The siege of the city of Brno: why the clock strikes noon at eleven ... (ending)

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War at all times was a difficult, bloody and dirty affair, that is, it was the legalized killing of one's neighbors, covered with a veil of various verbal nonsense that stemmed from the inability to solve the matter with the world. However, then, in the period of the Thirty Years War, the matter was worsened by the fact that the war was also going on for faith, that is, for the correct salvation of its immortal soul. But this soul had to be saved in the mud of trenches and bastions, under the cores and bullets, and in addition on the hungry belly! Yes, yes, the siege, and the two warring parties, was also added by the lack of food. The Czechs, who got used to good beer, sausage, dumplings and smoked meat, suffered this painfully. And then all this had to be simply forgotten. But the worst thing was that the defenders of the city had gunpowder running out. Therefore, they saved ammunition and fought mostly cold weapons, and only in the most extreme situations did they start firing from guns and muskets.


The Battle of White Mountain (Peter Snayers, 1620).



The Imperials knew about the plight of the city. Zrzgertsog Leopold-Wilhelm gave the order to Field Marshal Kolaredo to assist him in any way, and the Marshal sent six hundred cavalrymen from Prague under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Count Vrbny.


Shield and helmet infantryman. Augsburg, 1590. The Armory of the Palace-residence in Dresden. Since it was very difficult to break through the system of pikemen, in the armies of Europe at the end of the 16th century, round shields, which began to arm infantrymen, were revived. On the left and on the right, heavy ones, as called Walloon swords, are exhibited, with which, again, both horsemen and infantrymen fought.

He quickly reached the outskirts of the city and 26 June unexpectedly attacked the Swedes from the rear, trying to give the impression that they were being attacked by a whole army. And this provocation he failed! At some point, the Swedes actually believed that the Imperials were much larger, which caused a fair amount of confusion among them. Taking advantage of this, the Austrians divided into two groups. Two hundred horsemen portrayed the attack of many thousands of Imperial cavalry, while four hundred managed to slip into the city. Of course, four hundred horsemen are not God knows what forces, but the main thing was that they delivered a twenty-kilogram bag of gunpowder to the city of 172. Moreover, only half of the arrivals remained in the city, while the other immediately left it - due to the banal reason for the lack of food.


During the Thirty Years' War, cavalry, dressed in the characteristic "three-piece armor", played a very important role. Now it became not necessary to protect the legs below the knees, but the armor for the torso and for the thighs were improved in a very significant way. Before you are the so-called field armaments of the work of Christian Meller 1620, the Armory of the Palace-residence in Dresden.

All of this so outraged the Swedes that they surrounded Brno with an absolutely impassable system of redoubts, ramparts and trenches, and the city was literally cut off from the outside world.

The siege of the city of Brno: why the clock strikes noon at eleven ... (ending)

It should be noted that the unification of military uniforms in European armies began only in the second half of the 17th century, and during the Thirty Years' War, it was still in its infancy. That is, the soldiers were dressed according to the principle of "all sorts of different ways", but as insignia of their own from others, ribbons on camisoles and feathers on hats and helmets were of certain colors. For example, the color of the Spaniards and Austrians was red, the Swedes - traditionally yellow, the French - blue, the Dutch - orange. (From the book on stories military uniform, published in Germany in 1905 year.)

Meanwhile, the troops of the ally of the Swedish king, Transylvanian prince Rakosi, 10 of thousands of soldiers, including German infantry, Transylvanian cavalry and Hungarian haiduks, also approached Brno. Torstensson, however, was well aware that there would be little benefit from such an ally, since he was already negotiating with the emperor for a separate truce (although according to the plan, Torstensson and Rakosi should have met under Vienna and jointly take the city).


Horseman's semi-armor by master Jacob Goring, 1640 Year, Dresden. The Armory of the Palace-residence in Dresden.

Meanwhile, the famine in Brno has intensified so much that on August 8 citizens were officially allowed to eat horse meat. Then there was not enough water. The only consolation for them was the prayers and preaching of Martin Strzheda, who, according to Suchet, seemed to take power from Heaven and pass it on to the defenders of the city.


Pistol set mid XVII century. The Armory of the Palace-residence in Dresden.


Pistols with a wheel lock, that is, a mechanism igniting gunpowder in the barrel, precisely in the era of the Thirty Years War, were most prevalent. One of their design features was an almost straight handle. This form was born due to the fact that they only had to shoot at insignificant distances, when the weapon became something of a continuation of the arm. In addition, it helped keep the pistols when fired, because of the large caliber they had a strong return. The round apple on the handle was a counterweight and helped to snatch the weapon from the holster located at the time by the saddle. Usually there were two such holsters - on the left and on the right, and the pistols were put in them with their arms outwards, and not inwards, so that they would not interfere with the saddle. To a pair of pistols, the obligatory accessory was a powder flask-dispenser, usually trimmed with carved or engraved bone, a bag with bullets and ... the key - to start the spring of the pistol wheel! This pair is exhibited in the municipal museum of the city of Meissen, Germany.


Spilberk fortress aerial view.

