Party of Kalashnikov rifles from Russia goes to the Philippines for free

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Philippine media publish confirmation of information that the country expects a batch of Kalashnikov assault rifles from Russia for the needs of the Philippine security officials. Earlier, President Rodrigo Duterte announced that Russia would donate 5 thousands of automatic barrels to Manila’s official weapons.

Philippine newspaper Philippine star claims that we are talking about AK-47 machines. As is known, this is an early version of the Soviet weapon developed by MTKalashnikov. In the Russian army AK-47 (or rather, just AK) is not used today, but there are quite a few such weapons left in military warehouses. If the AK is actually transferred to the Philippines, then such a military-technical gift is quite understandable: relations between the two countries have recently improved significantly, and the Philippines continues to face a direct terrorist threat.



Party of Kalashnikov rifles from Russia goes to the Philippines for free


According to updated data, a ship with 5-th thousand automata from Russia will arrive in the Philippines on October 22. This became known from the message of the Minister of Defense Delphine Lorentzana. From the statement of the Minister:
Russia gives us weapons without any conditions. In the future, we may conduct joint military exercises to strengthen cooperation between our countries.


Earlier, before President Rodrigo Duterte came to power, the Philippines positioned itself as one of the main US allies in the Asia-Pacific region. Duterte accused the United States of trying to interfere in the internal affairs of the Philippines and began to develop the Russian vector of Philippine relations. Manila's relations with Beijing have significantly improved.
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  1. +5
    October 13 2017
    Warehouses must be emptied .. By the way, an interesting fact. During the Second World War, Americans dropped disposable pistols to Filipino partisans .. But this is “good” and is not suitable for AK soles.
    1. +16
      October 13 2017
      The main thing is not to go left .. But like Rodrigo Duterte, the guy is serious and cool! Let them clean up the country! Narkoshi and all sorts of scum probably urgently leave the country.
      1. +5
        October 13 2017
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        The main thing is not to go left.

        Do not leave - each machine has a personal guide.
        1. 0
          October 13 2017
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          The main thing is not to go left .. But like Rodrigo Duterte, the guy is serious and cool! Let them clean up the country! Narkoshi and all sorts of scum probably urgently leave the country.

          Drug dealers have machine guns, mortars, helicopters and airplanes. They themselves will not leave.
    2. +8
      October 13 2017
      Warehouses need to be vacated.

      And then why didn’t they start with PPSh? wassat
      1. +7
        October 13 2017
        And we’re supplying “daddies” to Amerzians. They say they are in demand. And if without irony, then they were already massively remelting
        Quote: Yarik
        Warehouses need to be vacated.

        And then why didn’t they start with PPSh? wassat
      2. 0
        October 13 2017
        Quote: Yarik
        And then why didn’t they start with PPSh?

        He has a weak action)))
      3. +6
        October 13 2017
        it’s still worse .... to start in this case it is necessary with mosquitoes, nagans and maxims .... but if where the berdanks are found so I definitely won’t be surprised ....
        1. +6
          October 13 2017
          Quote: d ^ Amir
          it’s still worse .... to start in this case it is necessary with mosquitoes, nagans and maxims .... but if where the berdanks are found so I definitely won’t be surprised ....

          Hehehehe ... when in Ukraine in 2008 they laid out a list of what they were going to sell from the warehouses of the MOU, collectors joyfully rubbed their hands.
          For in the list were: sniper "mosinki", SVT, PPSh, APS, DP (yes, "pure" DP, without "M"), "Maxim", DShK (also "clean"), CPV (without "T") .
          From “foreign cars” - “Walter” RRK, RR, R-38, “Parabelum” R-08, PP Thompson arr. 1928 and 1942, rifles VZ-24, machine guns MG-34 and 42, as well as ZB-30.
          1. +3
            October 13 2017
            Quote: Alexey RA
            From "foreign cars" - "Walter" RRK, RR,

