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In Ukraine, crashed military aircraft

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Information Service UNIAN With reference to a representative of the Khmelnitsky Regional State Administration of Ukraine, reports on the fall of the Ukrainian military aircraft. According to the latest data, the plane crashed about twenty kilometers from the city of Khmelnitsky.


In Ukraine, crashed military aircraft


Local authorities report that the L-39 (Albatros) combat training aircraft has fallen. He flew into the air from the airfield of the military unit located in the settlement of Starokonstantinovo, Khmelnitsky region.

About the fate of the crew data for some time was not. It is reported that rescue teams, as well as representatives of the main military department of Ukraine, left for the crash site.

About an hour after the crash, the headquarters of the Air Force of Ukraine in social networks reports that both pilots were killed.

Press Service of the Air Force of Ukraine:
The commission of command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine left for the scene to clarify the circumstances; investigative and operational actions are being conducted. The reasons aviation disasters are emerging.
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  1. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 29 September 2017 14: 11
    +2
    Well. Unfortunately this happens.
    1. figwam
      figwam 29 September 2017 14: 18
      +15
      Quote: Corsair0304
      Well. Unfortunately this happens.

      There is a double feeling, on the one hand, it’s a pity, the training plane, and probably with an experienced instructor there was also a young cadet, and on the other hand, the army of the outskirts is mentally prepared to kill us.
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 29 September 2017 22: 24
        +1
        Quote: figvam
        probably with an experienced instructor

        There are no already experienced instructors there ... Maybe one out of a hundred. All experienced went away in the mid-nineties, and who remained - already quit by age.
    2. Finches
      Finches 29 September 2017 14: 31
      +8
      Somehow this news leaves me completely indifferent ... It seems to me that the resource has already been worked out, and there is no money for proper maintenance, so they are falling with enviable regularity! In September, there were only 3 aircraft, albeit two others not from the APU ... However, these are exclusively the problems of the strongest army in the Universe and the most prosperous power on Earth.
    3. Maz
      Maz 29 September 2017 14: 46
      +6
      Strange sho Toko alone. I was traveling from Kiev and watched a flight for a moment29 they abnormally flew over the fields at an altitude of not more than 45 meters. Or maybe less. Parallel to the track for cars. For hell, so risk yourself and the machine, she also two pairs. The humor of the situation is that they flew over the new cemetery for those who were brought in wooden macs
      1. Msta
        Msta 29 September 2017 15: 03
        +3
        Flights at low altitudes are practiced to break through enemy air defense systems, so this makes sense.
        1. Lucy
          Lucy 30 September 2017 21: 21
          +1
          Training flights at extremely low altitudes (less than 200 m.) Are made along the routes for flights at these altitudes defined in the IFP.
          What is the air defense breakthrough on the MiG-29?
          Aviation is not the use of RSL, OGAS, GAS, APR ... for search, tracking ..... PL. wink
    4. fa2998
      fa2998 29 September 2017 15: 11
      +3
      In principle, everything that is correct - 30-40 year old L-39s, produced in a non-existing Czechoslovakia should fall, the resource is exhausted. Better explain why the newest Yak-130s fall. request hi
      1. RL
        RL 29 September 2017 17: 26
        +1
        Must fall ?! Listen, wonder, why such aerobatic teams as Baltic Bees Jet Team (flew and showed the wonders of aerobatics at MAKS 2017) and the Breitling Jet Team fly on old Czechoslovak L-39s? Yes, because there is nothing better for these purposes. This is not the Yak-130 that crashes. Even Italians, Chinese and South Koreans can do better than Russia - Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master, Hongdu L-15 Lie Ying, T-50 Golden Eagle (골든 이글)
        1. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 29 September 2017 19: 07
          +5
          Quote: RL
          This is not for you Yak-130, which falls

          re-read the article a miracle. then your old woman fell. or completely waist-high wooden?
        2. Filxnumx
          Filxnumx 29 September 2017 21: 42
          +1
          And do not tell me, dear connoisseur of ostentatious technique, why the Kamaz-master team at the Paris-Dakar races does not perform at serial products of the car factory in Naberezhnye Chelly? The Baltic bees from L-39 only have a glider, since they definitely do not use the AI-25 or AI-225 Ukrainian engines
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 30 September 2017 08: 02
            0
            Quote: Fil743
            And do not tell me, dear connoisseur of ostentatious technique, why the Kamaz-master team at the Paris-Dakar races does not perform at serial products of the car factory in Naberezhnye Chelly?

