In Moscow and St. Petersburg, 10 militants were detained for preparing terrorist attacks

The FSB announced the detention of 10 people suspected of preparing terrorist attacks in Moscow and St. Petersburg. This was reported in the department’s press release to RT.
According to updated data, the group planned to commit terrorist acts using machine guns and explosives in crowded places.

"The activities of an interregional terrorist group consisting of people from Central Asian countries who planned to carry out a series of resonant sabotage and terrorist acts in the city of Moscow and the city of St. Petersburg, have been stopped," the ministry said.

During the searches, four improvised fire bombs were seized from the detainees. weapon and ammunition.

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[Hunt]

Close the borders! Introduce a visa regime, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kyrgyz, etc. - must pass through a hard visa regime! My region borders on Kazakhstan, and so, the borders are simple - the lines on the map, I'm on the hunt, with weapons in my hands on the quadric, I crossed it here and there three times, by accident. Well, what kind of dive? Where would they be caught?

[Yeraz]

Quote: Hunter

Introduce a visa regime, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kyrgyz, etc. - must pass through a hard visa regime!

Here you are naive. The North Caucasians make terrorist attacks. And the North Caucasians also muddle the head of other visitors. Therefore, sort it out inside, not looking outside, especially not looking for those))

[Hunt]

Firstly, not you but you, this news is far from fresh, the attack was prepared by immigrants from Central Asia! With our northern Caucasus, we somehow figure it out without the prompts of Azerbaijanis!

[Bloodsucker]

Quote: Hunter

somehow we will understand without the prompts of the Azerbaijanis!

Absolutely right.
Now there are a lot of such inciting people, they also need a mess in the country, or even better, to poison one on another, dreamers from the West, even though this one is broadcasting from "Azerbadzhan" ..

[Yeraz]

Quote: The Bloodthirster

Now there are a lot of such inciting people, they also need a mess in the country, or even better, to poison one on another, dreamers from the West, even though this one is broadcasting from "Azerbadzhan" ..

Write the name of the country with a capital letter this time.
Secondly, I am a resident of the Russian Federation and his citizen, and not of the first generation, we Leningrad defended all relatives.
And I, as a resident of St. Petersburg, have exactly the same chances of exploding in the subway or in a shopping center, like a Russian or someone else, and therefore I stop nonsense theory or shooting at the wrong people, missing the main ones. And while being a Muslim, I better know who radical in the Islamic environment, who is muddying anyone's head and where. Therefore, it is better to listen to my advice than to be guided by stereotypes and just reading a news feed to draw unambiguous conclusions.
People like you were sitting in a cafe and drinking coffee calmly, when in St. Petersburg in the beginning, the creation of Isil openly raised money to help fighters for faith from the Islamic State. I knew about this, but you could not even imagine.
For some reason, the FSB did nothing, only then they covered everything.

[Yeraz]

Quote: Hunter

First not you

Approx.

Quote: Hunter

this news is far from fresh, the attack was prepared by immigrants from Central Asia! With our northern Caucasus, we somehow figure it out without the prompts of Azerbaijanis!

I am Russian and live in Russia and with the same success as you can explode with others.
And unlike YOU, I’m a Muslim Shiite and I know perfectly well who and whom is bothering my head. This infection came to Azerbaijan from the North Caucasus and the Central Asians are being drawn into Wahhabism by the North Caucasians. And the local Azerbaijani population of Russia is actively drawn into Wahhabi, except for the Talysh part Azerbaijanis, where Shiism and Shamkirtsev are strong. And all the rest, or rather the children who moved to the 90s, are well recruited.

And the problem is in the North Caucasus.

[Bloodsucker]

Quote: Yeraz

I am Russian and live in Russia and with the same success as you can explode with others.

So live, but don’t gurgle any nonsense here.
And you shouldn’t unleash your dismantlings of Sunnis and Shiites in Russia. Second, if you are a citizen of Russia, then decide who you serve, whose citizen you are and whose interests are more important to you, Azerbaijan or Russia.
By the way, I remind you that there was no such ethnic group as Azerbaijanis until the 20s of the 20th century, so study who created you.
Just as one of the Azerbaijanis behaves in Russia, it is clear where they crawl in there, so they will cover him there, regardless of whether he is a citizen of the Russian Federation, he disguised himself or was some other kind of migrant without a homeland and the right to do something here.
So keep quiet about the North Caucasus, not for you to judge us.

