Iron Cross: for the 25 anniversary of the Ukrainian Navy established a new award

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According to the Odessa web resource Dumskaya.net, the commander of the naval forces of Ukraine (Naval Forces of Ukraine), Vice-Admiral Igor Voronchenko recently established a new award - the Iron Cross. It is dedicated to the 25 anniversary of the creation of the IUD.

Iron Cross: for the 25 anniversary of the Ukrainian Navy established a new award




As they say in the message, "the reward is interesting in that it is cast from the enemy weaponswhich was used by enemies in battles against our sailors. The iron cross commander has already awarded several veterans of the naval forces. "

The online portal bmpd commented on this "product":
Apparently, this cross will be cast from iron "chovens" left by the "heroes" of the Ukrainian Navy in the Crimea.
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  1. +35
    6 November 2017 11: 22
    Everything is clear - they put an end to the Navy. lol
    1. +26
      6 November 2017 11: 25
      The fleet in Ukraine was buried for a long time! And they forgot to put a cross on the grave ...
      1. +15
        6 November 2017 11: 32
        An example is taken from the Nazis. They think that with such awards they will raise the patriotic spirit to heaven and rush to “explore” the spaces of the Russian Federation? So crosses are also placed on the graves. It is possible and such, iron.
        1. +16
          6 November 2017 12: 05
          This cross also has a wooden full-sized smile
          1. +5
            6 November 2017 12: 24
            And what was to be wise, a ball would be presented and okay ... laughing
        2. +3
          6 November 2017 12: 46
          Quote: oleg-gr
          An example is taken from the Nazis.

          this has long been understood, I wonder what they drowned already? and what is the tonnage of the sunk, if enough for a few crosses? Duren Dumka wealth ....
          1. +6
            6 November 2017 12: 57
            Quote: verner1967
            this has long been understood, I wonder what they drowned already? and what is the tonnage of the sunken if enough for a few crosses?

            The submarine "Zaporozhye" managed to sink for 25 years of rule. request And that Russia would not have drowned completely, welded to the pier. laughing There is no fleet, but a bunch of admirals and crosses from sunken ships. laughing Verily
            Quote: verner1967
            Duren Dumka wealth ...

            hi
          2. 0
            7 November 2017 10: 27
            Interestingly, and for the destruction of civilian aircraft they will be given aluminum crosses? Why, 6061-T6 alloy is very light, and the chest does not pull to the floor. Convenient, edron-loaf.
        3. +1
          6 November 2017 14: 29
          Not at all scorching type. If there is no swastika, then probably nobody will prove the continuity. What else will they take from the 3rd Reich?
          1. +1
            7 November 2017 05: 15
            an iron German cross appeared in 1813. there were no Nazis at that time. Moreover, the German cross was specially made so that it would look like the cross of the Teutonic Order .. and this is a stupid cross. I don’t even understand why they ripped it off and what is the meaning of this piece of iron.
            1. +1
              7 November 2017 10: 29
              Quote: cariperpaint
              The German cross was specially made so that it would look like a cross of the Teutonic Order.


              Moreover, the paradigm lies in the fact that the Teutonic Order completely refused to cooperate with the Wehrmacht and the Gestapo. The situation is exactly like in Ukraine. They are trying to drag decent people by their mustache into this slurry.
        4. +1
          6 November 2017 16: 01
          Quote: oleg-gr
          An example is taken from the Nazis.

          At the same time, they forget how they finished.
        5. +2
          6 November 2017 17: 08
          Quote: oleg-gr
          An example is taken from the Nazis.

          truth for the sake of the British, more precisely, from Queen Victoria, so that she always had enough oil in hell, it was she who poured Victoria's cross from Russian cannons captured near Sevastopol
        6. +1
          6 November 2017 18: 07
          An example is taken from the British. They have an award that is very rarely presented - it is made from two bronze cannons captured during the Crimean campaign of 1854 of the year.
          1. +1
            6 November 2017 20: 21
            until then handed by the way
        7. 0
          7 November 2017 09: 33
          birch with a head, metal still spend on them
    2. +11
      6 November 2017 11: 25
      I remember the Nazis was with oak leaves. And in Ukraine what will happen? With acorns?
      1. +15
        6 November 2017 11: 27
        With fat and moonshine. wink
        1. +8
          6 November 2017 11: 28
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          With fat and moonshine.