            And whose team in these races uses cars taken from the assembly line?
        3. Msta
          Msta 29 September 2017 21: 50
          +2
          You do not confuse warm with sour. Today they fly not L-39, but L-39MS, they are L-59. These are newer aircraft.
      2. Lucy
        Lucy 30 September 2017 21: 23
        +1
        Not wrong
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 29 September 2017 14: 11
    +7
    Accidentally, the Russian drone is not seen there?
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 29 September 2017 21: 36
      +1
      Quote: Sith Lord
      Accidentally, the Russian drone is not seen there?

      And of course the operator of this drone was ....!
  3. HAM
    HAM 29 September 2017 14: 16
    +1
    Explicitly one of the recently "modernized" in combat.
  4. MARIO1970
    MARIO1970 29 September 2017 14: 16
    +2
    SHO? AGAIN PUTIN ??????
    1. Alekseits
      Alekseits 29 September 2017 14: 54
      +1
      And who else is capable of this? lol
  5. pvv113
    pvv113 29 September 2017 14: 24
    +15
    reports the fall of the Ukrainian military aircraft

    Today I read the comments on the video about the roll-out of the Tu-22M3 bomber from the runway in Shaikovka. The crew remained alive, the aircraft is to be restored. But how much bile and rot in the comments of the Europeans! So for the fall of the Ukrainian plane I have no regrets
    1. region58
      region58 29 September 2017 14: 32
      +2
      Quote: pvv113
      But how much bile and rot in the comments of the Europeans!

      But should they be like? Similarly:
      ... The experience of history says that the Hitlers come and go, but the German people, and the German state remains.
      People's Commissar of Defense I. Stalin
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 29 September 2017 14: 37
        +7
        I’m not going to be like them, but no sympathy
        1. region58
          region58 29 September 2017 18: 00
          +1
          Quote: pvv113
          I'm not going to be like them

          I'm not specifically about you (you justified your opinion), I'm talking about the general trend. There is a lot of bile from our side.
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 29 September 2017 18: 52
            +2
            I do not argue, the Anglo-Saxons achieved their goal by sowing enmity between fraternal peoples. Now it’s not known how many years will pass until this enmity disappears
      2. just exp
        just exp 29 September 2017 14: 49
        +4
        Yes, only horses that were Judas will remain.
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 29 September 2017 21: 39
          0
          Quote: just explo
          Yes, only horses that were Judas will remain.

          Judah - it is mildly said!
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 29 September 2017 14: 38
    +4
    Aircraft training, respectively, "gouged" by many generations of cadets!
    For all the simplicity and durability of specialized equipment, they don’t live that much.
    Let's say for many years I was idle ... anyway, the strength of the glider and the reliability of the main components ... are beyond the limits of wise use. collapsed himself!
    The question is how to learn to fly such ... cadets do not mind?
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 30 September 2017 17: 47
      +2
      Rocket757, we are taught the same. In general, the L-39 IS AN EQUIPMENT !!!
    2. Lucy
      Lucy 30 September 2017 21: 29
      +1
      So there was a broken-down conclusion of the chairman of the commission.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 September 2017 23: 05
        +4
        We are taught at the "corn farmers" ... and then with a tractor from the cliff they pick out everything that remains
        Training equipment is subjected to awkward tests in the hands of "future pilots" ... you would have listened to the statements of a garage neighbor, aircraft technician, from this training center !!!
        This is his expression, "so many do not live."
        And for the value, vitality and the NEED of educational equipment I have no doubt MORE.
        Moreover, living for many years near the training of flyers, you involuntarily know about all flight accidents.
        By the way, as far as I can remember, Elka flew, i.e. the plane is old ... I’m generally silent about the maize.
  7. Lester7777
    Lester7777 29 September 2017 14: 58
    +2
    Well done pilots. One missiles saved.
  8. Msta
    Msta 29 September 2017 15: 00
    +3
    Good news. Two less Bandera.
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 29 September 2017 19: 40
      +2
      Quote: Msta
      Good news. Two less Bandera.

