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Specified shipbuilding program of the Russian Navy

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According to information TASS, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Vladimir Korolev announced plans to launch the second in a series of large assault ship "Peter Morgunov" in the summer of 2017.

Factory running tests of the big landing ship proceed like "Ivan Gren" [project 11711]. The second large landing ship of the 11711 project "Peter Morgunov" is under construction on the stocks of the Yantar enterprise. The hull is formed on it and the onboard systems and equipment are loaded. It is planned that "Peter Morgunov" will be launched in the summer of this year for subsequent completion works.




This ship was laid in Kaliningrad 11 June 2015 of the year. It is expected to be handed over to the Russian Navy in 2018.

Ships of project 11711 have a displacement of five thousand tons. Each of them will be able to land up to 300 marines, 40 armored personnel carriers or 13 on an unequipped coast tanks. The range of ships will be up to 4000 miles, which will allow them to perform tasks in the far sea zone.

Also, the admiral explained that the surrender of the Navy frigates project 22350 assumed to be 2020 year.

State tests of the head frigate “Admiral Gorshkov” (project 22350) are underway. All head ships of new projects are especially demanding and scrupulous for the main command of the Navy, in this matter we closely interact with industry. In the period up to 2020, the construction of a series of frigates of the 22350 project is planned - four hulls.


Specified shipbuilding program of the Russian Navy


As previously announced by the head of the Russian Navy’s shipbuilding department, Vladimir Tryapichnikov, the transfer of four ships of the 22350 project is expected to be before the 2025 of the year, after which this project will be modernized. Apparently, there was a view of the implementation of the naval program under the new LG, calculated to 2025 year. Therefore, the words of V. Korolev should be considered not as an adjustment of the deadlines for the delivery of ships, but as a clarification.

As commander-in-chief V. Korolev pointed out, in the coming days, at the Severnaya Verf enterprise in St. Petersburg a new corvette of the 20385 project “Gremyashchy”, equipped with a high-precision weapons and engines manufactured in Russia.
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  1. John_f
    John_f 27 June 2017 08: 20
    +1
    need more modern ships! soldier
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 27 June 2017 08: 23
      +16
      Quote: John_f
      need more modern ships! soldier

      need more "fresh thoughts."
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 27 June 2017 08: 26
        +15
        Need more gold!
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 27 June 2017 08: 38
          +6
          Control over proper execution is needed.
          1. cniza
            cniza 27 June 2017 08: 46
            +3
            We all know what is needed, and our rulers do not believe and continue to experiment.
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 27 June 2017 11: 24
              +6
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              need more "fresh thoughts."

              Quote: vovanpain
              Control over proper execution is needed.

              Quote: cniza
              We all know what is needed, and our rulers do not believe and continue to experiment.

              ... yeah, citizens Shipbuilders ... maybe even begin to think before writing? ... on shipbuilding:
              On June 14, 2017, the final delivery of the elements of the Goliath crane to the site of the Zvezda shipbuilding complex (Bolshoi Kamen, Primorsky Territory) took place. Currently, the supplier’s specialists are preparing for the assembly and installation of the crane in the design position. This was reported by "I-Mash. Resource of mechanical engineering" with reference to Dmitry Dolmatov, deputy head of the department for the installation of technological equipment of the Directorate for the Construction of SSK Zvezda.

              Fixed support elements, crane running gears, flange joints, as well as the lower cargo carriage were delivered on the Xin Si Lu vessel, the source said.

              Shipment was carried out under the contract for the supply of crane equipment for an open outfitting slipway concluded between Zvezda DVZ JSC and Nantong COSCO Heavy Industry Co., Ltd.

              As previously reported, the cranes were manufactured under a joint contract between Zvezda and China Heavy Industry Corporation Nantong (CHIC). In total, under its terms, the Chinese company will supply 2017 units of equipment to the city of Bolshoi Kamen by the end of 5: two cranes with a lifting capacity of 320 tons and two cranes with a lifting capacity of 100 tons, as well as a Goliath crane with a lifting capacity of 1200 tons. Source: http://sudostroenie.info/novosti/19662.html
              ... Photo ...
              1. Mystery12345
                Mystery12345 27 June 2017 11: 48
                +2
                Quote: Inok10
                maybe even begin to think before writing?

