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860 years ago, 8 September 1157, was born the famous English king Richard I the Lionheart. His main deed was active participation in the Third Crusade, which led to the ruin of the English kingdom. However, in the knightly epic, Richard the Lionheart took one of the central places along with Roland and King Arthur. In Russia, he became famous thanks to the novels of Walter Scott (“Ivanhoe”) and the images in a number of films about the knight Ivanhoe and the noble robber Robin Hood.

The image of a noble monarch, a knight without fear and reproach, was created in fiction. In reality, this was a typical feudal warrior who was more concerned with war and fame than with the well-being of his subjects. Before the coronation, he fought with his brothers and father for power and land. And after he became king, his main focus was on raising money to fight in the Holy Land, and at the end of the board again in France. His contemporary, the French king Philip II was not a knight, but pursued a more rational policy, strengthening royal power and laying the foundations for creating a strong and united France.



Richard was born on September 8 1157, Oxford, in Beaumont Castle. He was the third son of Henry II of England and Alienora (Eleanor) of Aquitaine. His father Henry II was the first king of England from the Plantagenet dynasty, one of the most powerful monarchs of the XII century, whose possessions stretched from the Pyrenees to Scotland. It is worth noting that at that time a significant part of modern France was part of the Kingdom of England. The family life of Heinrich and Alienor did not work out. The queen not only herself constantly clashed with her husband, but also pulled into her intrigues four sons - Heinrich, nicknamed, unlike her father, Young (Young King), Richard, Geoffroy and John.

Richard was born in England, but grew up and was raised at the court of his mother, Alienor of Aquitaine, whose personal possessions were intended to be his inheritance. From an early age, Richard dreamed of knightly deeds and prepared himself for them. He owned very well weapons, and loved hunting. At the age of 15, he became Duke of Aquitaine, a region in the south of France. Richard was well educated (he loved music, even wrote poetry), outwardly he was handsome - tall, blue-eyed and fair-haired, a young Viking hero. Interestingly, Richard could not communicate with his subjects in English due to his ignorance, his actual homeland was one of historical regions of France. He considered French and Provencal as his native languages, and also spoke Italian and Latin.



Feudal wars

The relationship between father and sons was not ideal - the sons then fought against their father, then reconciled, the king of France participated in these conflicts, trying to regain some of the territories occupied by the British. Attempts by Henry to divide his domain among his many children constantly caused conflicts. In 1170, Heinrich the Young was crowned, titled the king of England, the ruler of Normandy, Brittany, Anjou, Maine, but did not own anything. He wanted to rule in his lands and revolted against his father. In addition, the feudal lords of the French territories were dependent on the English crown. They were encouraged both by vassals and Alienora Aquitaine’s mother against Henry II. In 1173, Richard and his brother Jeffrey (Duke of Brittany) joined Henry the Young against his father. Alienora led a revolt of Aquitaine barons. Baron insurgencies broke out in England and Brittany. However, Henry collected a mercenary army and began to beat the opponents separately. Alienora was captured by her husband, was transferred to England. She held a captive 12 for years. Richard decided that the case was lost and the first of the brothers came to his father in Poitiers and begged forgiveness. Henry II treated his son graciously. Richard retained Poitou, but obeyed his father. Then he crushed the revolt of the barons in the interests of his father.

As a result, Richard soon earned a reputation as a brave warlord and a good organizer. In 1175 – 1185 he crushed the revolts of the subjects of the English crown. He was famous for the fact that in 1179 he managed to take Tayburg Castle in Senton, which was considered impregnable. At the beginning of 1183, a new crisis began: Geoffroy and Heinrich Young supported vassals who rebelled against Richard. He in response ravaged Brittany. Henry II supported Richard. In turn, Heinrich the Young turned for help to the French king. But the war quickly ended, as Heinrich the Young died. After the death of Henry the Young King, Richard became the heir to the English crown, while Aquitaine Henry II decided to give it to his younger brother John. After asking for time to think, Richard retired to Aquitaine and from there he sent a decisive refusal. This caused a new conflict — this time between Richard, on the one hand, and Jeffrey and John, on the other. Some vassals of Henry the Young joined the younger brothers.

In the autumn of 1184, Heinrich summoned his sons to England and tried to reconcile them. For this, he even freed his wife Alienor, but in 1185, the sons' conflict continued. Jeffrey of Breton died in a joust. The end of the reign of Henry was in the feudal war with the participation of the French king Philippe. Sometimes in these conflicts, Heinrich and his successor Richard acted as allies, another time as opponents. So, Richard at this very moment became especially close to Philip II. When he was his guest in Paris, "they," as the chronicle reports, "ate at the same table and slept in the same bed." At the beginning of 1188, Philip II was about to invade Normandy to knock Henry II out. But all of Europe was already full of vague rumors about the failures in the Middle East, that the Christian barons were losing their possessions under the blows of the “infidels” united under the rule of Saladin. News of the fall of Jerusalem made Richard accept the title of Crusader. The Pope intervened in the dispute to reconcile the English and French monarchs and urge them to go on a new crusade instead of war with each other. 21 January 1188, the kings came together for a meeting in the forest near the town of Gisors. Here they exchanged the "kiss of peace" and vowed that they would march with the troops to the East. And Richard made such an oath even earlier. In all the churches of France and England, it was announced that special “Saladin tithing” had been collected to equip a new crusade.

