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Russian fleet in the First World War and its combat effectiveness. Part of 5

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During the war, the Northern Maritime Theater was founded. After the outbreak of war, Russia lost contact with its allies through the Black and Baltic Seas. Accelerated development of the already existing ports on the White Sea and the construction of new ones on the Barents Sea began, as well as the reconstruction of the Arkhangelsk-Vologda railway, the construction of the Murmansk railway and the establishment of a system for the protection of maritime communications.


All this required the involvement of large resources, the lack of which was the reason that their implementation was delayed. The reconstruction of the Arkhangelsk-Vologda railway ended in January 1916, and the construction of the Murmansk road was completed in 1917. Observation posts were set up in the throat of the White Sea, and a battery of 4-47-mm guns was installed on Mudyug Island.

Already at the end of 1914, the enemy began to lay mines, and at the beginning of the navigation of 1915, the German command sent an auxiliary cruiser, Meteor, into the throat of the White Sea - he put 285 mines. A number of merchant ships died on the mines and the British auxiliary cruiser Arlanz was blown up. Since June 1915, the defense of the Arkhangelsk port and the protection of maritime communications in the theater of operations have become more organized and effective.

In July 1916, an order to form flotilla Of the Arctic Ocean. The flotilla was supposed to include a cruising detachment, a trawling division, defense units of the Kola Bay, Arkhangelsk port, as well as a communications and surveillance service. The main tasks of the flotilla are: escorting ships in mine-hazardous areas, security, sentinel service, coastal defense.

In 1916, the construction of a base began in the depths of the Kola Bay - near the Semenovye Islands. A trade port was built in the Kola Bay near the village of Romanov (the future Murmansk).

The German command, assessing the importance of the northern maritime communications that linked Russia with its allies on the Entente and neutral states, sent submarines in the second half of 1916 for active operations in this theater. In August and September, German submarine minzagi installed 72 mines at the entrance to the throat of the White Sea - several ships were killed. Since September, 1916, enemy submarines began to appear on the outskirts of the Kola Bay.

The Russian command took measures on anti-submarine defense, reducing the losses to a minimum by October.

In the 1917, in the composition of the fleet of the Arctic including: Battleship ( "Chesma"), 2 cruiser ( "Varyag" and "Askold"), 4 destroyers, destroyer 2, 3 submarine minelayer, 40-trawlers and trawlers boats 2 icebreaker and up to 20 auxiliary ships.

Russian fleet in the First World War and its combat effectiveness. Part of 5

1. "Chesma".

In the North Sea Theater, the enemy lost 3 submarines: U 56 (sunk by the destroyer Thunderstorm), U 76 (destroyed by minesweepers) and U 28 (killed by an explosion of attacked vehicles with military cargo).


2. U-28 in 1915 from the seized vessel.

The young fleet declared itself in full voice.

In 1917 on the Black Sea, the fleet continued fighting on enemy communications, making it difficult to deliver weapons and food of the Turkish army on the Caucasian front, shelling coastal objects, blocked the Bosphorus.

The main event for the Baltic Fleet weakened by the revolution in 1917 was the participation in the Moonsund operation.

The final contribution of the Russian fleet to the victory of the Entente is expressed in the following figures (See: Aleksandrov, Yu. I. Domestic submarines before the 1918 of the year (reference book). SPb., 2002; Apalkov, Yu. V. Warships of the Russian fleet 08. 1914 10. 1917. Reference book. St. Petersburg, 1996; It is the German Navy 1914-1918. Reference book on the ship composition // Maritime collection. 1996. No. 3; Ozarovsky N. Yu. -1914 M.-L., 1917; Puzyrevsky KP Ship damage from artillery and the struggle for survivability. L., 1941; Puzyrevsky K. P. Damage orablay from underwater explosions and the struggle for survivability. L. - M., 1940; Pakhomov N. A. Armored cruisers of Germany. 1938-1886. Samara, 1918; Trubitsyn S. B. Light cruisers of Germany (2006-1914). Spb., 1918; It is the same. German destroyers and destroyers (1997-1871). Spb., 1918; Russian Imperial Navy and German and Turkish fleets. Pg., 2000; N. Khromov. Submarine forces of the Baltic Fleet 1915 -1906. Kaliningrad, 2006); Shishov A. A. German Navy losses in World War I 2006-1914 SPb., 1918).