                Well, you're a "monk" awesome "thinker" on any topic! genius! bought cranes with a cargo truck, and at the exit, the same 4 ships by the year 25 ... Aptimist, you are ours .. wassat
                1. Inok10
                  Inok10 27 June 2017 17: 44
                  +4
                  Quote: Mystery12345
                  Well, you're a "monk" awesome "thinker" on any topic! genius!

                  ... enviously? ... these are your problems ... and there is no reason to turn to personalities and try to be rude .... the rules of a good tone in VO have not been canceled ... hi
                  Quote: Mystery12345
                  bought cranes with a cargo truck, and at the exit, the same 4 ships by the year 25 ... Aptimist, you are ours ..

                  ... well, the acre "gee-gee" did not expect another from your Personnel ... by 2020, the "Star" in service with Goliath in 1200 tons, until 2025 you can already build more than one ship, especially by using the large-site assembly method, in addition, by 2020, Severnaya Verf completes the reconstruction and receives Goliath in a closed boathouse by 2023 ... the ships need to be built somewhere ... they didn’t draw it and the fleet is there ... well, you and others like you. keep crying and nibbling a cactus ... tongue
              2. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 28 June 2017 14: 07
                +6
                If I’m not mistaken, then the problem in the sectional (fast) construction of large-tonnage vessels was also in the absence of such cranes? Will it go faster now?
      2. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 27 June 2017 08: 55
        +1
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: John_f
        need more modern ships! soldier

        need more "fresh thoughts."

        and less useless ships ...
      3. avt
        avt 27 June 2017 09: 11
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        need more modern ships!
        need more "fresh thoughts."

        HOORAY! HOORAY! Enough! Fool people with promises! It's time to get down to business! There is a lot of work ahead! We will build the Institute of Higher Mathematics! Free showers will open in the country! Every resident of Anchuria will have their own gramophone! But, today, at dawn, the former president of the republic, a villain, a puppet and an adventurer, Miraflores, fled from the capital. He fled with a traveling bag, which contains all the state of the republic! He took away a bag and dancer Isabella! I urge all patriots to catch this monster in the image of a gorilla and return to the people all the state of the republic! One hundred thousand!
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 27 June 2017 09: 27
          +4
          Quote: avt
          Every resident of Anchuria will have their own gramophone!

          bully “Big Shark” do you want to become the president of Anchuria? Moreover, the former president fled from it!
          1. avt
            avt 27 June 2017 09: 53
            +2
            Quote: Serg65
            “Big Shark” do you want to become the president of Anchuria?

            As soon as you return the runaway dancer Isabella with a bag of heritage of the republic, I will immediately take up the post! bully
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 27 June 2017 11: 44
              +3
              Quote: avt
              so I’ll immediately take up the post!

              laughing What commercialism, who would have thought?
              1. avt
                avt 27 June 2017 17: 28
                +3
                Quote: Serg65
                What commercialism, who would have thought?

                I agree to the return of one of Isabella. bully
      4. Serg65
        Serg65 27 June 2017 09: 24
        +3
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        need more "fresh thoughts."

        And less tears wink
      5. NEXUS
        NEXUS 27 June 2017 09: 33
        +5
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        need more "fresh thoughts."

        The namesake, we would have to learn to do something with those that are thoughts. New thoughts every month, new projects, and then we don’t have a fleet with such a variety of ships and submarines with identical tasks and capabilities that, if the series turns out, it’s very small. An example of a “new thought” is a project of PL Lada, WITHOUT VNEU. That is, the same Varshavyanka, in fact, with slightly improved some characteristics.
        1. Mystery12345
          Mystery12345 27 June 2017 11: 50
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          The namesake, we would have to learn to do something with those that are thoughts.

          maybe Comrade Nexus, draw and ... to the table. to the "leader" and others ...?
        2. Every
          Every 28 June 2017 14: 05
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          need more "fresh thoughts."

