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Revealed the secrets of the Leningrad blockade

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Revealed the secrets of the Leningrad blockadeToday we will once again celebrate the Day of the complete liberation of Leningrad from the fascist blockade. Recently, for the sake of interest in Yandex, I typed the words “Blockade of Leningrad” and received the following answer: “After breaking the blockade, the siege of Leningrad by enemy troops and fleet lasted until September 1944. "


Do you understand anything? Why, it's not something that a tenth-grader, not even a university graduate can figure it out. How did it happen that in the 73 of the year several hundred books and thousands of articles on the siege of Leningrad were published in the 1941 – 1944 years, but so many white spots and omissions remained? Anyway, how could 872 of the day hold besieged Leningrad? After all, there was no such siege in stories of humanity!

In the first months of the Great Patriotic War, German troops defeated units of the Red Army in the Baltic States, Belarus and Ukraine, rapidly captured the Crimea and ... stood up rooted in the outskirts of Leningrad. What happened? Perhaps, the Soviet pilots, tankers and infantry fought less courageously near Minsk, Kiev and Uman? But after all, in a few days, much larger Soviet groups were completely destroyed and captured than at Leningrad.

In the Khrushchev-Brezhnev times, we were assured that the "Leningrad Bolsheviks" stopped the enemy. It still led me to seditious thoughts at school, that, they say, communists were second-rate in Kiev, and in Minsk, surrendered on the sixth day of the war, in general, it was not standard. And now the liberals claim that the Germans were stopped by the “Petersburg intelligentsia”. She de refined in a special way. They say that the Germans Shostakovich and Olga Bergholz listened and immediately stopped.

Not. The Germans were stopped by the Russian god of war — the heavy artillery of forts, railway installations and ships. And competent actions of the Supreme High Command helped to keep, thanks to which, despite the blockade, Leningrad was not only supplied with food, but the military power of the Leningrad Front and the Baltic Fleet was maintained at a high level.

GIVE UP NO ONE GOING TO GO

Since 1991, the liberals have blamed for the deaths of people in the blockade on ... Bet. Well, the “Rain” TV channel has come to the survey: “Did Leningrad have to be surrendered in order to save hundreds of thousands of lives?” Supposedly 53% answered “yes”, and 47% - “no”. A similar survey - and blasphemy, and complete idiocy. With equal success, you can ask, wasn’t it better for the inhabitants of Leningrad to fly to Mars?

To begin with, the Soviet troops never gave up. In 1904, General Stoessel surrendered Port Arthur to the Japanese, and in May 1905, Admiral Nebogatov in the Tsushima Strait, a squadron of four battleships. In the 1942 year, the British surrendered the most powerful Singapore fortress, and even earlier, in May-June 1940, the Dutch, Belgian and French armies surrendered to the Germans. In our 1941 – 1945 years not a single regiment, not a single combat ship surrendered. Just surrender to the enemy in the statute of the Red Army was not provided.

By the time of the capture of Xlumselburg 6 in September 1941, over half a million soldiers and officers were in the troops of the Leningrad Front. And this is without the Baltic Fleet. Neither the front nor the fleet from Leningrad has nowhere to go. It remained to fight or capitulate. And if someone from the command gave the order to surrender, he would immediately be shot by officers or even soldiers. Even Stalin, having given the order to surrender the Leningrad Front and the Baltic Fleet without a fight, would have signed the death warrant to himself.

Hitler did not intend to accept the capitulation of Leningrad. He ordered to level the city with the land. Even if a miracle happened and the Fuhrer enrolled in humanists, the Germans could not supply the city, since all highways and railways in the occupied territories worked at the limit of their capabilities and still could not fully supply the Wehrmacht with either fuel, or food, or ammunition.

Cities, even occupied by the Germans on the move, without long battles, such as Minsk and Kiev, lost during the occupation from 70 to 90% of the population.

By the way, according to the rules of the war, since the 16th century it was supposed to leave all military equipment and property intact when the city or fortress was surrendered. Otherwise, the other side will consider the garrison a violator of military laws and deal with it accordingly.

In September, 1941, in Leningrad, there were more submarines than in the whole kriegsmarine. No wonder Churchill tearfully begged Stalin in the case of the capture of Leningrad by the Germans to blow up the ships. With proper use of the ships of the Baltic Fleet by the Germans, they could disrupt the supply of England and "win" the battle for the Atlantic.

There were more heavy guns at the forts of Leningrad, at the NIMAP (training ground on Rzhevka) and in parts of the Leningrad front than on all our other fronts and in the rear. Stalin sarcastically wrote to Zhdanov: “You have heavy tanks (KV) more than on all other fronts. ”

And all this had to be given to the Germans? And pay for the surrender of Leningrad millions of lives?

In the case of the surrender of Leningrad, Murmansk, Arkhangelsk and the Northern Fleet would be lost, communications with the allies in the North would be interrupted. Well, then ... Then let the fans add fantasy.

ALMOST AROUND EVACUATION

And now a few words about what the authorities and residents did before the blockade. Why, even before the outbreak of war, hundreds of thousands of dependents (unemployed women, children, retirees) did not go on vacation from the city? Didn’t they read the Soviet press? As a student, I studied the filings of the newspaper Pravda for the years 1939-1940. It described in detail and objectively the massive bombing of British and German cities in Italy. aviation and accordingly the Luftwaffe - English cities. Did it never occur to anyone that Leningrad would be bombed in the very first days of the war? Fortunately, from the north, even with the new border, the flight time to the city was less than 10 minutes.

At the beginning of 1941, the population of Leningrad was about 3 million people, of which over 2,5 million were people who arrived there several years or even months ago. Judge for yourself: in 1920, 722 thousand people lived in Leningrad. Of these, at least thousands of 200 were expelled or planted in the 1930s (there were special city purges from nobles, former officials and intellectuals, declassed elements, etc.).

Family ties 80 years ago were much closer, and go to the village to the second cousin uncle for permanent residence was not considered shameful. Well, the state for free or for 30% gave vouchers to holiday homes, motels, pioneer camps, etc.

Alas, very few people left Leningrad to rest on 22 June, despite widespread talk of war.

A week after the start of the war, 30 June, the city evacuation center was opened at the address Griboyedov Canal, d. 6. A few days later, district evacuation centers opened. On 12-th (!) Day of War, the Lensovet adopted a resolution on the evacuation of thousands of children from the city of 400. Alas, according to this resolution, only 311,4 thousand children were taken out before the blockade began.

July – August 1941. Widespread retreat of our troops. In the north, the cannon fire rumbles - the Finns are coming. The Germans bombed Leningrad. And hundreds of thousands of stubborn ladies categorically refuse to evacuate. The instructors of the regional committee began to threaten obstinamians with the deprivation of ration cards. In response: "And we will live without them." It is not hard to guess that the main motive was also before 22 June, and in the first 8 weeks after it was - “What if my Petya is on a spree?”

However, evacuation points (and there were other escape routes) were sent before 6 September 1941 of the person 706 283. In October – November, 1941 was evacuated on ships of the Ladoga Flotilla by 33 479.

On the Ladoga ice 539 was taken by thousands of people. And finally, with the opening of 1942 navigation of the year from May to November, 448 699 people sailed on ships through Ladoga. 1 November 1942, the evacuation from Leningrad was officially completed. Further departure from the city was made only by special passes.

CITY SUPPLY

The headquarters did everything possible for the organization of the air bridge Leningrad - Big Land.

20 September 1941 The State Defense Committee (GKO) adopted a decree “On the organization of air transport links between Moscow and Leningrad”, according to which it was supposed to deliver 100 tons of cargo to the city daily and evacuate 1000 people.

For transportation, the Special Northern Aviation Group of the Civil Fleet based in Leningrad and the Special Baltic Aviation Squad included in its structure began to be used. There were also three squadrons of the Moscow Special Purpose Air Group (MAGON) as part of the 30 Li-2 aircraft that made the first flight to Leningrad on September 16. Later, the number of units involved in aviation supply was increased. Also used for transportation heavy bombers TB-3.

21 November 1941 delivered the maximum amount of cargo per day to Leningrad - 214 tons. From September to December, more than 5 thousand tons of food was delivered by air to Leningrad and 50 thousand people were transported.