15 August Torstensson first held a one-hour artillery preparation, and then ordered the start of a general assault. But before that, he promised his soldiers, too, to the exhausted order that he would stop the siege in the event that the city would not be taken until 12 o'clock in the afternoon. He pledged in front of everyone, moreover, most likely, and he swore to God how without it. Meanwhile, many buildings in the city caught fire and were destroyed, and the Swedes moved to the attack in six places at once. At two sites of the city’s defense, they managed to break through it and enter its streets. One of the Špilberk bastions fell, and the Swedish banner splashed on it. The fierce battle boiled right on the streets. Far from all citizens had a weapon, but the city needed to be defended, and people began to fight with pitchforks and axes. Cobblestones were turned out of the city pavement and thrown from the windows at the heads of Swedish soldiers. Both O'Gilvi and Suchet fought here on a par with everyone, wielding their heavy swords. Do not lag behind their men and women. In the church of St. Thomas they took the icon with the face of the Black Madonna and went through the procession of the city, praying for intercession. And the faith of these simple people was so strong that many later swore that they really saw that face in the sky over the city the face of the Mother of God. True, the fact that today the experts prefer not to say anything definite about where this shrine came from, but then, in the 17th century, people sincerely believed that this icon was written by none other than the evangelist Luke himself, and that she would help them. And here the bell ringer from the church on Petrov, seeing the procession from the tower, began to ring the bell, and exactly at 11 hours, that is, an hour before noon. Well, while Torstensson heard this ringing, he decided that ... it was already midday, and, fulfilling his promise, he gave the order to his troops to withdraw, because he could not break the word given to the soldiers. Then he asked for a truce in order to bury his dead and take the wounded, and on August 23 completely lifted the siege from the city, which remained undefeated!


Peter and Paul Cathedral towering over the city of Brno. You can go down to it from the Spilberk fortress along the path through the park, after passing a couple of hundred meters, and there is already the city and the market square, so it’s not surprising why the Swedes were so eager to seize this particular fortress.


Cabbage, it is Green and Market Square. There and today they sell all kinds of greens, fruits and vegetables from their gardens. A bit unusual, but funny. Everything is open-air, but ... very clean, no flies (only bees), and nasty market smells! Immediately behind the fountain is the very interesting Moravian Museum Brno, and behind it, again, the spiers of the Cathedral of Peter and Paul - everything is absolutely there!


The facade of the Cathedral of Peter and Paul.


The very original external cathedral of Peter and Paul Cathedral, with which Martin Strzheda just admonished his fellow citizens to hold on to the end. “God is with us!” He argued and ... it turned out to be so, because otherwise the Swedes would have won.

This is how it has become a tradition since then that the bells on the clock in Brno ring 11 and then beat the 12 again!


It is impossible to photograph in this cathedral, besides, because of the early time, our group was not allowed to go further than the porch, because the floors were rubbed there and the cleaning took place. But outside it could be removed as much as necessary ...

During the siege of the defenders have lost 250 people. The Swedes lost up to eight thousand of their soldiers under the walls of Brno.


View of the altar inside the cathedral of st. Jacob in Brno.

After the end of the war, Emperor Ferdinand III ordered to help the city with money and building material, and also freed citizens for six whole years from taxes and customs duties and issued a number of important privileges, including the right to conduct horse trades. The last privilege was very important at that time, as if today it would be forbidden to sell cars somewhere, well, and then this prohibition would be lifted. The inhabitants of the Brno suburbs who participated in the defense of the city and lost their homes and property were given the rights of Brno citizens free of charge. An old dispute between Brno and the city of Olomouc was finally resolved for the right to be called the capital of Moravia (since the Swedes took it back in the 1642 year, and Brno stood before them, and twice!). Well, Czech students still say that this happened only because there was no student legion in Olomouc!


Field Reiter armor of Duke Johan George II of Saxony. The work of the master Christian Meller, 1650, Dresden. The Armory of the Palace-residence in Dresden. Of course, the armor of commanders of cavalry detachments differed from the armor of mass, almost already mass production, and could represent the most real works of art.

It is always interesting to find out what fate has developed among the participants in certain events afterwards. And this is what is known about this: Jesuit Martin Strzheda, already in 1649, died from tuberculosis, surrounded by the love and respect of the inhabitants of Brno. Condottiere O'Gilvi was appointed Life Commandant Shpilberka, gave him the rank of colonel and the title of baron, so now he became known as Baron von Ogilvy. Huguenot Suchet was also promoted and made a major general and earl. In the service of the Empire over the next 30 years, he was able to rise to field marshal, fought in Poland, Transylvania, and Holland, but he was buried after all in the city of Brno, in the church of St. James, where today behind the altar his tomb can be seen his bronze statue.


The grave of Field Marshal Count Jean-Louis Redui de Suchet in the Cathedral of St. Jacob in Brno. Located behind the altar.

The memory of all these people in Brno is honored to this day. The city has a street Strzhedova, a bust of Suchet and even a restaurant "Ogilvy". By the way, the son of O'Gilvey, Baron Georg Benedict von Ogilvy, also became a commander and fought in three European armies, including the Russian army! In the 1704 year during the Northern War, it was he - the Russian Field Marshal Ogilvy took the fortress of Narva by storm. And he also compiled the first staff list of the Russian army, which operated in it until the 1731 year.
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  1. +5
    15 September 2017 06: 30
    As always interesting, but
    while four hundred managed to slip into the city. Of course, four hundred horsemen is not God knows what forces, but the main thing was that they delivered to the city 172 twenty kilogram bags of gunpowder.