[Yeraz]

Quote: The Bloodthirster

So live, but don’t gurgle any nonsense here.

You can gurgle, I say. And bring the arguments normal, not blah blah.

Quote: The Bloodthirster

And it’s not worth it to unleash your dismantlings of Sunnis and Shiites in Russia

It was necessary to think this before climbing into the conflict of Shiites and Sunnis on a state scale and inciting it in the Russian Federation itself.

Quote: The Bloodthirster

.second, if you are a citizen of Russia, then decide who you serve, whose citizen you are and whose interests are more important to you, Azerbaijan or Russia.

The benefit of such a choice is not before me. If I get up and I choose Azerbaijan, I will tear my red passport and leave.

Quote: The Bloodthirster

By the way, I remind you that there was no such ethnic group as Azerbaijanis until the 20s of the 20th century, so study who created you.

It’s good that you know about it. It's just that 90% don’t know and I'm too lazy to explain to everyone that we are TURKS. And no one created us, we were always Turks, just 1 Georgian tried to turn everyone into Azerbaijanis. An Azerbaijani is the same as a Russian, local peoples in Azerbaijan call us Turks and even Armenians call us only Turks among themselves.

Quote: The Bloodthirster

So keep quiet about the North Caucasus, not for you to judge us.

A bunch of nonsense was written without a single argument. I am an Azerbaijani and live in an Islamic environment and I see who pulls whom and how, but just don’t gurgle, do not go there. There is nothing more to say ????

[210ox]

It is necessary to introduce the death penalty up to the article for preparing terrorist acts. The houses of terrorists should be demolished by their mother-relatives in concentration camps - they are stopudov’s accomplices! And you don’t have to teach me morality! A difficult working week turned out to be ... yes, it’s reported from the FSB officers as well ..

[pv1005]

Quote: 210ox

It is necessary to introduce the death penalty up to the article for preparing terrorist acts. The houses of terrorists should be demolished by their mother-relatives in concentration camps - they are stopudov’s accomplices! And you don’t have to teach me morality! A difficult working week turned out to be ... yes, it’s reported from the FSB officers as well ..

You better learn geography. And how are you going to demolish houses in another sovereign state? Israel should not be given as an example.

[210ox]

Are you sure that they have not moved here? Together with all the "belongings" And I learned geography forty years ago ..

[Boa kaa]

Quote: pv1005

Israel should not be given as an example.

And here you are extremely wrong ... One should learn from the God-chosen ones the uncompromising and inevitability of retribution for a perfect crime!
They found and resolved ALL terrorists who blew up the airliner with their Olympians in 1972

[mr.redpartizan]

There was a helicopter.

[Orionvit]

The death penalty should not be introduced, but the stupid moratorium introduced by the Yeltsin liberals to please the West should be abolished. Question. Why keep alive more than 10000 sentenced to life imprisonment for especially grave ones? This is a ready army of garbage without moral principles, ready for anything. So someone needs them?

[your1970]

Orionvit
on the one hand, they are on the other hand a man shot for Chikatilo’s crimes.

[AUL]

Why keep alive more than 10000 sentenced to life imprisonment for especially grave ones? This is a ready army of garbage without moral principles, ready for anything. So someone needs them?

1. This army of garbage will never leave their "barracks".
2. For a long time they do not linger in these barracks - I die quickly for some reason.
3. I think that the majority of those there are hungry for death, as freedom, because freedom does not shine for them.
But I would return the death penalty, so as not to be spent on the content of this abomination.

[Lelek]

Quote: 210ox

.Terror houses to demolish mother

How! Pralna, 9-storey building - to an edreny hair dryer, the city is in dust and - silence, only "tymoshenko" on the sidelines with braids .... The beauty.

[fif21]

Quote: Yeraz

Here you are naive. Terrorist attacks are made by the North Caucasians

The Russian language is written-immigrants of the Central Asian region! It is impossible to suppose that these scum would incite ethnic hatred. They were detained in Crimea, in St. Petersburg, and how many more "sleeping" ones? Apply Israel's Experience? His family is responsible for the terrorist's affairs, and his property is destroyed. I think this is fair!

[Yeraz]

Quote: fif21

The Russian language is written-immigrants of the Central Asian region! It is impossible to suppose that these scum would incite ethnic hatred

And I tell you, fight with the cause, not the consequences. All Central Asians, Azerbaijanis, etc. in Wahhabis fall into Russia by being drawn in by the North Caucasians. They do not come here as radicals, but in the majority they become here. This infection has also come to Azerbaijan from the North Caucasus.

