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In the US, began the production of a pistol with a built-in silencer.

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On the armory SilencerCo unveiled the final Maxim 2017 pistol at the SHOT Show 9 in Las Vegas and announced the start of mass production.




According to the resource ammoland.com, weapons are designed for the civilian market.

As stated by the manufacturers, Maxim 9 is "the world's first serial pistol with an integrated silencer, not created by order of the security forces." It is noted that during the development of the pistol, the Company changed several platforms, incl. Beretta 92, Smith & Wesson, Glock 17, etc.

The creators jokingly call their offspring "silencer with a built-in pistol."

The gun will be sold in gun stores in April of this year. The stated retail price for Maxim 9 is $ 1500.



According to the report, the length of the gun is 10,75 inches (27,3 cm), and the weapon can be shortened to 24 cm by removing two removable silencer modules. The loudness of the shot in the “long” version will be from 136 to 138 dB, in the “shortened” version it will be around 139 dB. Gun caliber - 9х19 mm, weight - 1,1 kg.
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  1. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 22 January 2017 10: 51
    +40
    With a silencer for civilians it's cool belay
    The victims of the next frantic shooter learn that they are killed only when the shooter runs out of ammunition.
    1. AUL
      AUL 22 January 2017 11: 06
      +25
      Indeed, the purpose of this device is completely incomprehensible. Or do gangsters make specials?
      1. Evdokim
        Evdokim 22 January 2017 11: 38
        +8
        I don’t think that the company, for the love of weapons, brought this gun into the world, to see there is a decent demand on the American market for this, there are few cranks who think of themselves as Bond, Larami Croft, and some other super-duper agents of the CIA, FBI, KGB, this is for them. Demand creates supply, capitalism. hi
        1. The black
          The black 22 January 2017 13: 59
          +4
          What little things, we would immediately start selling volley fire systems to citizens wassat
          1. svd-xnumx
            svd-xnumx 22 January 2017 18: 27
            0
            What little things, we would immediately start selling volley fire systems to citizens
            And to equip cars with rams and braids on wheels
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 22 January 2017 19: 56
            0
            The most democratic pistol.

            Voters recall their deputies using the silencer built into the gun.

            Civilian use of weapons, confirmation does not require. And the price is not big.

            Why not do good for the development of society.
        2. Visitor
          Visitor 25 January 2017 12: 46
          0
          Is it really about demand? What if it comes to mass love for guillotines, do they need to be put into mass production and allowed to be used? The barrel with a silencer, by definition, is intended either for special services or for killers (who still cares about the quiet operation of fire? Although the clang of the shutter can not be got anywhere). And to the masses ?! Civil weapons are weapons of self-defense, aren't they? The shot, including its sound, is intended, among other things, to draw attention to the fact of the attack, which reflects the shooter. With a glushak it is practically impossible. What is the deep meaning of making thousands or tens of thousands of people possess such weapons?
      2. Shurik70
        Shurik70 22 January 2017 11: 41
        +14
        Quote: AUL
        Indeed, the purpose of this device is completely incomprehensible. Or do gangsters make specials?

        Not good for gangsters, too loud.
        That's what neighbors would not sue when you shoot cans in your yard - enough.
        1. Asadullah
          Asadullah 22 January 2017 14: 08
          +6
          That's what neighbors would not sue when you shoot cans in your yard - enough.


          Serve. 138 dtsb, this is a pain threshold. Here, many apparently seen enough movies about hired killers. I have never seen PBS shooting anyway deaf. Only special cartridge. PBS is needed to prevent you from being heard at a certain distance, say three kilometers. Even a small thing, shoots through a disposable rubber band like a cotton bag.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 22 January 2017 15: 18
            +10
            Quote: Asadullah
            138 dtsb, this is a pain threshold


            That's it. Explicit error. The sound of the silencer cannot exceed the roar of a jet engine.
            German AWC silencer on ASP9 pistol gives 33dB sound.
            That is, in quote
            136 to 138 dB
            obviously the first idiot, for some laughter, drew an idiot.
            And other sites copy it "without looking"
            soldier
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 22 January 2017 18: 19
          0
          Another video on the gun itself and about the company ...
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 22 January 2017 11: 17
      +5
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      The victims of the next frantic shooter learn that they are killed only when the shooter runs out of ammunition.

