In Kazakhstan, an active phase of the integrated air defense system was held

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At the Saryshagan proving ground in Kazakhstan, an active phase of a joint exercise with live firing of air defense forces in the framework of the Combined Commonwealth Air Defense System of the CIS countries "Combat Commonwealth-2017" passed, Interfax-AVN the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan.



According to the information, within the framework of the exercise, the pilots of the Air Force of Kazakhstan performed flights with combat use aviation means of destruction. “During the exercise, a wide range of weapons were used, in particular, short, medium and long-range, air-to-surface guided missiles, as well as air bombs and unguided rockets of various calibers,” the department said.

The launches were carried out from Su-27, Su-30CM, MiG-29, MiG-31 multifunctional fighters on air and ground targets, as well as from Mi-35М and Mi-171Sh helicopters, while at the same time, combat techniques were tested using modern models aviation technology. Combat calculations of air defense troops carried out launches of anti-aircraft missile systems C-300, C-200, C-125, C-75 "Cube" and "Circle" on the air targets and worked out the issues of early detection of enemy air,
says release.

In addition, as part of the exercise, “combat firing of air defense clearing units, which were carried out on ROUDE-50 long-range reactive lighting cartridges replacing the conditional enemy air target, on land targets (armored personnel carrier) and conditionally hovering in the sky, added, in the press service.
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  1. +2
    15 September 2017
    I can’t hear howling from a "preoccupied" Europe! !!
    1. +3
      16 September 2017
      Pay attention to the actions of our Air Force and missile launches, among which are the expensive long-range airborne forces. and vp-class rockets. So we can afford it. And the composition is also good, albeit a "small spool", which the Su-30SM and MiG-31 cost. Recently, they wrote for a new contract for 12 Su-30SM. You and the MiG-35 would have advised, our MiG-29s are already quite old.
      From our direction, only from Afghanistan can NATO be threatening. And fly to the Russian Federation at low altitudes is unrealistic. Therefore, the old S-200 and S-125 still fit together. In Russia, re-equipment on the S-400 is in full swing, so we will have the S-300 at the time. Torahs have been ordered, and it seems to me that they are waiting for the S-350, which they promise to finalize this year.
      I wonder what our Minister of Defense looked after in the Russian Federation? hi
      1. +2
        16 September 2017
        Quote: Kasym
        Ordered Torah,

        There seem torahs in container execution in Astana.
        1. +1
          21 September 2017
          Swamps, what do you think of the S-350, whose tests are being completed? We seem to have no such radius at all (excluding the old S-125). And judging by your news, having a small and long radius (we will consider S-300 as such) will we buy them? hi
          And the Torahs are good, I wonder what configuration, the latest models, or what?
          1. 0
            21 September 2017
            Quote: Kasym
            Swamps, what do you think of the S-350, whose tests are being completed? We seem to have no such radius at all (excluding the old S-125). And judging by your news, having a small and long radius (we will consider S-300 as such) will we buy them?

            It is unlikely that they are needed, just to estimate distances, long-range and military air defense systems, plus aviation, are needed. It will not work to cover everything, it’s painfully expensive to cover it.
            Torah interests me the same as and how but it is clear that they are covered.
            1. +2
              21 September 2017
              This is understandable about "cover everything." Responsible for the north of the Russian Federation, in the east, the Chinese are unlikely to pose a threat because of the Uighurs, there remains the south and the Caspian, where, in principle, I do not see enemies. Therefore, I see the line of Sary-Ozek, Otar, west of Taraz, Chimkent, Kyzyl-Orda and to the Caspian. At such a distance, they are able to cover each other and even replace during destruction (if the radius is really 400 km). S-400 division and order.
              But isn't the S-350 mobile, and why can't troops be covered? Of course you need more tori. hi
              1. 0
                21 September 2017
                Quote: Kasym
                S-400 division and order.