However, Richard was immediately impeded by a baronial rebellion in Poitou and the struggle against Raymund of Toulouse. Richard rushed to tame the recalcitrant vassals. In this war, he acted completely independently of both his father and Philip II, which caused discontent of both. He did not take revenge on the obedient barons - he only took a word from them to go to the Holy Land to fight the “infidels.” Again the papal throne called for peace. November 18 The 1188 of the year in Bowlen met Heinrich, Richard and Philip. The French king insistently offered Henry II to transfer to full possession of Richard Poitou, Touraine, Anjou and to confirm his rights to the English crown. Henry II refused: “If common sense has not left me, it’s not today that he will receive this gift.” Richard, having lost patience, knelt before Philip II, declaring himself a vassal "for Normandy, Poitiers, Anjou, Maine, Berry and Toulouse" and praying for help and protection of his rights. Enraged, Heinrich left the room immediately: Richard and the French king left together.

The war continued. Together with Philip II, Richard again led the war against the old Henry and now for months pursued his father through the cities and castles of his French possessions. One by one, the cities submitted to Richard and Philip: and finally Heinrich asked for peace, promising all sorts of concessions subject to the inviolability of his “life, honor and crown”. So, only 4 July 1189, the final peace was concluded, after which the kings of England and France were to go on a crusade. Heinrich was so depressed and ill that he accepted all the conditions dictated to him, including the recognition of Richard as his heir in England, Normandy and Anjou. The contracting parties vowed not to avenge those of their vassals, "who changed and supported the enemy." When Henry II made such an oath and demanded from the winners a list of his entourage, who changed him, in the first place he found the name of his favorite, the younger son John. This finally broke King Heinrich. 6 July 1189, Henry II died. Richard became king of England and Normandy.

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Henry II and Philip Augustus take the cross for the Third Crusade

Crusade

It is worth noting that the new English monarch was little interested in his royal duties, having spent no more than half a year in the next years in 10 in England. In London itself, the English king visited only two times, and then not for long. The knight-king immediately began to prepare for a campaign in the Holy Land.

For nearly nine decades, the kingdom of Jerusalem, created after the First Crusade, already existed. In the middle of the XII century, when Muslims fought off some of the cities they had conquered from the Christians, a second crusade followed. But in October, 1187, the Sultan of Saladin (Salah ad-Din) defeated the Christian army and captured the King of Jerusalem, Guido Lusignan himself. All Christian shrines were again in the hands of the “infidels”, and Europe began to move. Three of the most powerful European rulers responded to the call of Pope Clement III - Richard I the Lionheart, the German Emperor Frederick I Barbarossa (Redbeard) and the French king Philip II. All of them were talented and experienced commanders, rulers of the most important lands in Western Europe. In 1189, many noble and ignorant warriors were on their way to Palestine or had already reached the walls of the Acre fortress on the shores of the Mediterranean, where a large army of crusaders gathered. From the north went the fleet with the militia of the Swedes, the Norwegians and the Danes. The German Emperor Frederick I led his army by land - through the lands of Byzantium, over the mountains and the hot plains of Asia Minor.

Richard I began his rule in England by collecting money. On the equipment of the troops, he completely let the royal treasury, which remained in London, and also began to sell castles, cities and positions. Richard fully used the instructions of the pope's bull, which commanded those who were not personally involved in the crusade, to provide material assistance to the king. However, Richard interpreted it in his own way - even those who would like to go with him to the holy land, he did not take, and collected money from them. This applied, of course, only to the richest barons; those with nothing to take, joined his army.

In order to increase revenues, Richard began an audit, forcing all the authorities on the royal lands to report. Apparently, he was the first monarch in feudal Europe, which increased revenues to the treasury at the expense of trade in public office. Church feudal lords were also levied on exaction, paying for their posts and acquiring land tenure. According to Richard de Motto, Richard “with a lot of zeal eased the burden of all those who were somewhat burdened by their silver, complaining to everyone according to his taste of office and possession.” He even freed the heirs of King William I of Scotland from the vassal oath for 10 thousands of marks. At the same time, Richard secured peace in the north of England, which he needed during the crusade. As Richard admitted, he would have sold London if he had a buyer. Thus, the new king reduced the administration of the country to the collection of huge taxes to finance the war. At the same time such a war, which could not bring prosperity to the people of England.

John received almost royal authority during the absence of Richard. In December 1189, the king sailed from Dover to Normandy. He met with French King Philip Augustus to discuss the details of the upcoming campaign. Richard and Philip signed a contract in which they pledged to be faithful and help each other. At the time of the crusade, the knights of the two troops vowed not to fight among themselves. According to the contract, if one of the two kings dies during the expedition, the survivor pledged to send all the means and people of the deceased to the aid of the Holy Land. It is worth noting that, despite the fact that Richard I became the English king, his army consisted mainly of knights and warriors from the French lands subject to England. So by the origin, language, culture of his army was akin to what Philip II was to lead. But the fleet was English.

