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Caucasian front in 1917 year. Baratov corps offensive in southwestern Persia

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In the winter of 1916-1917. on the Caucasian front there was a positional calm. The winter was extremely snowy and harsh. Snow storms in the mountains demolished the tents, brought dugouts to the roofs. Snow teams did not cope with the elements. For a long time the messages with the rear were interrupted, the supply of fuel and food was stopped, the soldiers were starving and freezing. For example, the troops in the Ognot direction were temporarily completely isolated because of the snow drifts, they had to use an inviolable supply of crackers and slaughter horses that were weak from starvation. The troops in positions at times received only 200 g of bread, and horses 600 g of grain. Frequent snowfalls led to casualties among the soldiers. Sentinels froze at their posts during snowstorms. In some sectors of the front, the troops had to be moved to the rear lines, only escort remained at the main positions.


Because of the problems of transport, shortage of fodder, the mass mortality of horses began, which in turn affected the supply of the Caucasian army even more. Food shortages led to an increase in the number of cases, especially scurvy. Due to the crowded location of the troops in the dugouts began an epidemic of typhus. Many people died. By the beginning of 1917, more than 100 thousand people (an entire army) died in the army, dead, ill, frozen and evacuated.

It is worth noting that the position of the 2 and 3 of the Turkish armies was no better. The Turkish army suffered a heavy defeat during the 1916 campaign of the year, replenishment had poor training and fighting capacity, extremely low morale (up to half of the recruits simply ran away). Turkish troops lost the main bases in the Caucasus (Erzerum, Trabzon), were cut off from their rear bases, had extremely poor communications and could not improve them already during the hostilities, as the Russians did. The Turks were extremely poorly equipped, the supply was extremely unsatisfactory, the country's economy was falling apart, which affected the army. Typhoid and typhus raged in the army. As a result, the Turkish army was on the verge of disaster. As a result, only insignificant clashes and reconnaissance searches were observed in all sectors from the Black Sea to Lake Van.

Plans for 1917 year. British actions

In October, the Russian command 1917 of the year developed a plan of operations, which envisaged a short strike to the Turkish troops in order to hold down the enemy with battle and prevent him from transferring additional forces to the Balkans and Galicia. The British also asked to put pressure on the flank and rear of the 6 Turkish Army in Iraq to assist the British offensive in Mesopotamia. To do this, the Russian troops were to begin offensive operations in Persia at the start of 1917. The operation was to go in cooperation with the British, who were planning an offensive against Baghdad.

The British Expeditionary Army General Mood (4 infantry and 1 cavalry divisions), after a series of heavy defeats from the Turks at the beginning and middle of 1916, in December 1916, went on the offensive to regain lost territory. A large group of colonial troops (totaling about 50 thousand people) moved northwards, on both banks of the Tigris River - in the direction of Kut (Kut-El-Amar). At the disposal of the commander of 6 by the Turkish army, Khalil Pasha, was the 18 corps (about 25 thousand people) under the command of General Karabekir, who occupied the defense of Tigra. During the advance, the British stormed certain fortified positions of Ottoman troops. So, for example, from 6 January to 19 January 1917, they attacked the fortified position of the Turks Khadairi. After fierce fighting and storming a number of defensive positions of the Ottoman army, in February the British approached Kut.

Shortly after the start of the first battles, the Turkish general Karabekir decided not to defend Kut and retreated. The Turkish commander decided not to defend the city in order not to fall into the trap, as was the case with the British troops under the command of Thausenda in Kut a year earlier. February 23 Turkish garrison began a retreat from the city. At the same time, the British managed to capture over 9000 Turkish soldiers. The deputy chief of the German general staff, Erich Ludendorff, then wrote: "In Mesopotamia, it soon became clear that the Turkish army in the Iraqi region was not capable of further resistance." As a result, the British entered the city, but they failed to destroy the main forces of the Turks. After the occupation of Al-Kut, British forces under the command of General Fashion continued an offensive movement towards Baghdad.

The British command offered the Russians to take advantage of the favorable situation and support their offensive with the actions of 1 of the Caucasian cavalry corps under Baratov, who at that time numbered 18 thousand bayonets and sabers with 50 guns (13 battalions and squads, 66 squadrons and hundreds).

Caucasian front in 1917 year. Baratov corps offensive in southwestern Persia

Frederick Stanley Maude, Commander of the British Forces in Mesopotamia

British troops on the march in Mesopotamia

Influence of the February Revolution on the Caucasian Army

The commander of the Caucasian army, General Nikolai Yudenich, planned to conduct a series of operations in 1917, using the previous successes and decomposition of the Turkish army. In January, 1917, he organized an attack on Mesopotamia, which forced the Ottoman Empire to transfer part of the troops to the Russian front, weakening the defense of Baghdad, which was soon occupied by the British.

After the February Revolution in Russia, the Provisional Government associated with the masters of London and Paris (most of the revolutionaries of the Februaryists were Masons-Westerners) did not intend to stop the war. Therefore, the Russian command assured the Allies in the Entente that by refusing to take active part in the European theater until the summer of 1917, it intends to continue the offensive on the Caucasian front. However, the army at that time was not able to conduct offensive operations. The commander of the Caucasian front, 21 March, informed the supreme commander about the sad state of the rear and the disintegration of the troops that had begun, and drew the attention of Stakes to the fact that some units had already been planted on an empty ration since 1916. By the spring of 1917, the famine in the Russian army had reached alarming proportions, causing massive epidemics.

Thus, the myth that the Bolsheviks decomposed and destroyed the Russian imperial army is a deception. The Russian army began to decompose, starve in tsarist times. The soldiers did not want to fight, and thought about survival and returning home. And after February, this process took an irreversible, landslide order. Russia went at full speed towards a state and civilizational catastrophe. The Bolsheviks had nothing to do with this. At first, the tsarist regime got involved in an unnecessary war for the Russian people and cut off the last supports of the empire. Then the February-Westernists, dreaming of power and the “Western structure” of Russia, crushed the autocracy (the last support of the empire) and killed the Romanov empire, and with it all the “old Russia”. The Bolsheviks simply took the fallen power and saved everything they could by creating a new project and Soviet civilization.

The Caucasian army (and the entire Russian army) under the Provisional Government could no longer conduct offensive actions. It is worth noting that Ottoman Amia was in a similar situation. 2-I and 3-I Turkish armies went on the defensive, but their combat capability was extremely low. Diseases raged in the army. The 6 Turkish army in Iraq had only a barrier against the Hamadan against the Russian troops, the rest of the troops acted against the British south of Baghdad.

