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Kursk-1968. Bloody massacre

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Mass executions of civilians by armed criminals in the Soviet Union were very rare and loud incidents. But, nevertheless, single crimes of this type still occurred and became a real shock for Soviet citizens. Very often, they tried to hide or ignore the true motives of criminals. One such crime occurred in Kursk on September 27 of the year 1968.


At eight o'clock in the morning on the Railway Square Kursk was as always crowded. Who was in a hurry to meet relatives and friends, who went to work, who just arrived in the city. When strange claps were heard, at first citizens didn’t pay attention to them. Only when the square began to fall on the ground for no reason at all passers-by, panic began. It became clear that someone was shooting at people passing through the square. Since the entire 23 of the year has passed since the end of the war, among the passers-by men, of course, there were also young people with front-line experience. They were able to quickly prevent panic and send a lot of passers-by to the station building in order to hide from bullets.

Kursk-1968. Bloody massacre


A car arrived at the square carrying prisoners who were to follow the stage. When the car stopped, it quickly became the main target for the bullets of unknown shooters. One of the bullets hit the car body, resulting in the death of a prisoner. An experienced driver immediately realized that they were shooting at an avtozak and decided that this was an attempt to recapture the prisoners in order to free them. Therefore, he dashed off and drove into the courtyards, where the paddy wagon safely hid from bullets.

Meanwhile, residents of one of the houses located on Privokzalnaya Square, irritated by the noise from the neighboring apartment, called the police. They already understood that it was from this apartment that they were shooting at people in the square, and they informed the duty officer. As we know, at that time the Soviet militia, especially in the provincial Kursk, lacked special forces, similar to the riot police or SWAT, and the experience of prompt response to such situations. The most ordinary militiamen — sentry officers, operatives of the criminal investigation department were sent to the scene. A group of policemen approached the door of a strange apartment, but shots rang out from there. Miraculously, none of the law enforcement officers were hurt. In the next apartment the police organized a headquarters. The head of the city department tried to start negotiations with the people who sat down in the apartment. At the same time, a unit from a part of the internal troops lodging in the city was called to help the policemen. Here the terrible details of the incident began to be clarified.

26 September 1968 from the part of the Internal Troops of the USSR Ministry of Public Security (as 25 in November 1968 was called the Ministry of Internal Affairs) stationed in the city of Kursk, two soldiers fled - the private Korshunov and the corporal Surovtsev.

Private Viktor Nikolaevich Korshunov in his unit was in good standing. He was drafted into the army after being expelled from the institute, possessed strong-willed qualities and toughness. He shot very well, was considered the best shooter of the unit, and shortly before his escape, he received the badge "Excellence in the Soviet Army." At that time, this sign meant a lot and any soldier who deserved it could be quite proud of it. Korshunov served almost two years. However, there were certain flaws in his biography. Korshunov’s father during World War II served as a policeman for the Germans, for which he was subsequently convicted. In addition, Korshunov Jr. himself was expelled from the institute for disciplinary offenses, and also often expressed suicidal feelings. However, after 23 after the war, his son ended up serving not just in the army, but in part of the internal troops.

Unlike Private Korshunov, the corporal Yury Stepanovich Surovtsev served only a year. He was appointed head clerk for his excellent handwriting, but he did not stand out for other successes, as well as personal qualities. Moreover, he also had problems, and those that really did not allow him to serve in the army. Surovtsev was a very impressionable and excitable person, could fall into a hysterical state, cry. Before being drafted into the army, he underwent a course of treatment at the Kursk Regional Psychiatric Hospital. If such a person could be drafted into the army, then clearly not in the internal troops.

In mid-September, 1968, Victor Korshunov received a letter from home. He wrote a girlfriend. The soldier was waiting for a letter from her lover, but it didn’t bring him joy - the beloved informed that she was marrying another man and the wedding had already been scheduled. For Korshunov, this news was a real shock. In fact, millions of Soviet and Russian soldiers were faced with this problem and were somehow worried. But the unstable psyche of Korshunov did not allow him to cope with such news. Korshunov, and earlier "indulged in" suicidal thoughts, firmly decided to die. At the same time, he made the decision to “take someone with him” - in order to die, it was not so depressing. But for the realization of his plan he needed an assistant. And the choice of Korshunov fell on Yura Surovtsev (pictured). The corporal with the features of psychological infantilism agreed to the proposal of his colleague. Moreover, he, too, was convinced of his unsuccessful life and occasionally expressed suicidal thoughts. The soldiers decided to flee from the unit, “walk for last” and “with music” to die.