            Where are they from? Police model? I can not believe it somehow.
    3. +5
      October 13 2017
      And you can transfer my share, one hundred and forty millionth from this gratuitous party, to me personally. If Shoigu has a lot of money, then I'm not bling. These machines are made with my money, so why does someone give to someone without asking me. This also applies to writing off debts to other countries. Whoever decides to write off, let him debit from his account, and not from the state.
      1. +5
        October 14 2017
        Think small, comrade. Are you preparing to exchange the country for sausage again?
      2. 0
        October 14 2017
        Quote: papas-57
        Whoever decides to write off, let him debit from his account, and not from the state.

        Writes off the one for whom they voted.
  2. +5
    October 13 2017
    why AK so persistently call AK-47
    1. +30
      October 13 2017
      Quote: rpek32
      why AK so persistently call AK-47

      Because...
      1. +7
        October 13 2017
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Because...

        now i know more
        thank you
      2. +1
        October 14 2017
        You have instructions for a test sample. The documentation always, like a convoy, lags behind real events by several steps (years).

        And here you will see the real AK-47 (ugly) and AK-48
        http://modernfirearms.net/assault/rus/ak-akm
        And if you dig in the Internet, you will find out that he shot 7,62x cartridges41 (for AK 7,62x39) and terribly wedged.
        1. +2
          October 14 2017
          Quote: Genry
          You have a test sample instruction

          I open the "Infantry Weapon" Murakhovsky and Fedoseyev. Section: rifles and machine guns. Soviet Union. I read: “In the late 40s, the Kalashnikov assault rifle was adopted under the designation AK-47. So I'm sorry, but the sources differ. request
          1. 0
            October 14 2017
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            I open the "Infantry Weapon" Murakhovsky and Fedoseyev. Section: rifles and machine guns. Soviet Union.

            Somehow you too believe books. They are not written for history, but for salary and they are hacking as they can. If something is written more often, this does not mean that this information is more true than the one that is written less often. Imagine how you are being conducted on PR and advertising. Think with your head and relate to any information, if not with suspicion, then at least critically.
            1. +2
              October 14 2017
              Quote: Genry
              . Imagine how you are being conducted on PR and advertising.

              It seems I’m not being fooled. Ask Shpakovsky, this specialist in PR and advertising, is angry at me here.
              Quote: Genry
              Think with your head and relate to any information, if not with suspicion, then at least critically.

              So your information from the Internet also does not cause much confidence. There are even more hacks here, although I am critical of the book, because it’s the 92nd year of release. Here, probably, the forum member Gross Kaput will not judge us, even though he is like a weapon designer. hi
  3. +3
    October 13 2017
    That’s good it will be cheaper to give out than to dispose of)
  4. +3
    October 13 2017
    It is high time to dispose of the ancient AKs in the Third World countries and rearm the RA with modern small arms.
  5. +8
    October 13 2017
    can I have a couple? I'll pay for delivery ...
    1. +16
      October 13 2017
      Go to the Donbass. There is...
      1. +28
        October 13 2017
        From there you can return without an AK, but with a bullet from it ...
      2. +1
        October 13 2017
        thanks) but I'm still a pass. Perhaps only after you))
    2. +3
      October 13 2017
      Quote: bogart047
      can I have a couple? I'll pay for delivery ...

      No way. Comrades from the police will not understand. crying
  6. 0
    October 13 2017
    If the delivery is at their expense, it’s generally wonderful.
  7. 0
    October 13 2017
    They need it now.
  8. +14
    October 13 2017
    And in response, pineapples and bananas can not be free ?? Poor Russians cannot do anything to them alone ...
    In the future we can spends

    Well, give me at least one machine gun! I will find a way to sell this piece of iron and transfer money, or rather to buy candy for them from children from orphanages ... otherwise Vasilyevo-Serdyukovo-Ulyukaev is poor and poor. Well, and that tree, which for some reason is sorry for the Filipinos and in no way our children, without parents ..... request

