Russian fleet in the First World War and its combat effectiveness. Part of 5

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During the war, the Northern Maritime Theater was founded. After the outbreak of war, Russia lost contact with its allies through the Black and Baltic Seas. Accelerated development of the already existing ports on the White Sea and the construction of new ones on the Barents Sea began, as well as the reconstruction of the Arkhangelsk-Vologda railway, the construction of the Murmansk railway and the establishment of a system for the protection of maritime communications.

All this required the involvement of large resources, the lack of which was the reason that their implementation was delayed. The reconstruction of the Arkhangelsk-Vologda railway ended in January 1916, and the construction of the Murmansk road was completed in 1917. Observation posts were set up in the throat of the White Sea, and a battery of 4-47-mm guns was installed on Mudyug Island.



Already at the end of 1914, the enemy began to lay mines, and at the beginning of the navigation of 1915, the German command sent an auxiliary cruiser, Meteor, into the throat of the White Sea - he put 285 mines. A number of merchant ships died on the mines and the British auxiliary cruiser Arlanz was blown up. Since June 1915, the defense of the Arkhangelsk port and the protection of maritime communications in the theater of operations have become more organized and effective.

In July 1916, an order to form flotilla Of the Arctic Ocean. The flotilla was supposed to include a cruising detachment, a trawling division, defense units of the Kola Bay, Arkhangelsk port, as well as a communications and surveillance service. The main tasks of the flotilla are: escorting ships in mine-hazardous areas, security, sentinel service, coastal defense.

In 1916, the construction of a base began in the depths of the Kola Bay - near the Semenovye Islands. A trade port was built in the Kola Bay near the village of Romanov (the future Murmansk).

The German command, assessing the importance of the northern maritime communications that linked Russia with its allies on the Entente and neutral states, sent submarines in the second half of 1916 for active operations in this theater. In August and September, German submarine minzagi installed 72 mines at the entrance to the throat of the White Sea - several ships were killed. Since September, 1916, enemy submarines began to appear on the outskirts of the Kola Bay.

The Russian command took measures on anti-submarine defense, reducing the losses to a minimum by October.

In the 1917, in the composition of the fleet of the Arctic including: Battleship ( "Chesma"), 2 cruiser ( "Varyag" and "Askold"), 4 destroyers, destroyer 2, 3 submarine minelayer, 40-trawlers and trawlers boats 2 icebreaker and up to 20 auxiliary ships.

Russian fleet in the First World War and its combat effectiveness. Part of 5

1. "Chesma".

In the North Sea Theater, the enemy lost 3 submarines: U 56 (sunk by the destroyer Thunderstorm), U 76 (destroyed by minesweepers) and U 28 (killed by an explosion of attacked vehicles with military cargo).


2. U-28 in 1915 from the seized vessel.

The young fleet declared itself in full voice.

In 1917 on the Black Sea, the fleet continued fighting on enemy communications, making it difficult to deliver weapons and food of the Turkish army on the Caucasian front, shelling coastal objects, blocked the Bosphorus.

The main event for the Baltic Fleet weakened by the revolution in 1917 was the participation in the Moonsund operation.

The final contribution of the Russian fleet to the victory of the Entente is expressed in the following figures (See: Aleksandrov, Yu. I. Domestic submarines before the 1918 of the year (reference book). SPb., 2002; Apalkov, Yu. V. Warships of the Russian fleet 08. 1914 10. 1917. Reference book. St. Petersburg, 1996; It is the German Navy 1914-1918. Reference book on the ship composition // Maritime collection. 1996. No. 3; Ozarovsky N. Yu. -1914 M.-L., 1917; Puzyrevsky KP Ship damage from artillery and the struggle for survivability. L., 1941; Puzyrevsky K. P. Damage orablay from underwater explosions and the struggle for survivability. L. - M., 1940; Pakhomov N. A. Armored cruisers of Germany. 1938-1886. Samara, 1918; Trubitsyn S. B. Light cruisers of Germany (2006-1914). Spb., 1918; It is the same. German destroyers and destroyers (1997-1871). Spb., 1918; Russian Imperial Navy and German and Turkish fleets. Pg., 2000; N. Khromov. Submarine forces of the Baltic Fleet 1915 -1906. Kaliningrad, 2006); Shishov A. A. German Navy losses in World War I 2006-1914 SPb., 1918).

