Substitution ambitions

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The rally at Bolotnaya Square in Moscow, five years ago, gathered, by the most conservative estimates, 25 thousands of participants. What lessons have we learned? How has our society changed during this time? The questions remain open and require impartial analysis on the eve of the centenary of the Great October Socialist Revolution.

“Passerby” wrote on vpk-news.ru that “nothing has changed in the country: the same groups of oligarchs rule, the increasing property division between the minority and the overwhelming majority is preserved. Parasitic clans in fact do not create, but consume public funds and wealth. And the main culprit of this is a fattening executive power disinterested in development. ”



The Butterfly Effect

Another author - “Alex” believes that “Russia with 1993 is a colony in accordance with the Constitution (Art. 15, p. P. 4), which says about international norms and rules that are binding in the Russian Federation. This entails not only corruption, but also a low standard of living, the subordination of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation to the International Monetary Fund. Therefore, everything that can be controlled in the colonies (media, deputies, ministers, oligarchs, etc.) is controlled by corruption, and the “color revolutions” are a form of changing unwanted rulers. Only complete sovereignty of Russia, changes in the Constitution will allow us to become the true masters in our country, to overcome poverty. ”

“Let's be honest. Now we are heading for a world war, ”says George M. Malinetsky, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences. - Dominant, namely the United States of America, turned out to be bankrupt. The economy of loan interest is already inefficient, global GDP is 83 trillion dollars, and financial papers issued by four quadrillion. "

The US military-industrial complex requested 35 billion dollars to build the F-500 aircraft. Weapon it becomes super-expensive, to fight them to the detriment. Therefore, Americans are looking for other ways to maintain superiority, seeking to destroy subjectivity around the world.

The twentieth century with the two world wars and the global domination of the United States became golden for the world gendarme. But to repeat the success you need to put a bridle on the disobedient and obstinate, which can be done, for example, with the help of the virus Zico, which rigidly regulates the birth rate, or through chaos in the given territories.

Substitution ambitionsThe world now consumes more resources than the planet can produce. If the BRICS countries want to live by US standards, you need five such planets as the Earth, or a major technological breakthrough. Therefore, the “orange revolutions” remain the most effective means of changing the geopolitical situation. Recall: Russia before the Maidan invested 200 billion dollars in the economy of Ukraine, believing that the neighbor is not going anywhere. And the United States pumped five billions into fooling the population, preparing and carrying out a coup, which turned out to be more effective in 40.

Much still decides not money, but two key scientific achievements. The first is nonlinear dynamics. Scientists have discovered that there is a technology of so-called small effects on the population (butterfly effect). It was developed and tested in the United States, where at least 200 think tanks operate to design the future and analyze factors that change the development trajectory of a particular country. In Russia, such technologies are still at a rudimentary level and by and large are not needed, since we are not going to reshape the world for ourselves. But if we want to survive, we must know them, regularly take measurements of the moods of society.

The second is information technology. Over the 50 years of the electronic era, 250 has increased the power of computer networks billions of times, which has an impact on people's attitudes. Renowned American inventor and futurologist Ray Kurzweil believes that in the next hundred years the advanced countries will go through a technological path that previously would have taken 20 thousands of years. “Unlike the United States, Britain, France, Canada, Russia does not have a technological forecast, does not know where to go, and therefore is in Chubais, in skolkovy and other adventures,” Malinetsky said. “When Vladimir Putin was asked if he knew that the United States was holding a billion people under the hood, the president answered: I sincerely envy them, they can deal with security issues at a completely different level.”

There are such fortresses

Sociologists conducted a survey and found out which ministers we treat with sincere sympathy over the past five years. These are Sergey Shoigu and Sergey Lavrov. The rest caused rejection. It is not surprising that the president began to renew the composition of the government, starting with the most odious people. This, like some economic indicators, suggests that Russia has been engaged in surprise for many years: it stood still in the sphere of technology, education, science and therefore rolled back when the world moved forward.

Why we do not have a long-term policy in the field of science, education, even defense, judging by the failure of the LG-2025? Because there is no strategy. And it can not be without national interests that do not appear without the desired image of the future. He is in the United States, South Korea, Japan.

The president expressed a very important idea about the meanings and values ​​that should underlie the new Russia. This is a national and spiritual identity, civic engagement, responsibility towards the future, civil solidarity, justice, morality, work and creativity, mercy and sympathy. Simple, but important categories, over which none of the officials for some reason thinks too much.