The laying of the communication cable along the bottom of Ladoga on the mainland began on August 10, and as early as October 1941, telephone and telegraph communication over this cable operated smoothly.

At the end of 1941, when the Germans approached the Volkhovskaya HPP, part of the electrical equipment was dismantled and evacuated. In the spring of 1942, the Volkhovstroy earned again. On the bottom of Lake Ladoga on the orders of Stalin five power cables were laid. The first cable was laid for 47 days, and already 23 September 1942, the electricity went to Leningrad.

In December 1942, electricity consumption in Leningrad increased 4 times as compared with August.

25 June 1942 of the year issued a decree on the establishment of a GKO on the Ladoga pipeline with a length of 30 km, of which more than 20 km is along the bottom of the lake. There were no similar structures for 1942 in the world, and then we had to run a pipeline under the enemy's bombs and shelling.

Construction of the pipeline began on May 5, and 19 ended on June 1942 of the year, that is, the pipeline was built in just 46 days. Those interested can compare these dates with the construction time of cables and pipelines across the Kerch Strait in 2014 – 2016 years.

20 May 1942, gasoline and oil went to besieged Leningrad (successively several types of petroleum products). Work on the construction of the pipeline were so secretive that the Germans did not know about them until the end of the blockade.

From 24 May to 3 December 1942, the Ladoga Flotilla ships carried 55 thousand tons of fuel, and 32,6 thousand tons arrived through the pipeline.

There were other, sometimes even exotic ways of supplying Leningrad.

Thus, in March 1942, the best deer 300 were selected at the Loukhskoye reindeer husbandry farm. Reindeer and two cars of frozen fish were taken by rail to Tikhvin. There, the reindeer were divided into two groups: one went across the ice of Ladoga in teams with a fish loaded on sleds, and the other was sent by the herd. As a result, not a single car was required up to Leningrad itself.

300 deer heads are about 15 tons of meat - and 25 tons of fish in Leningrad received in March beyond what the motor transport could bring to the city on an ice road. And this is more than two months of the official norm for 10 thousand people.

NOT NOTED HEROES

Hundreds of books have been written about the defenders of Leningrad since 1945, but, alas, almost all the authors have focused on the heroism of the personnel, the role of the Communist Party and individual commanders, the actions of aviation, tank and infantry units. The god of war somehow remained in the shadows. And here it’s not only the authors ’subjectivity, but also the secrecy of the materials about the actions of our and German artillery. The fact is that forts, command posts and other underground structures of Leningrad were restored after the war and served the army and navy for many decades. Many of them were used to deploy missile units, communication centers, warehouses, etc.

Extremely explosive is the theme of the action of Soviet long-range artillery on the palaces captured by the Germans and other buildings in the vicinity of Leningrad - in Petergof, Strelna, Gatchina, Pavlovsk, etc.

With the transfer of the main fleet forces from Tallinn to Kronstadt 30 August 1941, all the arriving ships, except for the leader “Minsk”, which required emergency repairs, were included in the defense system of the city. Thus, by the beginning of the hostilities to repel the German troops that had broken through to Leningrad in the artillery defense system were: the battleships Marat and the October Revolution, the cruisers Kirov, Maxim Gorky and Petropavlovsk, 1 and 2- Battalions of destroyers in the 10 pennants and 8 gunboats.

From the side of the Gulf of Finland, Leningrad was covered by the Kronstadt fortress, the construction of which began under Peter the Great. The strongest fort of Kronstadt was the fort "Krasnaya Gorka", advancing on the southern coast of the Gulf of Finland on 20 km west of the tip of Kotlin Island.

By the time the Germans approached Leningrad, the following batteries were in service with the Fort Krasnaya Gorka.

Battery No. 311 - two two-gun turrets with 305 / 52-mm cannons. These guns were almost identical to the guns of the Petropavlovsk type battleships. Shooting from 305-mm coastal guns was carried out both by sea shells and military shells, and the latter were extremely few.

Battery No. 312 - Four open 305 / 52-mm units.

Battery No. 313 - three 120 / 50-mm guns installed in the southern part of the land defense of the front.

Battery number 322 - introduced in July 1941, had three 152 / 45-mm cane guns.

There were two coastal batteries in the “Gray Horse” fort - No. 331 with three Xane guns / 152-mm cannons and No. 45 with four 332 / 120-mm guns. In 50, the 1943-mm guns were replaced with 332 / 120-mm B-130 on the 50-th battery.

In addition, the fortress consisted of five island batteries on the South (main) fairway near the island of Coltin and seven - on the Northern fairway. The northern forts were located approximately on the line of the current dam.

Finally, dozens of 100 – 254 mm guns were on Kotlin Island, both in the old forts and openly installed during the war.

A large role in the defense of Leningrad was played by the scientific test artillery naval test site (NIMAP), located on the eastern outskirts of Leningrad, near the Rzhevka railway station. Tests of small and medium-caliber sea guns, up to 130-mm inclusive, were carried out on NIMAP from “native” machines, and guns of 152-406 mm caliber - from special polygon machines. Since the beginning of the war, the landfill machines were adapted for circular shelling.

From the number of guns that were at the site, was formed six batteries and one anti-aircraft group. The armament of these batteries consisted of one 406-mm, one 356-mm, two 305-mm, five 180-mm guns, and 12 guns of 100-152 mm.

DUEL OF GODS OF WAR

I am afraid that I tired the reader with a list of coastal batteries and their places of installation. But, alas, without this it is impossible to understand the grandiose artillery battle for Leningrad, which lasted 900 days in the territory over 150 km from west to east and over 100 km from north to south. Ships and coastal batteries were set up in such a way that the Germans and Finns positions along the entire perimeter of the defense were fired at least 20 kilometers with our guns.

In total, Leningrad was protected by 360 naval and coastal long-range guns of caliber from 406 to 100 mm. These our guns entered into a duel unprecedented in the history of artillery with approximately 250 heavy guns of the Germans.

Happy 4 September 1941, the German artillery first opened fire on Leningrad. The Vitebsk sorting station, the Salolin, the Red Oilman and the Bolshevik plants were subjected to artillery fire. The Germans fired from the Tosno area.

Soviet military leader, a participant in the battles for Leningrad, Colonel-General Artillery, Candidate of Military Sciences Nikolai Nikolayevich Zhdanov wrote in his book The Flame Arrest of Leningrad: “The shelling of the city had nothing to do with the armed struggle of the opposing armies. These were barbaric shelling, as a result of which the civilian population suffered, cultural institutions were destroyed, many of them were unique, hospitals, hospitals, schools, and various children's institutions. ”

Only in September 1941, the Germans fired a 5364 projectile in Leningrad.

On September 17, the Germans managed to break through to the southern coast of the Gulf of Finland in the area of ​​New Peterhof, Strelna, Uritsk and get an opportunity to conduct aimed fire from short distances (30 – 40 cable - about 5,5 – 7,5 km) at Soviet ships that fired from open firing positions outside raids of the Neva Bay and the Sea Canal. Our ships were limited in fire maneuvering and were subjected to enemy aviation and artillery strikes.

In October, the enemy launched 1941 7950 shells in Leningrad, in November - 11 230 shells. In all, from September to December 1941, inclusive, the city fell 30 154 projectile.

With a pencil, I studied the daily reports on the shooting of our artillery for all the 872 blockade days and I can assure you that no shelling of the enemy was left unanswered by our artillery.

From Soviet times, we saw plenty of movies, like dozens of "Tigers" and "Panthers" are beating out of anti-tank rifles like ducks from Moscow and Stalingrad. Therefore, I am afraid that the reader will doubtfully treat my assertions that our heavy artillery near Leningrad acted not only effectively, but also with minimal losses. So, all (!) Guns survived on NIAP. The same can be said about the "Red Hill", "Reef" and other forts.

During the entire siege of Leningrad in the 1941 – 1944 years, not a single large and medium caliber railway installation was lost. And at the same time, with their help, hundreds of enemy guns were smashed or suppressed and thousands of enemy soldiers were destroyed.

THE ARTISTS OF THE ARTILERS

The exit position, quick and accurate hit and instant withdrawal. In this case, the complete disguise before the strike, during the strike and after the strike.

