US media: Our aces to pieces will smash the old Soviet aircraft Kim

Western edition Foreign Policy comments on Pyongyang’s statements about the DPRK’s readiness to shoot down US military aircraft in international airspace. The publication says that Kim Jong-un "clearly overestimates the possibilities of North Korean military equipment."

From FP material:

Pyongyang will not succeed in realizing its empty threats. Kim has only outdated Soviet weapons.

At the same time, David Maxwell, a retired US soldier previously serving in South Korea, is quoted as saying:

As for me, I highly doubt that some of their aircraft will be able to carry on with our fighters. If their planes will attack ours, then our aces will do their work.

For some reason, Western media and the military, doing fortune-telling on the grounds of the coffee grounds, are considering the possibility of North Korean attacks solely with the help of airplanes. In this case, the fact that the DPRK has a missile weapons and air defense systems, the characteristics of which still do not have accurate data. Therefore, the American aces in any case will not feel safe if they receive an order to attack the DPRK. This is reported by the North Korean political leadership, recalling that the United States actually declared war on the republic. In addition, the DPRK's main trump card is overlooked - the presence of weapons capable of delivering a nuclear charge to American territory.

Comments

[himRa]

Militant dances before the hunt!? How funny

[krops777]

Militant dances before the hunt!? How funny

And what else can the Yankees besides dancing with a tambourine , sanctions do not apply, non-nuclear countries are already slaughtering the United States, to say nothing of nuclear ones.

[dik-nsk]

And what's funny? it’s quite possible to arrange a nuclear mess under our side, Eun can’t farther than the Japanese from his slingshots, the mattresses do not risk anything, and they don’t give a damn about them ..

non-nuclear countries are already slaughtered in the USA

this is the nuance, the defeat of Una completely correct the reputation and intimidate the creators

[himRa]

Quote: dik-nsk

And what's funny? to arrange a nuclear mess under our side mattresses is quite capable

Oh? China + Russia + DPRK
All these countries unacceptable force decisions and spoke out clearly ...
loshara trump has already lost! anyway!

[dik-nsk]

oh .. China + Russia will not fit into a direct war - 200%

loshara trump has already lost!

loshara he or not will show the time while he is doing everything to restore the shaken greatness of mattress, I really hope that the horns will break off, but so far I see no reason for this

[cniza]

Be that as it may, but we see that the world is on the verge of a catastrophe and we observe the brilliant bluff of the United States, to pull its military infrastructures to the borders of Russia and China.

[dik-nsk]

but here I completely agree, that’s why we don’t fit for Korea, according to the good old Russian tradition - we will wait until they come to us, we are not aggressors

[Vanek]

Quote: cniza

the world is on the verge of disaster

My heart feels. We are on the verge of a grandiose raucer. *

[Yuyuka]

Quote: cniza

Be that as it may, but we see that the world is on the verge of a catastrophe and we observe the brilliant bluff of the United States, to pull its military infrastructures to the borders of Russia and China.

this is the main goal - "strangulation of the anaconda." They do not care much for the DPRK - they are not going to fight with her, what's the point ?? in any war there is a goal - somehow the conquest of territory, resources, the elimination of a competitor - political or economic. In this case, none of the above is suitable for the Americans! They love money too much to waste. So, there must be a strategic goal. And here are two options - Russia or China. Well, China is still economically tied to them, and does not make any sharp movements in politics. But Russia ... It's such a bone in the throat! moreover, it has a strange property - it becomes more and more across.

[himRa]

Quote: dik-nsk

Russia will not fit into direct war - 200%

Why did you decide this? How do you know which missile (USA) has a flight mission?
They will shoot down, and not only we but the Chinese .....
Not long-standing joint exercises (RF, PRC) talk about this more than ...
And ... Eun knows about it, then EUN will have access to satellites and intelligence information ... or already have it!

[Berkut752]

Quote: dik-nsk

oh .. China + Russia will not fit into a direct war - 200%

loshara trump has already lost!

loshara he or not will show the time while he is doing everything to restore the shaken greatness of mattress, I really hope that the horns will break off, but so far I see no reason for this

Well, yes, yes, I read your comment and remembered that the mattresses had fitted the squadron to ter. waters of the DPRK and ........., further as in the joke:
A man gathered for winter fishing
He got into the car, but the engine does not start.
He spat and returned to the house, undressed and lay down under the barrel to his wife.
“She tells him, why is it so cold?”
- He's back.
- So on the street -30.
“She, and my fool went fishing.”