          They will be extinct and devoured. Although, do not run in a shinok. to wash the "reward"
        2. +7
          6 November 2017 11: 31
          Paul hi Really ours returned them “Zaporozhye"? Of what crosses it is necessary to do.
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          With fat and moonshine. wink
          1. +5
            6 November 2017 11: 33
            Hi Dima! hi
            Quote: 210ox
            Really ours returned them “Zaporozhye"? Of what crosses it is necessary to do.

            Do you still believe the word ukrohuntyatam? lol
      2. +3
        6 November 2017 12: 04
        Fritz, whatever you say, was beautiful
      3. +6
        6 November 2017 12: 07
        Quote: Smog
        With acorns?

        m portrait of the supreme chocolate man.
      4. +5
        6 November 2017 12: 22
        Quote: Smog
        And in Ukraine what will happen?

        remembered laughing with nuland cookies laughing
        1. +3
          6 November 2017 15: 52
          With two-faced Janus = Biden + Nuland.
          Around - a frame of streaming cookies, fragments of Lenin's monuments and subpoenas about the 6th mobilization.
          Below is a rider with a profile of Porashny and in a raincoat of candy wrappers on a rabbit with Yatsenyuk’s face — he shovels in one hand the scrolls with the Minsk agreements (curly snake and stinging him in all the chubby places with long teeth), and with the other hand he asks for a tranche from the IMF to the multi-star EU ring halo. The Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline is looping its neck. A riding rabbit with the face of Yatsenyuk holds in his front paw a suitcase already stuffed with currency and with a US visa in his breast pocket.
          The arms extend to the face of the all-chocolate rider from the lower hemisphere:
          - a woman with a characteristic hairstyle in the form of a twisted braid;
          - Kiev mayor with boxing intelligence - straight from the police and demonstrators who died, as well as from those who are "preparing for the ground";
          - always gloomy, but with his hands to the elbow in blood, acting president and pastor by vocation;
          - a radical deputy with a voluptuous face and a pink army beret;
          - a pronounced Georgian provocateur of military conflicts with a passport, in which there is nowhere to put foreign stamps;
          - Chairman of the party VO "Freedom" in a gray Lieutenant tunic of the Wehrmacht style, with the shadow of the "Führer", whose business lives on.
        2. +1
          6 November 2017 19: 25
          and with joggers from underpants laughing
      5. +1
        6 November 2017 13: 07
        Quote: Smog
        I remember the Nazis was with oak leaves. And in Ukraine what will happen? With acorns?


        With palm ...
      6. +4
        6 November 2017 13: 11
        Quote: Smog
        And in Ukraine what will happen?

        With a straw.
    3. +14
      6 November 2017 12: 06
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      Everything is clear - they put an end to the Navy.

      set early. they are being modernized
      1. +2
        6 November 2017 13: 08
        Quote: LSA57
        they are being modernized

    4. +1
      6 November 2017 13: 06
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      Everything is clear - they put an end to the Navy.



      Hmm ... They don’t put crosses on mass graves ... No. (V. Vysotsky) ...
      1. +3
        6 November 2017 13: 09
        But isn’t the work of Vladimir Semenovich in Ukroreich prohibited? what
        1. +1
          6 November 2017 21: 15
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          But isn’t the work of Vladimir Semenovich in Ukroreich prohibited?