                Here we need it.
                Quote: Kasym
                But isn't the S-350 mobile, and why can't troops be covered? Of course you need more tori

                It is not mobile, but for poor countries with a small area. Typically Syria.
                We need military defense systems very much and not the fact that they will be of Russian production.
                By the way, this week there are no traffic jams in the city, it’s not because of DADS that I am amazed and I can’t understand, the bazaars are working. Where did the rest go? What is the matter? Did the officials start using public transport or dumped them from the city.
  2. +1
    15 September 2017
    Soon Kazakhstan will become Latinized and it will also be torn off by Natsik from us as Ukraine
    1. 0
      15 September 2017
      Russia will grow the original territories torn off by the Bolsheviks in Russia in this case, all as with the valtsmans and sorosklintoids in Ukraine)
  3. +4
    15 September 2017
    Combat crews of the Air Defense Forces launched C-300, C-200, C-125, C-75 "Cube" and "Circle" anti-aircraft missile systems against air targets

    They write garbage. negative At present, in the CIS countries there are no more capable Kub and Krug air defense systems. And the functioning C-200ВМ and С-75М3 can be counted on the fingers.
    1. +3
      15 September 2017
      Quote: Bongo
      S-75M3 can be counted on the fingers.

      The Kyrgyz museum workers only. Yes
      1. +2
        16 September 2017
        Quote: Vladimirets
        The Kyrgyz museum workers only.

        Not only. Last year, the 2 division still functioned in Kazakhstan.
        1. 0
          16 September 2017
          Quote: Bongo
          Not only. Last year, the 2 division still functioned in Kazakhstan.

          So ours are sent to you to study in Cuba and the Circle, the school has forgotten.
          1. +3
            16 September 2017
            Quote: marshes
            So ours are sent to you to study in Cuba and the Circle, the school has forgotten.

            None of these systems are in service with us. You apparently confuse with "Buk". The last battery of the Krug air defense system was withdrawn from service in Russia over 10 years ago. And the matter is not only in outdated tube electronics and low noise immunity of the complex. Missiles with ramjet fueled with kerosene due to cracking of the rubber fuel tanks mercilessly flowed and posed a real danger at launch. With "Cubes" about the same story, only there is used solid fuel, with a shelf life of 10 years. Take an interest when the newest “Cube” and “Circle” were built.
            1. 0
              16 September 2017
              Quote: Bongo
              None of these systems are in service with us. You apparently confuse with "Buk". The last battery of the Krug air defense system was withdrawn from service in Russia over 10 years ago. And the matter is not only in outdated tube electronics and low noise immunity of the complex. Missiles with ramjet fueled with kerosene due to cracking of the rubber fuel tanks mercilessly flowed and posed a real danger at launch. With "Cubes" about the same story, only there is used solid fuel, with a shelf life of 10 years. Take an interest when the newest “Cube” and “Circle” were built.

              No, I don’t confuse. Alas, we do not have Bukov, it’s just that the school still educates foreigners on those systems.
              You didn’t offer beeches to us, you just said if we would come to your aid from Orenburg.
              Here a strange thing happens, the military defense systems do not offer, sell. laughing
              For this, the Torah is only in container design.
              1. +2
                16 September 2017
                Quote: marshes
                No, I don’t confuse. Alas, we do not have Bukov, it’s just that the school still educates foreigners on those systems.

                Learning to “Circle” and “Cube” is meaningless, because for objective reasons they have outlived their own.
                Quote: marshes
                You didn’t offer beeches to us, you just said if we would come to your aid from Orenburg.

                They offered, but in Kazakhstan there is no money. request
                Quote: marshes
                Here a strange thing happens, the military defense systems do not offer, sell.

                I bet I know how recently two S-300PS divisions left for Kazakhstan. But the systems are not very new and the number of missiles to them is limited, because rocket production ceased over 10 years ago.
                Quote: marshes
                For this, the Torah is only in container design.

                They are cheaper.
                1. +1
                  16 September 2017
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Learning to “Circle” and “Cube” is meaningless, because for objective reasons they have outlived their own.

                  Last year I saw on our military website an announcement about recruiting applicants for study with you, it was the specialties in these complexes that indicated -8 people.
                  Quote: Bongo
                  They offered, but in Kazakhstan there is no money.

                  Grandmas, that is, just recently they have been spending on the defense industry except for the bearded, they scored the rest. My opinion.
                  Quote: Bongo
                  They are cheaper.