      You yourself spin the flywheel of hatred. Ukrainian reserve officers, those who do not support this power, also read VO. And they draw conclusions not in your favor.
      1. Msta
        Msta 29 September 2017 21: 53
        +4
        And there is nothing to untwist, everyone has already untwisted. From the 1994 of the year, Ukraine fought against Russia in the Caucasus, under the banners of Dudayev, then under the banners of Saakashvili, then burned the Russians alive in Odessa and staged the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbas ... And now forgive everything ?! You won’t wait from me!
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 29 September 2017 22: 50
          +3
          Quote: Msta
          And there is nothing to untwist, everyone has already untwisted. From the 1994 of the year, Ukraine fought against Russia in the Caucasus, under the banners of Dudayev, then under the banners of Saakashvili, then burned the Russians alive in Odessa and staged the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbas ... And now forgive everything ?! You won’t wait from me!

          I do not need your forgiveness. Fought in Chechnya several dozen frostbitten. There, the Russians were on the side of Dudaev. And what you are doing is now inciting hatred, adding fuel to the fire.
          1. Msta
            Msta 30 September 2017 15: 08
            0
            Mr. Volodimir Smirnenko, your Ukraine fought against Chechnya in Russia, and not a bunch of bandits. If Ukraine didn’t support them, it would give them to Russia, but it didn’t, showing its true face and did not punish them on its territory ... You go to your countrymen to ask why they staged the genocide of Russians in the Donbass, by the way I’m there was and still will go ... The fewer people like you, the better.
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 29 September 2017 21: 58
        +4
        Quote: Normal ok
        Ukrainian reserve officers, those who do not support this power, also read VO. And they draw conclusions not in your favor.

        But don’t speak for Ukrainian reserve officers! If normal, then agree with "two Bandera less." And if Bandera themselves, then .... on them.
    2. Lucy
      Lucy 30 September 2017 21: 34
      +1
      Why is there so much bile?
  9. Eastern wind
    Eastern wind 29 September 2017 15: 35
    +5
    Gloating is bad, expressing regret is stupid. Better to be bad than stupid, IMHO.
  10. midshipman
    midshipman 29 September 2017 16: 14
    +4
    The more often, the better. Watch footage as the Ukrainians bombed the territory of the People's Republics. These are fascists. Only Ukrainians and the United States bomb civilians these days. I have the honor.
  11. Catherine II
    Catherine II 29 September 2017 16: 47
    +4
    Elks often drive. Almost every day they are visible.
    The accident occurred during a planned training flight. The causes of the disaster have not yet been established.
    The fate of the instructor and cadet according to preliminary information is sad.
    Condolences (if the saddest thing is confirmed) to relatives and friends, despite all the charms of the information war.
    1. Des10
      Des10 29 September 2017 17: 29
      +1
      yes, sadness.
      Especially against the background of "articles" of VO about LDNR.
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok 29 September 2017 19: 41
      +1
      The cadet, along the way, broke firewood. The instructor tried to correct the situation to the last.
      1. Conrad
        Conrad 30 September 2017 15: 51
        0
        In fact, not cadets fly in the shelves on the "Elks", but full-time pilots support flight skills to save the resource of combat aircraft. So most likely there were both pilots - officers.
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 30 September 2017 17: 53
          +2
          Which shelves? Specifically, in the Russian Air Force, the L-39 are only in service with training regiments, and partly in special units — the Pulp and Paper Center and the PLC, the cosmonaut detachment of the testers, and the main purpose of the L39 is to train cadets, which you wrote about is of secondary importance. Although ..... Maybe the Ukrainian Air Force is different .....
        2. Lucy
          Lucy 30 September 2017 21: 40
          +1
          The article does not correctly spell the people. airfield point.
  12. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 29 September 2017 21: 30
    0
    If the press service of the Air Force reports the incident as an air disaster, then there are dead. A casualty accident is called an aircraft incident, AI (without damaging the aircraft), Serious AI (AIS) or SAIP (Serious AI with aircraft damage)
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 29 September 2017 22: 32
      0
      Quote: Fil743
      A casualty accident is called an accident.