Destroyed enemy ship, cause and date of death, theater, operation
"Magdeburg", light cruiser - 13. 08. 1914, sat on the stones of about. Odenholm, blown up by the crew and finished off by the cruisers Bogatyr and Pallada, 15 people died. 1914, Baltic.
"Gerda", auxiliary patrol ship - 16/08/1914, mine explosion. 1914, Baltic.
"Temesh", the monitor - 10. 10. 1914, a mine explosion on the river. Savva, killing 31 people. 1914, Danube Theater.
"Augustenburg", auxiliary patrol ship - 21. 10. 1914, mine explosion, 6 people died. 1914, Baltic.
"Friedrich Karl", armored cruiser - 4. 11. 1914, mine explosion near the Danzig Bay, 7 people died. 1914, Baltic.
Blocks “Elfie”, “Julia”, “Marta”, “Martial” - 4. 11. 1914 flooded by the crews at Libava. 1914, the Baltic.
"Nilufer", mine layer - 6. 11. 1914, explosion on a mine. 1914, Black Sea.
"Ron", mine layer - 17. 12. 1914, explosion on a mine. 1914, Black Sea.
"Hohenzollern", tug - 03. 01. 1915, mine explosion, 16 people died. 1915, Baltic.
"Gazelle", light cruiser - 12. 01. 1915 decommissioned after being blown up by a Russian mine. 1915, Baltic.
"Nevsehir", gunboat - 17. 01. 1915, mine explosion 1915, Black Sea.
"Medzhidie", light cruiser - 21. 03. 1915, mine explosion near Odessa 1915, Black Sea.
T 57, minesweeper (ships of the T43 type were called destroyers-sweepers. Depending on the tasks in the operation, when the ship died, we call it either a destroyer or a minesweeper. Of the 12 ships of the series, 10 were killed by Russian weapons) - 23. 03. 1915, undermining on a mine 1915, Baltic.
T 47, minesweeper - 16. 05. 1915, undermining the Amur minzag on a mine, 20 people died. 1915, Baltic.
T 51, minesweeper - 16. 05. 1915, undermining the Amur minzag on a mine, 20 people died. 1915, Baltic.
"Gzinder", hydro-air transport - 21/05/1915 was blown up by a mine and disarmed. 1915, Baltic.
"Dora Hugo Stinnes 12", fleet collier - 23, sunk by British submarine. 05, Baltic.
"Bunte Kuh", minesweeper - 15/06/1915, explosion on a mine, 1 person died. 1915, Baltic.
"Ursula Fischer", transport - 18/06/1915, undermining Russian destroyers on a mine. 1915, Baltic.
"Albatross", mine cruiser - 19/06/1915, after a battle with Russian cruisers, she threw herself ashore on the island. Gotland, 28 people died. 1915, Baltic, Gotland battle
V 107, small destroyer - 26. 07. 1915, explosion on a mine near Libava. 1915, Baltic.
T 52, minesweeper - 26. 07. 1915, mine explosion 1915, Baltic Irben operation.
T 58, minesweeper - 26, explosion on a mine, 07 people died. 1915, Baltic Irben operation.
T 46, minesweeper - August 03, 08, mine explosion, 1915 people killed. 17, Baltic, Irbe operation.
V 99, destroyer - 04. 08. 1915, was killed in the Gulf of Riga (during an artillery battle with the destroyer "Novik" he was severely damaged and forced to leave for a minefield), 21 people died. 1915, Baltic, Irben operation.
S 31, destroyer - 06. 08. 1915, mine explosion 1915, Baltic, Irben operation.
Blockships "Oak", "City of Berlin", "Iris" - 07. 08. 1915, flooded near the city of Pernov. 1915, Baltic, Irben operation.
"Breslau", transport - 24. 08. 1915, explosion on a Russian mine in the Gulf of Danzig. 1915, Baltic.
"Vilkomen", fleet tanker - 30. 09. 1915, mine explosion 1915, Baltic.
U 26, submarine - 09. 1915, explosion on a mine, 30 people died. 1915, Baltic.
"Prince Adalbert", armored cruiser - 10. 10. 1915, torpedoed by the English submarine E-8 near Libau, 672 people died 1915, Baltic.
"Undine", light cruiser - 25. 10. 1915 was sunk by submarine E-19, 14 people died. 1915, Baltic.
A 3, destroyer - 25. 10. 1915, mine explosion 1915, Baltic.
"Burgmeister Petersen", fleet tanker - 29. 10. 1915, mine explosion 1915, Baltic.
"Norburg", patrol ship - 7. 11. 1915, as a result of a raid by Russian destroyers. 1915, Baltic.
“Tashkentopru”, gunboat - 27. 11. 1915, artillery fire of destroyers. 1915, the Black Sea.
"Yozgat" gunboat - 27. 11. 1915, artillery fire of destroyers. 1915, the Black Sea.
UC 13, the submarine - 15. 11. 1915 a storm threw ashore, finished off by Russian ships. 1915, Black Sea
"Bremen", light cruiser - 4. 12. 1915, explosion on a Russian mine, 250 people died. 1915, Baltic.
S 191, destroyer - 4. 12. 1915, mine explosion. 1915, Baltic.
S 177, large destroyer - 10. 12. 1915, mine explosion 1915, Baltic.
"Freya", patrol ship (former cruiser) - 10. 12. 1915, explosion on a Russian mine, 22 people died. 1915, Baltic.
"Bintz", patrol ship - 12. 1915, mine explosion. 1915, Baltic.
G 194, large destroyer - 13. 03. 1916, mine explosion 1916, Baltic.
"Hamburg", Luger - 01. 05. 1916, mine explosion 1916, Baltic
