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Kiev allowed the military to shoot down "random" aircraft

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The authorities of Ukraine allowed the military to open fire on aircraft illegally crossing the state border or suspected of committing terrorist acts in the airspace of the country.


Kiev allowed the military to shoot down "random" aircraft
Ukrainian СР-125-2Д “Pechora-2Д”

"The duty forces apply weapon and military equipment after warning fire from cannon armament of duty interceptor aircraft (helicopters) to prevent violations of the state border of Ukraine by aircraft of armed formations of other states that do not execute commands (signals) of interceptor aircraft; termination of unlawful actions of aircraft, if they are used to carry out a terrorist act in the airspace of Ukraine, including in the area of ​​the antiterrorist operation, ”the resolution of the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers, published on Thursday, says.

The document gives the right to make a decision on the opening of preventive fire and fire on the purpose of "the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, the Chief of the General Staff - the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, the Commander of the Air Force or the persons performing their duties."
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  1. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 30 December 2016 09: 36
    +27
    Well, and if our aircraft is actually knocked down, then how do we respond? They don’t deliver tomatoes to us. Or is HPP applicable again? Keep silent and call for peace?
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 30 December 2016 09: 38
      +33
      Ukrainian authorities allowed the military to open fire on aircraft

      Oh e e, something alarmingly it became. what
      1. Alex20042004
        Alex20042004 30 December 2016 10: 25
        +5
        Account has long been opened!
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 30 December 2016 09: 42
      +17
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Well, and if our aircraft is actually knocked down, then how do we respond? They don’t deliver tomatoes to us. Or is HPP applicable again? Keep silent and call for peace?

      I think we will not be silent. If they knock down the plane, they will receive a response. The jumpers are screaming about Russian aggression at all corners and from every iron. So an extra "yap" on their part is like a grain of an elephant.
      1. vladimirw
        vladimirw 30 December 2016 11: 35
        +9
        Do not hope, they will not bomb the Kiev! one chatter, liberalists are very strong in the government of the Russian Federation
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 30 December 2016 11: 41
          +10
          Quote: vladimirw
          Do not hope, they will not bomb the Kiev! one chatter, liberalists are very strong in the government of the Russian Federation

          Oh how? But how, in 2014, the State Duma unanimously gave the go-ahead to the President to make an independent decision on the introduction of troops into the adjacent territory, if necessary?
          1. Egor-dis
            Egor-dis 30 December 2016 11: 56
            +6
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Quote: vladimirw
            Do not hope, they will not bomb the Kiev! one chatter, liberalists are very strong in the government of the Russian Federation

            Oh how? But how, in 2014, the State Duma unanimously gave the go-ahead to the President to make an independent decision on the introduction of troops into the adjacent territory, if necessary?

            Gave, then canceled.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 30 December 2016 12: 27
              +11
              Quote: Egor-dis

              Gave, then canceled.

              At the request of the President.
      2. Samarin
        Samarin 30 December 2016 17: 36
        +2
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Knock down the plane - get the answer

        THAN?
        sofa strategist, pi ... to put it - do not toss the bags
    3. Chertkov Oleg
      Chertkov Oleg 30 December 2016 10: 07
      +3
      Well, if our plane is actually knocked down,

      "Shooting missiles at the Crimea" was also, after all, from crackers, probably.
      1. Alex20042004
        Alex20042004 30 December 2016 10: 28
        +3
        Give the fool a glass of horseradish, he will break it!
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2016 10: 45
        +1
        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        Missile Shooting in Crimea

        What are you about?!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 30 December 2016 11: 52
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          What are you about?!!!!!!!!!!!

          This is he about "heard the ringing, but does not know where he is."
      3. Gray brother
        Gray brother 30 December 2016 11: 49
        0
        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        "Shooting missiles at the Crimea" was also, after all, from crackers, probably.

        Why then didn’t you hit?
    4. FREGATEN
      FREGATEN 30 December 2016 10: 22
      +10
      Well, what are we doing? What kind of tomatoes? This is a completely different situation .... It’s just that Ukraine will remain without a gap on the entire reach of the air defense systems of the Russian Federation ... without its one and a half aircraft remaining after the cheerful raids on the Donbass ...
    5. svp67
      svp67 30 December 2016 10: 46
      +6
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Well, and if our aircraft is actually knocked down, then how do we respond?

      It is necessary to do it now, and not when the "roast cock will bite". Of course, cover Crimea in every possible way, both from land and from the sea. Get it from the regiment and carefully study the plans of action of the government troops of Vietnam against the half-pot Kampuchea and, on their basis, prepare your plan. And, of course, to the Foreign Ministry to declare that any such attempt will be regarded by us as an ACT OF WAR.
      1. your1970
        your1970 30 December 2016 11: 30
        +3
        In general, the only thing that seemed strange to me was that they didn’t have such a situation. If you throw back the country 404 (throw repeat repeat "Ukraine" from the text) - this is a completely standard and reasonable position in force in all countries of the world that have at least some air defense, well, except that the level of decision-making has been reduced.
        That’s what to expect from the 404 country now is another question ...
    6. Olgovich
      Olgovich 30 December 2016 11: 03
      +14
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Well, and if our aircraft is actually knocked down, then how do we respond? They don’t deliver tomatoes to us. Or is HPP applicable again? Keep silent and call for peace?


