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What "new missile weapons of Ukraine" Poroshenko announced?

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Vladimir Yezhikov, First Deputy Director of the Economic Department of the Government of the City of Sevastopol, told about the construction of a multi-service service center for the maintenance and repair of air defense weapons and special equipment. We are talking about the service center, which will become one of the component parts of the VKO "Almaz-Antey" concern. Newspaper "News" announces that the new facility will appear on the basis of the Granit GTRP, which will be used to carry out the entire range of necessary maintenance work on anti-aircraft missile systems.

It is reported that in the center being created there will be ongoing maintenance of air defense missile defense systems that are located on the Crimean peninsula. Today it is C-300 and C-400.

According to Vladimir Ezhikov, the creation of a new center will create in the Crimea and Sevastopol an additional about three hundred jobs for highly qualified specialists.

At the initial stage, work will be carried out by on-site engineering and technical teams, while Sevastopol universities will train specialized specialists, who will eventually be involved, as they say, “on a permanent basis”.

Information of such a plan appeared simultaneously with reports of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on readiness to conduct regular rocket firing at the borders of the Russian Federation in the Crimean sector. In addition, the President of Ukraine Poroshenko on his Facebook page made a record in which he stated about the tests of "new missile weapons":
There is a good news. Ukroboronprom developed a new missile weapon for the Air Forces of Ukraine. 57 mm caliber missiles are designed to engage ground targets and are designed to equip attack helicopters and airplanes. During the successful tests, the crew of the helicopter, which, by the way, is equipped with new engines, as well as the Adros optical-electronic suppression station, hit the target. Only half a second is needed to launch a full block of 20 rockets. Good job guys.


What "new missile weapons of Ukraine" Poroshenko announced?


Poroshenko did not explain how many attack helicopters and aircraft Ukraine has. As he did not explain, what is the novelty of these "tested" aviation ammunition ...
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 11 February 2017 13: 37
    +9
    Poroshenko said "new!", Believe to believe. Such people should not lie. And on the other hand, there wasn’t such a rascal in Preziki of all countries.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 11 February 2017 13: 42
      +15
      Again there is no reason not to drink for a new overpower. Pour the cup to the president! smile
      Why do you think he does not miss the opening of a new school writing? After such events there is always a banquet!
      1. Russian Moldavian
        Russian Moldavian 11 February 2017 13: 48
        +49
        Enough to make a drunkard and drunk out of this scum, he is a KILLER, it does not matter sober or drunk - HE KILLER. am
        1. cniza
          cniza 11 February 2017 14: 52
          +13
          Quote: Russian Moldovans
          Enough to make a drunkard and drunk out of this scum, he is a KILLER, it does not matter sober or drunk - HE KILLER. am


          He is not just a killer, but he is also the President of a terrorist country.
          1. WKS
            WKS 11 February 2017 15: 11
            +6
            Quote: cniza
            He is not just a killer, but he is also the President of a terrorist country.

            Not countries, but public education.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 11 February 2017 19: 19
              +8
              I won’t begin to spread the thought on the tree - the petrucci frostbite is still that ...
        2. fn111
          fn111 11 February 2017 17: 29
          +1
          Yeah, first priority
        3. twincam
          twincam 12 February 2017 15: 15
          0
          and who are you? "it"?
          internet pi .... dabol?
          there are a lot of things.
          such loud hamster vysery always amused.
          he is a killer. !!!!!
          with us the army and navy !!!
          and other pseudo-patriotic heresy.
          after which it will never go to defend their homeland.
      2. Koshak
        Koshak 11 February 2017 13: 55
        +2
        Quote: Thrall
        Again there is no reason not to drink for a new overpower. Pour the cup to the president! smile
        Why do you think he does not miss the opening of a new school writing? After such events there is always a banquet!

        Guys, well enough to scoff at the holy fools and take everything seriously. As my grandfather said; "Everyone can offend a holy fool, but the answer is unknown"
        1. larand
          larand 11 February 2017 19: 29
          +3
          Quote: Koshak

          Guys, well enough to scoff at the holy fools and take everything seriously. As my grandfather said; "Everyone can offend a holy fool, but the answer is unknown"

          Foolish or not, it’s not known, but for three years he has ruled dill, and despite Voshnikov’s annual mourning forecasts, he is still alive. So do not consider him completely brainless. Otherwise, you can find yourself in a stupid position and gasp in the battles on your territory - how did it happen?
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 11 February 2017 14: 38
      +1
      Such people should not lie.