          Duc .... Therefore, they don’t even know that in essence they will not need crosses anymore ... And their fleet will not need a cross anymore ... The costs of its manufacture will exceed the costs of maintaining the Getman Sagaidachny. .. laughing
          1. +1
            6 November 2017 21: 22
            I have not perceived Saigak Dachnoy for a long time as a full-fledged warship. George - with all due respect! hi
        2. +1
          7 November 2017 14: 39
          Have not guessed yet, probably ....
          1. +2
            7 November 2017 17: 13
            Leave room for maneuver? wink
  2. +5
    6 November 2017 11: 25
    Where can I get what they smoke? Just a little bit
    1. +3
      6 November 2017 11: 29
      This is unrealistic, because they are smoking their brains! !! wassat
    2. +4
      6 November 2017 11: 33
      Why do you want this? Want to become a zombie?
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      Where can I get what they smoke? Just a little bit
      1. +4
        6 November 2017 11: 42
        How is this why? Beat the enemy with his own smoke! laughingSo to speak, shoot enemies with what they shoot! lol
    3. +1
      6 November 2017 12: 04
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      Where can I get what they smoke? Just a little bit

      I do not advise. All bodily. For girls, tse is not Europe, tse Rio de Janeiro is plus, but for dope ts Kryzhopol ...
    4. +9
      6 November 2017 12: 10
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      Where can I get what they smoke? Just a little bit

      do not smoke, eat
      1. +10
        6 November 2017 12: 18
        Amazing people, a stew on the front line with working gloves, theft in the army and outright racket of command, ammunition depots explode, officers and soldiers thump like crazy, Navy NOT ... and they are medals "25 years of the Navy" ... which are not! belay fool
        Where is the head? .... request
        1. +5
          6 November 2017 12: 28
          Quote: Cutter
          in the army, theft and outright racket of command, ammunition depots explode, officers and soldiers thump like crazy,

          Quote: Cutter
          Amazing people, a stew on the front line with working gloves, theft in the army and outright racket of command, ammunition depots explode, officers and soldiers thump like crazy, Navy NOT ... and they are medals "25 years of the Navy" ... which are not! belay fool
          Where is the head? .... request

          there is none and never will be
          Since the days of the Soviet Union, nothing has changed in the Ukrainian army, except for a trident on caps. This opinion was shared by the famous journalist Ruslan Kotsaba on the air of one of the local television channels.

          He noted that the problems that were observed in the Soviet Army still have not left the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In addition, they were added frank sloppiness, disregard for their work and "drunkenness in black."

          Kotsaba noted that the state fed the army, which had never participated in a real war, but, in fact, simply changed its caps.

          “They were red stars in caps, and then they were suddenly told that you will now have a trident, that's all, they have changed and another army,” said the Ukrainian journalist ....
          Source: https://newinform.com/89573-pyanstvo-po-chernomu-
          na-ukraine-razvenchali-mif-o-novoi-nepobedimoi-ar
          thou
    5. 0
      6 November 2017 12: 20
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      Where can I get what they smoke? Just a little bit

      I would not recommend, firstly, a very difficult thing, for everyone who saw but still sentimental Russians, and secondly, she would stop where she should not look at night, and then in the morning look for the path to the Motherland ... hi
  3. +8
    6 November 2017 11: 26
    Something I can’t recall a single historical case when the Navy won a victory at sea
    1. +16
      6 November 2017 11: 30
      Well, poachers, then they already won lol from their boats crosses are cast!
      Maybe even the injury was taken away ...
      1. +6
        6 November 2017 11: 35
        The article is written
        the reward is interesting because it is cast from enemy weapons

        It looks like cast from hooks and baubles
      2. +6
        6 November 2017 12: 13
        Quote: Anarchist
        from their boats crosses are cast!