But for the escape it was necessary to wait for the duty of Korshunov in the rifle company. In the rank of ordinary soldier Korshunov stepped on the night of September 26 1968. He managed to persuade the lad to go to sleep - brotherly. Naturally, of course, he agreed - and that the soldier is sleeping - the service is on. Moreover, the senior colleague and friend Korshunov simply could not arouse any suspicion in him. So Korshunov was alone. He took two Kalashnikov assault rifles, two pistols and ammunition. Kidnapped weapon He and Surovtsev, who had arrived in time, were placed in two suitcases, before that they cut down the butts. Then the soldiers left the unit without any problems and went to the center of Kursk, catching a ride. The two soldiers of the internal troops didn’t arouse any suspicions either - most likely, he could have taken the soldiers with their suitcases for going home.

Arriving in the city center, Korshunov and Surovtsev did not even know what they would do next. At first they discussed the possibility of capturing the city party committee, but this was a very difficult task. Moreover, in the building of the city committee there was also a police station. Then Surovtsev offered to seize not the city party committee, but the prosecutor’s office, but Korshunov refused here because he was also afraid that the prosecutor’s office could be guarded. The co-workers did not come to a common denominator, so they decided to break into any apartment, grab it and continue to think what to do next. They arrived at the house where their friend lived. In a two-room apartment there were eight people - a friend of the soldiers, her children and relatives. Knocking on the door, the soldiers entered and immediately shot the hostess of the apartment. Then they shot the younger daughter of the hostess, her husband and their children - a boy and a two-year-old girl. Only their friend survived - the eldest daughter of Mistress Tamara, as well as her two children.

So that the shots could not be heard, the soldiers used pillows, but such a self-made “silencer”, of course, could not serve as a complete isolation of sound and the neighbors had heard machine gunfire. One of the residents of the house called the police. But the person on duty hurried to reassure the woman - what kind of shooting in the peaceful, Soviet Kursk in 1968 could she say?
- Most likely, just a motorcycle drove, - summed up the duty officer and hung up. Meanwhile, if the police arrived in time on that call, it would probably have been possible to prevent at least the execution of civilians in Privokzalnaya Square.

Meanwhile, the soldiers who shot five people realized that they simply could not make the way back. Under the harsh Soviet laws, the death penalty inevitably awaited them, which meant there was already nothing to lose Korshunov and Surovtsev. In the morning they sent Tamara for vodka, leaving the children as hostages. When Tamara returned, without telling anyone about what was happening - out of fear for the children, the two children were already dead. The older girl was shot, and the younger one was smashed with an iron. After that, the soldiers tied Tamara and threw her in the bathroom, while they themselves began to get drunk. Vodka flowed like a river all day.

On the morning of September 27, a little nodled Korshunov and Surovtsev examined the apartment seized. It was located on the fourth floor, and from the window there was a beautiful view of the square. At about eight o'clock in the morning, the best shooter of the unit, Private Korshunov, took a position at the window of the apartment and began shooting at passersby.

Militiamen gathered at the apartment, Korshunov said that he had captured eight people hostage. But he didn’t put forward any demands than he hit the police chief. Why was to commit this crime? Then the police did not know that the hostages were dead, otherwise they would calmly go to storm the apartment. They called the commander of the unit where Korshunov and Surovtsev served. And it was he who managed to take the first step towards resolving the situation. By this time, the headquarters of the operation had already received information on what psychologically Korshunov and Surovtsev represent. The division commander decided to put pressure on the impressionable Surovtsev and demanded from the corporal that he, as the senior in rank, order Korshunov to surrender. But Korshunov refused to surrender. The commander of the unit ordered Surovtsev to shoot the terrorist Korshunov. As a result, in the 10 hours of the 16 minutes, the corporal Surovtsev with a burst from an automatic machine gunned down an ordinary Korshunov. Having settled with a colleague and accomplice, who pushed him to a terrible crime, Surovtsev surrendered. He was specially dressed in a police uniform to get out of the building, around which a huge crowd of Kursk residents gathered, who were going to make a mob of justice over the deserters - the murderers.

