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Polish threat to Russian security could be real

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The APEC Summit has passed. Its members went home, and we still faced pressing national security problems, the most acute of which is the approach of NATO to our borders. Of the current NATO neophytes, the military preparations of the Republic of Poland are of the greatest concern and concern. Having set itself the goal of becoming a new regional center of power in Eastern Europe, the Polish leadership is doing everything to please its new owners, to occupy a leading position in the region, having pressed the old woman Germany. I recall that Poland is one of the few new members of the alliance, which, after joining NATO in 1999, is scrupulous about its military obligations. Poland and Estonia are the only new members of NATO that allocate the required 2% of GDP for defense. They even increase these allocations, unlike any other NATO country.

Trying to prove its commitment to the bloc, Poland has been participating in the wars led by America in the Greater Middle East since 2001. Warsaw sent its land contingents to Iraq and Afghanistan. At the same time, Polish troops are more active and willing to participate in hostilities than the bulk of other NATO contingents. Moreover, the Polish leadership is insistently asking the States to deploy two divisions on its territory to protect against the "Russian threat." And insists that they stay there until the number of national armed forces reaches 200 thousand people. In the meantime, yes, the Polish caliphs do everything for an hour to bring NATO missile defense bases and dual-use facilities as close as possible to the borders of Russia. At the same time, the States confirmed their readiness to deploy the multi-purpose Aegis Ashore anti-aircraft missile system in Polish Redzikowo for the 2018 year.

The modern Polish leadership strictly adheres to the decisions taken by the bloc at the NATO summit in Warsaw in 2016: to deploy multinational battalions in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland. On the Polish territory, these forces will be stationed in Ozhisz and Bemov Pepe in the north-east of the republic. The units deployed in Poland will include 800 military, mainly from the United States, as well as representatives from Romania and the United Kingdom.

But Poland by all its actions shows that it is worthy of assuming the role of the leader of NATO’s eastern flank. In the summer of 2016, Polish Deputy Minister of Defense Bartosh Kovnatsky announced that the country intends to spend 83 billion zlotys ($ 21 billion) on new weapons. In particular, $ 10 billion is planned to be spent on purchases of medium-range anti-aircraft missile systems and tactical missile defense systems. More than $ 5 billion will be spent on short-range air defense systems, $ 3,3 billion - on helicopter purchases, $ 2,5 billion - on new submarines. The main part of the procurement should be included in the program of technical re-equipment of the Armed Forces of Poland for the period 2017-2022.

But bad luck! Recently, news flashed that the RP lost its last combat-ready submarine after a fire fleet, which was diesel-electric submarine pr. 877E "Eagle". The fire was so voluminous that the factory-repairing boat had to be flooded in order to stop the spread of fire ... The Poles would not be able to restore it for two reasons: for political reasons, this was the former Soviet B-351 submarine, and for technical reasons there were no spare parts. Therefore, apparently, since 2014 they could not repair it, and in order not to suffer further, they burned the ship ...

But the Poles, faithful to their course to seize leadership on the eastern flank of NATO, are already looking for channels to replenish their fleet with new ships and submarines.

So, the Minister of Defense of Poland Antoni Macherevich, while on a visit to France, was working on the issue of acquiring new submarines from the French.

“We want to conclude this contract as soon as possible, and even better this year,” he said, specifying that France is ready to negotiate on boats and cruise missile carriers. According to Macherevic, such a proposal “corresponds exactly to Polish requests.” “The strength of the French proposal is the integration of the guided missiles with the submarine, and this is within the framework of one contract,” he explained. However, so far not all the details of the possible contract are agreed. In particular, testing of missiles on a submarine was not conducted, but only tests on the platform.

But this is the near future. However, there is a focus on a strategic perspective: underwater carriers KDBK. And at least on the "Euro-strategic" weapon on board - American "Tomahawks."