      Victims don’t recognize anything winked they are victims ...
      1. Liberoid-
        Liberoid- 22 January 2017 11: 51
        +3
        Negroes will start to shoot ... Everything in the United States goes to this!
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 22 January 2017 18: 59
          +1
          Quote: Liberoid
          Negroes will start to shoot ... Everything in the United States goes to this!

          Quite the opposite! Negroes themselves have long been at the limit of patience. According to statistics, at least one black man is killed only by policemen!
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 22 January 2017 20: 24
        0
        Bayonet.

        And the witnesses will smoothly pass into the victims.
      3. Visitor
        Visitor 25 January 2017 12: 48
        0
        Victims are not only killed, but also wounded.
    3. Mwg
      Mwg 22 January 2017 12: 15
      +3
      Not when the pictures on Facebook will post)))
    4. mealnik2005
      mealnik2005 22 January 2017 12: 51
      +5
      The victims of the next frantic shooter learn that they are killed only when the shooter runs out of ammunition.

      The volume of the shot for the "long" version will be from 136 to 138 dB, for the "shortened" - about 139 dB.

      They recognize much earlier. High noise levels (60 dB) cause complaints, at 90 dB the hearing organs begin to degrade, 110 - 120 dB are considered a pain threshold, and noise levels above 130 dB are a destructive limit for the hearing organ.
    5. tihiy
      tihiy 22 January 2017 14: 38
      +2
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      With a silencer for civilians it's cool belay
      The victims of the next frantic shooter learn that they are killed only when the shooter runs out of ammunition.

      Quote: AUL
      Indeed, the purpose of this device is completely incomprehensible. Or do gangsters make specials?


      The state is criminal. And weapons for the quiet
    6. Juborg
      Juborg 22 January 2017 15: 20
      +1
      Weapons for psychopaths, killers, created! URA-A-A !!! For them to bite their own leg, the usual thing. To them, migrants and non-traditional people decided little to bring diversity to a boring life.
    7. Thompson
      Thompson 22 January 2017 16: 20
      +1
      They won’t even have time to do this.
    8. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 22 January 2017 17: 03
      +1
      There, for the purchase of silencers and any jammed weapons, a special license is needed ... they won’t give anyone anyway! if a simple trunk in most stores can be bought by rights, then this one only with a license ...
    9. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 29 January 2017 00: 29
      0
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      With a silencer for civilians it's cool belay

      In my opinion, a normal solution. They do not position it silently (from 136 to 139 dB), but it will not ride on the ears like classic pistols. For fans in the shooting range to shoot or at different targets, that's it.
  2. victorsh
    victorsh 22 January 2017 10: 51
    +9
    A simple question, but WHY for a civilian pistol with a glacier?
    1. WKS
      WKS 22 January 2017 11: 00
      +12
      Quote: victorsh
      A simple question, but WHY for a civilian pistol with a glacier?

      Just for that. Only 138 dB it is still very loud to open your mouth, otherwise the membranes burst. The authors of the note messed up something. A take-off aircraft generates 140 dB.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 January 2017 14: 53
        +3
        Maybe 13,8 dB - otherwise the volume of the shot is like a machine gun.
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 22 January 2017 11: 02
      +2
      So as not to disturb the neighbors ...
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 22 January 2017 11: 21
      +6
      Quote: victorsh
      A simple question, but WHY for a civilian pistol with a glacier?

      They have such a thing as “unreasonable noise” or “unreasonable noise”. This is a noise that is clearly audible from another apartment or premises during the secure hours from 22 to 7.
      - first violation: an uncontested fine of $ 300
      - second violation: $ 400
      - subsequent violations: criminal! responsibility and 500 dollars
      For legal entities, such fines double.
      In the UK, amateurs can make noise generally hard, fines reach up to 5000 pounds.
      wink
      1. De laert
        De laert 22 January 2017 14: 32
        0
        We would have it! And then the neighbors "beloved" are activated by the night ... it seems that they are putting on shoes with wooden soles, take bowling balls and start hitting strikes with the whole family :)
        1. 16112014nk
          16112014nk 22 January 2017 16: 03
          0
          Quote: De Laert
          take bowling balls and start striking the whole family with strikes