                  Yes, it’s understandable, although they could have spent some money. Not long ago, the air defense military exercises were, ZSU Shilka and Strela -10, on the one hand, were joyfully-new machines, after the capitals, on the other hand, it was disturbing where the Shell, at least the Tunguska and so on ...
                  Looks like someone gave guarantees, but in our time you can’t trust anyone.
  4. +2
    15 September 2017
    This photo has already been staked by guys from Buryatia with news a little earlier. )))
  5. +5
    15 September 2017
    Quote: mashinist
    Soon Kazakhstan will become Latinized and it will also be torn off by Natsik from us as Ukraine


    Well, why clearly show the level of ignorance? Read the official statement, which is already widely distributed:
    Bozhko spoke about conversations about the disappearance of the Cyrillic alphabet
    Deputy Chairman of the Mazhilis of the Parliament of the Republic of Kazakhstan, member of the Assembly of the People of Kazakhstan Vladimir Bozhko noted that the President of Kazakhstan created the conditions for a painless transition to the Latin alphabet, without creating difficulties for other ethnic groups living in the republic, Tengrinews.kz reports.
    Bozhko said this during the discussion of the transition to the Latin alphabet in the Assembly of the People of Kazakhstan.
    “Firstly, we are obligatory, all our youth learn three languages. That is, there are some arguments that we will break away from the powerful layer of Russian culture, Russian knowledge and economy, supposedly having lost knowledge of the Cyrillic alphabet, they are absolutely unreasonable. (...) The President, tactfully, in a great way, led our society to the point of trilingualism. Now, among young people, there is a desire to learn English, which is one of the conditions for the success of the realization of their intellectual abilities. The Latin, after all, will only push it - it will be easier to learn the Kazakh language. Since everything is drawn to English, and here the (Kazakh) language will be in Latin, which we are now learning without fail. That is, this is an additional plus that will affect other ethnic groups, ”said Vladimir Bozhko.
    “We, in the Association of Russian and Slavic Cossack organizations, are working to clarify and localize the concern that arose at the first stage, that the Cyrillic alphabet will disappear from us. How can she disappear, Cyrillic? If we have compulsory learning of three languages ​​at school! Passing exams in Kazakh and Russian, that is, we get a multilingual society that will have economic, strategic and cultural benefits in the common field of cooperation of peoples, ”said Vladimir Bozhko.
    He believes that the transition to the Latin alphabet in Kazakhstan will allow you to quickly learn the language of the Russian-speaking population.
    “This will allow the Slavic component of ethno-cultural associations to quickly learn the Kazakh language, still be advanced in that the Cyrillic alphabet does not disappear. (...) The decision that the President put into the Constitution that the Russian language is the language of international communication, I definitely want to say that the time is not far off when the Kazakh language will be the language of international communication in our country. What the President invests, political will and what the government invests, I think we will come to this. And then we will have three languages ​​of interethnic communication, and English, and Kazakh, and Russian. Who knows, maybe Chinese, ”said Vladimir Bozhko.
    Concluding the speech, the vice-speaker of the Mazhilis noted that over time, the digraphs proposed in the new version of the Kazakh alphabet will be easily perceived.
    “Dear colleagues, some transcriptions of Chinese characters are read in such a way that they cannot be read from a position accustomed to the Cyrillic alphabet. But nothing, the Chinese lives. And when we learn to perceive one or another combination of letters, it will mean not what you read from the position of the Russian language, but from the position of the Kazakh language, all questions will be removed, ”summarized Vladimir Bozhko.
    1. 0
      16 September 2017
      Why do I need an official statement if I have a head on my shoulders? Is it not clear that in the event of a crisis such as the 90s, it will be easier for Kazakhs to come off with a tempting offer, especially since the Latin for them will become native !!!!!! The law on compulsory study of 3 languages ​​can be easily changed by excluding Russian in case their maidanutyh come to power who are also being readied there .... Do you not understand that if you cannot carry out a coup in Kazakhstan now, then you can prepare favorable soil for later! Fortunately, Americans do not have financial difficulties with the implementation of various projects .... We need to learn Russian to be as culturally, technically, economically as possible so that later it is harder to do something with us, and such steps as the Latin are a kind of harmless change that is covered by an additional plus but in fact this is an important step for the future combination ... In Ukraine, too, there were conversations to introduce the Latin alphabet and what for do I have this gemmore? I know the Latin alphabet normally, why do I need to use it for reading or writing ?? AND? What is the need for this?
      1. +2
        16 September 2017
        Where to "come off" to China or what? And who will turn the coup? How to cancel Russian, if half of the schools were Russian and registered as interethnic for a reason. 130 nationalities how to “force” to speak Kazakh, if even from the Union the communication is between them in Russian?
        We have no analogues of Moscow State University, MGIMO, Baumanka, GITIS, etc. - that’s why we need him. Half of the students abroad study in Russia. We belong to the Russian scientific school - if we want to develop science, it is impossible without Russian, there are no scientific councils for the defense of doctoral dissertations.
        The Bolsheviks introduced the Latin alphabet in the 20s, in the second half of the 30s they transferred to the Cyrillic alphabet. Most of the Turkic states in Latin - apparently this is the reason. hi
        1. 0
          20 September 2017