“As the American edition of Defense News reported, at the 16 International Conference and Specialized Exhibition of Naval Equipment and Weapons IMDEX Asia 18 held from 2017 to 11 in May in Singapore, the Swedish group Saab AB presented a new version of the promising non-nuclear submarine project "A2017", equipped with vertical launchers, designed primarily for the deployment of American cruise missiles Raytheon Tomahawk. According to the model demonstrated at the exhibition, three six-shot vertical launchers of a cylindrical type are placed in an additional compartment of length 26 m in the central part of the submarine A10. The displacement of the boat at the same time increases by 26-400 tons. Launcher modules can be used to accommodate various weapons, and with the dismantling of launchers themselves - also to accommodate equipment for combat swimmers, etc. However, unofficially, Tomahawk missiles are called as the main armament for these PUs. As you can understand, this version of the A500 submarine with the TLU is not intended for the Swedish Navy, but for potential A26 customers, who require cruise missiles as part of the armament of their prospective submarines to attack ground targets. In Europe, unofficially, Poland is called unofficially as such potential customers. It is to her that Saab actively proposes the A26 project, acting in partnership with the Polish state defense holding Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa (PGZ).

The Polish naval forces under the Orka program are planning to purchase 3-s of non-nuclear submarines armed with cruise missiles, with the launch of the lead-in submarine in 2024 ”(http://bmpd.livejournal.com).

With the introduction of these naval submarines, the Polish Navy will become a real threat to the administrative and industrial centers of the European part of Russia. Therefore, the role of the anti-submarine forces of the Baltic Fleet in ensuring anti-submarine operations on the high seas (on deployment routes) and off the coast of Sweden, that is, in the area of ​​the most probable patrols of missile naval submarines of the A26 propellant with the Tomahawk on-board missile defense system, should certainly increase.

Obviously, the missile defense / air defense systems in the VE theaters will also have to be seriously increased in order to prevent even the single Tomahawk flight and the achievement of its intended target.

Thus, counteracting Polish militaristic aspirations at sea is one of the most important areas for strengthening Russia's military security in the Baltic. Naturally, the role of the Baltic Fleet should also increase. And this is impossible without strengthening the shipboard structure of the Baltic Fleet, equipped with modern means of air defense missile systems, missile defense / air defense.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 15 November 2017 06: 02 New
    +4
    They’ll find a boat. Maybe not just one. Yes, and the threat to our Kaliningrad is obvious. You can’t throw your hats here. But in general .. Drunken overslept, Pole, never ..
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 15 November 2017 09: 44 New
      +5
      The article says it right!
      It’s not just that at the direction of the United States under the traitor Yeltsin, Russian submarines were cut and destroyed in the Russian Federation!
      The quality and quantity of the country's submarine navy very much determines its victory or loss in a modern war! This was perfectly understood by the heads of state before WWII.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 15 November 2017 10: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Tatiana
        and destroyed Russian submarines!

        I know that in Magadan the boat was cut but not destroyed but sold to the Chinese
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 15 November 2017 06: 06 New
    +3
    Yeah. It's time to move the NATO fence to the west. Prohibit the passage of aircraft of NATO countries over our territory. And let them count the Eureka losses.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 15 November 2017 06: 25 New
      +3
      It’s time for everyone to forbid everything: flying over us, we - flying to Goa and Turkey ..., With our own strengths and opportunities to live
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 15 November 2017 09: 47 New
      +3
      But they still have not been banned, and believe me, they will not ban it.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 15 November 2017 10: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Kent0001
        But they still have not been banned, and believe me, they will not ban it.

        Prohibited after the outbreak of hostilities
  3. andrewkor
    andrewkor 15 November 2017 06: 40 New
    +6
    At the Russian military, I think, a hand will tremble at a critical moment and shandarahnut all over this pack of nuclear weapons. I read it at Morozov!
    1. volodya
      volodya 15 November 2017 18: 01 New
      +7
      Quote: andrewkor
      At the Russian military, I think, a hand will tremble at a critical moment and shandarahnut all over this pack of nuclear weapons. I read it at Morozov!

      Let them remember how it was! . And unforgettable!
  4. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 15 November 2017 07: 00 New
    +5
    Something recently, “Polonaise” Oginsky stopped turning on the air, so maybe the Poles began to greyhound!
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 15 November 2017 10: 13 New
      +8
      hi
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Something recently, “Polonaise” Oginsky stopped turning on the air, so maybe the Poles began to greyhound!