The beginning of the offensive in southwestern Persia

Despite the fact that the winter was not over yet, Baratov's corps launched an 27 of February on the offensive against the Turkish 2 Infantry Division and the cavalry brigade. Our troops took Hamadan. February 20 parts of the right wing of the corps took Senna. February 25 on the Baghdad direction, Russian troops occupied the entire Kermanshah area. In the meantime, the British took Baghdad. In order to divert the attention of the 6 of the Turkish army from the southern direction, that is, to support the British offensive, from the 7 of the Caucasian Army Corps at the end of February, a detachment of General Nazarov was selected (2 rifle battalion, 18 squadrons and hundreds). The detachment was to operate in the area of ​​Sakiz, with the task of seizing the area Penjvin.

It is worth noting that the offensive was conducted in extremely difficult conditions. The mountainous region of Iranian Kurdistan was ravaged by war, deprived of livelihood and had virtually no roads. The trails were covered with snow in the depth of 4-6 m, the infantry had to lay trenches in deep snow in order to move forward. The rider was completely hidden in the trenches. Trenches again brought snowstorms. The cavalry dismounted, the horses were led by. The pack transports passed no more than 5 km per day. Fighters had to spend the night in snow holes-niches. As a result, Nazarov’s detachment was forced to stop and was unable to complete the task.


Russian artillery in Persia

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  1. Rotmistr
    Rotmistr 14 February 2017 07: 28 New
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    Where do the figures come from: 100 thousand from the composition of the Caucasian Army dead, killed and sick? From what period are they calculated?
    The expeditionary corps of N. N. Baratov in the Hamadan operation included: 2 battalions, 2 militia squads, 39 hundreds and 20 guns - 4 thousand bayonets, 6 thousand sabers.
    In the winter of 1917, the Caucasian army did not conduct any active operations because of a very severe winter. In order not to incur unnecessary losses from frosts and illnesses, N. N. Yudenich left only combat guards at the achieved lines, and placed the main forces in the valleys in the settlements.
    The exception is N. N. Baratov’s corps - in early March, the 1st Caucasian Cavalry Corps defeated the Persian group of Turks and, having captured an important road junction in Sinnach (Senendezh) and the city of Kermanshah, moved southwest towards Efrat towards the British. In mid-March, parts of the 1st Caucasian Cossack Division and the 3rd Kuban Division, having covered more than 400 km, allied with the allies at Kizyl Rabat (Iraq). Turkey lost Mesopotamia.
    That's what relates to the topic of the article, since it is dedicated to the military operation. Soviet civilization and the demise of the Romanov empire is certainly interesting, but out of place.
    1. cost
      cost 14 February 2017 11: 15 New
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      Rotmistr: Where do the figures come from: 100 thousand from the composition of the Caucasian army dead, dead and sick? From what period are they calculated?
      The expeditionary corps of N. N. Baratov in the Hamadan operation included: 2 battalions, 2 militia squads, 39 hundreds and 20 guns - 4 thousand bayonets, 6 thousand sabers.

      Absolutely right
    2. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 14 February 2017 12: 13 New
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      Quote: Samsonov Alexander
      the myth that the Bolsheviks decomposed and destroyed the Russian imperial army is a hoax. The Russian army began to decompose, starve even in tsarist times. The soldiers no longer wanted to fight, but thought about survival and returning home. And after February, this process took an irreversible, landslide order. Russia at full speed went to a state and civilizational disaster. The Bolsheviks had nothing to do with this..

      How did the Bolsheviks have no relationship?
      "... the Bolsheviks put forward the slogan" turning the imperialist war into a civil war [!!!] "..." the defeat of their government in the imperialist war ""
      [History of the CPSU (b). Short course. Approved by the Central Committee of the CPSU (B.) 1938 OGIZ. State Political Publishing House. 1946 p.161.]
      "The Bolsheviks also did a great job in the army and navy. They explained to the masses of soldiers and sailors who were to blame for the unprecedented horrors of the war and the suffering of the people, explained that the revolution was the only way out of the imperialist massacre for the people. The Bolsheviks created cells in the army and navy, at the front and in the rear, distributed leaflets calling against the war ... you can end the war, only turning the imperialist war into a civil war and sending weapons against his own bourgeoisie and its government. Increasingly repeated cases of failure of individual military units to go on the offensive. Such facts took place already in 1915 and especially in 1916." [ibid. p.165]

      Threat. For lovers of lies, they say, putting forward such slogans, Lenin had in mind the working class all warring countries, complement. Lenin "enriched" the theory of the socialist revolution (more precisely, created the "new") with just the opposite statement: "socialism cannot conquer at the same time in all countries. " [ibid. p.163. reference to Lenin's article "The Military Program of the Proletarian Revolution" 1916]
      1. co-creator
        co-creator 14 February 2017 16: 12 New
        +1
        So how are the Bolsheviks to blame for the decomposition of the army? For example, in France a year earlier there were real riots both in the army and in the rear at defense plants. The result - the government shooting of thousands of people who participated in these riots.
        So I repeat what the Bolsheviks and Lenin are to blame for, who were not even close to power. So you're lying here.
      2. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 14 February 2017 16: 53 New
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        As if this were not unpleasant for those who today are looking for any ways to maximize the Bolsheviks and the CCCP, but the version of the "Bolsheviks stole victory from Russia" is refuted by the facts of the state of the Russian army for the period from February to October 1917. I will not now swing the numbers torn hastily from the Internet about the number of deserters, the state of fronts, leapfrog in the change of command, etc. Volumes have been written about this, there are archives, there are documents - he who wants to hear and understand. I would just like to focus attention on the document: Order No. 1 of March 01, 1917, which essentially LAWNED the bacchanalia and collapse, which at that time reigned in the army and navy. Explain to me how it is possible in the Belligerent country, in the Belligerent army to officially abolish the principle of unity of command, on which the very existence of the army, as a combat unit, is based? !! Of course, one can argue: the brainwave of the army and navy began earlier, BUT - before the appearance of this document, all the outrages were unauthorized, and somehow fell under the category of war crimes. Order No. 1, by its appearance, gave the go-ahead for permissiveness in the complete absence of possible responsibility for what was done. By and large, the SAMA power deprived itself of control over the army, passing it into the hands of the MOST army, again depriving the command staff of this same army of all levers of influence on subordinates. With the advent of Order No. 1, the Russian army has evolved from a military unit into an ordinary armed crowd with all the consequences. And this happened with the blessing of the Provisional Government. Explain how, on the one hand, you can call for war to a victorious end, and on the other, how to add: “Well, you yourself decide whether to fight or not”
        1. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 14 February 2017 18: 34 New
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          Quote: Uncle Murzik
          but the version of "the Bolsheviks stole victory from Russia" is refuted by the facts of the state of the Russian army for the period from February to October 1917 ...
          Order No. 1 of March 01, 1917, which in fact LAWED off the orgy and collapse, which at that time reigned in the army and navy. Explain to me how it is possible in the Belligerent country, in the Belligerent army to officially abolish the principle of unity of command, on which the very existence of the army is based, as a combat unit? !! ...
          Order No. 1, by its appearance, gave the go-ahead for permissiveness in the complete absence of possible responsibility for what was done. By and large, the SAMA power deprived itself of control over the army, passing it into the hands of the MOST army, again depriving the command staff of this same army of all levers of influence on subordinates. With the advent of Order No. 1, the Russian army has evolved from a military unit into an ordinary armed crowd with all the consequences. And it happened with a blessing Interim government.