[avt]

Quote: Yeraz

Therefore, understand it inside, and not looking outside, especially not looking for those at all)

The Hizbuttahrirites were swept up, and this is not the Kazakh Wahhabis.

[Asadullah]

Hizbuttahrirovites swept over, and this is not the Kazakh Wahhabis

There is no difference. Hizb ut-Tahrir is a global organization. This is the difference between Wahhabism, which does not stick out some pan-Islamic aspirations, but returns Muslims to the fold of Salafi, using a violent method. That is, nothing prevents the Wahhabis from living according to Salafi in their village, and the Takriers desperately need to unite all Muslims into the Caliphate. The calculation is to unite the ummah of Muslims in each state and to tear the entire ummah from the state, creating a virtual caliphate with a silent glanders, and in the long run a real caliphate. From the point of view of Hizb-ut-Tahrir, the Wahhabi village, a ready-made unit of the Caliphate.

[Yeraz]

Quote: avt

The Hizbuttahrirites were swept up, and this is not the Kazakh Wahhabis.

But the terrorist attacks in Russia are made by the Wazhabi of Kazakhstan.

[Drzed]

kindle however

[Bykov.]

Good luck! No panic!

[SPB.RU]

So we have no border with Kazakhstan. And in the Caspian, too, a distinction has recently been made.

[pv1005]

Quote: SPB.RU

So we have no border with Kazakhstan. And in the Caspian, too, a distinction has recently been made.

You still do not tell this nonsense to anyone, they will make fun of you. Unlike the country 404, we have a complete order with Kazakhstan. International treaties on the delimitation and demarcation of borders have long been concluded. Crossing the border on the terrain is indicated by border posts. Another conversation is that there are no such forces and means as we used to see in the old days.

[210ox]

Pavel, but in the old days there were no border posts at all ... There was an administrative border .. on the maps ..

[pv1005]

Quote: 210ox

Pavel, but in the old days there were no border posts at all ... There was an administrative border .. on the maps ..

Before, the trees were higher and the grass was greener. But now, unfortunately, we have what we have.

[your1970]

and there are forces and means on the border with Kazakhstan, and all kinds of runners catch systematic border guards too ...

[pv1005]

Quote: your1970

and there are forces and means on the border with Kazakhstan, and all kinds of runners catch systematic border guards too ...

Of course, I'm sorry, but I know a little more about these forces and means. All the same, 20 years in PV. And my son served on the Russian-Kazakh border.

[ghby]

Quote: pv1005

Crossing the border on the terrain is indicated by border posts. Another conversation is that there are no such forces and means as we used to see in the old days.

We have so far you will reach one district center on asphalt so first you will go to Kazakhstan and then again to Russia. Well, it’s just that the road is straight and there is no border :) so at one time along the road there was a duty-free market for trade in Kazakh vodka. But the border guards mostly catch smugglers; in the border villages this is a profitable business with disposable kruzaks who can be abandoned in the case of a sheher. Recently, this business has been driven up, well done, they are working. So in fact the border seems to be there but on paper.

[your1970]

it’s just a straight road and no border :) so at one time along the road there was a duty-free market for trading in Kazakh vodka. -in connection with the Customs Union, which controlled the movement of vodka and so on. goods removed. The function of the PS is to combat illegal border crossings and forbidden That’s why you had a vodka road

[pv1005]

Quote: ghby

Quote: pv1005

Crossing the border on the terrain is indicated by border posts. Another conversation is that there are no such forces and means as we used to see in the old days.

We have so far you will reach one district center on asphalt so first you will go to Kazakhstan and then again to Russia. Well, it’s just that the road is straight and there is no border :) so at one time along the road there was a duty-free market for trade in Kazakh vodka. But the border guards mostly catch smugglers; in the border villages this is a profitable business with disposable kruzaks who can be abandoned in the case of a sheher. Recently, this business has been driven up, well done, they are working. So in fact the border seems to be there but on paper.

Yes, I know, this year I got a lot in Varna and Trinity districts there myself.

