Admiral Kuznetsov Aviation Work in the Mediterranean (video)

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation published a video depicting combat sorties aviation from the board of the cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" in the Mediterranean Sea.

The video shows the combat work of aviation in the sea off the coast of Syria.

Earlier it was reported that the Admiral Kuznetsov Tavkr and the Peter the Great missile cruiser could complete their campaign in the Mediterranean this month and head for the main base of the North fleet.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Yes, everything is fine. Studying in battle conditions. And with the boilers sorted out, and with the cables of the aerofinisher. Both aircraft losses were associated with this garbage. And if there had been no intensive work, they would not have known about this defect.

[Zibelew]

Thanks to the USSR, the aircraft carrier left us a legacy, despite the fact that the price of oil was then about $ 20. But there was no Skolkovo, Rusnano and mortgages under the wild for any western state of 15% per annum.

[Muvka]

Quote: Zibelew

Thanks to the USSR, the aircraft carrier left us a legacy, despite the fact that the price of oil was then about $ 20. But there was no Skolkovo, Rusnano and mortgages under the wild for any western state of 15% per annum.

And do not remind me how much the dollar was then? Given inflation. In other words - how many times has the dollar depreciated over 30 years?

[Stas157]

Quote: Muvka

And do not remind me how much the dollar was then? Given inflation. In other words - how many times has the dollar depreciated over 30 years?

So the ruble depreciated, not the dollar! Some countries for some reason believe that currency devaluation is the theft of money from citizens who have entrusted their savings to their native state! Fools, right? For example, the Swiss franc. Just as it was worth against the dollar and other less strong currencies, so this hour is worth it! That is why the whole world trusts Swiss banks. And they accept the currency of their country, regardless of the regime in the country! I dug up a hundred-year-old treasure with dollars, and they take it at least immediately to the store, everywhere they take it, not like the wooden one, which has had a monetary reform at least every 25 years. And if you found, for example, not even the great-grandfather’s stash in the form of royal treasury tickets, but his hard-earned rubles of the 90s, then with them only to the toilet, and nowhere else!
A dollar, 30 years ago, you could buy for 60 cents. My parents spent their whole lives saving up money, they sold the car, and were about to get a new one. They had 15 thousand. And my brother and I under an insurance program, for adulthood, had to pay a thousand rubles. Just like others! Yeltsin came, and ... there was no money. Rather, there was money, but nothing was possible on them! Don't think I'm complaining! So, inspired ... As an example!)) After all, such as my family - the whole people.

[Muvka]

If you don’t know how to think, then use other people's brains. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
20 $ 1980 is equal to almost 60 current dollars.
And yet, for example, in 84, oil cost almost 30 bucks - which is approximately equal to 88 current dollars. What do you think, could we build an Aircraft Carrier if oil cost $ 88 now? I think yes.

[lelikas]

Quote: Muvka

And yet, for example, in 84, oil cost almost 30 bucks - which is approximately equal to 88 current dollars. What do you think, could we build an Aircraft Carrier if oil cost $ 88 now? I think yes.

About 8 years ago, she was 140 each, but we didn’t build anything.

[Muvka]

It has never cost so much ... But actually, since 2008, we have produced more than 400 aircraft. Do you think they were made out of thin air?

And also helicopters and much more ... For example, already on duty there are more than 1100 S-400 missiles. This is more than half of the S-300, which we have on duty. And that’s in just a few years.

[Stas157]

Quote: Muvka

If you don’t know how to think, then use other people's brains. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
20 $ 1980 is equal to almost 60 current dollars.

How do you do this?)) Thank you, I prefer to use mine! And I know very well about temporary inflation of currencies. All currencies in the world are subject to inflation, but not all devaluations (there are, of course, fluctuations within the margin of error!)! And for the ruble, it’s not even inflation, it’s depreciation, plus a significant devaluation. Yes, we would have such inflation as the bucks! Can you imagine that the ruble has fallen in price by only three times in 40 years?

[Muvka]

Clear. The economist is none of you. I will not argue. Useless.