King Richard I the Lionheart and Philip began the campaign in 1190. Two armies of the crusaders reached Lyon, where they were divided: the French king went to Genoa, the English to Marseille, where the fleet from England was supposed to come. However, the ships did not arrive at the appointed time, and Richard decided to sail on ships hired in Marseille. By sea, he proceeded to Genoa, where he met with Philippe, then, moving along the Italian coast, Richard reached Salerno. In Salerno, ships from England finally arrived at the king. In September flotilla of 100 ships and 14 baroque solemnly entered the port of Messina, where King Philip was already. Here the allies were delayed by bad weather. The British decided to winter in Sicily, but the locals met the Crusaders inhospitable. Then Richard captured the city of Messina and forcibly took everything he wanted. In the spring of 1191, the English crusaders arrived in Cyprus (which had fallen earlier from the Byzantine Empire). And the Cypriots received uninvited guests without due joy. Therefore, King Richard spent a month to conquer the island. The island became a transit base for the crusaders. In addition, Richard again received gold - he sold Cyprus for 100 thousand bezanty to the Knights Templar.

At the same time, Richard married Berengaria of Navarre. The marriage of Richard and Berengaria was childless - they spent very little time together, as Richard was more concerned about the war (according to some researchers, the English king was more interested in men than women). English chronicler Richard Devizsky wrote that Berengaria was smarter than beautiful. It was a marriage of convenience: he brought the king strategic fortresses, ensured the security of the southern borders of his French possessions. Alienora Aquitaine believed that possession of Navarre, south of Aquitaine, would secure her land. This marriage also relieved Richard of the need to marry Adele. Adele French - the daughter of French King Louis VII, in the 8 years of age became the bride of Richard and sent to England. However, the father of Richard Heinrich, as soon as Adele reached puberty, made her his mistress. Therefore, Richard, despite the best efforts of Henry II, never took her for a wife.

8 June 1191, Richard entered the gulf of St. John of Acre. By that time, the Crusaders had besieged the fortress for two years, but they themselves came under the attack of the Sultan of Egypt and Syria of Saladin. It was one of the most prominent rulers and commanders of the Middle Ages. By that time, Emperor Frederick I Barbarossa was no longer alive (he drowned during the campaign). Of all his considerable troops, which went to the Holy Land from Constantinople by land, only one thousand German knights reached Acre under the command of King Frederick Schwabsky. European knighthood, gathered at Aqra, recognized Richard I as their leader. Admiring the behavior of the English king during the storming of Acre, his indomitability, the poets, who were many in the camp of the Crusaders, began to call him Richard the Lionheart.

At the same time, relations with the French king became sharply aggravated. “Kings, like their army,” witnessed the witness, split into two. When the French king conceived an attack on the city, the English king didn’t like it, and the last one was displeased by the first. The split was so great that it almost reached open fights. ” Finally, realizing that the situation was hopeless, Richard and Philip chose a panel of arbitrators from among the most distinguished and wisest associates - three from each side, pledging to obey its decisions. But the arbitrators did not manage to settle differences. They only agreed that when one king "stormed, the other pledged to defend the camp."

11 July 1191, Acre was taken. Christians solemnly entered the city. However, immediately among the crusaders began to grow discontent. The two kings divided the city and the spoils among themselves, not taking into account those who besieged Acre long before their arrival. Richard caused particular discontent. So, he immediately encountered Léopold, duke of Austria, whom he disliked as a supporter of Philip and as a relative of the Byzantine emperor. Under the mockery of those around him, Richard threw the duke’s banner from the house where he was located, and in general drove him along with his suite from the place he had chosen. Richard had no mercy for the Muslim soldiers - he ordered to ruthlessly exterminate 2700 prisoners. The fall of Acre allowed the crusaders to conquer the Mediterranean coast of Palestine without a fight. The garrisons of Haifa and Caesarea surrendered cities without resistance.


Philip Augustus and Richard the Lionheart receive the keys to Acre (1191). Miniature of the XIV century. Big French Chronicles

However, military victories did not lead to the unity of the British and French. Richard wanted to repel Jerusalem, and Philip to return home to solve French national problems. As a result, King Philip II Augustus, having earned himself the glory of the winner of the Saracens, and on the pretext of ill health, returned home. Together with him sailed and most of the French knights of the Crusaders. Anticipating the evil, Richard, remaining in the holy places, demanded from Philip II an oath that he would not attack his lands while he was on the march.

In August, 1191, King Richard the Lion-Heart, began a march on the Holy City. The path went through the city of Ascalon. Richard led the troops originally along the seashore, accompanied by a fleet. Arab cavalry constantly disturbed the Crusaders with their attacks. To protect the marching column from enemy horse archers, detachments of crossbowmen marched to the sides. The arrows of the crossbows flew further than the arrows of the horse archers, and the riders of the Egyptian Sultan's army suffered serious losses in men and horses even before a direct collision.

The decisive battle took place on September 7 1191 at Arsuf, on the coast. According to highly inflated sources, Saladin's army consisted of 300 thousand warriors. The army of the crusaders also, according to inflated data, numbered about 50 thousand people. But in any case, the forces of the Muslims were significantly superior to those of the Christians. Thousands of Muslim cavalry attacked the Christians, falling asleep with their arrows. However, the core of the army of the Crusaders - the British led by the king - held the position. Muslim cavalry suffered heavy losses in barren horse attacks and gradually lost the attacking attitude. Gradually, the initiative in the battle went to Richard. At the signal of his troops went into a common counterattack. The Saracens in disorder retreated from Arsuf. The huge sultan army lost in the battle, according to some information, 40 thousand people, and according to other, more reliable information - only a few thousand soldiers. The losses of the crusaders amounted to just 700 people. Richard in one of the episodes of the battle went ahead of the knight’s ranks with a spear in his hand and challenged the entire Muslim army. But no one went to a duel with him.