      Especially on Saturday morning. laughing
    3. Iline
      Iline 11 February 2017 15: 31
      +5
      In Soviet times, the Air Force was armed with C5 NURSs (50 mm caliber) and in one unit there were more than 20 (up to 32), but due to their weak effectiveness they were removed from service and switched to C8. So, it is not surprising, but the Ukrainian defense industry really created its own rocket and block. Another thing is that even the C5 was borrowed from the German R4 / M and Hose missiles, which were produced during the war. There are no particular difficulties, as such, in the development of such missiles, with the exception of a few critical characteristics. One of them permissible during start-up speed of the incoming air flow. Well, another interesting parameter is the circular probable deviation from the target, but Poroshenko does not write about this.
      So be careful with malicious comments. It is truly a weapon and it is capable of killing.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 11 February 2017 15: 45
        +3
        What "new missile weapons of Ukraine" Poroshenko announced?
        -right like an adik shiklgruber, at the end of WWII ...
      2. Speedy
        Speedy 11 February 2017 16: 29
        +4
        C5 is a 57mm caliber, and I'm not sure that they are withdrawn from service. There are quite normal late modifications. And something tells me that this is the reincarnation of C5.
        1. Iline
          Iline 11 February 2017 17: 48
          +6
          Quote: Sorrow
          and I'm not sure that they are retired

          Taken off. And for a long time. the reason was this
          Based on the results of the West-84 exercises, the military-industrial issues commission under the USSR Council of Ministers in its Resolution of July 27, 1984 pointed to the low combat effectiveness of the S-5 NARS family. As the conclusions, the thesis was voiced that in the future it is necessary, in agreement with the GKES and the Air Force, to increase the production of NAR of the S-8 family by reducing the output of 57-mm NARS. The experience of the war in Afghanistan confirmed the correctness of this decision. According to eyewitnesses and participants in those events, after air strikes by S-5 shells at strongholds of dushmans in villages, their fire resistance did not weaken at all. When the Soviet airborne assault groups knocked the enemy out of the settlements, a terrible picture was revealed to the soldiers' eyes - all the duvalls and walls of the mud houses were covered with shells, the fuses of which did not work in a soft barrier. And in rock formations, explosions of even 100 kg high-explosive fragmentation bombs practically did not leave funnels, what can we say about the explosive capacity of 57-mm shells!
          http://авиару.рф/aviamuseum/dvigateli-i-vooruzhen
          ie / aviatsionnoe-vooruzhenie / sssr / aviatsionnye-rak
          ety / neupravlyaemye-rakety / neupravlyaemyj-reaktivn
          yj-snaryad-s-5-ars-57 /
          Yes, plus the weight of warheads of 200 grams is small and the fragments from this rocket could hit manpower only near the place of the explosion. Even a thick quilted robe was not pierced a little further.
          1. Speedy
            Speedy 11 February 2017 18: 04
            +1
            Well this is with us removed. I think in warehouses and documentation should remain. Even at the end of the last century, something was developed for it, possibly for export. C5 box eg.
      3. 73bor
        73bor 11 February 2017 18: 55
        +2
        Yes, something reminds me of a “miracle weapon”, only this weapon is not for the poor and wretched it is an element of the strike complex, without a powerful industrial and economic base it is just “zilch!” All the same, that I can make cool soles that are not erased but I can not sew a boot or boot!
      4. Alex20042004
        Alex20042004 11 February 2017 19: 04
        +3
        Here he is, the hero of our time:
      5. antivirus
        antivirus 12 February 2017 11: 45
        0
        They really went from dependence on the Russian Federation (not only gas).
        let them go their own way, I will not lay straws with them. They will die in a ditch; I’ll walk by my side, I won’t even spit in their direction and I won’t say a bad word. This is their life and death will be.
    4. KLIMCHUGUNKIN
      KLIMCHUGUNKIN 11 February 2017 16: 58
      +2
      Where does junk about Sevastopol come from? The center has been operating for a long time.
      The production and technical base for servicing the aerospace defense "Granite", which appeared in Sevastopol in the summer of 2016, is 150% loaded with orders. The initiator of the opening of a new defense enterprise in our city was the Almaz-Antey Concern for Aerospace Defense.
      Workshops and administrative buildings were installed on the territory of the Mayak Ship Lighting Engineering Plant. Construction began in May 2016 in a wasteland, and on July 30, the grand opening of the new Granit plant took place. This is a subsidiary of the Almaz-Antey aerospace defense concern. In their structure, this is already the 10th military-industrial facility in Russia.
      And about the new Ukrainian missiles, see the website of Ukroboronprom. Everything is clear there.
      This Poroshenko NURS called rockets.
    5. Alex20042004
      Alex20042004 11 February 2017 18: 59
      +3
      Camrygoleheads should swallow everything!