[zhekazs]

Quote: dik-nsk

oh .. China + Russia will not fit into a direct war - 200%

In the 56th, they also did not fit directly, but the striped tail was pressed by the noble

[Mar.Tirah]

I would add that the DPRK is not Panama, which is located near the United States, in a geographical position. The DPRK is covered in the north, west, and east by the borders of Russia and China. And several months ago, powerful anti-aircraft defense systems are pulled to the borders, which will be detected in advance US invasion, and will not stand on ceremony with them.

[Vadim237]

These air defenses will bring down everything that flies across the border of Russia and China.

[210ox]

Here I doubt the Russia + China plan. The veto plan. But ours can easily turn Kim in, because they consider him too big a headache. The latest actions of our diplomacy (softening rhetoric, discussions about peacekeepers in the Donbass) show the absence of a targeted policy to weaken the influence of the Yankees. We must not justify ourselves or Taldych say that it’s not us, such as in Syria and LDNR, but to speak specifically and harshly. Only this way we will ensure peace, because there are no fools and no one will communicate directly.

Quote: himRa

Quote: dik-nsk

And what's funny? to arrange a nuclear mess under our side mattresses is quite capable

Oh? China + Russia + DPRK
All these countries unacceptable force decisions and spoke out clearly ...
loshara trump has already lost! anyway!

[raw174]

Quote: dik-nsk

mattresses do not risk anything

Well, what about? And the southern brethren on the peninsula? There is also an American base, which is under attack from missiles and barrel artillery, and in Japan there are a lot of Americans ... But more important are the economic consequences, economic ties and business in South Korea and Japan! Americans are fighting for resources, and what will they take from the peninsula? NOTHING! There is no sense in this war, the risks are too great, not justified by the big ones ... But what if Kim’s missile reaches the mainland of the USA? This cannot be ruled out.

[K-612-O]

But the Yankees can remove Korea and Japan from the market in this way, and there the gesheft shines fabulous, from the destruction of such competitors.

[dik-nsk]

absolutely right noticed! and spit on their brothers, business - nothing personal

raw174 And what if Kim’s missile reaches the mainland of the USA? This cannot be ruled out.

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[himRa]

Quote: dik-nsk

excluded

And dozens of ,, kamikaze, "on submarines with hydrogen and other nuclear weapons, are also excluded?

[dik-nsk]

your right to believe in Eun’s tales, some in Harry Potter believe or Santa Claus .. usually passes with age, but not at all

[himRa]

Quote: dik-nsk

your right to believe in Eun’s tales,

I will not quote diplomatically and respond to the rest of the phrase ...
PL DPRK is not a fairy tale! Real power ...
Possessing a nuclear weapon is also not a fairy tale ...
Change points. I think this is the problem you saw that which is not ...
And finally: for the concentration of forces in the Iraqi company, the United States took 2 months ... note

[dik-nsk]

I will answer with your own phrase:

Change points. I think this is the problem you saw that which is not ..

well, yes, okay, the debate is about nothing, we are both based on our subjective opinion - neither you nor I have evidence of the greatness / absence of the Yunovsky weapon or the "inclusion" of Russia and China over Korea in a direct conflict, as you say (and then it turns out that we attacked, because Trump will not trample on our countries - a no brainer), no, each with his own

[vlad.svargin]

himRa
And dozens of ,, kamikaze, "on submarines with hydrogen and other nuclear weapons, are also excluded?

You too simplify the situation of the DPRK:

The first confirmed successful launch of the satellite on December 12, 2012 made the country (DPRK) the 10th space power capable of launching satellites (AES) with its own launch vehicles, ahead of South Korea.

[75 hammer]

In fact, if a rocket reaches its first cosmic velocity, that is, it reaches near-earth orbit, then the distance that it can cover is measured in the number of turns around the earth, and not in thousands of kilometers. And a person has rockets, rockets of the type of our R-7, that is, with the possibility of entering orbit! And it will reach the SGA or not, the lottery is still there!

[igorj 51]

And it will reach the SGA or not, the lottery is still there!

I don’t know how it is with the lottery, but in California they are seriously preparing for a nuclear strike from the DPRK:
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/2
01709261524-ypck.htm

The authorities of the US state of California have developed a plan of action in the event of a "catastrophic" nuclear strike by the DPRK. It is reported by The Daily Express, citing an unnamed source.

According to the tabloid, the US Department of Homeland Security, together with the Los Angeles authorities, issued a secret 16-page document called Nuclear Attack Response Considerations.

“The consequences of a nuclear attack in Southern California will be disastrous. Nevertheless, it is expected that government bodies will continue to function to preserve people's lives, maintain order and provide assistance in the recovery process, ”the publication quotes an excerpt from the document.

The text also provides recommendations on how to behave in the event of a nuclear strike. In particular, it is noted that victims will have to wait for help within 72 hours, and those who are directly next to the epicenter of the explosion are invited to "lie face down and put their hands under the body to protect exposed skin."