        and then they make a fool of their own. the boats were wooden. laughing
        1. +13
          6 November 2017 12: 38
          Then wooden crosses and a reward! Posthumously...
    2. +7
      6 November 2017 11: 36
      All victories of the Navy are so epic and secret that even fairy tales have not been invented about them! lol
      1. +7
        6 November 2017 11: 38
        We will wait when they declassify. Look about the fact that the Black Sea was dug by the Ukrainians, declassified only after a few millennia wink
    3. +5
      6 November 2017 12: 11
      Quote: pvv113
      Something I can’t recall a single historical case when the Navy won a victory at sea

      the other day they will tell. after all, they have such storytellers, you can envy
      1. +2
        6 November 2017 12: 14
        Indeed, the Brothers Grimm in coffins made more than one turn of envy wink
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      1. +1
        6 November 2017 14: 06
        Quote: Fitter65
        from THIS material and will pour the reward.

        A characteristic aroma award? wink
  4. +3
    6 November 2017 11: 27
    A miserable parody of Victoria Cross, but in fact "for frozen meat" or broken brains in races
  5. +7
    6 November 2017 11: 27
    new reward - iron Cross

    De-communization was successful, it is time to copy from fascist Germany.
    cast from enemy weapons used by enemies in battles against our sailors

    Diving for a long time? Or had to gouge out of their stupid heads. Actually, it’s interesting, and in what battles did modern Ukrainian sailors go?
    1. +4
      6 November 2017 11: 50
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Actually, it’s interesting, and in what battles did modern Ukrainian sailors go?

      In the battles for the microphone on the podium, they’re happy ... there are still battles taking place.
    2. +4
      6 November 2017 12: 15
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Actually, it’s interesting, and in what battles did modern Ukrainian sailors go?

      near Illovaysk laughing
  6. +2
    6 November 2017 11: 28
    IN WHAT IS THESE SUCH BOYS WERE THESE HEROES Panov? Something is not remembered either by ear or memory.
    1. +3
      6 November 2017 12: 16
      Quote: Sergey53
      Something is not remembered either by ear or memory.

      it was so long ago .... when writing was not yet ...
  7. +5
    6 November 2017 11: 28
    Moonshine is their main enemy. Apparently, it is cast from it! lol
  8. HAM
    +6
    6 November 2017 11: 31
    "Thirteen admirals on a dead man's chest - yo-ho! And a bottle of vodka!"
    And the crosses will be cast from the cruiser "Ukraine", only he was defeated in the "battle".
    1. +4
      6 November 2017 12: 18
      Quote: HAM
      And the crosses will be cast from the cruiser "Ukraine",

      they have already built an aircraft carrier from it
  9. +2
    6 November 2017 11: 32
    Symbolically! Really do not feel the catch in such a reward?
  10. +2
    6 November 2017 11: 32
    What difference does it make of what material to the traitors cross ?! made of copper, iron or aluminum ...
    They betrayed the USSR, betrayed Russia, and betrayed Ukraine for the sake of overseas cookies.
    And it would be better from pipes, wood or stone ....
    1. +7
      6 November 2017 12: 21
      Quote: prior
      And it would be better from pipes

      such? symbolically ... laughing
  11. +4
    6 November 2017 11: 32
    Iron cross, and what’s going on for it, for the Germans still had a sword and oak leaves on the cross, but here it’s pointless to blow oaks lol option, an iron cross and a shmat of fat, a cross and a collar, a cross and a tombstone on a grave wassat -the choice is huge! !!
  12. +7
    6 November 2017 11: 35
    Gotuvayte dyrosyku on the jacket

    1. HAM
      +5
      6 November 2017 11: 42
      What kind of aluminum are they, don’t you find it !?
      1. +4
        6 November 2017 11: 50
        In what important farts, to scare their raven in the garden. And where only managed to buy so much for themselves bryakalok.
    2. +5
      6 November 2017 11: 51
      Ushat Pasha and Sinyavin from the word bluewassat
    3. +6
      6 November 2017 12: 38
      Quote: mejik
      Gotuvayte dyrosyku on the jacket

      what are they fighting laughing Interestingly, they themselves are not ashamed to attach it?
    4. +1
      6 November 2017 13: 16
      Quote: mejik
      Gotuvayte dyrosyku on the jacket