          What kind of stupid questions who will check, as if Russian is registered .., 130 nationalities, etc. Now Poroshenko has introduced a law that the Russian language (languages ​​of national minorities) in schools will teach up to 4 classes, and from the age of 20 will cease !!! Waters to what slid Ukraine! Although the maydaunas said that there will be no Ukrainization and will not infringe on anyone, they just want to develop a mov! It is the same with you and you must not allow this. Laws change in an instant, and such a complex process as the restructuring of the masses of people is protracted, and your Nursultans pave the way and then if the Nazis spread the idea of ​​Kazakhstan’s independence, this step will help them! It is necessary to make Russian state one for circulation, more hours of Russian than Kazakh, because anyway in the future we will become one civilization and different languages ​​will be a hindrance; it’s better to spend time on another; I’ll definitely be safe for Russification of Kazakhstan and complete assimilation with joining Russia. And look differently at Ukraine and I will say that there is little chance that this land will return to Russia. She was too torn off and surrounded by Russophobic neighbors, a belt of friends ..
          1. +1
            21 September 2017
            We have a different policy and cannot be compared with Ukraine. Read about the Assembly of the Peoples of Kazakhstan, its rights and obligations for their specials. site. hi
            1. 0
              21 September 2017
              Yes, the US policy has not changed for 50 years and will not change! And your policy, like all kinds of assemblies, is a fragile substance supported by the Natsiks who support you, the wrong movement or death of the old man and your policy will be swept away like Yanyka and Kazakhstan will be plunged into the abyss and the law adopted by this government will change its meaning and will be used against Russia! It’s clear as a day, but if we go along the path of rapprochement with Russia, the deeper the rapprochement, the less we will help the Natsiks or even give up on it! We are "Ukraine" so burned and you looking at the whole situation should make the right conclusions, and not succumb to such dubious offers
              1. +1
                21 September 2017
                NPOs under state control from zero.
                You do not live here, so you do not know anything about our Natsik. They can only be found on the Internet. But in society it’s impossible - an article. Organizations, parties, etc. by nationality, religion, ethnicity sign prohibited - article (i.e. such as Right Sector prohibited). For fomenting interethnic. discord - article. For unauthorized person. rallies - article. All that concerns the authorities and the system are police officers. state of. On the other hand, the yellow press, which had already climbed into bed with the president, in bulk. You can criticize the authorities and the whole arrangement as you please. Even in the VO shaft of criticism about the NAS and its entourage and family. Only the lazy does not talk about this in the RK, but as soon as the elections, the majority votes for him. And he already has a bunch of chicks ready to replace him.
                So this, according to the GDP, Kazakhstan is the engine of integration in post-Soviets. space. Therefore, I see no reason in your promise about staying closer to the Russian Federation. The NAS insists on this with 93, so we have been sitting under tacit sanctions for a long time - except for the PRC and Asia, nobody is particularly keen to invest in us (except for the extraction of resources). We even asked the EBN to leave us and the Kyrgyz in the ruble zone, but he sent a bureaucrat who said that the Russian Federation did not see us in the ruble zone (he forgot his name, but he is still in high offices, bespectacled man). So we didn’t run away, but they kicked us out. And about the Latin alphabet. In Kazakhstan, 50% of schools are Russian and 88 more schools are Ukrainian., Tajik., Uyghur. and the Uzbek languages ​​(and this large city of the Republic of Kazakhstan has such a number of schools; 19 cities are more or less considered large). And how can we forget the Cyrillic alphabet, if it even in Kazakh schools has an equal number of hours with Kazakh?
                ANC has 9 seats in parliament and the right to ratify laws (expertise on interethnic consent). In the ANC collected all nat. Diasporas of Kazakhstan. The congress is held once a year under the chairmanship of the president - any diaspora can raise any issue, any pritenzia is being studied, and the prepared ANC law should be adopted. Those. ANC itself can write and promote laws. ANC has offices everywhere. She creates evening schools, etc., to study and promote the languages ​​and traditions of the peoples of the Republic of Kazakhstan. We have one. in the CIS, German, Uyghur and Korean nat. theaters, TV and radio. hi
                1. 0
                  22 September 2017
                  Natsik is exaggerated about the purchased opposition, in which Natsik will also fulfill their function! The integration motor is until the NAS has left and those who need not made a coup !!!! You live in the system as if it is unchanged, but I suggest taking a look at Ukraine, where they just broke everything !!! And Ukrainians do not forget Russian Russian, and in Ukraine a bunch of nat. minorities, but for now !! Power is already completely under the hood and conducts aggressive Ukrainization! All that you bring as an argument will sprinkle like a house on the sand if you are occupied! And what will it cost to stupidly cancel the Cyrillic alphabet and the Russian language in all areas except everyday communication if traitors come? Now these same traitors will come and try to re-educate the people how much time it will take, and already the prepared soil will already be !!!!! And if Kazakhstan is the motor of unification and sees itself with Russia, then why the hell do you need to strain people to learn Kazakh in Latin ?? What nonsense ?? Let's learn to write in Kazakh, but in hieroglyphs, why not? That’s practical sense with Gulkin’s nose, and don’t talk about the rest of Central Asia, these are too poor countries for the sake of a safe neighborhood with them it was necessary to educate people in Latin and, in general, the Russian language of interethnic communication so that everyone can switch to it. And do not say that it will be easier to learn English, this is also insanity, start learning English in elementary school and it will be easy for you and you don’t need to learn Kazakh in the Latin version!
  6. +2
    15 September 2017
    It is interesting from whom it protects air defense of Kazakhstan
    1. +3
      15 September 2017
      Quote: Ken71
      It is interesting from whom it protects air defense of Kazakhstan

