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The US has prepared sanctions against the FSB, the GRU, the SVR and the entire Russian "defense"

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The publication The New York Times reports that in the United States is ready to consider the next package of anti-Russian sanctions. In the package for the first time in stories the relationship between the two countries included sanctions against the Russian special services. It is reported that the document created in the depths of the US State Department, contains proposals for restrictive measures in relation to the Federal Security Service, the Main Intelligence Agency and the Foreign Intelligence Service.


The US has prepared sanctions against the FSB, the GRU, the SVR and the entire Russian "defense"


In addition, the document presents a number of proposals for Russian defense enterprises. A detailed list of enterprises for which either new or additional sanctions may be introduced by the United States can be introduced in the near future.

"Rosoboronexport", "Izhmash", "MiG", "Kalashnikov", "Rostec", "Sukhoi", "Tupolev", "PO XI" (microelectronics), Special Technology Center, "Digital weapon and defense "(TsOR)," Admiralty Shipyards "," Almaz-Antey ", Dolgoprudnensk NPP," Titan Barricades "," Izhevsk Mechanical Plant ", machine-building plant named after M. I. Kalinin, instrument design bureau, corporation" Tactical Missile Weapons " , Ltd. "Hammer-Weapon", Mytishchi machine-building plant, OKB "Novator", NPO "High-precision complexes", NPO "Splav", "Oboronprom", "Radio-electronic technologies", "Concern" Radio-technical and information systems "," Uralvagonzavod "," Russian Helicopters, UAC, Basalt, USC, UEC, United Instrument Making Corporation, etc.

The sanctions imply a ban on conducting commercial activities with foreign partners (with payment in dollars), restrictions on obtaining information and some other measures.

Recall that in the US there are still no sanctions imposed on the banks that serve the accounts of the terrorist groups ISIS (* banned in the Russian Federation) and Al-Qaida (*).
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  1. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 27 October 2017 05: 55
    +2
    Americans are getting more and more impudent. We’ll breathe according to their instructions. It’s time to give them Russia a skull to know who they are dealing with. Of course, I understand that our special services have nothing personal with the enemy , but the point is the principle of posing the question.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 27 October 2017 06: 01
      13
      Let me know. What? By a nuclear club? The economic and weight category is not that .. Truly, there is Safronenkov ... That can put a bucket of waste on the ears of the Security Council .. But it seems to have been pushed ...
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Americans are getting more and more impudent. We’ll breathe according to their instructions. It’s time to give them Russia a skull to know who they are dealing with. Of course, I understand that our special services have nothing personal with the enemy , but the point is the principle of posing the question.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 27 October 2017 06: 29
        +7
        Quote: 210ox
        True, there are Safronenkov ... He can put a bucket of waste on his ears in the Security Council .. But he seems to have been pushed ...

        Katn'n pesto figachite?
      2. stolz
        stolz 27 October 2017 08: 47
        0
        You might think that the employees of our special services are breaking into the States and storing money in their banks. Or do we not know something?
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 27 October 2017 14: 13
          0
          Quote: Stolz
          Or do we not know something?


          Hey. And what actually needs to be known - the next attack of sanctions diarrhea (sanctions against us, against Iran, towards the DPRK - in general, to all whom the exceptional were appointed outcasts). We need to spit on all these "innovations" and do our job calmly without fuss and "all-encompassing."
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 27 October 2017 10: 39
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        Let me know. What? By a nuclear club? The economic and weight category is not that .. Truly, there is Safronenkov ... That can put a bucket of waste on the ears of the Security Council .. But it seems to have been pushed ...

        C'mon, what’s there .... Iran has been under sanctions for 20 years and has not bent, even managed to get very close to its nuclear weapons. Cuba has been under sanctions for half a century, even without having a hundredth share of the military potential that the United States and North have. Korea, too, does not creep out from under the sanctions, but the broadhead keeps his mattresses at a respectful distance. Well, it will not be possible to trade in dollars, we will trade in Euros, RMB or gold, and nobody canceled barter. Here, soon, GDP and Xi will meet in Vietnam, this is much more interesting, especially what they agree on, face to face. And the fact that the United States is still digging a package of sanctions will not surprise anyone. Hostile country - hostile actions.
        1. Sharansky
          Sharansky 28 October 2017 13: 17
          0
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Iran has been and has not caved in under sanctions for 20 years

          only slipped to 118th place in terms of living standards. Somewhere to Uganda and Mozambique. And so all is well.
      4. Chestnut
        Chestnut 27 October 2017 12: 28
        +1
        Given all the circumstances, it is true that sanctions will be strengthened.
        And only now we see what a weak country Putin built.
        We are in monstrous slavery to imports, we don’t have our own industries that are important for the national security, we are too much embedded in the American web, the so-called world economy.