[Finches]

Terrorism has no nationality, but now, we can say that it is Islamic terrorism that is most publicized ... Just for a crime, for example, committed by Israeli settlers last year, when an 18-month-old baby died as a result of the arson of several Palestinian houses, no one special attention does not pay attention to the terrorist actions of an organization such as the Irish "IRA" or the Spanish "ETA" ..., but all because, I think, Christians, even those opposing each other (Protestant and Catholicism or Anglicanism), perceive oneself as one family, but divided by disputes about inheritance, unlike Islam - a religion that is not understandable, and therefore carries discomfort ... In the Western world, Islam has been hostile since the time of the Crusades!
Orthodoxy is an all-understanding religion, unlike the Catholic one, but it also allows such liberties as deviation from religious tolerance ... Russia has been strong for centuries through multinationality and multiconfessionalism, and people who drive a wedge into this platform are the biggest terrorists!
Anyone who does this is a criminal, regardless of religion or nationality!
Bring crime under nationality and religion, the same path to crime ....

[Asadullah]

Terrorism has no nationality .....

It does not, but today 9999 shares of terrorism are accounted for by Muslim radicalism. And this radicalism is subject to one idea, the creation of a single state of Muslims. For Russia, with the Caucasus, with the Volga region, with Tatarstan and Bashkiria, this is a mortal danger. Therefore, even a gross inflection is excusable. Only all efforts, even gross ones, should be applied in one direction - the multidisciplinary nature of Islam. That is, to separate Islam from politics, from unification efforts, from unification by Salafi, from one-man management and from Arab money. First you need to open an Islamic university, in which all areas of Islam will be presented, and priority is focused on the philosophy of religion and Sufism. Today, a beardless puppy rolls to Cairo for Saudi money and arrives from there on a smart little man in glasses, with a thin wisp on his lip, ready in any mosque to bleat what is beneficial to the Arab kings. And Islam is much more extensive than the Wishlist of a titled camel lover.

[Leo7777]

Quote: Asadullah

It does not, but today 9999 shares of terrorism are accounted for by Muslim radicalism. And this radicalism is subject to one idea, the creation of a single state of Muslims.

This is the point, that this radicalism is a completely different religion. In such a sect, poorly educated people who want to earn money are easily recruited, these are the same crusades, only this time they go from the eastern lands to Europe.

Quote: Asadullah

That is, to separate Islam from politics

All religions must be separated from politics, now Orthodox and Catholic Christianity has little in common with the original teaching. Our schools have long been trying to introduce Christianity, the same recruitment of children at the state level, in the interests of the ruling oligarchs, why is such a religion better? According to our constitution, we have a secular state.

[Asadullah]

In such a sect, poorly educated people who want to earn money are easily recruited, these are the same crusades, only this time they go from the eastern lands to Europe.

Exactly. "Little educated people", to put it mildly, even tenderly, stupid rams who suddenly understand that you can not work, commit crimes and you will be a respected person in the Ummah. And the more terrible and inhuman your crimes are, the more respected you will be. What is there from religion, I don’t know, it’s very fashionable to “read” the Koran by moving your lips with an enlightened face and frowning eyebrows, even if you are illiterate or don’t read Arabic.

As for the secular state, here's the thing, you can’t teach to believe in God, it’s a gift. You can say the gift of Providence. The bulk of even true believers simply hope that life is not the last thing they see). And education on issues of faith is not at all superfluous for general education. In any case, young people even learn to understand that there is no right faith and wrong, there are only different methods in the knowledge of the Almighty. And how you succeed in this does not depend on the method, but only on your willingness to follow it. As for Orthodoxy, I understand it as a huge unifying force for the people. And that is wonderful. Language, culture, religion, history, these are the elements creating a nation. The oligarchs go bankrupt, some leave, others come and also leave, but the nation remains.

[Leo7777]

All religions are represented in our country, if religious teaching is taught, then this must be done by a historian, but not by a preacher, there must be an objective assessment and it must be taught at a conscious age. If you take Christianity, then in my opinion the Protestants are the most orthodox. Considering that neopaganism among the people has become popular now, this suggests that people have ceased to believe in priests in golden robes and are trying to return to their origins, but unfortunately there are more and more false teachers, demand creates supply. And neopaganism is not only popular in our country, but in some European countries is gaining momentum.

The oligarchs have their own children, in any country at the helm is business.

And each has its own concept of the word God, and it is not necessary that he is one.

[72jora72]

If you take Christianity, then in my opinion the Protestants are the most orthodox.

I am wildly sorry, but you probably just do not understand what the concept of "orthodoxy" means. Protestants, by definition, cannot be Orthodox because they are heretics ........
P.C. From the point of view of classical, primitive Christianity, the Orthodox are Orthodox.

