Pyongyang claims the likelihood of a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula

DPRK Deputy Representative to the United Nations, Kim Ying Ryong, speaking at the UN, made a statement in which he declared that a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula could begin virtually at any time. According to the North Korean diplomat, this is not a threat, this is an appeal to the whole world with a request to pay attention to what is happening on the peninsula.

Kim Ying Ryun (quote TASS):

Extremely intense tension reigns on the Korean Peninsula, and no one knows when a nuclear war will break out because of the maneuvers conducted by the United States and its followers to strangle the DPRK with unprecedented political, military and economic isolation and pressure. It turns out that the US is not enough to redeploy various strategic nuclear forces to the Korean peninsula, including nuclear bombers and submarines.

North Korean diplomat adds:

The United States is ready to conduct provocative exercises near the borders of the DPRK.

In the current situation, as Kim In Ryong notes, the official Pyongyang simply has no choice but to follow the path of development of its nuclear forces.

Recall that Pyongyang some time ago conducted a nuclear test weaponsthat caused a storm of indignation in Seoul, Tokyo and Washington. During the tests, the DPRK received another batch of sanctions from the United States and censure from the UN Security Council. According to Kim Ying Ren, sanctions and anti-North Korean resolutions are not the way out. And in this regard, you can not argue with him.

Comments

[Banishing liberoids]

The peoples of the Koreas are pitifully divided, and brainwave them.

[Iskander Sh]

Divide and rule. Initially, they were divided due to a dispute between the two superpowers, but now they’re just probably afraid to combine them. Korea is a sleeping dragon, unite in one state and the Koreans in Asia will wind their tails.

[Orel]

DPRK Deputy Permanent Representative to the United Nations Kim Ying Rong, speaking at the UN, made a statement saying that a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula could begin at almost any time.

Nobody would object to "democratization" for sure. Even China has already got these upstarts (China voted for the toughest resolution against the DPRK). Although it would be better if the regime itself collapsed - no one wants to fight them. There is a lot of screeching, but little wool.

[Stas157]

Quote: Orel

Nobody would object to "democratization" for sure. Even China got these upstarts

What is it they got you?)) Share! Koreans, what, they want to capture someone ?? Or are they bringing democracy to the world? Are they threatening someone? Ah, China is not surprising to get it. China has no friends (except Russia) in neighboring territories at all. Enemies alone!

[cniza]

A complex knot is tied there and the United States is happy about it, their "project" is working and brings the results they need.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: cniza

A complex knot is tied there and the United States is happy about it, their "project" is working and brings the results they need.

I agree, Vitya! For mattresses, the higher the tension anywhere in the world (except for Matrasia, of course) - the better.

[Orel]

Quote: Stas157

What is it they got you?)) Share! Koreans, what, they want to capture someone ?? Or are they bringing democracy to the world? Are they threatening someone?

The fact that they behave inappropriately and at times resemble crazy people. China has always patronized the DPRK, but even now they shy away from them. This already says a lot. In particular, about the inadequacy of Kim. If you can sleep peacefully in such a situation with a cherry on the cake in the form of nuclear weapons from Kim, then you have good nerves, and I am scared for the future. What good will he decide to shoot or his military. And they can shoot in Russia. Or are you so sure that this will not happen?

[Stas157]

Quote: Orel

The fact that they behave inappropriately and at times resemble crazy people.

Is that all? All your accusations against Pyongyang? The main thing is that they do not threaten anyone!

Quote: Orel

I'm scary for the future. What good will he decide to shoot or his military. And they can shoot in Russia. Or are you so sure that this will not happen?

And what have they already shot at? Or do you just have phobias? Panic attacks!
Russia, there are other, much more serious threats! Korea is not even here in the row, even in last place. One must be wary of those countries that seize foreign territories. Bombing the world! Sanctions announce! No need to go far! This is the most civilized! USA, yes EU! Well, their pawns, Turkey, but Israel,

[drunkram]

Oga, Pakistan is definitely enemy # 1

[210ox]

Do you want to break up the regime in North Korea? Well, do not mind. But in fact, this is their internal affair, as they should live like that .. We also lived in a one-party system and communist ideology .. If you did not find that time- then you are out of luck ..

Quote: Orel

DPRK Deputy Permanent Representative to the United Nations Kim Ying Rong, speaking at the UN, made a statement saying that a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula could begin at almost any time.

Nobody would object to "democratization" for sure. Even China has already got these upstarts (China voted for the toughest resolution against the DPRK). Although it would be better if the regime itself collapsed - no one wants to fight them. There is a lot of screeching, but little wool.

[Orel]

Quote: 210ox

Do you want to break up the regime in North Korea? Well, do not mind. But in fact, this is their internal affair, as they should live like that .. We also lived in a one-party system and communist ideology.

No problem. Let them live, but why violate the treaty and UN resolution on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons? It only bothers. They quietly floundered there in their swamp for 50 years, until they decided to acquire nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

[vlad66]

Quote: Orel

They quietly floundered there in their swamp for 50 years, until they decided to acquire nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

Exactly, until your beloved Amerts began to press them with sanctions and isolation, they themselves would figure out who with whom, northern and southern or vice versa, there is no American chicken and you need to put your long beak here, hegemons.

[0255]

Quote: 210ox

Do you want to break the regime in North Korea? Well, do not mind. But in fact, this is their internal affair, as they should live like that ..

Are you sure that they live well in the DPRK? If so, why are the North Koreans fleeing to South Korea, while no one in their right mind goes to North? After all, even Kim fans with VO in the DPRK can not be driven.

Quote: 210ox

We also lived in a one-party system and communist ideology ..

... and then joyfully greeted Gorbachev and Yeltsin in the hope of healing in the West ...

[WKS]

North Korea is primarily a duped (almost 100%) people. Education is needed, but the mode has blocked all channels. And it can go on for a very long time. nuclear war is the end of the regime, they will threaten and scare, but they will never use it.

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Only the PRC is one of the main allies of the DPRK.

[Reserve officer]

In the photo - SAM missile defense system S-200VE. My officer youth. And the article is about nuclear weapons.
Again the photo is not it? Or to journalists that this 5B28 SAM with accelerators, that the ballistic carrier - doesn’t matter?

[alexmach]

They will not cheat anyone, just as they were pawns in the game of superpowers, they remain so.

[HAM]

Now this method is being tested in Ukraine! [

quote = The exorcist of liberoids] The peoples of the Koreas are sorry-divided, and brainwave them. [/ quote]

[Finches]

The DPRK cannot but be respected for its steady commitment to ideals and resistance to the hegemon of world evil - the United States, but realistically - it was sewn in the American-Japanese-South Korean ass — it becomes a big problem in the Far Eastern region in its militaristic rhetoric about a nuclear apocalypse in a single country!

[svp67]

Quote: Finches

DPRK cannot be ignored for its steady commitment to ideals and resistance to the hegemon of world evil - the USA,

You know, I look at the photos of their leadership and ordinary people and somehow I start to think that if their leadership was possible, it would LONGER be under the United States ... but apparently only the proximity of the "senior comrade" in the person of China keeps them from this .. ...

[Finches]

In principle, they, the leadership, have everything - tremendous power and the benefits of civilization, so there isn’t much reason to go under the Americans, in this case they will lose this very power and bring the wrath of the Great Juche ...

[svp67]

Quote: Finches

in this case they will lose this very power

Apparently IT keeps them ...