    3,5 tons of cargo "slipped"? Reading this information, I recall jokes about the Swedish neighbors, Estonians. laughing(not to reproach the author, the data is historical).
    1. +5
      15 September 2017 07: 37
      Well, that's fine, another 20 kg per croup horse to grind. And two dozen unloaded - the vanguard, the rearguard.
      1. +3
        15 September 2017 08: 02
        Perhaps it was so, although the rider himself in armor, yes, rugged terrain, open space, so that the speed of movement left much to be desired, and the goal is excellent for the enemy. In general, the Swedes yawned the enemy. Thorstensson had a poor deal with intelligence, security. The very story of the oath of the commander looks like a vaudeville. Most likely they bought offal, because, here everything is in a heap, "I was sick, I didn’t know, I looked the other way." But the Czechs are solid bonuses after such a PR company. smile
        1. +3
          15 September 2017 08: 51
          I doubt that it seems that during the Thirty Years War it was the Swedish troops that remained faithful to the oath (it seems that they began to formulate this concept in the current reading). Everyone else enthusiastically broke feudal relations. Torstensson, in the Swedish mentality, is something like our Suvorov, and, well, Delagardi will be de Tolly.
          1. +2
            15 September 2017 09: 22
            Then, there are still options: 1) he was a bad leader, since he had to fall ill and the army began without knowing what. A crowd of cavalry arrived, arranged a boil, some of them, at a maximum trot, made their way into the city and this was all done in the army, where only losses amounted to 8 thousand people! 2) the siege was carried out by a small amount of infantry and artillery, because, they really could not detain those who could enter the city, as well as leave. This also explains that the assailants broke into the city suffered such significant losses that they could not capture the city. In any case, the story of the "promise to twelve" is a beautiful legend.
            1. +2
              15 September 2017 10: 04
              I think it’s not known what started after the “allies” came down: Romanians, Hungarians and other German rabble. No friends are needed with such friends, all the more so, whose leadership has already led separate negotiations with the enemy. And information is the most fluid substance.
              Legends, legends ... half of human history is based on legends. The legend of Spartacus, the legend of the bloody Duke of Alba, the legend of the lost Marshal Davout ...
              But, of course, the loss ratio of 250/8000 is unpleasantly impressive. And, by the way, Torstensson's bigography does not indicate a defeat at Brno, at least in readily available sources. The winners write history, the losers do it like this feel
              1. +1
                15 September 2017 10: 17
                That's for sure! Moreover, everything is one to one: the "heroism" of the besieged, mountains of corpses of the enemy, and then such buns!
                ordered to help the city with money and building material, and also freed the townspeople by as much as six years from taxes and customs duties and issued a number of important privileges, including the right to conduct horse trading. ....... Residents of Brno suburbs who participated in the defense of the city and lost their homes and property were given the rights of Brno citizens free of charge. Finally, the old dispute between Brno and the city of Olomouc for the right to be called the capital of Moravia was finally resolved
                In short, manna from heaven spilled on the townspeople. How then, then, not to be a beautiful legend?
                1. +2
                  15 September 2017 10: 23
                  By the way, Olomouc Torstensson took it.
                  1. +1
                    15 September 2017 10: 40
                    Did the townspeople have no money? laughing Or were they the same goons as the inhabitants of Gotland?
  2. +2
    15 September 2017 06: 47
    Quote: avva2012
    jokes about the Swedish neighbors, Estonians.

    And what kind of jokes? To my shame I do not know a single one. And about riders and bags - data from the museum. Then there was also bookkeeping, accounting and control.
    1. +2
      15 September 2017 07: 50
      http://anekdoty.ru/pro-estoncev/
      Bookkeeping. “During the siege, the defenders lost 250 people. The Swedes lost up to eight thousand soldiers under the walls of Brno.” Machine guns on the flanks or combat diarrhea? Most likely, if true, the latter, or rather, not very true, but an exaggeration.
      1. +6
        15 September 2017 10: 20
        Hello. doctor! Some exaggeration should not be allowed. however, let us recall the state of military medicine and military hygiene at that time.
        It took almost 1300 years to return military medicine to a state that was at least remotely close to Roman models, and still innovations were difficult to implement, and science remained at the cave level: despite the studies of the well-known Ambroise Paré, gunshot wounds continued cauterize or pour boiling oil, there were no ideas about hygiene, anesthesia and antiseptics. If the mortality rate in Roman military hospitals, valetudinarians was 20–25% (largely due to the developed antiseptic), then the indicators of the XVI – XVII centuries are much worse - more than 70–75%.
        The second problem is water supply, crowding and related infections, the same dysentery. Military water supply is generally the topic of a separate article.
        You mentioned combat diarrhea in your comment. The "bloody diarrhea" that accompanies dysentery mowed down the besieged army no worse than machine guns. Therefore, very often sanitary losses besieged at times exceeded the military.
        How much did war cost the population. indirectly, one can judge by such an example.
        In one of the Swedish parishes (Bigdea) parishes, parish books from the Thirty Years War have been preserved. from 1621 to 1639, 230 recruits from Bigdea went into the army. As of 1639, five of them returned home (all five were disabled). 215 of their countrymen fell. Ten continued to serve, but their chances of survival looked modest - nine years remained until the end of the war. It would be too bold to extrapolate the loss figures of the natives of Bigdea parish to the whole of Sweden, but to consider that this parish was the most unlucky one too.
        1. +3
          15 September 2017 10: 34
          Hello! I absolutely agree with you, the medicine was organized very badly. Pirogov (the 19th century!) Became known not even as a surgeon, but as a person who organized just the proper sorting of the wounded, "he screams, it means he will live, last but not least, and he will be the first on the operating table of those who are quiet." It seems to be commonplace, but before him, somehow it was different. About Semmelweiss, this is generally a classic of the genre. Just wash your hands and all business. But, as always, the laws of dialectics enter. The medicine was bad, but those who could be born, live to adulthood, had such immunity, such compensatory abilities of the body, that only you wonder! The expression “heals like a dog” is not about dogs. Another time I recently watched an intelligence poll, which mentioned the wounds and injuries of Russian soldiers who requested a demobilization: "Alexey Lobin on the service of Russian nobles in the 16-17 centuries."
    2. +5
      15 September 2017 07: 58
      It turns out I have something to surprise you, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
      "There is an investigation into the incident at the Tallinn Zoo. Turtles have disappeared. A witness, an employee of the zoo, is being questioned:
      -Tell me what happened ?,
      “I just opened the door, and they’ll break as they break ....”
      Actually, Estonians consider Finns to be “brakes”, who, in turn, really dislike Swedes, and this is mutual ... In general, a friendly family of the Baltic peoples!
  3. +3
    15 September 2017 06: 56
    Well, Torstensson, having heard this ringing, decided that ... it was already noon, and, fulfilling his promise, he ordered his troops to withdraw, because he could not break the word given to the soldiers.