Railway installations near Leningrad were not similar to artillery transporters in reference books or museums. They rather resembled thickets of bushes - a bunch of branches and camouflage nets. The plant produces a 356 – 180 caliber projectile mm and leaves in half a minute. “Yes in what half a minute? - the historian will be indignant. “After all, according to the instruction to move the ZhDAU from the combat to the marching position, 30 (!) Minutes is laid.”

Well, who cares about instruction, and who cares about life. Commanders and fighters simply ignored all instructions. So, the sites were not cleaned, the mount was mounted at the exit from the firing positions, the longitudinal bars were tipped off to the side, and the supporting cushions were left in place. Departure from a position at a distance of 400 – 500 m was accomplished under its own power and at low speeds, with loose supporting legs. Subsequently, the supporting legs ceased to throw on the carts, but only lifted on the 20 – 30 cm from the rail head.

Of course, the spread “legs” of the ZhDAU could have demolished the dacha apron, would have caused a train wreck on an oncoming lane. But all the buildings have long been demolished, oncoming trains could not be physically.

Most often used such a method. Gun No. 1 fired and began to withdraw to a new position at a distance of 100 – 200 meters. Then shot the gun number 2 and also began to withdraw. Well, when, after the shot, the gun number 3, lifting a few centimeters above the ground "legs", began to withdraw, fired gun number 1, which has already taken a new position.

So that the sound stations and optical equipment of the enemy could not detect the shooting of railway transporters, the 122-mm A-19 cannons and the 152-mm ML-20 cannon guns opened fire with them. Sometimes railway installations of caliber 130 – 100 mm were also involved. In addition, explosives, imitating heavy guns, were actively used.

AND HELP OF PLANTS

So, no ZhDAU perished from the impact of the enemy. But from frequent, almost daily fire, trunks were wearing out, wheel chocks, bolts, lifting mechanisms, etc. failed. But then Leningrad plants Bolshevik, Kirovsky, Arsenal (the Frunze plant) came to the rescue.

Thus, according to reports of the Bolshevik plant, during the blockade, over 3 thousand (!) Bodies of naval guns and 20 thousand medium-size and large-caliber shells were manufactured. Well, let's say, the liners were also included in the reports along with the trunks. But the difference is in cost, not in vitality.

The Germans knew about the activities of the Bolshevik and, at the beginning of 1942, installed 10 long-range stationary batteries in the Fedorovskoye-Antropshino area specifically for the destruction of the Bolshevik workshops. In addition, on the Novo-Liseno – Pavlovsk line, German rail installations regularly operated, which also shelled the plant. And they, in turn, were suppressed by our ZhDAU along with stationary marine batteries and the guns of ships stationed on the Neva. An ideal example of mutual assistance of the rear and front.

Finns turned out worse than Nazis

In recent years, media reports have appeared that Leningrad was saved by ... Marshal Mannerheim. This is what the current Minister of Culture says. Mannerheim de ordered his troops to stop at the 1939 border of the year, forbade shelling and bombing Leningrad with guns, etc.

In fact, the Finns did not stop at the old border, but on the line of the Karelian UR - the impregnable line of the Soviet fortifications, which had been built since the 1920s.

The Finns didn’t really fire Nevsky Prospect and Kirovsky Plant, since the Germans ’batteries were very close. But Finnish shells almost daily covered the north-western districts of Leningrad: Lysii Nos, Olgino, Kronstadt district, etc. Finnish shells reached the area of ​​the Finnish station.

Recently my book “Who saved Leningrad in 1941 year?” Was published. The book was created on the basis of previously secret and secret Soviet documents, as well as materials recently published in Germany and Finland. The book describes in detail what kind of artillery batteries of Germans and Finns and from where they fired at Leningrad, and how our gunners suppressed the fire of these batteries. How much was spent at the same time shells, etc., etc.

Finnish aircraft did not really appear over Leningrad until February 1944. But this was done not by order of Mannerheim, but at the suggestion of the Reichsmarschall Goering, in order to avoid clashes with the Luftwaffe. The Finnish pilots flew mainly on British and Soviet captured cars, and it was very difficult for the Germans to distinguish them from the Soviet and Lend-Lease planes. But on the ships of the Ladoga flotilla transporting people and food for Leningrad, Finnish aviation worked much more efficiently than the German one.

The principal difference between the Germans and the Finns is that the Germans killed and sent commissars, communists, partisans, etc. to concentration camps. And the Finns did it only because the person was an ethnic Russian.

According to the census 1939 of the year, 469 thousand people lived in Karelia. Of these, 63,2% Russians, 23,2% Karelians and 1,8% Finns. Even before 22 June 1941, Marshal Mannerheim ordered that all ethnic Russians be captured in concentration camps after the capture of Soviet Karelia. After all, back in 1922, the Academic Karelian Society of Finland developed a theory of national superiority. According to this theory, the Finns were at the highest stage of development, then the Finno-Ugric peoples, and the Slavs and Jews at the lowest level. And two weeks after the Finns seized Karelia, 14 concentration camps for ethnic Russians functioned there. They were mostly old men, women and children. For prisoners of war there were other camps.

Thus, in the Olovoinen concentration camp No. 8 of 3000 prisoners, about 1500 people survived for the day of liberation. In the 1942 year, out of the free population of Petrozavodsk, 201 people died, and in concentration camps - 2493 people.

CELEBRATION IS TO BE MARKED BY NATIONAL FORUM

Should 27 January be marked as the day of the final blockade? Certainly necessary. But not as the final elimination of the siege ring, but only as the defeat of the German troops near Leningrad.

In the course of the Leningrad-Novgorod offensive operation - the First Stalin Strike is now called - our troops from 4 January to 1 in March 1944 rejected parts of the Wehrmacht to 120 – 180 km from the initial positions near Leningrad. Nevertheless, the counter battery attack of the ships of the Baltic Fleet, the forts of Kronstadt and the railway artillery did not subside for a single day from the beginning of March to June 1944 of the year in Leningrad. Moreover, the intensity of these shooting is not inferior to 1941 – 1942 years. For whom did they shoot? According to the Germans, entrenched under Narva?

Alas, the northern sector of the blockade ring remained intact, and heavy shells flew from there to Kronstadt, Olgino, Lisiy Nos and other areas of Leningrad. And then our gunners received an order ...

Only 9 June 1944 of the year began the final lifting of the blockade of Leningrad. Hundreds of heavy cannon batteries of the Leningrad Front, the Baltic Fleet, including ships, forts, railway installations and 406 – 180-mm installations of a research and development test site were hit on Finnish troops. The 31 division, 6 brigades and 4 fortified areas went on the offensive.

And 17 June 1944, 180-mm rail installations have already smashed Vyborg. The Finns really hoped for the British, and here on June 20 heavy Churchill tanks broke into Vyborg. But, to the great disappointment of the Finns, they had red stars.
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  1. Cat
    Cat 29 January 2017 06: 29
    +19
    As soon as I read the first two paragraphs, confidence crept into my soul - A. Shirokorad. Many thanks to the author for the article! Still, the guns are yours !?
    Sincerely, Kitty!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 29 January 2017 19: 21
      +4
      Quote: Kotischa
      As soon as I read the first two paragraphs,

      Well yes! The author is not modest, as he famously revealed the secrets of the Leningrad blockade. That is, he is all in ignorance, and he is such a “handsome” who revealed all the secrets in one article!
  2. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 29 January 2017 06: 45
    +14
    I’ve read 3 sections of the article so far. I like the beginning of the article, because the main topic is Heroism of Leningraders! There are a lot of numbers. While I was somewhat surprised about the evacuation, I recently read on another resource that the colossal evacuation work was carried out in difficult conditions and positively evaluated this work. It is necessary to compare, contrast, it turns out, some kind of break.
    The author is certainly right in that, despite the large number of publications about the Leningrad blockade, ------ this is an eternal topic that needs attention and study.
    1. igordok
      igordok 29 January 2017 09: 25
      +8
      Eternal theme
  3. ICT
    ICT 29 January 2017 08: 04
    +6
    of course, you won’t describe everything in one article, but it seems that for the whole existence of VO there wasn’t any mention of the battles of the battery “A”, and I heard about her battles at school, about the rest from films and books, that it was Zhukov who ordered the fleet to be fought for the enemy



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  4. parusnik
    parusnik 29 January 2017 08: 28
    +25
    There were people standing at the guns and machine tools .. Soviet people .. They didn’t eat the animals that remained in the zoo, they didn’t let the parquet of the Winter Palace heating, etc ... they saved Leningrad ..
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 29 January 2017 10: 55
      +16
      In the cold, in hunger, they did not eat, did not cook the seeds of various crops, the reserves that were stored in the Botanical Garden and the Research Institute ....... But the animals had to be fed and heated !!!!!!!!!
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 29 January 2017 11: 02
        +10
        And how could such people be defeated?
        1. 97110
          97110 30 January 2017 11: 01
          +3
          Quote: parusnik
          And how could such people be defeated?