It turned out that at the hands of criminals 24 man suffered. Thirteen people were killed, eleven people were injured of varying degrees of severity. Of the thirteen killed, seven people died in the apartment (only Tamara was left alive), five people were passersby on Privokzalnaya Square and one person was a prisoner who was in a paddy wagon. In those times, it was just a blatant crime that was reported to Moscow - to Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev himself. About the shooting of civilians in Kursk became known abroad. The enemies of the Soviet state immediately took advantage of this tragedy. Radio Voice of America reported that in the Soviet city of Kursk, in protest against the “dictatorship of the CPSU” and the entry of Soviet troops into Czechoslovakia, two soldiers “revolted” and carried out a mass execution. So the West tried to present bloody murderers - drunken deserters almost as heroes of the struggle against the Soviet power. Western media use this practice in the information and psychological war against our state today. Suffice it to recall how they are trying to make terrorists fighters for independence, punishers - supporters of building a democratic state, liars and provocateurs - living not according to lies.

Yuri Surovtsev, who had dealt with Viktor Korshunov, was arrested. His interrogations began, during which he gave detailed information to the investigators. history a terrible crime, including the motives that pushed his friend Korshunov to escape from a part and kill people. Neither the introduction of troops in Czechoslovakia, nor the attitude to the Soviet government, or other political reasons as a crime motive in the testimony of Surovtsev did not appear.

In Soviet times, with murderers, especially such bloody and cruel, did not stand on ceremony. 2 November 1968, after only a little more than a month after the crime, the exit session of the Moscow Military Tribunal sentenced citizen Surovtsev Yury Stepanovich to death by firing squad. After a short time, the death sentence of Surovtsev was carried out.

Of course, such events at that time tried not to advertise, but there were few of them, at least in comparison with modernity. Subsequently, such stories with the soldiers of the Soviet Army began to occur more often. And one of the main reasons for this was the reduction of the criteria set by military enlistment offices for draftees. Previously convicted people began to get into the army, with the experience of serving real terms in prison, people with mental disabilities like Surovtsev and, probably, Korshunov, alcoholics and drug addicts. Naturally, all this entailed very negative consequences. But if from the first problem - the lack of special forces and the police to fight terrorists - the authorities eventually concluded and created such structures, then they actually refused to solve the second problem for many decades, which led to many tragedies related to military crimes.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 11 October 2017 07: 22
    14
    .... and the city lived a calm and peaceful life ... A common occurrence for the USSR, when whole cities disappeared from the map and ... SILENCE. So that people do not get nervous and people live HAPPY, in their ignorance.
    Forever, we have two extremes, then we SILENT about everything negative, then WE TELL ABOUT everything negative, and since we have plenty of negative things in life, there simply is no room for other news. Maybe it's time to hold on to the middle?
    1. Vend
      Vend 11 October 2017 09: 56
      +2
      People are always people. And it doesn’t matter what system in the state, the difference is only in the number of such terrible cases.
    2. Looking for
      Looking for 11 October 2017 13: 36
      +3
      2 !!!!, 2 schizophrenics for 220 million is a common occurrence for the USSR? !!
      1. svp67
        svp67 11 October 2017 13: 39
        14
        Quote: Seeker
        2 !!!!, 2 schizophrenics for 220 million is a common occurrence for the USSR? !!

        For the collapse of the USSR, the same two were enough ...
  2. XII Legion
    XII Legion 11 October 2017 07: 24
    28
    Very interesting
    Did not know about this event
    with murderers, all the more so bloody and cruel, did not stand on ceremony
    And right
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 11 October 2017 07: 33
      +3
      I did not know about this event, about such cruel acts. How much they already talk about deviations of the psyche.
    2. verner1967
      verner1967 11 October 2017 09: 22
      +2
      Quote: XII Legion
      Very interesting

      two children were already dead. The eldest girl was shot and the youngest was smashed with an iron.
      about killing children with these ghouls is interesting?
      1. XII Legion
        XII Legion 11 October 2017 11: 18
        25
        about killing children with these ghouls is interesting?