  2. askort154
    askort154 11 February 2017 13: 40
    +2
    Poroshenko blood merchant. Periodically they pull out from the warehouses what remains of Soviet stocks and advertise it as the newly created "Ukrainian super-weapon" - writing off budget tugriks for it.
  3. yuriy55
    yuriy55 11 February 2017 13: 41
    +3
    It's time to take him to the Lubyanka so that he would not come up with all sorts of nasty things ...
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 11 February 2017 13: 55
      0
      Quote: yuriy55
      It's time to take him to the Lubyanka so that he would not come up with all sorts of nasty things ...

      And then to the Rostov garrison court !!! According to the results of which, VMN, wiping his forehead with green paint! hi
      1. PValery53
        PValery53 11 February 2017 15: 04
        +1
        The person is not big - Potroshonkin, the Ilovaysky people's court will fit, and immediately to the scaffold, without judicial bidding.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 12 February 2017 11: 46
      0
      there are air conditioners, we must immediately in Susuman
  4. marshes
    marshes 11 February 2017 13: 46
    +2
    You laugh at the prices for armaments at NURSs and ATGMs (Stugna), they can dump, even taking into account the discount for the CSTO countries,
  5. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 11 February 2017 13: 51
    +8
    Soon they will invent nuclear weapons and will shoot nuclei
    1. japs
      japs 11 February 2017 14: 02
      +6
      Already invented! Have you forgotten how TYulya threatened to shoot everyone with his atomic pistol?
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 11 February 2017 14: 57
      +2
      Quote: Herman 4223
      and will shoot the cores
      Kernels
      from under the horses, if they still remained in Ukraine! And then they could drive the latter, as the most elite RACES OF THE WORLD!
  6. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 11 February 2017 13: 56
    +3
    hi in half a second he will never even have time to fart ... piz.abol am am
    1. venik
      venik 11 February 2017 17: 55
      +8
      Quote: VadimLives
      in half a second he will never even have time to fart ... piz.abol

      ====
      Che, no one understood that the "guarantor", as always, "slightly confused" .... 0.5 sec - this is the MINIMUM time between 2 starts !! So what? Like a year ago, he posed against the backdrop of self-propelled guns "Peony" and, pointlessly in her finger, explained to the layman that this is "the largest in the world of mortars", which NO ONE in the world has !!! Created by the genius of Ukrainian engineers and the labor of Ukrainian workers ".....
      Well, a little beguiled “Peony” with “Tulip”
      PS Who is not in the courses "Peony" - a hundred guns (203 mm), and not a mortar, created and manufactured in Russia (in Ukraine they never even produced ammunition for it ...). Yes, and analogues in the world in general exist ( though a little). And Ukraine got a few pieces during the division of the armed forces in 1992.
      PSS "Tulip" (really the most powerful mortar in the world 240 mm), also of Russian origin ... So, judge for yourself !!!
  7. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 11 February 2017 13: 56
    +1
    designed for arming attack helicopters and aircraft

    I think this is the key phrase of the news.
    A logical question arises: What are the prospects for attack helicopters and airplanes?
    1. Hammerlock
      Hammerlock 11 February 2017 18: 56
      +4
      very good prospects. Working on it
  8. adma
    adma 11 February 2017 14: 03
    +8
    You can treat Poroshenko as you like, but this crap shoots. And it will arrive not weak.
    57 mm rockets are designed to hit ground targets
    20 rockets of 57 mm caliber !!!
    Instead of honing their wit at Poroshenko, they would have thought who it would fly to. And it will fly. Exactly, not exactly, in half a second volley or in half an hour. But, do not go to the fortuneteller, this volley will fly to Donetsk or Lugansk.
    1. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 11 February 2017 14: 36
      +2
      Quote: adma
      would have thought who it would fly to.

      but let’s think about everything here, what will it change? weapons for war. war is a murder. so it makes sense to sprinkle ash?
      1. adma
        adma 11 February 2017 14: 44
        +3
        Quote: Olegovi4
        so it makes sense to sprinkle ash?

