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Russia goes to the East

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In the 60 Minutes program, one minor liberal nevertheless raised a question that is becoming increasingly relevant in connection with the events around North Korea: Russia with China or with the United States and Europe?


Russia goes to the East


And who can Russia be in such a situation in the Far East: with America, which is thousands of kilometers away and intends to bomb North Korea, or with China, who claims that it will not allow chaos on the Korean Peninsula? At our borders, by the way.

Is it possible with America, in which the legitimately elected President Donald Trump is under the threat of impeachment for political reasons, against which false accusations are fabricated “for ties with Russia”? Is it really a country that cannot be trusted with anything at all if it treats its president like that? Really with the United States and the West, who are some kind of natural liars towards Russia: for centuries they have tirelessly created from Russia the image of an aggressive enemy, and then invade Russia by millions of armies?

We are witnesses of the lies of the USA and the West about guarantees to foreign leaders, from Milosevic to Yanukovych, the global lies of ex-president Barack Obama that missile defense in Europe is not directed against Russia, the lies of the USA about weapons mass destruction in Iraq, and now they claim that North Korea allegedly threatens South Korea, Japan and the United States itself. Or is it exactly the opposite?

The course of political events, starting with the Bandera coup in Kiev, the Crimea and the Donbass, and ending with North Korea, simply pushes Russia to the East, into the arms of China and other more or less independent countries from the West. The St. Petersburg Economic Forum is complemented by the Eastern in Vladivostok, and it is already difficult to say which one is the main one for Russia.

In general, the amazing country is North Korea: this small "people's democratic republic" puts the US world hegemon in place, which, of course, is an example for other countries, and it is most of all frightening the American hegemon, so we see such hysteria in Washington. North Korea, and not Russia or China at all, is destroying the myth of the military omnipotence of the United States ...

As for Europe ... Expert Evgeny Satanovsky, after the "invasion of migrants" in Europe, spoke out in the sense that historical in scale, the event will either destroy, through a series of bloody transformations, the Europe we are accustomed to, or lead to neo-Nazi power in European countries.

Indeed, Hitler's fascism, and generally fascism / Nazism in Europe at the beginning of the twentieth century, was born out of clashes between “right-wing” nationalists of all stripes and “left-wing” forces, from socialists to social democrats and communists. Today's coming of migrants to Europe is becoming a catalyst for the clashes of again “right-wing” nationalists and new “leftists”, from socialists to multiculturalists, neo-Trotsky democrats and transsexuals. As a result of such a clash, some kind of new fascism / Nazism of the 21st century may be born; it is not clear just who it will be directed against first.

In 1939, the famous German philosopher Max Horkheimer (1895-1973) made the following statement: “Fascism is the truth of modern society,” that is, not only German, but pan-European, with the exception, by and large, only of the USSR and Yugoslavia. This explains the “inexplicable” from the point of view of Western historiography, the victorious march of the countries of Western Europe: they relied everywhere on the pro-fascist “fifth columns”.

It is worth paying special attention to the fact that Adolf Hitler came to power in Germany with a company of Nazis in a democratic way! Today, history repeats itself almost literally, Europe, in company with America, is returning to the circles of the twentieth century, with the confrontation of the "right" and "left" in a large-scale socio-political crisis. Western democracy is preparing for the next birth ...

In such a situation, Russia needs to go to the East, pushing from its side from the Crimea and the Donbass as a Rubicon, dividing it with the West, if only because in the East there is more elementary stability and decency. And an order of magnitude more responsible and sane state leaders.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 8 September 2017 16: 01
    +1
    GO OST - RUSSIA !!!!!!
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 9 September 2017 07: 22
      +2
      Russia has always been and is and will be. We are few, but no one will drive us out of there - this is my slogan.
      ps Something happened to you with the Russian keyboard layout?
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 9 September 2017 09: 31
      +1
      What is the article about? request As for thousands of kilometers to America, it’s nothing from us through the Bering Strait. what
      1. vp90
        vp90 10 September 2017 12: 21
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        What is the article about? request As for thousands of kilometers to America, it’s nothing from us through the Bering Strait. what