Destroyed enemy ship, cause and date of death, theater, operation
"Magdeburg", light cruiser - 13. 08. 1914 g., Sat on the rocks o. Odenholm, blown up by the crew and finished off with the Bogatyr and Pallas cruisers, 15 people died. 1914, Baltic.
"Gerda", auxiliary patrol ship - 16/08/1914, mine explosion. 1914, Baltic.
Temesh, monitor - 10. 10. 1914, the mine exploded on the river. Sawa, 31 people died. 1914, Danube theater.
Augustenburg, auxiliary patrol ship - 21. 10. 1914, a mine exploded, 6 people died. 1914, Baltic.
"Frederick Karl", armored cruiser - 4. 11. 1914, explosives in mines near Danzig Bay, 7 people died. 1914, Baltic.
Blocksheets "Elf", "Julia", "Martha", "Martial" - 4. 11. 1914 was flooded by crews at Libau. 1914, Baltic.
"Nilufer", minelayer - 6. 11. 1914, a mine exploded. 1914, Black Sea.
"Ron", minelayer - 17. 12. 1914, a mine exploded. 1914, Black Sea.
Hohenzollern tug - 03. 01. 1915, a mine exploded, 16 people died. 1915, Baltic.
Gazelle, light cruiser - 12. 01. 1915, written off after the blast on a Russian mine. 1915, Baltic.
Nevsehir, gunboat - 17. 01. 1915, explosive mine 1915, Black Sea.
“Medzhidiye”, light cruiser - 21. 03. 1915, the mine exploded at Odessa 1915, Black Sea.
T 57, minesweeper (ships of the type T43 were called destroyers-minesweepers. Depending on the tasks in the operation when the ship was killed, we call either the destroyer or minesweeper. Of the 12, the 10 series ships were killed by Russian weapons) - 23. 03. 1915, explosive mine 1915, Baltic.
T 47, minesweeper - 16. 05. 1915, an explosion on a mine of the Amur minzag, 20 people died. 1915, Baltic.
T 51, minesweeper - 16. 05. 1915, an explosion on a mine of the Amur minzag, 20 people died. 1915, Baltic.
“Gzinder”, hydroaviatransport - 21. 05. 1915 was blown up by a mine and disarmed. 1915, Baltic.
"Dora Hugo Steennes 12", fleet coal worker - 23. 05. 1915, sunk by a British submarine. 1915, Baltic.
“Bunt Kuh”, the minesweeper - 15. 06. 1915, the mine exploded, killed 1 people. 1915, Baltic.
"Ursula Fisher", transport - 18. 06. 1915, a mine exploded on a Russian destroyer mine. 1915, Baltic.
"Albatross", a mine cruiser - 19. 06. 1915, after a battle with the Russian cruisers, rushed ashore on. Gotland, 28 people died. 1915, Baltic, Gotland Fight
V 107, small destroyer - 26. 07. 1915, the mine exploded at Libau. 1915, Baltic.
T 52, minesweeper - 26. 07. 1915, explosive mine 1915, Baltic Irbenskaya operation.
T 58, minesweeper - 26. 07. 1915, a mine exploded, 17 people died. 1915, Baltic Irben operation.
T 46, minesweeper - 03. 08. 1915, a mine exploded, 17 people died. 1915, Baltika, Irben operation.
V 99, the destroyer - 04. 08. 1915, died in the Gulf of Riga (during the artillery battle with the destroyer Novik was severely damaged and forced to leave the minefield), 21 people died. 1915, Baltika, Irben operation.
S 31, the destroyer - 06. 08. 1915, explosive mine 1915, Baltika, Irben operation.
Osh, City of Berlin, Iris - 07. 08. 1915, flooded near Pernova. 1915, Baltika, Irben operation.
Breslau, transport - 24. 08. 1915 g., Exploded on a Russian mine in Danzig Bay. 1915, Baltic.
Wilcomen, fleet tanker - 30. 09. 1915, explosive mine 1915, Baltic.
U 26, submarine - 09. 1915, a mine exploded, 30 people died. 1915, Baltic.
"Prince Adalbert", armored cruiser - 10. 10. 1915, torpedoed by the English submarine E-8 at Libava, 672 man was killed 1915, Baltic.
Ondine, light cruiser - 25. 10. 1915 drowned. Submarine E-19, killed 14 people. 1915, Baltic.
And 3, destroyer - 25. 10. 1915, explosive mine 1915, Baltic.
Burgermeister Petersen, fleet tanker - 29. 10. 1915, explosive mine 1915, Baltic.
"Norburg", the patrol ship - 7. 11. 1915 g., As a result of the raid of Russian destroyers. 1915, Baltic.
"Tashkopr", gunboat - 27. 11. 1915, artillery fire destroyers. 1915, Black Sea.
“Yozgat”, gunboat - 27. 11. 1915, artillery fire destroyers. 1915, Black Sea.
UС 13, submarine - 15. 11. 1915 was storm cast ashore by the Russian ships. 1915, Black Sea
"Bremen", light cruiser - 4. 12. 1915, an explosion on a Russian mine, 250 people died. 1915, Baltic.
S 191, the destroyer - 4. 12. 1915, a mine exploded. 1915, Baltic.
S 177, the big destroyer - 10. 12. 1915, explosive mine 1915, Baltic.
Freya, patrol ship (former cruiser) - 10. 12. 1915, an explosion on a Russian mine, 22 people died. 1915, Baltic.
"Binz", the patrol ship - 12. 1915, a mine exploded. 1915, Baltic.
G 194, the big destroyer - 13. 03. 1916, explosive mine 1916, Baltic.
Hamburg, Lugger - 01. 05. 1916, explosive mine 1916, Baltic