          I, apparently, will disappoint you, but Order No. 1 was issued not by the Provisional Government, but by a completely different structure. It was called the Petrosoviet. Moreover, Order No. 1 is issued BEFORE the creation of the Provisional Government. So, the Bolsheviks were part of the Petrosoviet, and later led it (Trotsky).

          In truth, I do not really understand the Communists who did not read Lenin, the documents of the party, who did not study the history of the CPSU. How is this possible? And when you give them a link to their book, they see a fig there.

          I objected to Samsonov on his wording "the Bolsheviks were not related." Had. And what else. They themselves testify to this. Another question is their contribution to the defeat of the Russian empire, including army. For this, many other forces tried.
          1. co-creator
            co-creator 15 February 2017 04: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            I, apparently, will disappoint you, but Order No. 1 was issued not by the Provisional Government, but by a completely different structure. It was called the Petrosoviet.

            What is the difference as it was called, it arose after February, and those who made the revolution (the future of the EaP) were not at all against it because it was necessary to maintain power.
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            Moreover, Order No. 1 was issued BEFORE the creation of the Provisional Government. So, the Bolsheviks were part of the Petrosoviet, and later led it (Trotsky).

            How many Bolsheviks were in this Petrosoviet?
            Why did the VP not cancel this decree? So it was also very much FOR.
            For your information, Trotsky abolished all this democratization in the Red Army and shot those who were against. Well, anyone could lead an organization that didn’t decide anything.
          2. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 15 February 2017 06: 25 New
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            Nikolay S. you give arguments even funnier laughing The actual power in Petrograd by March 1 (14) belonged to the Provisional Committee of the State Duma (VKGD) and the Petrograd Soviet of Workers' Deputies created on February 27 (March 12). In conclusion, the Executive Committee notes that most of the clauses of Order No. 1 already received the force of law part of the time of the post of Minister of War A.I. Guchkova, partly during A.F. Kerensky. As for the regimental, company and other committees, the idea of ​​which was first expressed in Order No. 1, not only public institutions, but also many representatives of the high command staff spoke about the positive, organizing role.

            Source: http://statehistory.ru/5545/Iz-istorii-Prikaza-1-
            Petrogradskogo-Soveta-rabochikh-i-soldatskikh-dep
            utatov /
            1. Nicholas C.
              Nicholas C. 15 February 2017 13: 00 New
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              Uncle Murzik
              The fact that you, having learned new things for yourself, tried to read about it in more detail, does you honor.
              And then here a trollite is someone who does not know anything and does not want to know what is typical for Svidomites, but with the help of Jesuit techniques, they throw in like according to the State Department manual: “Cossacks are not Russian”, then, apparently, “Siberia is not Russia” .. .
              It’s ridiculous. Upon learning that Order No. 1 was issued by the Petrosoviet (Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, Socialist-Revolutionaries and the Bund), you tried to change your shoes in favor of your loved ones. Already, Order No. 1 has become not so bad, and in some places even very positive. And in general, the Provisional Government is to blame. Will not work.
              When transferring part of the power from the Petrosoviet to the Provisional Government, the latter was forced to give too many obligations to the Petrosoviet. Curious then was dual power. The Petrosoviet, which was not responsible for anything, had greater power. The attempts of the Provisional Government to cancel Order No. 1 ended in nothing. The "very secret" letter of the military and naval minister Guchkov (chief of staff, then commander in chief) Alekseev is known: "Time. The government does not have any real power, and its orders are carried out only to the extent permitted by the Council of slave and soldier deputies, which has the most important elements of real power, since the troops, railways, post office and telegraph are in it It’s possible to say bluntly that a time government exists only as long as it is allowed by the Council of slave and soldier’s deputies, in particular, it’s now possible for the military department to issue only orders that do not radically run counter to by the above Council. ". In a somewhat relaxed form, Alekseyev sent a telegram to the front commander. [AVR, f. Chancellery, 1917, d.3, v.1, l.159]

              It was this advice that Lenin had in mind when in the spring of 1917 he wrote: "All power to the Soviets!" The Bolsheviks shoved their socially close ones out of the Petrosoviet (90% became Bolsheviks) and the Petrosoviet led Trotsky easily carried out the October revolution.

              Oh yes. You do not like to know and talk about the role of Judas Trotsky.

              PS. Taking into account the addition of your knowledge, I will be glad if you write again:
              Quote: Uncle Murzik
              Explain to me how it is possible in the Belligerent country, in the Belligerent army to officially abolish the principle of unity of command, on which the very existence of the army, as a combat unit, is based? !! ...
  2. Olgovich
    Olgovich 14 February 2017 07: 54 New
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    Thus, the myth that the Bolsheviks decomposed and destroyed the Russian imperial army is a hoax.

    This is not a myth, it is true. Of course, after February, the army was largely disorganized, but it fought and mainly held its positions. And on the Caucasian and Romanian front, it conducted successful operations, and the Black Sea Fleet also successfully fought.
    The author read the bv work "Army and Revolution", which lists hundreds of telegrams and reports on the state of troops: the true collapse began precisely after the dumbest and most terrible so-called peace decree.

    AUTHOR: Russia was heading for a state and civilizational disaster at full speed. The Bolsheviks had nothing to do with this.

    Russia was walking to Victory and Constituent Assembly, and it was the Bolsheviks who, for the sake of seizing power by their handful, sacrificed the Victory and peace of the Power.

    First, the tsarist regime got involved in a war unnecessary for the Russian people and cut down the last pillars of the empire.

    Then Stalin "got involved in an unnecessary war.
    Then the Westernists, dreaming of power and the “Western system” of Russia, crushed the autocracy (the last pillar of the empire) and killed the Romanov empire, and with it the whole of “old Russia”

    Read Ulyanov = Stalin: "February was the revolution made by the PROLETARIAT" under the leadership of the Bolsheviks.