        No - it’s interesting to find out what I did not know about before
        Do you have any problems?
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 12 October 2017 13: 28
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          Quote: XII Legion
          It’s interesting to know what I did not know about before

          Interest in a normal person manifests itself in entertaining and interesting things, with the goal of knowing the world. And if you are interested in such things, then
          Quote: XII Legion
          You have any problems
          like those who approved your answer
    3. brn521
      brn521 11 October 2017 10: 38
      +3
      Quote: XII legion
      Very interesting
      Did not know about this event
      with murderers, all the more so bloody and cruel, did not stand on ceremony
      And right

      But there are also negative consequences. And we observe an illustration of this in the given case. Two loonies decided to "beautifully" die. And so that there was no turning back, they committed a crime for which they were sentenced to capital punishment. As a result, having chopped off all the ends, they had no choice but to continue to "have fun". Why the number of corpses increased dramatically. But it happens, and vice versa, as a result of a deed, a psycho suddenly falls into place. He suddenly begins to want to live, his own affairs become disgusting to him. And he himself is ready to give up. However, only certain cases are known to me, I have no statistics. But surrender after a brutal murder is not such a rare thing. If only the emotions rule the psycho, this is one thing. Emotions are volatile, and obsessions do not always survive the test of reality. But in addition to emotions, sober calculation may also come into play. Especially if there is nowhere to retreat and in the future only the tower shines. The policemen from the given case were lucky that they were able to push one of the psychos. And even then they would stick out under the door so far. Or they would have climbed the assault and there would have been dead bodies. What can you do? It now makes sense to persuade to surrender and release the hostages, put pressure on the psyche for this, appeal to the feeling of self-preservation. What they do. And the suicide bomber doesn’t give up at all in the subject, on the contrary, it’s more fun to glue the flippers in battle, putting as many attack aircraft as possible.
  3. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 11 October 2017 07: 27
    +8
    Alcoholics and drug addicts .. Polonsky, are you crazy? Two morons is power. Especially armed.
    1. brn521
      brn521 11 October 2017 10: 47
      +5
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      Two morons is power. Especially armed.

      That's that. The formation of the army on the call has not only advantages, but also disadvantages. For example, when the seizure of passenger aircraft in the USSR began, they began to form specially trained groups from ordinary conscripts to attack aircraft in such cases. And since they were conscripts, i.e. whoever got the roof of a couple of fighters from such a group and what did they do.? They seized the plane and took the stewardess hostage. Draftees are a routine. A constant change of personnel dramatically increases the chance to run into a nut.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 12 October 2017 19: 14
        +6
        These conscripts passed the VLK like pilots. The slightest deviation, free. Only adequate were enrolled in the group by order. There were even Moldovans laughing But really adequate guys. We still communicate and respect each other at OK.
        1. brn521
          brn521 13 October 2017 10: 07
          0
          Quote: Doliva63
          These conscripts passed the VLK like pilots

          VLK is not enough. It takes a lot of time to take a closer look and collect statistics. Then a person can really be considered verified. Urgent service did not provide this time. Plus, the organization’s drawbacks, when the commander of the unit was forced to fight for good statistics, which is why some bad cases were not documented. And a verified person can easily give up slack if he finds himself in the wrong company. Rotten apple injures its neighbors. And if this sheep also appears in the role of leader? Plus, the established Russian mentality, according to which cooperation with superiors or regulatory authorities is a shameful thing.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 13 October 2017 18: 26
            +5
            About mentality is a pearl! laughing
            You know little about conscripts, probably what work was done with them (well, where it was, of course). Only a fighter comes, a whole “business” started up for him when he started smoking, that he smoked, with whom, what he was sick with in life, from which family, what school, what the class teacher says about him, the health of relatives, all kinds of “girls”. We knew about our l / s EVERYTHING. And tested every 6 months. still.
            And then, when such an conscript is paired with you, and on the contrary - 2 Tajiks with machine guns, you know that he breathes the same air with you, he trusts you endlessly.
            This is a long topic, which, unfortunately, the Russian Defense Ministry has closed for a long time.
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 13 October 2017 18: 38
              +5
              I forgot another moment - a mandatory connection with my parents. At least once every half a year, but certainly. You can learn a lot from them. And if a business trip is somewhere nearby, then a visit is a must.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 12 October 2017 05: 06
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      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      Alcoholics and drug addicts.
      The question arises, are there alcoholics at such a young age and were they then? Just a drinker or an alcoholic ----- these are two big differences. Also about drug addicts. It was different with the Soviet Union than now.
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 11 October 2017 07: 36
    +5
    A car carrying prisoners arrived at the square
    .. The convicts were in the wagon, they were brought to the station for further transportation to places of detention ...
  5. kvs207
    kvs207 11 October 2017 08: 34
    +2
    Previously convicted people with experience of serving real sentences in places of deprivation of liberty, people with mental disabilities like Surovtsev and probably Korshunov, alcoholics and drug addicts began to get into the army