      Are you talking about this Polonaise? wink
      1. Astoria
        Astoria 15 November 2017 10: 37 New
        +3
        No, the product of the Chinese defense industry has nothing to do with this wink
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 15 November 2017 10: 40 New
          +4
          Is there one Chinese? hi
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 15 November 2017 11: 00 New
            +5
            hi
            Oginsky’s polonaise, this is “Farewell to the Motherland”!
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 15 November 2017 11: 01 New
              +6
              I know, I just could not resist not to joke. repeat
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 15 November 2017 11: 04 New
                +4
                hi
                This, the ability to joke, is worth a lot!
              2. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 15 November 2017 11: 05 New
                +4
                And I meant the farewell of the Poles to their homeland!
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 15 November 2017 11: 08 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Uncle Lee
                  This, the ability to joke, is worth a lot!

                  I also appreciate the sense of humor in people. drinks
                  Quote: Uncle Lee
                  And I meant the farewell of the Poles to their homeland!

                  What our “Polonaise" may well contribute - the range allows. wink
                  1. Uncle lee
                    Uncle lee 15 November 2017 12: 48 New
                    +4
                    This is an emergency! In the meantime, let Oginsky listen. And then, as Silver said: "Then our muskets will speak and the living will envy the dead!"
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 15 November 2017 12: 55 New
                      +6
                      The right words and a cool cartoon! drinks
                      1. Uncle lee
                        Uncle lee 15 November 2017 13: 02 New
                        +5
                        I review from time to time .... And the song accompaniment is at its best! hi
              3. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 15 November 2017 11: 19 New
                +4
                hi
                The ability to joke is worth a lot!
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 November 2017 07: 13 New
    +6
    The fact that the Poles are completely off the coils is clearly visible in the behavior that became famous thanks to the talk show of Yakub Koreyba (you do not even need to watch the media). Aggression, arrogance, self-confidence, Polish ambition increased significantly. Poland immediately poses for the United States and constantly we, we, we ... The vileness in the world increases in proportion to the increase in US aggressiveness.
    1. Boa kaa
      15 November 2017 20: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Aggression, arrogance, self-confidence, Polish ambition increased significantly.

      Yeah .... They are so divorced from reality that they require indemnity not only from Germany, but also from the heiress of the USSR - Russia. So go and see for yourself: the obvious is unbelievable! am
  6. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 15 November 2017 09: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    They’ll find a boat. Maybe not just one. Yes, and the threat to our Kaliningrad is obvious. You can’t throw your hats here. But in general .. Drunken overslept, Pole, never ..

    Look at the parade in 1966. How much military equipment and weapons we gave there. And everything happened to our own detriment. Now they are looking for a new owner. Past achievements do not count. Such they were, and always will be.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 15 November 2017 09: 49 New
      +2
      And no one doubted this, the Poles and Khokhlov handed over to the Nazis the distillation of Jews.
    2. Ural resident
      Ural resident 15 November 2017 11: 59 New
      0
      Are you talking about spears and crossbows?
    3. SCHWERIN
      SCHWERIN 15 November 2017 14: 53 New
      +1
      Sorry, but the year 66 was the Warsaw Pact. In addition to the Poles, there were Bulgarians, Germans, Hungarians and Romanians. And existed until the 90s. So, everyone didn’t have to give weapons !?
    4. Deck
      Deck 18 November 2017 14: 47 New
      0
      Now they are looking for a new owner