          I venture to express my opinion. As much as possible. Only it is necessary to slightly change the process of command and control of the city. For example, by the method of Serdyukov. You know it no worse than me. Over the reporting period, seen enough. And we continue to enjoy the pictures of the titanic struggle of the domestic security forces, who are ready even tomorrow to defeat NATO, the EU and the USA together with ISIS, with the sick and exhausted Moscow traffic Mara Baghdasaryan. Author's article is strong. After repeatedly expressing doubts of the creative class about the moral qualities of the leaders of Leningrad and the USSR, published in the domestic press during the years of the destruction of the motherland, after Mannerheim was proclaimed "the savior of Leningrad" with sticking a shameful plaque on the Leningrad wall, such publications are especially necessary. But from natural quarrelsomeness, I want to ask the Author how he thinks the execution of the death sentence, which fell into the text:
          Even Stalin, having ordered the surrender of the Leningrad Front and the Baltic Fleet without a fight, would have himself signed a death sentence.
          Or is it for prettiness? Did the company’s deputy politician teach you to draw up a “Battle Leaf” without fail with beautiful slogans? Then something similar about Sevastopol and Cape Chersonese ...
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 29 January 2017 11: 10
      +7
      Great article, thanks to the author.
    3. _my opinion
      _my opinion 30 December 2017 14: 22
      +1
      I will add that in Leningrad stocks of seeds were stored (many tons) and they also remained untouched ... people who worked with these stocks were starving (literally) ... many Leningrad residents came to this storehouse and stood near ... these seeds
      were a symbol of Victory, because after that war it was necessary to sow ...
  5. midshipman
    midshipman 29 January 2017 08: 32
    +31
    Thank you Alexander for the article. I want to add some details. My father created heavy artillery in the city. Its fire was corrected by sea spotters from a meat factory and from the House of Soviets they shot at 22 km, an error of 20 meters. The fascists could not even group two tanks for attack under Pulkovo. They were immediately destroyed. But his father died on December 27, 1941.
    Alexander, I published in “VO” the article “Crisis month in the defense of the city”. There will be time to look, she is on reliable materials. Now I am preparing an article about the work in the city of the Far East radio station, created in 1942. I think it will be interesting to readers of "VO". I have the honor.
  6. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 29 January 2017 09: 45
    +4
    Good article. Like in the best works. And then I already thought that the author had a deep creative crisis - lately there have been many raw articles. And this one is at a high level. Respect!
    1. creak
      creak 29 January 2017 10: 38
      +7
      Quote: Aviator_
      And this one is at a high level.


      Yeah, the passage about the Tigers and Panthers near Moscow and Stalingrad is especially impressive ... The level is really "high" ...
      1. creak
        creak 29 January 2017 11: 01
        +7
        As well as the fact that the refusal to evacuate was motivated by the fact that "my Vasya is going on a walk" - well, the statement that they say we will live without cards - here the author surpassed himself ....
        And this is supposedly said by people who have lived so long with the card system and who knew the price of cards well ...
        The author's corporate identity is recognized - categorically and unprovenly ....
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 29 January 2017 15: 04
          +2
          About cards - and if you stole so much that you can not count on the state? There were different people. And about Vasya walking, it’s if they took seriously the hat-making pre-war film “If there is a war tomorrow”. But this particular, about artillery - the main thing, and it is written well.
        2. 97110
          97110 30 January 2017 11: 05
          +1
          Quote: ranger
          motivated by the fact that "my Vasya is going on a walk"

          But Ilf and Petrov wrote something about the housing problem. Vasya can and change, where then to take the living space?
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 29 January 2017 15: 00
        +3
        The author writes about “Tigers and Panthers” with obvious sarcasm, have they really not understood?
  7. kvs207
    kvs207 29 January 2017 10: 36
    +10
    “... In the Khrushchev-Brezhnev era, we were assured that the enemy was stopped by the“ Leningrad Bolsheviks. ”This led me to seditious thoughts in school that, they say, the Communists were second-rate in Kiev, and in Minsk, surrendered on the sixth day of the war , in general - substandard ... "

    With all due respect to the author, a strange statement. At the same time, it was true, only Brezhnev’s times, that I didn’t have a shadow of doubt about the leading role of the party. And my head was not visited by “seditious thoughts” about Kiev communists of the “second grade”, simply, the enemy was stronger in those areas and the distance was shorter. But, in principle, everything was perceived as given - it happened, for various reasons.
  8. Stas57
    Stas57 29 January 2017 11: 02
    +4
    Author: Alexander Shirokorad

    you can no longer read
  9. Ham
    Ham 29 January 2017 11: 15
    +13
    about Manerheim and Finnish Nazism you always need to know more ... what would all sorts of "lovers of antiquity" know
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 29 January 2017 19: 04
      0
      Quote: Ham
      about Manerheim and Finnish Nazism you always need to know more ... what would all sorts of "lovers of antiquity" know

      Shirokorad pseudo-historian
      1. Ham
        Ham 29 January 2017 19: 41
        +2
        you love the pseudo-history of RUSS
        and Finnish concentration camps are a fact
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 29 January 2017 19: 56
          0
          Quote: Ham
          and Finnish concentration camps are a fact

          So what?
        2. Pattern
          Pattern 4 February 2017 14: 12
          0
          Camps are a fact! Like the Finns stop at the 1939 border. Mannerheim wanted revenge for the Winter War and tear off a piece of Soviet land, but hesitated. On the one hand the Germans crushed, and on the other the British. But the Germans expressed a firm stance on the participation of the Finns in the war against the USSR. The British were shy and abandoned their allies, while declaring war on them and an economic blockade. This is the first. Aircraft Li-2 (Douglas) appeared with us in 1942, and not in 1941. This is the second. The main load for the delivery of goods to Leningrad in the summer was carried by the ships and vessels of the Onega and Ladoga fleets, and in the winter by motor transport. This is the third. Comrade Shirokorad forgot to remember the balloons of the air defense forces, which did not allow to bomb Leningrad and blocked the work of artillery fire spotters. This is the fourth. One can long list all the inaccuracies of this, and not only this article of Comrade. Shirokorada. The main thing you need to know is the history of your country!
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 29 January 2017 11: 26
    +8
    "No. The Germans were stopped by the Russian god of war - the heavy artillery of the forts,
    railway installations and ships "///

    The Germans stopped Hitler's unequivocal order on September 3, 1941:
    "stop and go on the defensive." Offensive operation began
    to Moscow, and there weren’t enough tanks anymore. ALL tanks of Army Group North (by the way, their
    there was a little 50 with something pieces, light, almost all) were loaded onto platforms
    and sent to the center.
    Neither artillery, nor divisions of the national militia, nor Zhukov's "genius" are absolutely
    nothing to do with it. The simple, absurd plan of Barbarossa (the three diverging directions of the offensive)
    covered up.
    And about artillery. The Germans, not fools at all, by the way, made their positions OUTSIDE
    artillery forts and ships.
    1. Andy
      Andy 29 January 2017 14: 20
      +10
      Yeah, look where the cruiser Maxim Gorky shot from. easily capturing the Thais village, etc. 31-33 km with a range of 37 km.
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 29 January 2017 14: 30
      +10
      voyaka uh "Neither artillery, nor divisions of the people's militia, nor Zhukov's" genius "is absolutely
      nothing to do with it. "
      Yeah ... nothing to do with.))) And who stopped them hmm ... oh yes, General Winter?)))
      They stopped themselves?)))
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 January 2017 15: 36
        +4
        "They stopped themselves?)))" ////

        Without any emoticons - they themselves stopped. Due to lack of strength to storm the city.
        Tanks, elite units, and attack aircraft were handed over to the Center group.
        The last frontier, which the Wehrmacht seriously delayed, was the Luga defensive line.
        All further attempts to detain the Germans with the help of divisions of the national militia, nadolbov, etc. were completely futile. The Germans had good aerial reconnaissance: all infantry positions, the lines of hedgehogs and nadolba simply bypassed.
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 29 January 2017 16: 01
          +8
          voyaka uh "Due to lack of forces to storm the city."
          Well, yes, the Germans were still going to Leningrad ... their feet had been erased to the point of blood, so there wasn’t enough strength to storm it. On hospitals lay with the rubbed legs.)))
        2. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 29 January 2017 18: 43
          +6
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Without any emoticons - they themselves stopped. Due to lack of strength to storm the city.
          Tanks, elite units, and attack aircraft were handed over to the Center group.
          The last frontier, which the Wehrmacht seriously delayed, was the Luga defensive line.
          All further attempts to detain the Germans with the help of divisions of the national militia, nadolbov, etc. were completely futile. The Germans had good aerial reconnaissance: all infantry positions, the lines of hedgehogs and nadolba simply bypassed.