Hermann, auxiliary cruiser and 2 armed with 18 trawler. 05. 1916, sunk by torpedoes in a battle with destroyers, 40 killed people 1916, Baltic, battle in Norrköping Bay
U 10, submarine in May 1916, explosive mine, killed 30 people 1916, Baltic
Vessel trap H 01. 06. 1916, sunk by the destroyer Novik 1916, Baltic
V 162, the big destroyer 02. 08. 1916, explosive mine 1916, Baltic
Siemens Schukert 2, powerboat 27. 08. 1916, explosive mine, killed 10 people 1916, Baltic
Noisy, 29 Destroyer. 08. 1916, mine explosions near Varna 1916, Black Sea
Kutachia, 01 destroyer. 09. 1916, explosive mine 1916, Black Sea
Malatya, the gunboat 04. 09. 1916, explosive mine 1916, Black Sea
T 64, 10 minesweeper. 10. 1916, explosive mine 1916, Baltic
F 2, 25 minesweeper. 10. 1916, a mine exploded in the Irbene Strait, 1916, Baltic
Erkner 1, powerboat 25. 10. 1916, a mine exploded in the Irbene Strait, 1916, Baltic
S 57, the destroyer 29. 10. 1916, explosive mine, killed 2 man 1916, Baltic. Operation 10 of the mine flotilla to break into the Gulf of Finland
V 75, the destroyer 29. 10. 1916, explosive mine, killed 3 man 1916, Baltic. 10 Flotilla operation
S 58, the destroyer 30. 10. 1916, explosive mine 1916, Baltic. 10 Flotilla operation
S 59, the destroyer 30. 10. 1916, explosive mine 1916, Baltic. 10 Flotilla operation
V 72, the destroyer 30. 10. 1916, explosive mine 1916, Baltic. 10 Flotilla operation
V 76, the destroyer 30. 10. 1916, explosive mine, killed 1 people 1916, Baltic. 10 Flotilla operation
G 90, the destroyer 30. 10. 1916, explosive mine, killed 11 people 1916, Baltic. 10 Flotilla operation
U 56, submarine 20. 10. 1916, destroyed by a destroyer, killed 35 people 1916, Northern Sea Theater (Barents Sea)
UB 45, submarine 24. 10. 1916, mine explosions near Varna 1916, Black Sea
UB 7, submarine 10. 1916, destroyed by a Russian seaplane, 15 killed people 1916, Black Sea
UC 15, 11 Small Underwater Minelayer. 1916, explosive mine, killed 15 people 1916, Black Sea
Patrol boats № 12 and № 16 8. 12. 1916, the fire of the cruiser "Memory of Mercury" at the Bosphorus 1916, Black Sea
UB 46, submarine 26. 11. 1916, died on mines set by 234 TShK, 20 killed people 1916, Black Sea
U 76, submarine 12. 01. 1917, sunk by surface ships artillery, 1 people were killed 1917, Northern Sea Theater (Barents Sea)
U 28, submarine 20. 08. 1917, during an attack of transport, 28 people were killed 1917, Northern Sea Theater (White Sea)
Neutzleichter V, 15 network lighter. 09. 1917, explosive mine, killed 13 people 1917, Baltic
T 54, destroyer 23. 09. 1917, explosive mine, killed 7 people 1917, Baltic
M 31, 25 minesweeper. 09. 1917, explosive mine, killed 2 man 1917, Baltic, Operation Albion
The destroyer type "S" "Dolphin" 01. 10. 1917, explosive mine, killed 22 man 1917, Baltic, Operation Albion
Destroyer type "S" "Altair" 01. 10. 1917, explosive mine, killed 10 people 1917, Baltic, Operation Albion
S 64, the destroyer 04. 10. 1917, explosive mine, killed 6 people 1917, Baltic, Operation Albion
T 66, destroyer 05. 10. 1917 - killed by mines in the Gulf of Riga 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
T 54, destroyer 06. 10. 1917, explosive mine 1917, Baltic, Operation "Albion"
T 56, destroyer 03. 10. 1917, died of artillery fire, rushing to the shore 1917, Baltic, Operation "Albion"
Roland III, the minesweeper 08. 10. 1917, explosive mine, killed 7 people 1917, Baltic, Operation Albion
Destroyer type "S" "Gutgeyl» 09. 10. 1917, explosive mine 1917, Baltic, Operation "Albion"
"Gluckstadt", the destroyer type S 09. 10. 1917, rushed to the shore 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
F 3, 11 minesweeper. 10. 1917, explosive mine 1917, Baltic, Operation "Albion"
And 32, the destroyer 12. 10. 1917, explosive mine 1917, Baltic, Operation "Albion"
Tarask, the minesweeper 13. 10. 1917, tipped over and sank. 1917, Baltika, Operation Albion
"Kibweider", destroyer type S 13. 10. 1917, rushed to the shore 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
M 68, 16 minesweeper. 10. 1917, explosive mine, killed 1 people 1917, Baltic, Operation Albion
Binet, 17 minesweeper. 10. 1917 g., Shot, sank 1917, Baltic, Operation "Albion"
T 65, destroyer 13. 10. 1917, explosive mine 1917, Baltic, Operation "Albion"
Hamidabad, 17 Destroyer. 10. 1917, sunk by a joint attack of seaplanes and destroyers at the port of Inada 1917, Black Sea
Scardsey, 3 transport. 11. 1917, explosive mine 1917, Baltic
“Martha”, transport 6. 11. 1917, explosive mine 1917, Baltic
Neva, 6 transport. 11. 1917, explosive mine 1917, Baltic
UC 57, 11 Underwater Minelayer. 1917, explosive mine 1917, Baltic
“Clidell”, transport 1917, sunk by Russian submarine 1917, Baltic