      By the way, yes ... I was also interested in this question. From China or what?
      1. +1
        15 September 2017
        NATO bases still remain in Afghanistan. Well, at least they asked me to leave Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan. hi
    2. +3
      16 September 2017
      Quote: Ken71
      It is interesting from whom it protects air defense of Kazakhstan

      The air defense system of Kazakhstan is clearly focal in nature and is now not capable of resisting the air attack by the PRC and NATO. The capital, Astana, is currently best covered. The rest of the vast territory is not only unprotected, but also does not have a continuous radar field. The bulk of air defense systems and systems in Kazakhstan are hopelessly outdated.
      1. +2
        16 September 2017
        I agree, but the main element of air defense is still the MiG-31 interceptors (to the regiment) - see the article on the launches of the Airborne Forces. distant glad. action ..
        And so. On the S-300 it was even a purchase from the beginning of the century, but you yourself did not have enough. It is now the S-400 series has gone and the opportunity has arisen. So we did not look for an alternative, like Uzbeks with HQ-9. And now with light front-line fighters. MiG-23 (these only raise parades) and MiG-29 are already at the limit of resources, but we are stubbornly waiting for the 35th.
        Of course, this is my point of view. hi
        Alma-Ata from the S-300 Union is covered.
        1. 0
          16 September 2017
          Quote: Kasym
          Alma-Ata from the S-300 Union is covered.