      This, in fact, is about CRIMEA (they consider its airspace, for some reason, their fool ).

      By this decree they automatically outlaw and threaten dozens of civilians planes flying to the Crimea.

      Russia's answer to this challenge The ruins, I think, should be immediate, tough and not giving double interpretations. It is also necessary to warn international organizations.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 30 December 2016 11: 54
        +1
        Quote: Olgovich
        By this decree, they automatically outlaw and threaten dozens of civilian aircraft flying to Crimea.

        Dushka is not enough.
    7. drunkram
      drunkram 30 December 2016 11: 28
      0
      Where is our plane from?
  2. volodya
    volodya 30 December 2016 09: 38
    +10
    They know how to shoot down peaceful planes well!
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 December 2016 09: 38
    +1
    With these (Ukraine) it is clear. They are now not in time for Obama. On top of that, they introduce some new sanctions against Russia. The next step in unison with the owner is to send our diplomats.
    allowed the military to open fire on aircraft that violate the state border

    I wonder from which border with the western or eastern?
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 30 December 2016 09: 50
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I wonder from which border with the western or eastern?

      This is a continuation of the attempt to cover the skies over the Crimea. Remember the recent teachings.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 30 December 2016 10: 02
        +3
        I understand it. The question is purely rhetorical. Polish planes will also shoot down?
        1. AID.S
          AID.S 30 December 2016 10: 31
          0
          Polish planes do not exist. laughing So they won’t.
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 30 December 2016 19: 51
        0
        This is the beginning of the complete strangulation of the PMR.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 30 December 2016 11: 39
      +2
      From the western border, they all have their own. A master’s plane, by definition, cannot be a stranger. lol
  4. Wildowl
    Wildowl 30 December 2016 09: 42
    +2
    It’s interesting to me how many planes and whose they want to bring down and who will remain guilty. Almost no one flies above them anyway.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 30 December 2016 11: 01
      +3
      At the non-brothers "Crimea is Ukraine!" - don't forget! This is the whole point of the order, i.e. they got the right to shoot at planes in the Crimea !!! fool Dbl blt!
  5. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 30 December 2016 09: 45
    +5
    Jackals get out of their way to drag our country into a real war. Tired already
  6. DM51
    DM51 30 December 2016 09: 53
    +7
    And before the type, they shot down civil planes at their own peril and risk, without permission from the Kiev madhouse, and now, when is the official permission to unfold in full?
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 December 2016 10: 01
    +7
    Legitimate shot down civilian aircraft.
  8. Morris worm
    Morris worm 30 December 2016 10: 03
    +5
    That is, if they bring down the civilian side, then announcing that there were terrorists and separatists will relieve themselves of responsibility. Well, we look forward to New Year's provocations.
  9. ekebastus
    ekebastus 30 December 2016 10: 05
    +1
    How would they there their non-insurgents .... foolishly ...
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 30 December 2016 10: 36
      +2
      ekebastus Today, 10:05 AM
      How would they there their non-insurgents .... foolishly ...


      That would be the best option.
  10. HAM
    HAM 30 December 2016 10: 06
    +1
    I wonder if this applies to American drones? And are the yanker drones and scouts "native"! ??
    1. novel66
      novel66 30 December 2016 11: 07
      +5
      Actually, there are two questions: you voiced the first, and the second - what is the warning fire of SAM missiles?
      1. your1970
        your1970 30 December 2016 11: 36
        +1
        Quote: novel xnumx
        and the second - what is the warning light of ammunition?

        after warning fire with cannon weapons of interceptor aircraft on duty
        1. novel66
          novel66 30 December 2016 12: 28
          +3
          Do they have them ?????
  11. alavrin
    alavrin 30 December 2016 10: 09
    +2
    Well, if in a combat-ready state they have only 15-20 aircraft, the fire will probably be fired from balloons.
  12. GeorgeSev85
    GeorgeSev85 30 December 2016 10: 12
    +4
    Kiev authorities allowed the military to open fire on aircraft that violate the state border


    Well, the stump of the macaque is clear gave the order before leaving ... in every possible way to draw Russia into the bondage of the military with Ukraine. I will not be surprised at another provocation by Ukraine.
  13. viktor.
    viktor. 30 December 2016 10: 14
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    Legitimate shot down civilian aircraft.

    that's for sure, creatures can wake up until January 20!
  14. NEXUS
    NEXUS 30 December 2016 10: 21
    +4
    But was this permission not valid when the Ukrainians shot down the Boeing and dumped everything on Russia? By the way, how is the case going on to investigate the downed Boeing over the Donbass? After that, they started to impose sanctions.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 30 December 2016 10: 39
      +3
      NEXUS
      By the way, how is the case going on investigating the downed Boeing over the Donbass?