3. Sea battle
To be continued
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  1. V.ic
    V.ic 24 February 2017 06: 21
    +9
    (C) Aleksandrov, Yu. I. Oteches ... 1917, Baltic

    Here, to Shpakovsky in joy, the list is so list! Ay, "kaibr" ... A plus article for informational content.
    1. Silvio
      Silvio 24 February 2017 11: 03
      0
      Quote: V.ic
      In 1917, the Arctic fleet included the battleship (Chesma), 2 cruisers (Varyag and Askold), 4 destroyers

      Chesma is such an ancient iron, he was sentenced before the war. Or is it the one you need, Chesma?
      1. pilot64
        pilot64 24 February 2017 12: 24
        +3
        Poltava is this.
      2. Yarik
        Yarik 24 February 2017 16: 53
        +2
        The characteristic ventilation pipe (+ its size) will allow, upon careful examination, to name the ship.
        1. BRONEVIK
          BRONEVIK 24 February 2017 17: 35
          +17
          Uh-huh.
          Poltava, then Tango, and then Chesma
      3. V.ic
        V.ic 25 February 2017 06: 40
        0
        Quote: Silvio
        Quote: V.ic
        In 1917, the Arctic fleet included the battleship (Chesma), 2 cruisers (Varyag and Askold), 4 destroyers
        Chesma is such an ancient iron, he was sentenced before the war. Or is it the one you need, Chesma?