      And you consider us the previous owners of the Poles. So maybe they don’t like us?
  7. novel66
    novel66 15 November 2017 09: 56 New
    +5
    or I have a bad geography, or NATO looks north or south, since the Poles have on the eastern flank. Don’t worry!
  8. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 15 November 2017 12: 11 New
    +1
    Borzoi panov day after day! We need to strengthen our strengths in the enclave already yesterday. One of the “Iskanders” will not work, and the army corps will not do the weather. There are not too many new ships, talk of small submarines has subsided. Poland bought more than 2015 leopards in 200, thus strengthening the land component, and we are all afraid: “What will Geyropa think?” You need to prepare, boors need to be put in place, and the gentry and geyropeytsy with amy respect only the strong.
    1. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 15 November 2017 16: 26 New
      +2
      We need several tens of thousands of beautiful and different missiles, including hypersonic ones. Then the Western geeks will only have to sigh and be afraid.
  9. iouris
    iouris 15 November 2017 13: 30 New
    0
    She is already real and long. Late in a bit of a catch.
  10. turbris
    turbris 15 November 2017 14: 09 New
    +1
    Well, what can be done? Poland has become the foremost outpost of NATO, with the Baltic states it will be the same, we can only strengthen our defense in the border regions. But then again, we must be guided by the principle of sufficient defense so as not to get involved in the arms race, as soon as Poland loses EU subsidies, it won’t be able to spend so much money on defense. While they are afraid of us, we are afraid of them - this is the result of the work of politicians, whether such a policy will bring real aggression - everything can be, because in Ukraine many Natsiks from Azov are ready to fight with Russia.
  11. Glory1974
    Glory1974 15 November 2017 15: 01 New
    +2
    that the missile defense / air defense systems on the VE theater will also have to be seriously increased in order to prevent even a single tomahawk flight and to achieve its intended target for striking.

    This is only the third stage - the destruction of enemy missiles. At the first stage, military command and control bodies are destroyed, at the second - delivery vehicles.
    Therefore, it is necessary to publicize their plans to destroy, first of all, “aggressive governing bodies,” including with the help of nuclear weapons. At the same time, declare that peaceful Polish submariners are not guilty of anything until they launch missiles. And sit quietly without getting involved in an arms race.
  12. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 15 November 2017 15: 45 New
    +3
    The Baltic Sea is not a good springboard for Russia. The Germans blocked it from the southern shores to the north. Our fleet was in Kronstadt. Used mainly for artillery shooting. Submarines broke through the mineral barriers - units. Many were simply blown up.
    In case of conflict, it is better to use the "Bastions" and "Caliber". And there will be no time to withdraw the fleet to sea. So the Poles can build hundreds of submarines, there’s not much use from them in this naval theater. They just need to be tracked, the sea is shallow and kept in sight.
    Here's a link about modern warfare: https://vpk-news.ru/issues/39874 This is a military-industrial courier. A very interesting article. I’ll insert a part so that you can understand.
    At the end of 70-x - the beginning of 80-x Ogarkov began to develop the concept of "Strategic offensive operation in the theater of operations." Behind a rather cumbersome title was the revolutionary change in the views on modern warfare.
    Firstly, according to its developers, the role of nuclear weapons was declining, and its precision began to take its place. Secondly, it was predicted that even large-scale collisions would be very SHORT. Therefore, strategic operations must be carried out simultaneously to the entire depth of theaters of operations. Such operations should, in modern language, be diverse groups of forces and assets. Thirdly, for the conduct of hostilities, commands are needed, to which all forces and means on the theater are subordinate, including the fleet, air force and airborne forces.
    The formation of the new concept was preceded by several large-scale maneuvers, including the West-81 operational-strategic exercises, which became one of the most ambitious checks of the Soviet army in its entire history.
    Unfortunately, in our country, as before WWII, the theories of our military theorists are either not implemented or they will be altered in such a way that .... For example, a major military theorist V.K. Triandafillov in his 30s developed a theory of using tanks in war. Unfortunately, Guderian G. took advantage of his theoretical developments on the Russian front - tank coverage, tank wedge - the use of large tank formations. And the ideas of N.V. Ogarkov were used by the Americans. N.V. Ogarkov believed, and this is the most important thing - reducing the role of nuclear weapons, replacing it with high-precision, striking should be at the ENTIRE DEPTH of the theater!
    Those. shoot first on ALL "partners" WIN. And the second ...
    I think many people remember the strange suicide ??? Marshal Ogarkov in the early 90s in Moscow. Draw conclusions
    1. albert
      albert 15 November 2017 17: 40 New
      +4
      Actually, Marshal Akhromeev committed suicide. Ogarkov died in '94.
      1. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN 15 November 2017 17: 44 New
        0
        Sorry, your truth.
    2. Boa kaa
      15 November 2017 20: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: SCHWERIN
      there will be no time to withdraw the fleet to sea. So the Poles can build hundreds of submarines, there is little use from them in this naval theater.
      The fleet will go to RBD in an endangered period. With the announcement of the BG MILITARY DANGER. NATO will do the same for the * orange * level of military danger. And then - weapon tracking of the enemy in the readiness to destroy him on a signal ...
      Quote: SCHWERIN
      They just need to be tracked, the sea is shallow and kept in sight.