          If neighbors begin to roll balls, and this is especially evident in the evenings and in summer, then in this way violations in technology appear during the construction of a house. All construction specialists know about it. When the building cools down after a hot summer day, then "the neighbors from the upper floor start rolling balls."
    4. Mwg
      Mwg 22 January 2017 12: 16
      0
      That would not violate environmental safety by decibels)))
  3. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 22 January 2017 10: 52
    +7
    Is this so that the police do not hear the shots? Or in the USA care about the silence of the street?
    1. martin-159
      martin-159 22 January 2017 11: 09
      +5
      Jackhammer - 120 dB.
      1. fa2998
        fa2998 22 January 2017 12: 10
        +7
        Yes, something is messed up in the article! And about the purpose of two removable modules, the sound decreases by 1 dB. The value is ridiculous. No. hi
  4. martin-159
    martin-159 22 January 2017 10: 55
    +2
    Unless in a dash to shoot without headphones.
  5. Skubudu
    Skubudu 22 January 2017 10: 59
    +1
    Silencerco - a company producing not bad silencers including with quick detachment for muzzle devices, DTK, barrel with a muffler thread for pistols.
    It is a quality product, but not TOP.
  6. martin-159
    martin-159 22 January 2017 11: 03
    +3
    The cartridge is supersonic, the cotton will still be quite loud.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 22 January 2017 12: 36
      +2
      Quote: martin-159
      The cartridge is supersonic, the cotton will still be quite loud.

      Maxim 9 is 10,75 inches (27,3 cm) long, and the gun can be shortened to 24 cm by removing two removable modules from the silencer. For the “long” version, the volume of the shot will be from 136 to 138 dB, for a shortened pistol - 139 dB, but only if subsonic cartridges are used. The mass of the weapon is 1,1 kg, caliber - 9 × 19 mm.
      It is based on the Smith & Wesson M&P CORE; works with shops and sights for GLOCK.
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 22 January 2017 15: 17
      0
      The cartridge is supersonic, the cotton will still be quite loud.

      Not louder than this:
  7. novobranets
    novobranets 22 January 2017 11: 09
    +5
    What ugly things. With the use of stealth technology, why sho?
    The volume of the shot for the "long" version will be from 136 to 138 dB, for the "shortened" - about 139 dB.
    Wow, deafness is provided after the fired clip.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 22 January 2017 12: 41
      +2
      Quote: novobranets
      Wow, deafness is provided after the fired clip.

      What a strange silencer ... smile
      120 dB - Almost unbearably jackhammer (1m)
      125 dB - Almost unbearable
      130 dB - Pain threshold aircraft at the start
      135 dB - Concussion
      140 dB - Shell shock sound of a jet taking off
  8. Barakuda
    Barakuda 22 January 2017 11: 09
    +8
    According to the resource ammoland.com, weapons are designed for the civilian market.


    According to manufacturers, Maxim 9 is “the world's first mass-produced pistol with an integrated silencer, created not by order of law enforcement agencies”


    Cool pistol for 1500 tanks, for civilian security forces wink

    And here is 1983, the USSR. PSS is called. One problem is the ammo. And completely without Glushak (he doesn’t need him) he gets into his pocket. In Afghanistan, the specialists were satisfied.

    Caliber: 7,62 × 42 SP-4
    Weapon length: 170 mm
    Barrel length: 71 mm
    Weapon height: 140 mm
    Weapon Width: 26 mm
    Empty weight: 700 g. (Empty)
    Store capacity: 6 cartridges
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 22 January 2017 11: 21
      +5
      In addition, we also had a pistol with a built-in PB silencer. Therefore, about the "first in the world" they hurried
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 22 January 2017 13: 01
        +2
        Quote: rotmistr60
        In addition, we also had a pistol with a built-in PB silencer. Therefore, about the "first in the world" they hurried

        At the PB, the silencer was not quite built-in and consisted of two parts ..
        Noiseless PB pistol (GRAU 6P9 Index) ball was developed on the basis of the Makarov Pistol by A.A. Deryagin, and adopted for service in 1967. PB is designed for use in environments requiring soundless and flameless firing.
        The sound of the shot is reduced by a two-section silencer: an expansion chamber with a mesh metal roll is absorbed directly on the barrel, which absorbs the temperature of the powder gases. The camera is fixed on the front process of the frame, powder gases are discharged from it through openings located along the bottom of the rifling. A removable nozzle is attached to the front of the chamber in a cracked way. A separator is placed inside the nozzle body, including several washers installed at different angles of inclination to the axis of the barrel channel. Washers crush the gas stream and swirl it. The bullet passes freely into the holes of the washers. The speed of the bullet was reduced to 290 m / s (i.e., to subsonic), which allowed the use of a muffler of a simple design.
        1. The brightest
          The brightest 22 January 2017 15: 23
          +2
          Quote: Bayonet
          At the PB, the silencer was not quite built-in and consisted of two parts ..