    The Bolsheviks simply took the fallen power and saved everything they could by creating a new project and Soviet civilization.


    NOBODY, NEVER, ANYTHING to "lift" and "save" Bolsheviks. The people in the elections to the Constituent Assembly entrusted this to completely different people. The communists were afraid of elections like fire.

    Soviet civilization cut off Novorossia from the mother of Russia, created never-existing "states (largely due to Russian lands), devastated and robbed central Russia in favor of the outskirts and built the" Russian Cross "for the Russian people.
    PS I’m not saying that EVERYTHING was bad, but the overall result is sad.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 14 February 2017 09: 59 New
      +1
      Watch the composition of deserters. Who is where from. Greatly the Russians remained in the ranks, and the nat men went home.
      And after the victory (Versailles) everything had to be subordinated again. And Poland and the Rights of the coast of Ukria and the Finns, and Sr Asia, and the Caucasus. and new, according to Versailles territory. Sheeps would get ........... but it was necessary with railway and steam locomotives. and mines and restaurants, and warm closets, and prisons, and theaters. Ports + aviation. and etc
      It didn’t work at all.
      Therefore, piled to the side. Silenok didn’t have enough brains (the rulers thought), and to sell out is to become a colony.
      To see and know the “metropolitan life” is one thing, the situation in the Caucasus is different (100% oil). And so on all the "outskirts"
      1. cost
        cost 15 February 2017 02: 03 New
        +4
        antivirus: Watch the composition of deserters. Who is where from. Great rossi remained in service, and nat men went home.

        And the Caucasian army and the corps of atm.Baratov more than 2/3 consisted of Cossack units: Kuban, Terek, Ural, Don (in your opinion, the national minorities, because they did not consider themselves great Russians). Cossack villages were empty - the Cossacks were on the fronts. After the call of the Petrosoviet No. 1 and, most importantly, the Decree on Earth adopted by the Second All-Russian Congress of Soviets on October 26, 1917, a massive desertion of soldier units began in the Caucasian Army (read Veliko Rossov). Bulk. Echelons. They grabbed trains, threw property out of them, and drove away to themselves to share the land. The railroad supply routes of the Caucasian army were completely paralyzed. On December 13, 1917, the deserters of the 106th Ufa Infantry Regiment killed the attempt to restore order at the Prokhladnoy railway station, the supreme chieftain of the Terek Cossack Army Mikhail Alexandrovich Karaulov.

        The killings of the chieftain stirred up the whole North Caucasus. It got to the point that to combat the deserters from the current front was recalled 21st Volga Cossack Regiment TKV. Deserters not only captured echelons, but also looted the local and Cossack and mountain population everywhere. This led to the fact that on December 1917, XNUMX, the Act was adopted on the declaration of independence of the Caucasus states from Georgia: Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia and the mountain peoples of the North Caucasus.
        The act of December 21, 1917 did not satisfy the entire Russian and Cossack population of the Terek and the Kuban and caused their open armed clashes with indigenous peoples. The civil war in the Caucasus has begun ...
        The Cossacks themselves and the call of the Petrosoviet No. 1 and the Decree on the Earth were alien, remember from the "Quiet Don" the words of G. Melikhov: "We don’t need the earth - we have our own, and we will give more will - we will cut each other"
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 15 February 2017 08: 07 New
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          and who did not have land.?
          My great-grandfather (I don’t know when and how he returned from WWI) had 7 children (+ 2 died young?), Half - before WWI
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 14 February 2017 13: 49 New
      +2
      [Quote] Olgovich [/ quote] [quote]Russia went to the Victory and Constituent Assembly[/quote 1917... Through the overthrow of the monarchy in February XNUMX .. Decided to change horses at the crossing ... Walking with leaps and bounds to Victory .. How did the Octobrist Milyukov accuse the government of almost treason, in his famous speech ... Stupidity or betrayal ?..Those. some "hirelings" overthrew stupid and traitors in February .. That would end the war with Victory ... And the former led to defeat? smile
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 14 February 2017 15: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: parusnik
        Through the overthrow of the monarchy in February 1917 .. Decided to change horses at the crossing. Those. some "hirelings" overthrew stupid and traitors in February .. To end the war with Victory ...

        As an admirer of Lenin-Stalin, you should know that February carried out the PROLETARIAT under the leadership of the Bolsheviks (Refresh the Short Course)
        And the Provisional Government, which both Emperors called to obey, saved the situation and continued the path to Victory and the US with FULL SUPPORT of the people (read, again, April theses on support) ..
        A bunch of usurpers-Bolsheviks refused the Victory, for them AUTHORITY was more important than the Victory and the Homeland, which they paid for power with the German invaders ..
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 14 February 2017 22: 25 New
          +2
          Olgovich

          As an admirer of Lenin-Stalin, you should know that February carried out the PROLETARIAT under the leadership of the Bolsheviks (Refresh the Short Course)
          ... Yes, this is indicated .. in the 1953 Short Course, earlier ones did not come across .. but here in the first book of the third volume of the six-volume history of the CPSU of 1982, edited by Pronin, it tells what a huge role in the February revolution the working groups of the military-industrial complex, led by Guchkov, played. .
          And the Provisional Government, to which both Emperors called to submit
          ..Alexander Olgovich follows from your post that Nikolay, that Mikhail was eager to be overthrown and transfer power to the Provisional Government ... But in the Manifesto of Nicholas II on the abdication there is not a word about the call to obey the Provisional Government, but there are such words of Nicholas II : Not wanting to part with our beloved son, we pass on our legacy to our brother, our Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich, and bless him to enter the Throne of the Russian State. And in the diary, the ousted emperor wrote "Cowardice and deceit around" .. Mikhail Alexandrovich was an autocrat only from March 2 to 3, 1917 and in his renunciation supported the Provisional Government and only because the Provisional Government did not support him .. Rodzianko told General Alekseev Rodzianko : "With the regency of the Grand Duke and the accession of the Heir to the Cesarevich, perhaps they would have reconciled, but the candidacy of the Grand Duke as the Emperor is not acceptable to anyone, and a civil war is likely" ....
          A bunch of usurpers-Bolsheviks refused the Victory, for them AUTHORITY was more important than the Victory and the Homeland, which they paid for power with the German invaders ..
          ..And what to do with these ... the Brest Peace was signed in March 1918. May 15 - the first units of the Kaiser troops disembark at Poti port, Georgia declares its independence on May 26, and Berlin recognizes this independence on May 28 ... In accordance with an agreement carefully drawn up by von Schulenburg, Georgia is turning into a raw materials appendage of Kaiser Germany. The Germans receive manganese, copper mines, the port of Poti, the railroad, export minerals, food, wool, etc. from the "independent" country. The business is so successful that Berlin awards Georgian Foreign Minister Akaki Chkhenkeli the highest military order in Germany - The iron cross. A presentation for the award of the same order is sent to the head of the Georgian government - Noah Zhordania. These are the very ones who during the war and the February Revolution spoke about the war to a victorious end .. But here is the very first Brest peace signed on February 9, 1918 between Ukraine and Germany and According to this agreement, Austria-Hungary recognized the sovereignty of Ukraine. In exchange for this, Ukraine pledged not to join alliances against these powers and supply them with food and raw materials and provided territory for German and Austrian troops ... Let me remind you .. Soviet Russia signed the "obscene" world only in March 1918 ..
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 15 February 2017 06: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: parusnik
            ..And what to do with these ... the Brest Peace was signed in March 1918. May 15 - the first units of the Kaiser troops disembark at Poti port, Georgia declares its independence on May 26, and Berlin recognizes this independence on May 28 ... In accordance with an agreement carefully drawn up by von Schulenburg, Georgia is turning into a raw materials appendage of Kaiser Germany. The Germans receive manganese, copper mines, the port of Poti, the railroad, export minerals, food, wool, etc. from the "independent" country. The business is so successful that Berlin awards Georgian Foreign Minister Akaki Chkhenkeli the highest military order in Germany - The iron cross. A presentation for the award of the same order is sent to the head of the Georgian government - Noah Zhordania. These are the very ones who during the war and the February Revolution spoke about the war to a victorious end .. But here is the very first Brest peace signed on February 9, 1918 between Ukraine and Germany and According to this agreement, Austria-Hungary recognized the sovereignty of Ukraine. In exchange for this, Ukraine pledged not to join alliances against these powers and supply them with food and raw materials and provided territory for German and Austrian troops ... Let me remind you .. Soviet Russia signed the "obscene" world only in March 1918.