        Would you be so kind as to show the "source" from which the "quote" supposedly belonged to me?
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 24 February 2017 15: 23
      +1
      Yes, the list is good, but I do not deal with ships.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 25 February 2017 06: 49
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        Yes, the list is good, but I do not deal with ships.

        With the breadth and immensity of your knowledge, it’s like revealing a couple of cultural features of the battle of Salamis or at Cape Promotions - it’s like two fingers on the asphalt!
  2. Olgovich
    Olgovich 24 February 2017 06: 21
    +12
    construction of the Murmansk railway

    It was the first railway in the world built beyond the Arctic Circle and Russian engineers did it.
    For the first time in the world, an original structure was developed and applied - a filter dam, which allowed not to bypass Kandalaksha Bay).

    The dam was created according to the project of the Russian engineer Vasily Ivashev. The principle of the dam: the water at high tide rises to a height of four meters and passes between individual stones. During low tide, water flows in the opposite direction, washing naturally holes, blowing sand and sludge brought during high tide. This engineering solution has reduced the path by nine kilometers and is still serving properly.

    followed the order on the formation of a flotilla of the Arctic Ocean. The flotilla was supposed to include a cruising detachment, a trawling division, defense units of the Kola Bay, Arkhangelsk port, as well as a communications and surveillance service. The main tasks of the flotilla: escorting ships in mine-hazardous areas, security, sentinel service, coastal defense.


    And it was created as soon as possible: On October 7, 1917 in the Flotilla of the Arctic Ocean was listed 89 combat and auxiliary vessels
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 24 February 2017 06: 27
      +1
      Quote: Olgovich
      - filter dam,

      It came in handy means a discussion about the evacuation of Czechoslovakians ...
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 24 February 2017 06: 38
        +2
        Quote: V.ic
        It came in handy means a discussion about the evacuation of Czechoslovakians ...

        What! belay fool
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 24 February 2017 06: 42
          +2
          Quote: Olgovich
          still serving properly. belay fool

          ... is there anything left in the skull? laughing
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 24 February 2017 08: 56
            +2
            Quote: V.ic
            Is there anything left in the turtle?


            Strange questions, causeless laughter ..... What is the matter with you? request
            Take a look at the topic of discussion
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 24 February 2017 07: 16
      +8
      Quote: Olgovich
      And it was created as soon as possible: On October 7, 1917 in the Flotilla of the Arctic Ocean was listed

      << The appearance in 1915 in the White Sea of ​​German mines, on which merchant ships were blown up, forced the Naval Ministry to start organizing the "White Sea Trawling Party". Help from England, to which Russia has repeatedly turned, was episodic and extremely weak. >> << Under the current situation, the tsarist government was forced to buy at least outdated ships. Therefore, negotiations began on the purchase from Japan of three former Russian ships: the battleships "Poltava" and "Peresvet" and the cruiser "Varyag", sunk in 1904, and then raised and restored by the Japanese. >> Link Zalessky. NA Flotilla of the Arctic Ocean in the Civil War. I agree with the author that the work was done, very big, but the lack of ships and icebreakers made it difficult for the sailors. You can read about how the legendary cruiser "Varyag" served in the North and its fate can be found in the final part of the book by R.M. Melnikov: "Cruiser" Varyag. "
      http://wunderwafe.ru/Articles/misc/flot_slo.html
    3. Monarchist
      Monarchist 24 February 2017 08: 24
      +2
      Captain Olgovich, you plus for the information. Another question for you: what the hell did you make American?
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 24 February 2017 09: 02
        +3
        Quote: Monarchist
        Another question for you: what the hell did you make American?


        I myself am surprised the second day. belay
        In general, I think it is right for the CAM visitor to choose a flag for himself, because he chooses a nickname and an avatar for himself. Why not a flag?