        And in the place of Putin, I would, in a strict manner, create a special service and production for medicines, because in the case of their prohibition, price hike, a demographic catastrophe will occur.
        We will live without iPhones, but without medicines there is no.

        Thank God we have our own food.

        In the second place, I canceled patent law in our country, because every year the terrible damage to the national security is inflicted, we are so behind in terms of high technology that we literally fell to the level of natives.

        And most importantly, you need to get out of the global economy, create your own, independent, closed.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 27 October 2017 13: 20
          +2
          Quote: Chestnut
          And only now we see what a weak country Putin built.

          Where did you look before?laughing When Yeltsin and the team ruined the country and ruined the industry, clearing the Russian space for import, and Chubais said without hiding: “Every closed plant is a nail in the lid of the coffin of communism” .... “Well, 30-40 million people will die out - that means they didn’t fit into the market "- then the GDP in the" builders "of a weak state did not go. From 1991 to 1998, thousands of enterprises, agriculture, and entire industrial sectors were destroyed, including pharmaceuticals for the benefit of the “foreign market”. But the little that remained in 1998 took the GDP. If Chubais "nailed up", then the GDP postpones something for a rainy day (1700 tons of gold), and even builds something ...
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 27 October 2017 16: 18
          +1
          Quote: Chestnut
          Given all the circumstances, it is true that sanctions will be strengthened.
          And only now we see what a weak country Putin built.
          We are in monstrous slavery to imports, we don’t have our own industries that are important for the national security, we are too much embedded in the American web, the so-called world economy.

          And in the place of Putin, I would, in a strict manner, create a special service and production for medicines, because in the case of their prohibition, price hike, a demographic catastrophe will occur.
          We will live without iPhones, but without medicines there is no.

          Thank God we have our own food.

          In the second place, I canceled patent law in our country, because every year the terrible damage to the national security is inflicted, we are so behind in terms of high technology that we literally fell to the level of natives.

          And most importantly, you need to get out of the global economy, create your own, independent, closed.

          In my opinion, he pulled the country out of shit. It is possible to build a closed, high-quality economy such as South Africa during the apartheid era, but even they collaborated with other countries in the field of the same medicine (through Taiwan and Israel to circumvent sanctions) and not only. And raising his production ... Putin talks about this and takes steps in the right direction ... but there is no business security yet. As soon as you start earning more than 2 million tanks a year, they try to squeeze your office.
          The mentality must be changed, tightened control over the executive authorities, etc.
    2. Evil543
      Evil543 27 October 2017 06: 01
      17
      Oh, sanctions, old new songs about the main thing ...
      Meanwhile, congratulations to McCain, this editorial of anti-Russian politics, on his jubilee, 50 years of captivity in Vietnam repeat
      1. Sergey-svs
        Sergey-svs 27 October 2017 07: 50
        +8
        Quote: Evil543
        Oh, sanctions, old new songs about the main thing ...

        Yes, for three years now we have had the same answer to all their sanctions, I hope it will not change in the future:

        tongue tongue tongue
      2. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 27 October 2017 09: 55
        +1
        Evil543
        "" Meanwhile, congratulations to McCain, this editorial of anti-Russian politics, on his jubilee, 50 years of captivity in Vietnam ""

        August 21, 2017 "in the Strait of Malacca, where the US Navy destroyer John S. McCain collided with an oil tanker Alnic MC flying the Liberian flag. The destroyer got a hole along the waterline at the back of the stern. Five of them were fighting for the survivability of the destroyer suffered, and ten people went missing. "
        ..in the back of the problem ...
    3. Finches
      Finches 27 October 2017 06: 03
      25
      "I wonder when we should wait for new sanctions for the Catalan referendum?" laughing

      I must say that when we were friends with America, in the 90s, friend Bill and all that - we lived very, very badly! So the worst sanction is friendship with America!
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 27 October 2017 07: 24
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        So the worst sanction is friendship with America!

        "God forbid us from such friends, and we will somehow manage the enemies ourselves."
        Popular wisdom, not once confirmed by time.
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 27 October 2017 07: 53
        +3
        What do you !!! ? And Bush’s legs ... One for four. My children still remember this "yummy". In fact, all the people were starving, except for thieves and bandits. Oh, these mysterious "new Russians" with a golden chain around their neck. Thieves and bandits. Yes, there were times B, B, Yeltsin, great and terrible. The current youth no longer knows. So that Mr. Director-Teacher doesn’t make a film about life about this simple time ..? And how many fates are broken! How many died, died, were not born, went missing ... Probably scary to shoot .....
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 27 October 2017 16: 21
          0
          Quote: 30 vis
          What do you !!! ? And Bush’s legs ... One for four. My children still remember this "yummy". In fact, all the people were starving, except for thieves and bandits. Oh, these mysterious "new Russians" with a golden chain around their neck. Thieves and bandits. Yes, there were times B, B, Yeltsin, great and terrible. The current youth no longer knows. So that Mr. Director-Teacher doesn’t make a film about life about this simple time ..? And how many fates are broken! How many died, died, were not born, went missing ... Probably scary to shoot .....