          It was not covered where the launcher is mainly S-75. Nearby Komsomol. But from the road you can see the area of ​​Pervomaisky Ponds, there is a bunch of radar.
          In general, Atu planned that if in those years the Chinese were planning to turn in and the line should be in the Otar-Bishkek area. Under unfavorable circumstances, even in Almaty, the food supply was 100 thousand, as well as possible places of shelter from bombs.
          1. +2
            21 September 2017
            All or all, but with the status of the capital of the Kazakh SSR and the Republic of Kazakhstan, the complexes stood. A senior official told me about this. Then they kind of relocated to Astana.
            And the new ones that came from the Russian Federation, where will they be put after the capital? I don’t remember how many divisions (about a dozen, I don’t remember exactly), but I think at least one will be installed near Ata.
            In fact, most likely all the junk is shot, since the Russians arrive. There the ammunition there seems to be not big, but I think that it makes sense in the long-range S-400 (like in the spring they adopted a missile with the longest range). They can block neighboring Central Asian countries in terms of a common air defense system. Especially in the south from Taldy-Kurgan to the Caspian. With radars located on the tops of the mountains. That would be the case. The states are not going to go out yet - under this pretext it will be advised that the Chinese do not particularly express concern, but rather welcomed it. hi
        2. +2
          16 September 2017
          Some more facts and reasoning.
          After the well-known events, the budget of the Moscow Region has been increased MANY. A program for further modernization and re-equipment for new types has been announced (before that it was for repair and modernization). A new ministry for the aerospace industry appeared (before that it was only reduced to committees or merged). Therefore, from 13g. procurement of nova went (before that there was practically nothing new - used / bought or repaired, modernized). Su-30SM, Mi-35, Torah, etc. .. They started to do something themselves (armored personnel carriers, optics: sights, night lights, etc.).
          As for the radar field. The fact is that military airfields have long been repaired, and some modernized; graduate civilians. They are considering the construction of new ones (near Alma-Ata) and an increase in old or additional lanes. There were arrangements for the French radar. From the Russian Federation for over-the-horizon and general air defense. Therefore, work is underway and I am sure that the issue will be closed in the near future, if it is not already closed. Since it will be impossible to talk about general air defense. And to “cover” the radar field is the business and duty of each republic, the entrance. in general air defense.
          Another point. They even bought shock UAVs in China. And in general, judging by the procurements, these are air defense and air forces. OTRK Tochka-U was assembled and serviced in Petropavlovsk. BTT in Semipalatinsk. Side of new armored personnel carriers in Astana. Boats in Uralsk. Recently, our Minister of Defense was on a working visit to the Russian Federation and attended exhibitions. It seems to me that just did not go. And it's not just about the announced contract for 12 Su-30SM. hi
  7. +1
    15 September 2017
    Quote: Ken71
    It is interesting from whom it protects air defense of Kazakhstan


    I regret that you have not been widely consulted with. This happens, so you can forgive both the CSTO and the Gene. headquarters of the Russian Federation, KZ. Henceforth, they will not allow this. And if they allow, develop and announce sanctions !!! Good girl, you are ours !!!!
    1. +2
      16 September 2017
      Do not pay attention, men forget that in Afghanistan, NATO bases with aircraft are located and are not going to leave. So these teachings are logical. Especially with the actions of aviation on the application. Air-to-surface missiles and long-range air-to-air missiles are very expensive. And if ours can afford it, then it is very cool. If you look at the actions of the Ukrainian Air Force, you can see that they had no experience with the use. The plaque is weak, according to the officer. statistics 15 hours a year - there is no time for use, pilots would not forget the basics. And here in the presence of the countries of the Commonwealth, they are sure that the pilots will work as they should. Therefore, the coating is good, and know how to apply. These are the conclusions from this message. hi
  8. +2
    15 September 2017
    Quote: Bongo
    Combat crews of the Air Defense Forces launched C-300, C-200, C-125, C-75 "Cube" and "Circle" anti-aircraft missile systems against air targets

    They write garbage. negative At present, in the CIS countries there are no more capable Kub and Krug air defense systems. And the functioning C-200ВМ and С-75М3 can be counted on the fingers.

    This is already a middle age, for air defense it is the same as Т34-85
    1. +1
      16 September 2017
      Quote: seacap
      This is already a middle age, for air defense it is the same as Т34-85

      Only in a tank since the Second World War, sophisticated electronics and rockets of limited shelf life are not used.
  9. +1
    15 September 2017
    Quote: seacap
    Quote: Bongo
    Combat crews of the Air Defense Forces launched C-300, C-200, C-125, C-75 "Cube" and "Circle" anti-aircraft missile systems against air targets

    They write garbage. negative At present, in the CIS countries there are no more capable Kub and Krug air defense systems. And the functioning C-200ВМ and С-75М3 can be counted on the fingers.