[alexmach]

It is believed that they are only expressing what their patron cannot say directly. It's like Zhirinovsky. Simply and rudely expresses what the others think, but do not speak out loud - he can, he is a famous "clown"

[Finches]

In any case, I think the sphincters of the inhabitants of the southern half of the peninsula have narrowed a little from such a statement ...

[alexmach]

Well, it’s always the same. Pans are fighting - foreheads are slacking at the slaves.

[Mik1701]

How can those who try to threaten their neighbor with a nuclear strike be respected? This is a clinic.

[siberalt]

Small penis, yes painfully lustful. The same Americans gave the DPRK money, so long as they did not play with matches. No, again for his own. They isolated themselves and even received sanctions from Russia. Whom are they going to bomb? In the same place, the wind will drag all the radiation to them and all the neighbors will get it.

[0255]

Quote: siberalt

Whom are they going to bomb? There, with the wind, all the radiation will be dragged to them and all neighbors will get it.

I argued with Kim fans on this topic more than once - they are not against the radioactive contamination of the Far East

[rasputin17]

The United States is ready to conduct provocative exercises near the borders of the DPRK.

But in fact, he's right! The DPRK can act as an indicative model of exicition for China and all those who disagree in this region!

[svp67]

Quote: rasputin17

But in fact, he's right! The DPRK can act as an indicative model of exicition for China and all those who disagree in this region!

It is possible to speak of ANY execution if everyone perfectly understands that China is behind the DPRK ... Any war with the DPRK, a priori the war with China. Who will do this now?

[rasputin17]

And they will not do anything with their own hands! Everything is as usual! China will be pressed economically and politically, not without the help of its satellites, and an old conflict between the two Koreas could flare up on the Korean peninsula.

[svp67]

Quote: rasputin17

China will be pressed economically and politically, not without the help of its satellites, and an old conflict between the two Koreas could flare up on the Korean peninsula.

Maybe it can, but the trouble is that one, that the other side is bound by allied commitments, respectively, the war between the two Koreas immediately becomes a war between China and the United States. I don’t think that anyone will do it now ...

[rasputin17]

I don’t think that anyone will do it now ...

The state debt can make you do the most insane, they understand and realize everything that it is impossible to pay it, but there is a chance to write off.

[Kryvbas]

China itself is tired of the hell out of Juche regime, what is the profit from them? They only spoil commerce. They already vote for sanctions at the UN.

[svp67]

Quote: Krivbass

There is already in the UN vote for sanctions.

He can vote for anything, but the DPRK will not give offense. This is actually their only shield against the United States from that direction ....

[commbatant]

He can vote for anything, but the DPRK will not give offense. This is actually their only shield against the United States from that direction ....

What does not prevent the PLA from holding large formations on the border with the DPRK, or do you think these are protective measures against a possible flow of refugees in the event of a war between the North and the South?

[svp67]

Quote: commbatant

or do you think these are protective measures against a possible flow of refugees in the event of a war between the North and the South

I think that this is a ready-made "Expeditionary Force of Chinese People's Volunteers"
What was already in that war

[Kryvbas]

I remembered the grandmother as a wench :))) There is nothing more for China to do. Now is not the time of Mao and "Chinese communism". From communism there is only one name left.

[Kryvbas]

Never. The United States is China's largest trading partner. Non-Maoist times. The trade wars are a completely different opera. Today, the DPRK is only a burden to China. A type of insane relative.

[Uncle Murzik]

Krivbass the same thing I can say about Israel

[Stas157]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

Krivbass the same thing I can say about Israel

Korea is Mother Teresa compared to Israel! Koreans, at least, do not bombard and seize adjacent territories from sovereign states, as Israel does!

[Kryvbas]

And what exactly has Israel “captured?” And who exactly is he threatening with a nuclear club?

[Kryvbas]

Sorri - Golan ..

[Stas157]

Quote: Krivbass

And what exactly has Israel “captured?” And who exactly is he threatening with a nuclear club?

So the whole territory on which Israel is located, annexed it! Not yet threatened with a nuclear club, but they regularly bomb Syria and Palestine!
Russia returned the Kuril Islands as its own, originally Russian, territories! And Koenigsberg ... so we saved the Jews from the brown plague! Grandma forgot it already?

[teder]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Krivbass

And what exactly has Israel “captured?” And who exactly is he threatening with a nuclear club?

So the whole territory on which Israel is located, annexed it! Not yet threatened with a nuclear club, but they regularly bomb Syria and Palestine!
Russia returned the Kuril Islands as its own, originally Russian, territories! And Koenigsberg ... so we saved the Jews from the brown plague! Grandma forgot it already?

so he rules the world

[Kryvbas]

Yes, you would have to learn a little more history. Well, for example, about how Israel was created, by what UN decision, who and how voted, who started the war against Israel, and also what if we talk about "primordiality", then Israel as a state already existed 3000 years ago, so it will be more searching. And as for Syria - you tell Assad to stop sending Iranian "parcels" to Hezbollons, and no one will touch him. Well, about "we saved" - it was not "we" that saved, but all the peoples of the USSR, and the Jews there were no less in relation to the total number of the people. All men were called up exactly the same as the rest. You ask at your leisure the number of Jewish Heroes of the Soviet Union. Well, at least to expand horizons.

[Stas157]

Quote: Krivbass

Yes, you would have to learn a little more history. Well, for example, about how Israel was created

So I wrote!))) ANNEXED, that is, captured the Palestinian territories by force of arms! Not? Wasn't it? Israel did not have its own territory. Well, perhaps only in legends, such ancient ones, about which they say: "It was a long time ago and not true!"

Quote: Krivbass

Israel as a state already existed 3000 years ago

What are you!)) Who told you that? And in the Mesozoic era, the Cretaceous, by chance, Israel did not exist ??)) Then even people did not live! Well, there’s definitely no grandmother yet!
Funny people! What they will not come up with in their defense!

Quote: Krivbass

You will take an interest in leisure time by the number of Jews - Heroes of the Soviet Union.

Yes, I generally like the Jews !!! Smart people! Only not those who bomb and money-grubbing are engaged. And such as Yevgeny Primakov, Perelman, Wasserman, Einstein, Lightman, Raikin, Satanovsky, Jacob Kedmi and many, many others!

[Uncle Murzik]

Krivbass, this is how Israel pushed Arabs out of their lands !!!!! it looks like fascism! Such is the brief history of the tragedy of April 8-9, 1948 in Deir Yassin.
In historical science, several key points arise, around which disputes are being held regarding those, of course, sad events.
Firstly, it is a question of the number of victims among the village population.
Irish diplomat, historian and journalist Connor O'Brien writes in his work "The Siege" that "during the attack on the Arab village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, Etzel's fighters, led by Menachem Begin (who later became the Prime Minister of Israel (1977- 1983). - RS), killed 250 villagers, including women and children "(9). Chaim Herzog, who was himself a career in the Israel Defense Forces and a military historian (he was also the president of Israel (1983-1993), is inclined to believe that "more than two hundred peasants were killed during the fighting" (10). The Israeli "left") publicist Israel Shamir claims that "245 Palestinians, men, women and children, were killed in Deir Yassin" (11).

[Kryvbas]

Murzik, have you considered how many times you post this nonsense from Izi Shamir? If hunting, I can tell you a lot of interesting things about this rotten stuff and his lies, as well as why he was so offended by Israel. By the way, he dumped to Sweden a long time ago and from there By the way, he escaped, by the way, not at all for political reasons, but after being caught in banal financial scams, which he took up after this "great journalist and writer" turned out to be no one here, and now he hates the damned Sionyugs with fierce hatred and calls himself "Orthodox Palestinians" :))) In general, a rare guano chelovek.For completeness of the picture - the declared will pass. Yes, for the general development, ask - who fully agreed with the UN decision, and who started the 1948 war.