          The namesake, we would have to learn to do something with those that are thoughts. New thoughts every month, new projects, and then we don’t have a fleet with such a variety of ships and submarines with identical tasks and capabilities that, if the series turns out, it’s very small. An example of a “new thought” is a project of PL Lada, WITHOUT VNEU. That is, the same Varshavyanka, in fact, with slightly improved some characteristics.


          Yeah, the assorted among ships and submarines is just killing. The fleet looks like it’s gathered different ships from the world. Sense of such a fleet?
    2. 210ox
      210ox 27 June 2017 08: 36
      0
      Enchanting comment .... Or maybe for a start to raise the shipyards themselves, subcontractors and design bureaus. Without reducing of course the very release of the ships ..
      Quote: John_f
      need more modern ships! soldier
      1. yehat
        yehat 27 June 2017 09: 52
        0
        the only way to "raise" is to place orders, gradually increasing the share of their components. And now this is unrealistic.
      2. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 27 June 2017 10: 29
        +1
        or maybe it’s still worth turning on your head and doing not the “modern” ships but the “most optimal” ones? and since 2000 we have been building six different types of ships to solve one combat mission fool
    3. san4es
      san4es 27 June 2017 08: 46
      +8
      Need more work and less tryndet am
    4. yehat
      yehat 27 June 2017 09: 51
      0
      need more ports
    5. Grafova Irina
      Grafova Irina 25 December 2017 18: 44
      0
      What kind of shisha, sorry?
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 27 June 2017 08: 22
    +2
    transfer of four ships of project 22350 is expected until 2025
    the Chinese smiled indulgently ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 27 June 2017 08: 25
      +6
      Peter-1 would be very unhappy with the pace and the number of ships under construction!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 June 2017 08: 52
        +5
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Peter-1 would be very unhappy with the pace and the number of ships under construction!

        Peter 1 would not understand at all how iron can float
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 27 June 2017 09: 12
          +7
          Peter-1 was far from a stupid person and managed to establish shipbuilding in Russia!
          And to you, comrade monarchist, a huge minus for belittling the importance of the Emperor of All Russia Peter-1.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 June 2017 09: 31
            +1
            Quote: Uncle Lee
            And to you, comrade monarchist, a huge minus for belittling the importance of the Emperor of All Russia Peter-1.

            Pffffffff, I will sob for a week laughing
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 27 June 2017 09: 35
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              I will sob

              Sorry ! But such is the homespun truth! crying crying
        2. Serg65
          Serg65 27 June 2017 09: 30
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Peter 1 would not understand at all how iron can float

          laughing good Peter would definitely tell his head to chop off dreamers who wanted to build ships out of iron!
        3. ProkletyiPirat
          ProkletyiPirat 27 June 2017 10: 33
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Peter-1 would be very unhappy with the pace and the number of ships under construction!

          Peter 1 would not understand at all how iron can float

          Archimedes law remember? In what century did this Archimedes live? and in which Peter 1?
    2. Dangerous
      Dangerous 27 June 2017 08: 30
      +3
      So what. I sat down today at the computer, read about the deadlines for delivery of ships and thought. And maybe it’s not in vain that our lead ships and boats can’t pass for 5-7 years after launching. Maybe they really thoroughly check that a series without "children's" and "adult" diseases is. And the Chinese are punching, but you never know, suddenly they have sores then which will come to light.
      But he drank a seagull with a sandwich and realized that all this is nonsense and excuses. From 2017 to 2025, 4 frigates to build, especially less than 5000 tons - we will never get out of the bottom.
      Have a nice and productive day!
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        1. Serg65
          Serg65 27 June 2017 09: 43
          +3
          hi Welcome Rudolph!
          Quote: rudolff
          It’s better not to compare such rates with the Chinese.

          Man, where was China when the first "Beast" so beloved was laid by you? And what did we do with our own hands that China would get ahead of us? Is the Russian Navy now starting the next cycle of its revival or is it not?
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            1. Serg65
              Serg65 27 June 2017 12: 05
              +3
              Quote: rudolff
              I don’t already know which cycle the Russian Navy begins. Deja vu!