In recent years, a demographic and value catastrophe has occurred in Russia. We need urgent extraordinary measures to overcome its consequences. We have a lot going on exactly the opposite. The scenario of the Orange Revolution, which was prepared by the Livanov Office and the Higher School of Economics, showed that education and science should be integrated into the Western matrix in third roles. We were prepared for the role of consumers of foreign scientific and technological achievements, but not the creators and inventors. The document did not contain a word about Western sanctions and their consequences, although this is a matter of national security. If such a program is implemented, in five years there will be no one to defend the Fatherland.

Gradually, we are inspired by the idea: we were once a great power, but now we have to accept it. Let's see how many inventions are being made in the world. In China - 1,3 million per year, in the US - half a million. In the USSR, there were 300 thousand, in Russia - ten times less. If you do not think how to stimulate innovation activity, we will remain on the outskirts of scientific and technological progress, from which is the direct path to the "orange revolution".

In the world, the average life expectancy has increased over a quarter of a century by six years, in Russia - by 1,5. This means that we are not even standing still, but are going backwards. This is also because new technologies are not being created here, machine-tool construction and pharmacology have been destroyed. We only imitate work in these areas.

The elite faces a tough choice: either the country breaks up with the remnants of subjectivity, or it defends its identity. But the basis of the new Russian elite is bureaucracy and criminality.

When the Chinese are asked why they are not afraid of the Orange Revolution, they explain: we have three fortresses — language, culture, and communist ideology. This is not a propaganda stamp. A cognitive, informational, financial war is being waged against us. To avoid the Orange Revolution, we must stop playing giveaway with the West. We must return the nation's presence of mind, but on new beliefs and principles. Naturally, with reliable geopolitical allies, attractive project of the future.

Ticket homicide

Former Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Vitaliy Zakharchenko (2011 – 2014) believes that both network-centric technologies and self-developing systems were involved for the Maidan. What it is?

Initially, a self-developing environment was formed - some public organizations that actively recruited mercenaries (today 160 thousands of NGOs operate in foreign countries for foreign grants). For this, three ideas were put forward: Ukraine is a special state that is built on the basis of its national identity, it will become stronger than Russia and will eventually win, Ukraine is anti-Russian (according to Leonid Kuchma, “not Russia”). Today, these ideas prevail in society, imposed on the media, primarily by television, through which 60 – 80 percent of the population receive information. All this is left to the financial and industrial groups headed by Kolomoisky, Akhmetov, Pinchuk, Poroshenko.

Technologies of network-centric warfare imply the destruction of state administration. And by police methods alone this cannot be prevented. Therefore, the hope for Rosgvardia, if we talk about Russia, is insignificant. “When we first created an analytical unit in the ministry’s office in 2007, the Orange had liquidated it so that the people would not understand what was happening at all,” explains Zakharchenko. - Although in the same America after the terrorist attacks of 2011, powerful analytical centers were formed. It was from this point that they started fighting terrorism and imposed their point of view on the world. ”

In the west, for centuries, colonial technologies were developed in order to keep the Aborigines under control. Russia has a different ideological matrix, its own view of war and peace.

What made a student of Moscow University run twice in the IG prohibited in our country? The whole administration of the universities struggled for it, but a group of mojaheds managed to leave the state and public organizations in the cold. Is it because an alien ideology has already penetrated into our lives?

President of the Academy of Military Sciences, Army General Makhmut Gareyev gives an example. In the exam ticket stories the question is asked: “What are the most important events in the 1943 year?” Possible answers: they shot all German prisoners of war, introduced shoulder straps, etc. It is implied that the battle of Stalingrad ended on the 2 of February of 1943 in February, and the schoolchildren did not necessarily know the final turning point in the war in the summer. This is how the young people fool around, their historical matrix is ​​being replaced. So we are killed by weapons of cognitive war.

Now about half of the citizens are deprived of sources of development, have the opportunity to earn only for food. The financing of vital activity of the most important structures has been completely stopped, which causes protest moods. The government is trying to replenish the budget and correct mistakes in economic policy at the expense of the most vulnerable categories. 30 – 50 of millions of the disadvantaged is the most gracious environment for the “color revolutions”.

The expert of the Academy of Military Sciences, Vladimir Prokvapilov, believes that some regions of Russia are already mastering Maidan technologies. The specificity of the moment is that, due to the growing neurotization of the population, social protest can suddenly flare up or be provoked anywhere. Or detonated by a criminal rebellion, as evidenced by the frequent in the megalopolises of the performances of ethnic groups, the confrontation of guest workers from the Caucasus, as it was at the Moscow cemetery.