[Uncle Murzik]

nonsense again! On the night of April 8-9, 1948, Deir Yassin was attacked. A detachment of 130 people (70 Ezel fighters under the command of Mordecai Kaufman and 30 Lehi members led by Ben Zion Cohen) attacked from two directions: from the southeast (from Beit Hackerem) and the northeast (from Givat Shaul). A van was sent ahead, which had a megaphone through which Jews turned to residents with a request to leave the village on the specified route and lay down their arms. Further events developed as follows (and it is here that the problematic of the historiography of this event begins, since different authors have a very different description of it).
Alexander Shulman writes that in response to the broadcast of the loudspeaker in Arabic, "the Arabs responded with fire, and the armored vehicle with the loudspeaker was knocked out" (4). However, other authors are inclined to believe that the van simply collapsed into a roadside ditch (most likely from poor control of the car; let's not forget that the operation was carried out at night, albeit closer to dawn) and from there transmitted messages to the villagers. "It is unclear whether each of the villagers heard these broadcasts, but to make sure that the Arabs began to leave their homes, Etzel's detachment shot in the direction of the village, but here the Jews met with stiff resistance" (5), - writes Israeli "leftist" historian Benny Morris ... Then it was decided to start the assault. “During the battle, and especially at the end of it, the attackers mercilessly killed all the inhabitants who came across their arm, with the exception of a few women and children who were sent to Jerusalem by truck ... The people of Irgun (Ezel) and Lehi did not prepare this action in advance , but, having met fierce resistance and suffering great losses, gripped by hatred of Arabs, they fell into mass hysteria "(6), admits the Israeli biographer of Ben-Gurion Michael Bar-Zohar, describing that tragic night. The Jews had to fight inside the village itself, take every house, of course, using grenades for their own safety when taking a house, which were thrown into the building.

[Moore]

Quote: Krivbass

Gorlan? Taketo By the results of the war. According to such results, Russia "captured" Konigsberg and the Kuril Islands.

Oh, how interesting!
Golans are still handed over to the God-chosen people in accordance with international standards, just as Koenigsberg was handed over to the USSR in accordance with the Potsdam agreement?

[Moore]

Quote: Krivbass

And Crimea was handed over to the God-bearing people in accordance with what international norms? The "referendum" from the point of view of the UN is absolutely illegal.

1. I did not start talking about Kaliningrad with the Kuril Islands - you shouldn’t leave the topic, we are not in Odessa and not in Haifa.
2. At least the referendum on Crimea was - bad, good - a matter of taste. What about God's chosen ones with at least some legal justification for squeezing the Golan away from the Syrians, except for rituals in the style of "this is the ancient land of our people"?

[Stas157]

Quote: Krivbass

And Crimea was handed over to the God-bearing people in accordance with what international norms? The "referendum" from the UN point of view is absolutely illegal. Did you want to sneeze at the UN resolution on Crimea? And we sneezed at the resolution on the Golan.

I have already indicated that in cases between the Crimea and the Golan there is a significant difference. In the first case, Russia returned its Russian land back, in a peaceful way. And, in the second, Israel captured, with the ARMED way, ALIEN the land that had never belonged to Israel.
By the same logic, our liberals, Hitler are equated with Stalin!

[Kryvbas]

I’ll tell you a big secret (for you) - the Golan belonged to Israel at least 2000 years ago. And what year was the Crimea conquered? Or have Russians always lived there? Well, and again - from the point of view of the UN - this is the annexation of Crimea and nothing else. So we are in an equal position in the eyes of the UN, no matter how unpleasant you are.

[Stas157]

Quote: Krivbass

I’ll tell you a big (for you) secret - the Golan belonged to Israel at least 2000 years ago. And in what year was the Crimea conquered?

Is it just like the ancient Ukrainians dug the Black Sea?)) Do you want to tell me the ancient Jewish folk tales? Ah, here the Arabs say different. Who to believe? Everything is in place with Crimea! Russia owned it from Catherine’s times until the collapse of the USSR, that is, until 1991. All this happened before our eyes, and not at some prehistoric times!

Quote: Krivbass

Yes, and about the "peaceful path" - what is it, Putin, it's scary to think, lied when, a year after the accession, he admitted that this whole operation was carefully planned, and it was carried out by none other than Russian troops?

And how many people died "in the battles during the capture of Crimea", since this was done by armed means? Tell me please! Why pull on an owl?

[Uncle Murzik]

The claims of the Jewish leaders against Palestine are based on long-dispelled myths, Old Testament legends about the "chosen people" to whom the "promised land" is destined. However, it was in this part that the Son of God, Jesus Christ, revised the Old Testament with His New Testament and deprived the Jews of their chosenness. [511]
Today, the Jewish myth of the "chosen people" and the "promised land" is refuted even by Jewish scholars. One of the most famous Jewish writers and scholars of the 800th century, A. Koestler, in his book The Thirteenth Knee, proves that today's Jews never lived in ancient Palestine, but are descendants of the Khazars who converted to Judaism in 82 years after the birth of Christ. Such Jews, according to him, account for 512% of world Jewry. Koestler believes that they have no right to claim the "promised land." The same conclusions came from another Jewish scholar, B. Friedman. He convincingly showed why the vast majority of modern Jews cannot be attributed to the "chosen people" of the Bible. Like Koestler, he came to the conclusion that present-day Jews come from the southern regions of Russia (the former Khazaria) and are not real Jews. [XNUMX]
The Jewish leaders even stole the name Israel from a people who, in the 10th century BC, refused to coexist with the Jewish tribe. Israel was then a strong and united country, uniting 513 tribes that were not Jews. The Jews were in this union a small settlement in the south. The Jewish Encyclopedia writes that "Joseph and Judah belong to different hereditary lines," adding that the Jews "in all likelihood were not an Israeli tribe." The British Encyclopedia notes that Judaism was formed much later than the Israelites merged with other peoples, that the relationship between these two peoples can be said that "the Israelites were not Jews." [XNUMX]
However, the Jewish leaders perfectly understood the groundlessness of their claims to Palestine. No wonder they, and especially the founder of Zionism, T. Herzl, were ready to choose any territory they proposed for the construction of the Jewish state. At different times it was Uganda, Argentina, Madagascar.

[Uncle Murzik]

The UN called to drive from the earth and destroy the peaceful Arab population? why did they have to adopt a UN resolution, and shares with the land with the aggressor who came to their land who staged the genocide of the local population

[Kryvbas]

Crackling propaganda and nothing more. To begin with, Israel did not drive anyone away, but on the contrary persuaded to stay where they were. It was the leaders of the Arab countries who did not listen to them and stayed to return after "throwing the Jews into the sea." and today it is almost one and a half million Israeli Arabs, have won and have absolutely all civil rights. Whoever listened to those Arab leaders - let them appeal to them. You, Murzik, read real history, not Soviet mossy propaganda.