[Leo7777]

Maybe you are not aware of what caused the movement?

[Asadullah]

And each has its own concept of the word God, and it is not necessary that he is one.

The issue is unsolved. As mentioned, faith is a gift. But God has no face, no number. Any denomination is the way. Everyone goes his own way. As climbers in different groups go to the top from different sides. Unfortunately, the vast majority do not go anywhere; for them, a means for them will settle at the foot of the mountain and point upwards from time to time with a finger.

[Orionvit]

This is the number. You still repeat the liberal nonsense that crime does not have a nationality. Most organized criminal groups are knocked together just on a national basis. And it is all over the world. I will not go into details, but for example, in all countries where there are Albanians, they are necessarily united in gangs. Any diaspora is already an embryo of organized crime groups. There are nationalities that, because of their mentality, always solve their problems against the law, because nature has not endowed them with the ability to create them. The same thing is with religions, if religion is at the head of state ideology, then there can no longer be any talk of building up. Then the religious state slides into the Middle Ages and becomes a hotbed of terrorism. Example. Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan. The possibilities are different, the meaning is the same.

[SSR]

Quote: Hunter

In Moscow and St. Petersburg, 10 militants were detained for preparing terrorist attacks

Today, 19: 31
The FSB announced the detention of 10 people suspected of preparing terrorist attacks in Moscow and St. Petersburg. This was reported in the department’s press release to RT.
According to updated data, the group planned to commit terrorist acts using machine guns and explosives in crowded places.
"The activities of an interregional terrorist group consisting of people from Central Asian countries who planned to carry out a series of resonant sabotage and terrorist acts in the city of Moscow and the city of St. Petersburg, have been stopped," the ministry said.
During the searches, four improvised bombs, firearms and ammunition were seized from the detainees.
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Today, 19: 42
Close the borders! Introduce a visa regime, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kyrgyz, etc. - must pass through a hard visa regime! My region, bordered by Kazakhstan,

Do you propose to close the topic of Eurasia and the Customs Union?
But you want me to remind you that in five years in the North Caucasus, nearly 900 security forces died! maybe you should remind how many ours are in Sasir on the side of the broads?
Here you do not need cheap Nazi populism here ...........

[Finches]

I’m serving in the army! He began the service from a private on appeal, the first military rank was corporal, ml. sergeant ..., he graduated from a military school and from the platoon commander he went up the steps of the ladder on which he commanded a separate military unit ... He did not take an active part in the hostilities in the Caucasus, but indirectly all conflicts from the beginning of the 90s touched me one way or another. ..However, it’s not about me - it’s your accusation of populism! You seem to have a better command of the situation and know something that I don’t know - without rudeness, tell me about it! You, apparently more deeply, own a situation based on your life experience than I do! I will be completely grateful for the clarification ...

[Asadullah]

You, apparently more deeply, own a situation based on your life experience than I do! I would be totally grateful for the clarification ... hi

Sorry to interrupt, dear, but it seems like they didn’t answer you, judging by the quote?

[your1970]

Are you sure that you CROSSED it? The border guards of such riders quite catch themselves ....

[mr.redpartizan]

They forgot about the skakaus. I would have generally fenced off minefields from such neighbors.

[vorobey]

In principle, it was expected ... now "tourists" from the Middle East will reach out, only they have to cut them off at the border ... what stamps, whose borders in passports were still shining ... to cut them in the bud.

[fif21]

Quote: vorobey

it’s only necessary to cut off at the border ..

Your avatar to help border guards

[Orionvit]

It would be nice to introduce face control at the border. Like I'm sorry dear, but I don't like your face, and then turn with a stamp in your passport. And there is no need to explain anything to anyone, let them say thank you to their compatriots for the "good" image.

[BISMARCK94]

Members of the criminal group, detained on suspicion of preparing terrorist attacks in Moscow and St. Petersburg, planned to act as militants who staged a series of attacks in Paris. This was "Rossiyskaya Gazeta" (WG) sources in the Russian special services on Saturday, November 12.

According to their information, in places of mass crowding, several explosive devices had to work simultaneously. At the same time, terrorists who did not need to fire bombs planned to open fire from machine guns in other parts of the cities.

End them!

[Trevis]

Yes, the robots from the FSB guys are more than enough. Either bonfireheads climb, then bearded ones. Russian citizens also need to watch! For the time is tight.

[Orionvit]

End them!