[Peacemaker]

You do not take into account that since then the dollar itself has also depreciated. What you could buy for $ 20-50, for example, now you can’t buy.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Muvka

And do not remind me how much the dollar was then? Given inflation. In other words - how many times has the dollar depreciated over 30 years?

So the ruble depreciated, not the dollar! Some countries for some reason believe that currency devaluation is the theft of money from citizens who have entrusted their savings to their native state! Fools, right? For example, the Swiss franc. Just as it was worth against the dollar and other less strong currencies, so this hour is worth it! That is why the whole world trusts Swiss banks. And they accept the currency of their country, regardless of the regime in the country! I dug up a hundred-year-old treasure with dollars, and they take it at least immediately to the store, everywhere they take it, not like the wooden one, which has had a monetary reform at least every 25 years. And if you found, for example, not even the great-grandfather’s stash in the form of royal treasury tickets, but his hard-earned rubles of the 90s, then with them only to the toilet, and nowhere else!
A dollar, 30 years ago, you could buy for 60 cents. My parents spent their whole lives saving up money, they sold the car, and were about to get a new one. They had 15 thousand. And my brother and I under an insurance program, for adulthood, had to pay a thousand rubles. Just like others! Yeltsin came, and ... there was no money. Rather, there was money, but nothing was possible on them! Don't think I'm complaining! So, inspired ... As an example!)) After all, such as my family - the whole people.

In 1987 for 16100 rubles. you could buy a GAZ-2410. but this is the state price (according to a postcard from the grandfather of a KGB veteran, my father bought it), so if your parents had the opportunity and 15t. full-fledged Soviet rubles, it was necessary not to save further, but to borrow a piece and take a Volga, then they would sell it for a hundred mowers (our father was not fooled by the shadows) and bought a new seven or six, and estimate how much remained.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Muvka

And do not remind me how much the dollar was then? Given inflation. In other words - how many times has the dollar depreciated over 30 years?

Well, figs with him with a dollar. I haven’t been here for a long time.
The last days of the black monkey! This is more important to me. Let Trump also be on a par with him in inadequacy. But this Monkey got it. there has never been such a tour of the president in the united states. It's even a pity for these "exceptional" ones.
On the other hand, it’s bad that Trump came. Had Hillary been offended, insane, America would have degraded further on thoughts of her own exceptionalism.
And Trump is not durrraraaaak. He will raise America. and not enough.
Then the next black-eyed monkey will come, the next maniac Hillary, or even Pissassi.

[Sergej1972]

Is it possible without racism? I almost agree with everything except insults on racial or national grounds. It is unpleasant for me, as a Russian person born and raised in the USSR, for example, to read comments with a similar bias.

[Koshak]

Quote: Muvka

Quote: Zibelew

Thanks to the USSR, the aircraft carrier left us a legacy, despite the fact that the price of oil was then about $ 20. But there was no Skolkovo, Rusnano and mortgages under the wild for any western state of 15% per annum.

And do not remind me how much the dollar was then? Given inflation. In other words - how many times has the dollar depreciated over 30 years?

Why are you measuring everything in dollars. Do you buy bread, sausage and milk for "green" ones in the store? I remember, in Soviet times, from a grub for hard currency (checks and certificates), I only bought Johnny Walker whiskey, and then I gave a bruise to my neighbor. My moonshine is a hundred times better.

[Muvka]

Well, the oil is then measured in dollars by the commentator above, not in gold.

[Sergej1972]

I somehow can’t believe in the latter. No matter how good moonshine is, normal whiskey is still better.

[Titsen]

Quote: Zibelew

But there was no Skolkovo, Rusnano and mortgages under the wild for any Western state of 15% per annum.

Well, why are you so harsh and rude - Rusnano!

Nevertheless, the New Year has just begun, and you are immediately talking about red things and troubles.

Kinder to be to the population!

[vovanpain]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And if there had been no intensive work, they would not have known about this defect.