            This is all a consequence of the October coup, the criminal decree on peace, the criminal decoration of the rights of Russian carodes.
            About the Ruins:
            On December 4, in the Manifesto of the Ukrainian people, the Bolshevik coupists RECOGNIZED the Ruin: we, the Council of People’s Commissars, recognize the People’s Ukrainian Republic, its right to completely separate from Russia .
            You would also know that the Germans did not plan to negotiate with Ukraine, they dragged Ukraine to negotiations .... THE Bolsheviks themselves.
            Quote: parusnik
            .Soviet Russia signed the "obscene" world only in March 1918

            They are NOTHING and NOTHING to sign documents on behalf of Russia.
            As President Putin has precisely put it about these half-immigrants: “National traitors”
            1. parusnik
              parusnik 15 February 2017 08: 08 New
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              I see .. there were reasons for betrayal .. smile..those. there are moderate traitors and not moderate .. smile
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            3. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 15 February 2017 10: 32 New
              +1
              Olgovich, as always, is lying a little! A country devoid of power structures was immediately swept not only by a wave of crime, but also by a "parade of sovereignty." The empire began to decay quickly under the Provisional Government. March 4 in Kiev, representatives of local political parties form the "Central Rada", which proclaimed itself the power in Ukraine. Instead of immediately shooting all its members, the Provisional Government began vaguely to promise autonomy, and on June 10, the Rada declared independence, and on March 16, a monument to Stolypin was demolished in Kiev.



              I note that it was the Ukrainian autonomous government, led by the historian Grushevsky, that almost a month before the Bolsheviks signed the Brest Peace Treaty with the Germans concluded a separate peace treaty with Germany. It was then that German troops appeared in Ukraine.



              On July 18, the Provisional Government dissolved the Sejm of Finland, which declared its independence, but, of course, could not regain control of all autonomy. The favorite of the current democratic intelligentsia, General Krasnov, organized on October 21, 1917, the self-proclamation of the "Southeastern Union", which included the Caucasus, Kuban, Don, Astrakhan (note, even before the Bolsheviks came to power). Thus, the “Parade of Sovereignty” thus included even purely Russian regions ... But we note that the point here is not simply the “democracy” or “softness” of the Provisional Government. Its ever-changing members did not at all want the collapse of Russia (otherwise, on whom would the elite living in St. Petersburg whose interests they represented be parasites?). But it was already impossible to restore order, since there were no longer any law enforcement agencies or an army. Even if the authorities, for example, decided to give the order to shoot the Central Rada in June, there was no one to fulfill it. The collapse of state administration was predetermined not only by the “mistake” of the new government in the dissolution of the police and the gendarmerie, but also by the fact that these bodies could either obey the autocratic tsar, or no one, since their composition swore allegiance to the tsar, and not some persons sitting in the Winter and proclaiming himself power. In addition, the performance by law enforcement agencies of their duties (for example, an attempt to arrest the Central Council) was punishable - they knew about this from the experience of the city police torn to pieces in St. Petersburg. Russia itself was destabilized by the non-resistance of Nicholas II to the rebellion and its subsequent abdication (according to Kudryavtsev and others).
          2. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 15 February 2017 10: 22 New
            +1
            Olgovich again liberal fantasies from you! laughing It is often claimed that it was the Bolsheviks who destroyed the army. But listen to a disinterested person. On July 16, 1917, Denikin stated in the presence of Kerensky: “When they repeat at every step that the Bolsheviks served as the cause of the collapse of the army, I protest. This is not true. The army was destroyed by others. The military legislation of recent months has destroyed the army. ” It was the “heroes” of February that the system of ministries was defeated: the ministers and their deputies were dismissed and partly imprisoned, the shuffling of ministerial colleges and the cleaning of apparatuses began. The new ministers were appointed strange people who do not have real experience in managing the state ... (http://www.samisdat.ru/2/2123e-rp.htm).



            The interim government unsuccessfully failed the summer offensive at the front, for which in 1916 all the necessary weapons reserves were created.



            Desertion grew. As of September 1, 1917, 1 million 865 thousand people deserted from the army (http://soldat.ru/doc/casualties/book/chapter2_2.h
            tml). The number of the Russian army in the First World War is 15 million 500 thousand. That is, 12% - almost every tenth.



            For comparison: during the First World War, 600 deserters were shot in the French Amyah, 346 British and 48 German deserters. A total of 7361 people were accused of desertion and other misconduct in the British army (http://www.shotatdawn.org.uk)



            That is, a huge disparate part of the Russian army simply fled before October.



            Behind the rear began the robbery of deserters of freight trains leaving the front with food going to the army; an army order was received to send armed convoys to the rear to escort our trains; desertion is spreading everywhere; only I still have 18 and 70 divisions. in which, if there are deserters, then only from the recently arrived replenishment of the most vile composition, which already lost 50 to 90% on the way.