              What did you want, Buddy? Most of the factories producing components for military shipbuilding remained abroad in Russia, and this is not a couple of dozen factories! So citizens are jumping - the bosses from project to project on the principle of at least making something out of what is. Take the same ave. 11711. Why and for what ?? I understand - a modernized version of "Topira", but why was the garden fenced? Ave. 775 proved to be excellent, with lesser displacement, the landing capabilities are exactly the same as those of the Grena. Only one minus was made by the “Toad” in Poland and during the divorce between the countries no one took care of the technical documentation to return to their homeland! This is how we live, we believe that we are not the decree smarter than everyone else’s mistakes!
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              2. ProkletyiPirat
                ProkletyiPirat 27 June 2017 14: 18
                0
                Quote: Serg65
                So citizens are jumping - the bosses from project to project on the principle of at least making something out of what is.

                Just jump in the wrong direction! Why the hell to produce 6 types of ships for one combat mission? The military-industrial complex was not even able to unify the propulsion system and is now forced to produce several different piece copies! fool
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 27 June 2017 14: 35
                  +2
                  Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                  Just jump in the wrong direction!

                  Do you know where to go?
                  Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                  Why the hell to produce 6 types of ships for one combat mission?

                  laughing You are an interesting comrade, you ask a question yourself and answer it yourself right away! And answer correctly, but at the same time interpret your answer incorrectly ...
                  Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                  The military-industrial complex was not even able to unify the propulsion system and is now forced to produce several different piece units

                  And why the military-industrial complex could not unify? Have you ever thought?
                  1. ProkletyiPirat
                    ProkletyiPirat 27 June 2017 17: 41
                    0
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Do you know where to go?

                    Only descendants can “know”, contemporaries can only have an “opinion”, “one’s own / another’s”, “good / bad”, etc. but ONLY "opinion". I have an opinion, my opinion, it is mine personally, and not taken from somewhere. But neither I nor you have the opportunity to realize this opinion, even partially
                    Quote: Serg65

                    Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                    Why the hell to produce 6 types of ships for one combat mission?

                    laughing You are an interesting comrade, you ask a question yourself and answer it yourself right away! And answer correctly, but at the same time interpret your answer incorrectly ...

                    It was rather a rhetorical question. smile
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                    The military-industrial complex was not even able to unify the propulsion system and is now forced to produce several different piece units

                    And why the military-industrial complex could not unify? Have you ever thought?

                    I’ve thought about it, and I know perfectly well the answer, I will quote the phrase I heard once and then strike my mind “why isn’t it there? Yes, nobody needs it on X!”, Like this in the Navy, some cannot, others don’t, others do not know and do not want to know ...
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 28 June 2017 07: 19
                      +3
                      Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                      Only descendants can “know”, contemporaries can only have an “opinion”, “one’s own / another’s”, “good / bad”, etc. but ONLY "opinion". I have an opinion, my opinion, it is mine personally, and not taken from somewhere. But neither I nor you have the opportunity to realize this opinion, even partially

                      what Nifiga you wrapped yourself !!!! Such philosophical thoughts are hard for me in the morning recourse
                      Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                      like this in the Navy, some cannot, others do not want, others do not know and do not want to know ...

                      Here is an incomplete list of factories of the Ukrainian SSR that worked at the Navy of the USSR.
                      Kiev Research Institute of Hydraulic Instruments
                      NGO "Mashproekt"
                      PO "Zorya"
                      Kherson State Plant "Pallada"
                      Kiev State Plant "Petrel"
                      Research Institute "Quantum"
                      NPO Luch
                      ON "LORTA"
                      63th boiler and welding plant
                      Izyum Instrument Making Plant
                      Kiev factory "Generator"
                      Carpathian Radio Plant
                      Photopribor factory
                      Mukachevo plant "Tochpribor"
                      Lviv plant of measuring instruments
                      Theodosia Optical and Mechanical Plant.
                      This is only part of the defense plants of Soviet Ukraine that worked for the Navy, and also a bunch of factories in the remaining 13 republics of the USSR!
                      Yes, and mind you, I did not name not one shipyard, but there were as many as 6 of them in Ukraine!
                      Building ships is not a problem - it's like LEGO, just give the dice, here is the dice problem! To create a new production base, which was built for decades, is the problem! Therefore..
                      Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                      "why isn’t it there? Yes, nobody needs it on X!"