          You have no conscience, or you know nothing?
          Or both?

          After the Luga border, the Germans rushed to Leningrad ... and sought, as they could ...
          But the main blows, as is often the case. there were flanking and rounds with deep spans ...
          so they reached Shlisselburg, closed the blockade ...
          On the other hand, we reached almost the Kirov plant and reached the Gulf of Finland. With a wide strip from the Zhdanov Plant to Old Peterhof, the Germans controlled the sea route from Leningrad to Kronshtadt ... And what about our landing in Petrodvorets ...
          On the other hand, the Finns tried as best they could to close the second ring through Lodeynoye Pole ... Fuck them ...
          And the battle for Tikhvin?

          And the Germans themselves stopped ...
          They just knew that they wouldn’t get into the forehead, either of the NKVD, nor of the sailors, nor of the soldiers, nor even grandfathers with children from the People’s Militia ...
          Why they thought they could get around and thus win, I was not destined to understand.
          Russian statehood has been unwavering for over 1200 years. Even in the most difficult trials, the Russian people had heroes that did not flee from their homeland, did not surrender to the enemy, and did not accept the situation.
          So it was and will be so forever and ever.
          By the way, only China has a similar story, and our northern neighbors are Swedes. I'm trying to understand who I forgot, it doesn’t work.
          But nobody needs Swedish land ...
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 29 January 2017 19: 08
            +1
            "so they reached Shlisselburg, closed the blockade ...
            On the other hand, they reached almost the Kirov factory,
            reached the Gulf of Finland. Wide strip from the factory
            Germans controlled Zhdanov's name before Old Peterhof
            sea ​​route from Leningrad to Kronstadt "////

            You have described everything correctly. We got there, we got here ... And? What's next?
            Did someone attack them? - no. September 3 advanced observers
            The Red Army was shocked to see that the Germans were digging along the entire line
            contact. This was not immediately believed in the headquarters.
            Not Leningrad, of course, the Nazis felt sorry, but they decided to storm Moscow. But there was no strength for either.
            1. Sergey S.
              Sergey S. 29 January 2017 22: 29
              +1
              Quote: voyaka uh
              We got there, we got here ... And? What's next?
              Did someone attack them? - no. September 3 advanced observers
              The Red Army was shocked to see that the Germans were digging along the entire line
              contact.

              That you saw a movie ...
              I explain.
              From this moment on, they didn’t perceive the people's militia.
              And Shlisselburg was taken on September 8 ...
              And Tikhvin?
              And the daily war on the Road of Life?
              And the second shock?
              The battle for Leningrad was grand in scope.
              One eye does not grab.
            2. Alexander Greene
              Alexander Greene 29 January 2017 23: 57
              +4
              Quote: voyaka uh
              We got there, we got here ... And? What's next?
              Did someone attack them? - no. September 3 advanced observers
              The Red Army was shocked to see that the Germans were digging in along the entire line of contact. This was not immediately believed in the headquarters.
              Not Leningrad, of course, the Nazis felt sorry, but they decided to storm Moscow. But there was no strength for either.


              And before that, the most difficult task that Voroshilov had accomplished was solved.
              He did not allow the Germans to defeat the troops of the North-Western direction. But Hitler considered their defeat a prerequisite for an attack on Moscow.

              To defeat the Soviet troops, led by K. Ye. Voroshilov, Army Group Sever could not, and not because he was withdrawing them too quickly, but because the troops under Voroshilov’s control fought stubbornly and skillfully. On July 15, near the village of Soltsy, under the blows of troops led by Voroshilov, German troops had to retreat to the city of Dno.

              It was Voroshilov who put an end to the Barbaross plan and forced Hitler to cancel his attack on Moscow in the summer and once again try to defeat the troops of the North-Western direction and again, unsuccessfully ...
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 30 January 2017 11: 32
                +3
                Here I agree with you. Red Army Northwest
                fought much more intelligently than in the center
                (beneficially lack of near Zhukov).
                There were no stupid frontal counterattacks leading to the boilers.
                The army skillfully fought in defense. Counterattacked when possible.
                Created defensive lines. Went away when the Wehrmacht began the environment.
                Voroshilov deserves praise.
                If so fought in the Center and in the South, the loss of the Soviet army would be
                at least two million less.
        3. Ham
          Ham 30 January 2017 09: 34
          +1
          even before Hitler’s order, the commander of the Army Group "North" reported on the inability to take Leningrad with the available forces. they were bled to an extreme degree ...
          that's why they transferred troops to Moscow because they realized that Leningrad couldn’t be taken ...
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 29 January 2017 18: 58
        +4
        Quote: Nagaibak
        And who stopped them hmm ... oh yes, General Winter?)))

        By the way, in the 41st near Moscow, German tanks rolled on the frozen ground on asphalt, and they did not care about the frost ......
    3. Glory1974
      Glory1974 29 January 2017 14: 41
      +2
      ALL tanks of Army Group North (by the way, their
      there was a little 50 with something pieces, light, almost all) were loaded onto platforms
      and sent to the center.


      In total, the North group had 635 tanks. So you want to say that in 2,5 of the month, 580 tanks were destroyed?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 January 2017 15: 42
        +2
        That's right. Or destroyed, or broken. The progress was swift
        there was no time to repair and patch. In the North group, most
        The tanks were initially light from 22.06. T-2, medium T-3 and Czechs. On the way, the Germans took several dozens of KV and many T-26s into trophies. Trophy T-26 remained, they were not taken to Moscow.
    4. Rarog
      Rarog 29 January 2017 14: 50
      +15
      Quote: voyaka uh
      ...


      I’m not even surprised by what was written.

      What kind of people are you (just a people, not an individual person, because according to the observations of the writings of all "yours", there is a persistent feeling that you are all, it is all that is full of hatred for all non-Jews, and especially Russians) , which needs to vulgarize, muck, slander and trample into the mud.

      So what is it that the Russian-Soviet People won the Great Patriotic War not because of their courage, stamina, intelligence, but "thanks to the" "stupidity" of the Germans and their leadership?
      What really did the Barbaros plan come up with not the same generals that walked the parade march across Europe? Those. there weren’t enough tanks for Moscow, not because our Warriors beat them in battles, but because the conquerors of continental Europe were stupid little people?
      It turns out that all European nations and the ubiquitous Jews were even dumber than the Germans, who allowed themselves to be captured without much effort, and in some cases even set up a "Holocaust"? Of course, if this is not another lie from the side of w ... in (and the number of w..ov who fought in the Wehrmacht ranks once again leads to such thoughts), who decided to grab more "gesheft" themselves ... well, their eternal greed and deceit satellites.
      How did you get with your bile and anger. Sometimes you think, but was it worth you to save such deceitful and ungrateful ?!
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 January 2017 15: 47
        +2
        "It turns out all the European nations and the ubiquitous Jews were even dumber than the Germans,
        that allowed themselves to be captured without much effort, and in some cases even
        arrange a "holocaust" ////

        Unfortunately, that is exactly so. Nazis, with their greatest assertiveness,
        outplayed everyone: smart, cunning, and brave. And the defeat of 22.06 - from the same series.
    5. 1rl141
      1rl141 29 January 2017 15: 25
      +7
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The Germans stopped Hitler's unequivocal order on September 3, 1941:
      "stop and go on the defensive."