          But is it different?
          .According to the message, the length of the gun is 10,75 inches (27,3 cm), while the weapon can be shortened to 24 cm by removing two removable silencer modules
      2. Niccola Mack
        Niccola Mack 22 January 2017 16: 14
        +4
        Therefore, about the "first in the world" they hurried

        Apparently, the Chinese were the pioneers in the development and adoption of fixed silencers - type "64" and type "67" pistols. Interestingly, the pistols have an automatic shutdown mode (manual reloading), which eliminates the clanking of moving parts.
      3. luka
        luka 22 January 2017 16: 45
        +3
        the world's first serial pistol with an integrated silencer, not commissioned by law enforcement agencies
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 22 January 2017 11: 26
      +3
      Quote: Barracuda
      And here is 1983, the USSR. PSS is called. And completely without Glushak (he doesn’t need him) he gets into his pocket.

      In FIG, because the cartridge is special!
  9. sabakina
    sabakina 22 January 2017 11: 22
    +4
    Question on Mail.ru
    What is the noise level when firing a PM pistol (in dB) and with what can it be compared?

    The best answer:
    120 dB like a jet

    My question is, "What does the built-in silencer do in the Maxim-9?"
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 22 January 2017 11: 41
      +4
      Quote: sabakina
      My question is, "What does the built-in silencer do in the Maxim-9?"

      “Barrymore, what’s squishy in my boot?” “Oatmeal, sir.” “What is she doing there?” - Squishy, ​​sir.
    2. db1967
      db1967 22 January 2017 13: 45
      +7
      Most likely - he expects that another journalist will write about him laughing
      By video - very similar to 36-39db - If you remove the unit, it seems quite real.
  10. kolkulon
    kolkulon 22 January 2017 11: 27
    +2
    Skirmishes and killings will be silent so as not to disturb neighbors.
  11. pts-m
    pts-m 22 January 2017 11: 31
    +2
    This gun is one hundred percent suitable for Mrs. Clinton’s supporters to bring her life to naught. Because all the ideals of personal life are “trampled” —not to you LGBT people or to the other pleasures of life that mean ... proud distribution of democracy to those countries where it not...
  12. loha
    loha 22 January 2017 11: 31
    +3
    it’s just for a more comfortable shooting at a shooting range because 138 dB is louder than a motorcycle roar, but much quieter than a regular shotgun.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 22 January 2017 11: 49
      +4
      Quote: loha
      it’s just for a more comfortable shooting at a shooting range because 138 dB is louder than a motorcycle roar, but much quieter than a regular shotgun.

      Maybe it is better to use PM with its 120 dB to protect hearing? By the way, who knows the noise level of the revolver system "Nagant"?
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 22 January 2017 12: 16
        +2
        In my personal ear, (no numbers) is about the same. That PM, that "Nagant".
        And about "Nagant" history has been made. Without practice, and without cocking, fuck where you get to. Effort is necessary in order to "pull" the cartridge into the barrel. Very "heavy" revolver when firing.
        And when disassembling - a paradox. If you mix the parts and cogs of 2 revolvers, none of them really can be assembled. Somehow, by the nature of my service, I had a chance to deal with them. Maybe the wrong "Nagans" came across to me. request
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 22 January 2017 13: 31
          +1
          Sorry, but which one did you shoot from? From the one with a manual platoon for soldiers, or with auto platoon, for amphitheaters?
      2. Fat
        Fat 22 January 2017 19: 37
        +1
        Quote: sabakina
        Quote: loha
        it’s just for a more comfortable shooting at a shooting range because 138 dB is louder than a motorcycle roar, but much quieter than a regular shotgun.