"Hermann", auxiliary cruiser and 2 armed trawlers 18/05/1916, sunk by torpedoes in a battle with destroyers, 40 people died 1916, Baltic, battle in Norrköping Bay
U 10, submarine in May 1916, mine explosion, 30 dead 1916, Baltic
Trap ship N 01. 06. 1916, sunk by the destroyer Novik 1916, Baltic
V 162, large destroyer 02, mine explosion 08, Baltic
"Siemens Shukert" 2, motor boat 27. 08. 1916, explosion on a mine, 10 people died 1916, Baltic
"Shumni", destroyer 29. 08. 1916, explosion on a mine near Varna 1916, Black Sea
"Kutakhia", destroyer 01. 09. 1916, mine explosion 1916, Black Sea
"Malatya", gunboat 04. 09. 1916, mine explosion 1916, Black Sea
T 64, minesweeper 10. 10. 1916, mine explosion 1916, Baltic
F 2, minesweeper 25. 10. 1916, explosion on a mine in the Irben Strait 1916, Baltic
"Erkner"1, motor boat 25. 10. 1916, explosion on a mine in the Irben Strait 1916, Baltic
S 57, destroyer 29. 10. 1916, mine explosion, 2 people died 1916, Baltic. Operation of the 10th mine flotilla to break into the Gulf of Finland
V 75, destroyer 29/10/1916, mine explosion, 3 people killed 1916, Baltic. Operation 10th Flotilla
S 58, destroyer 30. 10. 1916, mine explosion 1916, Baltic. Operation 10th Flotilla
S 59, destroyer 30. 10. 1916, mine explosion 1916, Baltic. Operation 10th Flotilla
V 72, destroyer 30. 10. 1916, mine explosion 1916, Baltic. Operation 10th Flotilla
V 76, destroyer 30. 10. 1916, mine explosion, 1 person died 1916, Baltic. Operation 10th Flotilla
G 90, destroyer 30. 10. 1916, mine explosion, 11 people died 1916, Baltic. Operation 10th Flotilla
U 56, submarine 20, destroyed by a destroyer, 10 people died 1916, Northern Maritime Theater (Barents Sea)
UB 45, submarine 24, explosion on a mine near Varna 10, Black Sea
UB 7, submarine 10. 1916, destroyed by Russian seaplane, 15 dead 1916, Black Sea
UC 15, small underwater mine layer 11. 1916, explosion on a mine, 15 people died 1916, Black Sea
Patrol boats No. 12 and No. 16 8. 12. 1916, by the fire of the cruiser "Memory of Mercury" near the Bosphorus 1916, Black Sea
UB 46, submarine 26. 11. 1916, killed by mines laid by TSCHK 234, 20 people died 1916, Black Sea
U 76, submarine 12, sunk by artillery of surface ships, 01 dead 1917, Northern Sea Theater (Barents Sea)
U 28, submarine 20. 08. 1917, during the attack of transport, 28 people died 1917, Northern Marine Theater (White Sea)
"Neitzleichter" V, net lighter 15/09/1917, mine explosion, 13 people died 1917, Baltic
T 54, destroyer 23. 09. 1917, explosion on a mine, 7 people died 1917, Baltic
M 31, minesweeper 25. 09. 1917, mine explosion, 2 people died 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
Destroyer type "S" "Dolphin" 01. 10. 1917, mine explosion, 22 people died 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
Destroyer type "S" "Altair" 01. 10. 1917, mine explosion, 10 people died 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
S 64, destroyer 04, mine explosion, 10 people died 1917, Baltic, Operation Albion
T 66, destroyer 05 - killed by mines in the Gulf of Riga 10, Baltic, Operation Albion
T 54, destroyer 06. 10. 1917, mine explosion 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
T 56, destroyer 03. 10. 1917, died from artillery fire, thrown ashore 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
Roland III, minesweeper 08, explosion on a mine, 10 people died 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
Destroyer type "S" "Gutgeil" 09. 10. 1917, mine explosion 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
"Glukstadt", destroyer type S 09. 10. 1917, washed ashore 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
F 3, minesweeper 11. 10. 1917, mine explosion 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
A 32, destroyer 12. 10. 1917, mine explosion 1917, Baltic, Operation Albion
"Tarask", minesweeper 13. 10. 1917, capsized and sank 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
"Kibweider", destroyer type S 13. 10. 1917, washed ashore 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
M 68, minesweeper 16. 10. 1917, mine explosion, 1 person died 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
"Bine", minesweeper 17. 10. 1917, shot, sunk 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
T 65, destroyer 13. 10. 1917, mine explosion 1917, Baltic, operation "Albion"
"Hamidabad", destroyer 17, sunk by a joint attack of seaplanes and destroyers off the port of Inada 10, Black Sea
"Skardsay", transport 3. 11. 1917, mine explosion 1917, Baltic
"Marta", transport 6. 11. 1917, mine explosion 1917, Baltic
"Neva", transport 6. 11. 1917, mine explosion 1917, Baltic
UC 57, underwater mine layer 11. 1917, mine explosion 1917, Baltic
Clydelley, transport 1917, sunk by Russian submarine 1917, Baltic