      I think that so far everything has stood still waiting for the arrival of Trump. And it may very well be that they begin to bend in the opposite direction, i.e. on ukrokaklov.
  15. perm23
    perm23 30 December 2016 10: 26
    +2
    Well, depending on where they decide. to cross their borders.
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  17. Wolka
    Wolka 30 December 2016 10: 29
    +1
    dill provocateurs, they do everything to unfasten their nettles in the ass
  18. svp67
    svp67 30 December 2016 10: 42
    +4
    The Ukrainian authorities allowed the military to open fire on aircraft illegally crossing the state border ...
    They consider Crimea their territory, and if so, then any of our aircraft flying there UNDER THREAT. Albeit hypothetical but threatening
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 30 December 2016 10: 52
    +3
    This statement is a direct provocation (they themselves would not have thought of it). It would be possible to score, do not claim Kiev that the Crimea is Ukrainian. Of course, this loud statement of real action will not follow, their military, although brainwashed, but still not suicides. There will be an exchange of notes, there will be another warning to Kiev ... Well, they want to play muscles in front of the mirror, and there is a dystrophic figure.
  20. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 30 December 2016 10: 58
    +2
    And after all, they will kill someone! They're the Monkeys ...
  21. jovanni
    jovanni 30 December 2016 11: 07
    +2
    Kiev allowed the military to shoot down "random" aircraft

    Yes, they had not steamed before, neither Kiev nor its military! Conscience does not gnaw these murderers for innocently taken lives ...
  22. Berkut24
    Berkut24 30 December 2016 11: 37
    0
    Was there permission for the downed Boeing, or is the Ukrainian air defense living its own separate life?
  23. Suharik.inline
    Suharik.inline 30 December 2016 11: 58
    +1
    "suspected of committing terrorist attacks in the airspace of the country" is a very strange wording.
    Look, that plane seemed to have done something, knock down .........
    And you.
  24. Evgen2x
    Evgen2x 30 December 2016 13: 08
    0
    They even figachat without permission, and now what will begin ???
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 30 December 2016 17: 22
      0
      They will probably be figuring their own, at the moment in the air over 404, 17 boards (fly radar), 1 board to Moscow (Chisinau-Moscow), here I would change the minibus.
  25. samarin1969
    samarin1969 30 December 2016 13: 14
    0
    At one time, "Tymchuk" sang a lot about "night helicopters" ... They can catch the border guards in the "five-second zone". There is such a mess in the politics of Ukraine and its curators that there will be reasons to shoot down a "random plane".
  26. pts-m
    pts-m 30 December 2016 13: 22
    0
    Kakhly are clever lads. They have it so, and even the popular saying says ... knock down your own, so that strangers would be afraid ...
  27. Suharik.inline
    Suharik.inline 30 December 2016 14: 34
    +1
    No, of course, I understand the protection of the country's airspace is a sacred thing.
    But there are certain procedures before you shoot.
    And if Ukraine wanted to convey something to someone, then honestly they have a very peculiar wording.
    And what is there new to invent if they already exist. Another attempt to flex your muscles and show your mind
    and so they all fly away from sin away.
    God forbid if they still land someone.
  28. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 31 December 2016 00: 30
    0
    But there was nothing for the Boeing, and impunity breeds permissiveness.
  29. Deniosf
    Deniosf 31 December 2016 00: 33
    0
    "Kiev allowed the military to shoot down" random "planes


    Why use such a covert expression? They would say frankly that "random" aircraft are Russian aircraft. Only, how would you dill then not choke in your own g ...
  30. Bering Strait
    Bering Strait 31 December 2016 00: 56
    0
    It's time to close the border with Banderostan and stop flights over its territory by Russian aircraft .... It's enough that they have already shot down the Tu-154 of Siberia Airlines.
  31. Region39
    Region39 31 December 2016 01: 21
    0
    But only Russian planes will see their air defense, for all the others it will look the other way.
  32. pvv113
    pvv113 31 December 2016 01: 25
    +2
    Kiev allowed the military to shoot down "random" aircraft

    And where will they get random planes if planes do not fly over Ukraine, except for Ukrainian
  33. Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 31 December 2016 03: 49
    0
    Again want to shoot down the Malaysian Boeing?
  34. Mentat
    Mentat 31 December 2016 15: 03
    0
    Quote: vladimirw
    Do not hope, they will not bomb the Kiev! one chatter, liberalists are very strong in the government of the Russian Federation

    But we can hope that the autumn aggravation will pass, finally, and the forum will have fewer posts Brehderast.
  35. Bondik05
    Bondik05 31 December 2016 19: 12
    0
    Check for strength and patience. At first, the exercises and the shooting - looked at the reaction of Russia, did not rake. Now, just a little step, they will look at the reaction, then they will invent something else.