      Well, yes, yes ... Everything is so ... And yet, in the spring of 1945, there was no “heroic” victory over the Germans. It’s just that A. Hitler committed suicide, having lost the meaning of life. He was apparently mortally ill, or he just had a depressive thing ... And G. Zhukov with his army had nothing to do with it.
      Where do you come from, the Jewish debunkers of "Soviet myths" about victory in that war?
    6. RUSS
      RUSS 29 January 2017 19: 09
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "No. The Germans were stopped by the Russian god of war - the heavy artillery of the forts,
      railway installations and ships "///

      The fact is that Shirokorad is one of the leading specialists in domestic artillery, so he sees exactly what artillery played an important role ....
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 January 2017 19: 29
        +3
        It was once interesting to read. About artillery.
        Which really was of high quality and played an important role.
        role in the Victory.
        But lately he ... recourse
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 29 January 2017 19: 41
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          But lately he ...

          Led fashion trend ....
    7. npzh
      npzh 30 January 2017 17: 47
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh

      The Germans stopped Hitler's unequivocal order on September 3, 1941:
      "stop and go on the defensive."


      The Germans went on the defensive on September 22-24. Somehow long the order reached them.

      Offensive operation began
      to Moscow, and there weren’t enough tanks anymore. ALL tanks of Army Group North (by the way, their
      there were a little 50 with something, light, almost all) were loaded onto platforms and sent to the center.


      The Germans were clearly brakes, they forgot 39 motorized corps near Leningrad - two armored divisions and a motorized one.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 31 January 2017 02: 50
        +1
        , "forgot the Leningrad 39 motorized corps - two tank divisions and a motorized" ////

        Not forgotten at all. The 39th building was near Leningrad for a short time - in August-September,
        and then attached to Army Group Center.
        1. npzh
          npzh 31 January 2017 09: 51
          +2
          The 39th corps remained part of the 16th army; it had 8 and 12 armored and 20 motorized infantry divisions.
          http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/
          Korps / XXXIXKorps.htm
          In October 1941, it was he who was advancing from Chudovo through Budogosh to Tikhvin.
          And by the way, the 4 TG divisions were the richest in tanks - 1, 6, 8 and 12 had about 550 combat-ready tanks on September 3.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 31 January 2017 12: 58
            +1
            Yes, you were right. I googled. The corps was involved in the North group
            at least until the end of 41 years. On the Volkhov Front.
  11. Kenneth
    Kenneth 29 January 2017 11: 44
    +5
    I read this book. Further, the author strenuously states that it is rare to crush the enemy and the total number of shots is not very large. The conclusion is that the Germans were stopped by people here. And the guns helped
  12. Vladislav 73
    Vladislav 73 29 January 2017 12: 07
    +12
    The read opus leads to strange thoughts. For some reason, analogies arise with history textbooks published under the patronage of the ever-memorable Soros Foundation, where the Battle of Stalingrad is given 3 lines, and the battle of El Alamein (such as a turning point in the war) has 3 pages! request Well, really! Let's see:
    "After the breaking of the blockade, the siege of Leningrad by enemy troops and the navy continued until September 1944."
    Do you understand anything? Yes, it’s not like a tenth grader, even a university graduate will not really understand
    Well, it depends on which graduate. If someone is more or less interested in this issue, he knows that there was a breakthrough of the blockade along Lake Ladoga when they broke through a narrow corridor (Operation Iskra, January 1943), but it took another year to completely lift the blockade. asking the question, the author himself did not even answer it approximately! But most of all he was struck by more than dismissive words about other tragic and heroic pages of our history:
    In the first months of World War II, German troops defeated parts of the Red Army in the Baltic states, Belarus and Ukraine, quickly captured the Crimea and ... stood rooted to the spot on the outskirts of Leningrad
    Cities even occupied by the Germans on the move, without long battles, such as Minsk and Kiev,
    These phrases generally cast doubt on the competence of the author. Or cunning. That is, there was no heroic defense of Sevastopol until the summer of 1942? The Kerch-Feodosia operation? They just stupidly captured Crimea. Like a walk! fool There was no Kiev battle in July-September 1941, the most tragic, largest cauldron? When the front commander, Colonel General Kirponos died. Just captured on the move. request Thanks to the way, the suspension of the attack on Moscow and the south turn of the 2nd tank group of Guderian, which was decided the fate of Kiev. But to call this tragedy, "taken on the move" .... request
    No. The Germans were stopped by the Russian god of war - the heavy artillery of forts, railway installations and ships.
    The Germans stopped everything. And artillery. And the heroism of the defenders of Leningrad. And the hardest attempts of the same Volkhov front to break the blockade of the 4 Sinyavinsky attacks, for example, and the tragedy of the 2nd shock army in one of these attacks. And the resumption of the attack on Moscow on 30.09.41 because of which, the main penetration force of the Germans, the 4th Göpner Panzer Group and part of the aircraft, were removed from Leningrad and many other factors. And the author reduced everything to artillery ...
    Good article. Like in the best works. And then I already thought that the author had a deep creative crisis - lately there have been many raw articles. And this one is at a high level. Respect!
    And for me, it’s a very one-sided article. And to call it so pathetic- "The secrets of the Leningrad blockade are revealed", well ... Artillery work? But this is not a secret behind 7 castles! And the rest of the secrets, somehow passed by the author ... request And do not say that they say there is nothing to criticize, take it and write it better! I don’t have a “gift of the pen” and therefore I don’t break into “writers”! But I know the story! And therefore it warps from such one-sided, biased and not entirely honest opuses!
  13. Andrey591
    Andrey591 29 January 2017 12: 47
    +4
    The construction of the pipeline and electric line was described in detail in the journal "Technique-Youth" for 1946 5-6.
    1. 97110
      97110 30 January 2017 12: 29
      0
      Quote: Andrey591
      The battle for Leningrad was grand in scope.

      Read. Thanks for the info.
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 29 January 2017 12: 51
    +3
    "In total, Leningrad defended 360 naval and coastal long-range guns of caliber
    from 406 to 100 mm. These our guns entered into a duel unprecedented in the history of artillery
    with about 250 heavy guns of the Germans. "////

    An unprecedented duel is the surest combination. Because she was not there. The Germans needed
    hollow Leningrad factories - and shot at them. And then they shot just a little
    through the main streets for intimidation. Therefore, they put their heavy guns out of reach
    Soviet. The second one. The Soviet guns had no adjustment, either ground or air.
    They shot on the map, roughly. The third. Large caliber shells ended very
    quickly, but new ones were not manufactured in Leningrad and were not brought from the mainland.
    Large ships Balt. the fleets were all, without exception, or half-sunk in Kronstadt or
    immobilized. They shot at the Peterhof area defended by a company of German reservists
    (sitting in the bunkers), and then they didn’t get it.
    1. Andy
      Andy 29 January 2017 13: 51
      +9
      I hope the fact that for the sake of their own skin, Jews would happily shove the same Jews in the crematorium’s furnace, will you not dispute?
    2. Andy
      Andy 29 January 2017 13: 58
      +13
      the only myth widespread is the Holocaust. why the Soviet people considered all the dead as people, and you are only Jews.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 29 January 2017 19: 01
        +1
        Quote: Andy
        the only myth widespread is the Holocaust.