After this battle, Saladin abandoned the idea of ​​a decisive battle and switched to the scorched-earth tactics. In addition, the army of Saladin was nearby and at any time to launch a counterattack. King Richard realized that further movement to Jerusalem could be the death of his army. And he ordered to turn back halfway. All trips to Jerusalem did not lead to success. The third crusade ended with the king and the sultan concluding a truce in September 1192. Richard achieved freedom of access to shrines for Christians without paying customs duties and fees for living in Jerusalem. Saladin recognized the coastal lands of Syria and Palestine from Tire to Jaffa as Crusader possessions. Jaffa for many years became a place where the pilgrims came and waited there for permission to continue the journey to Jerusalem. Prisoners were released. The king of England himself did not dare to visit Jerusalem, feeling his guilt, since "he could not wrest it from the hands of his enemies." Thus, despite the fact that Jerusalem was not taken, the actions of Richard’s army ensured the existence of a Christian kingdom in the Holy Land for another hundred years.

Captivity. End of the board

Not having achieved a decisive victory, Richard decided to return. Rumors reached him that his younger brother, John, took the throne in England, and King Philip ruled in his lands in France. 9 October 1192, Richard the Lionheart sailed home. However, the royal ship was wrecked off the coast of Venice, and the knightly monarch was captured by Duke Leopold of Bavaria. The English king was bought by the German emperor and imprisoned in his fortress. Emperor Henry VI in Hagenau, at a specially convened meeting of spiritual and secular feudal lords, announced the list of charges against Richard. In particular, due to the actions of the English king, he lost Sicily and Apulia, claimed by his spouse, and Richard also sold and resold acutely Cyprus, without any right to do so. There were also accusations of the king in the death of Conrad of Montferrat and an attempt to kill Philip Augustus, etc. Richard denied all the accusations. As a result, the emperor demanded a ransom in 150 of thousands of marks - a two-year income of the English crown.

When Philip and John learned about the capture of Richard, they offered the German emperor a large sum of money, if only he did not release Richard. The bargaining continued until Richard was redeemed by his mother, who had enlisted the support of the papal throne. Richard was released from captivity in February 1194 after England paid a huge ransom in 150 for thousands of marks for him. They could not pay the entire amount right away, so they transferred noble hostages. Brother John confessed and was pardoned (he was even left the heir to the throne). His supporters capitulated and bought a pardon. Richard, for an amount almost equal to the size of his ransom, confirmed the independence of Scotland, receiving money for the war and depriving France of a possible ally. After that, he immediately assembled troops for war with the French king and went to Normandy, where he fought for five years.

The war with Philip on French soil was long. Richard defeated, inflicted on the French king one defeat after another. Finally, in January 1199, peace was concluded. Philip made huge concessions. The ring of possessions of the English king, converging with the lands of his allies, was narrowed around Paris. And then the French king was lucky. As soon as he made peace with Philip, the king moved on to his vassal, the viscount of Limoges Ademar (Amar).

In one of the clashes during the siege of the castle of Shal-Chabrol of the rebellious Viscount of Limoges, he was wounded by a crossbow in the shoulder. The wound was not fatal, but poorly performed surgery led to blood poisoning. It is possible that the arrow was poisoned, because by this time the European warriors had already adopted a lot of Eastern customs of warfare. Richard the Lionheart died 6 on April 1199 at the age of 41. Richard had no children, so on his deathbed he bequeathed the English crown to his brother John, the future John of the Landless.


Monument to Richard I in the courtyard of the Palace of Westminster
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  1. +7
    8 September 2017 07: 46
    I wonder which of the Samsonovs wrote this article .. By style of presentation, I can say this is not the author of the article "How the Poles of Boleslav the Brave first took Russian Kiev" ...
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      1. +3
        8 September 2017 10: 28
        I don’t know, I don’t know ... I have read a lot of Samsonov, and each time he is different ... by style ... It doesn’t happen .. maybe I'm wrong ..
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          1. +1
            8 September 2017 11: 09
            smile We will remain each in our opinion ... drinks hi
        2. +4
          8 September 2017 12: 24
          Quote: parusnik
          I don’t know, I don’t know ... I have read a lot of Samsonov, and each time he is different ... by style ... It doesn’t happen .. maybe I'm wrong ..