A replay of the rehearsal of revolutionary jihad is not ruled out, as it was in the autumn of 2013 in Tatarstan, where Orthodox churches were set on fire first, and then a petrochemical plant was shelled. The reconnaissance took place in neighboring Kazakhstan, for which deliberately unprofessional performers were used, and in Kyrgyzstan, a suicide bomber on the instructions of the IG sent a car stuffed with TNT to the embassy of the PRC.

In the 2018 year in the military-industrial complex of Russia, the period of validity of the state defense certificate ends, and directors of some enterprises seriously fear a repetition of Novocherkassk events in such cities as Samara, Ufa, Ryazan, Nizhny Tagil. We need to look for solutions in advance, but not with the help of the Rosguards.

The primary measures to be taken are on the surface:

to begin a cardinal change in the country's socio-economic course, which should be oriented towards its development;
step up the policy of systemic modernization of the domestic economy and import substitution;
to limit the right to influence the masses of the "fifth column", which came to power structures and the media on the wave of Western populism and liberalism;
return all state foreign assets under Russian jurisdiction;
introduce a progressive tax system and a state monopoly on alcohol;
to plant all those who have gone too far and have lost the sense of proportion of officials


Supported by the people, these measures will provide a reliable barrier to the "color revolutions", will allow to consolidate society, give impetus to the strengthening of the country's defense power.
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  1. +4
    7 December 2016 15: 26
    according to conservative estimates, 25 thousand.
    Here I am about this rally, although I have lived all my life in Moscow and haven’t heard of it until the media started promoting it. The question is, what kind of audience gathered there? Probably in social networks (I don’t know, I’m not registered there), a fairly large group of "interests" will gather, but 25 thousand is more likely to be paid for by the "Maidan" by foreign funds.
    1. +4
      7 December 2016 15: 42
      Was to become, but quickly disappeared. The protesters themselves were about 15 thousand, spectators (how it will all end), just walking (by themselves) and passing on the square in passing (about their business) about 7 thousand and journalists from 500 to 1000. But the "unwilling" counted everyone as protesters ...
      1. +1
        8 December 2016 10: 32
        Supported by the people, these measures will provide a reliable barrier to the "color revolutions", will allow to consolidate society, give impetus to the strengthening of the country's defense power.

        Well, yes, did these measures greatly help Libya?
    2. +2
      7 December 2016 16: 13
      What to do? the author of the article poses a question You won’t get into people's brains, you won’t take away the Internet from a foolish girl of Igilov’s bride - only punitive measures.
      But about the quote "(today in a neighboring country 160 thousand NGOs operate on foreign grants)," the author obviously turned it down. This is an astronomical figure for ukrobanderovschina. At least zero is superfluous.
      1. 0
        8 December 2016 04: 47
        Before the first Maidan and further until 2013, in Ukraine, according to unofficial estimates, there were about 1000 organizations, foundations and various structures for every taste (roughly speaking, from vegetarians to ham lovers). And they were all funded from abroad, which by definition means destructive activity. 160 thousand, and even 16000, this is certainly too much, but just think, 1000 funded organizations that work for the collapse of the country. Most importantly, the State Department does not hide this. And for 25 years they succeeded in Ukraine. I can imagine how many of these work in Russia.
  2. +2
    7 December 2016 15: 26
    I knew it, everything was gone ...! Oh!
    1. +11
      7 December 2016 15: 27
      Take off your pink glasses, look at REAL life.
      1. +4
        7 December 2016 16: 49
        There are two views on life, bees and flies. You, comrade, seem to be from the second.
        1. +8
          7 December 2016 17: 10
          Respected...
          The difference is that turning a blind eye to all the nonsense that is happening now and saying that everything is fine with us is even worse.
          There is "everything is lost", and there is reasonable criticism - and if you don't see the difference between them - that's your mental problem.
          1. +3
            8 December 2016 21: 21
            There is really a lot of nonsense going on now. But to notice exclusively negative things is also not right, and I haven’t noticed positive comments from you yet. Something like this.
            1. 0
              8 December 2016 22: 56
              But somehow I do not try to shout approvals left and right.
              If there is something good - I’ll say, but if someone stupidly shouts ERnachecio - then fire ...
    2. 0
      7 December 2016 20: 46
      You are right, it’s not lost yet, but it’s going to that. Open your eyes wider.
  3. +12
    7 December 2016 15: 26
    Excellent article!
    To the Kremlin, Putin.
    It’s a pity, just ANYONE there, on top of IT is not necessary!
    1. +3
      7 December 2016 15: 44
      Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
      It’s a pity, just ANYONE there, on top of IT is not necessary!