[Yuyuka]

I don’t know how it is with the lottery, but in California they are seriously preparing for a nuclear strike from the DPRK:

Yes, they had there these shows with bunkers, preparations for the past 70 years, there were so many! One more, one less. They are purely like small children - they will be shown advertising, they believe! The manipulation of consciousness there is at the highest level unlike us do not care a joke of course ... but according to a survey recently conducted there, I’m not sure for sure, but something 70 percent recognized the possibility of a nuclear strike against Russia as the main threat to them. You will see enough of Hollywood, then the roof goes ... the country of frightened idiots, damn it! accustomed to fighting far from home and on computers!

[igorj 51]

Yes, they had there these shows with bunkers, preparations for the past 70 years, there were so many!

It's all nonsense. The whole joke is that little North Korea still made the Americans hide in bunkers .. As the USSR used to be. Second in the world by the way after the Soviet Union ..

but according to a recent survey there, I’m not sure for sure, but something 70 percent recognized the possibility of a nuclear strike against Russia as the main threat to them.

I don’t know how it is about the survey on the possibility of a nuclear strike against Russia, but just the other day a poll was conducted there on the topic of a preventive strike on the DPRK. and so, too, somewhere around 72% of Americans opposed it.

[igorj 51]

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And who ruled it out .. Are you ..?

[raw174]

Quote: dik-nsk

excluded

From what? Purely physically fly? Quite right now they are throwing quite far, and the potential is not reliably known. Missile defense? And its effectiveness in combat conditions is not known, there is not a single missile shot down, by air defense!

[zhekazs]

Quote: dik-nsk

excluded

As an assumption:
China trains Eun pilots on its territory. Ruled out?
China will deliver its planes to Eun, or has already delivered, but they are with the flight crew and those in China for the time being. Ruled out?
China is training Eun-Air Defense at home. Ruled out?
Well, Russia is able to throw something, the same air defense systems (otherwise in Syria you’ll somehow not really test them yet). Ruled out?

[raw174]

Quote: K-612-O

But the Yankees can thus remove Korea and Japan from the market

American business is closely tied to these Asians, like the world economy as a whole, if these key players are removed, it is not clear how the world economy will be feverish and how it will come to fruition of the mattresses themselves ... The risk is not justified.

[raw174]

I apologize for the lack of enlightenment, and what is

Quote: K-612-O

gesheft

I understand the bonuses, benefit? what is the term?

[dzvero]

Gesheft for amers is not in the demolition of production, but in the transfer of capital to their homes. Although, of course, the recreation of their high-tech will be a nice bonus.

[Scoun]

Quote: raw174

But what if Kim’s rocket reaches the mainland of the USA? This cannot be ruled out.

And if something "accidentally" falls in China (the industrial zone), in South Korea and in Japan?

Quote: K-612-O

But the Yankees can thus remove Korea and Japan from the market

And then the Yankees then hang their DEBT on them and even remove the tribute from the Europeans.

[Sergey Valentinovich]

The point is not only that the DPRK has nuclear weapons, and there is certainly a way to deliver it to the United States not only with the help of missiles. The fact is that in order for the US operation to be successful, it will be necessary to take complete control of the territory of the DPRK , which is purely physically more than problematic. Since the time of the truce, the DPRK was preparing for such a war. The people of the DPRK will fight to the last and then this operation can drag on for many years and will most likely end in the shameful flight of the United States. It is impossible to completely destroy the territory adjacent to China and Russia - this will mean the 3rd world one. And even if this does not happen, the US reputation as a democratic superpower will be completely destroyed - after all, the UN will never agree to a nuclear war with the DPRK. even Afghanistan has not been able to cope with for many years, and there the conditions of warfare are much simpler and there are no nuclear weapons. So the stupid person trump himself into a trap. He only pumps it up, only if he does not do what he promises - that means he’s just a nonsense, and so he will be subsequently perceived all over the world. And if he does, the consequences for the United States will most likely be catastrophic. Well, for example, what prevents the Koreans from delivering nuclear weapons closer to the United States in advance, for example, on ordinary ships, boats or submarines? But what would it be like if several hydrogen bombs explode in their coastal waters? Yes, even with cobalt filler

[raw174]

Quote: Sergey Valentinovich

So the stupid man trump himself is being trapped.

Apparently it’s not only Trump’s business, our president is practically a functional monarch, and the Duma is his advisers, and in the United States the president has less influence, less power.
In general, I completely agree with you!

[igorj 51]

.USA, even with Afghanistan for many years can not cope, and there the conditions of war are much simpler and there is no nuclear weapons.