        the first four words and you can no longer read.
  2. Pan_hrabio
    Pan_hrabio 8 September 2017 16: 02
    +5
    You can write in articles anything. Decisions will still be made by people who care about our opinion. And judging by the current situation, I would not have expected that Russia would take any principled position on this issue.
  3. maxim1987
    maxim1987 8 September 2017 16: 04
    +1
    robust article. The main thing in the East is not to show slack and then it will be possible to build equal, not partner (fie) relations hi
    1. Klaus
      Klaus 8 September 2017 20: 31
      +5
      Russia's economy is 15 times smaller than the Chinese. The population of Russia is 10 times smaller than the Chinese. The history of statehood and traditions in Russia is 3,5 times smaller than the Chinese. What equal relations can be in this situation ??? Which, in general, is also evident from the dynamics of growth in the volume of trade. About the "Power of Siberia" we have only talk and puffing on the TV. Technology - now we no longer have China from us, but we take from them ... a disgrace. True, there remained a small segment in the military-industrial complex, where we are still giving a head start, but China is rapidly catching up with the backlog, and I think that within 10 years it will break out into the lead.
      China is a very difficult, stubborn and cunning "partner", before which we have ZERO advantages. Think about it.
      1. Victor Kamenev
        8 September 2017 21: 04
        +3
        Everything is known in comparison with the United States, for example, China does not threaten missile defense, and the ceilings in diplomatic missions do not reveal. And in space, the station does not create yet, but speaks of friendship with Russia. Feel the difference...
        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 8 September 2017 21: 36
          +3
          And he’s not creating a station in space yet,

          You are mistaken. China not so long ago launched its Tiangong-2 space station seems called.
        2. Black5Raven
          Black5Raven 11 September 2017 22: 16
          +1
          Quote: Victor Kamenev
          China does not threaten us with missile defense, and does not open the ceilings in diplomatic missions. And he has not yet created a station in space, but speaks of friendship with Russia. Feel the difference...

          The Chinese will lick the heels while the other hand will pour poison into the socks.
          China is not a friend of Russia.
      2. Mood Ozvon
        Mood Ozvon 9 September 2017 04: 11
        +2
        About the economy, and about the population, too.
        The Russian economy is 2,7 percent of the world (from memory, I could be wrong), what, the Chinese economy is 40 percent of the world or what?
        The population is 9 times less, and not 10.
        If you write like this, then no one can cooperate with China on an equal footing, not a single country in the world laughing
        1. Klaus
          Klaus 9 September 2017 15: 31
          +1
          Soryan. Wrong. Yes indeed,. looked at the volume. so - once in 5-6, less in terms of GDP. Yes, and the annual growth rate is also somewhere.
      3. Seraphimamur
        Seraphimamur 9 September 2017 06: 28
        0
        And what are our advantages over America or Germany? What to give up and get choked?
    2. Alex1117
      Alex1117 9 September 2017 16: 11
      0
      And in the West, you can show slack? And showing weakness in the West, you can have an equal relationship?
  4. irazum
    irazum 8 September 2017 16: 16
    +2
    Especially in North Korea, the leader is "responsible" and, which is characteristic, "sane."
    1. Victor Kamenev
      8 September 2017 16: 45
      +6
      However, smarter than Miloseviche and Yanukovych combined, not to mention Gaddafi and others ..
      1. 5:0
        5:0 8 September 2017 19: 21
        +2
        Of course he’s smart, he doesn’t face hunger, he doesn’t need to ask permission to travel from city to city, he doesn’t watch TV and the Internet is not Korean “cheburashka”, and he and his company will not suffer sanctions. As they say - “No, son, you’ll eat it less. "After all, even though there are stones from the sky, if only the great leader was in order.
        1. Victor Kamenev
          8 September 2017 21: 06
          +2
          A simple American from some Dakota is not like Trump, and doesn't have golf clubs, where is the democracy, one wonders?
          1. 5:0
            5:0 8 September 2017 21: 28
            +3
            Will we compare the living standards of the average American and the average North Korean? I’m not even going to talk about grubbing, rags and cars - a resident of Juchenia needs to ask permission from the authorities to go even to a neighboring city. And not the fact that they will. And also fixed settings in the radios and if they find it with the free - camp. With TV - it’s clear, the same thing - a couple of local channels, endless praise to the father of the dearest and greatest of the great and frantic barking towards the proscorious imperialists without the permission of the authorities, "sombun" (your status from birth and for life) and other delights. Would you like to live like this? Yes, would you scream in horror in a day like that.
            1. igorj 51
              igorj 51 8 September 2017 21: 42
              +1
              Will we compare the standard of living of the average American and the average North Korean?