"And then I come up and in the face, oh yes, Ostap Ibrahimovich did not order to beat." Ilf and Petrov. Golden calf. All jokes, but it's time to quit this fucking liberalism. Death penalty, with sentencing prelude.

[awg75]

for the eggs and the Christmas tree.

[vorobey]

Quote: awg75

for the eggs and the Christmas tree.

brevity is the soul of wit... although I would first ask around a little

[Zibelew]

Duterte is not on them ... he would lynch these Dzhumshutov and Ravshanov.

[Smog]

And better without eggs and under the tree. At 2 meters.

[Dryuya2]

Quote: vorobey

although I would first ask around a little

therefore I think and gave to the capitals

[Snail N9]

“Again, vague doubts torment me ... Shpak has a tape recorder, the ambassador has a medallion ...
(yesterday saboteurs in Sevastopol, today terrorists in Moscow ....)

[Gardamir]

. Shpak has a tape recorder, the ambassador has a medallion ..

Well, the elections must be prepared in advance.

[Olegovi4]

and when a bullet from Kalash flies in, there will also be doubts? well, what kind of people. they do not work, they work, but somehow a lot. ugh on you

[pvmvmp]

It seems that all Russians declared a war as terrorists. And everyone should be vigilant, not just the FSB

[Fonmeg]

These barmaley poked around the cities and villages of Mother Russia in abundance! So no wonder. Thanks to the wise policy of the ruling party on the migration issue, there are more than enough centers of terrorism! We are waiting for where it rumbles !!!

[arcgrz]

in your Israel ..

[Stirbjorn]

Israel crowds for poor migrant workers does not open the door. Poverty and the lack of social elevators are fertile ground for the recruitment of potential terrorists. And all these mochilov on distant bouts, complete bullshit

[Mountain shooter]

Expected! Barmaley in Syria strongly pressed. They will not hold Aleppo, the next will be Raqqa - and there they will also squeeze it out of Mosul. So the bearded will stretch to Central Asia. And there, and not far from Russia.

[Olegater]

FSB officers are only grateful for the saved lives of Russians. And now look at the respected forum users Narik Kirby threatened Russia with terrorist acts and after some time they detained such entities. And how many prevented we do not know. But a rabid and infectious rat called lice will spoil our mood a lot. And with the election of Trump, probably nothing will change.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Olegater

But a rabid and infectious rat called lice will spoil our mood a lot.

Mattresses now have their own "headache" in all directions and they will not develop much activity for six months. But Qatar and Saudi Arabia, as the main sponsors of the bearded and the customers of the mess in Syria, may be primarily interested in and involved in organizing terrorist attacks on Russian territory, in revenge for the collapse of their Syrian project.

[Olegater]

Yes, Nyrobsky. You are right. Matrsni now has slightly different problems in the form of trump and protests. But it will pass quickly. And perhaps they will take up the old. But these Saudis, simply wrapped, need to be punished exponentially. And then they take too much on themselves To undermine the economy of the USSR and subsequently Russia. Sponsoring jackals in Chechnya and around the world. Yes, a lot for what. They think that sitting on oil, they are all allowed. But if they cross a certain line, then these donkeys can evaporate.

[tinibar]

Quote: Yeraz

Quote: Hunter

Introduce a visa regime, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kyrgyz, etc. - must pass through a hard visa regime!

Here you are naive. The North Caucasians make terrorist attacks. And the North Caucasians also muddle the head of other visitors. Therefore, sort it out inside, not looking outside, especially not looking for those))

Is Yeraz a Yerevan Automobile Plant?

[Smog]

[quote] Is Yeraz a Yerevan Automobile Plant?
/ Quote]
The 10th hour of the evening, and you still have the strength to humor. + Smiled.

[tinibar]

Humor is all that I have the strength to do .... But I remember Erasiki with a good word when they drove me to VDNH ...

[Yeraz]

Quote: tinibar

Is Yeraz a Yerevan Automobile Plant?

No, these are Yerevan Azerbaijanis, as all Azerbaijanis from Armenia are called. The Aliyev and Eraz family of Aliyevs and the Nakhchivans are the least in Russia. Since these clans have power, the weakest, least educated and least united came to Russia. Because the strong took everything there.

[Gardamir]

Speaking of terrorists. Some terrorists again in St. Petersburg opened a board in honor of another terrorist Kolchak.