    It is interesting that in one of our VSS companies there were 30 percent of convicts, though according to the “light” articles and not a single “unsettled” in my memory. So, first of all, it all depends on the person.
  6. Lex.
    Lex. 11 October 2017 08: 46
    +3
    In the United States, you won’t surprise anyone with such incidents in Las Vegas; a millionaire massacre arranged for him what motives were he mad about?
  7. mar4047083
    mar4047083 11 October 2017 08: 50
    +7
    That's who turned out to be the ideological inspirer of Stephen Peddock. No wonder prominent writers and commentators consider the USSR and Russia the birthplace of elephants. All significant discoveries have occurred with us. September 11, also not stupid Arabs came up with. Back in 1972, the Soviet ace Timofei Yakovlevich Shovkunov made the first ramming of a house in the history of civil aviation in Voroshilovgrad. They did not stop there. In 1976 this glorious feat was repeated in Novosibirsk. Here he is a "mini Manhattan"
    Pay attention to how high-quality Soviet houses are built, unlike American ones (the consequences of rams are minimal).
    1. verner1967
      verner1967 11 October 2017 09: 20
      +3
      Quote: mar4047083
      Pay attention to how high-quality Soviet houses are built, unlike American ones (the consequences of rams are minimal).

      Well, you compared the An-2 with a Boeing)) Moreover, the towers withstood the blow, they collapsed from the fire, and according to conspiracy theories, from the detonation of explosives planted by the CIA or the FBI, to choose from. Otherwise, I agree with you.
      1. BAI
        BAI 11 October 2017 10: 31
        +4
        A lot depends on the size of the aircraft. I look here have already raised the question of Irkutsk.
        This I understand, too, from there.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 11 October 2017 10: 42
          0
          From our garrison, men, I personally knew some of them. Eternal memory to them!
        2. verner1967
          verner1967 11 October 2017 10: 45
          +3
          Quote: BAI
          This I understand, too, from there.

          Is the second shot from there? Not from Holland, where the DHL Boeing 747 broke the hostel when it crashed into the city, losing both engines in the sky?
          1. reservist
            reservist 12 October 2017 11: 20
            +2
            +1
            This is not Irkutsk, but Amsterdam
        3. corporal
          corporal 11 October 2017 14: 51
          +1
          The second photo is not Irkutsk.
      2. mar4047083
        mar4047083 11 October 2017 13: 40
        +3
        Well, so is the house - a panel "five-story building." What a building, such a plane (everything is proportional). Some irresponsible people call domestic architects octopuses, they say legs from the ears, hands from the w ..., and the head is in the w ... But this is a false propaganda. They build everything qualitatively (the house survived the fire too). And it doesn’t matter what caused the towers to collapse, the main thing collapsed (that is, real handcuffs come from the USA).
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 11 October 2017 19: 02
          0
          Quote: mar4047083
          And no matter what the towers collapsed from, the main thing collapsed

          Well, yes, and even Stalingrad was razed to the ground with bombs, it also doesn’t matter from which they collapsed, were the builders "ruzhosh ..mi"? In our city, such a panel five-story building collapsed in 1979, and who is to blame?
          1. mar4047083
            mar4047083 11 October 2017 19: 14
            +3
            Residents of the villains are to blame, improperly exploited.
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 12 October 2017 13: 30
              +3
              Quote: mar4047083
              Residents of the villains are to blame, improperly exploited.