[Kryvbas]

Oh, and by the way - do you have something against Stalin, who was one of the main supporters of the very UN decision that Israel completely agreed with and rejected by the Arabs and started the war? Besides, did the Czechs allow Israel to supply weapons? Wow, damn Stalin, patron of the Zionists :)))

[Uncle Murzik]

Krivbass, this is how Israel pushed Arabs out of their lands !!!!! it looks like genocide! Such is the brief history of the tragedy of April 8-9, 1948 in Deir Yassin.
In historical science, several key points arise, around which disputes are being held regarding those, of course, sad events.
Firstly, it is a question of the number of victims among the village population.
Irish diplomat, historian and journalist Connor O'Brien writes in his work "The Siege" that "during the attack on the Arab village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, Etzel's fighters, led by Menachem Begin (who later became the Prime Minister of Israel (1977- 1983). - RS), killed 250 villagers, including women and children "(9). Chaim Herzog, who was himself a career in the Israel Defense Forces and a military historian (he was also the president of Israel (1983-1993), is inclined to believe that "more than two hundred peasants were killed during the fighting" (10). The Israeli "left") publicist Israel Shamir claims that "245 Palestinians, men, women and children, were killed in Deir Yassin" (11).

[Kryvbas]

How many times did you post this nonsense, didn’t you count? Well, and again - present all claims to the leaders of the Arab countries, which, as you know, started this war.

[Uncle Murzik]

Krivbass that is, the Arabs destroyed themselves? you are already funny!

[Uncle Murzik]

The claims of the Jewish leaders against Palestine are based on long-dispelled myths, Old Testament legends about the "chosen people" to whom the "promised land" is destined. However, it was in this part that the Son of God, Jesus Christ, revised the Old Testament with His New Testament and deprived the Jews of their chosenness. [511]
Today, the Jewish myth of the "chosen people" and the "promised land" is refuted even by Jewish scholars. One of the most famous Jewish writers and scholars of the 800th century, A. Koestler, in his book The Thirteenth Knee, proves that today's Jews never lived in ancient Palestine, but are descendants of the Khazars who converted to Judaism in 82 years after the birth of Christ. Such Jews, according to him, account for 512% of world Jewry. Koestler believes that they have no right to claim the "promised land." The same conclusions came from another Jewish scholar, B. Friedman. He convincingly showed why the vast majority of modern Jews cannot be attributed to the "chosen people" of the Bible. Like Koestler, he came to the conclusion that present-day Jews come from the southern regions of Russia (the former Khazaria) and are not real Jews. [XNUMX]
The Jewish leaders even stole the name Israel from a people who, in the 10th century BC, refused to coexist with the Jewish tribe. Israel was then a strong and united country, uniting 513 tribes that were not Jews. The Jews were in this union a small settlement in the south. The Jewish Encyclopedia writes that "Joseph and Judah belong to different hereditary lines," adding that the Jews "in all likelihood were not an Israeli tribe." The British Encyclopedia notes that Judaism was formed much later than the Israelites merged with other peoples, that the relationship between these two peoples can be said that "the Israelites were not Jews." [XNUMX]
However, the Jewish leaders perfectly understood the groundlessness of their claims to Palestine. No wonder they, and especially the founder of Zionism, T. Herzl, were ready to choose any territory they proposed for the construction of the Jewish state. At different times it was Uganda, Argentina, Madagascar.

[Uncle Murzik]

November 29, 1947 by a majority of 2/3 of the vote (including the USSR and the United States), the UN General Assembly decided to revoke the mandate of England to govern Palestine. Its territory was divided into two independent states: Arab and Jewish. The Arab state was to receive land in 11,1 thousand square meters. km (42%), and Jewish - 14,1 thousand square meters. km (56%). The cities of Jerusalem and Bethlehem, together with the regions adjacent to them, stood out as a special administrative unit and received international status. The population of Palestine was strictly determined by ethnic composition, provided for 725 thousand Arabs and 10 thousand Jews in the Arab state, and 498 thousand Jews and 407 thousand Arabs in the Jewish state. In the international city of Jerusalem, the population consisted of 105 thousand Arabs and 100 thousand Jews. [522] The return of Arab refugees expelled by the Jews from their homes was also envisaged.
The Jewish leaders decided to act on a clear-cut basis, crudely amending the UN decision. Without waiting for the formalization of the Arab and Jewish states, in May 1948 they self-proclaim Israel on favorable terms and immediately begin a treacherous war against the Arabs. [523] Jewish military formations, the core of which were gangs formed back in the 20s and 30s, such as the Irgun or Stern, waged a guerrilla war for the most part, carrying out total destruction, massacre of Arabs, not excluding women and children.
As a result, by the beginning of 1949, Israel almost doubled its territory, illegally capturing most of the land (about 7 thousand square kilometers) on which the Arab state, as well as international Jerusalem, were to be built.
Thousands of SUVs donated to Israel by the American government traveled all over the country, in which were well-armed Jewish thugs who carried out mass terror against the Arab population. The inhabitants of many Arab villages were destroyed.
On December 31, 1947, Jewish bombers exploded a bomb in the quarter of Arab workers in Jaffa. On January 4, 1948, a bomb explosion destroyed the general headquarters of the Arab National Committee. At dawn on April 8, 1948, gangs Irgun and Stern surrounded the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem and began a bloody massacre. Swiss Georges Boche, member of the International Committee of the Red Cross, describes this massacre as follows: “The people of Irgun, armed with machine guns and knives, occupied the small village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, whose unarmed inhabitants of 400 people lived in peace with the Jews surrounding them. According to the loudspeakers, the population was ordered to surrender within a quarter of an hour. Several people stepped forward and were transferred to the territory of the Arab states. The rest of the population - men, women, children - everything was destroyed in cold blood. The Arab settlements of Wadi Dios, Pardes Abu, Love and Korao-Tobias were also wiped off the face of the earth. ”[524]
On April 23, 1948, Jewish gangs attacked the port of Jaffa and began firing on Arabs. These actions were accompanied by the transmission of threats through loudspeakers with an ultimatum requirement for residents to leave their homes and flee to other Arab states.
Saving their lives, 900 thousand inhabitants of Palestine fled to other Arab countries. Over 70% of the Arab population was driven out of their lands and lost their homes. [525] Here are just a few facts:
• On November 5, 1948, the population of the village of Irkit in the Western Galilee was forcibly removed from Israel.
• On November 15, 1948, the population of the village of Kfar Viraam was forcibly expelled.
• On February 4, 1949, the majority of the population of the village of Kfar Anan was forcibly expelled from the cordon. Dwellings destroyed by the army.
• On February 28, 1949, 700 refugee Arabs from other villages were arrested in the village of Kfar Yassir and forcibly escorted to a cordon. [526] The UN spokesman Count Folke Bernadotte, who devoted himself to the “mitigation of human suffering in the world”, tried to stop the wave of monstrous Jewish brutality against the Arabs. His main concern was the Arab population, driven out of their native places after the pogrom in Deir Yassin and concentrated near the borders of Israel. The peacekeeper, having familiarized himself with the situation in Palestine in the fall of 1948, suggested restoring justice: 1) the borders of Israel should be returned to their original position, according to the UN recommendations of November 1947, the areas captured by Jews should be returned to the Arabs, and the UN should ensure integrity these boundaries; 2) Jerusalem should be an international city, as provided for by UN recommendations; 3) The UN must “confirm and secure” the right of Arab refugees to return to their homes.
For these fair proposals sent to him at the UN, Count Bernadotte was brutally murdered by Jewish terrorists from the Stern gang, which was led by future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin.

[teder]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

The claims of the Jewish leaders against Palestine are based on long-dispelled myths, Old Testament legends about the "chosen people" to whom the "promised land" is destined. However, it was in this part that the Son of God, Jesus Christ, revised the Old Testament with His New Testament and deprived the Jews of their chosenness. [511]
Well.

do you claim that Jesus and all his apostles were not Jews, and then the Jews did not live there?
And then the ROC says about this?

