by the Germans, and not hiding behind the Urals ... Roam into the thread about Iran and Palestine, the talkative wise guy!

[Victor Dubovitsky]

Of course, I am indignant at the desecration of memory and monuments. But shooting is obviously a bust. It means a lot of simple indignation among the Bulgarians themselves, and if the indignation, fair, will take on a mass character, then such tricks will become not \ impossible in principle.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Victor Dubovitsky

But shooting is obviously a bust.

agree .. for the first time you can get by ... shot knees !!!

[Sergey53]

The authorities were scared for their heads.