      Have you personally been told about this? Or did you try to forward the article and you were refused? Or were you trying to get an appointment, but they sent you?
      1. +5
        7 December 2016 15: 48
        I won’t even answer
        1. 0
          8 December 2016 12: 00
          But because there is nothing to say!
      2. Alf
        0
        7 December 2016 20: 15
        Quote: Homo
        Or did you try to forward the article and you were refused?

        If you write a letter of GDP to Kremlin.ru, then you can be sure that your letter will not go directly to the president, but to his office, and then they will decide whether to give him a move. In any case, you will be sent a standard reply that your appeal has been received.
        I am ashamed not to know such simple things.
        1. +3
          7 December 2016 23: 47
          aahhh! urgent need to write to the King! otherwise he doesn’t know what the boyars do, how the people live.
          moreover, send a letter must be registered, with a receipt of delivery. otherwise God forbid ... they’ll lose, they will not reach the address.

          but when the king finds out the truth, then he .... then he will show it to the boyars! then there will be paradise on earth, more precisely in one separate state.

          all the problems: it is necessary to convey the truth to the king. Volunteers! ay! where are you?
        2. 0
          8 December 2016 12: 02
          Quote: Alf
          I am ashamed not to know such simple things.

          But it’s not a shame. I wrote and they answered me and not just answered, but helped to solve my problem.
  4. +9
    7 December 2016 15: 27
    And who came to the Swamp area? They came not at the command of the heart, but for paying for this visit from NPO (American) funds. Loafers have come who don’t want to work. I have the honor.
    1. +4
      7 December 2016 20: 58
      In Kiev, a mass of people came out, under the cover of which the Maidan took place. Why do you think that the people brought to complete hopelessness will not enter our squares, and there, thousands of militants will come out hiding behind them. Now the devil knows what is happening in the Urals, dozens, if not hundreds of different NGOs work there. And they do not work for the unity of Russia and for the good of the people of Russia. In Tatarstan, this is happening. And the authorities pretend that everything is quiet, but smooth. And what kind of power is this, a swindler on a swindler and chasing bribes.
      When telesports gatherings condemn corruption in Ukraine, and rightly so, it asks to replace Ukraine with Russia. It’s just that we still have the bowels, and honest techies who plow for the good of the people. And the top, that the liberoid part of the government, that the Uriah-patriotic sees all its aspirations for the future in voluptuous unity with the West (in the form of bedding at the threshold for wiping dirty feet). True, they still hope. that they will be accepted into their own, albeit not close circle. And in vain the West will blow you, guys, and you won’t have time to come to your senses if you ruin Russia, as the Union was ruined.
  5. +11
    7 December 2016 15: 30
    I fully agree with the author. Only the first paragraph should be: "The introduction of the death penalty for those guilty of the theft of public funds with the defeat of the next of kin and the confiscation of property .. Rodnya itself will scatter from such a" breadwinner "
    1. +5
      7 December 2016 17: 38
      An interesting passage in the article - officials stealing in moderation and taking loyal bribes to leave alone. Oh how!
  6. +2
    7 December 2016 15: 42
    Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
    Take off your pink glasses, look at REAL life.

    Well, took off! You’ll work better and will become more, from that?