      During my service, it was called an accident, but the degree of equipment failure is already secondary, the main thing is that people are safe
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 30 September 2017 08: 12
        0
        Quote: helmi8
        Quote: Fil743
        A casualty accident is called an accident.

        During my service, it was called an accident, but the degree of equipment failure is already secondary, the main thing is that people are safe

        And that without consequences was called a prerequisite for a summer accident.
  13. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 29 September 2017 21: 55
    0
    guess three times, who is to blame?
  14. eleronn
    eleronn 29 September 2017 22: 15
    0
    Yes, and to hell with it! Why should this be interesting? Cause an explosion of farts? I assure you - this is superfluous.
  15. 72jora72
    72jora72 30 September 2017 03: 16
    +1
    Quote: RL
    Must fall ?! Listen, wonder, why such aerobatic teams as Baltic Bees Jet Team (flew and showed the wonders of aerobatics at MAKS 2017) and the Breitling Jet Team fly on old Czechoslovak L-39s? Yes, because there is nothing better for these purposes. This is not the Yak-130 that crashes. Even Italians, Chinese and South Koreans can do better than Russia - Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master, Hongdu L-15 Lie Ying, T-50 Golden Eagle (골든 이글)

    Hear an expert, you do not compare warm with soft, Yak-130 is a machine on which you can emit almost any aircraft in various operating modes. And the L-39 is simply not a bad training aircraft ...
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 30 September 2017 03: 48
      +1
      The Czech aircraft has long served its veteran, especially in Ukraine, because most likely it fell from decay ... probably the same age as the fire alarm of warehouses in 1987 ... was good, but nothing lasts forever. Yak - an excellent combat training aircraft ... but still damp. As a result - four emergency situations, fortunately without casualties. Apparently, there is an excellent ejection system.
    2. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 30 September 2017 17: 58
      +3
      An 26 can also be Issued? Write what you know, but don’t carry nonsense, and if you don’t know anything, then better not write anything
  16. LeonidL
    LeonidL 30 September 2017 03: 45
    +1
    Self-service continues ... however, we are waiting for a message that this is the Kremlin’s machinations and the plane was shot down by a rocket ... "S-400"!
  17. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 30 September 2017 12: 03
    0
    A trifle, but nice. Classic right: Born to crawl, cannot fly.
  18. Lucy
    Lucy 30 September 2017 21: 37
    +1
    Quote: midshipman
    The more often, the better. Watch footage as the Ukrainians bombed the territory of the People's Republics. These are fascists. Only Ukrainians and the United States bomb civilians these days. I have the honor.


    With honor, take a look.
  19. Lucy
    Lucy 30 September 2017 21: 46
    +1
    Quote: helmi8
    Quote: Fil743
    A casualty accident is called an accident.

    During my service, it was called an accident, but the degree of equipment failure is already secondary, the main thing is that people are safe

    At all times, without the death of the crew, or with the death but after (I do not remember exactly) 3 days, - a flight accident.
    Next is the background to summer. incident.
    Incidents are categorized. Communication failure can be pulled to the incident.
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 1 October 2017 04: 49
      +2
      Not quite right. Above, the comrade already wrote:
      - accident accident catastrophe
      - accident without casualties accident
      - further, depending on the complexity of the failure of the equipment and systems of the aircraft, as well as the degree of damage, they are distinguished: AIS (serious aviation incident with damage), AIS (serious aviation incident) and the most "simple" AI. Any incident, by the way, is to some extent a prerequisite, since there is a failure of something and illiterate actions can lead to tragedy.
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  20. Lucy
    Lucy 2 October 2017 00: 18
    +1
    Quote: Rushnairfors
    Not quite right


    You are right.
    Not at all right.
    Time flies fast.