            The collapse of the front did not occur under the Bolsheviks, but under the Provisional Government. After the Bolsheviks took power, the front was simply liquidated on paper. In fact, there were already few combat-ready units at the front. By the way, let me remind you that Lenin called for the defeat not only of his own army, but for the DESTRUCTION of all the warring armies, and this, as they say in Odessa, is two big differences.
    3. co-creator
      co-creator 14 February 2017 16: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Olgovich
      This is not a myth, it is true. Of course, after February, the army was largely disorganized, but it fought and mainly held its positions. And on the Caucasian and Romanian front, it conducted successful operations, and the Black Sea Fleet also successfully fought.

      I fought on emotions for a couple of months. Then, after sensitive losses, she refused to fight. You do not know who allowed the commander soldiers to elect and vote to go on the attack or not?
      Quote: Olgovich
      the true collapse began precisely after the dumbest and most terrible so-called peace decree.

      This is a lie. After the "peace decree" simply collapse was legalized.

      Quote: Olgovich
      Then Stalin "got involved in an unnecessary war.

      So did Stalin attack Hitler? Monarchists survived completely out of their minds.
      Quote: Olgovich
      "February was accomplished by the proletariat" under the leadership of the Bolsheviks.

      Can you name the name of those who spoke on behalf of the proletariat?
      Quote: Olgovich
      NOBODY, NEVER, ANYTHING to "lift" and "save" Bolsheviks.

      As well as the king-father, no one instructed to rule the country. I personally don’t remember the election, but I don’t believe in power from God.
      Quote: Olgovich
      The people in the elections to the Constituent Assembly entrusted this to completely different people. The communists were afraid of elections like fire.

      How can elections be held if part of the country is occupied, and there are 10 million people in the army?
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 14 February 2017 19: 45 New
        +2
        Quotation: blooded man
        I fought on emotions for a couple of months. Then, after sensitive losses, she refused to fight. You do not know who allowed the commander soldiers to elect and vote to go on the attack or not?

        YATO KNOW, but YOU'RE NOT. The election of commanders was officially introduced by the Bolsheviks and not knowing this is a shame for the communist.
        Quotation: blooded man
        This is a lie. After the "peace decree" simply collapse was legalized.

        I will answer the same way-you are lying and do not know. Read to start http://militera.lib.ru/docs/da/sb_oktyabrskaya_re
        volutsiya_i_armiya / index.html
        THEN we will speak.
        Quotation: blooded man
        Can you name the name of those who spoke on behalf of the proletariat?

        Short course VKPb created by STALIN read. You believe him.
        Quotation: blooded man
        As well as the king-father, no one instructed to rule the country. I personally don’t remember the election, but I don’t believe in power from God.

        As well as other monarchs, but their power is legal .. Ktsati, the Constituent Assembly was ELECTED and not the Bolsheviks won there.
        Quotation: blooded man
        How can elections be held if part of the country is occupied, and there are 10 million people in the army?

        Those choices count (among specialists). an unattainable benchmark.
        1. co-creator
          co-creator 15 February 2017 04: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Olgovich
          YATO KNOW, but YOU'RE NOT. The election of commanders was officially introduced by the Bolsheviks and not knowing this is a shame for the communist.

          Was it really difficult to look at least on the wiki) Order No. 1 on the democratization of the army was issued during the interim government right after February so that the soldiers would support and control the officers. This order just ruined the army, and not a "peace decree." By the way, the commissioners appeared after that.
          Quote: Olgovich
          I will answer the same way-you are lying and do not know. Read to start http://militera.lib.ru/docs/da/sb_oktyabrskaya_re
          volutsiya_i_armiya / index.html
          THEN we will speak.

          I answered above.
          When the sailors refuse to go lay mines in the Strait of Riga because the “committee” decided so when about. Ezel escapes 2/3 of the sailors and the island takes one company of Germans without resistance, is this not the collapse of the army? No? The Russian front did not collapse just because the Germans were occupied in the west, and the Austrians were not able to advance after the Brusilovsky breakthrough.

          Quote: Olgovich
          Short course VKPb created by STALIN read. You believe him.

          Stalin was part of the interim government? That is, he participated in the February revolution? Mdya .. Bad with you at all. That Stalin attacked Hitler, now it.
          Quote: Olgovich
          As well as other monarchs, but their power is legal ..

          The power of the Bolsheviks is also legal. This was recognized by the whole world and most importantly by the peoples of the USSR. It is received as well as the kings, i.e. elimination of competitors by physical means.
          Quote: Olgovich
          Ktsati, the Constituent Assembly was elected and not the Bolsheviks won there.

          Those whom they chose did not do anything other than chatter, it was approximately like power in the Russian Federation in the 90s.
          Quote: Olgovich
          Those choices count (among specialists). an unattainable benchmark.

          You forgot to indicate - RIGHT SPECIALISTS bully
          Excuse me, elections when part of the country is occupied, millions of displaced people, dual power in the country (interim government and councils) are the benchmark? Who invented this? Apparently liberals, since they really like the result fool

          By the way, do you know that in the warring countries there was dual power after February?
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 15 February 2017 06: 50 New
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            [[quote = conservative] Was it really difficult to look at least on a wiki) Order No. 1 on the democratization of the army was issued during the interim government right after February so that the soldiers would support and control the officers. This order just ruined the army, and not a "peace decree." By the way, the commissioners appeared just after that [/ quote]
            NOT VP issued order 1 and this was before VP. VP objected to him. But the order was NOT election commanders.
            This CRIME was introduced by the Bolsheviks (the SECOND time I tell you, one-few?)

            Decree on the elective beginning and on the organization of power in the army

            December 16 (29), 1917

            2) All completenessand the authorities within each military unit and their formations belongs torelevant soldier committees and Soviets.

            4) The election of commanding officers and officials is introduced. Commanders up to and including regiment are elected by the general vote of their units, platoons, companies, teams, squadrons, batteries, divisions and regiments. Commanders above the regimental, up to and including the supreme commander in chief, are elected by the relevant congresses or meetings under the appropriate committees.


            quote = conservative] By the way, do you know that in the warring countries there was dual power after February? [/ quote]

            : Provisional government created with the full coordination of the Soviets and their participation,. and the First Congress of Soviets supported the EaP and the elections to the CSS.
            Is it really difficult to open a Non-Soviet textbook?