[Uncle Murzik]

teder and did not try to read Koestler?

[Kryvbas]

What exactly is "the same"?

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Krivbass

China itself is sick of the hell out of Juche regime

Much more hemorrhoids from the United States, and the whole world. Korea needs guarantees and so that the democratizers fall behind.

[rasputin17]

Quote: IvanIvanov

Quote: Krivbass

China itself is sick of the hell out of Juche regime

Much more hemorrhoids from the United States, and the whole world. Korea needs guarantees and so that the democratizers fall behind.

In the absence of such guarantees, they are creating their own nuclear shield from "friends and well-wishers"! Because they understand that the doors of their independence can be guarded with a sword in our reality with a nuclear club!

[Kryvbas]

What do they have "independence" from? From common sense? This is a huge concentration camp with a tortured and extremely zombified population. Of course, how can the Juche bosses refuse such "independence"?

[Kryvbas]

What are the "guarantees"? What? Stop waving the nuclear baton and nafik you fell to whom?

[Kryvbas]

Once again, the United States is China's largest trading partner, and the DPRK is a direct burden, such an abnormal relative who cannot be abandoned just like that, and on the other hand got the hell out of it. The times of ideologies are over, there is only one name left for communism in China.

[rotmistr60]

What is the profit from them?

This is purely Jewish. No profit, no relationship. You would Kryvbas We recalled a little history - the occupation of China and Korea by Japan, the war in North Korea almost from the United States, which could lead to the spread of the PRC in the event of the defeat of North Korea, which provided huge assistance to volunteers. The PRC and Russia are well aware that the United States is only worth provoking a new major armed conflict in this region and this is a prerequisite for the 3rd World War. Statements by the head of the DPRK are indeed ridiculously naive. But do you really think that he will decide to start a war? All of these statements are for internal use.

[Kryvbas]

Are you a fan of alternative history? Read the history of the Korean War and who started it. But the statements are not only for internal, but also for external use. Blackmail is called international. And this piglet provokes a conflict with such insane statements. Well and a natural desire it’s quite understandable for a neighbor to defend himself against insane inadequacy - go and know what will hit him in the head tomorrow. Well, don’t compare the Maoist China of the 50s with today's. His Juche regime is only a burden today.

[rotmistr60]

this piglet

If you call your premier "pig", then you are pig screech You’ll discover that it won’t seem a little. So what right do you have to call the head of another state so? And as for the story, it’s it (the story) of your Jews that is alternative. And I advise you to put out your piggy squeal a little.

[Kryvbas]

That is, in essence, there is nothing to answer? Oh-she-she, they were offended for their beloved Kimochka :))) Only he looks like a well-fed pig, and not our prime minister. Well, about history - there is something specific to object to who started the Korean War and how did it go, or on the principle of "myself"?

[rotmistr60]

That is, essentially nothing to answer?

And I essentially answered your comment. I can add that first deal with yourself, and then climb with your claims to the Far East. Is it really not clear wrote?
So who started the Korean War historian are you our Jewish?

[Kryvbas]

It’s Kim who started the Korean war, you are our God-bearing historian. The United States actually entered the war according to the UN decision, after Kim Il Sung almost occupied the South. And the war ended exactly where it was and Kim put it. Learn the story and learn a lot. and interesting.

[rotmistr60]

Kim Il Sung almost occupied South

I advise you not to use wiki materials, let alone sources from the United States, which were well received there.

You are our God-bearing historian.

And I will take it for granted. T.ch. relax Jew you are our weak in relation to your predecessors on this site.

[Kryvbas]

Yes, you are also an ignoramus with aplomb. I don’t use Vicki at all. This is for the victims of the exam. Study the story and do not disgrace, showing your ignorance.

[Kryvbas]

Again - regardless of my attitude to the characters - what are you calling Obama? And Poroshenko? And Merkel? Why then be so offended?

[rotmistr60]

what are you calling Obama?

When I wrote that Obama has a soul ... and he was born that way, I immediately received a warning. This, as I understand it, for more than two years does not concern only you "chosen ones." that is why on the site they expressed everything they wanted "Professors", "Atalefs" and others and could call anyone they wanted.

[Kryvbas]

I've been banned already three times, by the way. Moreover, it came to just a joke - for example, for the word g and s tster :)))

[Kryvbas]

But Eun still looks like a piglet, especially against the background of ordinary North Koreans, but our prime minister - well, not a bit.

[alexmach]

Quote: Krivbass

What is the profit from them?

The most direct. Such a homeless scumbag lives near by with a huge club. If something can beat anyone you need, and if something is like he’s without Chinese help, it’s nothing that China helps him to disassemble and lubricate his club every night.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: alexmach

Such a homeless scumbag lives near by with a huge club

They often turn into "homeless thugs" thanks to black realtors such as the United States.

[alexmach]

It seems to me that there is a substantially longer and more entertaining story.

[rotmistr60]

It seems to me that there is a substantially longer and more entertaining story.

And you probably know this "story"?

. If something can beat anyone you need, and if something is like he’s without Chinese help, it’s nothing that China helps him to disassemble and lubricate his club every night.

And judging by the written, you not only do not know the story, but you just need to advise drinking less.

[alexmach]

Would you keep your advice to yourself.

[Kryvbas]

Well, as the dean, Russian conspiracy theorists know that China is arming the DPRK :)))

[mamuka]

IMHO. about execution is doubtful. states have already received in Korea and Vietnam. it’s not a flat desert table like in the Middle East, where you can’t hide + there is no opposition that will fight NATO weapons. they themselves will definitely not climb into the jungle. prosperous second half of Korea vryatli infantry will go

[Kryvbas]

In Korea, in fact, the States "got" exactly the same as the Juche. Where Kim started the war - exactly there it ended. So, by and large, it was Kim who lost, because his goal was to "annex" Bzhnoye Korea. Study history, you will learn a lot of interesting things.

[rotmistr60]

Where Kim started the war - exactly there it ended

Again, not a complete knowledge of history about which I wrote to you above. So who started the war in the North. Korea? Kim Il Sung (whom you don’t even remember by name, but just remember that Kim is there) or did the United States, through the puppet regime, start this war? I’m wondering - have you even seen one Korean and talked to him?

[rotmistr60]

I will supplement it. These Jewish zilch people in the DPRK are already pretty tired. Guys, first deal with yourself, and then slow down what should not be and then the DPRK will not bother you either.

[Kryvbas]

And you, in fact, what do you have to do with the Koreas? Did the DPRK ask "to join? Or is it already a part of Russia? You first put things in order in Russia, and then bother what you shouldn't. Komprene wu?"

[Kryvbas]

I saw it, and a lot. I also know the personal names of the Kims. But you are not a historian. Except an alternative one. It was Kim Il Sung who started the war. I will tell you something new, this will surprise you. After the Soviet troops left their zone of occupation, the US troops were there. for some time, and after they left, the very next day it was KIM IR SEN who started the war. After that, the UN voted for the introduction of American troops into the DPRK. The USSR boycotted the UN then, so there could be no veto. And the war ended exactly in the same place where KIM Il Sung started it. What a turn, huh? :))) You type in any search engine - "Korean War" - you will learn a lot of new and unexpected :)))

[rotmistr60]

Well, they waited for another "Professor" from the Promised Land. If it were not for the moderators, I would have explained to you the historical facts and your personal place in history long ago.

[taipan]

You won’t prove anything to them. They have one national peculiarity, called hutspa, they’ll call them somewhere with aplomb. They’ll call out, spray their liquid fertilizer, shit. And with a sense of accomplishment, they will dance in the end 7/40.