        Absolutely not what. But here pogoskalstvo about Poroshenko everywhere and everywhere there is no sense whatsoever. The point is not in Poroshenko, but in his intentions and their embodiment in life. And here I see no reason for gnawing.
    2. venik
      venik 11 February 2017 18: 25
      +3
      Quote: adma
      20 rockets of 57 mm caliber !!!

      ====
      Well, actually, the Russian Aerospace Forces have long begun to move away from the 57-mm NURS (S-5) due to the very weak warhead (only 200 grams of explosives) and the short firing range (2 km). For a long time, preference has been given to the 80-mm NURS S-8. Today, turntables with 32-charge S-5 cassettes can be seen quite rarely (apparently, old stocks are being depleted). At all modern exhibitions, Russian turntables are equipped with 20-charging S-8 blocks (they are not only high-explosive fragmentation, but also cumulative and concrete-piercing and even thermobaric!). Actually, why did the APU suddenly prefer the “obsolete” caliber? One conclusion suggests itself - apparently some units or fuel were produced earlier in Ukraine - and this was the only one that they could master .... The very small (for such a caliber) launch container capacity is also surprising - only 20 pcs! Then, as the UB-32A-24 containers were designed for 32 (!!!) missiles! And the B-8V and B-8 M1 blocks - for the same 20 units, but much more powerful 80-mm NURS S-8 !!!
      ===
      Quote: adma
      do not go to the fortuneteller, this volley will fly to Donetsk or Lugansk.

      Well, for this at least it is necessary to fly there !! (That in the presence of anti-aircraft defense is not an easy task at all !! Moreover, in acute LAX DEFICIENCY)
  9. Altona
    Altona 11 February 2017 14: 06
    0
    Quote: marshes
    You laugh at the prices for armaments at NURSs and ATGMs (Stugna), they can dump, even taking into account the discount for the CSTO countries,

    --------------------------
    The ISIS brothers delivered MANPADS without batteries and something else. Dumping, but ...
    1. marshes
      marshes 11 February 2017 14: 08
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      The ISIS brothers delivered MANPADS without batteries and something else. Dumping, but ...

      Where does infa come from?
  10. Kibl
    Kibl 11 February 2017 14: 06
    +2
    Who would have taken from this "news" at the residence of this ghoul or at the Rada !!!!!
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 11 February 2017 15: 01
      +1
      Quote: KIBL
      Who would pick from this "novelty" at the residence of this ghoul

      There is another caliber needed!
  11. Altona
    Altona 11 February 2017 14: 08
    0
    Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
    A logical question arises: What are the prospects for attack helicopters and airplanes?

    -------------------------
    Do you need it? Know how many juntais have aviation. When the juntais run out of weapons, the weapons from the countries of the former Warsaw Treaty are driven up. It’s not known in any way, since the source is from the outside ...
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 11 February 2017 19: 19
      0
      And the pilots, too, from the outside, or their own still?
  12. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 February 2017 14: 08
    +4
    To new heights. laughing

  13. NEXUS
    NEXUS 11 February 2017 14: 17
    +7
    This whole change will be announced until the first, shot down by Russian air defense, helicopter or combat aircraft of Ukraine near our borders. And then weeping and the stench will begin that the Russian invaders are killing the Ukrainian valiant pilots who peacefully shell the cities of Donbass.
  14. Holoy
    Holoy 11 February 2017 14: 19
    +2
    This is a problem for Russia ... They know how to make rockets
    1. marshes
      marshes 11 February 2017 14: 24
      +2
      Quote: Holoy
      This is a problem for Russia ... They know how to make rockets

      Even more suspicious are the successes of creating a Chinese nuclear missile shield. Yes, there are many Ukrainians there.
  15. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 11 February 2017 14: 20
    +2
    All the "new" from the old Soviet stocks, they finish off the economy, they would finish off as soon as possible, they give a control shot to get exhausted ...
  16. Berkut24
    Berkut24 11 February 2017 14: 40
    +2
    Well, new ones! Just brought from Bulgaria!
  17. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 11 February 2017 14: 46
    +3
    There is good news. Ukroboronprom has developed new missile weapons for the Air Force of Ukraine.

    Someone in the warehouse dug.
    S-5 - Soviet unguided missile developed at NII-1 NKB, together with OKB-16 NKOP and NITI (B) (fuses), and designed to destroy enemy equipment and manpower. The USSR Air Force entered service in April 1955.