        And my chosen flag would be Russian.
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 24 February 2017 10: 07
          0
          Quote: Olgovich
          And selected would my flag is Russian.

          ... if only, yes ... It was the Internet that brought you to clean water, as well as the uzer / Monarchist put the same into clean water (see below).
          1. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 24 February 2017 12: 12
            0
            HA HA HA monarchists where? laughing
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 24 February 2017 08: 28
    +8
    Not a bad list, nice ..
  4. Monarchist
    Monarchist 24 February 2017 08: 30
    +2
    Ale, moderators, it’s enough to confuse us: they made Olgovich an Americanos, they sent me to Scandinavia, and I always lived and live in Russia!
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 25 February 2017 06: 54
      0
      Quote: Monarchist
      but I always lived and live in Russia.!

      ... Here are those times? People like you have long convinced society that the bloody Bolsheviks cut all the monarchists to pieces and ate raw without salt and pepper!
  5. Monarchist
    Monarchist 24 February 2017 08: 42
    +7
    Comrades, did you notice that the Germans had the greatest losses in 1917? But after February 1917, the combat effectiveness of the Russian fleet noticeably weakened. What do you think is the reason?
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 24 February 2017 12: 13
      +1
      Monarchist and mines in what year? laughingall fleet activity came down to laying mines!
  6. Prometheus
    Prometheus 24 February 2017 09: 53
    +1
    “Askold” during the war switched from ToF to SF, and went half the world for the sake of this ...
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 24 February 2017 10: 21
      +2
      Quote: Prometheus
      “Askold” during the war switched from ToF to SF, and went half the world for this ..

      Vladimir Savvich Pikul described this transition in the novel "Their Dead End". Well described. I’ll give you a comment, there’s only a comment: in the abbreviation “ToF” if you mean the Fleet, it’s not right, but if the flotilla / squadron, then it’s right. Pacific Fleet since 1932.
      1. Prometheus
        Prometheus 24 February 2017 17: 25
        0
        I meant the fleet, but it’s like that ... Thank you for the amendment.
  7. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 24 February 2017 10: 43
    +3
    What I said before - MINS and only MINES determined the "success" of the activities of our fleet in WWI ... It is a pity that this experience was largely forgotten in Soviet times, and the stereotyped and not flexible, as well as the stupidity of our "admirals" led to the fact that the minefields we set up during WWII interfered with us more than the enemy ....
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 24 February 2017 12: 05
      +3
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      It is a pity that this experience was largely forgotten in Soviet times, and the stereotyped and not flexible, as well as the stupidity of our "admirals" led to the fact that the minefields we set up during WWII disturbed us more than the enemy ....

      I agree with you. On the Black Sea, exposed minefields in the Sevastopol area, minefields were pure wrecking, I'm talking about the Second World War. On our minefields, more of our ships and ships died than the Nazis lost.
    2. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 1 March 2017 16: 12
      +1
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      What I said before - MINS and only MINES determined the "success" of the activities of our fleet in WWI ... It is a pity that this experience was largely forgotten in Soviet times, and the stereotyped and not flexible, as well as the stupidity of our "admirals" led to the fact that the minefields we set up during WWII interfered with us more than the enemy ....


      By 1917, the Germans laid mines from airplanes, that is, it was impossible to predict the location of the production, and Russian ships began to suffer losses from such production.
  8. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 24 February 2017 12: 18
    +1
    nevertheless destroyed the German fleet! wassat I wonder what the author smokes
  9. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 24 February 2017 15: 35
    +3
    According to the list of losses - it is necessary to seriously check and supplement. For example, "U-28." Died quite interesting. While on the surface, she attacked the English steamer "Olive Branch" with a torpedo on 2.09.17. As a result of the explosion, a steam locomotive located on the deck of the steamboat took off into the air and fell directly onto a German submarine, sinking it. So it’s not worth recording the victories of the Russian fleet “U-28”.
    1. soldier
      soldier 24 February 2017 20: 57
      +17
      As for the steam locomotive (or according to another version of the truck) - the information is not unambiguously confirmed, and the crew of the boat died and will not say anything.
      But, given that the steam locomotive (or truck) was intended for the needs of the Russian army (and Olive Branch was going to Murmansk) - indirectly there is her merit. Joke laughing
      But seriously - the fact that the boat died during the military operation, acting on the Russian sea communications of the Northern Maritime Theater.
      But the details of the death would be interesting to establish
    2. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 24 February 2017 23: 50
      +2
      Quote: VohaAhov
      According to the list of losses - it is necessary to seriously check and supplement. For example, "U-28." Died quite interesting. While on the surface, she attacked the English steamer "Olive Branch" with a torpedo on 2.09.17. As a result of the explosion, a steam locomotive located on the deck of the steamboat took off into the air and fell directly onto a German submarine, sinking it. So it’s not worth recording the victories of the Russian fleet “U-28”.