[Kryvbas]

Oh, another correspondence boxer :)))

[Kryvbas]

On the merits of the question, so there is nothing to answer? Merged? Well, it's not my fault that you are so paraffinous with a knowledge of history.

[mamuka]

Quote: Krivbass

In Korea, in fact, the States "got" exactly the same as the Juche. Where Kim started the war - exactly there it ended. So, by and large, it was Kim who lost, because his goal was to "annex" Bzhnoye Korea. Study history, you will learn a lot of interesting things.

---
--- Your arrogance is immeasurable. My thought was different - in the large and unacceptable losses of states in Korea. Your post "The States received exactly the same amount as the Juche" says about this. It is the Koreans who are ready to lose 50-100 thousand servicemen, but the states and none of the "civilized" ones, I am sure, will no longer want to trade like that. Therefore, with the execution in Korea, the states will vryatli once again, if only with someone else's hands or with their own special forces one-time "at night" + tomahawks at nuclear facilities in order to prevent the Koreans from making missiles

[Lumumba]

Quote: Exorcist Liberoids

The peoples of the Koreas are pitifully divided, and brainwave them.

Exactly the same thing they are trying to do with us. Almost everything turned out.

[Teberii]

The nuclear war in Korea, rather fantasy than reality. China and Russia will keep the north. Japan and the neighbors south. Only the United States, which think that they are far away, are unstable in this scheme.

[rasputin17]

That's it! They will promise support to the satellites and can start with their hands! Their usual practice is the bollards are fighting and the Lords sell them weapons add fuel to the drive and scream to the whole world that it was they who were attacked !!

[Bongo]

Pyongyang claims the likelihood of a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula

And what does the X-NUMXV5 missile system of the C-28VE complex in this photo have to the DPRK nuclear weapons?

[svp67]

Quote: Bongo

And what does the X-NUMXV5 missile system of the C-28VE complex in this photo have to the DPRK nuclear weapons?

The mediocre ...

[Barakuda]

The designers laid the possibility of installing a nuclear warhead (and was in the USSR), so the photo is just in topic.

[Bongo]

Quote: Barracuda

The designers laid the possibility of installing a nuclear warhead (and was in the USSR), so the photo is just in topic.

I might agree with you if I did not know the features of this complex. Or do you want to say that the "nuclear modification" of the 5V28MN missile defense system can fire at ground targets?

[Barakuda]

It was calculated on the use of group flying, that's for sure, and there is even a corresponding vigorous ammunition, I don’t remember the marking, google it if time allows ...

[Bongo]

Quote: Barracuda

It was calculated on the use of group flying, that's for sure, and there is even a corresponding vigorous ammunition, I don’t remember the marking, google it if time allows ...

I don’t need to google, but obviously they won’t make such a charge for the C-200VE in the DPRK, they would equip their own nuclear warhead batteries.
If you wish, read:
LAW C-200 in the XXI century
Nuclear era

[Barakuda]

I agree, the dispute is inappropriate here.

[Bongo]

Quote: Barracuda

I agree, the dispute is inappropriate here.

Yes, in general, there’s nothing to argue about ...
C-200 has beautiful and very powerful missiles, but the time of this outstanding complex is running out. Now, everywhere except Iran, perhaps, if it is used, it is only in parades.

[Kryvbas]

Why is this? There are people on duty in Syria. Another question is what is the use of them ...

[rotmistr60]

Better answer, what's the use of your "Dome" if Russian missiles suddenly fly? Again the Jewish "smart guy" appeared to replace the disappeared.

[Kryvbas]

Well, for starters - "The dome is designed to intercept missiles like the Grad or the heavier Fajar. Secondly, you behave like a child -" Russian missiles will fly ":))) Who and when in Russia was going to fight with Israel? :))) You wouldn't disgrace yourself by posing as a stupid teenager, although I have no doubt that you are either a schoolboy or alternatively gifted :)))

[Old26]

Quote: Bongo

And what does the X-NUMXV5 missile system of the C-28VE complex in this photo have to the DPRK nuclear weapons?

So the main thing is to escalate the situation! Both north and south are doing this. Scaring each other whenever possible

[Bongo]

Quote: Old26

So the main thing is to escalate the situation! Both north and south are doing this. Scaring each other whenever possible

Vladimir, welcome! The DPRK has developed quite a few of its own BRs, was it really impossible to insert their photos into the "news"?
A couple of years ago, the S-200VE air defense missile systems available in the DPRK were used just to escalate the situation. They were secretly transferred to the "front line", after which they began to take "escort" South Korean and American aircraft in the depths of South Korea. Naturally, in the cabins of military airplanes, an alarm warning about radiation began to squeal. The pilot does not know that these were just stations without missiles. By the way, most likely most of the missiles for the C-200VE in the DPRK are not capable of combat.

[Iskander Sh]

Threats, threats, DPRK wants relief in sanctions, but they will not be because of S. Korea’s desire to get nuclear weapons. S. Korea is left with nothing to do but threaten. With their threats and unwillingness to compromise, they alienated everyone, even China's main sponsor.

[kg pv]

+ you How completely tight it becomes so they immediately begin to scream. This is just ordinary blackmail.

[OLD FART]

Quote: kg pv

+ you How completely tight it becomes so they immediately begin to scream. This is just ordinary blackmail.

These are not threats, but a warning to EVERYONE! That in case of interference in the internal affairs of the state, they will be protected by all available means .. Who is our lover "to carry democracy" on the wings of bombers and cruise missiles ..? Russia constantly warns internal and external enemies with large-scale military exercises, etc. So Eun is doing everything right, let them just stick around (I hope it won't come to the use of nuclear weapons)

[knn54]

Trump "complained" that Beijing is not helping to solve the problem of North Korean aggression.
What is not a reason?

[sergo1914]

What all the same "dvuhsotochki" beautiful rockets!

[commbatant]

I support the statements of V.V. Putin, who said that many countries (Iran, South Africa, North Korea) are striving to create nuclear weapons because they believe that only they will protect their countries from external intervention, the Americans will not fight with a nuclear power ....

[Bongo]

Quote: commbatant

I support the statements of V.V. Putin, who said that many countries (Iran, South Africa, North Korea) seek to create nuclear weapons because they believe that only they will save their countries from external intervention

SOUTH AFRICA? Is this Putin said or you?

[DMoroz]

nuclear weapons in a collision with the Americans also imply the existence of effective means of delivering nuclear warheads to enemy territory. You won’t be doing such a jab on your territory ...

[Moore]

Quote: DMoroz

nuclear weapons in a collision with the Americans also imply the existence of effective means of delivering nuclear warheads to enemy territory. You won’t be doing such a jab on your territory ...

Nuclear bombs in Western Europe in the 80s on the way of the "tank hordes of the Evil Empire" are surprised reading your comment

[mamuka]

no one implies a full-scale war like World War II. But what about increasing the likelihood of receiving a preventive pinpoint strike with traditional weapons + "special forces at night" + spies (bribes of the leadership, agents of influence, etc.) to destroy the nascent nuclear potential of such countries?

[Sergey F]

The fact is that such issues should not be resolved from the point of view of force, namely, re-negotiation!
At the same time, respect, not labeling, is crucial.
The imposition of American democracy is clearly not in line with universal values.
Therefore, declaring peace and order, the United States acts contrary to its statements.

[BOB044]

Another leader bitten by a dog in the ass.