    Apparently already existing pocket watches were extremely rare ...
    1. +2
      15 September 2017 07: 11
      Apparently so. Or maybe they were not distinguished by sufficient accuracy and reliability. And where on the armor, and in them the generals before the battle then always dressed up - to show themselves - there were pockets for watches?
      1. +2
        15 September 2017 07: 22
        Well, not to armor, of course, to fasten them. There were adjutants or some staff.
        Apparently, the time factor did not play a paramount role, and something like a military journal (like for example in the Battle of Poltava) with temporal indicators was not conducted by anyone ..
      2. +3
        15 September 2017 11: 46
        the stress factor, I think, must be taken into account, not everyone in this state will begin to frantically fumble through the body in search of hours.
        yes, it turns out that chance is a great thing! how many battles were lost due to absurdities. what The Napoleonic battle at Marengo generally consisted of mere accidents and initiatives of individual commanders.hi
        Good photo, Vyacheslav Olegovich. The lighting is good. The armor showcase does not shine. At us in Arth. the museum didn’t manage to take off my armor so well, the glass is glare, my bearded print on top of the window is reflected in the photo. Or .. I just have crooked hands, and little experience .. request
      3. +3
        15 September 2017 13: 24
        The history of watches is a very interesting topic that deserves a series of articles.
        Pocket watches appeared around 1510, they were made by Peter Henlein from Nuremberg.
        They looked like this.
        1. +3
          15 September 2017 13: 29
          As for the described time, we used watches of this kind.

          Miniature Watches by Jacques Goullons
          By the way, in the 17th century in Europe, a respectable person considered it bad manners to have only one watch with him - it happened that one gentleman could have five or even six pocket watches at once! This was the height of prestige. At the same time, some mods could also “add” a finger ring to their outfit, and in addition an hour medal and a brooch watch!
          So with the time control at the described time, everything was fine.
          1. +4
            15 September 2017 13: 39
            it happened that one gentleman could have at once five or even six pocket watches

            Now some carry 2-3 mobile phones. People do not change, just progress does not stand still. VN, you have ennobled the discussion! good
            1. +3
              15 September 2017 13: 48
              The presence of more than one mobile phone is a sign of a lack of development. In general, normal people wear Vertu do not worry.

              VERTU SIGNATURE S DESIGN CLOUS DE PARIS RED GOLD
              25 475 €
              And why are there so many phones?
              1. +3
                15 September 2017 13: 56
                What do you mean why? One in the hands of everyone to see. laughing 90 may have passed, but people do not change.
              2. +4
                15 September 2017 14: 27
                17.07.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX Vertu declared himself bankrupt, the factory is closed, employees are fired.
                1. +5
                  15 September 2017 14: 54
                  A holy place is never empty. I do not believe that the hereditary Rublev aristocrats included in the Solntsevskaya Velvet Book, and especially their family members, intellectuals - football players and other giants of thought from the stage, will be content with Samsung pop models.
              3. +3
                15 September 2017 14: 46
                In general, normal people wear Vertu do not worry.