    Stop sprinkling your head ...
    Give positive examples! And they are!
    Built .. worked a lot. They began to live well / better !!!
    By the way. in foreign media, the negative about their countries is not an example less.
    You think there’s nothing to write about, is everything wonderful?
    It’s like we started in Perestroika ... they still can’t stop everything!
    1. +6
      7 December 2016 15: 48
      Unlike theoretically, I work in REAL production and see the whole picture with my own eyes.
      1. 0
        7 December 2016 16: 05
        If you, as you say, are working in REAL production, you must be realistic, in this case. If you really look at things (without replenishment on the part of the media) - why did your life so many times fail that it became unbearable again, and you have to go back to Bolotnaya?
        PS Yes, and last time there was no "unbearable" - it was not actually.
        1. +16
          7 December 2016 16: 26
          Point number one time - I do not call to go to the Swamp. I am generally opposed to all kinds of revolutions and upheavals - the result may be like in Ukraine.
          Now let's talk seriously, if interested.
          So, we are not able to produce modern means of production, such as metallurgical furnaces, rolling mills, forging and pressing equipment, metalworking equipment, thermal equipment. From what is in the "joint" enterprises - almost all of the element base - imported. If something is released, this is the minimum - the previous generation. Those. there are no prerequisites for a technological leap.
          Further. Beginning in September - look at the bills from EdRa and the government - practically everything is aimed at "honestly taking money from the population." Yes, the same Plato system - raise tariffs on it - guess where it will lead.
          Pharmacology - it is NOT FAVORABLE to produce domestic medicines! We use import.
          Fuel. Excise taxes go up, and at the same time, before sowing and harvesting, the "market law dictates" to raise prices - which will affect the price of the final product. Plus resellers.
          Sanctions. I'm not talking about jamon, but about the sale of technological equipment.
          Salary level: not rising, unlike prices.
          And one defense industry is no longer able to pull industry out of the crisis. In addition, look at the level of salaries in the workplace. Phrase: I do not like it - look for another job now I hear more often than ever.
          University graduates come with almost a negative, even not zero, level of knowledge.
          Yes, no, everything is fine with us.
          You hold on!
          1. +2
            7 December 2016 16: 49
            My friends at the factory work. Get 40k per month. They say they do not have enough for a living.
            1. +9
              7 December 2016 16: 54
              40 thousand in 2013 and 40 thousand in 2016 are different 40 thousand.
              Why do we work? What to eat, to receive certain pleasures from life. And now 40 thousand is the maintenance of pants, and if there are children in the family, then there is really not enough.
              In Moscow time, for example, in order for a family with two children to live normally, the monthly income should be at least 120 thousand.
              When money starts to run out - you start to "tighten" your belt - the question is, are we offered to work for food? And I'm not talking about some kind of abstruse products.
              1. 0
                7 December 2016 18: 34
                Well ... everyone has different concepts, it's normal to live. 40k is not enough for someone ... but for someone their eyes are enough.
                1. +8
                  7 December 2016 18: 39
                  Hmm ... maybe so, someone has bread and water, while someone has small caviar.
                  But I'm talking about something else. Eat meat, poultry, fruits and vegetables. Have the opportunity to go on a family vacation on the sea (in Russia). Buy clothes, not every week, but nevertheless do not go in one socks for six months. Have the opportunity to go to cinemas, theaters. At least once a month.
                  Did I write something beyond the limits?
                2. 0
                  8 December 2016 06: 01
                  I do not live in Moscow, but in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. So, 40000 r is enough for a communal apartment, repayment of a loan (and without a loan, it is extremely difficult to buy anything now) and for food. It remains a little on clothes that you do not buy every day or month. In order to put off a penny, this penny does not remain. hi
            2. +11
              7 December 2016 18: 34
              40 thousand is another wow, what a factory salary! I've been working at the plant all my life (Chelyabinsk), and I know that for one with a salary of 40t.r at least 4-5 with a salary of 20t.r and Vpn VVP came to ChTPZ, they showed it 100 times a day on all channels of the zomboyaschika, it was disgusting to see who knows all this factory "kitchen" from the inside.
            3. 0
              7 December 2016 23: 21
              And I have a deal well if 20 sput. will come out, and all gray, and until retirement 8 years left ...
        2. +1
          7 December 2016 21: 01
          And who tells you that you need to arrange swamps? But the country needs to get rid of bloodsucking parasites. But how to get rid of them is a big question. There are too many of them, and even more small things close to the feeders, which will stand behind their breadwinners by a mountain.
  7. +5
    7 December 2016 15: 50
    Yes, that's right, everything needs to be done. But, the author did not mention the main thing. No one will do anything. Why? But because no one is doing anything now and did not do yesterday. Why did you decide what will be done tomorrow?
    Why not? Turn towards the Kremlin and address the question there. Have you answered? Oh well...
    1. cap
      +2
      7 December 2016 16: 01
      Quote: erased
      But, the author did not mention the main thing. No one will do anything. Why? But because no one is doing anything now and did not do yesterday. Why did you decide what will be done tomorrow?


      Took off the tongue.
  8. +3
    7 December 2016 16: 37
    Dreams, dreams, Where is your sweetness?