      For the good of the case, can I give a link to the source for this amazing event?
      1. VohaAhov
        VohaAhov 25 February 2017 00: 25
        +2
        You can take a look at this site http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?115513. But it says that the submarines fired at the Olive Branch, which was transporting ammunition as well. One of the shells caused detonation. The boat that came too close was damaged by the explosion and sank. Escort ships did not rescue the crew of the submarine and all of them (39 people) were killed. The crew of the "Olive Branch" was completely saved, with the exception of 1 person. And about the steam locomotive, this, most likely, remained in my memory from the works of Pikul.
        1. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 25 February 2017 09: 04
          +1
          Quote: VohaAhov
          You can take a look at this site http: //www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx? 115513 ...

          Thank you.
  10. fenist82
    fenist82 24 February 2017 22: 56
    +12
    As for the increase in losses of the German Navy in 1917. Well, firstly, the loss of warships in 1916 was no less, and secondly, the Germans carried out a major operation "Albion" - a major operation, relatively large losses, and the loss of combat effectiveness of our fleet could not but trigger the activation of the enemy fleet. Here we can recall that in 1919 the English fleet will suffer not small losses precisely from mines delivered during the years of WWII.
  11. Barcid
    Barcid 25 February 2017 08: 00
    +17
    Informatively. Thank.
  12. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 28 February 2017 16: 38
    +1
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    What I said before - MINS and only MINES determined the "success" of the activities of our fleet in WWI ... It is a pity that this experience was largely forgotten in Soviet times, and the stereotyped and not flexible, as well as the stupidity of our "admirals" led to the fact that the minefields we set up during WWII interfered with us more than the enemy ....

    The German fleet and its allies lost no less than ships in the East during WWII on Soviet, British and their mines.
  13. murriou
    murriou 8 March 2017 19: 25
    +3
    Everything as usual.

    The list of enemy ships sunk by the Russian fleet, as always, needs to be divided at times.
    Such lists usually contain a considerable number of ships with distorted names, an incorrectly indicated class, or nonexistent at all.
    Often issued as sunken ships, only damaged, even light.
    Often issued for the achievements of the Russian fleet all non-combat losses of the enemy.
    Typically, the bakers shamelessly ascribe to the merits of the Russian fleet all the results of the British submariners in the Baltic, in which there is not a penny of Russian merits.

    Blocks “Elfie”, “Julia”, “Marta”, “Martial” - 4. 11. 1914 flooded by the crews at Libava. 1914, the Baltic.

    Brilliant passage! The firemen deliberately flooded by the Germans to block the fairway are also the merit of the Russian fleet! laughing laughing laughing
    At the same time, crystal bakers do not include in the list of Russian losses firewalls sunk in panic in the middle of the sea, and not where they were planned for flooding - near Zonguldak. The argument is iron: but we ourselves were going to drown them! lol

    UC 13, the submarine - 15. 11. 1915 a storm threw ashore, finished off by Russian ships. 1915, Black Sea

    The author “forgets” to clarify that a whole month passed from being washed ashore to being shot by destroyers, during which the Germans managed to remove everything valuable from the forger. An empty corps was already shot.
    The most talented record this submarine in the victories of the Russian fleet already twice, because some * especially literate * the authors write its name as US-13, and their readers, admirers with an even lower level of literacy, are happy to insert any name into the line, incl. US-13 with UC-13 together, although none of these times is true.

    “Tashkentopru”, gunboat - 27. 11. 1915, artillery fire of destroyers. 1915, the Black Sea.
    "Yozgat" gunboat - 27. 11. 1915, artillery fire of destroyers. 1915, the Black Sea.

