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Testing the "invisible fighters" in the sky of Syria would be useful for Israel

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Today in Syria, as well as in Lebanon, there is a definite situation that influences Iraq and the entire so-called “Shiite axis”, which runs from Iran, through Iraq and Syria to the Mediterranean coast. This problem worries Israel and the Israel Defense Forces , forces us to think strategically and develop action plans, both at the state and military levels. Russia has long decided to support the regime of Bashar Assad, thanks to this intervention, he is likely to survive, remain in power and regain a large part of Syria.


To achieve this goal, a certain alliance was also concluded with Iran, which, in my opinion, should be viewed as a temporary phenomenon, because Russia is not interested in strengthening Iran, which is its competitor in many areas. However, for Syria, cooperation with Iran was important because of Hezbollah, Iraq, and the war with the enemies of Assad, not only with ISIS, but also with various other organizations that oppose the old regime.

Iranians dream of staying in Syria, but Russians are not ready to give up their positions. There is not enough room for both of these countries, and since Russia is still a superpower, our attention will be directed towards this state, which explains the attempts of the head of government to establish mutual understanding with President Putin. He seeks to ensure that in the new Syria, although it is not yet clear what it will be, the Russian influence did not interfere and did not threaten Israel, and, perhaps, to a certain extent, even restrained the Iranians. After all, Iran’s goals are very different from Russian ones. At the moment, there is some kind of mutual understanding between Russia and Iran, some kind of union, but one cannot say that it will last for a long time.



Israel’s strategic position has not changed, thanks to our military power and thanks to the very substantial US strategic support, which will remain unchanged in any situation. Therefore, if someone wants to deploy an opposition with Israel, he will have to take this factor into account. That is why Russia conducts a dialogue with us, and not at all because of the great love for Israel. Nobody loves us, and that's fine. Our status in the Middle East and in the world is not built on love, but on our military power and strategic ties and alliances. Despite the fact that the United States is now outside the Syrian conflict, they are the main pillar of Israel’s security.

As for the position of Israel itself, it can be defined as a “bystander”. We did nothing to prevent Assad from strengthening his power. We looked at what was happening, because we understood that, compared with the consequences of the collapse of Syria, it is more profitable for us to maintain centralized power there, even if it is not the most pleasant regime in the world. Therefore, over the past few years, Israel stood aside, taking care only of its own interests, which were and remain as follows: the first is all that concerns the Golan Heights, there should not be the presence of Hezbollah or Iranian guards of the revolution, and second, Hezbollah did not establish itself in Lebanon, so that there was no transfer of arms from Iran through Syria into the hands of Hezbollah. And also to prevent the new Syrian state from becoming too strong, not threatening Israel, and not joining the confrontation with Hezbollah in the event of the start of hostilities against our country.

Israel, with the help of our intelligence services, constantly monitored the situation and continues to do so to this day. In addition, it is important to strengthen our deterrent power. I do not know whether the F-35 aircraft actually flew over Syria, but it is quite likely. These aircraft are designed so that enemy radar could not detect them. These are the so-called “invisible planes” and I would not be surprised if Russian air defense systems could not detect them. I think their test in the Syrian sky would be very useful for us, because it is in this region that our air force must be very skillful and maintain air superiority. We are in no way trying to upset the Russians, we just want to keep our freedom of action in Syria, close to the Lebanese border and prevent the transfer weapons to this region.

Iran strongly strengthened in Syria. There is even information that they are trying to build weapons factories there. I still do not really understand what the Iranians are building there. But even if we are talking about factories for the production of weapons and missiles, they are unlikely to have time to finish building ... Russia is absolutely not interested in such a development of events, here our positions coincide.

So if the need arises for a military operation to destroy such a plant, then most likely it will happen: the Assad regime is weak, it cannot refuse the Iranians helping it, but the Russians may well intervene if they realize that Israel will not accept this situation .