    It is necessary to eliminate the liberals, who are - all polls - paid pindo-gauleiters, fulfilling the orders of our permanent enemies. RUSNANO and Skorlkovo are the creations of the liberals. And there is no need to repress anyone - just check the finances of these structures - and it will immediately turn out that their whole head is criminal robbers.
  9. +1
    7 December 2016 17: 39
    “Let's be honest. Now we are heading for a world war, ”says George M. Malinetsky, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences. - Dominant, namely the United States of America, turned out to be bankrupt. The economy of loan interest is already inefficient, global GDP is 83 trillion dollars, and financial papers issued by four quadrillion. "

    hi
    The model of growth economies of the WTO countries has long rested in resource limits, they do not know how otherwise, and overcoming these two limitations is possible only in two ways.
    1. The collapse of Russia and the assimilation of 99% of all resources by global corporations, and all the same, after 40 years, they again will rest in delimiting their own model, including for environmental reasons.
    2. The third world war, but not according to model 1 and 2, but according to the model of the Napoleonic wars, for a thermonuclear collision is the end of the entire biosphere. And here there will be an almost 100% collision only between the air forces of different units, including the Russian Federation, and the collision of the US and British Navy with China on the Australia-Africa axis, because China also wants its piece from the lands that De Beers milks in Angola, and in other parts of the black continent
    (((bloody minerals used in the production of intel-AMD CPUs, including on the architecture AWP-bitten apple))),
    for there is no land war in Russia in the south where, but possibly only in Kaliningrad, the new Polish-Lithuanian elite is grown there, well, the descendants of the Prussian elite are not far behind, and the Fed-England-Switzerland will not spare any money for that.
  10. +4
    7 December 2016 17: 58
    I agree with the author. A plus. If you wear pink glasses, then what Oleg Falichev wrote will be. The president cannot in every case interfere in the processes of production, science, etc. There should be a working team. And before the elections, you often hear- "And I do not care!" That's who we ourselves chose and got. You cannot withdraw yourself.
  11. +4
    7 December 2016 18: 01
    “Let's be honest. Now we are going to a world war, ”says Georgy Malinetskiy, doctor of physical and mathematical sciences. - The dominant, namely the United States of America, turned out to be bankrupt. The economy of loan interest is already ineffective, global GDP is 83 trillion dollars, and financial papers issued for four quadrillion. " $ 4 !!!

    Economic efforts and even super-efforts cannot get out of this green swamp, only through war. The whole question is what and on what scale, with what losses and for whom?
    If you notice, and VO contributes to this, the world is overloaded with weapons and weapons of murder and destruction, but this is not enough. Everywhere a new thing is created with the tendency to create super, and ideally absolute weapons. In fact, another author is already at war, in another article, this confirms.
    In these conditions, it is necessary to bring the population of the Russian Federation into a jittery, so that it begins to think and act adequately to reality, in which the enemies of Russia are extremely uninterested. They rely heavily on information-psychological weapons, which have won victories more than once, including over Russia. The country's leadership, and especially the Commander in Chief, is obliged to show political will. Otherwise, at least it will happen again on June 22, 1945 ...
    See the root.
    1. 0
      8 December 2016 04: 58
      Why did such a terrible thing happen on June 22, 1945? belay how did you cedar write in your comment? request
      1. 0
        8 December 2016 04: 59
        You, this, sometimes read what you write - tear your eyes from the roots occasionally. smile
  12. 0
    7 December 2016 18: 11
    Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
    Point number one time - I do not call to go to the Swamp. I'm generally an opponent of all sorts of revolutions
    So, we are not able to produce modern means of production, such as metallurgical furnaces, rolling mills, forging and pressing equipment, metalworking equipment, thermal equipment. From what is in the "joint" enterprises - almost all of the element base - imported. If something is released, this is the minimum - the previous generation. Those. there are no prerequisites for a technological leap.!