First of all, this is experience. And experience is achieved only by practice and in combat conditions. We lost two aircraft, yes sadly, but this is also the accumulation of experience and conclusions for the future.

Quote: STARPER

Now the second wave will go, but it is easier to flood Kuznetsov off the coast of Syria ..

That Vitaly the second went well under the cucumber? What volume of Kuznetsov was going to drown?

[Lukich]

Quote: vovanpain

Lost two planes, yes sadly

the most important thing is the pilots are alive, and you can always rivet iron

[bouncyhunter]

First of all, this is experience. And experience is achieved only by practice and in combat conditions. We lost two aircraft, yes sadly, but this is also the accumulation of experience and conclusions for the future.

You won’t throw words out of a song. But I remain in my opinion - for this it was not necessary to go to Syria, but to completely do with exercises in their territorial waters.

[vovanpain]

Quote: bouncyhunter

You won’t throw words out of a song. But I remain in my opinion - for this it was not necessary to go to Syria, but to completely do with exercises in their territorial waters.

I won’t persuade Pasha, but combat work is combat work, and exercises, though close to military ones, are exercises.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: vovanpain

I won’t persuade Pasha, but combat work is combat work, and exercises, though close to military ones, are exercises.

Vlad, I just expressed my opinion, which I do not impose on anyone.

[Photon]

Combat work, this is of course ... Only now I want to know, under combat conditions the properties of the cables change? And whose great mind made the MIG cut circles, instead of going to Khmeimim or another airfield. Of course, they learn from mistakes. Only smart people learn from the mistakes of others. One thing is a unique contingency. But the situation with the cable break

[svp67]

Quote: bouncyhunter

But I remain in my opinion - for this it was not necessary to go to Syria, but to completely do with exercises in their territorial waters

Why not cheat them in strangers? Moreover, a long journey is the same study, and what kind of study. The sailors understand this very well. And then they combined everything and study and combat training. Moreover, I am sure that the plans for the modernization of Kuzma are being adjusted now, taking into account the experience gained.

[bouncyhunter]

Sergei I have nothing against a long-distance campaign and the use of the Kuzi in combat. I just expressed my opinion that the shortcomings of the technical condition could well have been identified during the exercise, at a lower cost. In any case, the campaign has taken place and the film cannot be rewound. And history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood. Yours faithfully

[svp67]

Quote: bouncyhunter

that the deficiencies of the technical condition could well be identified in the course of the exercises, with lower costs. Yours faithfully

With the same respect to you personally and to your opinion.
But alas, this is still somehow "not in Russian" ... We are all trying to "beat two, so that later we can take one whole" ... Somehow we learn badly from other people's mistakes, we definitely need ON OURS.
I perfectly understand why during this period of time the "Kuzya" was needed there, but apparently the degree of its readiness for "accomplishing the feat" was nevertheless estimated a bit optimistically ... The main thing is that people are alive, and we will still build planes ...

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: svp67

I perfectly understand why during this period of time the "Kuzya" was needed there, but apparently the degree of its readiness for "accomplishing the feat" was nevertheless estimated a bit optimistically ... The main thing is that people are alive, and we will still build planes ...

This unreasonable optimism let down ... But I still believe in the successful modernization of "Kuzi" based on the experience gained.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: bouncyhunter

. I just expressed my opinion that the flaws of the technical condition could well be identified during the exercises, at a lower cost.

do you think that no one knew? (sorry, with all due respect ...) "Kuznetsov" was personally interesting to me from the moment my brother served on it, then it was 3 years, and my brother lived accordingly and saw everything not on "cinema" ... the neglect of the economy was already visible 22 years ago, when the cruiser was relatively fresh. everything was gloomy, starting with the places of "rest" of the flight crew, -in fact, for whom the ship was created, the carelessness was in full swing, after all, "dashing years", accidents of "boilers" - constantly, if you do not know, I inform you, that they are "almost identical" with our destroyers of the project 956 "sarych" koi almost all died in the Bose, solely because of this system, (the specialists will not let them lie) and so, these poor "sarychs" became "donors" for "kuznetsov" ... they took what they could from them, and after that they died ... completely ... (like this, thanks to the "kuza", we also lost the destroyers) already by inertia giving organs to their unfortunate brothers and sisters (by name) without a good DEU, the ship has problems with the start of aircraft, there is already a springboard, you also need to accelerate the "steam locomotive" to a decent speed in order to help aircraft with a more or less decent load to take off, (and 45-50 km per hour, a plus is not a little) ... so, friends, problems are above the highest mast at the "Kuzi" ... it's sad of course, but he is not a fighter ... probably a very serious capital is needed, is the ship worth it? I do not impose my opinion, refute, I will be glad.