            [quote = conscript] [quote] Stalin was a member of the interim government? That is, he participated in the February revolution? Mdya .. Bad with you at all. That Stalin attacked Hitler, [/ quote] now this. [/ Quote]

            fool
            1. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 15 February 2017 10: 34 New
              +1
              Olgovich you fantasize a lot again! fool The actual power in Petrograd by March 1 (14) belonged to the Provisional Committee of the State Duma (VKGD) and the Petrograd Soviet of Workers' Deputies created on February 27 (March 12). In conclusion, the Executive Committee notes that most of the clauses of Order No. 1 already received the force of law part of the time of the post of Minister of War A.I. Guchkova, partly during A.F. Kerensky. As for the regimental, company and other committees, the idea of ​​which was first expressed in Order No. 1, not only public institutions, but also many representatives of the high command staff spoke about the positive, organizing role.
              Source: http://statehistory.ru/5545/Iz-istorii-Prikaza-1-
              Petrogradskogo-Soveta-rabochikh-i-soldatskikh-dep But let's listen to an uninterested person. On July 16, 1917, Denikin stated in the presence of Kerensky: “When they repeat at every step that the Bolsheviks served as the cause of the collapse of the army, I protest. This is not true. The army was destroyed by others. The military legislation of recent months has destroyed the army. ” It was the “heroes” of February that the system of ministries was defeated: the ministers and their deputies were dismissed and partly imprisoned, the shuffling of ministerial colleges and the cleaning of apparatuses began. The new ministers were appointed strange people who do not have real experience in managing the state ... (http://www.samisdat.ru/2/2123e-rp.htm).
            2. Alexander Greene
              Alexander Greene 16 February 2017 03: 01 New
              +1
              Quote: Olgovich
              NOT VP issued order 1 and this was before VP. VP objected to him. But the order was NOT election commanders.
              This CRIME was introduced by the Bolsheviks (the second time I tell you, one-few?) Decree on the elective beginning and on the organization of power in the army


              Olgovich’s crisis of the genre is repeated. I will have to repeat my post.
              I don’t understand: is hatred towards the Bolsheviks or the limitations of your thinking blocking your eyes? I understand that you hate the Bolsheviks, but do not be so limited. You cannot understand in any way that all events must be considered within the historical framework in which they took place. From your point of view, they are all stupid. And then these were the only right decisions.

              The country is tired of a meaningless slaughter. The people wanted peace and the Bolsheviks gave it. The army was falling apart, and there was no way to keep it, and therefore the Bolsheviks began to build a new army. In order to exclude the betrayal of the revolution from the side of the new commanders, they were not appointed, but elected, and those who were well known, who were sure that he would not betray, were elected. There were no commissars then. When I had to deal with regular, trained intervention troops, we realized that only the regular Red Army could counter them, then they began to attract and appoint military specialists to command posts and put commissars to them. When the need for commissars disappeared, they introduced one-man management. To understand this is so elementary.
            3. Alexander Greene
              Alexander Greene 16 February 2017 03: 01 New
              +1
              Quote: Olgovich
              NOT VP issued order 1 and this was before VP. VP objected to him. But the order was NOT election commanders.
              This CRIME was introduced by the Bolsheviks (the second time I tell you, one-few?) Decree on the elective beginning and on the organization of power in the army


              Olgovich’s crisis of the genre is repeated. I will have to repeat my post.
              I don’t understand: is hatred towards the Bolsheviks or the limitations of your thinking blocking your eyes? I understand that you hate the Bolsheviks, but do not be so limited. You cannot understand in any way that all events must be considered within the historical framework in which they took place. From your point of view, they are all stupid. And then these were the only right decisions.

              The country is tired of a meaningless slaughter. The people wanted peace and the Bolsheviks gave it. The army was falling apart, and there was no way to keep it, and therefore the Bolsheviks began to build a new army. In order to exclude the betrayal of the revolution from the side of the new commanders, they were not appointed, but elected, and those who were well known, who were sure that he would not betray, were elected. There were no commissars then. When I had to deal with regular, trained intervention troops, we realized that only the regular Red Army could counter them, then they began to attract and appoint military specialists to command posts and put commissars to them. When the need for commissars disappeared, they introduced one-man management. To understand this is so elementary.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 14 February 2017 08: 01 New
    +2
    about the sad rear position and the decomposition that has begun
    ... The sad rear .. the sad and the army .. The strong rear and the army is strong ..
  4. cost
    cost 14 February 2017 10: 24 New
    +9
    and here is the Terek Cossack Nikolai Nikolaevich Baratov
  5. cost
    cost 14 February 2017 10: 44 New
    11
    Terek Cossack army cavalry general NN Baratov

    Educated in the Vladikavkaz real school. He entered active service on September 1, 1882. He graduated from the 2nd Konstantinovsky Military School and the Nikolaev Engineering School (1885). A coronch was released in the 1st Sunzhensk-Vladikavkaz Regiment of the Terek Cossack Army. On December 31, 1885 he was promoted to centurion, and on October 8, 1887, he was promoted to substitute.
    In 1891 he graduated from the Nikolaev Academy of the General Staff in the first category. For the difference produced in esaul. The camp camp was serving under the troops of the Caucasian Military District. Consisted of the Odessa Military District.
    C November 26, 1891 senior adjutant of the headquarters of the 13th Infantry Division. From April 28, 1892 he was chief officer for assignments under the commander of the troops of the Caucasus Military District. Qualified command of the squadron served in the 45th Dragoon Seversky Regiment (04.10.1893/04.10.1894/18.07.1895 - 11.09.1897/24.03.1896/11). He was seconded to the Stavropol Cossack Junker School for the teaching of military sciences (1897/65/1-27). Lieutenant Colonel (Article 23.04). Since September 01.11.1900, 1900, he has been the headquarters officer under the command of the 07.08.1900th Infantry (formerly XNUMXst Caucasian Infantry) Reserve Brigade. To familiarize himself with the general requirements of management and farming in the cavalry regiment, he was seconded to the XNUMXth Dragoon Kiev regiment (XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX). Colonel (Project XNUMX; Art. XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX; for distinction).
    On March 29, 1901, the commander of the 1st Sunzhensk-Vladikavkaz TKV regiment. Member of the Russian-Japanese war. For military distinction awarded a golden weapon (1905). Chief of Staff of the Consolidated Cavalry Corps (14.08.1905-17.03.1906). In 1906 he was promoted to major general for distinction.
    Since July 1, 1907 - Chief of Staff of the 2nd Caucasian Army Corps. Lieutenant General (Project 1912; Art. 26.11.1912; for distinction).