    And why, as in the USSR, strive to produce everything? At the same time, it is not applicable at the forefront of the industry!
    WHAT FOR? The navel will not unleash against the whole world .. as before. And we, just 140 million people.
    The Germans do not produce military aircraft. Think random?
    Here they make cars, world class fighters - they can’t!
    And how many countries are holodrans, developed by the so-called can afford it ??
    Maybe that's why they bow to anyone who whitens them.
    Remind me how long Hitler occupied the floor of Europe !?
    And such examples are darkness. And we are out of habit .. all by ourselves .. WHY?
    There is of course military and food safety, this is understandable.
    1. +7
      7 December 2016 18: 26
      State security: military, medical, food, information.
      So we are releasing weapons, not a question. Not all, we have fewer ships than tanks, but nonetheless. Missiles, airplanes, small arms. Ammunition.
      Medical. I do not call for the release of ALL medical equipment, although of course I would like to, but the pharmacology should be domestic. Not this way?
      Food. There are no comments. But ... the tractor and civil aviation should be OWN, Greenhouses - and this is the glass industry, refractory.
      Informational. Do you seriously think that there are no "bookmarks" in computers? :)
      Not funny.
      Further. Light industry. It is not just clothes. Energy, transport. Where do you suggest trimming? Not only is our car industry in anu ... ce, so what else to remove?
      Do you know that in 5 years we will not be able to melt the banal stainless steel ourselves? We use imported metalworking programs - and this is dying off. If you don’t use any organ, it dies!
      What do you propose to kill?
      We buy paper from our tree in Finland ...
      The cost of producing a liter of gasoline is higher than in the EU - where is the savings? The resource is not infinite.
      Where to contract?
      I am not a perfectionist, but I believe that the country must FULLY know what it should produce and what to purchase.
      1. 0
        7 December 2016 19: 37
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        What do you propose to kill?

        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        State security: military, medical, food, information.

        Totally and completely agree with you! It’s surprising to ask some commentators like, why should we produce anything at all? what From the same opera, like the slogan of the 90s: the market will fix everything, put it in place! Yeah, I arranged it so that it’s easier to list what is left than what was ditched!
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        Medical. I do not call for the release of ALL medical equipment, although of course I would like to, but the pharmacology should be domestic. Not this way?

        Vital medicines, i.e. those without whom certain categories of people cannot live, but how many of this list are domestic? That's it, but the market has placed, to the delight of the liberals!
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        Do you know that in 5 years we will not be able to melt the banal stainless steel ourselves?

        Tu-160M2. They start by collecting technology, documentation on titanium and the production of the central fuselage beam, because while “the market put everything in its place”, the documentation “was gone,” the equipment (unique) was torn apart! And if nothing is found for this basic fuselage structure, then they will have to start from scratch, but with whom? On what? But what can I say, about 160 organizations and enterprises from the WHOLE Union were involved in the production of the Tu-700! Including Kharkov, Kiev , Tashkent aircraft factories. In Kazan, they made the center section, the fuselage and assembled the car. Everything else was transported from all over the Union. And this is the situation in many industries! Yes, the "market people and reformers" did their best, if there are still people who ask the question, why do we need all this? request
        1. 0
          8 December 2016 08: 48
          Quote: Vladislav 73
          Tu-160M2. They start with the "world on a string" ...

          Not as an excuse. Degradation is a universal misfortune. For example, now neither we nor the Americans will actually be able to implement space programs of the 60s or develop and produce aircraft like the B52 or Tu160 - we will not pull it because it is economically difficult (although this too), but because of the collapsed engineering schools. No specialists. Everything needs to be recreated.
          1. 0
            8 December 2016 16: 14
            Quote: trantor
            we’ll not pull it because it’s economically difficult (although this too), but because of the ruined engineering schools. No specialists. Everything needs to be recreated.

            There will be no one to create something soon. To listen to university professors, what "products" of the Unified State Exam come ... and then come to production! belay Why create high-tech equipment, if there is no one to maintain it? Recently, by the way, there was an article here on VO, "The most terrible military secret of Russia." The conclusion from that article looks to put it mildly quite bleak: "Tomorrow, and even more so the day after tomorrow, we will need personnel, who can at least replace us. And in theory - go beyond us. But the brain-killing system did its job. "The victims of the exam" will not replace us. They will not invent, develop, build, debug.
            So weird to be honest. All my life we ​​believed that we would fight with the US Department of Defense. And the Russian Ministry of Education almost won us. "
      2. 0
        8 December 2016 08: 53
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        I am not a perfectionist, but I believe that the country must FULLY know what it should produce and what to purchase.