[bouncyhunter]

sad of course, but he is not a fighter ... I probably need a sooooo serious capital, is the ship worth it? I do not impose my opinion, deny it, I will be glad.

I am not a specialist shipbuilder, therefore I have no right to refute your opinion. But, again, I believe in the successful modernization of the Kuzi based on the experience gained. After all, there are specialists who can honestly and clearly determine the state of the ship and the possibility of its deep modernization. Russia will not become like the 404 and sell "Kuzya" to the Chinese at the price of scrap so that the Chinese will bring it back to life in their fleet. I understand that in our difficult times it seems naive to believe in such a thing as "honesty", but I am an optimist. I believe in people. Yours faithfully

[Andrey Yuryevich]

optimism, Pavel (may I address you like that?) is a good quality, especially if optimism is backed up by something. - alas, I don’t see THIS. and actually the prerequisites for the modernization of our "pride" - I also do not see ... the main power plant cannot, like this, take it and shove it into a steamer, and it will be "atomic powered" miracles do not happen, you need to rebuild EVERYTHING! and therefore, I think, this campaign of "Kuznetsov" was the final one in his career, perhaps he, for some time, will remain a floating likeness of "THREAD" - no more, I think his fate (especially my opinion) has been decided, he did not show himself in any way - costs huge. sentence ... alas.

[bouncyhunter]

Pavel (let me address you like that?)

Andrey Yurievich! You can just Pasha and "you"
I admit your arguments are not unfounded, but nevertheless I propose to wait for the "verdict" of experts and the commission (if there is one) on the further fate of "Admiral Kuznetsov", so as not to become like all the vapors or uryakals.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

You can just Pasha and on "you": hi

: good! I am calling you for a chascha and dabrabytu ў Happy New Year!

[Photon]

I have heard about Kuznetsov’s Daewoo for more than a year. But, while the problem was not in Daewoo

[pafegosoff]

Absolutely agree. Alive, and for the beaten two stuffed give. And in general, what kind of war without losses? Let - such?
Anything can happen. Worst of all - on the roads.
And on aircraft carriers .... Look, Mac Crack-McCain, how many vehicles did you destroy?

[Zibelew]

Quote: vovanpain

That Vitaliy the second went well under the cucumber? What volume of Kuznetsov was going to drown? However

Vitaly stood up for the Russian aircraft carrier on the previous branch, where every second commentator on Kuznetsov pours shit with ears. In vain you are so respected.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Zibelew

Vitaly for the Russian aircraft carrier stepped on the previous branch, where every second on Kuznetsov pours shit. In vain you are so respected

protects on the next branch, and now I’m going to drown The second wave, as Vitaliy hints here. If it does, then oh how not soon. Even the project of the aircraft carrier has not yet been developed, and the only aircraft carrier cruiser has drowned, what will we do with Tom Kuznetsov? Vitale has been saying for a long time, think first, and then write. Sincerely Tagir.

[Uncle]

Quote: vovanpain

Lost two planes, yes sadly

How kind you are. Do not remember who used to say that every problem has a name, surname and middle name?

[Koshak]

Quote: vovanpain

That Vitaly the second went well under the cucumber? What volume of Kuznetsov was going to drown?

Vitalik is, as always, in the forefront with oak comments (he will soon become a "general") For him, if not "build everything," then "drown everything," or gouge it with "poplars" and "calibers"

[Bongo]

The video shows the combat work of aviation in the sea off the coast of Syria.

