Kiev allowed the military to shoot down "random" aircraft

The authorities of Ukraine allowed the military to open fire on aircraft illegally crossing the state border or suspected of committing terrorist acts in the airspace of the country.

Ukrainian СР-125-2Д “Pechora-2Д”

"The duty forces apply weapon and military equipment after warning fire from cannon armament of duty interceptor aircraft (helicopters) to prevent violations of the state border of Ukraine by aircraft of armed formations of other states that do not execute commands (signals) of interceptor aircraft; termination of unlawful actions of aircraft, if they are used to carry out a terrorist act in the airspace of Ukraine, including in the area of ​​the antiterrorist operation, ”the resolution of the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers, published on Thursday, says.

The document gives the right to make a decision on the opening of preventive fire and fire on the purpose of "the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, the Chief of the General Staff - the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, the Commander of the Air Force or the persons performing their duties."

Comments

[Tambov Wolf]

Well, and if our aircraft is actually knocked down, then how do we respond? They don’t deliver tomatoes to us. Or is HPP applicable again? Keep silent and call for peace?

[vovanpain]

Ukrainian authorities allowed the military to open fire on aircraft

Oh e e, something alarmingly it became.

[Alex20042004]

Account has long been opened!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Tambov Wolf

Well, and if our aircraft is actually knocked down, then how do we respond? They don’t deliver tomatoes to us. Or is HPP applicable again? Keep silent and call for peace?

I think we will not be silent. If they knock down the plane, they will receive a response. The jumpers are screaming about Russian aggression at all corners and from every iron. So an extra "yap" on their part is like a grain of an elephant.

[vladimirw]

Do not hope, they will not bomb the Kiev! one chatter, liberalists are very strong in the government of the Russian Federation

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: vladimirw

Do not hope, they will not bomb the Kiev! one chatter, liberalists are very strong in the government of the Russian Federation

Oh how? But how, in 2014, the State Duma unanimously gave the go-ahead to the President to make an independent decision on the introduction of troops into the adjacent territory, if necessary?

[Egor-dis]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Quote: vladimirw

Do not hope, they will not bomb the Kiev! one chatter, liberalists are very strong in the government of the Russian Federation

Oh how? But how, in 2014, the State Duma unanimously gave the go-ahead to the President to make an independent decision on the introduction of troops into the adjacent territory, if necessary?

Gave, then canceled.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Egor-dis

Gave, then canceled.

At the request of the President.

[Samarin]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Knock down the plane - get the answer

THAN?
sofa strategist, pi ... to put it - do not toss the bags

[Chertkov Oleg]

Well, if our plane is actually knocked down,

"Shooting missiles at the Crimea" was also, after all, from crackers, probably.

[Alex20042004]

Give the fool a glass of horseradish, he will break it!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Oleg Chertkov

Missile Shooting in Crimea

What are you about?!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

What are you about?!!!!!!!!!!!

This is he about "heard the ringing, but does not know where he is."

[Gray brother]

Quote: Oleg Chertkov

"Shooting missiles at the Crimea" was also, after all, from crackers, probably.

Why then didn’t you hit?

[FREGATEN]

Well, what are we doing? What kind of tomatoes? This is a completely different situation .... It’s just that Ukraine will remain without a gap on the entire reach of the air defense systems of the Russian Federation ... without its one and a half aircraft remaining after the cheerful raids on the Donbass ...

[svp67]

Quote: Tambov Wolf

Well, and if our aircraft is actually knocked down, then how do we respond?

It is necessary to do it now, and not when the "roast cock will bite". Of course, cover Crimea in every possible way, both from land and from the sea. Get it from the regiment and carefully study the plans of action of the government troops of Vietnam against the half-pot Kampuchea and, on their basis, prepare your plan. And, of course, to the Foreign Ministry to declare that any such attempt will be regarded by us as an ACT OF WAR.

[your1970]

In general, the only thing that seemed strange to me was that they didn’t have such a situation. If you throw back the country 404 (throw "Ukraine" from the text) - this is a completely standard and reasonable position in force in all countries of the world that have at least some air defense, well, except that the level of decision-making has been reduced.
That’s what to expect from the 404 country now is another question ...

[Olgovich]

Quote: Tambov Wolf

Well, and if our aircraft is actually knocked down, then how do we respond? They don’t deliver tomatoes to us. Or is HPP applicable again? Keep silent and call for peace?

This, in fact, is about CRIMEA (they consider its airspace, for some reason, their ).

By this decree they automatically outlaw and threaten dozens of civilians planes flying to the Crimea.

Russia's answer to this challenge The ruins, I think, should be immediate, tough and not giving double interpretations. It is also necessary to warn international organizations.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Olgovich

By this decree, they automatically outlaw and threaten dozens of civilian aircraft flying to Crimea.

Dushka is not enough.

[drunkram]

Where is our plane from?

[volodya]

They know how to shoot down peaceful planes well!

[rotmistr60]

With these (Ukraine) it is clear. They are now not in time for Obama. On top of that, they introduce some new sanctions against Russia. The next step in unison with the owner is to send our diplomats.

allowed the military to open fire on aircraft that violate the state border

I wonder from which border with the western or eastern?

[AID.S]

Quote: rotmistr60

I wonder from which border with the western or eastern?

This is a continuation of the attempt to cover the skies over the Crimea. Remember the recent teachings.

[rotmistr60]

I understand it. The question is purely rhetorical. Polish planes will also shoot down?

[AID.S]

Polish planes do not exist. So they won’t.

[revnagan]

This is the beginning of the complete strangulation of the PMR.

[Orionvit]

From the western border, they all have their own. A master’s plane, by definition, cannot be a stranger.

[Wildowl]

It’s interesting to me how many planes and whose they want to bring down and who will remain guilty. Almost no one flies above them anyway.