Syria, the installation "Beech", which was destroyed in January


This week, the IDF is conducting large-scale exercises in the north of the country, aimed at testing the armed attack of Hezbollah from Lebanon and the Israeli preventive strike on Hezbollah. In addition, the modern arena of hostilities should be considered on a larger scale, because Syria can join Lebanon. It is likely that during the next war, if such a thing happens, Syria and Lebanon will become a united front. And I am sure that the IDF is working out the actions under such a scenario.
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  1. Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 7 September 2017 15: 38
    +3
    It is a pity that the author, outlining the temporality of the alliance between Russia and Iran, did not give a forecast about the direction in which events will develop, after its collapse. None of the parties took any official obligations. But after the victory over the IG, the presence of either Iran and its subsidiary in the form of Hezbollah or the Russian Federation will become inappropriate. Bolivar cannot stand two. Against this background, Israel has serious chances to ensure the security of its northern borders, especially in the Golan Heights. I don’t see Iran’s chances to stay in Syria, where the Sunni world, Israel, Turkey, and sooner or later the Russian Federation, will in every way displace the Persians and their satellites from the new Syria. Syria will definitely not return the entire territory. In any case, it is under the control of the Kurds.
    1. maxim947
      maxim947 7 September 2017 20: 16
      +7
      Now you are worried about your northern borders, and wasn’t it better to seriously think about it earlier, when the game was gaining strength. For such a noble and just cause as the struggle for peace against terror, one could even make friends with Aad a little and stop it at the beginning. But you did the exact opposite! Including "with whom to make friends." And then the author states as a fact "no one loves us." Sometimes you need to sacrifice something, and not just seek profit
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 7 September 2017 23: 57
        +4
        Israel only imitates its independence. The whole world knows how this independence depends on each bunch of striped. They will say they are friends with Iran, and you will not go anywhere. Be friends and kiss in a hickey.
      2. Sailor
        Sailor 9 September 2017 13: 58
        +2
        What is the connection, it turns out their great friend, too, no one likes, did not think why?
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 8 September 2017 10: 42
      +3
      Quote: Rogue1812
      after defeating ISIS, the presence of either Iran and its branch in the form of Hezbollah or the Russian Federation will become inappropriate
      Tramp! it turns out that you will awaken against the Russian Federation, which is building normal good neighborly relations with you, and support the Persians, who openly, at all levels, declare that they will destroy Israel. And even they do everything in order to acquire a nuclear bomb! - Well this is not serious! This is the first.
      Secondly, we are arming Assad, providing him with our own videoconferencing system, building 2 bases - certainly not to tell us: “Thank you, everyone is free” Yes, this is for your patrons, like a sickle in the bells, but also our geopolitical interests from this will not go anywhere. Oil and gas is the axis around which the interests of superpowers are now spinning, and whether Qatari gas and LNG Yankees in Europe will depend on Syria’s possession or not. And this is a matter of strategic stability in BV, in Europe and the Russian Federation.
      Thirdly, we are not indifferent to who will remain in Syria after the end of the civil war. Because after the election, you will probably need to put together a coalition led by Assad, or a pro-Russian general, then today it would not hurt you to take care of this issue and get Trumpapap into your ears that this is necessary for you ... so that Russia, friendly to you, keeps abreast. ... not Iran or Turkey ....
      So, it doesn’t matter that
      That is why Russia is conducting a dialogue with us, and not at all because of a great love for Israel. Nobody loves us, and that's normal.

      Well: it turns out that the general understands everything perfectly! laughing
      Well, let's row in one direction for mutual pleasure ....
      IMHO.
    3. Fei_Wong
      Fei_Wong 10 September 2017 16: 30
      +2
      Quote: Rogue1812
      Syria will definitely not return the entire territory.