[serg2108]

Well, respect and respect, first of all, to the GRU representatives, apparently the preliminary information came from them as well as from our technical intelligence ..... and of course the FSB departments (all without exception). Guys keep it up your work depends on the security of all the peoples of Russia.

[Barakuda]

You can send the SBU news that they themselves know. -and do not bother.
- The cannon is 76 mm in the shed near Rzhishchev, but it’s sacred, they are checked there.
“They will get the people, however.”
- In the same place, a current under a land plot of the type - "Echo of War". Brother 2.
- And a lot of games with RPGs of all sorts, WHAT DOES THINK think of?

[samarin1969]

Drug trafficking and terrorism are quite sufficient reasons for the closure of the border and the rigid migration system. And let, given the seriousness of the war on terror, businessmen who attract migrants, "blind" precinct and customs officers answer. If you establish strict passport control, so much criminal abomination will be caught, which will compensate for the inconvenience for law-abiding citizens.

[Cat man null]

With all due respect,

Quote: samarin1969

border closures and a rigid migration system

и

Quote: samarin1969

establish strict passport control

- these are all different things. Want both at once?
- I remember, this has already been discussed. They even suggested migrants test polygraph
- the joke is that all these measures ... will not stop real terrorists (and drug couriers), unfortunately
- and here ... umm ... respectable migrants will definitely create problems.

Question: But do you really want this?

[samarin1969]

Passport control is problematic except on the beach ... For me, in the context of Syria and chronicles from the Caucasus, it is worth controlling the movement of people around the country as much as possible. This is a problem only for criminals and undisciplined people.

[Cat man null]

Quote: samarin1969

This is a problem only for criminals and undisciplined people.

- IMHO criminals (especially terrorists, especially not "amateurs", but with foreign support) with passports will all be tip-top
- and so - I personally do not mind control, the habit of carrying a passport with me is driven tightly, even from the Union

[Bloodsucker]

Quote: Cat Man Null

I personally do not mind control, the habit of carrying a passport with me is driven tightly, since the Union

The question is not so much in control.
The question is the loss of control, since in our country there is fertile ground for such manifestations.
And if you beat the tail without touching the head (the reason), then we will shoot the performers without affecting the owners.

[dauria]

- and so - I personally do not mind control, the habit of carrying a passport with me is driven tightly, even from the Union

In the Union "tightly" carried a military ID or ID card.
A passport was needed only for Aeroflot. By train, you could buy tickets and travel around the country without a passport. Control was arranged differently. The meager possibilities of illegal work, first registration, then work with military registration (everywhere), plus an article for parasitism. Officially not working at one stroke fell under suspicion. And now, private traders can easily even get a decent salary and a place in the office for anyone who has turned away from the army (or something else). And in such a crowd it’s easier to get lost - you can live on any (sponsorship) money, do not care for everyone.

[Cat man null]

Quote: dauria

In the Union "tightly" carried a military ID or ID card.
Passport was needed only for Aeroflot

- we, hike, lived with you in different Unions
- My soldier was lying at home in life. Parents, since their house was not yet
- but the passport is always with you. When communicating with the cops, I’ve helped a lot ... the muzzle is similar, you make your way through the TsAB, you weren’t, you weren’t, you weren’t involved - go for a walk, Vasya ... that wouldn’t have been like that with a military man

Somehow

[dauria]

- we, hike, lived with you in different Unions

Of course in different. Conscripts, cadets dragged a military ID. Identity officers. Always and everywhere, it was so. By the way, they did not have passports (they handed over immediately). And a ticket to the railway station to any corner of the country (except for the border zone) —will be sold to a teenager without a passport, there were no names. Another thing is the person traveling on business took a passport. Hotel, pass, etc. - there he was needed. And what would a normal hard worker in his city carry a passport, funny. The maximum is a factory pass in your pocket, and even where it was given into your hands (and this is not everywhere)

[Cat man null]

Quote: dauria

Conscripts, cadets dragged a military ID ...

- got it
- I, you see, "from civilian"
- therefore the passport is "our everything"

[Simpsonian]

Quote: samarin1969

and undisciplined people.

yes, that’s the only reason usually for restricting rights and freedoms, and usually it’s a specially created occasion.

[your1970]

and the customs officers are somehow to the migrants ??? this is to the border guards ... they control the movement of PEOPLE across the border, the customs officers control the goods ...