There’s just no combat work on the video! All flights, either empty, or with aerial combat R-27 and R-73.

[jaroff]

Absolutely right! I wanted to write the same thing.

[Photon]

So like deck aircraft for striking the ground is not very designed

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Yes, everything is fine. Studying in battle conditions. And with the boilers sorted out, and with the cables of the aerofinisher. Both aircraft losses were associated with this garbage. And if there had been no intensive work, they would not have known about this defect.

BGG is all and in training in the North one could find out - they would do without shame in front of the whole world

[Photon]

And that there was no training?

[OLD FART]

Now the second wave will go, but it is easier to flood Kuznetsov off the coast of Syria ..

[Krabik]

Even for you it’s cool, and not more efficient, to reach the Crimea and saw it there for scrap?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Krabik

Even for you it’s cool, and not more efficient, to reach the Crimea and saw it there for scrap?

Vitaly is sometimes overly expressive, (by the way, there are about 18 tons of metal!) The Chinese, for example, "Varyag" dragged away to themselves, despite the incredible difficulties (I already envy their perseverance), of course they bought "for nothing", they probably drank more with the leadership of the Ukrainian side, https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh000hWeh0Y
fA - who cares, I can’t see IT. They promised to make neg of casino-aga! ... It turned out to be an aircraft carrier ... learn ... not how to sell your homeland, but how to do it better ....

[Krabik]

They did it right, if they hadn’t sold it, it would have rotted against the wall, like a cruiser built at 80%.

We ourselves have cruisers at the wall, and the Moscow Region is sorry to cut and cannot repair.

And there is also economic efficiency, is it possible to restore old cruisers by the wall at all ?!
But this is not about Kuzyu, he is in good condition, I think it will be a long time for our friends to be an eyesore ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Krabik

But this is not about Kuzyu, he is in good condition, I think it will be a long time for our friends to be an eyesore

you certainly got very excited about the "normal" state and in general ... I think that he will "call out" the eyes of Murmansk residents ... like a museum ... sorry, but it's honest.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Krabik

They did it right, if they hadn’t sold it, it would have rotted against the wall, like a cruiser built at 80%.

mmmda .... and you sell cheap "saiga" to a neighbor in whom you are not quite sure, and who has a huge number of children, and they are already big and greyhounds ... can you sleep well? well, well ...

[Krabik]

and you sell it cheaply

Ukraine sold and did the right thing, China is not a neighbor and they do not need a cruiser.

And here, not yet cut up for scrap, the "eagles" stand at the wall and they do not look very much like the "Saiga", but more like a rusty and crooked pipe from which a suicide is easier.

got very excited

If he swims and performs the task, then in normal condition!
The amers even have a new cruiser "stalled" and the Nimitzes break down constantly, half of them live on the docks.

It is normal practice to permanently break down a very complex and large technique.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Krabik

It is normal practice to permanently break down a very complex and large technique.

this is nothing if there are a lot of "technology", but if "she" is one, and the sense from her is tears ...? but in China, I will answer this way, but what, Ukraine is no longer on our part of land? I do not think that in a peak situation, someone will consider it as "not Russia" ... China has already profited well from the corrupt skins from Ukraine, now it is not interesting to him. what is left there?

[Krabik]

The sense is very decent!

To sail across the floor of the world in a huge warship as part of the fleet for disassembly - this gives our politicians additional arguments for negotiations.

And our IBM is second only to the USA (in the Mediterranean), in my opinion this is a very excellent result.
If you are an idealist and want everything better and more than others, then of course you will have disappointment ...

The neighbor’s wife is prettier, the door is more expensive, the car is cleaner and the penis is longer so you can go crazy%)

[Koshak]

Quote: STARPER

Now the second wave will go, but it is easier to flood Kuznetsov off the coast of Syria ..

Vitalik, did he understand what he wrote? At least read my comment before inserting

[bald]

Pancake! - Well, what a beauty! Terrible beauty!