          Mikhalkov will play authority there))))
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 27 October 2017 17: 01
            +1
            But I'm not funny .. Too many losses during these dashing nineties!
      3. Kent0001
        Kent0001 27 October 2017 09: 04
        +1
        Yes, it is not necessary to be friends with them, it is necessary to get out of their influence, but one gets the feeling that no one needs this from us. It’s just us starting to run into the presidential election.
      4. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 27 October 2017 09: 08
        0
        Quote: Finches
        "I wonder when we should wait for new sanctions for the Catalan referendum?" laughing

        I must say that when we were friends with America, in the 90s, friend Bill and all that - we lived very, very badly! So the worst sanction is friendship with America!

        Oil prices and government were different. The quality of life of citizens of the Russian Federation is not a function of relations with the United States.
        1. Finches
          Finches 27 October 2017 09: 21
          +2
          Excuse me, you are not Navalny’s minion, since you so famously deny America’s involvement in the collapse of our country, including the quality of life of its citizens at that time? hi
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 27 October 2017 10: 39
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            Excuse me, you are not Navalny’s minion, since you so famously deny America’s involvement in the collapse of our country, including the quality of life of its citizens at that time? hi

            No, I can not stand Navalny)))
            States are involved in the collapse of the USSR, of course. I will enter the ring, I will keep my hands low, move my head forward, with my beard open - who will be to blame for being knocked out? Opponent? )))
            1. Finches
              Finches 27 October 2017 11: 59
              +2
              Good hi I understood your idea, but I don’t quite agree with it, my hands were tied ...
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 27 October 2017 15: 47
                0
                Quote: Finches
                Good hi I understood your idea, but I don’t quite agree with it, my hands were tied ...

                Well, they themselves got hooked on the oil needle, platinum free then built for billions to those who then sent tries, while their citizens lived in communal apartments, etc.
                Then they patted themselves
    4. Kent0001
      Kent0001 27 October 2017 09: 01
      +1
      But there’s nothing to give. We are so poor that we still supply them with rocket engines and strategic components for Boeing. Money is withdrawn from the country without restrictions (just in February Trump requisitioned them. Even the housing and communal services money was offshore in Cyprus, and they also requisitioned it at the time). Our elite has long been sold to them, we invest in their public debt, so we will soon breathe with their permission. And at the ruble exchange rate, it’s not December yet. (well, if I'm wrong about all this).

      And yet, this year there will probably again be a large population decline in the Russian Federation, so sanctions do not interfere with us, well, nothing.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 27 October 2017 05: 55
    +4
    Well, thank God! I’m waiting for when they personally apply sanctions to Vladimir Vladimirovich. Is the gut thin?
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 27 October 2017 06: 49
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, thank God! I’m waiting for when they personally apply sanctions to Vladimir Vladimirovich

      They have already found the money (Putin), only they cannot arrest (freeze) yes
      1. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 27 October 2017 07: 01
        +3
        Quote: You Vlad
        Money (Putin) has already been found

        And what did he lose them? Tell me where they found, I'll go look too. winked
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 27 October 2017 08: 14
          +1
          Quote: kirgiz58
          Tell me where you found

          Well, where is it? You are as small as secret information fellow But seriously, how can one be arrested, why not? request
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 27 October 2017 07: 29
        0
        "Found" not only the "billions" of Putin, but also his castles in Canada, Spain, on the Cote d'Azur and even in the United States itself. About this, for example, in Ukraine, even small children know, and in Russia even adult uncles, though only from a liberal party. They have their own "sources of information" there, of course not worthless.
        1. PalBor
          PalBor 27 October 2017 08: 10
          +3
          Envy is a sin. stop
        2. Zhelezyakin
          Zhelezyakin 27 October 2017 08: 41
          +3
          Found, just can not show. They say very good disguise in objects. You cannot see with the naked eye
          1. oldzek
            oldzek 27 October 2017 13: 08
            0
            found, found! This is known from the TASS-OBS agency message. I decipher the abbreviation: Aunt Agafya herself heard one grandmother said. A whole, very, very informed agency.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 27 October 2017 05: 58
    +1
    The US has prepared sanctions against the FSB, the GRU, the SVR and the entire Russian "defense"