      And they are proud, idiots, with their pendants ... bully
    5. +4
      6 November 2017 17: 00
      belay ический гот ический гот гот ю!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... ... ...!!!!!! ... ... ... ... ...!!! ... гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот гот ’ below the belly button? by the way, there is a place for him
      1. 0
        6 November 2017 21: 16
        Quote: assa67
        and two more for what ?..


        For having served in two classes in the second year ...
        1. +3
          6 November 2017 21: 25
          well maybe laughing ..... and the order of grunts, with a twist on the back, will be handed to all the maydans
  13. +1
    6 November 2017 11: 35
    A knowledgeable Odessa woman (Aunt Bela, whom the Germans saved from pneumonia), says that the moral and political condition of the Navy military personnel is such that “come and hire” ...

    I don’t know if the "cross ..." will help to change it. Here are guarantees from Chabad, even in the form of "everything will be fine with us" they would raise their spirits ...
    1. 0
      6 November 2017 12: 16
      They surrender the spirit to Naftogaz; they have bad gas.
  14. +2
    6 November 2017 11: 38
    Such awards must be cast with a weight of at least a pound so that the “heroes” with such a cross would go to the bottom immediately, with a stone.
    1. +4
      7 November 2017 09: 38
      under Peter in Russia there was a medal for drunkenness, weighing 5 kg ..... gunpowder, you need to screw six of them laughing
  15. +2
    6 November 2017 11: 39
    "... cast from enemy weapons ..." From the Soviet or what?
    1. +3
      6 November 2017 13: 12
      Quote: Roma-1977
      "From the Soviet or what?

      it is already rusty
  16. +3
    6 November 2017 11: 43
    Here is one such cross that is needed in order to drive devilishness from the authorities, otherwise there is no cross to ukroinu, from which even a little was able to seize power! !!
  17. +4
    6 November 2017 11: 51
    Where is the pan? Or is it the next degree of the "order" - an iron cross in a duralumin pan?
  18. 0
    6 November 2017 12: 09
    Quote: Smog
    I remember the Nazis was with oak leaves. And in Ukraine what will happen? With acorns?

    -------------------------
    As you can see in the photo, what’s with the anchor. In / in Ukraine, everything is anchored, and the fleet, and the country itself.
  19. +1
    6 November 2017 12: 11
    Quote: Herkulesich
    Iron cross, and what’s going on for it, for the Germans still had a sword and oak leaves on the cross, but here it’s pointless to blow oaks

    -------------------
    And then just Aizen Marina Kreutz. In general, there was no state system of its own, so borrowing from the USA and the Third Reich is underway.
  20. 0
    6 November 2017 12: 13
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    Where is the pan? Or is it the next degree of the "order" - an iron cross in a duralumin pan?

    ----------------------------------
    Casserole, hmm, take the above-auflyauf (pan German.). Or in general, zuhaus helm (home helmet). hi laughing
  21. +3
    6 November 2017 12: 27
    The towers are torn down - there is no one to believe ... There are still no lace panties!

    I will give myself to the first comer ... For a simple LOTTERY TICKET.

    Promised, wolves shameful, New, bright, careless World.

    We are proud children of Bandera! It does not matter that the country - a toilet.

    We were told that we were free, We were told that we were not slaves,

    That lace panties, fashionable, It is a symbol of our struggle!

    Cheated, cowards are not given! All knees are worn into the blood,

    The last two bucks stolen. How to believe now in love?
  22. +2
    6 November 2017 12: 27
    It is dedicated to the 25th anniversary of the creation of the Navy.