    Fraud, VERY typical for Russian reports and their crunchy retelling.
    Turkish so-called gunboats had a considerable age, low displacement (up to 200-250t), weak weapons (47-75mm main caliber), and dubious combat value, so they were used as minesweepers and messenger ships.

    The same applies to the Turkish so-called. destroyers (real Turkish destroyers, although also not of their first youth, safely served until the end of WWII) and the German "destroyers" (or even destroyers, according to * talented * crystal bakery authors), marked with the letter T, and used as minesweepers or other auxiliary ships.
    "Hamidabad, destroyer" lol had a considerable age, displacement of 97 tons, the main caliber of 37 mm, and at the time of sinking it was used as a messenger ship for transporting a small batch of aviation gasoline.
    These are the "great victories" and the Russian fleet in WWI is glorious. laughing laughing laughing

    "Temesh", the monitor - 10. 10. 1914, a mine explosion on the river. Savva, killing 31 people. 1914, Danube Theater.

    And what does the Russian fleet have to do with it, which was not even close there? Moreover, mainly Serbs were engaged in mine operations?
    Oh yes, the mine was most likely Russian ... lol
    But the sinking of "Relight" on German mines, which the Germans put at Port Said, the bakers are trying to "ignore" or ignore.
    Arguments from “well, this is a mine, not in battle” (despite the fact that the Russian fleet itself took part in an open battle, a vanishingly small number of times, and inflicted losses on the enemy, you can count on the fingers of one hand, but all your so-called victories received due to mine productions) to "well, he didn’t take part in the battle" (as if the EBR ceased to be a warship from this, and drowning ceased to be drowning).

    The bakers try to “forget” about the “Pearl”, who slept through his own death and is glorious except for the record speed of drowning in an open battle by an equal class ship.
    In the same way, the self-flooding of Russian submarines and even destroyers in the Baltic is classified for them.
    For they ruin the light image of the Russian fleet, so diligently created by them from LIES.
  14. BRONEVIK
    BRONEVIK 8 March 2017 19: 38
    +16
    Nothing is forgotten - everything is in the following article: Relight, and Pearls.
    And 2 Turkish gunboats in the Black Sea sank, and 5 German submarines.
    The Germans themselves recognize.
    Yes, but not Murrow (uncle Murzik, etc.)
    1. murriou
      murriou 8 March 2017 19: 44
      +1
      Quote: BRONEVIK
      2 Turkish gunboats in the Black Sea sank

      I sympathize with your problems with reading and understanding in Russian, as always.
      You TTX these "gunboats" have seen? Are you familiar with their combat biography?

      These are the gunboats that were sunk by the Japanese in the REJ, the Germans in the Baltic and the Turks in the World Cup - yes, the gunboats, each of which is several times larger and more powerful than these two gunboats, even combined.

      Although, if you count on the bakery, then 4 grapes are more than 3 watermelons - and that, and both formally berries laughing
  15. murriou
    murriou 8 March 2017 19: 39
    +1
    = * =
    According to the results of the WWII, if we consider them HONESTLY and with the SAME criteria for both sides, the loss of warships of the Russian fleet from the actions of the enemy, and the losses of the enemy warships from the actions of the Russian fleet, are comparable in number - but the displacement varies by about 2 times : Russian, of course, more, because among the losses of the enemy there is nothing comparable with the EDB "Glory" and "Relight".

    If we discard a trifle of less than 0,5 thousand tons, then the number of Russian losses is much more than the enemy.
    This is the reality of WWI, on which the myths about the bakery are not very similar.
    1. BRONEVIK
      BRONEVIK 8 March 2017 19: 45
      +17
      As they said in one film: "You're lying like you breathe."
      As with the losses in Moonsund by Chishvits.
      1. murriou
        murriou 8 March 2017 19: 48
        +1
        Again, I sympathize with your inability to read and understand Russian laughing
        Although, after your prolonged blowing of bubbles in those topics, you can repeat it here as well, please enter the arena! good lol
        1. BRONEVIK
          BRONEVIK 8 March 2017 19: 57
          +16
          Enough of our correspondence on Moonsund and Chishvits.
          Blow bubbles further winked laughing