        Maybe it is better to use PM with its 120 dB to protect hearing? By the way, who knows the noise level of the revolver system "Nagant"?

        In the shooting range it is better to shoot from the "Margolin", it turns out a little louder than pneumatics ... So-so, but quite comfortable ...
  13. Ham
    Ham 22 January 2017 11: 36
    +11
    Immortal "Dunno on the Moon" is immediately remembered:
    "" "- Please, gentlemen! How can I serve? Our store has
    the richest choice of cold steel and firearms. I can offer the latest
    model of a large-caliber rifle with an optical sight of the latter
    advanced sample. The accuracy of the battle is amazing. On the
    at a distance of one hundred and forty steps it will fall into the fly without a miss.
    Turning back, he removed a smooth, polished shotgun from the stand.
    a wooden butt and a dull blue-black metallic gleam
    the trunk. Putting his cheek on the butt, he flicked the trigger and continued:
    - If you prefer a quick-fire rifle, I can offer
    another sample.
    Removing another rifle from the stand, he gently stroked it with his hand
    butt and said:
    - Very nice little thing. Shoots without reloading. Cartridge cases
    emitted automatically under the pressure of the spent powder gases.
    Charging is done through a clip for thirty-six rounds.
    Suitable for shooting with hands, but has a device for shooting with
    stop. There are also samples of silent guns. From pistols I can offer
    seven-shot long-range pistol of the "Bourbon" system, twelve shots
    Typhoon: One pull of the trigger releases all twelve rounds;
    miniature small-caliber "Topsik": fits freely in a vest
    pocket; large-caliber Benz: fires explosive bullets, exceptional
    hit accuracy. I advise you to take, you will not regret.
    “But we don’t want to shoot anyone!” - muttered Dunno,
    scared by such an abundance of deadly guns.
    - Yeah, I understand! - exclaimed the seller. - I can in this case
    offer a couple of wonderful brushes or brass knuckles, but especially
    I recommend a nylon fiber noose.
    Bending down, he pulled out from under the counter a black cord tied in the form
    intricate loop with two tails on the sides.
    - Sneaking up behind and throwing a noose around your neck, you tighten the ends so
    to strangle your victim slightly, then bind her hands free
    the ends of the cord. Look here.
    The seller immediately threw a loop around Dunno around his neck, deftly missed two
    free end under the armpits and tied his hands behind his back. Same operation he
    I did with Kozlik.
    - Feeling? - said the seller. - You can't move your hands,
    since at the slightest move you are in, a noose crashes into your throat. Is not it?
    “So,” Dunno croaked, feeling that he was about to suffocate.
    - So that the victim could not call someone for help, there are for sale
    advanced gags.
    The seller took out two round rubber gags from the box. I put one in
    Dunno's mouth, the other - Goat.
    - Feeling? he continued. - You can't spit out a gag
    and you cannot say a word.
    Unable to utter a word, Dunno and Kozlik only mumbled and
    dutifully nodded their heads.
    “The way, as you see, is very humane,” said the seller. - not depriving
    your life sacrifice, you can rob it without any interference, and you only
    that's right, right?
    Noticing that Dunno and Kozlik negatively shook their heads, the seller
    asked:
    - What do you need in this case? Maybe you want to go to
    service to the police? I can offer advanced electric batons,
    steel bars to pacify strikers, handcuffs, shackles,
    tear bombs. There are also helmets, uniforms, flashlights, masks ... "" "
    1. tihiy
      tihiy 22 January 2017 14: 46
      +1
      Quote: Ham
      Immortal "Dunno on the Moon" is immediately remembered:
      "" "- Please, gentlemen! How can I serve? Our store has
      the richest choice of cold steel and firearms. I can offer the latest
      model of a large-caliber rifle with an optical sight of the latter
      advanced sample. The accuracy of the battle is amazing. On the
      at a distance of one hundred and forty steps it will fall into the fly without a miss.
      Turning back, he removed a smooth, polished shotgun from the stand.
      a wooden butt and a dull blue-black metallic gleam
      the trunk. Putting his cheek on the butt, he flicked the trigger and continued:
      - If you prefer a quick-fire rifle, I can offer
      another sample.
      Removing another rifle from the stand, he gently stroked it with his hand
      butt and said:
      - Very nice little thing. Shoots without reloading. Cartridge cases
      emitted automatically under the pressure of the spent powder gases.
      Charging is done through a clip for thirty-six rounds.
      Suitable for shooting with hands, but has a device for shooting with
      emphasis. Silent rifle samples are also available. Of the pistols I can offer
      seven-shot long-range pistol of the "Bourbon" system, twelve shots
      Typhoon: One pull of the trigger releases all twelve rounds;
      miniature small-caliber "Topsik": fits freely in a vest
      pocket; large-caliber Benz: fires explosive bullets, exceptional
      hit accuracy. I advise you to take, you will not regret.
      “But we don’t want to shoot anyone!” - muttered Dunno,
      scared by such an abundance of deadly guns.
      - Yeah, I understand! - exclaimed the seller. - I can in this case
      offer a couple of wonderful brushes or brass knuckles, but especially
      I recommend a nylon fiber noose.
      Bending down, he pulled out from under the counter a black cord tied in the form
      intricate loop with two tails on the sides.
      - Sneaking up behind and throwing a noose around your neck, you tighten the ends so
      to strangle your victim slightly, then bind her hands free
      the ends of the cord. Look here.
      The seller immediately threw a loop around Dunno around his neck, deftly missed two
      free end under the armpits and tied his hands behind his back. Same operation he
      I did with Kozlik.
      - Feeling? - said the seller. - You can't move your hands,
      since at the slightest move you are in, a noose crashes into your throat. Is not it?
      “So,” Dunno croaked, feeling that he was about to suffocate.
      - So that the victim could not call someone for help, there are for sale
      advanced gags.
      The seller took out two round rubber gags from the box. I put one in
      Dunno's mouth, the other - Goat.
      - Feeling? he continued. - You can't spit out a gag
      and you cannot say a word.
      Unable to utter a word, Dunno and Kozlik only mumbled and
      dutifully nodded their heads.
      “The way, as you see, is very humane,” said the seller. - not depriving
      your life sacrifice, you can rob it without any interference, and you only
      that's right, right?
      Noticing that Dunno and Kozlik negatively shook their heads, the seller
      asked:
      - What do you need in this case? Maybe you want to go to
      service to the police? I can offer advanced electric batons,
      steel bars to pacify strikers, handcuffs, shackles,
      tear bombs. There are also helmets, uniforms, flashlights, masks ... "" "