    These missiles were equipped with various types of combat aircraft and helicopters. The launch of rockets is made from the starting devices suspended on the carrier.

    Caliber: 57 mm
    Feather Range: 232 mm
    Length: 882 mm
    Effective launch range: 800-1800 m
    Maximum speed: up to 725 m / s
    Engine Run Time: 0,55-0,92 Sec
    Circular Probable Deviation: 0,35% of Range
    Starting weight: 3,86 kg
    Warhead Weight: 0,815 kg
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 11 February 2017 15: 10
      +1
      Quote: Incvizitor
      . The USSR Air Force entered service in April 1955.

      Given the temporary shift in the brains of dill, the claimed "innovations" for them are the latest of the newest!
  18. awg75
    awg75 11 February 2017 15: 17
    0
    in Ukraine there is BEFORE FUCKING technical documentation. those who sold ICBM technology to China will probably be able to make a (maybe not entirely reliable) copy of the NURS. bad of course, but it is.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 12 February 2017 06: 09
      0
      It remains only to build a factory.
  19. ZVS
    ZVS 11 February 2017 15: 34
    0
    ParAschenko no longer knows how to raise the morale of those who have been beaten to the ears of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  20. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 11 February 2017 16: 05
    +4
    How can I figure it out without half a liter? "20 57-mm rockets"? What is it like ? For example, X-NUMX-mm NURS of C-57 were "fired" from the UB-5-16 and UB-57-32 blocks. In addition, the 57-mm NURs can be "declared" as the latest weapons; if in Russian aviation, 57-mm unguided aircraft Are missiles considered obsolete weapons and aren’t used now? During the "Afghan" war, the insufficient efficiency of the warheads of the C-57 missiles, due to their small caliber, was revealed.
  21. K-50
    K-50 11 February 2017 16: 18
    +2
    How many Ukraine attack helicopters and aircraft, Poroshenko did not explain. Nor did he explain the novelty of these “tested” aircraft munitions ...

    So it’s necessary to blurt out at least about some “help”, and the same without achievements, only “zrad”. what laughing
  22. P36M2
    P36M2 11 February 2017 16: 28
    +2
    Google Ukrainian version:
    - Ok Google, what has improved in Ukraine since Maidan?
    - Your request has been submitted to the SBU department for the fight against separatism.
  23. P36M2
    P36M2 11 February 2017 16: 36
    +1
    Quote: marshes
    Quote: Altona
    The ISIS brothers delivered MANPADS without batteries and something else. Dumping, but ...

    Where does infa come from?

    So it wasn’t just covered, there the broads spoke with a video message, there was even a plot on Russia-24, they say Ukrainians you’ll answer for this, we’ll get to Kuev, we will avenge him, cut it off. There was a supply through Kuwait and Jordan, and a large consignment was really thrown.
  24. bootlegger
    bootlegger 11 February 2017 17: 05
    +1
    New is well forgotten (in stock) old.
  25. sounddoc
    sounddoc 11 February 2017 17: 55
    +2
    Serious Pete spotlighted a new ukrovundervaflu! Vata was envious))))))
  26. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 11 February 2017 19: 15
    0
    I'm not a pilot, can someone explain how this super new weapon differs from this Soviet one?