    DEBILS Russia is a generous soul, we continue to feed everyone but ourselves.
    We will pay for their teachings ...
    1. +9
      October 13 2017
      [quote = Roman 11 [/ quote]
      rude ... but true in essence.
    2. +6
      October 13 2017
      16.36. Novel! Well! We blame the businessmen for profit, but themselves !? A little what, and what will I have from this materially !? And if you discard the material and think about the spiritual? Here many dream to wet in the outhouse. Will we water ourselves everywhere? Or maybe it's better to help those who want to wet? Even gratuitous (gift) supplies. Have you seen on the internet how they chopped off the hands of thieves and put their limbs in a bag?
  9. +3
    October 13 2017
    It is high time. Just do not believe that everything is "just like that."
  10. +3
    October 13 2017
    Why is it necessary to jam the striped terrorists in the Philippines? I approve.
  11. +7
    October 13 2017
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    But like Rodrigo Duterte, the man is serious and cool

    handsome! ... looks like Chavez .... today he threatened to send the European Union out of the country .... again, he suggests that we build a base
    1. +5
      October 13 2017
      Quote: assa67
      handsome! ... looks like Chavez .... today he threatened to send the European Union out of the country .... again, he suggests that we build a base

      A handsome colleague is a handsome man, you can’t argue! Only in the Philippines is a president elected once request and who comes after Duterte, God alone knows what And besides, there are 8 striped military bases in the Philippines. hi
      1. +7
        October 13 2017
        I won’t argue, if you want, the mericosa will crush him for one, two or three .... but at least it's nice to listen to the news from the Philippines .... good
      2. +1
        October 13 2017
        Quote: vovanpain
        Only in the Philippines, the president is elected once a request and who comes after Duterte, only God knows

        Well, the law in connection with the state of emergency and the fight against the mafia can be corrected .. hehe! Moreover, such a batch of weapons came in as support!
        Then the US will start squeezing out from there .. They are not building socialism there! We need any allies now ..
        1. +8
          October 13 2017
          1) Duterte is old. He, for natural reasons, can.
          2) A small batch of weapons. China has already delivered more. He also poured several billion bucks into the Philippines with investments over the past year alone.
          3) Weapons of the wrong system. I am skeptical about its use. For the army and the police are already sitting on the 5.56 / 7.62 NATO + trained according to the methods / manuals for Aroids. Again, China has already 3000 installed its Aroids and will deliver 4000 before the end of the year - for free.
          1. +2
            October 13 2017
            Quote: donavi49
            1) Duterte is old. He, for natural reasons, can.
            2) A small batch of weapons. China has already delivered more. He also poured several billion bucks into the Philippines with investments over the past year alone.
            3) Weapons of the wrong system. I am skeptical about its use. For the army and the police are already sitting on the 5.56 / 7.62 NATO + trained according to the methods / manuals for Aroids. Again, China has already 3000 installed its Aroids and will deliver 4000 before the end of the year - for free.

            They put everything on the shelves and there is nothing to particularly object to ...
            And yet Russia is still worn out, along with China for the Philippines!
            The task of the United States to squeeze out of this region .. And we will do it!
            1. +8
              October 13 2017
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              instructions under the Aroids.

              we don’t need instructions for our AKs, the whole world knows them))) ... besides, I don’t think that the party was sent without ammunition .... not enough sent? ..
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              And yet Russia is still worn out, along with China for the Philippines!

              maybe we’ll throw some more Americans on the snot ... there, with Fidel in Cuba there were about 30 people at the beginning ... and then a whole nation is at hand
              1. +4
                October 13 2017
                So why does the army need another cartridge. They already have problems with logistics in the south. The issue is not the presence / absence of supplies of cartridges / magazines / body kit. The question is that now the delivery of everything is tied to other caliber / weapon systems. And add another cartridge / other stores / other additional equipment = complicate logistics and cause level problems, on this block are 5 Aroids and 30 AKs, but the cartridges on the AK came with 1 box, and 5.56 - 10 boxes.