              And why not compare with the average Martian ..? Or what, in all other countries of the world people live just like in the USA ..?
              I won’t even talk about grubbing, rags and cars - a resident of Juchenia even needs to ask permission to go to a neighboring city. And it’s not a fact that they will.

              Have you been there yourself, talked with the locals ..? if not, how do you know such details ..? just do not here refer to the "free and democratic media" ..
              1. 5:0
                5:0 8 September 2017 22: 57
                +1
                No, not the media at all (although I also read Russian bloggers, but it's still not an inside look). The thing is that my nephew works in a high-tech company that works closely with Samsung, he develops a mathematical algorithm for new devices (any digital device begins with this), he goes to South Korea on business trips very often, where he works with Korean engineers and spoke a lot about different things, and some of them, in turn, personally know the defectors from the DPRK ( who succeeded) and told something about it. So the information is “from the inside.” By the way, it is not necessary to compare with the United States, it is also possible with the USSR, which, in comparison with the DPRK, looked like some kind of democracy orgy.
                1. igorj 51
                  igorj 51 9 September 2017 08: 38
                  +1
                  No, not the media at all (although I also read Russian bloggers, but still this is not an inside look).

                  Ah ... Russian bloggers are the same .. They know everything .. From the inside, especially in such a closed country as the DPRK ... :)))
                  The thing is that my nephew works in a high-tech company that works closely with Samsung, he develops a mathematical algorithm for new devices there (any digital device starts with this), he goes to South Korea on business trips very often. he works with Korean engineers and talked a lot about different things with them, and some of them, in turn, personally know the defectors from the DPRK (who succeeded) and told something about it. So the information is “from the inside”.

                  I see .. The nephew goes on business trips to South Korea, there he talks with South Korean engineers, they, in turn, talk with the defectors and the North, or, supposedly, the defectors .. And all this, in your opinion, is called "an inside look" ..? But I naively thought that the view from the inside is to go to this country myself, at least as a tourist, and see what is called with my own eyes what is there and how .. But it turns out that this is not so. That the “inside look” is information through third or even fifth hands, figuratively speaking, and even from such dubious sources as defectors from the North ...
                  By the way, it is not necessary to compare with the USA, it is also possible with the USSR, which in comparison with the DPRK looked like some kind of democracy orgy.

                  Interesting terminology for you .. Just now the United States is the very orgy of democracy, especially if you look at what is happening there inside the country ...
            2. cariperpaint
              cariperpaint 8 September 2017 21: 54
              +2
              or maybe it's still their troubles ah? their life?
            3. Seraphimamur
              Seraphimamur 9 September 2017 06: 31
              +1
              Purely Jewish reasoning: everything is measured with trepidation and grub. And the nickname is the same nickel divided by a point.
    2. igorj 51
      igorj 51 8 September 2017 19: 48
      +2
      Especially in North Korea, the leader is "responsible" and, which is characteristic, "sane."