    what Idiots ...
    lately something has been wrong with them lately ... they are increasingly using sanctions without realizing that they themselves are being driven into the swamp.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 27 October 2017 07: 36
      +1
      I don’t know, maybe I don’t understand something, explain it to me unreasonable, the defense is understandable, this is production, but how can the FSB, GRU and others sanctions be announced? Or how, for example, by analogy, to declare sanctions by the CIA, NSA, or the Pentagon? I am interested in the mechanism of this action. It seems to me that in the State Department, they grind with their tongues, but they do not turn on the brain. Aliens will fly tomorrow, Washington and slap sanctions on them. laughing
      1. Zhelezyakin
        Zhelezyakin 27 October 2017 08: 43
        +3
        The brain just includes. They drag out time and create the appearance of work, which means they master the budget. Only the name of the office does not correspond to them. Here the ministry of world clowning would have come ...
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 27 October 2017 09: 07
        +1
        There will be no exchange of information, employees will not be allowed to attend conferences on their territory, etc., i.e. will interrupt all communications.
        1. oldzek
          oldzek 27 October 2017 13: 14
          0
          which is simpler: declare an objectionable diplomat in any country and not only Russia as an employee of these special services and do whatever you like on a "legal" basis in accordance with sanctions. IMHO
  4. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 27 October 2017 05: 59
    +5
    Again, the State Department empty drives. Like a donkey, Eeyore with his ball, he will stick it in an empty pot, or stick it out. It only remains. The main thing is the process.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 27 October 2017 06: 03
      +4
      Yes. It looks like masturbation ... Treating is useless.
      Quote: iliitch
      Again, the State Department empty drives. Like a donkey, Eeyore with his ball, he will stick it in an empty pot, or stick it out. It only remains. The main thing is the process.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 27 October 2017 07: 41
      +1
      Quote: iliitch
      stick it in an empty pot, stick it out

      Most importantly, it is their bursting ball (and not someone else's, normal) that comes in and out. They are so amused. From what in Russia, there are only smiles.
  5. ochakow703
    ochakow703 27 October 2017 06: 01
    +3
    "Sanctions imply a ban on conducting business with foreign partners (with payment in dollars), a restriction on obtaining information, and some other measures." So you need to abandon the green candy wrappers (AT ALL) and pay with the ruble. And their sanctions ... let them push themselves into the ass. We just need to work calmly.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 27 October 2017 06: 19
      +6
      You will pay with a ruble in Auchan and Pyaterochka ..... even in BRICS trade flows are in bucks or in euros, well, a little in RMB, alas, but such are the revisions of life. laughing
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 27 October 2017 06: 26
        +1
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        You will pay with a ruble in Auchan and Pyaterochka ..... even in BRICS trade flows are in bucks or in euros, well, a little in RMB, alas, but such are the revisions of life. laughing


        Yes?!
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 27 October 2017 06: 33
          +5
          Not much. I am just stating a fact. Unpleasant, but from this it does not cease to be a fact. By the way, read about your Central Bank, maybe the “situation” with the ruble and the whole Russian economy now and in the future will become a little clearer https://narod-novosti.com/ekonomika/?p=komu-prina
          dlezhat-zolotovalyutnyie-rezervyi-rossii- &
          ; page = 1
          1. B.T.V.
            B.T.V. 27 October 2017 06: 46
            +2
            About our Central Bank, as well as about your public debt, they write a lot of things.
      2. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 27 October 2017 08: 10
        0
        Now all transactions have long been in euros, and not in green papers.
      3. Kent0001
        Kent0001 27 October 2017 09: 09
        +2
        Yes, the jingoistic patriots-inadequate and absolutely not versed in the economy already got it.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 27 October 2017 09: 11
      +1
      Quote: ochakow703
      "Sanctions imply a ban on conducting business with foreign partners (with payment in dollars), a restriction on obtaining information, and some other measures." So you need to abandon the green candy wrappers (AT ALL) and pay with the ruble. And their sanctions ... let them push themselves into the ass. We just need to work calmly.

      Here I am ordering something now for work in Germany. Will they accept my rubles?
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 27 October 2017 10: 56
        +3
        I think that if you ask well, they will accept it. But for this you need to be dressed in camouflage and lowering the barrel of your tank politely to ask: "Will you take rubles?" I think you will not be refused .... wink
        1. oldzek
          oldzek 27 October 2017 13: 18
          +1
          It has long been known that with a kind word and a gun you can achieve more than just a kind word .... well, and if you drive up to the tank. By the way, not the USA, this expression was born ???
          1. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat 27 October 2017 13: 44
            +1
            Not .... not in the USA. This is from the time of "humorous programs" in the USSR. There it was about market prices, like it’s good to go there on a tank, lower the muzzle of the tank at the seller and ask “how much? How much?” .... And about the “kind word and gun”, I think it’s from “The Man from the Boulevard of Kaputsinov "...
      2. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 27 October 2017 11: 08
        +1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Here I am ordering something now for work in Germany. Will they accept my rubles?