                yes, yes, yes, I’ll go tell everyone on the forum that I have three, and not a four-year-old mobile phone for 2000 rubles. laughing because .. he really is a four-year tube. But it’s convenient! drinks and show-offs are rotten business .. request
          2. +4
            15 September 2017 13: 48
            I read a book about the inventor of pocket watches (anti-religious, of course, the Soviet era was laughing), and so, there the servant knocked on the Inquisition that the owner was driving the tricks with unclean force, because he almost never left the house and was busy with something incomprehensible. When the owner, once, nevertheless, went out on business, the servant, making his way to him, saw and heard on that table "the heart of the devil." The man turned out to be “brave” and stone the devil’s thing! After the arrest, the legend says, the future author asked to postpone the trial for a month, bring his tools and give him the opportunity to finish work in prison. And, the evil inquisitors, you know, granted the request of the master. On time, at the first court hearing, the first pocket chronograph in the world was presented to all those present. Fairy tale lie hi
            1. +7
              15 September 2017 14: 08
              History has not preserved evidence of the persecution of German watchmakers (namely, they stood at the origins of portable watches) by the Holy Inquisition.
              As for chronographs, this is perhaps too loud, since the first designs had low accuracy.
              This portable watch had a spindle mechanism with a large two-arm biliane. Some German watches of the XVI century. the flywheel was not round, but a spoon-shaped. To control the course of these primitive regulators, then watchmakers used elastic stops made of bristles. By changing the distance between the stops, the swing amplitude of the flywheel was changed, and thereby its frequency.
              Toward the end of the XNUMXth century, the inventor of the pendulum clock Huygens attached a spiral hair-spring to the previous flywheel, which acted when the balance deviated from the neutral position. Thus, the first truly balanced oscillator appeared with properties similar to those of a pendulum, but with the difference that a small pendulum was required for a pendulum, and a large amplitude, on the contrary, was required.
              So the history of chronographs is yet to come.
              1. +3
                15 September 2017 14: 18
                Here was the time! Nobody was in a hurry, apparently, there were no watches and did not correspond with time. Do we have a meeting today? Yes, around noon, Monsieur. About! Now five minutes late is a whole disaster. recourse
            2. +4
              15 September 2017 14: 16
              laughed! good cool told, Doctor! drinks
              There is a similar story about the first Russian balloonist. Allegedly the slave Nikitka made wings for himself (a primitive hang glider) and, having flown from a high place, flew over the residents and guests of the capital who had fallen into a stupor. Tsar Ivan the Terrible did not appreciate the aircraft, and ordered the enthusiastic inventor to chop off his head, "man is not a bird, he does not have wings, he cannot fly, and if he flies, then from the devil". am (prototype phrase: "I put him on a barrel of gunpowder, let him fly!" fellow )
              Based on the motifs, they drew a picture, and the film was shot in 1926.

              but in fact, this legend was born thanks to the 19th century writer Opochinin, from his story "Demonic Pilot." It's a pity! request What a wonderful storyline for an article about John the Terrible: "Ivan the Terrible - a strangler of Russian aeronautics!" good You can drag and haplogroups, and Western-Jewish intrigues, and other nerdy horsemen fellow laughing uh, we would have surpassed everyone if the Jewish-Mongol liberals and the hiring of British imperialism-homosexuality Richard Chancellor (personally!) did not whisper to the kindest gullible king insidious thoughts in his left ear! angry
              1. +4
                15 September 2017 14: 28
                You wrote about Kryakutnoy. However, it has already been identified.
                “... and another one flies from the church, or from high rises, having krill (silk) krill, having ...” - “The Prayer of Daniel the Sharpener” (end of the XNUMXth – beginning of the XNUMXth centuries)
                1. +4
                  15 September 2017 14: 43
                  in the Middle Ages, as I understand it, there were many attempts to fly from a high structure. At best, pioneering inventors were breaking their legs request
                  1. +3
                    15 September 2017 17: 10
                    in the Middle Ages, as I understand it, there were many attempts to fly from a high structure.

                    Very much. Until now, these moments are inserted into films. Here are about 1630s. Smile.
                    1. +2
                      15 September 2017 22: 13
                      smiled sincerely! love I don’t know about the Turks, but the Saracens-aeronauts really were. What to say.. what I wanted a man to fly! Yes
                      I've been waiting for when a certain girl joins our discussion? wink love and dilute the hairy and steamy men's team laughing
                      1. +4
                        15 September 2017 22: 45
                        Wonderful and amazing team love , every day I enjoy reading and smiling. A good mood is always ensured by an interesting journey with excellent photos, as well as informative comments with a subtle sense of humor. The right word, sometimes the female presence is clearly superfluous, feel when there is a male conversation. But read and laugh lol no one will forbid me. Great weekend to everyone. love
                2. +2
                  15 September 2017 15: 44
                  Well, what kind of money did those silk "krill" cost !?
                  1. +5
                    15 September 2017 17: 40
                    The desire to defeat the force of gravity has always been expensive in direct and in all other senses.
                    In the novel "Peter the Great" A. Tolstoy brought out the image of the blacksmith Zhemov, who made wings.
                    The following document is stored in the Central State Archive of Ancient Acts: “On April 1695, 30, a man cried out for a guard and said the sovereign’s word, and was brought to Streletsky’s order and asked, and in question said that he would make a wing like a crane . And by order of the great princes he made mica wings for himself, and those wings became eighteen rubles from the sovereign treasury. ... and that guy arranging those wings, crossed himself as usual, and wanted to fly, but he didn’t get up. And for that he was punished: a bit by a trader, and that money was ordered to amend him and sell his stomachs ... ”
                    Eighteen rubles at that time - a lot of money.
                    But the large Chinese people did not always copy from their neighbors everything that came to hand. He owns many discoveries, including in the field of aeronautics. In any case, the study of literature leads to the conclusion that the Chinese first mastered the heroic and romantic profession of a test pilot.
                    During the Qi Dynasty, the first emperor of this dynasty, Gao Yang, ruled Northern China (550–559 CE). He lived in a tower 100 feet high, studied the Buddhist faith.
                    And so he decided to create the world's first squad of test pilots. For the first set, nobles who ruled during the previous dynasty were determined. Some of the nobles were equipped with wings of various designs of the emperor and were launched into flight from the tower. Others piloted kites. Prince Yuan Huang Tou was able to fly about two miles!
                    About 700 former officials went through this “flight squad” during the year. There were no survivors. Then the old nobles ended and flights ceased.
                    I would revive such a flight detachment for current officials.
                    1. +3
                      15 September 2017 18: 30
                      Good staff rotation! True, there are better suggestions (see R. Sheckley "Exchange of Minds")
                      As for the peasant, people were naive, they believed the state, well, I would have told the boyar gridnits, got 10 lashes at the stable and went scratching myself. And then “The word sovereign!”, Well, get the full program.
                      Meanwhile, I googled and calculated that 45-50 grams of gold cost the necessary length of silk.
                      1. +2
                        15 September 2017 19: 16
                        True, there are better suggestions (see R. Sheckley "Exchange of Minds")