      At least much more sane than the president of the United States.
      1. 5:0
        5:0 8 September 2017 21: 31
        +3
        Yes, yes, of course. And we wouldn’t like to live with such a “sensible” one to ask permission from the authorities for a trip to a neighboring city (and not the fact that they will), listen to the sealed radio with fixed settings, camp for the slightest crooked word addressed to the great leader and other pleasures of this kind? You would have lived in the Korean province for an hour like an average Korean - in an hour you would have screamed in horror.
        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 8 September 2017 21: 44
          +2
          Yes, yes, of course. And we wouldn’t like to live with such a “sensible” one to ask permission from the authorities for a trip to a neighboring city (and not the fact that they will), listen to the sealed radio with fixed settings, camp for the slightest crooked word addressed to the great leader and other pleasures of this kind? You would have lived in the Korean province for an hour like an average Korean - in an hour you would have screamed in horror.

          and you must assume you yourself lived in a North Korean province if you so authoritatively assure us here of this ..?
          1. 5:0
            5:0 8 September 2017 23: 01
            +1
            Read my answer on this topic a little higher.
        2. cariperpaint
          cariperpaint 8 September 2017 21: 55
          +2
          and in Africa, some tribes still live as in the Stone Age, and why? Well, such a life suits them.
          1. 5:0
            5:0 8 September 2017 23: 02
            +2
            And why you, for example, are not satisfied?
            1. cariperpaint
              cariperpaint 8 September 2017 23: 17
              +2
              mine suits me completely. but it never crossed my mind to blame them for not living right.
              1. 5:0
                5:0 9 September 2017 00: 15
                +1
                Are you sure that such a life suits them?
                1. cariperpaint
                  cariperpaint 9 September 2017 00: 43
                  +1
                  not sure. but it's up to them and not to me.
                  1. Mood Ozvon
                    Mood Ozvon 9 September 2017 04: 17
                    0
                    cariperpaint
                    Exactly, I agree how they live this internal affair of the North Koreans.
                    1. 5:0
                      5:0 9 September 2017 06: 27
                      +5
                      Deciding how they live is God’s business, not theirs. Nobody is going to ask them. Someone once thought that the Cambodians really like living under Pol Pot,
                      1. Mood Ozvon
                        Mood Ozvon 9 September 2017 16: 16
                        0
                        God-like is their choice, I don’t like to overthrow him for a long time. Every nation has the power that he himself created. Have you climbed into Iraq, have the Iraqis become better? So you don’t need to go to North Korea. Pol Pot, by the way, was overthrown by Vietnamese, Americans, Padi they were against - they didn’t always give a damn about people, lycimers and cynics.
                  2. 5:0
                    5:0 9 September 2017 06: 25
                    +1
                    They might have decided differently, only nobody is going to ask them.
                2. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 9 September 2017 01: 45
                  +5
                  Quote: 5: 0
                  Are you sure that such a life suits them?

                  Rabinovich, can life in Israel unsettle you? You are trimming here, only where is Israel, where is Korea, we will give you instructions too laughing Here is not a fan of Juche and any Kims, but you can respect them, they don’t lick the same whales, on the contrary, whales whine from them. Well, well, you lick on for iPhones and other nishtyaki. Yes, and by the way, this Samsung does shit, after 2 weeks the microphone has already covered itself, and it’s constantly heating up, I would have tapped on a pumpkin who did it and is developing all kinds of mathematical algorithms so that my hands fall into place. feel
                  1. 5:0
                    5:0 9 September 2017 07: 14
                    +4
                    Firstly, I have never been Rabinovich. Secondly, life is absolutely fine with me, but at VO people just share their opinions on various issues. As for the people, you can only feel sorry for him - no one asks about anything .And in general, it is better as the South Koreans to "lick" and live like people for their pleasure and with all human rights, and not to vegetate completely disenfranchised draft animals, which have no influence on their "sombun" for life. There, of course, the president I’m not sacred - they uncovered unseemly things - and they arranged an impeachment for him. And they won’t put him in the camp for a torn portrait, of course, they are far from the Juche people. Yes, you have to buy original Samsung things, not cheap Chinese fakes, then there will be no complaints . I have enough of their devices and so far there have been no complaints.
                    1. vovanpain
                      vovanpain 9 September 2017 11: 26
                      +3
                      Quote: 5: 0
                      First of all, I’ve never been Rabinovich.