[engineer74]

At the non-brothers "Crimea is Ukraine!" - don't forget! This is the whole point of the order, i.e. they got the right to shoot at planes in the Crimea !!! Dbl blt!

[Reserve buildbat]

Jackals get out of their way to drag our country into a real war. Tired already

[DM51]

And before the type, they shot down civil planes at their own peril and risk, without permission from the Kiev madhouse, and now, when is the official permission to unfold in full?

[aszzz888]

Legitimate shot down civilian aircraft.

[Morris worm]

That is, if they bring down the civilian side, then announcing that there were terrorists and separatists will relieve themselves of responsibility. Well, we look forward to New Year's provocations.

[ekebastus]

How would they there their non-insurgents .... foolishly ...

[aszzz888]

ekebastus Today, 10:05 AM
How would they there their non-insurgents .... foolishly ...

That would be the best option.

[HAM]

I wonder if this applies to American drones? And are the yanker drones and scouts "native"! ??

[novel66]

Actually, there are two questions: you voiced the first, and the second - what is the warning fire of SAM missiles?

[your1970]

Quote: novel xnumx

and the second - what is the warning light of ammunition?

after warning fire with cannon weapons of interceptor aircraft on duty

[novel66]

Do they have them ?????

[alavrin]

Well, if in a combat-ready state they have only 15-20 aircraft, the fire will probably be fired from balloons.

[GeorgeSev85]

Kiev authorities allowed the military to open fire on aircraft that violate the state border

Well, the stump of the macaque is clear gave the order before leaving ... in every possible way to draw Russia into the bondage of the military with Ukraine. I will not be surprised at another provocation by Ukraine.

[viktor.]

Quote: aszzz888

Legitimate shot down civilian aircraft.

that's for sure, creatures can wake up until January 20!

[NEXUS]

But was this permission not valid when the Ukrainians shot down the Boeing and dumped everything on Russia? By the way, how is the case going on to investigate the downed Boeing over the Donbass? After that, they started to impose sanctions.

[aszzz888]

NEXUS

By the way, how is the case going on investigating the downed Boeing over the Donbass?

I think that so far everything has stood still waiting for the arrival of Trump. And it may very well be that they begin to bend in the opposite direction, i.e. on ukrokaklov.

[perm23]

Well, depending on where they decide. to cross their borders.

[Wolka]

dill provocateurs, they do everything to unfasten their nettles in the ass

[svp67]

The Ukrainian authorities allowed the military to open fire on aircraft illegally crossing the state border ...

They consider Crimea their territory, and if so, then any of our aircraft flying there UNDER THREAT. Albeit hypothetical but threatening

[avg-mgn]

This statement is a direct provocation (they themselves would not have thought of it). It would be possible to score, do not claim Kiev that the Crimea is Ukrainian. Of course, this loud statement of real action will not follow, their military, although brainwashed, but still not suicides. There will be an exchange of notes, there will be another warning to Kiev ... Well, they want to play muscles in front of the mirror, and there is a dystrophic figure.

[Rusfaner]

And after all, they will kill someone! They're the Monkeys ...

[jovanni]

Kiev allowed the military to shoot down "random" aircraft

Yes, they had not steamed before, neither Kiev nor its military! Conscience does not gnaw these murderers for innocently taken lives ...

[Berkut24]

Was there permission for the downed Boeing, or is the Ukrainian air defense living its own separate life?

[Suharik.inline]

"suspected of committing terrorist attacks in the airspace of the country" is a very strange wording.
Look, that plane seemed to have done something, knock down .........
And you.

[Evgen2x]

They even figachat without permission, and now what will begin ???

[VALERIK_097]

They will probably be figuring their own, at the moment in the air over 404, 17 boards (fly radar), 1 board to Moscow (Chisinau-Moscow), here I would change the minibus.

[samarin1969]

At one time, "Tymchuk" sang a lot about "night helicopters" ... They can catch the border guards in the "five-second zone". There is such a mess in the politics of Ukraine and its curators that there will be reasons to shoot down a "random plane".

[pts-m]

Kakhly are clever lads. They have it so, and even the popular saying says ... knock down your own, so that strangers would be afraid ...

[Suharik.inline]

No, of course, I understand the protection of the country's airspace is a sacred thing.
But there are certain procedures before you shoot.
And if Ukraine wanted to convey something to someone, then honestly they have a very peculiar wording.
And what is there new to invent if they already exist. Another attempt to flex your muscles and show your mind
and so they all fly away from sin away.
God forbid if they still land someone.

[Incvizitor]

But there was nothing for the Boeing, and impunity breeds permissiveness.

[Deniosf]

"Kiev allowed the military to shoot down" random "planes


Why use such a covert expression? They would say frankly that "random" aircraft are Russian aircraft. Only, how would you dill then not choke in your own g ...

[Bering Strait]

It's time to close the border with Banderostan and stop flights over its territory by Russian aircraft .... It's enough that they have already shot down the Tu-154 of Siberia Airlines.

[Region39]

But only Russian planes will see their air defense, for all the others it will look the other way.

[pvv113]

Kiev allowed the military to shoot down "random" aircraft

And where will they get random planes if planes do not fly over Ukraine, except for Ukrainian

[Leonid Har]

Again want to shoot down the Malaysian Boeing?

[Mentat]

Quote: vladimirw

Do not hope, they will not bomb the Kiev! one chatter, liberalists are very strong in the government of the Russian Federation

But we can hope that the autumn aggravation will pass, finally, and the forum will have fewer posts Brehderast.

[Bondik05]

Check for strength and patience. At first, the exercises and the shooting - looked at the reaction of Russia, did not rake. Now, just a little step, they will look at the reaction, then they will invent something else.