                        Maybe a ticket to the planet Tranay? Where officials on the neck wore a hoop with the necessary amount of explosives, and the button for detonation was available to any citizen?
              2. +3
                15 September 2017 14: 30
                Thank you! drinks This is not I who told, but an unknown author of atheist propaganda laughing Talent! How many years have passed, but I remember everything wassat
                I think that John Vasilievich didn’t cut off his head for the serf that he started flying, but because he was the serf. laughing It should be a place to know and not embarrass other servants with devilry. Allowing one such, so everyone else can fly and will not start, but they will not ask the question, "worm, do I or do I have the right?" laughing From these thoughts in the state, different fermentations can begin. How am I Fedka, the son of Ivanov, different from the boyar Fedor? So it could have reached the Bolsheviks in the 16 century wassatwithout any Marx! Nah, the people should know their place and not keep bad thoughts in their heads (it’s better, in general, without them), “it’s said to wear round, and roll square”, so that means that. laughing
                1. +3
                  15 September 2017 14: 41
                  How am I Fedka, the son of Ivanov, different from the boyar Fedor?

                  I imagined how a serf is sitting, scratching his beard and cherishing the thought: "But .. fly away shall I go to the Don? " what
                  1. +3
                    15 September 2017 14: 49
                    It’s okay yet, they give the impression and so, the crowds went there. And if you decide that the boyar of that, to send there? And why are the boyars needed? All made from one test. To each according to his ability, to each according to his work. laughingThe whole infection began when the people had to learn to read and write, and even in commercial quantities.
              3. +4
                15 September 2017 15: 12
                No, not like that. The article should be entitled: "Ivan the Terrible - the creator of Russian air defense"!
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                  15 September 2017 16: 05
                  Oh.. belay I didn’t think about it! good yes, as you turn, it happened! Either patriots cheer, or skeptics! fellow you can even write to two authors, and then “measure” articles laughing drinks
                  1. +2
                    15 September 2017 16: 15
                    So long ago already. Viktor Nikolaevich, such a comment will give out that it’s not up to the article already. drinks
                  2. +2
                    15 September 2017 20: 26
                    Again no. Not two but three. Even Vyacheslav Olegovich will screw. He knows for sure that the best means of air defense are their tanks at another airport! laughing good
            3. +2
              15 September 2017 17: 18
              In the Polish journal "Horizons of technology" for children in 1968, this story is painted a little differently. Not a monk, but a wife, not with a stone, but with a hammer, and not for a month, but for several years he was sitting there ... But ... who knows for sure?
              1. +1
                15 September 2017 17: 31
                I remember exactly what the book was. It consisted of atheistic short stories, but this story was remembered, and moreover in detail. It’s strange. Maybe a reprint, maybe the Poles out of great love for the Germans laughing, supplemented and deepened so that it was identified for several years. Or, on the contrary, our humane considerations made a short sentence and did not leave the woman in an unsightly form in history. Although, how to look, because then they believed and to come to grips with the unclean, the spiritual forces should be great!
                1. +2
                  15 September 2017 21: 26
                  I will try to find this magazine in my archive and do what I do not like to do: in order to justify my time spent searching in the closet, I (if I find) will rewrite that material with a high level of novelty and publish it here. The essence will not be lost, but only a play on words.
                  1. +2
                    16 September 2017 04: 24
                    So, I don’t argue, Vyacheslav Olegovich. And then options with a different level of novelty in different editions were possible. A bike, it’s a bike for that.
                    1. 0
                      16 September 2017 08: 34
                      What are you ... in different publications. With your lips and honey to drink! In fact, it is very difficult to make an article based on material already published on the Web. Especially with a novelty level of 92%. Have you tried? Try for fun. Turn on the Advego anti-plagiarism program and try it. But it’s 10 times more difficult to rewrite your own version for the second time with the same level. It’s possible, I don’t argue, but the criterion of cost / effectiveness clearly says it’s unprofitable! And if you lower the% of novelty, then ... it makes no sense. Then you don’t use this material at all! Such are purely technical problems.
              2. +2
                15 September 2017 20: 33
                A common story, it looks like you and E. Lukin read some magazines (see "We rolled your sun"). “So after all, there are no others” (M. Bulgakov, “Dog’s Heart”).
        2. +3
          15 September 2017 13: 33
          and the first analog computer was invented in Ancient Greece around 100 BC laughing By the way, it would be interesting if someone wrote an article about "inappropriate artifacts." That would be a buhurt! fellow
    2. +2
      15 September 2017 07: 13
      For expensive and not always accurate
  4. +4
    15 September 2017 08: 01
    This was especially painful for the Czechs, accustomed to good beer, sausage, dumplings and smoked meat.
    ..... With love for such goodies and the face of the Mother of God you will see ...
    1. +6
      15 September 2017 11: 47
      With love for such goodies and the face of the Mother of God you will see

      as Ukurios says to fans of cheers-pseudo-history: "What was your plan?" laughing drinks
  5. 0
    15 September 2017 12: 54
    stemming from the inability to resolve the matter by the world.