      It's right. In the Golan you grabbed a stranglehold.
  2. GAF
    GAF 7 September 2017 15: 41
    +12
    Why are the Israelis invisible. They are already successfully acting in gentlemanly fashion "from around the corner with a dust bag." There was a message about the next Israeli strike on Syria from Lebanon. With all this, the Igilovsky enclave is not touched at its border.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      7 September 2017 16: 49
      +7
      Quote: GAF
      Why are the Israelis invisible. They are already successfully acting in gentlemanly fashion "from around the corner with a dust bag." There was a message about the next Israeli strike on Syria from Lebanon. With all this, the Igilovsky enclave is not touched at its border.

      Near our border is a de-escalation zone, which was established by Russian officers in negotiations with local Sknite tribes.
      In general, ambush work is the best tactic. This is Lavrinenko proved.
      1. Prometheus
        Prometheus 7 September 2017 20: 04
        +4
        Greetings. By the "Igilovsky enclave," he meant something else. You can look at the map yourself - between the de-escalation zone and the Golan Heights, a small piece of land is controlled by Jaish Khalid ibn Al-Walid, an IS-affiliated group.
    2. fider
      fider 7 September 2017 16: 54
      +5
      Let Assad deal with Ishil, we have a hezbollah, Hamas and other "friends" in the first stage.
      1. GAF
        GAF 7 September 2017 17: 25
        +4
        Quote: fider
        Let Assad deal with Ishil, we have a hezbollah, Hamas and other "friends" in the first stage.

        Sorry, maybe a lack of information, and the East - they say such a delicate matter. Still, the Hezbollah that beats the terrorists is worse than ISIS, which are fully lit up around the world and who feel calm in an enclave on the border with Israel.
        1. 5:0
          5:0 7 September 2017 18: 59
          +4
          Because Hezbollah is fighting with ISIS, it has not ceased to be a Shiite terrorist organization. It is precisely today that it is the main danger for Israel. ISIS understands perfectly well that it should not get in touch with Israel, it has no chance there. Therefore, the main goal of Hezbollah today.
          1. zenion
            zenion 7 September 2017 19: 53
            +5
            You should not get in touch with Israel, for Israel feeds, heals and provides weapons. In addition, he pays for participation in battles and threatens Israel on command.
            1. Black5Raven
              Black5Raven 9 September 2017 11: 32
              +1
              One magic word, where are the Billy proofs? We need proofs wassat
  3. seos
    seos 7 September 2017 17: 08
    +13
    Are glucose mushrooms growing in Israel? It can be seen that the author eats them .... Especially the photo of the beech struck)
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 7 September 2017 17: 18
      +5
      Quote: seos
      Especially the beech photo struck

      Noticed too ... wink hi
    2. Lex.
      Lex. 7 September 2017 17: 45
      +4
      In general, it is a wasp and not a beech
    3. 5:0
      5:0 7 September 2017 19: 01
      +3
      This is already a question for the journalist who inserted the first photo that came across.
      1. Barmal
        Barmal 11 September 2017 01: 49
        0
        This is just a PC on the site where this article was taken.
  4. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 7 September 2017 18: 59
    +6
    These are the so-called "invisible planes" and I won’t be surprised if the Russian air defense could not find them.
    And why should Russia “discover” them? The public will not be told about this, potential "friends" either. Yes, and to shoot down Israeli pilots to anything at the moment ... But the signature of the aircraft more to investigate - it would be useful.
  5. Netwallker
    Netwallker 7 September 2017 19: 19
    +3
    The newspaper claims that Israeli aircraft "performed maneuvers at different heights and flights of different ranges, and also simulated air attacks, but neither the S-300 missile defense system, nor the more advanced s-400, detected them." Al-Jarida writes: “It seems that the Israelis are not ready to sacrifice their military superiority, especially in the air.”