              Exactly, they stomped a lot when they went))))
              1. mar4047083
                mar4047083 12 October 2017 15: 05
                +3
                Most likely the wallpaper was taken, without agreement with the management company.
    2. Lex.
      Lex. 11 October 2017 09: 57
      0
      What are the qualities?
      What weight does the airplane speed remind you of a crash in Irkutsk?
    3. Monarchist
      Monarchist 11 October 2017 11: 36
      +1
      Dear Mar, I agree with you that a lot of what is happening now has already been given. And about the Voroshilovograd Taran, I honestly forgot what history was there?
      1. mar4047083
        mar4047083 11 October 2017 13: 44
        +3
        Yes, too, as in Novosibirsk. Ace on An-2 just flew into the window of his apartment, only there was a brick house.
    4. Alex_59
      Alex_59 11 October 2017 16: 55
      +4
      Quote: mar4047083
      Pay attention to how high-quality Soviet houses are built, unlike American ones (the consequences of rams are minimal).

      Damn, corn is not even all-metal, he has a partial percale lining. Of course, he cannot destroy Khrushchev by zero. By the way, the strongest and heaviest element of its design - the engine, just completely broke through the wall, while everything else was left outside.
  8. avva2012
    avva2012 11 October 2017 09: 49
    +5
    So, the West tried to imagine the bloody killer-drunk deserters as almost heroes .....

    They can, they have a free unbiased press. And we should study Shpakovsky’s opuses under the title Poisoned Feather. There are eleven of them, and the author does not tire of exposing the deceitful Soviet press. smile
    1. verner1967
      verner1967 11 October 2017 10: 39
      +5
      Quote: avva2012
      the author does not get tired of exposing the lying Soviet press.

      Why lie? The press in the USSR was engaged in propaganda, a common thing, just propaganda is never true. No one. That's why she propaganda
      1. creak
        creak 11 October 2017 12: 54
        +4
        Quote: verner1967
        propaganda is never true. No one. That's why she propaganda

        It was no coincidence that in the USSR they said - there is no news in Pravda, and there is no truth in Izvestia ...
        Lenin believed that the press was not only a collective propagandist and agitator, but also a collective organizer. In this vein, the role of the media in the USSR was considered ...
        1. Aspid 57
          Aspid 57 11 October 2017 18: 30
          +1
          Ah, if only in the USSR !!
      2. BMP-2
        BMP-2 11 October 2017 19: 21
        +2
        Quote: verner1967
        propaganda is never true.

        Well, this generalization seems to me too categorical. Then it turns out that the promotion of a healthy lifestyle is built on lies! laughing

        Propaganda is just bringing certain ideas to the masses. And whether the lie will be used in this case is largely determined by only two factors: 1) by how quickly the result is needed; 2) the skill level of the propagandists.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 12 October 2017 13: 33
          +2
          Quote: BMP-2
          it turns out that the promotion of a healthy lifestyle is built on lies

          Do you think it's true, Churchill, a fat alcoholic with a cigar in his mouth, but how long did he live? But these HLS agitators die like flies)))
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 12 October 2017 20: 00
            0
            I think that being healthy and rich is better than being rich, but sick. yes Churchill somehow failed to combine the first with the second. laughing

            And about the agitators - well, yes, of course: Porfiry Ivanov, Paul Bragg ... where are they to Churchill. wassat
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 12 October 2017 21: 50
              0
              Quote: BMP-2
              where are they to Churchill.

              Well, yes, he survived both, as they did not torture themselves laughing
              1. BMP-2
                BMP-2 13 October 2017 00: 49
                +1
                Winston Churchill - 1874-1965 - 90 years
                Porfiry Ivanov - 1898-1983 - 85 years
                Paul Bragg - 1895-1976 - 81 years old.
                I admit: they did. No one can be trusted. That's it: I'll go drink and smoke disgusting cigars!
                1. verner1967
                  verner1967 13 October 2017 07: 11
                  0
                  Quote: BMP-2
                  That's it: I'll go drink and smoke disgusting cigars!