    Well, yes, inability, especially when there were not enough resources for everyone.
  6. +2
    15 September 2017 19: 04
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    I think it’s not known what started after the “allies” came down: Romanians, Hungarians and other German rabble. No friends are needed with such friends, all the more so, whose leadership has already led separate negotiations with the enemy. And information is the most fluid substance.
    Legends, legends ... half of human history is based on legends. The legend of Spartacus, the legend of the bloody Duke of Alba, the legend of the lost Marshal Davout ...
    But, of course, the loss ratio of 250/8000 is unpleasantly impressive. And, by the way, Torstensson's bigography does not indicate a defeat at Brno, at least in readily available sources. The winners write history, the losers do it like this feel

    That's right. Perhaps the Swedes would have taken Brony, even if only by hunger, but the “allies” came up very dubious. Figs knows him. Maybe Torstenson was even glad that Brno could resist: if he could capture the city, then the “Allies” would have to allocate the booty, but they deserve it?
    1. +2
      15 September 2017 20: 17
      Or maybe he knew what to expect from these comrades? Or maybe it has already begun? And he commanded a retreat and saved his life, and those, and others? Herodotus knows him! History, the more insidious thing than the minefield, the more probabilistic.
  7. +2
    15 September 2017 19: 23
    Quote: Curious
    The presence of more than one mobile phone is a sign of a lack of development. In general, normal people wear Vertu do not worry.

    VERTU SIGNATURE S DESIGN CLOUS DE PARIS RED GOLD
    25 475 €
    And why are there so many phones?

    I prefer keyboard phones. Now I have a Philips Xenium, and different sensors and even more so are gold Verru and gifts
    1. +2
      15 September 2017 19: 40
      And how do you write comments on VO on your phone? And the steering wheel in your car without four holes?
      1. +2
        15 September 2017 20: 05
        Viktor Nikolaevich, do you have personal complaints about the "Monarchist"?
        1. +3
          15 September 2017 20: 11
          What are you, we are in excellent relations with him, we conduct intensive personal correspondence. This is humor. And then he believes everything, and the authors of VO take advantage of this and strive to slip all nonsense under the guise of history. I, to the best of my ability, try to protect him from these information crooks.
          1. +3
            15 September 2017 21: 36
            I will support the esteemed Monarchist. drinks I am writing from a computer, repent. recourse I don’t like the new and complicated technique, “cuckoo fingers”. And I have a keyboard telephone for the same reason. Given that I’m moving in a car, I don’t really need mobile Internet - I don’t drive it. Anyone who needs me on business can call at any time. The only inconvenience - on weekends I don’t go to the site, on the other hand, there are plenty of other things to do on the weekend. request drinks
            1. +4
              15 September 2017 22: 05

              The first "mobile", which happened to use. Weight is approximately 3 kg. But the keys are comfortable.
              1. +4
                15 September 2017 22: 17
                I have not found them. The first "mobile phone" that I had was the Radium-M radio, a heavy uncomfortable crap with frayed keys and an instantly sitting battery. negative The club could not be issued, the walkie-talkie by weight was not much less heavy. laughing
                1. +1
                  15 September 2017 22: 27
                  Yes, she doesn’t weigh a kilogram. We had such compilers in the ZHDC.
                  1. +3
                    15 September 2017 22: 38
                    and when I was a cadet .. sad
                    1. +3
                      15 September 2017 23: 03
                      And when I was a cadet, we were given one radio station for the whole company. But serious, 22 kg, if memory serves. The signalman loved her very much.
                      1. +3
                        15 September 2017 23: 24
                        progress, Viktor Nikolaevich! soon such garbage will fit in the palm of your hand .. request
          2. +3
            15 September 2017 22: 56
            Ahh, sorry for God's sake! And then I’ve been angry for some time lately, right up to the disconnection of the friend-or-foe recognition system.
  8. +2
    15 September 2017 20: 00
    avva2012,
    Yes, yes, it is, but I have already talked about the specifics of my memory.
    1. 0
      16 September 2017 04: 33
      Great memory, most importantly, she grabbed. I have the same problems.
  9. +3
    15 September 2017 22: 48
    ruskih,
    Great weekend to everyone.