        If in Frankfurt on the Main in the famous center, then the dollars will not be taken, only bitcoins. Hackers they are such hackers tongue laughing
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 27 October 2017 16: 29
          0
          Quote: kirgiz58
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Here I am ordering something now for work in Germany. Will they accept my rubles?

          If in Frankfurt on the Main in the famous center, then the dollars will not be taken, only bitcoins. Hackers they are such hackers tongue laughing

          He lived in those parts, but I don’t know the famous center :(
          A mining farm I was already offered to open in Krasnodar)))
          I sent
  6. Mwg
    Mwg 27 October 2017 06: 04
    +3
    Not really in the subject, of course.
    "But here's the news: The ban on the production and use of hydrazine, toxic fuel for rockets (including Russian Protons) and satellites, which may be introduced into the EU in 2021, will be a disaster for the space industry, Space News reports. "
    Another pressure method found. And here we still have to make sharp movements. They are practically sitting on their heads and legs are hanging ...
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 27 October 2017 07: 45
      +1
      Quote: MVG
      Ban on the production and use of hydrazine
      Why, a very topic. What does Russia buy hydrazine in Europe, or in the states? In my opinion, it produces itself, like rockets, planes, tanks and everything else. Let them forbid.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 October 2017 08: 02
      0
      What does that mean? Hydrazine seems to be produced by us ourselves. And what are EU missiles flying on? If on this very hydrazine, then the disaster will come to the space industry of the EU, but not Russia at all.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 27 October 2017 08: 27
        +3
        Quote: Wedmak
        And what are EU missiles flying on?

        ESA missiles fly on liquid hydrogen, in particular Ariane, the only European carrier. Another question is that Europe uses the services of Russia to launch commercial satellites, here they can lose. However, here the logic of sanctions lies on the surface, the market for commercial launches, redistribute to the United States.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 27 October 2017 08: 44
          +2
          Honestly, I do not see the connection. Hydrazine is banned in the EU. We do not enter the EU. Anyway, it’s violet what they forbid there.
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 27 October 2017 09: 11
            +2
            Quote: Wedmak
            Honestly, I do not see the connection.

            Already wrote, the connection here is obvious. After 2012, Europe will abandon Russia's satellite launch services, citing this by atmospheric pollution with toxic fuel. You see, they’ll also connect the “green” ones, if we survive of course, otherwise, the trends are not very good ..
        2. Zhelezyakin
          Zhelezyakin 27 October 2017 08: 47
          +3
          Hello from import substitution in Mother Europe itself
      2. Mwg
        Mwg 27 October 2017 18: 37
        +1
        For Wedmak. RF is the main supplier of hydrazine in the world market. Moreover, almost all more or less serious rocket engines run on hydrazine
  7. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 27 October 2017 06: 07
    +2
    Quote: 210ox
    Let me know. What? By a nuclear club? The economic and weight category is not that .. Truly, there is Safronenkov ... That can put a bucket of waste on the ears of the Security Council .. But it seems to have been pushed ...
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    Americans are getting more and more impudent. We’ll breathe according to their instructions. It’s time to give them Russia a skull to know who they are dealing with. Of course, I understand that our special services have nothing personal with the enemy , but the point is the principle of posing the question.

    Yes, with what we are doing now. It’s not without reason that they are raising the pace of tension. Our policy, and our actions are like a sickle for wheat. And let a nuclear baton in the corner, will not be superfluous.
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 27 October 2017 06: 16
    0
    Is this the same trump on its entire head tramp, in this way "is establishing relations with Russia"? fool It will not be a pity if the United States repeats the fate of Atlantis, and preferably, as soon as possible, otherwise the whole world will be tired! !!
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 27 October 2017 07: 56
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      This is the same trump for all its head tramp, in this way "is establishing relations with Russia

      Tram does nothing on his own and, moreover, does not establish anything, he only signs and voices. He is a servant of the system and power elites in the United States, so to speak a scapegoat. The last US presidents who tried to establish something on their own ended badly. One was shot dead in Dallas; another was impeached. The same one, Kissinger, in terms of "building relationships", has many more powers than the president. Only about this, for some reason, they try not to talk.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 October 2017 06: 19
    +4
    The US has prepared sanctions against the FSB, the GRU, the SVR and the entire Russian "defense"