3. Sea battle
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  1. V.ic Rank
    V.ic
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    24 February 2017 06: 21
    (C) Aleksandrov, Yu. I. Oteches ... 1917, Baltic

    Here, to Shpakovsky in joy, the list is so list! Ay, "kaibr" ... A plus article for informational content.
    1. Silvio Rank
      Silvio
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      24 February 2017 11: 03
      Quote: V.ic
      In 1917, the Arctic fleet included the battleship (Chesma), 2 cruisers (Varyag and Askold), 4 destroyers

      Chesma is such an ancient iron, he was sentenced before the war. Or is it the one you need, Chesma?
      1. pilot64 Rank
        pilot64
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        24 February 2017 12: 24
        Poltava is this.
      2. Yarik Rank
        Yarik
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        24 February 2017 16: 53
        The characteristic ventilation pipe (+ its size) will allow, upon careful examination, to name the ship.
        1. BRONEVIK Rank
          BRONEVIK
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          24 February 2017 17: 35
          Uh-huh.
          Poltava, then Tango, and then Chesma
      3. V.ic Rank
        V.ic
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        25 February 2017 06: 40
        Quote: Silvio
        Quote: V.ic
        In 1917, the Arctic fleet included the battleship (Chesma), 2 cruisers (Varyag and Askold), 4 destroyers
        Chesma is such an ancient iron, he was sentenced before the war. Or is it the one you need, Chesma?

        Would you be so kind as to show the "source" from which the "quote" supposedly belonged to me?
    2. kalibr Rank
      kalibr
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      24 February 2017 15: 23
      Yes, the list is good, but I do not deal with ships.
      1. V.ic Rank
        V.ic
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        25 February 2017 06: 49
        Quote: kalibr
        Yes, the list is good, but I do not deal with ships.