    This is already a middle age, for air defense it is the same as Т34-85


    Are you sure about that? Ah, how false are Gene. headquarters of Russia, and KZ. !!!! Bongo firmly maintains that they are not, and the troops of Russia and Kz. they shoot down targets !!! It is unethical, because if Bongo declared this, then it is so !!!
    1. +3
      16 September 2017
      Quote: Best
      Are you sure about that? Ah, how false are Gene. headquarters of Russia, and KZ. !!!! Bongo firmly maintains that they are not, and the troops of Russia and Kz. they shoot down targets !!! It is unethical, because if Bongo declared this, then it is so !!!

      Before you write "ideologically correct slogans", take the trouble to study the issue! fool Do you know how the S-200ВМ air defense systems differ from the S-200D, or the S-75М3 and the S-75М4? How many of them were built and where are they still in service? For what reason and when were the Kub and Krug military air defense systems decommissioned? If not, then why not open your mouth. negative Silence does not mean the presence of mind, but indicates the absence of stupidity.
      Exactly a year ago, especially for people like you, I finished this cycle: The current state of the air defense of the countries of the former Soviet Union republics. Part 10 (clickable). At the end of each publication there is a link to the previous parts. There are, including about Kazakhstan. If you can argue reasonedly, then I am always open to discussion.
      1. +1
        16 September 2017
        Quote: Bongo
        Before you write "ideologically correct slogans", take the trouble to study the issue!

        Yes, it’s another word, with air defense, as you wrote about focal defense. But there they pray for the existing Aviation and the radar field is completely closed using a container-type radar.
        1. +3
          16 September 2017
          Quote: marshes
          Yes, it’s another word, with air defense, as you wrote about focal defense. But there they pray for the existing Aviation and the radar field is completely closed using a container-type radar.

          With all due respect ... but there are not many interceptors in Kazakhstan and in the event of a collision with a strong enemy they are not able to cover even the main centers. There is no continuous radar field even in the Russian Federation. With modern locators in Kazakhstan, too, not very, the Soviet legacy is largely ruined. Moreover, the most modern stations have been lost: 5X75 Periscope-V, 35X6 (ST-68UM) and 22X6M Desna-M. The radars created at the beginning of the 70’s remained: the 5Н84, П-18, П-19 and П-37, but this is already the “Stone Age”. Although they were planning to purchase TRS GM400 radars from Thales Raytheon Systems, it is not clear how western-made stations will be integrated into the Integrated Air Defense System.
          1. +1
            16 September 2017
            Quote: Bongo
            With all due respect ... but there are not many interceptors in Kazakhstan, and in the event of a collision with a strong enemy, they are not able to cover even the main centers

            I agree, here’s another air regiment that may appear, have not yet decided on the choice of aircraft.
            Quote: Bongo
            Although we were planning to purchase TRS GM400 radars from Thales Raytheon Systems, it is not clear how western-made stations will be integrated into the Unified Air Defense System.

            It is you or we, although we have been assembling them for a long time in Almaty. I've seen it somewhere. By the way, they have an open "architecture" and it seems that you are making something similar.
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              16 September 2017
              Quote: marshes
              It is you or we, although we have been assembling them for a long time in Almaty. I've seen it somewhere. By the way, they have an open "architecture" and it seems that you are making something similar.

              There are no such stations in the Russian Federation. This is a joint US-French development.
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                16 September 2017
                Quote: Bongo
                There are no such stations in the Russian Federation. This is a joint US-French development.

                Something similar in wavelength and in equipment placement.
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      16 September 2017
      Quote: Best
      Are you sure about that?

      stop Sergei, unlike you, does not write what is impossible to prove!
      Quote: Best
      Oh, what a lie and Gene. the headquarters of Russia, and Kz. !!!!

      Did you read the "news" carefully? negative Where they say about the "General Staff of Russia, and Kz"? This information "Interfax" with reference to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan. How much the journalists understand about the air defense systems can only be guessed at.
      Quote: Bongo
      Before writing ideologically correct slogans, take the trouble to study the question!

      What for? For this, you need to turn on the brain, and it may turn out that reality does not correspond to the picture of the media being formed.
      Quote: Bongo
      Exactly a year ago, especially for people like you, I finished this cycle

      No swords beads .... this is not interesting.
      Quote: Bongo
      If able to argue reasonably, then I am always open to discussion.

      You know perfectly well that the arguments will, at best, be taken from Wiki. lol

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