      Are you a fairy tale lover?
      1. Ham
        Ham 22 January 2017 15: 27
        +9
        Well, in Soviet childhood, I read of course ... but about fairy tales ...
        take a look around ... we have the very society that is described there - with barges, hunger strikers, hacks, farthing, an overnight stay
        mi and the Big Bedlam ...
        Russia's only difference is that we have not yet traded weapons in the West
        I advise everyone to read this "fairy tale" and remember - "the fairy tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it! Good fellows a lesson";)
        and in general, is this passage like a fairy tale?
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 22 January 2017 17: 26
          +4
          For me, this is one of the best books of childhood, and recently re-read it. This is not a fairy tale. This is a gold fund, along with the works of Ilf and Petrov, books which are now more relevant than ever. Read to everyone!
          1. Visitor
            Visitor 25 January 2017 12: 55
            0
            You Zoshchenko undeservedly forgot.
  14. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 22 January 2017 11: 48
    0
    And this will not affect the alignment of the gun? In my opinion, the center of gravity is shifted forward, so you need to shoot a gun under you, besides, the recoil from him will obviously be large precisely because of the shift of the center of gravity forward.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 22 January 2017 15: 22
      0
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      In my opinion, his center of gravity is shifted forward

      Well, not as much as this smile
  15. HMR333
    HMR333 22 January 2017 12: 09
    +3
    a piece of shit with a breed on the muffler! why the heck civil muffler ??? this would be what they fell! throw so much money for development when there is a ready silencer! so I also laugh the short version is noise at 138 and the long one is 139 dB and the pillow drowns out more)))) circus! another money fraud allegedly an innovation!
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 January 2017 12: 14
    0
    Here, the silencer's resource is still important, and so a very specific contingent such as the FBI or the CIA can be replaced with regular weapons. It’s useless to shoot into the air ...
  17. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 22 January 2017 12: 24
    +1
    Quote: victorsh
    A simple question, but WHY for a civilian pistol with a glacier?