                      It is simply a degree of incompetence at best, at worst a special creation of a negative attitude towards the authorities. hi
                      1. ProkletyiPirat
                        ProkletyiPirat 28 June 2017 19: 48
                        0
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                        "why isn’t it there? Yes, nobody needs it on X!"

                        It is simply a degree of incompetence at best, at worst a special creation of a negative attitude towards the authorities. hi

                        Assessing the competence of an avatar on the Internet is the height of rationality! hi
                        here's a simple question, which research institute is engaged in conceptual and technical analysis of the navy of the russian federation? Yes, there are excellent specialists in scientific-engineering, production and military-practical analysis, but what good is it if there are no specialists in conceptual-technical analysis who would link all the other analyzes together? Well, here’s just an example of the most banal project 22350, the range of 4 miles (at 000 knots) according to Wikipedia, 14 * 4000 = 1,85 km, the distance between St. Petersburg and Sevastopol is 7400k, where will you refuel the ship? Do you think the NATO countries will refuel in case of hostilities? ahh, i guessed it! probably we will argue with the tanker! one strike on one ship from one submarine and the entire squadron will not return home hi This is just one tiny example of a mistake in conducting a conceptual and technical analysis.
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 27 June 2017 09: 32
        +3
        Quote: Dangerous
        But drank a seagull with a sandwich

        what Oh, you shouldn’t have tea with a sandwich, it was necessary on the contrary, a sandwich with tea!
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 27 June 2017 08: 50
      +3
      Well, China has two trump cards:
      1) Excellent shipbuilding industry.
      2) A different approach to the formation of the mission on the ship. If the same Navy lays high% of new and at the time of the assignment usually does not exist equipment. China does otherwise - it uses the evolutionary path. Gradually improving. For example - a new building (052В) and a bunch of systems left with beam Calm (vertical the Chinese only financed) on 2 beams and Frigate. At the same time, the top of 051С (old building) - came out with 6 drums С-300 (a certain mixture of С-300ПМУ + Ф + of their own). But the next 052С - already went with canvases in the superstructure and С-300 (HHQ-9) with a new rocket (partially sorted out by the Chinese). But 052D - comes with new canvases and new launchers of a universal type on 64 units. Next they say the head 055 has already been rolled out for a descent ... Maybe they slander, but such a speed even for China is too much. We’ll wait for officialdom in the coming weeks.

      If it transfers to the Navy - then the Navy would immediately order a ship of the 052D or 055 level - being at the level of readiness of the industry for 052B / 051C.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 27 June 2017 09: 36
        +7
        Quote: donavi49
        Well, China has two trump cards:

        That's it. China has two trump cards!
        1. They did not accept the path of Mikhail Sergeyevich.
        2. Dali in the ass "on children" in Tiananmen Square.
        It was these trump cards that the USSR-Russia profiled!
        1. Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 12 July 2017 21: 23
          0
          that's it! China also has a billion people
    4. creak
      creak 27 June 2017 11: 05
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      the transfer of the four ships of the project 22350 is expected in the period until 2025, the Chinese smiled indulgently ...