[Holoy]

That can’t tell our Truth ... After all, the Old Video! I already saw him two months ago ... Lazy became, at least something new would be removed?

[vovanpain]

Quote: Holoy

That can’t tell our Truth ... After all, the Old Video! I already saw him two months ago ... Lazy became, at least something new would be removed?

Here's Alexander, keep the video "fresher" posted on 16.11.2016/4.01.2017/1, and in the article the video was posted on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX XNUMX hour ago.

[Thunderbolt]

And what they destroyed the militants is not shown, takeoff with air-to-air missiles or without them at all.

[opus]

Quote: author

The video shows the combat work of aviation in the sea off the coast of Syria.

All are armed with a full-fledged (well, outwardly, for sure) KHIBINY-U (L175VE) KREP or maybe Tarantul - ***



== for journalists ===========

ce happy
Is the 2013 contract complete?
The basic placement in the framework of development work is planned to be performed on the super-maneuverable Su-30СМ fighters.

Electronic warfare is the effect of radio emissions on the enemy’s electronic command, communication and reconnaissance systems with the aim of changing the quality of military information circulating in them, protecting their systems from similar influences, and changing the propagation conditions of radio waves.

still on turntables "Lever-AB" or "Vitebsk - **" (L370E8) or L370P-2

[Boa kaa]

The video is presented combat aviation work at sea off the coast of Syria.

Of course, the video frames cause every normal compatriot to be proud and respect for our deck aviation pilots ... This is so.
BUT!!! The press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation hangs a "branchy cranberry" on the ears of a gullible man in the street.
I will explain my thought.
1. On the roller, the MiG-29K took off without any suspension on the external nodes of any missiles.
2. SU-33 carried only air combat missiles and EW stations at the wingtips.
3. For the entire video, not a single landing on Kuznetsov’s deck was shown. But this is the most difficult element in the training of ship pilots.
4. "Combat work" is the use of weapons. And where is IT?
Thus, we can give advice to the writing fraternity: you need to be more precise in the definitions and not assume that "people grab everything."
Nevertheless, with respect

[Muvka]

Actually, there is an attempt to land, unsuccessful. And is not the Su-33 a fighter? I think he flew to cover the bombers, didn’t he? Therefore, explosives.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Muvka

Actually, there is an attempt to land, unsuccessful.

The video shows a passage above the deck. There is a preparatory exercise. It's like "trying on" the speed, location, landing course, and of course, look at the "Moon"! listen to the comments and instructions of the flight director with the UPC.
Somehow, however.

[opus]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

1. On the roller, the MiG-29K took off without any suspension on the external nodes of any missiles.

watch nadot (everything), and not chat "in vain"

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

2. SU-33 carried only air combat missiles and EW stations at the wingtips.

Su-33 (T-10K; formerly known as Su-27K; NATO codification: Flanker-D) - Soviet / Russian deck fighter fourth generation

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

3. For the entire video, not a single landing on Kuznetsov’s deck was shown. But this is the most difficult element in the training of ship pilots.

sho they sat in Syria?
I doubt it ... m. isn't everything going smoothly? but ce

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

The press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation hangs "branchy cranberries"

after the jambs (2x lost) -TOLITY

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

4. "Combat work" is the use of weapons. And where is IT?

Жауынгерлік жұмыс
1) performance of duties personnel in the transfer of equipment to a combat situation, the preparation of firing strikes. Evaluation criterion B. p. - interim regulations;
2) section of special training for the personnel of the missile forces. (Well, that’s not the topic)

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Thus, we can give advice to the writing fraternity: you need to be more precise in the definitions and not assume that "people grab everything."

This (video) = 100% zhauyngerlіk zhmys

[Photon]

As far as I understand, the cover of strike aircraft can also be combat work.

[Aandrewsir]

Yes, there were losses. This is bad. But we learn from mistakes. The weak are beaten. You have to be strong. And to be able to show it to "partners". It seems we are slowly learning. "The powerlessness of the 90s" is a thing of the past. Thank God ... and our Armed Forces !!!