                      C'mon, one to one, you sing the same praises. Well, not Rabinovich.
                      Quote: 5: 0
                      Secondly, life absolutely suits me, but at VO people just share their opinions on various issues.

                      So maybe both Korea are satisfied? Didn’t think about it? And your opinion of course is important.
                      Quote: 5: 0
                      As for the people, you can only feel sorry for him - no one asks him for anything

                      I agree with you, but the answer is above, whether you personally asked them or not, the words of your relative and there are no counts for any fugitives. You can say a lot, have you seen it yourself? yes
                      Quote: 5: 0
                      Yes, and you need to buy original Samsung things, and not cheap Chinese fakes, then there will be no complaints. I have enough of their devices and so far there have been no complaints.

                      Yes, and it was bought in my own SAMSUNG store, so I looked into the seller’s eyes, he realized that he was wrong and replaced the product with a gift with an apology. It still works. yes Chinese HUAWEY is doing worse now.
                      1. 5:0
                        5:0 9 September 2017 13: 20
                        +3
                        Well, about devices - a matter of taste. At least in Israel, Samsung is very popular and reviews about its products are very good. Although no one is safe from accidental marriage, of course. I don’t think about what suits both Koreas. And why would defectors lie? I really believe them rather than admiring their "independence." From common sense. After all, those enthusiastic ones have never been there (who was - only in authorized places and under the tight guardianship of their "guides" who are assigned to any foreigner. They live the same way they live in prison - and wherever you go from there, and there is their own life. For many people, the notion of the DPRK is naive and romantic. Like, the freedom-loving people, though not very satisfying, live very happily, etc. Actually, this is the same Mordor. Yes, Pyongyang and the rest of the DPRK are incomparably worse than Moscow and the rest of Russia. Living in Pyongyang in general is a very big privilege. But they live in the province, as was said, and they live in prison, and where to get to. Another thing is that you can’t help them in any way, but cheat The outpouring of the "proud and independent" is very sad.
                    2. igorj 51
                      igorj 51 9 September 2017 14: 41
                      +1
                      As for the people, one can only feel sorry for him - no one asks him for anything.

                      And how do you even know how they are asking people there or not? Or do you just think so and therefore say that this is so ..?
                      .And in general it’s better as the South Koreans to “lick” and live like people for their pleasure and with all human rights,

                      It is clear .. i.e. the main thing for you is to live in abundance, and it doesn’t matter that for this someone will have to "lick" .. I understand you correctly ..? then the question is, why did your proud Jewish people want an independent state and did not stay to live where they lived before, no worse than at least in other countries and at the same time "lick" the other owners ..? As for South Korea and "human rights" .. you personally would like to live in a country where in order to register, say on the same site as VO, you need to indicate your passport data so that the security services can control everything that you write. And if you suddenly write something wrong, you will be prosecuted. You personally would like to live in a country where a working day is 12-14 hours a day, and even after it ends if your boss is delayed for some reason at work, you have no right to leave work earlier than he does. For it is considered disrespect for the chief and is punished by dismissal. And in case of dismissal, you will be given the appropriate description with which you will not get a decent job anymore. Would you like to live in a country in which ANY let's say listening to North Korean music on YouTube, say the girls' ensemble "Moranbon" where the girls really really play very well including Western music and without punishment is punishable by criminal prosecution, conditional or even real .. Or say for words in a comment on the Internet that Kim has a young and really beautiful wife, YOU can also be prosecuted .. Under the National Security Act. Do you think this is all human rights and freedoms ..? If yes, then you are welcome to live in South Korea ..
                      Yes, and you need to buy original Samsung things, and not cheap Chinese fakes, then there will be no complaints. I have enough of their devices and so far there have been no complaints.