                They know better. But as the heavy battles for Maravi show, the infantry of the Philippine army is well equipped for urban fighting and shows itself very worthy. But there are no mobile fire platforms. Only armored cars — which are vulnerable to mines, RPGs, and even infantry machine guns — don’t hang them with crates.

                What T-62M there would be kings of the battlefield. For the anti-tank systems are not there and the broads have no place to take them (even buying from the army will not work). Accelerated - about two months ago (when the negotiations started), the Filipinos could already have a tank company. And this made a much greater contribution to the victory than AK. They, out of hopelessness, already 105mm howitzers are rolling out for direct fire, according to the Perekatipole system (that is, they are building a barricade with movable shields, then they are rolling out a howitzer there).
                1. +3
                  October 13 2017
                  yes, tanks wouldn’t hurt them at all Yes
                2. 0
                  October 13 2017
                  Quote: donavi49
                  But as the heavy battles for Maravi show, the infantry of the Philippine army is well equipped for urban fighting and shows itself very worthy. But there are no mobile fire platforms. Only armored cars - which are vulnerable to mines, RPGs, and even infantry machine guns, do not weigh them with crates.


                  These apricots can not beat 3 months in one small town 2x2 km of the enemy. Where is the dignity?
                  1. +3
                    October 14 2017
                    The infantry respects them.
                    They are fighting hard, with virtually no armored vehicles.
                    The infantry equipment is also good, nevertheless it is an army with squads - where there is a Marxman, a machine gunner, a fighter with an under-barrel grenade launcher, a medic, and not like anyone in Iraq-Syria, but we’ll bandage the wounds with a scarf.

                    The problem with them is that they fight for 3 days, then a stop order and a week of negotiations. Again, there is no way to suppress the firing point - nothing. Aviation helps a little, but it’s not that.

                    For example, when there was a big contrast from the inside, outside and even on boats, in early September. IG - declared 50 dead soldiers Duterte. CSKA about 8. In this battle lasted two days. Not a single block of Filipinos surrendered, ran away, abandoning everything. And there was even a camouflaged shahidmoped (according to the 6 army soldiers who died from him) - that the exotic is fierce and the child prodigy practically.
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        2. 0
          October 13 2017
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          Well, the law in connection with the state of emergency and the fight against the mafia can be corrected .. hehe!



          Well so ... And to amend the Constitution on the number of times and duration of the presidential term no one (except the United States) does not bother to accept ...
          1. 0
            October 13 2017
            Quote: weksha50
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            Well, the law in connection with the state of emergency and the fight against the mafia can be corrected .. hehe!

            Well so ... And to amend the Constitution on the number of times and duration of the presidential term no one (except the United States) does not bother to accept ...

            Well, of course ... Do you think the United States will bomb the Philippines?
            1. +1
              October 13 2017
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              Do you think the United States will bomb the Philippines?


              They will stop Duterte from staying in power for a long time ...
    2. 0
      October 13 2017
      Quote: assa67
      Quote: DEPARTMENT
      But like Rodrigo Duterte, the man is serious and cool

      handsome! ... looks like Chavez .... today he threatened to send the European Union out of the country .... again, he suggests that we build a base

      What to place on this base? Tug and three motor boats?
      1. +3
        October 14 2017
        Yes, even the catamarans for our tourists .... sheathed them with cardboard, here's an aircraft carrier for you laughing
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  13. +3
    October 13 2017
    But what about the bad Soviet Union, which helped everyone?
    1. 0
      October 13 2017
      Quote: Gardamir
      But what about the bad Soviet Union, which helped everyone?