    And you! love if Viktor Nikolaevich doesn’t kill me for some comparisons with bearded magicians, then I will live to see them laughing
    1. +4
      16 September 2017 00: 19
      I think what tomorrow morning, even those who wish will join Viktor Nikolaevich, so your chances are simply melting away before our eyes. fellow
      1. +4
        16 September 2017 00: 42
        Oh good night! Why don’t you sleep so late.
        1. +4
          16 September 2017 01: 33
          Elena - censure that does not sleep. stop love
          Viktor Nikolayevich - huge respect for the chivalrous attitude to the ladies. hi
          I will be beaten tomorrow by all and sundry; Stroporez, however, asked to share the "potion" laughing maybe even Saint Benjamin will kick. wassat I'll be back on Sunday afternoon, I'll give it to everyone! am from each according to his ability, to each according to his ass! angry Viktor Nikolaevich, have you read about your role on the site on the Samsonov branch? lol yeah and you kick too laughing I’ll return, I will distribute to everyone! drinks have a good rest without me! good Do not get into fights with the possessed! stop
  10. +4
    15 September 2017 23: 52
    Mikado,
    The thing is that they will insert a chip into their heads right at birth and that’s it - an ideal member of an ideal society.
    1. +5
      15 September 2017 23: 56
      an ideal member of an ideal society.

      even a corresponding member! laughing in fact, everything will be so .. God grant that we do not have to live in such a society. drinks
      "No, genatsvale! When society has no color differentiation of pants, then there is no purpose!" stop (Yuri Yakovlev, he is a patsak Bi). drinks
  11. +2
    16 September 2017 04: 28
    ruskih,
    And, Elena, you have a good weekend. So that there is enough time for such beautiful series, I know that I’m a “weekend”, especially for beautiful women: cleaning, windows, cooking. love
    1. +3
      16 September 2017 07: 18
      Good morning, Alexander! And what kind of foreign is there? About Samsonov, VN and why will Mikado be beaten? Did I miss something?
      1. +3
        16 September 2017 13: 17
        Good, I don’t know what, but good! I also requestmissed everything recourse fellow At least move to a different time zone.
        1. +1
          17 September 2017 15: 14
          It’s you, Doctor, that you simply didn’t go to the very bottom of Samsonov’s article and didn’t read which libel I wrote about you all laughing drinks from the point of view of a rabid cheer patriot stop laughing
      2. +1
        17 September 2017 15: 05
        I'll back drinks Schwartz only promised, and I came back! soldier Where is my minigun? fellow I’ll go look, it’s like they didn’t beat much. crying For the words anti-patriotic. laughing
    2. +3
      16 September 2017 08: 49
      Thank you, Alexander! love And you have a relaxing “weekend” if at work! what Beautiful series only in winter.
      Anton, you left early yesterday, so you missed a lot of interesting and funny Yes .
  12. +3
    16 September 2017 08: 39
    avva2012,
    Doctor, as an intelligent person I recommend - if you have not read it yet - A. Mirer "High Noon." This is our author, and "Ticket ..." and "Exchange ..." in soles are not suitable for this book. There is a variant of the name "House of Wanderers". I remember reading this book in 1970 and thinking, "How did you miss this from us?" But they missed ... But then they did not print it until 91 years old. But do not worry, there is nothing against the USSR.
    1. +2
      16 September 2017 09: 50
      Of course there is nothing. The book is Soviet and Mirer Soviet science fiction. The main noon is the first part. The House of Wanderers is the second, written and published in 1976. By the way, Mirer normally published.
      Maybe the CPSU Central Committee was poorly versed in fiction?
      1. +2
        16 September 2017 15: 13
        The Central Committee was not even interested in such issues. There was the Fifth Directorate of the KGB of the USSR. Moreover, the "gendarmes" themselves did not differ in cruelty to the supervised, mostly officials pressed from art.
    2. +2
      16 September 2017 13: 12
      Thanks! Strange, did not hear. Or maybe he didn’t pay attention to the author. At one time I read hard drinking, everything that turns up by the arm. The anti-Soviet, does not scare me, the problem is different, I do not like repulsive odors. hi
      1. +2
        16 September 2017 21: 09
        You just mentioned Mind Exchange. So they read, then it remains in memory. I thought that "House of Wanderers" is cooler and it will be interesting to you. That's all. There is a moment in the book about which in Soviet times it wasn’t accepted to write in the NF novels. That's all! And why not do good to a person if it costs you nothing?
        1. +1
          17 September 2017 07: 05
          Recommend a good book, is it worth nothing ??
          1. +2
            17 September 2017 15: 02
            I think nothing. drinks except a good relationship to each other! love drinks
          2. +3
            17 September 2017 17: 21
            I already wrote once, doctor, and in my opinion not once, that I believe that knowledge does not belong to people, but to God (in the broad sense of the word, it’s clear that in a bearded “comrade” in a nightgown, riding on a cloud, I don’t I believe). Therefore, knowledge should be shared without any momentary benefits and second thoughts, therefore, you cannot lie telling information, and if a person does not know something with him, you should immediately share what you know. In my opinion, you do this not so much for the other as for yourself.
    3. +2
      16 September 2017 14: 54
      Sheckley is a comedian and satirist from SF, do not ascribe political pamphlets to him. By the way, Vyacheslav Olegovich, you did not answer, are you familiar with Rybakov?
      1. +2
        16 September 2017 18: 36
        Of course not. I don’t even know who it is!
        1. +1
          17 September 2017 12: 14
          That is, "Gravilet" Tsesarevich "" You read, but do not remember the author?
          1. +1
            17 September 2017 17: 14
            I read, of course, but I don’t remember the author. I have a strange memory feature. I do not remember names and surnames well ...
  13. +1
    16 September 2017 12: 30
    Quote: Curious
    By the way, Mirer normally published

    I do not agree with you. For the time being "normal." And then no. Read his biography.
    1. +2
      16 September 2017 13: 44
      And what is outstanding there?
      1. +1
        17 September 2017 17: 28
        Nothing, gloomy techno utopia. But the exchange of minds is described more interesting than that of Sheckley!