                      Those. for the sake of beautiful things, you are personally ready to endure everything. Including abuse of your human rights and freedoms about which you write here ..? Then again I repeat, you are welcome to live in South Korea ...
                      1. 5:0
                        5:0 9 September 2017 16: 24
                        0
                        You write frank nonsense. Once again, my nephew spent about six months in Korea and knows for sure what kind of life is there. Most of the things you wrote about RK are stupid things. Regarding "independence", the DPRK is independent only of common sense. By the way, are you aware of the North Korean order - for example, that to move from one settlement to another the ordinary Korean needs permission from the authorities, that you can only listen to sealed receivers with fixed settings, that if you accidentally tear the portrait of the Sun-like - for this camp and many other delights? And yes - it’s better to "lick" (but in fact, just being friends and allies and enjoying freedom and human rights than being in the position of a zombie draft animal. By the way, not so long ago in the Republic of Kazakhstan they arranged for the impeachment of the president, it is impossible to do what the left leg wants to do there. Why simpler - if the DPRK is such a good and free country, let Eun open the borders to leave. Only to leave. What should he be afraid of, because the North Koreans adore the damned Western imperialists do not want to know their power and know. But no, for some reason they don’t want to.
                3. igorj 51
                  igorj 51 9 September 2017 14: 25
                  +1
                  Are you sure that such a life suits them?

                  Are you sure that does not suit ..? But in any case, as they have already said here, it is up to them to decide, but not for you and not for us, and especially not for the Americans.
  5. iouris
    iouris 8 September 2017 19: 40
    0
    Comrades, Zinoviev, Kamenev, comrades! All remain in their places, otherwise everything will be scattered, as in 1991. Russia should still be assembled: Crimea alone is not enough.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      8 September 2017 21: 07
      0
      Moscow was not built in a day...
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 9 September 2017 01: 14
        +1
        Quote: Victor Kamenev

        0
        Viktor Kamenev Yesterday, 21:07 ↑ New
        Moscow was not built in a day...

        Yeah ...
      2. iouris
        iouris 9 September 2017 14: 30
        0
        Here I am about the same. This is called an "algorithm." You can’t start moving without completing the system, and even put the cart in front of the horse.
  6. Doliva63
    Doliva63 8 September 2017 20: 28
    +8
    "... in the East there is more elementary stability and decency."
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    ______________________
    Well, the author has bent! What decency when everything is decided by money ?! And stability is there as long as it is beneficial to the same States. K. Prutkov used to say: don’t go with the flow, don’t swim against the current - go where you need to. This is to the question of where to go.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      8 September 2017 21: 09
      +2
      In the East, the ceilings in diplomatic missions do not open, because culture does not allow, but cowboys ...
      1. 5:0
        5:0 8 September 2017 21: 38
        +2
        In the east, if you really want to, they’ll just come and kill or shoot. Culture :)))
        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 8 September 2017 21: 47
          0
          In the east, if you really want to, they’ll just come and kill or shoot. Culture :)))

          You can think in the west they do not cut or shoot anyone. especially in the States that you put to us as an example. Do not bother us to give statistics how many people are killed there daily ..? They are cultural ....
          1. 5:0
            5:0 9 September 2017 00: 19
            +2
            In fact, it was about embassies, so the statistics here will not be in favor of the East.
  7. askme
    askme 8 September 2017 20: 43
    +1
    The world now is one enormous single melting pot, and not some kind of formation fragmented along the borders of states. Borders are very arbitrary these days. Through them, informational, financial global flows and so on freely and powerfully flow. There is no need to “go away" somewhere - either to the West, or to the East. Especially Russia. The peculiarity of the boiler is that as the temperature and pressure in it increase, only the hardest, sound entities remain, and everything else turns into soup ...
    1. Victor Kamenev
      8 September 2017 21: 10
      0
      However, there is NATO, so there will be anti-NATO.
      1. askme
        askme 9 September 2017 01: 10
        +1
        Yes, in one boiler, and not in different ...
    2. igorj 51
      igorj 51 8 September 2017 21: 50
      0
      The peculiarity of the boiler is that as the temperature and pressure in it increase, only the hardest, sound entities remain, and everything else turns into soup ...