      An obsessive ideology has ruined us .. Now another format and Russia is doing pretty well, in which we even surpassed the USSR (in politics, of course, and intrigue ..))))
      1. 0
        October 13 2017
        not we the USSR surpassed only by the number of dollar billionaires otherwise we are busy at the bottom)))
  14. +2
    October 13 2017
    It's actually interesting. Why do they need AK. Rather, how departments will fight back from them in order to write them off to an eternal warehouse.

    They have no AK culture at all. There are no rounds for him. There are no methods for working with him.

    They have the entire national police and army on the 2 and 5.56 NATO calibres.

    Moreover, when the PRC concluded an agreement on assistance (2 Ila - different for the first time and a whole ship different just recently). Then the Filipinos insisted that they put weapons precisely under 5.56 (Chinese Aroids) and 7.62 NATO - Chinese SVD.
    1. +1
      October 13 2017
      China delivered free of charge:
      CQ-A5b (Chinese Aroids) - 3 000 and 4 000 in the near future.
      3 million cartridges of 5.56 / 7.62 NATO (another 4 million in the process).
      90 CS / LR4A Rifles complete with ammo and sighting systems.
      TY-85 - Chinese SVD under 7.62 NATO and with a more advanced sight.
  15. 0
    October 13 2017
    One question - DO WE NEED IT? During the Soviet era, one Russian KFOR with a platoon of marines always solved ANY problems in Southeast Asia, sending ANY convoys through ANY straits .. without blood, ransom and unnecessary witnesses ..
    1. +1
      October 13 2017
      Quote: Angry 55
      In the days of the USSR One Russian KFOR with a platoon of marines always solved ANY problems in the South-East

      This is why we should fight for all? We have that few soldiers die, they have nowhere to put? Just what immediately Russian in some war to throw ..... We will learn to respect ourselves? Whoever wants it — to health, all kinds of PMCs, etc., just leave the Russian soldier alone, our army has already fought - it’s better to warm up and burst at home, but strengthen the defense.
      1. +3
        October 13 2017
        18.21. Novel! An army without combat experience becomes an army of janitors! I don’t remember who said that. But the observation is correct!
  16. +3
    October 13 2017
    Beggars pulled up. Russia is the richest. Maybe it’s better to lower taxes.
    1. +2
      October 13 2017
      Quote: Ken71
      Beggars pulled up. Russia is the richest. Maybe it’s better to lower taxes.

      And then the pensioners are starving ... A familiar song hehe
    2. +3
      October 13 2017
      Quote: Ken71
      Russia is the richest.

      You won’t believe it that way.
      1. +1
        October 13 2017
        Quote: Irokez
        Quote: Ken71
        Russia is the richest.

        You won’t believe it that way.

        How many of us have been robbed and destroyed in our history ... But Russia is becoming stronger. A paradox and a mysterious Russian soul! We found huge reserves in the Arctic ..
        Thanks to our ancestors, who left us such a huge and rich territory .. Of course, we made a lot of things, but we will return everything! soldier
    3. +1
      October 13 2017
      Quote: Ken71
      Maybe it’s better to lower taxes.



      Ahem ... Or maybe - on the contrary - introduce the so-called luxury tax, from which the boyars in the Duma shy away with horror for a whole year?
  17. +1
    October 13 2017
    There, throw our tanks 54 and 55.
    1. +2
      October 13 2017
      Quote: Sasha75
      There, throw our tanks 54 and 55.

      Loading, sending, unloading .. It is very expensive! It’s easier to melt .. Or bunkers from them to make at the borders.
  18. +2
    October 13 2017
    Is free? Assault rifles? .... And why not the Hussites, LDNR or Hezbollah? ...
    1. +7
      October 13 2017
      Toka Quiet ... No one ... I will reveal a terrible Secret ...
      Not only automatic machines miraculously fall into the LPR and DPR. Guess who manages this miracle. Yes
      1. 0
        October 13 2017
        Quote: Fedorov
        Toka Quiet ... No one ... I will reveal a terrible Secret ...
        Not only automatic machines miraculously fall into the LPR and DPR. Guess who manages this miracle. Yes

        Who is the “grandfather fir” .. I won’t be surprised that there have long been “Iskander” standing on the battlefield, if the horses trample ..
  19. +2
    October 13 2017
    Quote: Fedorov
    Toka Quiet ... No one ... I will reveal a terrible Secret ...
    Not only automatic machines miraculously fall into the LPR and DPR. Guess who manages this miracle. Yes

    So Block also wrote: "In the white corolla of roses ahead of Jesus Christ!" good
  20. +1
    October 13 2017
    "we are talking about AK-47 assault rifles"...