    Everything, a complete ambush. we can only get rid of fear. Something new - sanctions against special services. It means that soon in all likelihood the American diplomat will be detained red-handed during a special operation (unless they themselves calm down with fear).
  10. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 27 October 2017 06: 23
    +4
    Economic sanctions are quite serious. States may prohibit foreign banks from working with Russian partners. And they will not work. Even our banks do not work in Crimea under the threat of sanctions, let alone foreign ones.
    But sanctions against the special services are something new. As far as I understand, they already work in conditions of constant opposition by definition. And it is unlikely that they are credited to foreign banks. Does anyone know the details?
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 27 October 2017 06: 44
      +3
      Already. Already in the USA, any transactions with companies not just with "Russian jurisdiction", but even with those where "Slavic" names appear in the manual, are thoroughly examined by the fiscal authorities, which delays the passage of the contract itself. But this is not all - this control continues throughout the contract, slowing down both work and payment, constantly requiring some kind of supporting documents and so on ... as a result, entrepreneurs in the USA simply began to avoid having any business with Russian companies. .. Such, here, things, alas ... sad
      1. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 27 October 2017 07: 12
        +3
        The United States has enough opportunities to extend such measures to companies in other countries. Recall the Nord Stream.
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 27 October 2017 07: 29
          +4
          I agree that the Americans have created the entire modern global financial infrastructure and its interface, control it and use this control to their advantage and therefore can cut off any country from the global financial system, and this is very serious. Many here on the forum do not understand this, because they consider the world "independent" from the United States in their basic rights, and this is not so, the United States managed to take away from the whole world its basic right to its money. I hope you understand what I mean ....
          1. Kent0001
            Kent0001 27 October 2017 09: 13
            +1
            I agree that we simply cannot fight the creators of the system within the system. But cheers patriots do not understand this.
          2. Sergey53
            Sergey53 27 October 2017 09: 33
            +1
            Then you need to quickly introduce your analogue of SWIFT, quickly develop all industries, Change articles in the constitution that interfere with this. And finally, to take people away from the eyes of the government that even with the naked eye can see where they climb without soap.
            1. Monster_Fat
              Monster_Fat 27 October 2017 10: 22
              +2
              With "swift" everything is very complicated - it is a global system and there, besides the program itself, there are also "Swift" servers in different countries, and if you create your own "swift", you need to get permission from world financial institutions to accept this new standard as an international and Spend on distributing it around the world. And who will allow you this? China tried to do this at the time, they told him that their system was "not needed" because it was enough and existing. China has gone down the road to push through its digital authentication system in the Asian region with subsequent spread further. But this is not a matter of one year ... But Russia ... there are many places where it can push its system? Look, even with the "Old Man" can not agree ...
            2. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 27 October 2017 10: 46
              +1
              Quote: Sergey53
              Then you need to quickly introduce your analogue of SWIFT, quickly develop all industries, Change articles in the constitution that interfere with this. And finally, to take people away from the eyes of the government that even with the naked eye can see where they climb without soap.

              The question is, who will support this analogue of the swift? Belarus, Kazakhstan, Iran (which I strongly doubt), Syria, Cuba, Venezuela?
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 27 October 2017 08: 05
      0
      Quote: Mikhail M
      But sanctions against the special services are something new.

      This is not something new, this is in my opinion frank stupidity, if not idiocy. According to the logic of current American "strategists", if any somethingthat the State Department does not like, then you just need to slap (I can’t find another word) sanctions. With this logic, I won’t be surprised if tomorrow the weather and natural disasters will be included in the list of sanctions. lol
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 27 October 2017 10: 50
      0
      Quote: Michael m
      Economic sanctions are quite serious. States may prohibit foreign banks from working with Russian partners. And they will not work. Even our banks do not work in Crimea under the threat of sanctions, let alone foreign ones.
      But sanctions against the special services are something new. As far as I understand, they already work in conditions of constant opposition by definition. And it is unlikely that they are credited to foreign banks. Does anyone know the details?

      Now, under the pretext of sanctions on special services, it will be possible to freeze the account or refuse to carry out tranches to any Russian who has assets in Western banks. The whole cartoon is in it. Impact on the quality of life of the active part of the population.
  11. Tusv
    Tusv 27 October 2017 06: 24
    +2
    information restriction

    How lovely. It turns out that the Yankees willingly shared info with intelligence?
    And so what are the sanctions, if they don’t buy it anyway, and whoever buys it doesn’t care about future sanctions
  12. cedar
    cedar 27 October 2017 06: 50
    +2
    Not sanctions, but blows. Which adversary inflicts more and more on the Russian economy, and therefore on the State, its political system and its Leader. Everyone feels the deterioration of life, but not everyone understands that this is the result of a war of annihilation.
    War gentlemen - comrades, the third year has been going on, and we are all sanctions, but sanctions.
    Things should be called by their proper names ..
    But everything is “blue” and “blue”, and they are pederasts, and they call them pederasts and they sit in congresses and other senates, and try to go into the back hemisphere and bend everyone through their media, banks and agents.
    The enemy is disguised, but war is the art of deception.
    See at the root of the "sanctions", dear.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 27 October 2017 09: 15
      +1
      So we are not defending ourselves, and our Leader always emphasizes that the United States is the only superpower.
  13. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 27 October 2017 07: 07
    +1
    The US has prepared sanctions against ... the entire Russian "defense"