        Most professional historians describe Holocaust denial as unscientific and propaganda activities. They point out that deniers ignore scientific research methods and often profess anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi views
        1. Andy
          Andy 29 January 2017 20: 18
          +10
          better to be anti-Semite than to save Judas. So the Serbs rescued the little girl Madeline Albright, who thanked them in 1999 with a bombardment. I repeat that the Holocaust-MYTH. killed all in a row, Slavs, gypsies, Jews. so why did the suffering of the Jews stand out separately, how does their election differ from the Aryan fascism? the same approach of the "higher" race
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 29 January 2017 14: 28
      +10
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And then they shot just a little
      through the main streets for intimidation

      “Little by little, for intimidation”, Hezbollah is shooting at the territory of Israel ... Yes, when he flies into several consecutive houses on the same street regularly, as in order, this is so-so, for intimidation. To this day, in the center of St. Petersburg, walking along a street or an alley, you can find many "sudden public squares" between the houses ... And this was not the demolition of emergency housing. And of those houses that still stand today, some simply should not have existed now, because, in all cases, it was easier to shower and forget. But they were restored by the townspeople, and by no means in the form of remodels ... Well, and returning to the commented phrase about “intimidation” - Lermontovsky Prospect shot through from the south along the entire length, and it didn’t fly to the Synagogue (during the blockade) only by chance, either the high dome served as a guide. And there were enough objects in the district.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 January 2017 15: 27
        +5
        "To this day, in the center of St. Petersburg, walking along the street or lane, you can meet many
        "sudden public gardens" between the houses "////

        I know. My father showed them to me and talked about shelling. Art. shelling began
        strictly by the hour and strictly by the hour ended. Checked the clock for these shellings.
        A dozen shells were fired per day. But where - every time there was a surprise. But never
        They didn’t concentrate fire on any particular building. They shot at the area.
        (except factories - they beat him there). Fallen buildings, by the way, are usually the result of bombing,
        not art. If the anti-aircraft gunners managed to drive the bombers from some plant, then those
        on the way back they dumped them in a bundle or ribbon anywhere. They were more afraid of bombs than shells. But all this was nothing compared to hunger and cold sad .
    4. Glory1974
      Glory1974 29 January 2017 15: 25
      +6
      They shot at the Peterhof area defended by a company of German reservists
      (sitting in the bunkers), and then they didn’t get


      On a section from Koporskaya Bay to Old Peterhof — about 60-65 km long and 20-25 km inland — four German infantry divisions surrounded west of Leningrad (more precisely, pushed to the sea) the 8-th Soviet army (seven rifle divisions and two brigades of the marine corps, as well as units of coastal artillery).
      During the 1941-1943 years, troops located on the Oranienbaum bridgehead distracted from Leningrad to 50 thousands of soldiers and officers of the German army.

      The Soviet guns had no adjustment, either ground or air.
      They shot on the map, roughly.


      The experience of the first months of the struggle for Leningrad required a large-scale deployment of artillery reconnaissance in coastal artillery and a sharp increase in its level. In 1941, to conduct artillery reconnaissance and adjust coastal and naval artillery fire, a network of general naval observation and correction posts was deployed, which were subordinate to the chief of artillery of the fleet. All posts were connected with his command post. Adjustment of firing was carried out by general naval posts through the command post of the chief of artillery of the fleet.
      In all coastal artillery divisions, the post of assistant chief of staff for intelligence was introduced. This made it possible to link artillery reconnaissance in coastal artillery with the field artillery intelligence service.
      The information received from the observation posts was updated by aerial photography. For each battery detected, a special passport was entered in which its activity was recorded.
      By the middle of 1942, the art of shooting artillery coastal batteries reached such a level that fire to suppress enemy batteries opened a minute after the discovery of the first flash of enemy guns.
      So, in the journal of hostilities of the enemy 768-th heavy artillery division, it is written: “14.04.42, the activity of Russian artillery increased significantly. Our firing batteries are immediately bombarded by the opposing side. On 22 of September, the following was recorded: “Until the afternoon, the division fired at the observation balloon with four shots. After the second shot, retaliatory fire at the position of the second battery followed. Two direct hits exploded 71 grenade and 46 shells. The rotary mechanism of the third gun was damaged, five people were lightly and seriously injured. ”

      The Germans needed
      hollow Leningrad factories - and shot at them. And then they shot just a little
      through the main streets for intimidation.

      As soon as shells began to burst on the streets of Leningrad, according to the common signal "Dragonfly" or "Thunder", all the heavy artillery of the Leningrad Front, coastal batteries and ships fell into warehouses, railway stations, headquarters, communication centers, and enemy forces. In such cases, enemy artillery was forced to transfer fire to our batteries and thereby weaken or completely cease shelling the city. A significant improvement in the organization of counter-battery control contributed to the reduction of shelling in Leningrad. If by June 1942 the enemy monthly fired thousands of shells in the city of 3 – 6, in July they fired 2010, in August 712, in September 926, and in October 1486 shells, about the same in November and December. During 1942, the enemy used up 40 thousand shells in Leningrad. 2 / 3 of them were fired at the firing positions of our batteries
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 29 January 2017 15: 42
        +5
        Quote: glory1974
        If by June 1942 the enemy monthly fired 3-6 thousand rounds around the city, then in July it fired 2010,

        Yes, and the shots from the movie "Blockade" are by no means a fantasy: Major Danvits visits a friend, an artilleryman, at positions in the Krasnoye Selo region. He demonstrates to him the operation of his battery, but after two shots he asks to hurry to the bunker, motivating him with the fact that “their naval artillery” will begin to answer.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 January 2017 16: 05
        +3
        "Thunder" all the heavy artillery of the Leningrad Front, coastal batteries and
        ships crashed into warehouses, railway stations, headquarters, communication centers,
        concentration of enemy’s manpower "////

        All this sounds beautiful, but very far from what it really was.
        Unfortunately, the command of the Leningrad and Volkhov fronts skill
        and fantasy did not shine. Undoubtedly, the heroism of soldiers, officers, workers, residents was,
        but from a purely military point of view, the defense of Leningrad is not a model of military skill.
    5. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 29 January 2017 22: 50
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Therefore, they put their heavy guns out of reach
      Soviet. The second one. The Soviet guns had no adjustment, either ground or air.
      They shot on the map, roughly. The third. Large caliber shells ended very
      quickly, but new ones were not manufactured in Leningrad and were not brought from the mainland.
      Large ships Balt. the fleets were all, without exception, or half-sunk in Kronstadt or
      immobilized. They shot at the Peterhof area defended by a company of German reservists
      (sitting in the bunkers), and then they didn’t get it.

      Frank nonsense.
      I was supposed to hear this from a little bit ...
      I do not see the point of refuting.
      But for youth I will say the following.
      Marine guns of coastal batteries and ships were farthest from any German siege gun.
      Young hydrographs, unfortunately did not write down their names, and how did they find out, they had to make shooting tables in the controlled waters ...
      It was before the war, there was plenty of time ...
      Work completed. And one of them delshe says, let's calculate the table of firing at coastal targets. They didn’t think, but they got down to business. And when an enormous amount of work had already been done, they thought, realized that they were playing too much, and were frightened - what did they expect shooting at Soviet targets. The results were hidden.
      And when the fascist horde approached Leningrad, these calculations greatly facilitated the shooting of fascist targets.
      Including for this reason, our artillerymen won the counter-battery fight outright.

      About the shells.
      There were no reserves in Leningrad ...
      But they were in Kronstadt, and enough for the whole war.
      And for the battle for Moscow, shells and anti-aircraft guns were taken out from Leningrad ...
      Stunned how all the ships can be drowned in one sentence ...
      The "October Revolution" was not sunk ...
      In general, the ships mainly stood in Leningrad.
      Moreover, “Maxim Gorky” with the new Poiseau put the air curtain so that it generally flew around ...
      And the RUS-2 station in Bolshoi Izhora spotted fascist aircraft even beyond Siversky.

      It was especially impressive how a company of German reservists was sitting in bunkers in Peterhof under the fire of all the Baltic Fleet ships ...
      My grandfather fought in Leningrad.
      My father-in-law fought in Leningrad.
      In my family, women have a medal for the defense of Leningrad.

      How tired of overt rudeness in relation to our history.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 30 January 2017 14: 03
        +1
        "But for youth I’ll say the following.
        Marine guns of coastal batteries and ships were long-range "////

        I will also put in the word "for youth." Sea guns are not howitzers.
        They are not intended for firing at remote land targets.
        And they are designed for flat firing at enemy ships.
        And, most importantly, armor-piercing shells. Those. destroy
        The Germans could only deliver a battery of Germans by a direct hit. What without
        adjustments by observers when shooting on a map is impossible, unless by accident.
        Therefore, damage to German batteries to cause ships with all the burning desire
        sailors (in which I believe) - could not.
        1. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 31 January 2017 21: 40
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Sea guns are not howitzers.
          They are not intended for firing at remote land targets.
          And they are designed for flat firing at enemy ships.
          And, most importantly, armor-piercing shells. Those. destroy
          The Germans could only deliver a battery of Germans by a direct hit. What without
          adjustments by observers when shooting on a map is impossible, unless by accident.
          Therefore, damage to German batteries to cause ships with all the burning desire
          sailors (in which I believe) - could not.