    Served with him urgently ... A good machine, especially a bayonet-knife ... So, later on, I couldn’t get used to the new bayonet-knife ...
    In warehouses - full ... They also need to be released ... Well, why not help those who can’t stand Amers? Yes
    1. +1
      October 13 2017
      Quote: weksha50
      A good machine, especially a bayonet-knife.

      So I think and for this they set it ... To quietly and without firing, put things in order! negative
  21. 0
    October 13 2017
    It is necessary to change the bullshit Amersky.
  22. 0
    October 13 2017
    Yes, yes, tell me what’s for free, to the public for free, but actually for bucks, but in secret.
  23. +1
    October 13 2017
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    Rodrigo Duterte is a serious and cool man! Let them clean up the country! Narkoshi and all sorts of scum probably urgently leave the country.

    in Mexico there is no Duterte to squeeze local drug dealers-thugs
  24. 0
    October 13 2017
    you can’t sell it to third countries - such a condition must exist! and so everyone had an AK machine, but it wasn’t for mene - it’s necessary that he was - they will respect
  25. 0
    October 14 2017
    should anyone bark against America as weapons begin to flow inexhaustible flow, free of charge. Right already reflexes worked out. request
  26. +2
    October 14 2017
    In Russia that there are no problems? When will these gifts end at the expense of and to the detriment of the Russian Federation?
  27. 0
    October 14 2017
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Quote: d ^ Amir
    it’s still worse .... to start in this case it is necessary with mosquitoes, nagans and maxims .... but if where the berdanks are found so I definitely won’t be surprised ....

    Hehehehe ... when in Ukraine in 2008 they laid out a list of what they were going to sell from the warehouses of the MOU, collectors joyfully rubbed their hands.
    For in the list were: sniper "mosinki", SVT, PPSh, APS, DP (yes, "pure" DP, without "M"), "Maxim", DShK (also "clean"), CPV (without "T") .
    From “foreign cars” - “Walter” RRK, RR, R-38, “Parabelum” R-08, PP Thompson arr. 1928 and 1942, rifles VZ-24, machine guns MG-34 and 42, as well as ZB-30.

    ... there wasn’t a karamultuk? .. Ukrainians are good Kurkuli, if it’s good to joke around the storehouses so much has been jammed since Noah’s times ..
  28. 0
    October 14 2017
    Quote: renics
    Yes, yes, tell me what’s for free, to the public for free, but actually for bucks, but in secret.

    ... in terms of bucks .., service for service .., you tell us - we will ..
  29. 0
    October 15 2017
    Quote: Novel 11
    And in response, pineapples and bananas can not be free ?? Poor Russians cannot do anything to them alone ...
    In the future we can spends

    Well, give me at least one machine gun! I will find a way to sell this piece of iron and transfer money, or rather to buy candy for them from children from orphanages ... otherwise Vasilyevo-Serdyukovo-Ulyukaev is poor and poor. Well, and that tree, which for some reason is sorry for the Filipinos and in no way our children, without parents ..... request

    DEBILS Russia is a generous soul, we continue to feed everyone but ourselves.
    We will pay for their teachings ...

    Another hybrid of the navel of the earth with supermind homegrown on parsley.
    Such actions have an equivalent value / value that is many times higher than the cost of a batch of AK-47. But it is difficult for your parsley-mind to realize, it is better to shout and amuse yourself with populism.

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