[pafegosoff]

Support!
This is a real military campaign. With least daily airplanes. And cable breaks ... And where are the metallurgists, like Satanovsky, yes Solovyov? Create nerve-wrapping cables for multi-ton flying colossus!

[pafegosoff]

I don’t even understand how the editor composes for me.
This is how the last war will begin: one president will wish the other good morning, and the computer will translate: "We launched all the missiles at you, hurray!"

[Grits]

It seems to me that not a single barmale was killed by aircraft strikes from Kuzi. There is absolutely no information about how many sorties were made? How many of them are with shock weapons? Where were these attacks delivered and what was destroyed as a result? And also what is the ratio of sorties and hits accounted for by Sushki and Migi? How did the Katran helicopter show itself and did it provide any support to the troops from the air? And it is very interesting - how many planes are left on the aircraft carrier or are they all based on Khmeimim now?
In general, Moscow Region showed us a beautiful advertising image that does not say anything. Say - everything is fine, everything is under control - a successful trip.

[Muvka]

Just because you are sitting on a couch and doing nothing does not mean that you own the information. And the Ka-52K showed itself near Palmyra, when a couple of days were not allowed to take the city black. And you sit further and consider yourself the most informed. And yet, tell me by the dates when the Su-24 bombed targets and which ones exactly. And about the Su-34 as well. Since you are saying that you do not have information about the work of 33 and 29 with Kuznetsov, I assume that you have such info about 24/25/34 from Latakia. I'm waiting.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Muvka

And the Ka-52K showed itself near Palmyra, when a couple of days were not allowed to occupy the city with blacks.

and then what happened? ammo out?

[Muvka]

Weak to destroy 5k snouts from several helicopters? Moreover, they are not concentrated in one place. Without support from the ground, it is impossible to stop such a codle.

[Grits]

And the Ka-52K showed itself near Palmyra, when a couple of days were not allowed to occupy the city with blacks.
Take a ruler and calculate the distance from the place of constant patrolling of Kuzi to the Syrian coast, and then even to the province of Homs. And palmyra in particular. Considering the way back, you, being the pilot of this helicopter, would hardly survive until the next day. Realizing this, our Defense Ministry deployed a group of helicopters at the T-4 airfield, which is in the immediate vicinity of Palmyra. It was they who fought off the barmels, and not "Kartan". Logic can also sometimes be turned on.

[Grits]

Since you are saying that you do not have information about the work of 33 and 29 with Kuznetsov, I assume that you have such info about 24/25/34 from Latakia. I'm waiting.
Do not wait. It is enough to recall the first days when our aircraft worked in Syria. When there were briefings every day and the media posted information about the number of sorties, what flew out, what and where it was destroyed with the accompanying videos. If such a spectacular and effective work would be with Kuzi, then in order to promote and boost morale, we would also see such reports. At least in the early days. But they were not there. I think that there were no special results of combat work. And after the tragedies with the planes, in general, everything died out and was blown away.

[timgan777]

whoever would moo about the uselessness of our aircraft carrier - they study, they act, and do not stand at the pier
there are no goals without strikes, no victory without a fight

[pafegosoff]

I agree. And the Nimit ... Let them boil. A large ship has a large torpedo (vigorous).

[alexhol]

The most important achievement of "Kuzi" - it aroused public interest. As it turned out, not everything is as beautiful as on the MO rollers. For some reason, it seems that he may not reach it on his own.

[pafegosoff]

The Black Sea is near.

[igorka357]

I don’t understand patriotism, all things ... but how miserable all the same Kuzya looks compared to their Nimitse, everything is in full swing, teeming with a bunch of people on the deck, a bunch of planes ... and we have .... sadness!

[pafegosoff]

Seen, teeming, and then - bam! And McCain is burned ... See how the aircraft carrier burns ...

[igorka357]

And we didn’t even have a crawl, there are no two planes bam ... funny yes))?

[Former battalion commander]

He screwed up, wiped himself and ... home ... lick his wounds ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Former Combat

He screwed up, wiped himself and ... home ... lick his wounds ...