As for the conditions of war .. Afghanistan is a mountainous country, DPRK too, 80-85% of the territory of the DPRK are mountains, though not as big as in Afghanistan but nonetheless .. Plus nuclear weapons ..

[Plombir]

The Yankees can do a lot of things: beckoning, lying, betraying, double-dealing, juggling and trifling in your pockets. Gentlemen, their mother’s mother.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: himRa

how funny

Funny little! If they are tied, the living will envy the dead!

[himRa]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Funny little! If they are tied, the living will envy the dead!

I already envy the dead father!
He was already exhausted; I'm still tormented (55 years)
He left beautifully and quickly. It’s not known how I will leave. Most likely it’s hard to get sick ...
So do not frighten the staff, dear, some think that hell is on earth and there is no paradise at all
What do you have from the arguments? Can Wi psychic be able to predict the future? Then go to Syria for mine clearance is a real help to people ... something that nobody wants !! balabol

[Uncle lee]

Quote: himRa

So do not frighten the staff, dear, some think that hell is on earth and there is no paradise at all
What do you have from the arguments? Can Wi psychic be able to predict the future? Then go to Syria for mine clearance is a real help to people ... something that nobody wants !! balabol

Did you understand what you wrote?

[himRa]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Did you understand what you wrote?

Well, this is VI You doubt that jumping and howling mattresses is not funny ...
I perfectly understood and clearly explained ... like ..
Eunu has nothing to lose, whereas Trump is already lost his image and he will not restore it in any way even if he attacks and defeats Korea ... dances of aircraft carriers are an example

[Uncle lee]

Quote: himRa

even if he attacks and defeats Korea.

I don’t care about his image, but I really don't like the atomic mess near my residence.

[himRa]

Quote from Uncle Lee

I’m his image to the bulb,

I believe ..

Quote from Uncle Lee

atomic bombing near my residence I really do not like.

There will be no, mess, don’t worry, and ....
If you do not have the opportunity to change the circumstance, change your attitude to it, you will be healthier!

[Uncle lee]

Thank you, reassured ... I will sleep peacefully ..... With an ax under the pillow!

[himRa]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Thank you, reassured ... I will sleep peacefully .....

Always please come to us ..... on ..... on! voooot

With an ax under the pillow!

What a koshshshmaar!
can not understand correctly !!! divorced understand ... cannibals
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[Per se]

I agree, a little funny. And I agree with the Americans, in the sky, the DPRK is not their enemy.

[Herculesic]

Rahim as they say, all this is ridiculous, if it weren’t so sad, the United States would obviously wind itself up to bomb North Korea, or even start a full-blown invasion there!

[Finches]

Thousands of your 150 Asses and other Rambos have already rotted in the land of Korea, so Eun quite justifiably says: "We are asking for mercy, Yankees!"

[79807420129]

Quote: Finches

Thousands of your 150 Asses and other Rambos have already rotted in the land of Korea, so Eun quite justifiably says: "We are asking for mercy, Yankees!"

Eugene It's a bit more complicated here Then China sent a million "volunteers" directly helped the USSR And now this is unlikely to happen, But I think that the mattresses will not go into a direct collision with us or with China, but we will also sit on the coast of China. IMHO of course, this is just my opinion. And what is upstairs thought.

[Finches]

I’m more to the fact that the Americans and the peoples there are not very historically developing ... What is in Korea, what is in Vietnam! Paphos is too much ...

[79807420129]

Quote: Finches

I’m more to the fact that the Americans and the peoples there are not very historically developing ... What is in Korea, what is in Vietnam! Paphos is too much ...

God grant that would not work out now.

[Finches]

God forbid! But they noticed that Trump allowed himself to go out of the ordinary! For the first time from the UN rostrum, an organization that was created to maintain peace and stability, not some sort of Gopil from Harlem, and the President publicly declares that he will erase the whole country! That is, from a baby to a deep old man, from a simple washerwoman to a general ... Only Adolf allowed himself to do this, and even then, when he went into orgasm ... ecstasy entered! However, this is not funny!

[igorj 51]

I’m more to the fact that the Americans and the peoples there are not very historically developing ... What is in Korea, what is in Vietnam! Paphos is too much ...

It's not just about pathos. Just the people there are very peculiar ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: himRa

Militant dances before the hunt!? How funny

Well, at least something Americans learned from the Indians ... By the way, no one is going to answer for the genocide of the Indians?