      You did not teach physics at school .. As the temperature and pressure in the boiler increase, reaching a critical value, the boiler simply explodes ..
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 8 September 2017 23: 35
        +2
        Quote: igorj 51
        As the temperature and pressure in the boiler increase, reaching a critical value, the boiler simply explodes.

        Duc, open the lid, release the park, reduce the light ... In general, control the process. yes
        1. askme
          askme 9 September 2017 01: 11
          +1
          Exactly. Everyone wants to live ....
    3. sania5791
      sania5791 9 September 2017 11: 19
      +2
      Or thieves who are closer to the Kitchen .... remain, they forgot about the 90s, how many died or drank or left, and someone just really got old. I’m silent about the 17th, 20th, 30th and 40th
      Only now all the deputies or mayors all climb and climb.
  8. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 8 September 2017 21: 13
    +2
    Russia is poorly compatible with the East. Russia should not be with anyone or serve anyone. You must always respect your interests.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 9 September 2017 01: 21
      +3
      Quote: Ken71
      Russia is poorly compatible with the East.

      Yeah. But with the West - already sticks together. laughing A country, half of which is located in Asia, does not coincide with the East. At the Far Far, sulphate will be uncorked with grief. Ooh ...
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 9 September 2017 01: 32
        +2
        And what in Asia? the population is 7,5 percent of the total 140 million and we really can’t get along with the dumps, very different mentality
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 9 September 2017 01: 54
          +4
          Quote: Nehist
          really do not fit in with the dump, very different mentality

          Again 35 ... That's the West with a "similar" mentality and strives to combine with us, yeah. From such a "combination" with a "handshake" all hands in the splinters. And why the hell for the mentality when it comes to economic (production, business) ties. Nobody urges everyone to rush and start lobbing at the gums, taking up "interpenetration." And yet: the East (and it is so different) - the concept is so capacious that in this context it means only a vector, a direction of development of activity. And the direction, for a moment, is very promising. We think wider, look a little closer, yeah. hi
          1. Nehist
            Nehist 9 September 2017 02: 37
            0
            We have been developing everything since the time of Catherine the Great, we cannot develop everything in any way. Just do not need Russia is not east or west. Throughout most of its history, Russia has been self-sufficient. But the development prospect is for Russia in the east, I don’t see us there, just like in the west, only resources are required
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 9 September 2017 09: 12
              +1
              Quote: Nehist
              Just do not need Russia is not east or west.

              Well, yours has taken ... Let's go north and south. yes yes yes Only, if all the time - to the North, then we’ll come to .. mattresses (through Canada), and to the South- we’ll also get to the East, only the Middle ... laughing laughing laughing further - only penguins. Thus, we were on the verge of a grand discovery: the Earth is round.wassat wassat wassat
        2. iouris
          iouris 9 September 2017 14: 37
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          First, the mentality. Secondly, nothing depends on your mentality. Excessive populations just need to be destroyed.
  9. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 9 September 2017 06: 41
    +1
    Asians do not climb into the soul, do not teach how to live and do not instill their morality, religion. Based on the Golden Horde, the Moscow Principality became the Russian Empire. Maybe now they will also turn to the East more productively.
  10. Gardamir
    Gardamir 9 September 2017 08: 18
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    14% of Rosneft's shares in China
    this is probably the way to the east. What is not sold The West will sell to China and Qatar.
  11. askme
    askme 9 September 2017 10: 58
    +1
    Russia is a global power. It is foolish to limit it to some kind of framework, although many from outside and inside try to do it. Russia belongs both to the West and the East and to the whole world, since it was one of the foundations in the formation of the present world. The whole world needs Russia now, and not just the West and the East. All significant world leaders on all continents speak about this directly and indirectly.
  12. Igor Pashchenko
    Igor Pashchenko 9 September 2017 12: 27
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    Our East-USSR!
  13. Igor Pashchenko
    Igor Pashchenko 9 September 2017 12: 33
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    Trump corpse, Russia is beyond power! We will dictate the rules.
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 September 2017 14: 32
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    Actually, if we ignore the financial bubbles, the real production in Russia is not at all a small amount. Not without reason, despite the rhetoric and all-round neglect in the media, when it comes to SERIOUS issues, nothing can be solved without Russia. It is the honor and they are trying to "rush" us in every way. After all, if citizens do not respect and do not like their own country, it weakens and can die ...
  15. igorj 51
    igorj 51 9 September 2017 14: 47
    +1
    5:0,
    .And why would defectors lie? Oh, I’ll believe them sooner than those who admire their “independence”