      Launching the 24th frigate - the whole series was built in 9 years ...
  3. askme
    askme 27 June 2017 08: 39
    +1
    Everything is fine. During the same time, two dozen corvettes of all series will surrender to the fleet. Already, almost a dozen and a half on the slipways + at the outfitting wall.
    1. Looking for
      Looking for 27 June 2017 16: 01
      -1
      From the slipway to the transfer to the fleet, sometimes a dozen years pass. Compare at least the telephone of 2007 and 2017.
  4. forcecom
    forcecom 27 June 2017 10: 31
    +3
    It is necessary to develop what is usually not written on the front pages of newspapers - it is necessary to develop a normal basing system and coastal support. In the USSR, in the pursuit of the United States, ships were built but did not have time to deploy basements for them, Russia after 1991 lost almost the entire basing system (something remained behind the cordon, something fell apart and looted in the 90s), we won’t have a normal basing system will rot again.
  5. megadeth
    megadeth 27 June 2017 10: 48
    0
    We don’t need the latest ships, all the same, our government isn’t afraid of Americans, and everybody who is not lazy is knocking us down, bombing, etc. preparations, but the coalition will adequately respond with a blow to a blow .... whether they can .... I doubt it ... (for sofas ...., the term of service is 32 years)
  6. LPD17
    LPD17 27 June 2017 13: 08
    0
    three to four cemeteries are needed to fight corruption
    1. Looking for
      Looking for 27 June 2017 16: 03
      -1
      Absolutely. And the nation will be grateful.
  7. Music
    Music 27 June 2017 17: 08
    0
    Do our admirals think they are big? They can still be considered average ....
  8. Every
    Every 28 June 2017 17: 48
    0
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    transfer of four ships of project 22350 is expected until 2025
    the Chinese smiled indulgently ...


    They will not smile, once to them. For 10 years already the 24th frigate of project 054A (amended 11356) was put into operation and are not going to stop.
    We only have snot chewing over two buildings - the poor, unfortunate, have thrown us Ukraine, we can’t finish anything now, but burn it with a blue flame - we’ll sell it and we’ll sell it.
  9. Serg65
    Serg65 29 June 2017 07: 04
    +5
    ProkletyiPirat,
    Quote: ProkletyiPirat
    the distance between Peter and Sevastopol 9000к, you refuel the ship where will you be?

    My dear friend, I will not refuel them anywhere, because sending surface ships during the fighting around Europe is the height of insanity, and besides, these ships will be sunk in Belta! Well, if it’s so hard to send frigates from Baltiysk to Sevastopol or for a turn, then there is a system developed for the transfer of ships along the rivers that was developed under the Union. Yes, of course you can argue that the frigate has a sediment of 4,5 meter, which rivers are partly right, but when in the city of Gorky, where there were dark nights, there was a Central Design Bureau-112 Lazurit and the Krasnoye Sormovo plant, and so these comrades built nuclear submarines in particular pr. 945 with draft 9.62 meters! You must admit that the draft 9.62 m is much larger than the draft 4.5 m. But this is not an option, with modern methods of warfare, no one will let you conduct the second campaign of Admiral Rozhdestvensky! hi
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 29 June 2017 21: 41
      0
      Quote: Serg65
      these comrades built the nuclear submarines in particular pr. 945 with a draft of 9.62 meters!

      And so you served on this ship hi A very good ship, the characteristics are quite.

      Christmas 1st would not have been better. And from the 2nd we will not promise that the samurai will think of anything ..... though they have not yet departed from Khalkhin-Gol. But international politics is hectic ...... who knows.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 30 June 2017 06: 06
        +2
        Quote: Novel 11
        And so you served on this ship

        No, Roman, God had mercy smile , I certainly respect the guys from the submarine - people are heroes, but I myself was not eager to be a submariner. He served on pr.1135-1135М, i.e. ball an irreconcilable "enemy" of the submarine bully
    2. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 12 July 2017 21: 25
      0
      frigates through the gdp will not pass, bitter is not the Baltic, but the corvettes are yes, so the marine fleets need to be equipped with ships of the third rank
  10. Roman 11
    Roman 11 29 June 2017 21: 42
    0
    And yet, these 5th Landing Troops were not prevented.
  11. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 12 July 2017 21: 21
    0
    ProkletyiPirat,
    let it be known to you, in the event of a war with NATO, the transition from the black to the Baltic Sea of ​​surface ships of any type and fuel supply is impossible (even a successful passage of the submarine through the Bosphorus is unlikely)