[himRa]

Quote: Zoldat_A

By the way, no one is going to answer for the genocide of the Indians?

direct killings paid by the federal government (scalps)
Threw up infected (plague, smallpox) clothes and sleeping ...
Elementary alcohol drinking ...
and finally, as in the best English (fascist) concentration camp traditions
(reservations) which Indians could not leave!
This is so democratic!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: himRa

Quote: Zoldat_A

By the way, no one is going to answer for the genocide of the Indians?

direct killings paid by the federal government (scalps)
Threw up infected (plague, smallpox) clothes and sleeping ...
Elementary alcohol drinking ...
and finally, as in the best English (fascist) concentration camp traditions
(reservations) which Indians could not leave!
This is so democratic!

Democracy forever !!!!!!!

[the villain]

Quote: himRa

direct killings paid by the federal government (scalps)
Threw up infected (plague, smallpox) clothes and sleeping ...
Elementary alcohol drinking ...
and finally, as in the best English (fascist) concentration camp traditions
(reservations) which Indians could not leave!
This is so democratic!

If the p-sam presents Indians for wangooi genocide, they will declare that ... "It's not us, it's Indians ourselves" and on the list: soldered, scalped, infected. And the kindly arrogant Saxons, having seen this outrage, built comfortable reservations in order to preserve at least how many Indians. Doubt it?

[himRa]

Gee .... knowing bitten by ukrami merikatos not at all !!

[Alexander 3]

Yes, what for NATO are human lives, what are Korean, what is their loss of their citizens in their words.

[alexleony]

Where did the USA get aces from? Where and when did they shoot down at least 5 enemy aircraft?

[aszzz888]

alexleony Today, 06:59 AM New
Where did the USA get aces from? Where and when did they shoot down at least 5 enemy aircraft?

... and the Vietnamese jungle, and palm shacks with "orange" and napalm to water?!?! ... and you say no aces! ...

[Thrall]

Quote: alexleony

Where did the USA get aces from? Where and when did they shoot down at least 5 enemy aircraft?

Of the potential opponents of the videoconferencing in combat training, American pilots, I think, are in second place after the Israeli.

[freddyk]

These aces with popcorn are sitting in front of the telecom, at best :-) :-)

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: freddyk

These aces with popcorn sitting in front of the TV set, at best :-) :-)

What an amazing coincidence - ass in American - an ass .... And imano such an opinion about them, our flyers. At least those with whom I had to communicate ...

[Sauron80]

Now there will be no dogfights, not World War II. The number of planes and the number of missiles that they can launch, and the actual distance from which they can do it, are driving. Compare the number of aircraft in the us and at our leisure.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sauron80

Compare the number of aircraft in the us and on our leisure

As one crest said: "Enough."

[Observer2014]

alexleony

Where did the USA get aces from? Where and when did they shoot down at least 5 enemy aircraft?

What are you saying? Ah, the documentary (with Tom Cruise) Top Gun!

[novel66]

how long have we lost there instant-28 - not a single one is left

[Ren]

Quote: novel xnumx

how long have we lost there instant-28 - not a single one is left

RZHUNIMAGU !!!

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: freddyk

These aces with popcorn are sitting in front of the telecom, at best :-) :-)

Well, at least they have “televisions”, but the video from the North Korean exercises surprised me one:
There, Eun sat on a highchair and watched the teachings of how their aircraft hit the ground. An An-2 hung with missiles was used as a ground attack aircraft. the trash absolutely does not reach the modern level. Therefore, the hope of a nuclear bomb that will cool any hot head is a slippery and dangerous path for everyone, because it can easily turn out to be the only way to stop an enemy who is not under the guns and machine guns of their bombs with chest will trample, and first of all it will begin to knock out the North Korean army remotely --- they have been stuffing this hand since Yugoslavia and I would not have underestimated them in this matter.

[just exp]

they have not only the Air Force, they have the whole army old. more or less new tanks, they have their own T-72 level model, but it is significantly inferior to Western and South Korean in terms of the LMS.
on air defense they recently released a new for them air defense system something like the old S-300, it will complicate the life of mattresses with mattresses, but not much. crush relatively quickly, and the rest they have old rubbish.
Well, with high-precision ammunition, they also have trouble.
in general, now without nuclear weapons they are not competitors even to South Korea, not like mattresses.
but nuclear weapons will significantly complicate the task of mattresses, since even 1 explosion will entail some consequences, more political than in terms of losses.
Trump then the bank clan will gobble up on the spot.

[Vadim237]

And what about an atomic explosion - they will immediately write it off to the actions of the DPRK.

[Nashensky city]

After Korea, they did not have worthy opponents. And those who participated in retirement a long time ago

[verner1967]

Quote: alexleony

Where did the USA get aces from? Where and when did they shoot down at least 5 enemy aircraft?

And D. D. Jabarra? Much more than five, and not just anyone, but our pilots. There is no need to toss bonnets into the air. The pilots who fought in Korea served in the same squadron with their father, because they had a very high opinion of US pilots.