    And really, why would defectors lie? And the fact that they are all 100%, regardless of age, fall into the tenacious claws of South Korean intelligence is still a trifle, and doesn’t mean anything ..? Like if a defector escapes from his country, then he will not a priori praise her, but to pour mud, exaggerating in every way and inventing all kinds of fables, this is forever please. And not only North Korean. This applies to defectors from any country. And if you, Mr. 5: 0, prefer to believe these products of an ideological war, well, that’s your own business. Just do it without imposing your point of view on others.
  16. kig
    kig 9 September 2017 15: 43
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    In such a situation, Russia needs to go east - already leaving. Pull the pipelines and pipelines.
  17. Alexander Butakov
    Alexander Butakov 9 September 2017 19: 11
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    Russia goes to the East, liberals go to dick.
  18. Igor Pashchenko
    Igor Pashchenko 9 September 2017 19: 28
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    Hmm ... but don’t need to drive Russia somewhere, it decides where it is necessary, When for the first time it smelled of fire behind the fogs,
    He stood outside the outskirts and saw his house.
    Potatoes in the garden and meadow by the river.
    He wiped his tear and clenched his fists.
    Put a machine gun in a high attic
    And he wrote in his diary: "No one will enter here."
  19. igorj 51
    igorj 51 9 September 2017 20: 00
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    Once again - my nephew spent about six months in Korea and knows for sure what kind of life is there. Most of the things you wrote about RK are nonsense

    Well, yes ... Plemyank knows ... He certainly lived there "in the shoes" of an ordinary Korean .. he worked not in the privileged company Samsng or LG, where to get a pipe dream for a simple average Korean .. It's about how to get to Gazprom in Russia or to Rosneft ... Nonsense you say .. Well, well ... I don’t know your nephew, but I know some of my friends, one of them is a close friend, from school, who worked there for a year and a half and not in Samsung but in the ordinary private South Korean company .. After returning, he was still indignant and cursed for a long time, and said that he didn’t foot in slavery anymore ...
    By the way, are you up to date about North Korean orders - for example, to move from one settlement to another an ordinary Korean needs permission from the authorities, that you can only listen to sealed receivers with fixed settings, what if you accidentally tear the portrait of the Sun-like one - for this camp and many other delights?

    and where do you know about the North Korean order ..? Also the nephew told ..? Oh yes, well, of course .. He also talked with South Korean engineers .. and they, in turn, with North Korean defectors or supposedly defectors ... That is, the information, so to speak, "from the inside" .. In general, everything is clear .. Everything, as I wrote above .. Your nephew is the ultimate truth ... This is called do not believe your eyes, believe me ...
    And yes - it’s better to "lick" (but in fact, just being friends and allies and enjoying freedom and human rights than being in the position of a zombie draft animal.

    and you would not want to live in this "free" country yourself, if you really admire her ..? Well, judging by the stories of your nephew ...
    Yes, which is simpler - if the DPRK is such a good and free country, let Eun open the borders to leave. Only to leave. What should he be afraid of, because the North Koreans adore their power and do not want to know the damned Western imperialists. Only not, for some reason they don’t.

    And the fact that thousands of North Korean workers are working in different countries of the world is they supposed to be taken there under machine guns ..? And by the way, a lot of people go not only to work but also to study abroad from North Koreans.
  20. Gransasso
    Gransasso 9 September 2017 22: 01
    +1
    Quote: Tartar 174
    Russia has always been and is and will be. We are few, but no one will drive us out of there - this is my slogan.
    ps Something happened to you with the Russian keyboard layout?