          It seems to me that most likely we are dealing with a compiler. I am sure that the overwhelming majority of the author’s articles are borrowings from other articles, moreover, the direct one is of the type “copy-paste”, therefore the presentation style is different and the quality of the material is different. You can try to search the network for pieces of text where this was printed. Reading this article, I had a strong feeling that "somewhere I already read it."
          In the evening I’ll try to google on the text, if possible.
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            1. +3
              8 September 2017 14: 26
              Yes, yes .. "How Poles Boleslav the Brave first took Russian Kiev" .. there is a decent piece from A. Shirokorada taken .. "Russia and Poland. A thousand-year-old vendetta" ... And another interesting point .. I have been familiar with Samsonov's articles for a long time 10 probably ... His articles were published on some resource, I don’t remember the name now .. then he positioned himself as an ardent anti-Stalinist, especially in articles about the Great Patriotic War, now I read "his" articles on this topic, where everything went. . wink
          2. +2
            8 September 2017 13: 54
            ".... most likely we are dealing with a compiler" otherwise it is plagiarism, but for the simple it ......
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        1. +2
          8 September 2017 12: 11
          he himself understood what he wrote?
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  2. ICT
    +1
    8 September 2017 09: 01
    brother John


    John?


    (All the sartirs on the foggy street are calling so far? Who heard the thread on the topic)
    1. +1
      8 September 2017 11: 39
      It seems this nickname is a latrine from the vocabulary of English convicts.
  3. +4
    8 September 2017 09: 16
    Richard was well educated (he loved music, even wrote poetry), he was handsome in appearance - tall, blue-eyed and fair-haired, a young Viking hero. Interesting that Richard could not explain with your subjects English due to his ignorance

    Interestingly, taking into account what was written, and to which, as his nationality would have been said, Richard can be attributed? By the way, it’s interesting to read Walter Scott’s “Aivengo” in English, because “Ivanhoe” (Aivengo) when reading Latin letters according to the laws of Latin phonetics is more reminiscent of a simple Ivanushka, a frequent hero of Russian fairy tales. Yes, and his younger brother Richard was called John, that's all this is not casual. By the way, as far as I understand, in those described years neither English nor French really existed, they were still in the process of creation, so to speak - this is a hint.
    1. +3
      8 September 2017 09: 57
      Quote: venaya
      Yes, even the younger brother of Richard was called John, that's all this is not casual

      Want to say the same Jewish trace? After all, the name John is Jewish.
      1. +5
        8 September 2017 10: 50
        Quote: Velizariy
        .. After all, the name John is Jewish.

        Interesting. In your opinion, it turns out that the most frequent hero of Russian fairy tales Ivanushka is actually also a Jew? Unexpected opinion. Look at my nickname, venets lived throughout the current (from the 16th century) Europe, for example, Venets still live in the province of Vendée. Even now in Turkey there is a lake with the very very ancient name "Van", which in ancient Russian means water. Among the Armenians, this lake is still considered sacred. But how many years have Armenians been there? Let me remind you: one of the first kings was called "Rus the First" and even "Rus the Second". Do not tell me, do these names not remind you? Even in Syria, Russian-language inscriptions have been found relating to the early forms of Christianity at least one and a half thousand years old, in particular the name Jesus Christ with a picture of a young man in national Russian clothes, see:
        But the Jews, they are such, always take someone else's, calling it their own, primordial. So do not pay attention, you have to get used to this for a long time, having nothing of your own, neither land, nor religion, they always appropriate everything for themselves, remember at least the natural resources of our country, if you do not believe it. So the name of the province of Van and the name of Lake Van, and indeed the name John itself - all this has purely Russian roots, though our language has fled a little for many millennia and professional crooks use it, well, it's their job, their bread, they are for it gets their obviously dirty money. Try not to fall for provocations (traps) and carefully study the past of your native land, your language, your names, and your past, then a lot of interesting things will be revealed to you.
        1. +3
          8 September 2017 11: 51
          Quote: venaya
          Let me remind you: one of the first kings was called "Rus the First" and even "Rus the Second"

          It was not Rus but Rus and there were 4 and far from the first, Rus was the first on the list ninth, the predecessor was called Sarduri and the "grandfather" Argishti, which even Zadornov did not rank among Russian names. And by the way, their reign did not end with anything remarkable ...
          Quote: venaya
          a lake with the very very ancient name "Van", which in ancient Russian language means water. For Armenians, this lake is still considered sacred.

          And translated "village, residence, inhabited place." And the Urartians, just under Ruse, called it "Arsen", the Greeks - "Tospitis"
          Quote: venaya
          Russian-language inscriptions already found in Syria

          When? Who were found? What do they look like? And in what place?
          Quote: venaya
          Venets lived throughout the present (from the 16th century) Europe

          Well, not all) Designates several tribal groups.
          The Indo-European language, like the people, was one and similar words remained in all languages ​​of modern Europe, Russia.
          Quote: venaya
          the ancient name "Van", which in ancient Russian language means water

          Water in ancient Russian, in Slavic it is -WATER
          1. +2
            8 September 2017 14: 22
            Quote: Velizariy
            Quote: venaya
            Russian-language inscriptions already found in Syria

            When? Who were found? What do they look like? And in what place? ..
            The Indo-European language, like the people, was one and similar words remained in all languages ​​of modern Europe, Russia. ..
            Water in ancient Russian, in Slavic it is - WATER