      What shallow water - * hemorrhagic * for Ploshnikov every cap3 knows ...
      Quote: SCHWERIN
      the theories of our military theorists either do not materialize or remake in such a way that ...

      You just, apparently, are not in the know. Strategic directions have been created, which are outlined around the world by the framework of the military district, and in war these are ready fronts ... A new USC “North” has been created, which will also become a * front * during the war.
      Quote: SCHWERIN
      striking should be at the whole depth of the theater!
      This is in the presence of STR ... And if the forces - the cat burst into tears, then there is such a thing as primary goals ... And they, as a rule, are the concern of * nuclear * defeat ... of the front-line or VKS.
      Quote: SCHWERIN
      shoot first for ALL "partners"
      After submitting the SBP to the carriers, you will not find a single adversary in the same place (except for silos with the Minutemen) ... the Americans are pushing with their Moscow State University, but they also understand that * the answer * will arrive anyway. That’s why they are building the 3 missile defense, now they have swung into space. They are pulling us to "compete." But they have the No. 1 economy in the world, and we have the 12 e-honorable place, not even in the first 10.
      So, “if you want peace, fight for peace”! (L.I. Brezhnev). Yeah.
      1. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN 15 November 2017 21: 10 New
        +1
        This is the hardest part:
        The fleet will go to the RBD in an endangered period. And then - tracking the weapons of the enemy in readiness to destroy him on a signal ....
        1. Too many goals. 2. When to press the red button. The first you press is the aggressor. The second is the loser. But most likely at this stage there will no longer be time for reflection ..... We'll have to shoot first, and then figure it out.
        But they have the world's No. 1 economy, and we have the 12th place of honor, not even 10.
        So, “if you want peace, fight for peace”! (L.I. Brezhnev). Yeah.

        North Korea is far beyond 80th place. However, the determination and the US knows this, makes Americans afraid of the northerners, knowing that they are capable of anything. We have a tendency to mirror measures, long pauses can cause the illusion that we will slow down. And that's bad.
        1. Boa kaa
          15 November 2017 21: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: SCHWERIN
          North Korea is far beyond 80 place. However, the determination and the US knows this, makes Americans afraid of the northerners, knowing that they are capable of anything.

          North Korea is a special case ... If it weren’t for China and Russia, the States would have cut the DPRK like a tortoise God .. Or do you doubt it !? Personally, I’ve never ... And their miserable rockets were knocked down at the stage of dispersal. OUT they have ka times near Berke at the city guide. And the 3 AMG would have provided them with air defense ... So, the Yankees do not want to seriously tie up with the Juche fanatics.
          This is not the most popular position among readers, but this is the truth of life ... Only China in the current conditions (and even then, with military-technical support from the Russian Federation) is able to really confront the States. And they know it very well. Therefore, they will not bully near by the side of the hunfuz. Everything will descend to the sluggish current negotiations, then it will rumble somewhere else. For example, in very Central Asia, or in an independent .. Well, etc.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 15 November 2017 21: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Everything will descend to the sluggish current negotiations, then it will rumble somewhere else. For example, in very Central Asia, or in an independent .. Well, etc.

            And let's in Zimbabwe? Or in Washington?
            laughing
            1. Boa kaa
              15 November 2017 21: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              And let's in Zimbabwe? Or in Washington?