[raw174]

Quote: alexleony

Where did the USA get aces from? Where and when did they shoot down at least 5 enemy aircraft?

It seems that today, the mattresses have the most combat-ready and trained aircraft, because they do a lot of work ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: alexleony

Where did the USA get aces from? Where and when did they shoot down at least 5 enemy aircraft?

Recently I watched a documentary about the Korean War. It's no secret that the USSR Air Force and the US Air Force fought in the sky. So here are the personnel losses - 118 of ours and one thousand one hundred and forty with something .. (I don’t remember how much exactly) American flyers. One to ten. Even for us, for the Airborne Forces, a good picture looms. And even more so for flyers. Where's the american asss? Who knows English - will understand a subtle pun ...

[voyaka uh]

"the USSR Air Force and the US Air Force fought. So the loss of personnel -
118 of ours and one thousand one hundred and forty with something .. (I don’t remember exactly how much) American flyers "///

You didn’t take into account that only fighters (one pilot) fought against the USSR, and the Americans -
bomber statues (in each - a couple of dozen people) and attack aircraft (on the ground) ..
The bombers suffered losses from both interceptors and air defense, and were smashed by technical problems.
And losses on fighter aircraft are approximately equal.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Zoldat_A

It's no secret that the USSR Air Force and the US Air Force fought in the sky. So the loss of personnel - 118 of ours and one thousand one hundred and forty with something .. (I don’t remember exactly how much) American flyers. One to ten.

It’s just that the journalists don’t take into account that not only advice with the Yankees fought in the Korean sky, but a list of aces of that war, here it ishttp://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/297732 and as you can clearly see, not only Joseph McConnell (16 victories) fought there against Evgeni Pepelyaev (23 victories), but also Kim Ki Ok (DPRK17 victory) was there with his comrades and the Chinese with his best ace Dong Wen (10 victories) there too checked in.

[voyaka uh]

Yes, I forgot about the Chinese pilots.

[Thunderbolt]

Everything is fine, if it’s interesting and the link opens, just look at which list:
http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories/china-ko.htm
lMikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis, People's Liberation Army Air Force (中國人民解放軍 空軍)

[voyaka uh]

I looked. Great site. And he looked about the Chinese.
In the Korean War, the MiG-15 really became famous throughout the world.

[bk316]

in each - a couple of dozen people

Lope? Lope?

[voyaka uh]

I went over ... In the Super Fortress, the crew is 12 people.

[aszzz888]

... the boiling point, on the Korean peninsula, is already approaching a critical point ...

[Corsair0304]

Really strange some kind of analysts. Well, who said that Kim III will fight in the air with obsolete equipment? The option of layered defense in conjunction with land / sea air defense (if any, in the DPRK) are not considered at all? Or habitually, everything is measured by the criteria of Yugoslavia and Iraq, which was so outdated that you are simply amazed. And then managed to land the vaunted F-117 "Stealth"

[raw174]

Quote: Corsair0304

Iraq which was so outdated that you are simply amazed.

Well, Iraq was quite strong in muscles (army), but weak in head (command) ...

Quote: Corsair0304

And then managed to land the vaunted F-117 "Stealth"

One??? Dear, this is not serious, in the whole history they shot down one plane and poke them now? ...

[Corsair0304]

Quote: raw174

One??? Dear, this is not serious, in the whole history they shot down one plane and poke them now? ...

Without a doubt, dear)) And what, are there any doubts?
As for the subject of discussion: F-117 "Stealth" I cited only as an example of the successful counteraction of outdated air defense systems to the latest technologically equipped combat aircraft.

“Here are the data from the Yugoslav side: 61 aircraft, 7 helicopters, 30 UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) and 238 cruise missiles. Of course, it can be argued that this is all the propaganda of the Yugoslavs, but why then are the NATO losses given by the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) ) are the Russian army close to the data of the Yugoslavs? The GRU data published in a number of Russian newspapers were obtained from radio intelligence, from reconnaissance satellites and ships located in the Mediterranean ... ""

can be found here:
https://topwar.ru/15180-poteri-nato-v-yugoslavii.
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[rotmistr60]

Kim has only outdated Soviet weapons.

In Yugoslavia, the American "invisibility" was shot down with an old Soviet air defense system, which the United States almost prayed for at that time. It would be interesting to see how the fifth points of American "aces" sweat when Korean air defense begins to work on them.

[just exp]

well, they will lose if not 1-2 planes, but 10-15, and what will it change?

[1536]

The Americans forget that there is still a battering ram when the plane goes to the enemy’s plane and crashes into it. Yes, there are a lot of things that they forgot to show in Hollywood films. And information about the top ten American planes shot down and the deaths of pilots is sobering up the United States that protests will be worse than hurricanes.
But, in fact, Comrade Kim and Comrade Trump are simply playing the fool, taking all of humanity hostage. How long?