                  not worth it, you do not have to do anything against your will, you need to live for your pleasure drinks
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 11 October 2017 18: 06
      0
      I will delight you, doctor! I got a book for students: a manual on online journalism, just on the examples of our "conversations" with you. Of course, without links to nicknames, but something is recognizable. So there will be me, others will come. And your business will continue to read and set clicks ...
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 12 October 2017 06: 22
        +3
        Naturally, there have always been and will be people like you. But here, interestingly, you are emotionally reacting to our “conversations”, and therefore, all your undisguised rudeness is only a marker of uncertainty. You understand very well that you just don’t want to think about how you look from the side. Damn Soviet education! Somewhere, inside you remained, that October Revolutionary and pioneer Slava, who looks with horror at today's Shpakovsky. And it’s impossible to come to an agreement with him, right? He doesn’t take money, the infection .... crying
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 12 October 2017 07: 05
          0
          This is just a surprise before there are so many stupid people in this world, that's all! But you raised an interesting topic - childhood. Hints of Freud and all that. It is interesting! Will be - I promise!
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 12 October 2017 09: 09
            +3
            The main thing is that you should be interested. Freud, and not, as you know, he mainly considered the first two stages of development, i.e., until 5 years. Perhaps I am mistaken, therefore, I hope your story will be interesting and informative about the life of the October Revolutionary from the position of classical psychoanalysis. Advance in advance.
  9. Curious
    Curious 11 October 2017 10: 04
    +4
    I think everyone who served in the army can give examples of "runners" at a distance of "until they catch them." Sometimes these "races" ended tragically. The bulk got off with a “lip”, since the command did not like to take dirty linen out of the hut.
    Moreover, they fled not only from the Soviet Army. Run and run from all armies to this day.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 11 October 2017 12: 04
      +5
      You are right "runner" was and will be. I was about 12 years old when such a “runner” appeared in a neighboring village. He wanted to take revenge on his girlfriend, she stopped writing to him and he “pulled” from the unit.
      Everything turned out well: the village was not big and everyone knew that he was in the army, and here he was seen on the street and in civilian clothes. In short, when he came to the field crew to the girl, and the district officer was waiting for him there. That was the time when the local Aniskin could scare the Fuligans and brawlers with his appearance, and now the Aniskins are few and the people are “greyhound”.
      In childhood, it was news for us that: "BF6 is bought in the city to" catch dope ", and now there are so many different things
  10. Vard
    Vard 11 October 2017 10: 51
    10
    My beloved sent a letter ... and so they say, I’m getting married ... and I go to the guard ... I read it, the guys asked me that it wasn’t funny ... well, he answered briefly, without details ... My shift was the first. .. twenty minutes passed ... they flee ... the duty officer on duty ... the guard commander ... and everyone was free ... they took the machine gun, sent him to sleep ... and in the morning to the unit commander ... I told him directly. .. all that is not being done for the better ...
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 11 October 2017 17: 01
      +4
      Quote: Vard
      fleeing ... the duty officer ... the guard commander ...

      The attendant has brains - this is a plus. But the relay in the brain with a lag of twenty minutes is a minus.
      1. faiver
        faiver 12 October 2017 04: 58
        +2
        maybe just the information went
    2. Pissarro
      Pissarro 12 October 2017 00: 32
      +4
      In our unit, there was a ban on mail before entering the guard. All letters after the guard
    3. verner1967
      verner1967 12 October 2017 13: 41
      +2
      Quote: Vard
      My beloved sent a letter ... and so they say, I’ll get married ... and I’m on guard

      And here, one day before the guard, letters were forbidden to be issued at all
  11. Monarchist
    Monarchist 11 October 2017 11: 23
    0
    There is a d / f about this from the cycle "The investigation was conducted" by L. Kanevskgo. I recommend searching in YouTube
  12. Monarchist
    Monarchist 11 October 2017 11: 26
    +3
    Quote: avva2012
    So, the West tried to imagine the bloody killer-drunk deserters as almost heroes .....

    They can, they have a free unbiased press. And we should study Shpakovsky’s opuses under the title Poisoned Feather. There are eleven of them, and the author does not tire of exposing the deceitful Soviet press. smile

    Do not like do not read.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 11 October 2017 15: 47
      +3
      Sorry, forgot to consult hi
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 11 October 2017 18: 12
        +3
        And I do not like about online journalism - it’s not necessary for a clearly qualified doctor, it’s even funny, there is another one. Also just came out. With beautiful pictures ... Suddenly interested?
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 12 October 2017 05: 49
          +1
          Thanks, pictures, I like to consider smile
  13. tuts
    tuts 12 October 2017 05: 02
    +1
    thanks for the article did not know
  14. Doliva63
    Doliva63 12 October 2017 19: 06
    +4
    Ilya Polonsky - D.rak, if he wrote it himself.
  15. Doliva63
    Doliva63 12 October 2017 19: 24
    +5
    In VV, they did not call for normal, in my opinion. Judging by classmates. Call 80-81. What can we say about the 60s.