    The source warned that "Israel today, more than ever, seeks to hit any target in the region - far or near." The Israelis will receive 50 latest fighter jets from the Americans and "the Air Force intends to fundamentally change the very concept of military operations."
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 7 September 2017 21: 43
      +6
      Quote: Netwallker
      but neither the S-300 missile defense system nor the more advanced S-400 missile defense detected them ”

      I wonder how the newspaper defined it?
      1. papas-57
        papas-57 8 September 2017 00: 26
        +6
        '' I wonder how the newspaper defined it. '' Well, the editors did not notice, so no one saw.
  6. WapentakeLokki
    WapentakeLokki 7 September 2017 19: 25
    +3
    Quote I don’t know if the F-35 planes really flew over Syria, but this is likely. These aircraft are designed so that enemy radars could not detect them. These are the so-called "invisible planes."
    The author is, you’re a complete LOCH in aviation, not “Invisible”, but air with reduced EPR, and these are two big differences. And it’s unlikely that such an expensive little thing will be risked and most likely the F-35 will face the fate of the Dreadnought that defended themselves at the bases as the loss of even one ship hit the fleet and light forces blown away for them. So the good old F-16 F-15 and F-18 and F-35 will fight '' They will wait in the wings because their time has not yet come ''
    1. Linkor200
      Linkor200 7 September 2017 22: 40
      +5
      WapentakeLokki - Dear, there is a high probability that it was the Dreadnoughts F-35 that took part in today's operation in Syria, which resulted in the destruction of warehouses with Russian missiles prepared for Hezbollah from the air. Strange, but for some reason, airplanes appeared from Lebanese airspace. So the strategist of you is useless.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        7 September 2017 23: 53
        +4
        Quote: Linkor200
        WapentakeLokki - Dear, there is a high probability that it was the Dreadnoughts F-35 that took part in today's operation in Syria, which resulted in the destruction of warehouses with Russian missiles prepared for Hezbollah from the air. Strange, but for some reason, airplanes appeared from Lebanese airspace. So the strategist of you is useless.

        This can not be under any circumstances. The initial combat capability of the F-35I will be achieved in December 2017 of the year.
  7. AKC
    AKC 7 September 2017 20: 05
    +6
    I will not comment on the author’s thoughts, for a meaningless lesson!
    I just want to draw attention to the fact that the author and commentators from Israel do not see anything wrong with the fact that Israeli military aircraft will fly in the sky of another state! Actually, this is not very good and can end badly!
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 7 September 2017 21: 45
      +8
      Quote: AKC
      I just want to draw attention to the fact that the author and commentators from Israel do not see anything wrong with the fact that Israeli military aircraft will fly in the sky of another state! Actually, this is not very good and can end badly!

      Moreover, these two-faced ... radishes do not see anything reprehensible in the very fact of the existence of a terrorist organization if it does not attack Israel.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 8 September 2017 21: 47
        +2
        Quote: Setrac
        they see nothing reprehensible in the very fact of the existence of a terrorist organization if it does not attack Israel.

        Well, you do not see anything reprehensible in the very fact of the existence of the Hezbollah terrorist organization if it does not attack Russia. Or are you special and you can? wink
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 8 September 2017 22: 23
          0
          Quote: And Us Rat
          Well, you don’t see anything reprehensible in the very fact of the existence of the Hezbollah terrorist organization if it does not attack Russia.

          Where is Hezbollah a terrorist organization? They compared Hezbollah - which is honestly fighting the aggressor with ISIS - who were originally an aggressor and a terrorist.
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 8 September 2017 22: 44
            +2
            Quote: Setrac
            Where is Hezbollah a terrorist organization?

            They carried out attacks against civilians, killed women and children, invented and were the first to use the "martyr belt" in a crowd of civilians - hence they are terrorists.
            Quote: Setrac
            Compare Hezbollah - which is honestly fighting the aggressor

            And in a gang fight, does one of the parties cease to be a gangster?
            Quote: Setrac
            originally an aggressor and a terrorist.

            Like Hezbollah against Israel. yes
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 8 September 2017 23: 40
              +2
              Quote: And Us Rat
              They carried out attacks against civilians, killed women and children, invented and were the first to use the "martyr belt" in a crowd of civilians - hence they are terrorists.