[novel66]

correctly! let them decide in a fair fight - snout to snout!

[keeper03]

Give Trump a duel with Eun, on Russian roulette!

[Corsair0304]

In my opinion, Korean w-shu will make American boxing ...

[novel66]

they have taekwondo, Eun’s more weight - it will give ....

[ariman1]

battering ram .... And you can also go to the field and atatata on a cart with a maxim ...

[Vard]

Everything that happens reminds me of non-contact karate competitions ... there was such a thing ... But on the other hand, the DPRK has a fully operational air defense system ... Which can drive the US Air Force from low and medium altitudes ... and this dramatically reduces aviation efficiency ...

[Vadim237]

But it is incapable of knocking out tactical missiles and planning bombs, as well as strike UAVs and cruise missiles, since the DPRK does not have a single air defense system.

[just exp]

and what is their air defense, old art. systems and multi-barrel machine guns?

[Nashensky city]

Western media and the military, engaged in fortune-telling on coffee grounds, are considering the possibility of North Korean attacks using only airplanes

Why airplanes? Vigorous disc fly on an aircraft carrier and a mustache. And he will burn with the "American aces"

[Pecheneg]

Do mattresses miss the alleys of twinks?

[askme]

Idiots) In all seriousness they boast of it)) Show the "level") That's how God punishes, depriving the mind. The whole American nation. And only the Americans themselves, it seems, do not see this)) Here it is a miracle .... Well, let them dance, let it. In all seriousness) And it will not take a month for rotten eggs to fly from all over the world to them ... And the Western media themselves are to blame for this: they painted the DPRK as Papuans, absolutely wild, in loincloths. And get hold of such, grapple with such blah blah blah. Changing shoes in the air, during this swara - will not work. The brainwashing system failed. And the catastrophe of the image of a superpower for the United States can no longer be avoided) Now a superpower is the DPRK)) With which the United States fights, pissing, aces and so on ...))) And adult uncles like the Russian Federation and China stand aside, already silently) Even Germany and France disassociated themselves against this background. Because it's a SHAME!

[Nikolai Petrov]

The planes may be old, but the air defense of Comrade. It’s like it’s there (and how many air defense systems in North Korea are known only to God). Judging by the frames from the parades, some kind of three hundred was passing by. Yes, and the Chinese may customize their Hq-9, if not already fitted. And the fighting spirit of the “exceptional” will change when their “brave” flyers land and show in the media (unless of course the peasants chopped off with choppers). Well, and so apparently the laurels of the disreputable McCainushka are not exceptional.

[andrewkor]

And to try to North Korea for a tooth?

[Livonetc]

Quote: dik-nsk

oh .. China + Russia will not fit into a direct war - 200%

loshara trump has already lost!

loshara he or not will show the time while he is doing everything to restore the shaken greatness of mattress, I really hope that the horns will break off, but so far I see no reason for this

The United States also does not fit into a full-fledged war.

However, to deliver point missile strikes completely.
What will it be.
The risk of hitting Guam?
Not the fact that it will fly and that will not be brought down.
It all depends on the real state of affairs of the ballistic missile defense.
If the Americans are confident in their systems, then a blow to the DPRK is quite possible.
This will be a good indicator of the state of missile defense amers.
Just declassify in full.
However, another high risk.
If khaalennye petriots and other complexes miss a certain number of missiles, in addition to internal public indignation, it is possible to lose the loyalty of allies.
The fiasco will be an anti-advertising American military.
And if you take into account that in 2017, 700 yards of greenery was invested in the defense industry, then in general a megascandal is not far from impeachment there.
Donald is bred like a duckling.
He’s already since taking office, "The Lame Duck," and the debacle will ensure complete disability.

[CAT BAIYUN]

so what? Will you try to fly? Will you try Korea for strength substituting your striped buttocks? Tryndet, gentlemen, it is not bags tossing and turning.

[dojjdik]

"with a show off under an umbrella and in the rain himself" - such a corncracker was caught when Fidel asked him; but Eun is not a mug, they will not frighten him even with all the "asss" of America and Israel; and Hawaii is really a tidbit for a hydrogen bomb, these smug bourgeois pigs will burn

[pvv113]

Our aces to smithereens will destroy the old Soviet aircraft Kim

Don't say gop ...

[DEPARTMENT]

Our aces to smithereens will destroy the old Soviet aircraft Kim

I remember one place in the United States in Korea already, staff members are starting to forget ... Well, well!