Well ... yours, off the coast of Belarus is safe ...

[alexhol]

Keeping the fleet is the lot of wealthy states where they do not know where to spend it already. And we are poor people, there’s no extra money. Fertility has recently grown, and at the time of the birth of a third child in the family, it is necessary to compensate for the construction loan (about $ 3), and there are many such families, not for the fleet. This is good for you, YOU are RICH.

[Krabik]

The fleet is held to protect coasts, protect maritime trade and marine resources.

For Belarus, this is not relevant, but vital for us.

[Samuel Marshak]

Lukashenka said: “Belarusian, this is Russian with a quality mark.” So match. And we will be glad for you and will also try, but for now we will learn and build (this is about the fleet).

[pafegosoff]

Yes, to hell there! Two planes are lost, the pilots are alive, during combat operations this is excellent!

[igorka357]

Great? Losing two planes on eighteen sorties is great? Funny ...

[Karaul73]

Against whom are air-to-air missions launched? Have barmaley that planes have already appeared? Ordinary training flights. It was necessary to drive Kuzyu in the Mediterranean for this.

[pafegosoff]

Well, yes, where are NATO airplanes? Who struck the Syrian troops? And the same "partner" Israel? So the rockets are badly needed.

[internal enemy]

I don’t understand why to spend such money on Kuzyu, isn’t it easier to build serial frigates and corvettes, and the navy will live quite without an aircraft carrier.

[pafegosoff]

Not easier. The cruiser, as a separate unit, is rather weak, but it is the center of the group. This is the base. Small, but - Base! And small boats ... Well, yes, we need

[sergei1975]

And if all aircraft carriers of the USSR remained in service!

[Krabik]

And if the leadership began the construction of the Stalin Strait, proposed by Sakharov!

[pafegosoff]

And all at once bent over from leukemia

[ando_bor]

Quote: sergei1975

And if all aircraft carriers of the USSR remained in service!

And what was the army in the USSR? - almost five million, - it cannot be, - this is not trampled upon by any economy, - but it did not trample.

[Samuel Marshak]

Drive both Kuzya himself and his aircraft to a sweat. Breaks down - to repair, modernize what you can. Study should be replaced by combat work. Train more flyers to work in real conditions, and not "conditionally" and only according to the "conditional enemy". Undertook to exploit, so squeeze out of him everything you can, because someone else's experience he thoroughly only strangers and known, you need to work out your own.

[Grits]

Although I harshly criticize the activities of Kuzi in Syria, this does not mean that I mock. I simply state the fact - with all the positive qualities of acquiring combat experience, we can conclude that the campaign is almost a failure.
And also I am absolutely not against the composition of our fleet of aircraft carriers, despite such a setback. Quite the contrary - I would like to see such a unit in each of our fleets (at least Pacific Fleet, CSF). But the whole point is precisely that skepticism following the results of the campaign not only I show, but also the highest command. And, accordingly, the issue of commissioning aircraft carriers either is oooochen postponed, or will not be raised at all. It was an exam on the possibility of further construction of aircraft carriers in our country. Kuzi crew failed

[Cruel beaver]

"We are Russians! What a delight!" (A.V. Suvorov)
.... even though I live in (!) Ukraine.

[Mentat]

Quote: Zibelew

Thanks to the USSR, the aircraft carrier left us a legacy, despite the fact that the price of oil was then about $ 20. But there was no Skolkovo, Rusnano and mortgages under the wild for any western state of 15% per annum.

In general, it’s expected, judging by your avatrack, but whoever screwed your likes on this, the same couch sufferers for like the truth?
It's easy to find a dollar inflation chart on the Internet. High interest on loans in Russia is due to the high mobility of the ruble. “Any Western state” with low interest on loans is a vassal of the dollar system, which ensures the stability of its exchange rate and the ability to have these lowest interest rates due to low risks.
When the ruble becomes so guaranteed stable (resources, military, economic and political power), low interest on loans will appear.