        With the breadth and immensity of your knowledge, it’s like revealing a couple of cultural features of the battle of Salamis or at Cape Promotions - it’s like two fingers on the asphalt!
  2. Olgovich Rank
    Olgovich
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    24 February 2017 06: 21
    construction of the Murmansk railway

    It was the first railway in the world built beyond the Arctic Circle and Russian engineers did it.
    For the first time in the world, an original structure was developed and applied - a filter dam, which allowed not to bypass Kandalaksha Bay).

    The dam was created according to the project of the Russian engineer Vasily Ivashev. The principle of the dam: the water at high tide rises to a height of four meters and passes between individual stones. During low tide, water flows in the opposite direction, washing naturally holes, blowing sand and sludge brought during high tide. This engineering solution has reduced the path by nine kilometers and is still serving properly.

    followed the order on the formation of a flotilla of the Arctic Ocean. The flotilla was supposed to include a cruising detachment, a trawling division, defense units of the Kola Bay, Arkhangelsk port, as well as a communications and surveillance service. The main tasks of the flotilla: escorting ships in mine-hazardous areas, security, sentinel service, coastal defense.


    And it was created as soon as possible: On October 7, 1917 in the Flotilla of the Arctic Ocean was listed 89 combat and auxiliary vessels
    1. V.ic Rank
      V.ic
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      24 February 2017 06: 27
      Quote: Olgovich
      - filter dam,

      It came in handy means a discussion about the evacuation of Czechoslovakians ...
      1. Olgovich Rank
        Olgovich
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        24 February 2017 06: 38
        Quote: V.ic
        It came in handy means a discussion about the evacuation of Czechoslovakians ...

        What! belay fool
        1. V.ic Rank
          V.ic
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          24 February 2017 06: 42
          Quote: Olgovich
          still serving properly. belay fool

          ... is there anything left in the skull? laughing
          1. Olgovich Rank
            Olgovich
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            24 February 2017 08: 56
            Quote: V.ic
            Is there anything left in the turtle?


            Strange questions, causeless laughter ..... What is the matter with you? request
            Take a look at the topic of discussion
    2. Amurets Rank
      Amurets
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      24 February 2017 07: 16
      Quote: Olgovich
      And it was created as soon as possible: On October 7, 1917 in the Flotilla of the Arctic Ocean was listed

      << The appearance in 1915 in the White Sea of ​​German mines, on which merchant ships were blown up, forced the Naval Ministry to start organizing the "White Sea Trawling Party". Help from England, to which Russia has repeatedly turned, was episodic and extremely weak. >> << Under the current situation, the tsarist government was forced to buy at least outdated ships. Therefore, negotiations began on the purchase from Japan of three former Russian ships: the battleships "Poltava" and "Peresvet" and the cruiser "Varyag", sunk in 1904, and then raised and restored by the Japanese. >> Link Zalessky. NA Flotilla of the Arctic Ocean in the Civil War. I agree with the author that the work was done, very big, but the lack of ships and icebreakers made it difficult for the sailors. You can read about how the legendary cruiser "Varyag" served in the North and its fate can be found in the final part of the book by R.M. Melnikov: "Cruiser" Varyag. "
      http://wunderwafe.ru/Articles/misc/flot_slo.html
    3. Monarchist Rank
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      24 February 2017 08: 24
      Captain Olgovich, you plus for the information. Another question for you: what the hell did you make American?
      1. Olgovich Rank
        Olgovich
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        24 February 2017 09: 02
        Quote: Monarchist
        Another question for you: what the hell did you make American?


        I myself am surprised the second day. belay
        In general, I think it is right for the CAM visitor to choose a flag for himself, because he chooses a nickname and an avatar for himself. Why not a flag?

        And my chosen flag would be Russian.
        1. V.ic Rank
          V.ic
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          24 February 2017 10: 07
          Quote: Olgovich
          And selected would my flag is Russian.