            If you are interested in examples of ancient Russian writing, by the way once it was distributed practically over the entire surface of the globe, then I inform the place and time of this find: "Mosaic of the Christian Orthodox Church "St. Cosmas and St. Damian", the city of Gerasa, Northern Jordan. Dated 553 year of a new era. (Swastika mosaic of the Christian Orthodox Church of St. Cosmas and St. Damian, Gerasa (Jerash), Northern Jordan, 553 AD)."And again:" Over the centuries, Christian leaders have constantly reformed the Christian religion, and its external and internal content has constantly changed as in the children's game of "spoiled telephone." What was the original Christianity that originated in the first centuries of a new era, modern people could not even guess. Imagine that in Jordan at the very beginning of the 1920th century archaeological excavations are being made and scientists are finding the ancient city of Gerasa, which was once part of the famous Decapolis mentioned in the Bible. And what do they find during the excavations of the ancient city of Gerasa? In XNUMX, archaeologists find this floor mosaic in it, which is full of swastikas depicted, please note ... in motion! Also on this floor mosaic there is the image of a man in a traditional Russian shirt and boots like that of Ivan Tsarevichnear the letters of the old Russian alphabet are written word CHRIST. "- Actually, the inscription itself can be. If it’s still interesting, the number of publications on this subject is increasing. For several months I tried to persuade a person to publish his report on the results of the archaeological expedition, but to no avail, apparently the time has not come yet. Now about languages: I don’t the sign “Slavic language”, apparently you had in mind “church Slavonic,” since it appeared only in the 18th century, not earlier. Hence the question is test: can you translate the term “Baden-Baden” from ancient Russian to modern and approximately what the age of the dialect for this term? Further: Specify in which year the terms appear: “Slavs”, “Europe”, “India.” According to my data, this is a fresh terminology, for example, the Rurikovichs were not Slavs at first, they were falconers, that is, admirers god of the sun, depicted as a man with the head of a falcon, hence their family coat of arms - in the form of a falling falcon .. By the way, I wonder what level of knowledge you have in the field of linguistics, in the field of linguistics of proto-languages ​​and dialects. According to my data, from publications, the minimum age of the Russian proto-language is at least 30 - 40 thousand years, possibly much more. If you have any objections, then let me know. Yes, about Luga’s, this Natsik got me completely illiterate, not competent and boundless insolence, accusing the author of articles of some kind of Hitlerism, while he himself openly propagandized what Hitler was doing. Therefore, the request is to behave culturally on the site, without offending either the authors or colleagues in the comments, otherwise there will be no mercy. More than half of my relatives died in that war, and I remember it very well and know in detail how this all happened.
            1. +1
              8 September 2017 15: 09
              Quote: venaya
              Also on this floor mosaic there is an image of a man in a traditional Russian shirt and boots like that of Ivan Tsarevich

              But nothing that he in a tunic and boots are very different from the Ivanushkins?
              Quote: venaya
              the letters of the Old Russian alphabet spell the word CHRIST

              This means what old Russian letters. Well, one thing pleases, we are still writing them))))
              Quote: venaya
              Now about languages: I don’t know "Slavic language", apparently you mean "Church Slavonic", so it appeared only in the 18th century, not earlier

              I saw a text of the 16th century as an example.
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                  8 September 2017 16: 38
                  Quote: venaya
                  for now we write in writing introduced only in 1918

                  It turns out a notorious mazayka made no earlier than 1918 if it has an inscription in modern letters?
                  Quote: venaya
                  For purposes of greater importance, the churchmen decided to come up with an artificial language already based on Serbian

                  What kind of church Slavonic is this?
                  Quote: venaya
                  needed the Greek Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate

                  But the Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats, Czechs, Macedonians were warned that the language of their worship, which they used along with the Russians from the 10th century, was introduced only in the 18th century. They don’t know, did you tell them? And then for a thousand years they have been serving in the language that they introduced only in the 18th century.
                  Quote: venaya
                  Belgrade professor assured that he found samples of Russian writing at the age of 7000 years

                  Did he show them to anyone? Can I see it?
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                    8 September 2017 16: 54
                    Quote: Velizariy
                    But the Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats, Czechs, Macedonians were warned that language of their worshipwhich they used along with Russians from the 10th century, it turns out only in the 18th century introduced.

                    What kind of nonsense is this? What year was the Bible translated? Franks, Poles, Bohemians listened to the Bible from foreigners (clergy) in Latin. The Greek Orthodox Church used both Hebrew and Greek (New Testament). Each clergyman had the opportunity to translate the Bible in his own way, but no one has ever found the Bible texts written before the end of the 16th century. Maybe you also write about the Talmud, otherwise you have some glitches on historical topics appear, this clearly pulls a psycho-religious disease. If you went to a non-religious site, then try to use real facts and not religious glitches.
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            8 September 2017 21: 56
            Quote: Velizariy
            It was not Rus but Rus and there were 4 and far from the first, Rus was the first on the list ninth, the predecessor was called Sarduri and the "grandfather" Argishti, which even Zadornov did not rank among Russian names. And by the way, their reign did not end with anything remarkable.

            Why is it ranked, and so easily Sarduri - King of the dope, Argishti - and Grisha? laughing
      2. +1
        8 September 2017 11: 44
        the Jewish trace? After all, the name John is Jewish
        But shaw did you think? Yes Yohanan- Yahweh is great- and derivatives- Ivan, John all went from that.
      3. +3
        8 September 2017 12: 13
        Quote: Velizariy
        Quote: venaya
        Yes, even the younger brother of Richard was called John, that's all this is not casual

        Want to say the same Jewish trace? After all, the name John is Jewish.