    And I have a SIMPLE question for you: "A why generally need a gun that rumbles so that you can go deafstanding next to each other. "Maybe immediately add a device to it that would tell you when and where all the shots were fired? Then, for sure, no one will buy these pistols.
    Add - a gun, any, always a murder weapon, even in the case of self-defense.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 22 January 2017 12: 41
      +2
      With Chinese chopsticks (they are no longer riveted from bamboo) or with a fork, you can easily gouge out your eyes, put your neck in your neck, and any wrestler can curl his neck in two counts. Whoever wants to kill will kill, is there a silencer or not.
      It is necessary to educate children in the right direction, if of course it’s normal itself ... But the State should participate in this, and not as always the Motherland, when the rooster pecks.
  18. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 22 January 2017 12: 38
    +2
    Quote: kolkulon
    Skirmishes and killings will be silent so as not to disturb neighbors.

    You read a little about it, and then worry about your neighbors. 130 db is the noise level of the jet at the start, 140 db is the sound of the jet taking off.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 22 January 2017 13: 02
      +1
      You know (gag), the first year I grew up under a tank training ground, then under the buzz of the 95s Tu, then Migi overhead at school every single day. Further Antonovtsy circled in the classroom, accompanied by Su and Migov. And somehow not deaf.
      So the numbers - decibels can be shoved ... you know where. Well, or continue to compare how the PKK gives in the ear compared to Pecheneg.
  19. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 22 January 2017 12: 47
    +4
    To all readers! If you think that 130 db (the noise level of a jet plane at the start), and 140 db (the sound of a jet plane taking off) is noiseless, I want to convince you - this is a threshold level of noise, exceeding which leads to hearing injury. Either the author was mistaken in numbers, or you have no idea what to write about.
    1. vvnab
      vvnab 22 January 2017 15: 10
      +3
      Yes, how much can you write about the author’s mistake! Is it really that hard to check !?
      https://silencerco.com/maxim/
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 22 January 2017 15: 31
      +2
      Quote: Алексей_К
      If you think that 130 dB (the noise level of a jet plane at the start), and 140 dB (the sound of a jet plane taking off) is noiseless, then I want to convince you - this is a threshold noise level, exceeding which leads to hearing injury

      All this is true, but the duration of sound exposure should also be taken into account. The shot takes place in a very short period of time (0,001-0 s), and the plane takes off a little longer, agree? smile
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 January 2017 12: 53
    +1
    The most dangerous device. Generated, of course, by the love of Americans for weapons and the same love of "shooting at banks", and the ears are not official. So a pistol with a built-in (integrated) silencer appears. Well, the fact that with such a "toy" they can "mow" ten times more people, and neighbors, for example, will not call the police, and in the next class will not run out the windows. Just a weapon for terrorists. Maybe they still have "Vintorez" to establish mass production?
    Immediately with sniper sights? Why trifle. wassat
    1. mr.redpartizan
      mr.redpartizan 22 January 2017 16: 23
      +2
      In many states, silencer can be purchased freely. A good removable silencer is in no way inferior to an integrated silencer, except that it has a long length.
    2. Visitor
      Visitor 25 January 2017 12: 58
      0
      How did this market miss Rosoboronexport, where it was possible to get a bunch of our PSS?
  21. Sobol
    Sobol 22 January 2017 13: 10
    +1
    And the stealth technology pistols began to stir up ?!
  22. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 22 January 2017 13: 18
    0
    Quote: sabakina
    Question on Mail.ru
    What is the noise level when firing a PM pistol (in dB) and with what can it be compared?