              Yeah I do not mind! But the presidential election is ours. As far back as 2016, the congress for them ordered 18 lard greens ... Do they need to be worked out, or not? And this year, 4,6 lard of dull raccoons still moved to counteract Russia in Europe ...
              So, whatever one may say, something near us will be organized by the efforts of striped ... yes
              IMHO.
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 15 November 2017 21: 44 New
                +3
                Alexander, Poland, since the birth of the young Soviet Republic, has been a difficult section of the border. But, as stated in the film "State Border": "So I'm sorry, but you still have to bury them!".
          2. SCHWERIN
            SCHWERIN 16 November 2017 00: 10 New
            0
            I agree with you about the UK. But here, besides the Russian Federation and China, there are two more partners - JAPAN and Yu.K. Japan singled out especially. Unsinkable aircraft carrier and very attached to the States. Whatever clumsy rockets the northerners were, but can they spoil them? If something goes wrong. You do not foresee everything. Here they are (US) and drive a round dance. They do not want to lose face.
            Then there appeared infa that the Americans are evacuating the Mujahideen from Syria to Afghanistan. And they seem to be pretty decent there. And there is Tajikistan and near Russia. So Central Asia has drawn!
            Exacerbated the situation on the northwestern borders of the Russian Federation, with dill in the south, in the east from the North Caucasus, and now in the Central Asian direction. Competently the devils act, not for nothing that they receive big money.
          3. Cyrus
            Cyrus 16 November 2017 19: 39 New
            0
            And they also need to be trained on something to train carrier formations.
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  13. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 15 November 2017 17: 45 New
    0
    Quote: SCHWERIN
    Sorry, but the year 66 was the Warsaw Pact. In addition to the Poles, there were Bulgarians, Germans, Hungarians and Romanians. And existed until the 90s. So, everyone didn’t have to give weapons !?

    Now it turns out that not everyone had to give it. All the more for free. And even more so as the wolf does not feed, he will look into the forest all the time. It was impossible to let them in.
  14. sabakina
    sabakina 15 November 2017 21: 17 New
    +3
    3 non-nuclear submarines armed with cruise missiles, with the introduction of the lead in 2024
    Something tells me that by 2024 we all will either not survive, or something cardinal will happen ...
  15. sabakina
    sabakina 15 November 2017 21: 27 New
    +2
    Uncle lee,
    Well, yes, we are again struggling with smoking, we have banned light cigarettes .... Churchill smoked cigars and did not live to see the age required by God.
  16. andrew xnumx
    andrew xnumx 15 November 2017 22: 20 New
    +2
    It is necessary to prepare for a serious strike by NATO forces precisely from Poland. From this country will come a threat to Kaliningrad. The enclave must be prepared for a serious war in the conditions of the blockade. And power plants are being built slowly in the area. And if conventional military operations are inevitable, then NATO strategists should not think that we will throw huge forces into the Baltic states. No! A blow of unprecedented power, in conditions of NATO aggression, of course, should be inflicted on Poland with the instant destruction of all military infrastructure in this country, then NATO plans for the defense of the Baltic states will be useless. It is necessary to prepare the total mining of the Baltic. But the main thing is to arm the Baltic Fleet with cruise missiles to the limit. And in the area of ​​the Iskander rocket and not only. The enclave itself must be capable of delivering a devastating blow to the advancing NATO forces. In the western military district, the infrastructure of powerful tank armies should be deployed, ready in the event of an Alliance aggression to throw to the West. But in general, I would like to note once again that cruise and hypersonic missiles are our main hope.
    1. SCHWERIN
      SCHWERIN 16 November 2017 00: 16 New
      0
      If you mine TOTALLY the Baltic, then to hell equip the BF with cruise missiles? Where will he maneuver? Yes, and under the KR it is necessary to redo the ships. Cheaper KR put in Kronstadt .....
      1. andrew xnumx
        andrew xnumx 17 November 2017 12: 52 New
        +1
        In this case, the main task of the Baltic Fleet is to launch cruise missiles on NATO's ground-based military infrastructure in Europe, as well as on NATO naval groups in the straits and even the North Sea. But in general, mining is a natural measure of the defending side. Against us are 28 countries with a huge surface fleet. And then the modern mine warfare is conducted so that minefields appear on the surface at the right time. By the way, preparing for a mine war is necessary not only in the Baltic.
  17. iouris
    iouris 16 November 2017 01: 48 New
    0
    Quote: turbris
    Well, what can be done?

    It was not necessary to do what could not be done: to give up the German Democratic Republic, ruin the police department, ruin the country, just to rob the people and turn the economy into a raw materials appendage and a source of free resources. And now nothing can be done.
  18. Nemesis
    Nemesis 16 November 2017 05: 13 New
    0
    Russia needs to abandon the further construction of 20380 corvettes in favor of 20385 with the deployment of cruise missiles with nuclear warheads on them and let Poland have a headache.