        And there’s nothing to know: all that a country can do is itself. If production is possible, but not currently established, then you can buy temporarily. But at the same time attend to production.
        1. 0
          8 December 2016 21: 36
          I’ll interfere in your intelligent conversation and add that my family uses Russian-produced drugs imported from Belgorod or LPR and they are better than Ukrainian in quality. All kinds of ointments from varicose veins, for example.
          Nevertheless, it is not necessary to produce everything, there were German medicines and will be better than Russian / Ukrainian, and there is nothing you can do about it - they have Tsyvilizatsyya three steps higher.
  13. +5
    7 December 2016 18: 52
    The most reliable barrier to “color revolutions is the transition to a new state system - socialism (taking into account the mistakes of the Soviet Union), the nationalization of strategic sectors of the economy, the elimination of private ownership of the means of production. It is necessary to change the ideology (not superficial, official-patriotic), the state system, the mobilization economy and the preparation of the country for a possible global war. Perhaps only a blind man does not see the growing possibility of such a war. We need to cleanse society from top to bottom. And the cessation of any obsessive attempts at reconciliation from above between the red and the whites. This is done with the aim of legalizing what was "acquired by overwork" since 1991 under the slogan of maintaining stability. All these large-scale events are possible only under socialism, as well as if the country's leader and his team have political will.
    1. +2
      7 December 2016 20: 40
      Quote: den-protector
      We need to cleanse society from top to bottom. And the cessation of any obsessive attempts at reconciliation from above between the red and the whites. This is done with the aim of legalizing what was "acquired by overwork" since 1991 under the slogan of maintaining stability. All these large-scale events are possible only under socialism, as well as if the country's leader and his team have political will.

      The guarantor said that there would be no revision of the results of the privatization of the 90s! And now, what kind of wave of privatization is already underway?
  14. +3
    7 December 2016 19: 01
    A good article, relevant, for the current site is rare. It is seen that for some commentators beyond perception.
    Today, the most valuable resource is fools, and since they are rarely born in nature, only a fraction of a percent, then the production of fools must be put on the conveyor. Today, the work of this conveyor begins with a kindergarten. And so step by step. Public opinion management technology is one of these stages. Well, on the back further.
  15. +2
    7 December 2016 19: 25
    A funeral article, you have to be more fun, then we’ll live better ...
  16. 0
    7 December 2016 21: 09
    Quote: Vladislav 73
    Informational. Do you seriously think that there are no "bookmarks" in computers? :)
    Not funny.

    Who said meow !?
    He was puzzled, he answered himself!
    1. 0
      8 December 2016 16: 25
      I was now wondering where it is, in what comment I said it? Where did they pull it out ??? I specially reviewed it, didn’t find it .... belay Yes, you are a magician, you yourself said for a person, then you yourself commented ....
      Quote: VladimS
      He was puzzled, he answered himself!

      Where am I so perplexed that it is already interesting to myself! request
  17. +1
    7 December 2016 23: 14
    The constitution must be changed first!
  18. +1
    8 December 2016 08: 40
    to plant all presumptuous, having lost a sense of proportion of officials ...

    ... confiscate property, and unsuitable immediately dismissed from their posts.
    I would put this point first. Nothing causes more indignation among people than "misunderstandings" with the rules according to which the authorities play and disappointed expectations. More than enough of both has accumulated.
  19. +2
    8 December 2016 16: 10
    Quote: NordUral
    When telesports gatherings condemn corruption in Ukraine, and rightly so, it asks to replace Ukraine with Russia

    V. V. Putin: "People (in Ukraine) are tired of poverty, of the rudeness of the authorities, of their irrepressible greed, of corruption, of the oligarchs who have climbed into power."

    If you replace "Ukraine" with "Russia", everything falls into place. Yes
    1. 0
      8 December 2016 21: 54
      Zhirinovsky more pleasant to listen to)
  20. 0
    9 December 2016 10: 28
    Quote: Vladislav 73
    Where am I so perplexed that it is already interesting to myself!

    What (was) written with a pen, you can’t even cut down topo ... by editing! wink
  21. 0
    11 December 2016 18: 44
    Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
    Excellent article!
    To the Kremlin, Putin.
    It’s a pity, just ANYONE there, on top of IT is not necessary!

    Immediately obvious, self-taught! You for certain know that - it is not necessary ..!?
    So leave the house and 20 reasons you will find something to dig into! Very significant.
  22. 0
    11 December 2016 21: 41
    Quote: den-protector
    Need a purge of society from top to bottom. And the cessation of all obsessive attempts at reconciliation from above red and white.

    Who do we start with? From you? Shall we clean it or go straight to the "expense" ?!
    Maybe then others will understand what exactly such a "cleaning"
    and our sworn friends are waiting. There is nothing better for them than a civil massacre in a country, anyone.