    Apparently, they will cease to produce illegal copies of "Kalash" and RPGs.
  14. Livonetc
    Livonetc 27 October 2017 07: 10
    0
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Not much. I am just stating a fact. Unpleasant, but from this it does not cease to be a fact. By the way, read about your Central Bank, maybe the “situation” with the ruble and the whole Russian economy now and in the future will become a little clearer https://narod-novosti.com/ekonomika/?p=komu-prina
    dlezhat-zolotovalyutnyie-rezervyi-rossii- &
    ; page = 1

    You are apparently a follower of shredism.
    Take care of yourself.
    Look at the US debt.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 27 October 2017 07: 37
      +2
      Yes, how can you live without our duty, heartfelt? Our printing press has already heated up to print both dollars and treasure, everyone needs them. Look, your Central Bank is trying to get every "extra" penny out of your economy, convert it into dollars and buy Treasuries (US debt obligations) on them. wink
  15. VadimSt
    VadimSt 27 October 2017 07: 25
    +1
    It is necessary to send them a telephone directory of MTS of Russia and let everything be included in their list. Why give the US Republican Administration a pretext, every month, to torment Congressional Democrats — we are not barbarians? We are Russians"!
  16. Wedmak
    Wedmak 27 October 2017 08: 08
    +1
    The list is extensive ... it seems the United States decided to put pressure on Russian arms exporters. And stopudovo will shove their own, meanwhile hoping that without contracts our defense industry will bend.
    In my opinion, this is more than serious. It is necessary to introduce reciprocal and very painful sanctions - to stop the supply of titanium to Boeing and Airbus, to prohibit them from delivering RD-180 and finally disconnect the Americans from deliveries to the ISS. For nefig. They put us sticks in the wheels wherever possible, and we supply them with high-tech products and services. How so?
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 27 October 2017 09: 17
      0
      But like this. And now we will not answer.
  17. Orionvit
    Orionvit 27 October 2017 08: 09
    0
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    in the USA they simply avoided having any business with Russian companies

    Something the market, for example, “iPhones” in Russia, does not suffer. And from Russian rocket engines. they refuse until they are going to. Two-faced creatures.
  18. JonnyT
    JonnyT 27 October 2017 08: 47
    +3
    This is all nonsense ....... US sanctions against defense industry enterprises are just a tool for competition in the global arms market. Sanctions against special services are a clear resentment for the smeared specialists of the CIA, the FBI with the Zindans of ISIS.

    The faster our authorities realize that they have no place in the west, and that you no longer eat truffles and foie gras with a vinyl at your dacha in 400q. Matrev on the Cote d'Azur. all the better.

    Cut off all trade and economic ties with the United States and its satellites! Concentrate on the domestic national market. Strengthen BRICS cooperation. SCO, CIS.
    Uppal, McDonald's, British American Tobacco, Coca-Cola, Procter ind Gambel, Mars, etc. - all out of the Russian Federation !!!! Sorry, your congress has imposed sanctions on the activities of your companies in the Russian Federation. Let them now lobby for the lifting of sanctions in Congress to return.

    Many will say how so? These are investors, jobs, etc. Only now, profitable market niches will quickly be occupied by other companies - either national or from friendly countries. Poke patties into the roll, making a swill from which the ulcer and teeth dissolve a lot of the mind. Moreover, it is necessary to give way to young specialists from the Russian Federation. They will be only too happy to fill the gap.