    The best answer:
    120 dB like a jet

    My question is, "What does the built-in silencer do in the Maxim-9?"

    amplifies the sound and directs it towards the target?
  23. SCHNIFER
    SCHNIFER 22 January 2017 14: 19
    0
    The subsonic cartridge has known disadvantages
  24. adma
    adma 22 January 2017 14: 45
    +1
    And I did not understand. With a silencer from 136 to 139 dB. This is very loud.
    130 dB - pain threshold - the plane at the start
    140 dB - shell shock - take-off of a jet aircraft.
  25. spirit
    spirit 22 January 2017 15: 03
    0
    That's right! Riots started in the USA, Mr. LAW will be released soon, there will be a grenade instead of a silencer laughing laughing laughing
  26. sergo1914
    sergo1914 22 January 2017 16: 38
    +1
    Maxim? We are waiting for further modernization with water-cooled barrel and power using tarpaulin tape.
    And the visor. A shield is necessary .... Damn, I forgot about the machine with wheels. Well this is the next step.
  27. mr.redpartizan
    mr.redpartizan 22 January 2017 16: 55
    +2
    For the military, such a weapon is meaningless - the length without a silencer is simply huge. Other silent guns are much more compact and powerful, like the Mk.23 .45ACP caliber. The bullet of the .45ACP cartridge has a subsonic initial velocity, and its energy exceeds 500 J, which means that no holes are required along the bottom of the grooves in the barrel bore.
    I think the best option is a weapon under a silent cartridge, for example a PSS pistol. Its size and low weight do not interfere with the fighter, and the bullet made of hard alloy has good armor penetration.
    The verdict is that the Americans have released another toy for the civilian market, which will undoubtedly find a buyer. The appearance of the weapon is pretty good.
  28. The brightest
    The brightest 22 January 2017 17: 28
    0
    Glock with a silencer, well?
  29. romandostalo
    romandostalo 22 January 2017 17: 56
    0
    Damn seen enough of Star Wars, and that's released such crap. Hefty ugly fool ...
  30. Navy7981
    Navy7981 22 January 2017 18: 09
    0
    The purpose and purpose is really not clear. Probably, if someone would shoot back from the robbers at night, he would not wake up the neighbors.
    1. Visitor
      Visitor 25 January 2017 13: 01
      0
      And that is logical. What if they (i.e., neighbors) sue for violation of silence during forbidden times? You won’t ask from the killed robbers anymore, but from a living neighbor.
  31. Galleon
    Galleon 22 January 2017 18: 54
    +2
    Quote: Asadullah
    138 dtsb, this is a pain threshold
    That's it. Explicit error. The sound of the silencer cannot exceed the roar of a jet engine.
    German AWC silencer on ASP9 pistol gives 33dB sound.
    That is, in quote
    from 136 to 138 dB the first unit is clearly for laughing some idiot painted.
    And other sites copy it "without looking"

    The most adequate comment.
    1. vvnab
      vvnab 22 January 2017 21: 50
      0
      Yes, here at the manufacturer everything is written on the site. Why fantasize?
      https://silencerco.com/maxim/
  32. Fat
    Fat 22 January 2017 19: 50
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Here, the silencer's resource is still important, and so a very specific contingent such as the FBI or the CIA can be replaced with regular weapons. It’s useless to shoot into the air ...

    And how many FBI and CIA shoot a year? And such services are only useful to defeat, the main thing is to remove the fuse from the fuse and cock the bolt that has ears and hears, and the rights at arrest are read only to oneself so as not to disturb black passers-by ...
  33. vvnab
    vvnab 22 January 2017 21: 48
    0
    Quote: Shurik70
    Quote: Asadullah
    138 dtsb, this is a pain threshold



    That's it. Explicit error. The sound of the silencer cannot exceed the roar of a jet engine.
    German AWC silencer on ASP9 pistol gives 33dB sound.
    That is, in quote
    136 to 138 dB
    obviously the first idiot, for some laughter, drew an idiot.
    And other sites copy it "without looking"
    soldier


    Well, yes, the manufacturers wrote, and the rest copy without looking ...)))
    https://silencerco.com/maxim/
  34. Gunther
    Gunther 22 January 2017 22: 05
    0
    Quote: Author
    The volume of the shot for the "long" version will be from 136 to 138 dB, for the "shortened" - about 139 dB.

    ))))))
    You will have to purchase headphones for such a "muffler with a pistol", otherwise you will go deaf in the shooting range:
    120 dB SPL - corresponds to the pain threshold - thunder, jackhammer, chainsaw, inner ear injury is possible at 140dB
  35. Denimax
    Denimax 22 January 2017 23: 47
    +1
    They seem to have a ban on silencers in civilian weapons. It’s strange somehow.
  36. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 23 January 2017 00: 03
    0
    loudly - 136 dB. This is not a silencer, but an amplifier. Probably a noise weapon?