[driver]

In the mattresses, the headache with Trump certainly increased. But two months before assuming office, the old smoked team can do such things that Trump will not dissipate in a year (if he is alive). Clinton bitch is vindictive! And with a head a mess. And ukrov and bearded, they just activate. from this and begin.

[legkostup]

Surely they are all agents of Ukraine.

[tsvetkov1274]

Brothers work ...

[Zomanus]

I feel that soon, with regard to Tajik-Uzbeks, the policy of our state will change dramatically.
Because the more we flatter them in Syria, the more actively they run to us.

[avg-mgn]

What do you think should change? Shoot for the fact that they are a different nation, as it has already sounded here? The FSB works, knows how and is able. Of course, it’s more difficult to catch terrorists than to protect drugs, but they are being rebuilt, who do not want to fly out with a bang.

[Orionvit]

Quote: your1970

Orionvit
on the one hand, they are on the other hand a man shot for Chikatilo’s crimes.

These questions, please, not to the system as such, but directly to the investigative and judicial authorities. Although, when there were such excesses as the "plan for disclosure", you could expect anything. In any case, I am jarred by the very thought that maniacs and murderers sit quietly for themselves, and devour at the expense of law-abiding citizens, that is, their victims. As it is fundamentally wrong.

[Baloo]

Good news. Good luck to the shtirlits, work brothers

[mr.redpartizan]

I am a supporter of the introduction of a very strict visa regime similar to Switzerland, as well as a radical tightening of the procedure for issuing citizenship to foreigners (except for Russians by nationality). Obtaining a Russian passport should be extremely difficult, and an exception should be made for high-class specialists. Russia should be home to the best, and let the rest go through the woods. There should also be a procedure for deprivation of citizenship for anti-state activities, as was the case in the USSR. I would deprive my passport even for anti-Russian statements in the media and social networks. A man may not love power, but he MUST be obliged to love his homeland.

[Yeraz]

Quote: mr.redpartizan

I am in favor of introducing a very strict visa regime similar to Switzerland

Yes, only because of the beautiful eyes Russia doesn’t let migrants come here. This is necessary. A dumb shortage of labor and just men. Well, or to modernize the industry so that people are minimally involved in production. Even technologically advanced USA and the West are forced to attract migrants. Since such a volume of industry will not attract so many people.
And do not forget about the political moment. The Russian Federation wants a single space and control over the former countries of the Union, having closed its market, Russia will push these countries away. Plus migrants are a method of influence. Since Russia will throw out these migrants and there is little money. And this is still the influence of the Russian space. After all, Russia is absorbing part of this people.
As an Azerbaijani, I will say in 90% of the families where the dad is Azerbaijani; the mother is a Russian child; he turns out to be Russian.

Quote: mr.redpartizan

Obtaining a Russian passport should be extremely difficult,

And here the comrade is completely guilty of the Russian state, or rather partly him. I know this area, but many migrants from compulsion go to get a red passport. There is such a thing as a residence permit. It gives the migrant all the rights of a citizen of the Russian Federation, except for appeal and the right to elect and be elected, this comrade has the whole list of documents and duties, like a citizen of the Russian Federation, insurance, SNLs, ITN and everything. But when they are employed, they DO NOT TAKE IT. Employers do not know what a residence permit is, and some people think that it’s not even a Patent, but they say they’re worse and do not take people to work. Although, by law, this is wrong and EVERYONE IS FORCED to get a Russian passport.

Quote: mr.redpartizan

There should also be a procedure for deprivation of citizenship for anti-state activities, as was the case in the USSR.

Well, given what state we live in and whoever sits up there, there is a high probability that this law will be used for dissent or just to get rid of the enemy.

Quote: mr.redpartizan

A man may not love power, but he MUST be obliged to love his homeland.

Well, for some, Putin’s dislike conventionally means not love of the Motherland. Or disagreement with the current policy, everyone immediately accuses of betrayal. This is a dangerous thing that you offer in Russian realities.

[cat hippopotamus]

The FSB worked, and most importantly, rabid dogs were not allowed to carry out their dirty deed.

[Orionvit]

Quote from AUL

1. This army of garbage will never leave its "barracks"

Here, as they say, never renounce. For example, I don't know what will happen tomorrow. But the example of revolutions and coups shows that the first thing to do is to open the doors of prisons in order to further destabilize the situation. In Ukraine, after the Maidan, it was enough to declare that you are a "patriot" of Ukraine and want to go to war in Donbass, and immediately fell under the amnesty. It is from this kind of "patriots" that various battalions are formed.