          You apparently have a poor understanding of what naval combat is after the Japanese war ...
          Why did the sea guns have elevation angles?
          According to the laws of physics, the angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection ... An analogy is true in the absence of air resistance.
          In reality, with a long range of fire, artillery shells literally fall at angles of up to 45 degrees or more ...

          Either shells pierced two armored decks ... or hit and pierced the roof of the gun turret ...
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          About the armor-piercing shells you talk like a tanker.
          Since the time of the Japanese War, high-explosive shells have been used, which under certain conditions, due to the pain of the masses of explosives, cause great destruction and almost certainly cause fires.

          Summary.
          It was the naval guns that had the opportunity to fulfill the role of precision weapons in World War II.
          Regarding intelligence, you are also wrong.
          There was intelligence intelligence, military, aviation, optical ...
          And there was a sighting ... which was used for different shooting.
          And there were gunners. who skillfully counted the firing ...
  15. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 29 January 2017 12: 54
    +1
    I recommend Shirokorada to even leaf through Vladimir Beshanov's “Leningrad Massacre”.
    http://e-libra.ru/read/236633-leningradskaya-bojn
    ya.-strashnaya-pravda-o-blokade.html
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 29 January 2017 15: 04
      +5
      sxfRipper there are still such as Rezun (Suvorov), Solzhenitsyn, only Beshanov will be thinner! one field of berries! lol
    2. Glory1974
      Glory1974 29 January 2017 15: 33
      +3
      Soviet commanders in the 30 years were brought to meritorious obedience and uniformity, brought up in boundless devotion to the cause of Lenin - Stalin, but possessed only one tactical technique - to infuse the enemy with blood of the Red Army to the very nostrils.


      Are you seriously referring to this "historian"?
  16. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 29 January 2017 17: 10
    +3
    Leningrad salute. In the center of SU-85 with the inscription "Fighter" (1495 glanders).
  17. RUSS
    RUSS 29 January 2017 19: 16
    +1
    The author of the article, Alexander Shirokorad, is a supporter of the Bolsheviks, Stalin and other “red” topics, so his articles are biased,
    PS I recommend to start with his teeth at least to insert, otherwise you sometimes see him on TV and think, “what kind of bruise is this?” He still looks homeless .....
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 29 January 2017 22: 58
      +1
      Quote: RUSS
      The author of the article, Alexander Shirokorad, is a supporter of the Bolsheviks, Stalin and other “red” topics, so his articles are biased,

      Wrong.
      I testify that Shirokorad has talked so much anti-Soviet that his sins will clearly not be allowed into the bright communist future.
    2. Stas57
      Stas57 30 January 2017 08: 43
      +2
      The author of the article, Alexander Shirokorad, is a supporter of the Bolsheviks, Stalin and other “red” topics, so his articles are biased,

      but what's the difference of what he is a supporter, if he carries a blizzard, and if it was a blizzard in honor of the belief in an asudaryampirator, can this be accepted?
      what naivety.
  18. D-Master
    D-Master 29 January 2017 21: 43
    +4
    On the shelves there are several books of Shirokorad. I read the author with pleasure and trust him. The article is excellent and written on the case .. IMHO of course. I fully support the author that the holiday - the day of lifting the blockade should be celebrated nationwide. What would the descendants remember, know and be proud of .... At the paternal side, the grandmother himself went through the whole blockade. How she survived with two children. God alone knows. She’s been gone for a long time. But I remember when I asked to tell how it was, I just waved it off. I asked you not to rave ... The blockade is the greatest feat of the people ... which must be remembered and honored.
  19. CooL_SnipeR
    CooL_SnipeR 30 January 2017 04: 06
    +1
    Regarding the stop of the Germans ... it seems like here or somewhere else I heard that Gitrel ordered that the honor of the troops be assigned to army groups center and south, because Moscow and Caucasian oil were a priority. And the north did not have forces to storm.
  20. Fitter65
    Fitter65 30 January 2017 15: 06
    0
    Just surrender to the enemy in the charter of the Red Army was not provided.

    Please tell me in the charter of which army of that time was surrender to the enemy provided?
    In September 1941, there were more submarines in Leningrad than in the whole Kriegsmarine.

    At the beginning of the Patriotic War in Kriegsmarine, there were 146 submarines of various classes and series. In the RKKF (Navy of the USSR) in all the fleets of the Pacific, Baltic, Black Sea, as well as the created Northern was 218.
    It was not for nothing that Churchill prayed tearfully for Stalin if the Germans captured Leningrad to blow up ships.

    If it’s not hard to discard the footnote where you can read this document. Or he scribbled such tearful SMS messages on a mobile phone.
    There were more heavy guns at the forts of Leningrad, at the NIMAP (training ground on Rzhevka) and in parts of the Leningrad front than on all our other fronts and in the rear.

    So yes, a 406-mm gun, it seems to be the only one in the whole country.
    And now a few words about what the authorities and residents did before the blockade. Why before the start of the war, hundreds of thousands of dependents (unemployed women, children, retirees) did not go on vacation from the city? Didn’t they read the Soviet press?

    And in which newspaper it was written that in connection with the anticipated war, it was urgent to go east to the sanatorium. What date was the famous TASS statement that Germany strictly observes the non-attack treaty?
    The principal difference between the Germans and the Finns is that the Germans killed and sent commissars, communists, partisans, etc. to concentration camps. And the Finns did it only because the person was an ethnic Russian.

    Well then yes, just to discharge, etc. Well, there you can bring in the same Russians, and another 154 reasons why the Germans could send to concentration camps or kill a man. By the way, not only Germans and Finns stood near Leningrad, there were enough of the Wehrmacht and Finnish troops and other Europeans ...
    The headline is just like on TV3 “The mystery is revealed ...” It seems like there are a lot of figures and other confirmed historical facts. But somehow didn’t understand what the author wanted to say in this article? It seems that he writes the right words, but they don’t add up.
  21. nnz226
    nnz226 1 February 2017 13: 05
    +2
    It’s just interesting that at the beginning of the blockade (late September – November), the artillery of the front lacked shells and the shelling by the Germans was almost unpunished. There is an episode of such shelling in the movie "Blockade", when Zhdanov, driving along the street, sees the result of the shell getting into the tram. And then from the command center he calls the gunners demanding to crush the German batteries, and hears in response that the limit of shells has been exhausted. I think it is unlikely that such an "anti-Soviet" would have been missed on the screen in the days of the USSR and the CPSU, if this had not been a harsh truth. Then in 1942, and especially in 1943, the Germans otvetka flew almost instantly. Moreover, the commander Govorov was a great gunner ...
  22. Fagelov
    Fagelov 4 February 2017 16: 19
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    And about artillery. The Germans, not fools at all, by the way, made their positions OUTSIDE
    artillery forts and ships.

    Interesting "conclusion". But how did German shells reach Leningrad and Soviet positions? Or do Fritz guns have heavy duty?
  23. nnz226
    nnz226 1 May 2017 14: 21
    0
    Yes, in the charters of the Red Army there was no concept of surrender, but our troops surrendered! From hopelessness, because of the betrayal of the commanders, but they gave up! Hero city of Sevastopol: July 1942, the command dumped in the Caucasus and about 70000 soldiers, sailors, commanders were without ammunition pressed to the sea near Cape Khersones. Thousands died, but thousands were forced to surrender. They are not guilty of this, the commander of the Black Sea Fleet "atmiral" Oktyabrsky, himself flew out of the city, but did not bother to evacuate defenders seasoned in battle. So they were captured. And in September 1941, near Kiev, the entire South-Western Front was surrounded, for the sake of politics. And where the fighters and front commanders were captured, those who did not die while trying to break out of the encirclement ...
  24. Military Builder
    Military Builder 17 July 2017 11: 42
    +2
    I would not say so that long-range naval artillery was a decisive factor in the fact that Leningrad did not surrender, but it is also not worth belittling its importance, as well as the actions of all parts of the spacecraft. Everyone did their work to the best of their abilities and capabilities, and it was just the totality of the actions of all the military branches and defense factories that we did what we had - 900 days of the blockade and the unconquered city