              You also committed terrorist attacks against civilians, killed women and children. Hezbola is fighting against Israel, with the same success it can be called the IDF terrorist organization.
              The difference is that Hezbollah is a consequence of the war unleashed by Israel, ISIS is the cause of the war created by the Americans for war and terror.
              Let the Jews leave the occupied territories - and Hezbollah will not be needed.
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 9 September 2017 03: 25
                +2
                Quote: Setrac
                You also committed terrorist attacks against civilians, killed women and children.

                At least one example in the studio! fellow
                Quote: Setrac
                Hezbola fights against Israel

                And the IG against Syria, and what is the difference?
                Quote: Setrac
                with the same success can be called the terrorist organization IDF

                Then the RF Armed Forces to the heap, there are no completely sinless ones.
                Quote: Setrac
                Hezbollah - a consequence of the war unleashed by Israel

                Nonsense! The Hezbollah Movement was created in 1982 with the assistance of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, as an Iranian agent for influencing the Lebanese civil war.
                Quote: Setrac
                Let the Jews leave the occupied territories - and Hezbollah will not be needed.

                Where? In the sea? laughing For them, 100% of the territory of Israel is “occupied territories”. We do not engage in dialogue with the inadequate.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 9 September 2017 09: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: And Us Rat
                  For them, 100% of the territory of Israel is “occupied territories”. We do not engage in dialogue with the inadequate.

                  But this is true. You are inadequate here.
                  1. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 9 September 2017 14: 59
                    +1
                    Quote: Setrac
                    But this is true. You are inadequate here.

                    What, nothing to cover? We pass to unproven insinuations? fellow The drain is counted. laughing
  8. Zefr
    Zefr 7 September 2017 20: 21
    +3
    Jew, such a Jew ....
    "But do not we fly over Syria?" But he is not oh, the Jews arrogance.
    Once upon a time, the USSR had eggs to shoot down the Paurs of all and South Korean Boeing. And now there are only partners around.
  9. arsen69
    arsen69 7 September 2017 20: 59
    +3
    It seems that the article intentionally contains a set of typical spells from the series “armor is strong and our tanks are fast” in order to calm their own population. However, if the confrontation of Israel with the so-called the "Shiite axis" will continue, the situation for this country may be much more complicated and dangerous than the general is trying to imagine.
  10. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 7 September 2017 21: 41
    +12
    ... compared to the consequences of the collapse of Syria, it is more profitable for us to maintain centralized power there, even if this is not the most pleasant regime in the world.

    I am not a general at all, but one hundred times already I explained here that it is much more profitable and more beneficial for Israel to have a cowardly, but quite pragmatic ophthalmologist near by, than brave but completely reckless insurgents of any kind and color.
    1. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 8 September 2017 10: 55
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      It is much more profitable and beneficial for Israel to have a cowardly, but quite pragmatic ophthalmologist at hand, than brave, but completely reckless rebels of all stripes and shades.

      Logically, like that. However, in reality, the Jews are doing everything possible to press the ophthalmologist and get crazy insurgents of all stripes and shades at their side. Here is such a strange Jewish logic with a subversion.
  11. iouris
    iouris 7 September 2017 22: 38
    +1
    The article has one water. It is clear that they are already experiencing. It is good for everyone.
  12. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 7 September 2017 22: 41
    0
    Jews simply do not understand that the United States is now their allies, but in 7-10 years it will stop. States will not be up to Israel
  13. high
    high 8 September 2017 03: 11
    0
    Quote: maxim947
    Now you are worried about your northern borders, and wasn’t it better to seriously think about it earlier, when the game was gaining strength. For such a noble and just cause as the struggle for peace against terror, one could even make friends with Aad a little and stop it at the beginning. But you did the exact opposite! Including "with whom to make friends." And then the author states as a fact "no one loves us." Sometimes you need to sacrifice something, and not just seek profit