        I already had the honor to argue with venaya just about Samsonov’s work. In general, it was not as interesting as expected, I am disappointed. A person is sincerely convinced of the truth of several pseudo-historical theories, and his conviction is mainly based on the phonetic similarity of different words in different languages, and haplogroups, where without them ... As a result, you will find out that all of the achievements of progress humanity owes to the Russians, everywhere were Russians everything from Lisbon to Shanghai was built by Russians (or Russians, I haven’t learned its terminology) and, if you mind, you run into a couple of insults or a bit of rudeness.
        In short, I do not recommend it. negative
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          8 September 2017 12: 18
          Quote: Luga
          In short, I do not recommend it.

          Yes yes) He just called me a fascist and religious fanatic))))
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            8 September 2017 13: 02
            Quote: Velizariy
            Quote: Luga
            In short, I do not recommend it.

            Yes yes) He just called me a fascist and religious fanatic))))

            Okay, not a toad or an earthworm wink
            Already read. Sorry, warned late sad
            smile
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            8 September 2017 13: 24
            That you easily got off. I was accused together with the Russian Academy of Sciences of the collapse of the history of Russia. Until now, from the consciousness of my own power I can’t recover.
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              8 September 2017 13: 42
              But many here sacredly believe in the writings about hyperarians and thank the authors for the fact that they conveyed to them the true history of the Rus, the Ros, the one that you so carefully, together with the Russian Academy of Sciences, ruined. And they do not even pay attention to the fact that the content of one article contradicts another! In one it is written that tartaria populated by hyperruses has been building up the planet for millions of years, and in another article, it tells about tribes of various people living in the European part of Russia 10 to 11 centuries ago, who for centuries formed peoples, etc., etc. P.
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                8 September 2017 13: 56
                What to do, demand inevitably gives rise to supply. For many, the tales of past Hyperborean greatness and the explanation of their current situation by the machinations of the world behind the scenes, which destroyed greatness, replace the need not only to think, but to do something useful in general. This fits very well with the modern trend, which says that the less productive the brain works, the more the individual is controlled. Since the brain cannot be completely turned off, you need to load it with some kind of “white noise” like a superethnos.
                So the authors are least contented with content. The main thing is that they pay money.
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                  8 September 2017 14: 15
                  Quote: Curious
                  This fits very well with the modern trend, which says that the less productive the brain works, the more the individual is controlled

                  So then it is, but the vector of all these Aryans is clearly directed and in all their varieties it is one. It is that the Church is to blame for their present non-magnitude! And the Romanov Dynasty noticed the traces, by the way, and their Ukrainian "colleagues" too. It turns out the "white noise" in their heads is not just a hindrance, it determines their purpose. One would think that people with a limited intellect, to put it mildly, are infected with such ideas, but I also met teachers in higher educational institutions, one of them is an elderly professor, though the professor proves that the Hyperboreans of a different nationality, not Russian, but the one he refers to , one Finno-Ugric, so it’s even funnier there than the protorus! But no one touches him. And the Church is also responsible for the loss of the greatness of his people!
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                    8 September 2017 14: 56
                    Nevertheless, I would single out Rodnoverie as a separate trend. The most interesting thing is that the Church completely ignores these movements. It’s once seen.
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                      8 September 2017 15: 19
                      Quote: Curious
                      I would still highlight Rodnoveria as a separate trend

                      One of the other follows or go together. But usually from the beginning a person is ariézed and then goes into Rodnoverie.
                      Quote: Curious
                      The church completely ignores these movements

                      They are not dangerous to her. There are more serious challenges. And this was created for non-church people, atheists, and other connecting rods and not one Christian, a real one, who in the church will not be flattered by this and will not even be interested. Therefore, this is not a problem. This "trend" is aimed at those who are called "without a king in the head" and those who want to be very great and, most importantly, special.
                      This should be done by the state.
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                        8 September 2017 19: 08
                        I see you have come off to the full with venaya ... good
                        What are your impressions of the discussion? I enjoyed reading, accept my gratitude - the gratitude of the fascist, Russophobe, foreigner, illiterate and incompetent Natsik and other, other, other, if, of course, you do not disgust ...
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                8 September 2017 19: 29
                You, dear citizens, all finely swam. I’m so with Venik, in general, an English spy, leading by the nose both the FSB of the Russian Federation and the FSB of my Penza region. You don’t carry bucks suitcases home from the islands ?! And I drive! Stirlitz is resting next to me!
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    8 September 2017 14: 41
    "Perhaps the arrow was sent." I read on our website that archers practiced shooting at targets that were sculpted from their feces. Arrows at that time were "reusable goods" and the shooter after the "execution" of feces could use such an arrow to protect the castle.
    So that after the toilet you need to wash your hands, and even poison yourself. Joke.
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        8 September 2017 19: 14
        he was wounded by a crossbow arrow in his shoulder.