          ... if only, yes ... It was the Internet that brought you to clean water, as well as the uzer / Monarchist put the same into clean water (see below).
          1. Uncle Murzik Rank
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            24 February 2017 12: 12
            HA HA HA monarchists where? laughing
  3. parusnik Rank
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    24 February 2017 08: 28
    Not a bad list, nice ..
  4. Monarchist Rank
    Monarchist
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    24 February 2017 08: 30
    Ale, moderators, it’s enough to confuse us: they made Olgovich an Americanos, they sent me to Scandinavia, and I always lived and live in Russia!
    1. V.ic Rank
      V.ic
      0
      25 February 2017 06: 54
      Quote: Monarchist
      but I always lived and live in Russia.!

      ... Here are those times? People like you have long convinced society that the bloody Bolsheviks cut all the monarchists to pieces and ate raw without salt and pepper!
  5. Monarchist Rank
    Monarchist
    +7
    24 February 2017 08: 42
    Comrades, did you notice that the Germans had the greatest losses in 1917? But after February 1917, the combat effectiveness of the Russian fleet noticeably weakened. What do you think is the reason?
    1. Uncle Murzik Rank
      Uncle Murzik
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      24 February 2017 12: 13
      Monarchist and mines in what year? laughingall fleet activity came down to laying mines!
  6. Prometheus Rank
    Prometheus
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    24 February 2017 09: 53
    “Askold” during the war switched from ToF to SF, and went half the world for the sake of this ...
    1. V.ic Rank
      V.ic
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      24 February 2017 10: 21
      Quote: Prometheus
      “Askold” during the war switched from ToF to SF, and went half the world for this ..

      Vladimir Savvich Pikul described this transition in the novel "Their Dead End". Well described. I’ll give you a comment, there’s only a comment: in the abbreviation “ToF” if you mean the Fleet, it’s not right, but if the flotilla / squadron, then it’s right. Pacific Fleet since 1932.
      1. Prometheus Rank
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        24 February 2017 17: 25
        I meant the fleet, but it’s like that ... Thank you for the amendment.
  7. Monster_Fat Rank
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    24 February 2017 10: 43
    What I said before - MINS and only MINES determined the "success" of the activities of our fleet in WWI ... It is a pity that this experience was largely forgotten in Soviet times, and the stereotyped and not flexible, as well as the stupidity of our "admirals" led to the fact that the minefields we set up during WWII interfered with us more than the enemy ....
    1. Amurets Rank
      Amurets
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      24 February 2017 12: 05
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      It is a pity that this experience was largely forgotten in Soviet times, and the stereotyped and not flexible, as well as the stupidity of our "admirals" led to the fact that the minefields we set up during WWII disturbed us more than the enemy ....

      I agree with you. On the Black Sea, exposed minefields in the Sevastopol area, minefields were pure wrecking, I'm talking about the Second World War. On our minefields, more of our ships and ships died than the Nazis lost.
    2. DimerVladimer Rank
      DimerVladimer
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      1 March 2017 16: 12
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      What I said before - MINS and only MINES determined the "success" of the activities of our fleet in WWI ... It is a pity that this experience was largely forgotten in Soviet times, and the stereotyped and not flexible, as well as the stupidity of our "admirals" led to the fact that the minefields we set up during WWII interfered with us more than the enemy ....


      By 1917, the Germans laid mines from airplanes, that is, it was impossible to predict the location of the production, and Russian ships began to suffer losses from such production.
  8. Uncle Murzik Rank
    Uncle Murzik
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    24 February 2017 12: 18
    nevertheless destroyed the German fleet! wassat I wonder what the author smokes
  9. VohaAhov Rank
    VohaAhov
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    24 February 2017 15: 35
    According to the list of losses - it is necessary to seriously check and supplement. For example, "U-28." Died quite interesting. While on the surface, she attacked the English steamer "Olive Branch" with a torpedo on 2.09.17. As a result of the explosion, a steam locomotive located on the deck of the steamboat took off into the air and fell directly onto a German submarine, sinking it. So it’s not worth recording the victories of the Russian fleet “U-28”.
    1. soldier Rank
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      24 February 2017 20: 57
      As for the steam locomotive (or according to another version of the truck) - the information is not unambiguously confirmed, and the crew of the boat died and will not say anything.
      But, given that the steam locomotive (or truck) was intended for the needs of the Russian army (and Olive Branch was going to Murmansk) - indirectly there is her merit. Joke laughing
      But seriously - the fact that the boat died during the military operation, acting on the Russian sea communications of the Northern Maritime Theater.
      But the details of the death would be interesting to establish
    2. Sergey S. Rank
      Sergey S.
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      24 February 2017 23: 50
      Quote: VohaAhov
      According to the list of losses - it is necessary to seriously check and supplement. For example, "U-28." Died quite interesting. While on the surface, she attacked the English steamer "Olive Branch" with a torpedo on 2.09.17. As a result of the explosion, a steam locomotive located on the deck of the steamboat took off into the air and fell directly onto a German submarine, sinking it. So it’s not worth recording the victories of the Russian fleet “U-28”.