[Kurou]

Now, if you go on vacation abroad .. then in the DPRK ...
It really hurts very much what they say about her and what they do ...
At least the material base does not meet
See on the ground what is happening there and how

[Kryvbas]

Kryvbas,

Well, and also about the "pushback" - there was no need to start a war in 1948, and then continuously engage in provocations and shell the north of Israel. Provided on your own head - now complain to anyone you want, it makes no difference to us. If you asked for a war, you got it, so now there is no need to scream about "annexation".

[Uncle Murzik]

November 29, 1947 by a majority of 2/3 of the vote (including the USSR and the United States), the UN General Assembly decided to revoke the mandate of England to govern Palestine. Its territory was divided into two independent states: Arab and Jewish. The Arab state was to receive land in 11,1 thousand square meters. km (42%), and Jewish - 14,1 thousand square meters. km (56%). The cities of Jerusalem and Bethlehem, together with the regions adjacent to them, stood out as a special administrative unit and received international status. The population of Palestine was strictly determined by ethnic composition, provided for 725 thousand Arabs and 10 thousand Jews in the Arab state, and 498 thousand Jews and 407 thousand Arabs in the Jewish state. In the international city of Jerusalem, the population consisted of 105 thousand Arabs and 100 thousand Jews. [522] The return of Arab refugees expelled by the Jews from their homes was also envisaged.
The Jewish leaders decided to act on a clear-cut basis, crudely amending the UN decision. Without waiting for the formalization of the Arab and Jewish states, in May 1948 they self-proclaim Israel on favorable terms and immediately begin a treacherous war against the Arabs. [523] Jewish military formations, the core of which were gangs formed back in the 20s and 30s, such as the Irgun or Stern, waged a guerrilla war for the most part, carrying out total destruction, massacre of Arabs, not excluding women and children.
As a result, by the beginning of 1949, Israel almost doubled its territory, illegally capturing most of the land (about 7 thousand square kilometers) on which the Arab state, as well as international Jerusalem, were to be built.
Thousands of SUVs donated to Israel by the American government traveled all over the country, in which were well-armed Jewish thugs who carried out mass terror against the Arab population. The inhabitants of many Arab villages were destroyed.
On December 31, 1947, Jewish bombers exploded a bomb in the quarter of Arab workers in Jaffa. On January 4, 1948, a bomb explosion destroyed the general headquarters of the Arab National Committee. At dawn on April 8, 1948, gangs Irgun and Stern surrounded the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem and began a bloody massacre. Swiss Georges Boche, member of the International Committee of the Red Cross, describes this massacre as follows: “The people of Irgun, armed with machine guns and knives, occupied the small village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, whose unarmed inhabitants of 400 people lived in peace with the Jews surrounding them. According to the loudspeakers, the population was ordered to surrender within a quarter of an hour. Several people stepped forward and were transferred to the territory of the Arab states. The rest of the population - men, women, children - everything was destroyed in cold blood. The Arab settlements of Wadi Dios, Pardes Abu, Love and Korao-Tobias were also wiped off the face of the earth. ”[524]
On April 23, 1948, Jewish gangs attacked the port of Jaffa and began firing on Arabs. These actions were accompanied by the transmission of threats through loudspeakers with an ultimatum requirement for residents to leave their homes and flee to other Arab states.
Saving their lives, 900 thousand inhabitants of Palestine fled to other Arab countries. Over 70% of the Arab population was driven out of their lands and lost their homes. [525] Here are just a few facts:
• On November 5, 1948, the population of the village of Irkit in the Western Galilee was forcibly removed from Israel.
• On November 15, 1948, the population of the village of Kfar Viraam was forcibly expelled.
• On February 4, 1949, the majority of the population of the village of Kfar Anan was forcibly expelled from the cordon. Dwellings destroyed by the army.
• On February 28, 1949, 700 refugee Arabs from other villages were arrested in the village of Kfar Yassir and forcibly escorted to a cordon. [526] The UN spokesman Count Folke Bernadotte, who devoted himself to the “mitigation of human suffering in the world”, tried to stop the wave of monstrous Jewish brutality against the Arabs. His main concern was the Arab population, driven out of their native places after the pogrom in Deir Yassin and concentrated near the borders of Israel. The peacekeeper, having familiarized himself with the situation in Palestine in the fall of 1948, suggested restoring justice: 1) the borders of Israel should be returned to their original position, according to the UN recommendations of November 1947, the areas captured by Jews should be returned to the Arabs, and the UN should ensure integrity these boundaries; 2) Jerusalem should be an international city, as provided for by UN recommendations; 3) The UN must “confirm and secure” the right of Arab refugees to return to their homes.
For these fair proposals sent to him at the UN, Count Bernadotte was brutally murdered by Jewish terrorists from the Stern gang, which was led by future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin.

[Moore]

Quote: Krivbass

So, in the eyes of the United Nations in the Crimea and the Golan, we are in an absolutely equal position, because they immediately appeal to international standards. After the Crimea, Russia lost this right.

In Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands, as I understand it, the claims against the USSR have disappeared?
The mention of "international norms" is appropriate in the case when they are adhered to by all the subjects of the process - well, like at least in the same 45 in Potsdam.
When they are remembered only in a case suitable for the situation, these norms are worthless and the standards of expediency come out in the background, covering up with at least some legal validity that the God-chosen by their impudence did not even consider it necessary to arm themselves.
As for equal standing (HU! ) - Russia has in Crimea even its own people, who are immensely glad to sail out of 404, were not too lazy and went to polling stations. Arab shepherds in the Golan where went?
Yes, but what about the nuclear weapons in Israel itself? He can, but a fat baby doll for some reason can not?

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Orel

Let them live, but why violate the treaty and UN resolution on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons? It only bothers. They quietly floundered there in their swamp for 50 years, until they decided to acquire nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

The DPRK non-proliferation treaty did not violate, but left it because it was threatened by the US nuclear state. This agreement is voluntary and derives from it the sovereign right of each state. The US threat was that the USA placed the DPRK in the axis of evil near Iraq and attacked Iraq not because it was hit, but because it did not have nuclear weapons. Until 1991, the DPRK had an agreement with the USSR and therefore there was no need to acquire nuclear weapons and ICBMs.

[Kryvbas]

This does not happen. You sign an agreement, you receive all kinds of assistance from the IAEA, and then you say, “I changed my mind?” It doesn’t work.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: 0255

Are you sure that they live well in the DPRK? If so, why are the North Koreans fleeing to South Korea, while no one in their right mind goes to North? After all, even Kim fans with VO in the DPRK can not be driven.

Are you sure that no one from South Korea is going to live in DPRK? Dozens of thousands of South Koreans fled to North Korea and the South Korean Party is full of the Labor Party. So that the South Koreans did not run to the DPRK, South Korea scanned the entire length of the demarcation line (there is no border because there is no peace treaty, but only a truce) with a wall of iron and concrete that is higher and thicker than the Berlin wall. Nobody told you? Nobody told you that in terms of housing per head of the population of the DPRK in first place in East Asia (including South Korea and Japan)? I myself saw with my own eyes the captain of a fishing boat from South Korea who did not have a house (he lived on a ship) and he fled to the North where for the first time in his life he got his house.

[Kryvbas]

The flight from South to North can only be imagined in a nightmare. Not a single case.