[vlad.svargin]

And despite the advantage in terms of numbers and weapons, the Americans lost:

Category Army Marine Corps Air Force Navy Total
Killed in action 19 754 3 321
Died of wounds 1 904 536 16 28 2 484
Died in captivity 2 753 26 24 3
Missing in action 3 317 385
Wounded in action 77 596 23 744
Captured 6 656 221 123 112 7 112
Non-combat deaths 2 111 242
Missing in combat 22
Total: 114 113 28 475 1
There is evidence of non-combat irretrievable losses of 8 Americans, probably these are losses from diseases throughout the Far East. Currently, there are 370 unidentified bodies of American warriors: 8 prisoners, 176 killed in action, 2045 missing and 1794 killed in non-combat.

[Vadim237]

In this war they will lose a minuscule - cruise missiles, bombs, UAVs and war allies will do everything for them.

[Topotun]

Boys play a war .... And then the game ends and again the Americans and the whole world at the same time learn that death in the movie and death in reality are very different. Like the war, but what remains of the Korean Peninsula .... It looks like Trump was locked as never before. And he sees the only way out of the situation: to strain his citizens a little war, to let off steam .... He just doesn’t take into account that he is responsible for everything anyway. As the leader of the country. However, given how MUCH wars the states unleashed and no one answered for it - everything was not so bad for him.

[voyaka uh]

"It seems Trump was locked up like never before" ////

Eun and pinned. Missile and nuclear tests. Eun and dissipate.

[askme]

No. Trump began in the spring with threats about a change in the DPRK regime and a missile attack against Syria.

[Freeman]

Zoldat_A Today, 08: 12

Recently I watched a documentary about the Korean War. It's no secret that the USSR Air Force and the US Air Force fought in the sky. So the loss of personnel - 118 of ours and one thousand one hundred and forty with something .. (I don’t remember exactly how much) American flyers.

This loss ratio is explained by the fact that Soviet pilots fought on fighter jets, performing air defense tasks to intercept American bombers.
MiG-15 crew - 1 person The crew of the V-29 - 12 people.

data on US losses in the Korean War from June 25, 1950 to July 27, 1953 (as of June 1, 2000):

Air force category
Killed in battle 198
Died of wounds 16
Died in captivity 24
Missing in battle 960
Injured in battle 368
Captured 123
Non-Combat Death 9
Missing in action 291
Total: 1989

[wandlitz]

North Korean political leadership, recalling that the United States actually declared war on the republic. Today, the State Department has already made excuses that he "did not declare war" ...

[Kostadinov]

Our aces to smithereens will destroy the old Soviet aircraft Kim

They thought the same thing in 1950 during today's grandfather of Kim and how then it all ended is well known. At that time, the DPRK did not have its own weapons industry and nuclear weapons.
And specifically about aviation:
In the Korean War, the Yak-9 Korean piston successfully shot down the B-29 super-fortresses and the P-80 Shuting star fighter jets, and the Po-2 destroyed the F-86 Saber on the ground. In Vietnamese, Korean pilots on the MiG-17 successfully shot down the F-4.

[rail.rf]

US media: Our aces to pieces will smash the old Soviet aircraft Kim

More like: "woof-woof ....
- Woof woof woof
-wave woof woof woof "

[Livonetc]

Quote: voyaka uh

"It seems Trump was locked up like never before" ////

Eun and pinned. Missile and nuclear tests. Eun and dissipate.

To disentangle everyone and for a long time.
A real nuclear strike on South Korea will remove one of the leading economies from the world market.
Next, a new steep turn of a protracted crisis.
But the Korean Amer did not try.
Trump needs to prove himself as a tough guy, that’s what he shows.
Inside America, all his reforms were pushed tightly.
The basis for impeachment is summed up from all sides.
Eun is very beneficial to him.

[Knizhnik]

I believe that with the onset of the conflict (God forbid) the Koreans will suddenly have something to fight - the "well-wishers" of the hegemon will not stint ...

[Pavlovsky]

If you fly.

[Vladimir Mamkin]

The worst thing in military affairs is to overestimate yourself and not to evaluate the enemy, how much the mattresses have already paid for it do not know history

[Vadim237]

The worst thing is that they will arrange a nuclear training for the DPRK - the conduct of hostilities using nuclear weapons. And again, a great opportunity to test all new weapons in practice.

[askme]

Well, let them learn before the death that ensues from the PRC immediately, that’s bad luck. And the Russian Federation will stand - see how ICBMs wave each other "wings" on the opposite courses, by the way, few people think that all ICBM routes between the continental United States and North Korea, excluding the South Pole, lie over the Primorye Territory of the Russian Federation ...

[Terenin]

We also have someone in the first Chechen city of Grozny in two hours who promised to take one regiment ...