      For the good of the case, can I give a link to the source for this amazing event?
      1. VohaAhov Rank
        VohaAhov
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        25 February 2017 00: 25
        You can take a look at this site http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?115513. But it says that the submarines fired at the Olive Branch, which was transporting ammunition as well. One of the shells caused detonation. The boat that came too close was damaged by the explosion and sank. Escort ships did not rescue the crew of the submarine and all of them (39 people) were killed. The crew of the "Olive Branch" was completely saved, with the exception of 1 person. And about the steam locomotive, this, most likely, remained in my memory from the works of Pikul.
        1. Sergey S. Rank
          Sergey S.
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          25 February 2017 09: 04
          Quote: VohaAhov
          You can take a look at this site http: //www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx? 115513 ...

          Thank you.
  10. fenist82 Rank
    fenist82
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    24 February 2017 22: 56
    As for the increase in losses of the German Navy in 1917. Well, firstly, the loss of warships in 1916 was no less, and secondly, the Germans carried out a major operation "Albion" - a major operation, relatively large losses, and the loss of combat effectiveness of our fleet could not but trigger the activation of the enemy fleet. Here we can recall that in 1919 the English fleet will suffer not small losses precisely from mines delivered during the years of WWII.
  11. Barcid Rank
    Barcid
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    25 February 2017 08: 00
    Informatively. Thank.
  12. Kostadinov Rank
    Kostadinov
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    28 February 2017 16: 38
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    What I said before - MINS and only MINES determined the "success" of the activities of our fleet in WWI ... It is a pity that this experience was largely forgotten in Soviet times, and the stereotyped and not flexible, as well as the stupidity of our "admirals" led to the fact that the minefields we set up during WWII interfered with us more than the enemy ....

    The German fleet and its allies lost no less than ships in the East during WWII on Soviet, British and their mines.
  13. murriou Rank
    murriou
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    8 March 2017 19: 25
    Everything as usual.

    The list of enemy ships sunk by the Russian fleet, as always, needs to be divided at times.
    Such lists usually contain a considerable number of ships with distorted names, an incorrectly indicated class, or nonexistent at all.
    Often issued as sunken ships, only damaged, even light.
    Often issued for the achievements of the Russian fleet all non-combat losses of the enemy.
    Typically, the bakers shamelessly ascribe to the merits of the Russian fleet all the results of the British submariners in the Baltic, in which there is not a penny of Russian merits.

    Blocks “Elfie”, “Julia”, “Marta”, “Martial” - 4. 11. 1914 flooded by the crews at Libava. 1914, the Baltic.

    Brilliant passage! The firemen deliberately flooded by the Germans to block the fairway are also the merit of the Russian fleet! laughing laughing laughing
    At the same time, crystal bakers do not include in the list of Russian losses firewalls sunk in panic in the middle of the sea, and not where they were planned for flooding - near Zonguldak. The argument is iron: but we ourselves were going to drown them! lol

    UC 13, the submarine - 15. 11. 1915 a storm threw ashore, finished off by Russian ships. 1915, Black Sea

    The author “forgets” to clarify that a whole month passed from being washed ashore to being shot by destroyers, during which the Germans managed to remove everything valuable from the forger. An empty corps was already shot.
    The most talented record this submarine in the victories of the Russian fleet already twice, because some * especially literate * the authors write its name as US-13, and their readers, admirers with an even lower level of literacy, are happy to insert any name into the line, incl. US-13 with UC-13 together, although none of these times is true.

    “Tashkentopru”, gunboat - 27. 11. 1915, artillery fire of destroyers. 1915, the Black Sea.
    "Yozgat" gunboat - 27. 11. 1915, artillery fire of destroyers. 1915, the Black Sea.