[Uncle Murzik]

Kryvbas for you, to put it mildly, a "dreamer" "not only do the northerners run over to the southerners from time to time, but enemy soldiers also go over to North Korea. So, back in the 60s, six American soldiers left for North Korea. Some of them abandoned their families at home. , family, friends and family. "8 facts about North Korea that will surprise you
xage.ru ›Which will surprise you

[Kryvbas]

Remember the times of the Japanese shoguns :))) Name at least ONE case of a transition from South to North in recent years, so 30.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Krivbass

Are you a fan of alternative history? Read the history of the Korean War and who started it. But the statements are not only for internal, but also for external use. Blackmail is called international. And this piglet provokes a conflict with such insane statements. Well and a natural desire it’s quite understandable to defend oneself against a crazy insanity - go and know what will hit him in the head tomorrow

Who started the Korean war? Do you understand the difference between the conflict within Korea and foreign aggression?
The war began when a foreign state (USA) intervened with its armed forces in the internal Korean conflict and this happened on June 26, 1950. Today the conflict is provoked by those who want to bring the DPRK to the position of Iraq with sanctions. Iraq didn’t have nuclear weapons and was sung. The DPRK has nuclear weapons of deterrence and the world is now singing on the peninsula. South Korea is under an American nuclear umbrella, which was holding back the USSR, and even more so the DPRK.

[Kryvbas]

Alas, you simply don’t know the story. After the withdrawal of the Soviet units from the Korean square, the American units still remained for some time. After they left, NEXT DAY Kim Il Sung attacked the South. The American troops were introduced by UN decision after the North Koreans occupied almost the entire territory of South. So learn history. Real.

[Deniska999]

Kryvbas,
Since I century - did not belong.

[Kryvbas]

Yeah, does it mean that you belonged earlier do not deny?

[Deniska999]

Given that before that there were the Seleucids, and before them the Persians, Assyrians. When was Ashurbanipal there or did Ashurnazirapal conquer Judea?

[Kryvbas]

Stas157, Russia - from Catherine's, and Israel - 2000 years ago. And about the "fairy tales" - go to Jerusalem, feel the Western Wall (Wailing Wall) and ask when it was built and whether Israel owned the Golan at that time. So the Golan - the original Israeli land and Israel has more and much more rights to it than Russia has to the Crimea, and you will tell fairy tales to your children.

[teder]

[quote = Moore] [quote = Krivbass] So in the eyes of the UN and the Golan we are in the same position in the eyes of the United Nations, because they immediately appeal to international standards. After Crimea, Russia lost this right. [/ Quote]
In Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands, as I understand it, the claims against the USSR have disappeared?
The mention of "international norms" is appropriate in the case when they are adhered to by all the subjects of the process - well, like at least in the same 45 in Potsdam.
When they are remembered only in a case suitable for the situation, these norms are worthless and the standards of expediency come out in the background, covering up with at least some legal validity that the God-chosen by their impudence did not even consider it necessary to arm themselves.
As for equal standing (HU! ) - Russia has in Crimea even its own people, who are immensely glad to sail out of 404, were not too lazy and went to polling stations. Arab shepherds in the Golan where went?
Yes, but what about the nuclear weapons in Israel itself? He can, but a fat baby doll for some reason can not? [/ Quot]

Of course I violated, therefore, and under sanctions. By signing the DAY, she pledged not to develop I Oh - for this she had the opportunity to develop a peaceful nuclear program - she received a research reactor and the possibility of training students in USSR universities
she violated all the provisions of the NPT - do not write nonsense
Israel is not. violated the simplest reason — he did not sign it.

[Kryvbas]

Regarding Kaliningrad and the Kuriles, how will the people there want self-determination? The Kremlin claims that this is the most inalienable right. Allow me to be "determined" with a referendum? "Arab shepherds", as well as other citizens of Israel of any nationality, have every right to elect and be elected . Who wanted - of course voted. Of course, there were polling stations, since the Golan is an integral part of Israel. By the way, not only "Arab shepherds" live there. Have you decided that the Arabs in Israel are deprived of the right to vote? (Gee). Israel did not sign the NPT, did not receive any help - then what are the claims? About "adherence by all subjects" - pure demagogy. The "referendum" in Crimea was recognized by the UN as legally null and void, so from the UN point of view, the accession is absolutely illegal. And No matter what you say, we are in an equal position for the UN in the Golan and Crimea. Or does Russia recognize some of the resolutions, but not some? You have to be consistent - or all, or nothing. Or do not reproach others for this.

[Tektor]

The states provoke a war: it is very beneficial for them to involve both China and the Russian Federation in it ... This is very serious. And it will be difficult to taxi here. The states will immediately tighten sanctions against us and impose against China. Most likely - this is inevitable. Well, we will have to put out the war, but at the same time support China, holding it back, kmk.

[mr.redpartizan]

It’s necessary to extinguish not the war, but together with the Chinese to extinguish the USA! It’s better to start by simultaneously dumping Fed bonds and refusing to supply rocket engines, rare earth metals, and nuclear fuel to the United States.

[Kostadinov]

The violation of international norms in Europe, after the Cold War, began when the FRG swallowed the sovereign state of the GDR. Then they created an independent state of Kosovo.

[teder]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

teder and did not try to read Koestler?

tried - more nonsense - it is difficult to imagine

[SEER]

Quote: Mik1701

How can those who try to threaten their neighbor with a nuclear strike be respected? This is a clinic.

did not try to read the direct text?
Well, I repeat:
"Tensions are extremely high on the Korean Peninsula, and no one knows when a nuclear war will break out due to the maneuvers carried out by the United States and its followers to strangle the DPRK with unprecedented political, military and economic isolation and pressure. The United States is already not enough. redeploy a variety of strategic nuclear forces to the Korean Peninsula, including nuclear bombers and submarines. "

[SEER]

Quote: Krivbass

But Eun still looks like a piglet, especially against the background of ordinary North Koreans, but our prime minister - well, not a bit.

for advanced - Eun has diabetes mellitus.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Krivbass

This does not happen. You sign an agreement, you receive all kinds of assistance from the IAEA, and then you say, “I changed my mind?” It doesn’t work.

They join this agreement voluntarily and also leave voluntarily if they change their minds. This is the contract. Read it there everything is clear. Of course, the DPRK did not receive any help from the IAEA, but received only requests for inspection and threats from the United States, which is strictly prohibited by this treaty. Nuclear states are forbidden to threaten non-nuclear and will use the treaty as a pretext for aggression (like the United States in Iraq). Therefore, they changed their minds in the DPRK and, in full compliance with international law, left the treaty.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: teder

Of course I violated, therefore, and under sanctions. By signing the DAY, she pledged not to develop I Oh - for this she had the opportunity to develop a peaceful nuclear program - she received a research reactor and the possibility of training students in USSR universities
she violated all the provisions of the NPT - do not write nonsense
Israel is not. violated the simplest reason — he did not sign it.

Of course you do not need to write nonsense. The DPRK joined the NPT much later than it received a research reactor and trained students in the USSR. The DPRK received much less from the USSR than the PRC or India, which never joined the NPT. After receiving the NPT, I received nothing but a request for inspections by the DPRK. But Israel did not sign the NPT, but received such assistance from France about which China and India could only dream.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Krivbass

Alas, you simply don’t know the story. After the withdrawal of the Soviet units from the Korean square, the American units still remained for some time. After they left, NEXT DAY Kim Il Sung attacked the South. The American troops were introduced by UN decision after the North Koreans occupied almost the entire territory of South. So learn history. Real.

The American units left South Korea in 1949, and the war in Korea began on June 26, 1950 when a foreign state, the United States, intervened in the Korean affairs. This is called aggression according to the norms of international law, and there is no meaning whatsoever who violates this law. US ground forces clashed with North Korean troops in the early days of July 1950, and more than 90% of Korea was liberated a month later despite American involvement in the battles.