    For Israel, ISIS, Assad, Hisbollah, Iran, Hamas are terrorists.
    Israel and Egypt fight with Isil in Sinai,
    there have already been several wars with Syria,
    Iran, Hisbollah, Hamas carried out terrorist attacks, for example, Argentina issued arrest warrants for senior Iranian terrorists who blew up the building of a Jewish organization, where more than 100 people died ...
    Iran finances terrorist organizations in the Middle East, including Hezbollah terrorists, by the way the Arab countries recognized Hezbollah as terrorists and they are forbidden to enter Arab countries .........
  14. high
    high 8 September 2017 03: 14
    0
    Quote: AKC

    I just want to draw attention to the fact that the author and commentators from Israel do not see anything wrong with the fact that Israeli military aircraft will fly in the sky of another state! Actually, this is not very good and can end badly!

    Do not you know that Israel and Syria have been at war for decades ....
  15. high
    high 8 September 2017 03: 20
    +1
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Linkor200
    WapentakeLokki - Dear, there is a high probability that it was the Dreadnoughts F-35 that took part in today's operation in Syria, which resulted in the destruction of warehouses with Russian missiles prepared for Hezbollah from the air. Strange, but for some reason, airplanes appeared from Lebanese airspace. So the strategist of you is useless.

    This can not be under any circumstances. The initial combat capability of the F-35I will be achieved in December 2017 of the year.

    Read more carefully the Israeli media and military comments ..... you will understand your mistake ...
  16. Cxnumx
    Cxnumx 8 September 2017 06: 49
    +2
    The strategic position of Israel has not changed, thanks to our military power and thanks to the very substantial strategic support of the United States, which will remain unchanged in any situation. Therefore, if someone wants to start a confrontation with Israel, he will have to take this factor into account. ... Despite the fact that now the United States is outside the Syrian conflict, they serve as the main pillar of Israeli security.

    In my opinion, this is the main thing you need to know about the foreign policy of Israel.
  17. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 8 September 2017 18: 56
    +1
    The funny thing is that the photo shows the Wasp, and not the Buk. One should know such nuances.
  18. TOR2
    TOR2 8 September 2017 21: 36
    0
    These are the so-called "invisible planes" and I won’t be surprised if Russian air defense could not detect them.


    They thought the same way ...
    Quote: Linkor200
    Dear, there is a high probability that it was the Dreadnoughts F-35 that took part in today's operation in Syria, which resulted in the destruction of warehouses with Russian missiles prepared for Hezbollah from the air. Strange, but for some reason, airplanes appeared from Lebanese airspace. So the strategist of you is useless

    The probability is zero. Sooner or later, the debris of the F-35 will also be put on public display, but so far this cannot be allowed. Who then buys it, but for the money. While the suckers are not sanded, you will not use a single F-35 in dangerous situations. Otherwise, such a fine will come from behind the puddles that you will work for him with the whole Israelite.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 10 September 2017 21: 43
      0
      Well, normally generals with VO forbade us to train. So far, the probability of counteracting anti-aircraft defense is equal to zero, and not probability, but reality.
  19. Mavric
    Mavric 9 September 2017 15: 31
    0
    And why did “Wasp” become “Buk”?
  20. Sergey Pavlov
    Sergey Pavlov 9 September 2017 21: 05
    0
    Yes, and it is very useful for us, let the comrades believe in their invisibility and convince others. In which case there will be less fuss.
  21. Barmal
    Barmal 10 September 2017 21: 26
    0

    Syria, the installation "Beech", which was destroyed in January

    Zr Osa-AK. Not? May not read the article at all? They deceived everyone, these Jews, and Buk they flunked, and all Russian complexes do not see them.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 10 September 2017 21: 38
      0
      Do not see. Or you will deny the obvious. They do not see it either because of myopia or because their eyes are closed.
      1. Barmal
        Barmal 11 September 2017 01: 45
        0
        Judging by the article in the proof, the site with the title SECURITY PROFESSIONAL is amateurish. With all the conclusions that follow.
  22. solovald
    solovald 11 September 2017 09: 09
    0
    In the photo, in my opinion, the OS was shown. I am on such a "partisan."