    Fraud, VERY typical for Russian reports and their crunchy retelling.
    Turkish so-called gunboats had a considerable age, low displacement (up to 200-250t), weak weapons (47-75mm main caliber), and dubious combat value, so they were used as minesweepers and messenger ships.

    The same applies to the Turkish so-called. destroyers (real Turkish destroyers, although also not of their first youth, safely served until the end of WWII) and the German "destroyers" (or even destroyers, according to * talented * crystal bakery authors), marked with the letter T, and used as minesweepers or other auxiliary ships.
    "Hamidabad, destroyer" lol had a considerable age, displacement of 97 tons, the main caliber of 37 mm, and at the time of sinking it was used as a messenger ship for transporting a small batch of aviation gasoline.
    These are the "great victories" and the Russian fleet in WWI is glorious. laughing laughing laughing

    "Temesh", the monitor - 10. 10. 1914, a mine explosion on the river. Savva, killing 31 people. 1914, Danube Theater.

    And what does the Russian fleet have to do with it, which was not even close there? Moreover, mainly Serbs were engaged in mine operations?
    Oh yes, the mine was most likely Russian ... lol
    But the sinking of "Relight" on German mines, which the Germans put at Port Said, the bakers are trying to "ignore" or ignore.
    Arguments from “well, this is a mine, not in battle” (despite the fact that the Russian fleet itself took part in an open battle, a vanishingly small number of times, and inflicted losses on the enemy, you can count on the fingers of one hand, but all your so-called victories received due to mine productions) to "well, he didn’t take part in the battle" (as if the EBR ceased to be a warship from this, and drowning ceased to be drowning).

    The bakers try to “forget” about the “Pearl”, who slept through his own death and is glorious except for the record speed of drowning in an open battle by an equal class ship.
    In the same way, the self-flooding of Russian submarines and even destroyers in the Baltic is classified for them.
    For they ruin the light image of the Russian fleet, so diligently created by them from LIES.
  14. BRONEVIK Rank
    BRONEVIK
    +16
    8 March 2017 19: 38
    Nothing is forgotten - everything is in the following article: Relight, and Pearls.
    And 2 Turkish gunboats in the Black Sea sank, and 5 German submarines.
    The Germans themselves recognize.
    Yes, but not Murrow (uncle Murzik, etc.)
    1. murriou Rank
      murriou
      +1
      8 March 2017 19: 44
      Quote: BRONEVIK
      2 Turkish gunboats in the Black Sea sank

      I sympathize with your problems with reading and understanding in Russian, as always.
      You TTX these "gunboats" have seen? Are you familiar with their combat biography?

      These are the gunboats that were sunk by the Japanese in the REJ, the Germans in the Baltic and the Turks in the World Cup - yes, the gunboats, each of which is several times larger and more powerful than these two gunboats, even combined.

      Although, if you count on the bakery, then 4 grapes are more than 3 watermelons - and that, and both formally berries laughing
  15. murriou Rank
    murriou
    +1
    8 March 2017 19: 39
    = * =
    According to the results of the WWII, if we consider them HONESTLY and with the SAME criteria for both sides, the loss of warships of the Russian fleet from the actions of the enemy, and the losses of the enemy warships from the actions of the Russian fleet, are comparable in number - but the displacement varies by about 2 times : Russian, of course, more, because among the losses of the enemy there is nothing comparable with the EDB "Glory" and "Relight".

    If we discard a trifle of less than 0,5 thousand tons, then the number of Russian losses is much more than the enemy.
    This is the reality of WWI, on which the myths about the bakery are not very similar.
    1. BRONEVIK Rank
      BRONEVIK
      +17
      8 March 2017 19: 45
      As they said in one film: "You're lying like you breathe."
      As with the losses in Moonsund by Chishvits.
      1. murriou Rank
        murriou
        +1
        8 March 2017 19: 48
        Again, I sympathize with your inability to read and understand Russian laughing
        Although, after your prolonged blowing of bubbles in those topics, you can repeat it here as well, please enter the arena! good lol
        1. BRONEVIK Rank
          BRONEVIK
          +16
          8 March 2017 19: 57
          Enough of our correspondence on Moonsund and Chishvits.
          Blow bubbles further winked laughing