    AND! So the anniversary tsatska! Quoted lower than "For shock outfit in the kitchen" and "6 weeks without sexually transmitted diseases in the field."
  23. +1
    6 November 2017 12: 35
    "A wooden cross, a cast-iron cross is already visible in the darkness. - Do not promise the virgin young love everlasting on earth ..."
    1. +2
      6 November 2017 13: 09
      Quote: Stolz
      "Wooden cross, cast-iron cross

      And where is that from straw?
  24. 0
    6 November 2017 12: 48
    The material was just picked up incorrectly ... It would have been made of aspen one and a half meters long, so that everyone could see that this hero was hurrying a dozen to the graveyard ..
  25. +6
    6 November 2017 12: 50
    Iron Cross for the collapse of the Navy. So only hokhlopithecus hohlopithek can reward. Bravo!!!
  26. +8
    6 November 2017 12: 55
    According to the report, "the reward is interesting because it is cast from enemy weapons that were used by enemies in battles against our sailors.


    We are waiting for the announcement of all our battles won, and the list of trophies is very curious.
  27. 0
    6 November 2017 13: 00
    They got their next stillborn device, there are no exploits as there is no “Ukrainian Navy”, in fact, we got the usual anniversary crap for fans to beat the show off, it doesn’t matter what if the whole chest was hung up, and there it would be with ordinary icons!
  28. +2
    6 November 2017 13: 08
    They got it again))
    Well, the clowns there ...
  29. +1
    6 November 2017 13: 10
    "to the 25th anniversary of the Navy established a new award" ...

    Commemorative Token - "25 years without the Navy !!!"...
  30. 0
    6 November 2017 13: 13
    ... "dedicated to the 25th anniversary of the creation of the Navy."
    The usual anniversary badge! And worthless to him as a reward!
  31. +1
    6 November 2017 13: 26
    Aspen stake through the anus
  32. +2
    6 November 2017 13: 51
    Quote: Cutter
    and they are medals "25 years of the Navy" ... which are not!

    Well, you are in vain. They have a fleet. Already 1 frigate, 4 corvettes, 1 minesweeper and 1 SDK, 3 MDK (total 10 pennants) + various auxiliary vessels are unmeasured (also 10 pieces).
    There are as many as 6000 sailors (sorry, I don’t know the number of admirals).
    A full missile salvo of the Ukrainian fleet can sink, sorry, mistaken, make the Black Sea Fleet laugh. Already SIX missile launchers in the fleet.

    But with naval aviation they still have better. Although fewer flyers (as many as 1000 people), they probably have less generals. And the strike power is represented by 2 anti-submarine BE-12s (though not flying), 2 AN-26s (either in service, or in reserve) and 8 solid helicopters. Compared to 10 pennants of naval warships, as many as 12 units

    But aviation in quantity
  33. 0
    6 November 2017 14: 26
    But what, some kind of battles have happened over the past 25 years, and indeed with the "sailors" of Ukraine, where the enemy weapons were taken? Maybe try it on - although this is not the case with them.
  34. +2
    6 November 2017 14: 44
    Comrades Hahly! Handle the sharp edges of this "award"! Yes Well, like "cut the fly" lol . Well, you understand ... wink [B] [/ b]
  35. +1
    6 November 2017 15: 17
    cast from enemy weapons used by enemies in battles against our sailors

    Ukram Queen Victoria’s laurels do not give rest to sleep ?!
  36. +1
    6 November 2017 15: 20
    They don’t even need crosses on graves, - Crosses will come down on wings too!
  37. 0
    6 November 2017 16: 04
    So much stink from the badge ....
    We have more “Nazi” crosses than there will soon be schools, and people still go there to pray.
  38. +1
    6 November 2017 16: 05
    Iron cross from Adolf, a worthy reward for neobandera
  39. 0
    6 November 2017 18: 19
    "the reward is interesting in that it is cast from enemy weapons that were used by enemies in battles against our sailors

    Who has any guesses?
  40. 0
    6 November 2017 18: 30
    Quote: g1v2
    Not at all scorching type. If there is no swastika, then probably nobody will prove the continuity. What else will they take from the 3rd Reich?