        Yeah. What are the feces, however? The crossbow arrow was shorter and thicker than usual. It got into the joint or not, but it should have been torn apart by a solid piece of tissue. 41 year, in itself a solid age for that time, and even with his active life, which means the body was quite worn out. With such a solid wound, the immune system simply could not cope.
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          8 September 2017 20: 17
          In 2014, Scientific Reports had an article about this.
          The fact is that after the death of the king, his body was dismembered - a common practice for the aristocracy of the Middle Ages. The king's entrails were buried in Chalet, a town near Limoges in central France. The rest of his body was buried in the north at Fontevro Abbey, and his heart was embalmed and buried in the cathedral of Notre Dame in Rouen.
          The condition of the remains did not allow scientists to find out the cause of death, but the team was able to exclude the theory that Richard I was killed by a poisoned arrow. Researchers were also able to learn more about the methods used to preserve the legendary heart.
          Full article: http://www.km.ru/science-tech/2013/03/05/issledov
          aniya-rossiiskikh-i-zarubezhnykh-uchenykh / 705408-
          uchenye-researched
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      8 September 2017 19: 01
      Quote: Monarchist
      "Perhaps the arrow was sent."

      Richard I died from a crossbow arrow fired, as is considered by the knight Pierre Bazil, who was executed for this after the death of the king. As usual, in history, there are other names that claim to be the laurels of the killer Richard, but most researchers agree that it was Pierre Bazil, and all sources agree that the arrow was exactly a crossbow.
      I even read somewhere that Pierre Bazil was a talented engineer and himself designed the very crossbow, which was more long-range and accurate, especially in order to hit Richard. However, this is most likely a romantic fiction.
      Have you joked about feces, I hope?
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        8 September 2017 19: 37
        No, of course, this was my article and it is based on data from English history. And who, if not me, the English spy, should know. Cool guys, "put" and sculpted from this target "sortir" in Old Norwegian. In the area of ​​Denlo - Danish law, competitions of shooters took root. And people were shouting “outhouse” as we shout “puck”. After the conquest of England in 1066, the word became French - "outhouse." But the competitions were noble ladies. , sorry, it was indecent in their eyes. And the shooters made booths. When the archer was late, they shouted to him: “take out the toilet!” And he endured. Then ... the word began to mean the booth itself. There is even an excerpt from Robin Hood in Old English, where it is signed in detail.
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          8 September 2017 20: 15
          Quote: kalibr
          No, of course, this was my article and it is based on data from English history.

          Are you kidding me now?
          In my holy naivety, after studying the French language in high school, I believed that the word “toilet” is a derivative of the same-name verb, one of the meanings of which is “to rake out”, “to bear”, or, to say, a cesspool.
          The world will never be the same for me ...
          You can dazzle a clay target, shoot at boards, baskets there, pork carcasses, finally ... No, after all, we will shoot at r ... well, shoot at our own, fresh, cobbled together with our own hands ...
          Although ... The target could symbolize the enemy and to show all the enemy’s insignificance ... Somehow it turns out tense and is suitable only for very archaic cultures ...
          Or ... The quality (at first it was sealed up, wrote "crap quality", also nothing) of the chair was an admission to competitions, like, you can blind - you participate. No - take a walk, gain strength or recover, if it’s completely fluid ... No, also somehow far-fetched, artificially ...
          Or maybe it’s such a ritual - with your own hand to destroy everything that is stinking in yourself, piercing it with an arrow, so to speak, to improve yourself. Or so evil spirits were banished ...
          Everything is confused.
          One thing I can say - in ancient times, of course, the people were wonderful, I admit that this could happen, but ... I respect your status as an English spy, I envy suitcases with dollars or pounds, but ... somehow I can’t believe it. Raffle it.
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            8 September 2017 20: 31
            Material about the use of ... in the process of learning archery is also found in other places (https://www.pravda.ru/science/useful/22-03-2013/
            1149522-melnitsa-0 /). However, the source is not indicated anywhere.
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            8 September 2017 21: 26
            I can’t know if a rally or not. Once upon a time, a very long time ... I received photocopiers from D.Nikol of his articles and clippings of materials from the magazines of Medieval Histori. There it was, but ... I do not remember the name of the material, nor the author. It was enough for me then that Nicole sent. Oh, oh, Nicole himself! And I didn’t really turn around who wrote. This I later began to know all British historians and distinguish who writes what. So, alas, I will not name the source. It was a long time ago. In the year it’s 99th ... if not earlier.
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          8 September 2017 20: 21
          And you could not indicate the source. Maybe respected English historians there and the meaning of this sacred perversion. Or was it a sort of qualifying stage - we are not allowed to enter the competition like drunks?
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            8 September 2017 21: 29
            There was a saying: "a good king feeds his archers well." That is a lot of bread, ale and meat. That is, they put it tight. So it was convenient to sculpt. This is not a modern soft chemical chair, but a peasant coolly decorated, pah. In fact, he himself saw this ... in childhood under the bushes. I thought - this is it .... Now it does not occur! The genesis of manure in nature ha ha!
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              8 September 2017 21: 30
              There are no questions about the quality. The meaning of the process?
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                9 September 2017 12: 49
                It didn’t explain, it was just that way! And why?
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                  2 October 2017 14: 26
                  Quote: kalibr
                  And why not?

                  Just barbarians ... Well laid, well, well, well done well-fed king ... But sculpt something from this ... ahhh ... tfeee ... barbarians.
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          10 September 2017 23: 10
          I, as a representative of the Mossad, of course I will not dispute the opinion of the esteemed colleague from MI-6, but I always believed that the French "sortie", as well as the Catalan "sortida", means - "exit". The above material, for the manufacture of targets is called the word "merde".
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