    World War I
    Since November 26, 1912 - the head of the 1st Caucasian Cossack Division, with which he entered the war. Since October 1915, the commander of a separate expeditionary force in Persia (1st Caucasian Cossack and Caucasian cavalry divisions; about 14 thousand men with 38 guns), who had the task of opposing the pro-German forces in Persia (led by Georg von Kaunitz) and joining the British troops. Having embarked on transport ships in Baku, on October 17, 1915, General Baratov landed in Enzeli. On December 3, 1915, the Russians occupied the ancient capital of Persia, Hamadan, and formed the basis for further advancement into Iran. German emissary Count Kaunitz died in one of the skirmishes. With the occupation of Kuma and Kermanshah, Russians cut off Iran from Turkish Mesopotamia. Thus, the Russian expeditionary force, having knocked out the enemy from Iran, transferred the country to the control of the powers of the Entente. On April 28, 1916, the corps was renamed the Caucasian Cavalry Corps (from February 1917, the 1st Caucasian Cavalry Corps).
    On March 24, 1917, the chief supply officer of the Caucasian Front and the chief chief of the Caucasian Military District. On May 25, 1917 he was appointed commander of the 5th Caucasian Army Corps, which was part of the Caucasian Army, but on July 7, 1917 he was returned to the post of commander of the Caucasian Cavalry Corps in Persia. September 8, 1917 promoted to general from the cavalry.

    Civil war
    After the October Revolution, he lived in India for several months, and then joined the white movement. Since 1918 - Representative of the Volunteer Army and Armed Forces of the South of Russia, General Denikin in the Transcaucasus (Tiflis). He was seriously injured (leg amputated) during the assassination attempt on September 13, 1919 in Tbilisi (on the Verii descent). In March-April 1920, he was the manager of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the South Russian government of Melnikov under Wrangel.

    In the emigration
    He lived in exile in France. One of the organizers of the Union of Disabled. Since 1927, he was chairman of the Main Board of the For the Russian Disabled Committee in Paris, and then until his death, he served as chairman of the Foreign Union of Russian Disabled People and editor-in-chief of the newspaper Russian Invalid. At the same time since 1931, chairman of the Union of Officers of the Caucasian Army. He was buried at the Russian cemetery in Saint Genevieve de Bois.

    Awards
    Russian
    Order of St. Stanislav III degree (1893)
    Order of St. Anne III degree (1895)
    Order of St. Stanislav II degree (1898)
    Order of St. Anne, II degree (1904)
    Golden weapon “For courage” (1905)
    Swords for the Order of St. Anne, II degree (1906)
    Order of St. Vladimir IV degree with swords and bow (1906)
    Order of St. Vladimir III degree (06.12.1909/XNUMX/XNUMX)
    Order of St. Stanislav I degree (06.12.1912/XNUMX/XNUMX).
    Order of St. George IV degree (VP 15.10.1916) - for successful actions in July 1915 in the area of ​​the Agridag mountain range.
    foreign:
    Bukhara Order of Noble Bukhara 3 tbsp. golden star (1896)
    Persian Order of Leo and Sun 2 tbsp. (1903)
    French Legion of Honor great officer (1916)
  6. ALEXEY VLADIMIROVICH
    ALEXEY VLADIMIROVICH 14 February 2017 13: 01 New
    +8
    The Russian army began to decompose, starve even in tsarist times. The soldiers no longer wanted to fight, but thought about survival and returning home. And so the last Russian parts of Baratov’s corps left Persia only in 1918 (!!!) It is interesting to compare with the 11th Army of the Red Army, created in October 1918, and disbanded on February 3, 1919 due to the fact that the personnel had died out from disease and hunger.
    1. cost
      cost 15 February 2017 08: 33 New
      +3
      The Russian army began to decompose, starve even in tsarist times. The soldiers no longer wanted to fight, but thought about survival and returning home. And so the last Russian parts of the Baratov corps left Persia only in 1918 (!!!)

      В December 1917 Decree on the Earth came out, which led to mass desertion. And after December 1917, I hesitate to ask what year is coming? Isn't that why you write: the last Russian parts of Baratov’s corps left Persia only in 1918 (!!!). And one more question - what are these mysterious русские parts of the Baratov corps, did he have non-Russian parts?
      1. cost
        cost 15 February 2017 08: 57 New
        +3
        The soldiers no longer wanted to fight, but thought about survival and returning home

        The composition of the Persian corps of Baratov:
        = 2nd Plastun battalion of the Kuban army
        = 1st Tskhinvali Plastun battalion of the Tersky army
        = 39 Cossack hundreds of Kuban, Terek and Ural Cossacks
        = 2 local teams (Terek and Kuban troops) are modern border guards
        = 1st Terek Cossack Mountain Cavalry Battery
        TOTAL: 20 guns, 4 thousand bayonets, 6 thousand sabers.
        Here you are writing the soldiers no longer wanted to fight, but thought about survival and returning home It could even be. But not about Baratov’s corps. There simply was no soldier.
      2. ALEXEY VLADIMIROVICH
        ALEXEY VLADIMIROVICH 15 February 2017 09: 53 New
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        Quote: Rich
        what are these mysterious Russian parts of Baratov’s corps,
        Russian units fought under the Russian national banner. Non-Russian units under the red flag. Alexey Yuryevich Bezgolny
        General Bicherahov and his Caucasian army. Unknown pages of the history of the Civil War and intervention in the Caucasus. 1917–1919
        http://www.universalinternetlibrary.ru/book/69915
        /chitat_knigu.shtml
        1. cost
          cost 15 February 2017 10: 02 New
          +3
          And what does General Bicherahov have to do with the Baratov corps?
          Russian units fought under the Russian national banner. Non-Russian units under the red flag. Alexey Yuryevich Bezgolny

          Where did you fight? With whom? In which place? What year?
          1. cost
            cost 15 February 2017 10: 40 New
            +3
            Russian national banner is that? What is it like?
            All Russian units had their own banners. There was no single color, shape and heraldry. Many regiments of the Don army had on the banners of the Holy Savior. Therefore, the Don Army was called the All-Great. All_Be_Likely having Faces on ensigns. The Tersk army on its banners had images of St. Apostle Barthalameus and crosses, but by the way, the famous "Dog"

            here are the regimental banners

  7. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 14 February 2017 18: 59 New
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    I agree with the author about the fact that the tsarist government got involved in this war and ruined its roots of power. I even agree with the conclusion that the Bolsheviks created a “new project” of ruling Russia. And "saved" power. So where can power disappear? She, this power - the eternal, holy place is never empty. If the government was arrested, it was necessary to create something new. Those who wish would always be found, especially immediately representatives of a certain belief, about whom the Bible said a lot, got into it ...
    We know about this project - starting with the “Red Terror” ordinance (1918 year) and beyond.
    We also know about civilization, one was behind the Kremlin wall, the other around it ...