    Concentration camps! sad
  41. 0
    6 November 2017 20: 34
    1. 0
      7 November 2017 02: 14
      This is the next naval para-log of the Navy !!!! The transition of an old missile boat from a surface to an underwater position in front of a small handful of Odessa residents (if they knew that it would have dashed would have escaped more)
  42. 0
    7 November 2017 02: 05
    With such an award, they don’t need crosses on the graves ... right by Vladimir Vysotsky!
  43. 0
    7 November 2017 06: 47
    Wooden cross them with a sign.
  44. 0
    7 November 2017 11: 16
    Let's assume that the EU and the States abandoned them. The probability is closer to 0, but still .. They will run to us on the run, they will catch the hesitant heroes of the ATO and hang them on the lanterns, hang RF flags on balconies, etc. Do you think they will become brothers again?
  45. 0
    7 November 2017 11: 22


    The birch cross - this is the only worthy reward for any loshka who is eager to die for the current food festival :-)))
    More shameful of the so-called "Ukrainian" army can only be the so-called "Ukrainian" fleet :-)))
  46. +1
    7 November 2017 16: 39
    And somewhere you can see the exile, to Ukrainian sources, that it called exactly iron Cross? And then on the box it says only: commemorative badge. And not a word about iron cross. The fact that the shape of the cross - so what? Few crosses have appeared in us? for example Order of Courage - the form is exactly the same copy Iron Cross, unlike the Ukrainian commemorative badge. And the restored St. George's crosses that replaced the Order of Glory:

    Aren't crosses really? And what, from this we became Nazis?
    Do not take me for a lawyer of the Kiev regime! Just instead of real, constructive criticism and analysis, VO, in recent years, has been posting more and more hysterical dregs about the color of berets of Ukrainian aeromobes "iron crosses" Navy. And with what excitement, these useless topics are picked up by portal users.
    Apparently behind a decrease in the quality of content producers, the quality of consumers is also declining. Or vice versa...
    1. 0
      7 November 2017 16: 50
      For the sake of justice, let's compare:




      And what are the findings?
      1. 0
        7 November 2017 19: 06
        Quote: AllXVahhaB
        And what are the findings?

        all these awards are crosses)))) Why is the swastika on the second cross not painted over and how does it differ from the first?
        1. 0
          8 November 2017 03: 26
          Quote: verner1967
          all these awards are crosses)))) Why is the swastika on the second cross not painted over and how does it differ from the first?

          Censored)))
      2. +1
        7 November 2017 19: 27
        What conclusions do you want? that there is such a cross sign and it is often used?) so we have all the awards almost now one way or another intersect with the St. George cross) like the German cross, our approximately since the 18th century received its form. and it makes a lot of sense. and its form very often and in other countries appeared yes and it is.
        1. 0
          8 November 2017 03: 29
          Quote: cariperpaint
          What conclusions do you want? that there is such a cross sign and it is often used?) so we have all the awards almost now one way or another intersect with the St. George cross)

          So I am about the same. And why such a hysteria about the Ukrainian badge?
          By the way, who calls him "iron cross" other than Runet resources?
          1. 0
            8 November 2017 03: 35
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            so we have all the awards almost now one way or another intersect with the St. George Cross)

            Redistribution))) Original:
            1. 0
              8 November 2017 05: 43
              why redistribution?) just since 2010, he is now like that)
          2. 0
            8 November 2017 05: 40
            Well, he cross and Africa cross. not a star for sure) but as for hysteria ... yes there is none. rather a laugh. There are clear concepts about badges. In my opinion, an anniversary badge is needed. but take the Greek cross stick to it an anchor and a trident. and on the block to choose this color is either a complete lack of taste or a hard troiling of their own sailors.