    But the main problem is agents of US influence in the Russian government. There are ministers and officials in our government who are stupidly sitting on pullbacks with the profits of Western companies.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 27 October 2017 09: 20
      0
      Che with the whole world to break off relations? What will BRICS and secondary school and other shnyaga give? China will not help us, but the rest of the people are in the cold (neither money nor technology). Hindus and those are already leaving our influence. And we have all the forums, forums, blah blah blah.
      Unfortunately, the entire EU is the Yankees vassals.
  19. Bronevick
    Bronevick 27 October 2017 09: 16
    +1
    Because there is no worthy answer.
  20. Sergey53
    Sergey53 27 October 2017 09: 24
    0
    There should be our asymmetric answer. We kind of call it that.
  21. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 27 October 2017 09: 42
    +1
    I quote: Sanctions imply a ban on conducting business with foreign partners (with payment in dollars), a restriction on obtaining information, and some other measures. Sanctions are stupid - because when dealing with foreign partners they can be circumvented, they will even partially help get rid of dollar dependence. Sanctions against the GRU, the FSB - well, there will be information about the terrorist acts being prepared in the USA - you will not receive them - for they are now not ordered to receive them. Another surprise is why our authorities persistently insist that without Russia it is impossible to solve a single major issue. Whatever they say, the question of sanctions is a big question. So they took it and decided, it must not be assumed that the GDP in person ... Tired of our desire to pack friends as friends.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 27 October 2017 10: 45
      0
      Get around .... You still find those who want to get around. Do not forget about such a serious component of Western business as "reputation". This "reputation" in Russia means nothing - "kidalovo" is almost the main distinguishing feature of doing business in Russia. But in the West, everything is not so in this plan - the “reputation” has been developed for decades and no one will be there, for the sake of dubious momentary benefits, to risk their “reputation”.
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 27 October 2017 11: 44
        +1
        After 2014, nobody seriously hoped for the possibility of cooperation with Western business, and by and large we did not give a damn about them, those elements of cooperation. which previously took place, our enterprises have largely outlived, and where they remained, you can get by with illegal supplies. Regarding momentary benefits. Siemens turbines were delivered to Crimea bypassing sanctions. So what? Several ritual dances were danced to the Russian Federation, swearing was heard. But cooperation is still ongoing. Here is Turkey, the US ally paid an advance payment in Russia for the supply of S-400, and that ... Regarding the "reputation", all companies cooperating with the Russian Federation are well aware that the sanctions against the Russian Federation have no material ground, especially in that part that we chose trump. Yes, they will act more sophisticatedly, but only ...
  22. Eurodav
    Eurodav 27 October 2017 10: 34
    0
    "... FSB, GRU, SVR ..." Will they no longer give our intelligence agents information? It's all gone, chef!

    ".... Sanctions imply a ban on conducting business with foreign partners (with payment in dollars) ..."
    Well, we will pay for the information with something else, anyway, take it!
    The American Trade Union of Professional Sexots, Agents and Traitors will respond to these sanctions with protests and rallies! They then how to live now?
    1. LPD17
      LPD17 27 October 2017 11: 02
      0
      typical bot answer on salary
  23. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 27 October 2017 10: 35
    0
    And we are all waiting for "manna from heaven" in the form of cooperation and mutual respect. It's time to take off the pink glasses.
  24. ROM1077
    ROM1077 27 October 2017 10: 51
    0
    and what sanctions do we have for the great patriotic famine, we experienced cold ... and we don’t give a damn about sanctions ...
  25. LPD17
    LPD17 27 October 2017 11: 00
    0
    I'm still waiting for a simple answer from the authorities. Counter sanctions. in the mirror. they are the FSB - from us - to the CIA and so on.
    There will be no answer?
    suffered or a slave? that dares not answer nor give back?
    such people are not respected.
    ANYWHERE and NO ONE.
  26. weksha50
    weksha50 27 October 2017 13: 08
    0
    Well, with regard to the enterprises of the Russian defense industry, the sanctions are clear ... More precisely, their effectiveness and efficiency ...
    And how this will be implemented: "contains proposals for restrictive measures against the Federal Security Service, the Main Intelligence Directorate and the Foreign Intelligence Service"... ??? ....
    And now, what, the FSB, the GRU and the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service in the United States freely and calmly carry out their activities? laughing
  27. weksha50
    weksha50 27 October 2017 13: 12
    0
    Quote: Evil543
    Oh, sanctions, old new songs about the main thing ...
    Meanwhile, congratulations to McCain, this editorial of anti-Russian politics, on his jubilee, 50 years of captivity in Vietnam repeat


    And why didn’t he sit in that captivity? How would it be calmer without him at the zoo?
  28. Wolka
    Wolka 27 October 2017 15: 38
    0
    Having accepted these sanctions, the Yankees signed a sentence ...
  29. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 27 October 2017 15: 42
    0
    ha ha ha well ridiculed! imposed sanctions on spies :)) And what do they know all of our agents by list? know who not to be allowed into the country? :)))
  30. Slam
    Slam 27 October 2017 16: 36
    0
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Quote: Sergey53
    Then you need to quickly introduce your analogue of SWIFT, quickly develop all industries, Change articles in the constitution that interfere with this. And finally, to take people away from the eyes of the government that even with the naked eye can see where they climb without soap.

    The question is, who will support this analogue of the swift? Belarus, Kazakhstan, Iran (which I strongly doubt), Syria, Cuba, Venezuela?

    And Transnistria?
  31. Slam
    Slam 27 October 2017 16: 41
    0
    Quote: ROM1077
    and what sanctions do we have for the great patriotic famine, we experienced cold ... and we don’t give a damn about sanctions ...

    Better in hunger and in the cold, but with jumps.
  32. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 28 October 2017 07: 13
    0
    The seizure of a reins by shameful maskwitches implies similar schools in a great country ...
    The main pillars ... and for everyone