    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 12 February 2017 08: 39
      0
      In the photo, blocks with 80mm NURSs, on the early Mi - * / 24 were 32x charging 57mm NURSs. Due to low efficiency, 57mm was removed from service. 70mm caliber is used in NATO countries ... At 57mm NURSs, legs grow even from the first MiG-17/19/21, Su-7 fighter jets ... they began to be used to fire at enemy bombers, and only then on the ground.
  27. Abel
    Abel 11 February 2017 19: 23
    0
    Judging by the photograph, mm holes were drilled in the disc. at 60, where the old NURSs are shoved. The disc is heavy, cast (forged), so you can launch several missiles at once. The only negative: the helicopter takes off
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 11 February 2017 19: 26
      +1
      And what was drilled? I do not understand how Ukrainian nurses differ from Soviet? We like the same in Chechnya, the pilots seemed to be and just like a gulp you can shoot them ... What's new? It seems to me Poroshenko just drove off some nonsense, passed off as new, something that had long been ...
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 11 February 2017 20: 05
      +1
      Another minus: there’s nothing to hang on, all BCH helicopters beat, well, they’ll build a thread like that.
  28. bionik
    bionik 11 February 2017 20: 43
    +1
    Screensaver of the article (picture) in my opinion this block of Nurses is made from an old boiler just freshly painted laughing
  29. sergei1975
    sergei1975 11 February 2017 20: 43
    +4
    What are rockets made of? And where should I hook them?
  30. DMB84
    DMB84 11 February 2017 22: 08
    +5
    The people .... the choir can promote strategic directions with beer mugs. Are there any normal men left here? Or the kiss of pre-conscription age? Ukraine is quite a normal state in size ... After the separation, yes ... many connections were broken, a lot of things were stolen by ourselves. The defense industry., As I observe here, ukrov is developing at a faster pace. They develop it. Get money. Considerable. You are constantly being hungry. Cool. Patriotic to immensity. We can’t do it when it suddenly turns out that the neighbors have weapons superior to that. What is created in the Russian Federation? With our "throw caps". and here- "they are kakly there, they are still someone there .." First of all, on the other side of the demarcation are the same Slavs. With the same mentality as on our side of the border. Well, the brain was washed ... And we ... can ... Guys, be careful with expressions. These are our brothers, on the other side of the demarcation line. Well .. Much closer than the Americans.
    1. mlad
      mlad 12 February 2017 09: 25
      +1
      In Russia, with its riches and vastness, it is difficult to re-equip, but now we’ll imagine the Ukrainian situation which is 10 times worse, and what massive re-equipment can it be, that something new can come from where Russia bought weapons from them and supported production, but this is not enough for long
    2. bk316
      bk316 12 February 2017 15: 15
      +2
      when it suddenly turns out

      If it doesn’t turn out to be unexpected, then it certainly won’t turn out to be, say yourself see next to everything
      These are our brothers

      Maybe enough already, brother Bandera?
      1. DMB84
        DMB84 14 February 2017 22: 45
        +1
        It was already. Vyatichi on Krivichy, Kolomna on Kashira, I am silent about Moscow and the Moscow Region. "there are not enough real violent ones", the rest are the same Slavs, stupid, but with well-brainwashed. Treat the bulk must be as sick. To seriously ill. Especially to the boys. That only play war, out of stupidity. At a young age they didn’t go to a neighboring area as a fighter? Then after all has passed. Brains fell into place, things formed more importantly, family, children. So far there are no brains. Till. And what, you propose to arrange total genocide? All under one comb, a nuclear explosion? Well, if there was an opportunity? After all, there are all "Bandera", and just born, and the elderly and women ..
  31. mlad
    mlad 12 February 2017 09: 18
    0
    Well, great peremoga, new square-section missiles have been made, so they fall faster. laughing
  32. svp67
    svp67 12 February 2017 09: 25
    0
    How many Ukraine attack helicopters and aircraft, Poroshenko did not explain. Nor did he explain the novelty of these “tested” aircraft munitions ...
    How in what? They were painted in the "yellow-black" ...
  33. FREGATEN
    FREGATEN 12 February 2017 11: 13
    0
    What is the article gentlemen about? Because of my dense name, I thought that now I would really learn about rockets ...... Naive ..... the point of the article is to show that Poroshenko is a balabol! So this is so everyone knows ..... What is it with rockets then? Well, call the article ... And so the article for the sake of the article?
  34. _my opinion
    _my opinion 12 February 2017 11: 28
    0
    continuous development ... for whom only?
    in a couple of weeks they will forget about this next development and a new one will appear and so on ...
    development is the very initial stage, then we need technologies (machines, people who can work on them, the means for all this ...) then we need tests (at least the means and time) revision according to the test results,
    mass production, personnel training, and finally any weapon without those who use it effectively (this is both personnel and command) - this is just a piece of iron
    these are all links of one chain - remove one and the chain will fall apart ...
  35. nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 12 February 2017 17: 58
    0
    Are there any helicopters?
  36. Appraiser
    Appraiser 12 February 2017 20: 40
    +1
    All these statements of Parashenko remind stories from the film "Flight over the Cuckoo's Nest." It’s immediately visible that he mows under the fool, because it’s the easiest way to rule “Dill”: laughing hi : ...
  37. Fagelov
    Fagelov 17 February 2017 22: 20
    0
    Quote: sergei1975
    What are rockets made of? And where should I hook them?

    The answer to the question is simple: a pig for a hoof.