Media: In Syria, the trellis screen saved the life of the crew of the T-72

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In battles near Damascus, the Syrian army is actively using Tanks T-72 and ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" received lattice screens and additional reservation, the agency said Messenger of Mordovia.





These improvements have strengthened the protection of machines - “T-72 could even withstand hitting rocket-propelled grenades with a tandem warhead,” writes the author of the article, Lev Romanov.

Media: In Syria, the trellis screen saved the life of the crew of the T-72


However, one of these tanks was not lucky. According to the agency, it got an upgraded rocket "Baby", also having a tandem warhead and semi-automatic guidance.



“The crew left the damaged tank. After some time, the terrorists finished off his second rocket - a fire began in the fighting compartment. After which the "seventy-two" was completely incapacitated "- says the publication.



The author notes that at present in a number of countries "the unlicensed production of upgraded Malyutka anti-tank missiles continues, in particular, in China, Iran and Serbia."

It was in Serbia that the Arabian allies of the United States bought it. weapon and then shipped it to the militants in Syria. In addition, some of the missiles were captured by terrorists from Syrian government forces.
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  1. +5
    10 October 2016 13: 57
    Baby, the first generation (albeit modernized), and what creates.
    1. +10
      10 October 2016 14: 06
      It’s cheap and there’s no additional protection. So it essentially survived, saved the crew, letting him leave the car, finished off the second.
      Honestly, I didn’t even think that someone would dare to modernize such a junk, I repeatedly saw the use of the baby in the video, but I was sure that it was from old stocks.
      1. +21
        10 October 2016 14: 26
        "Cheap and no additional protection.
        So essentially she survived, saved the crew,
        letting him leave the car, the second was finished off. "////

        I pierced the grill and armor, and the first Baby, too.
        Only she did not set fire to the charges, and the crew managed to jump out for good luck.
        1. +6
          10 October 2016 15: 02
          If she had pierced the armor, then there would be no one to jump out.
          1. +9
            10 October 2016 15: 22
            breaking through the armor does not mean the death of the crew. as well as the loss of the tank.
            1. +4
              10 October 2016 16: 39
              Penetration of armor by cumulative ammunition causes an explosive increase in pressure and temperature in the armored space. The crew turns into torn, charred carcasses.
          2. +3
            10 October 2016 15: 24
            If she had pierced the armor, then there would be no one to jump out.

            Why? Do you know the principle of the cumulative jet?
          3. +1
            10 October 2016 18: 10
            C'mon, learn the mate!
      2. +6
        10 October 2016 17: 21
        Quote: katalonec2014
        Cheap and no additional protection.

        Over kaklamy, I remember kidding. what
        1. 0
          10 October 2016 18: 27
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Over kaklamy, I remember kidding.

          Well so they lattices from window blinds riveted ... fool
          Hello fellow poachers! drinks (I'm sitting with a piece of moose ... feel )
          1. +1
            10 October 2016 18: 46
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            Hello fellow poachers! (I'm sitting with a piece of moose ...

            you asked for it laughing

            now you’ll run your whole life through the forests.
            Hello Jura laughing
          2. +1
            10 October 2016 19: 43
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            Hello fellow poachers! (I'm sitting with a piece of moose ..

            Hello Perm Forest Brother. drinks How sad you are, with a piece of moose calf only beggars sit. Normal guys with her with pork or boar’s hinder, to the extreme with venison. Yes
  2. +1
    10 October 2016 14: 27
    Comprehensive protection of machines should be handled by design bureaus, not homemade products. This crew is lucky, and the other may not be lucky.
    1. +4
      10 October 2016 14: 50
      Quote: Sentry73
      Comprehensive protection of machines should be handled by design bureaus, not homemade products.

      About lattices have already been discussed more than once. You can also add a net from the bed, or you can add one that mechanically destroys the charge. It happens that designers from ideas from home-made people catch and bring to the technological mind.
    2. +5
      10 October 2016 15: 35
      Quote: Sentry73
      Comprehensive protection of machines should be handled by design bureaus, not homemade products. This crew is lucky, and the other may not be lucky.

      Judging by the uniformity of the screens on different tanks - this is just factory protection. And it looks suspiciously like the creations of the notorious Steel Research Institute.
      1. 0
        10 October 2016 16: 19
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Judging by the uniformity of the screens on different tanks - this is just factory protection. And it looks suspiciously like the creations of the notorious Steel Research Institute.

        All lattice screens are similar, but rather Iranian, although Iranian ones, as I suspect, also grow legs from Russia.

        Quote: article
        the unlicensed production of the upgraded Malyutka anti-tank missiles continues, in particular in China, Iran and Serbia

        Yes, let them make any of these anti-tank systems already obsolete.
        Iranian Baby-T.
    3. +2
      10 October 2016 17: 56
      Judging by the photographs, these are not self-made lattices. I saw the same ones at the T-90 at the UVZ ARMY-2016 stand (everything like that - a system of bonding to each other, flat ribs, a method of attaching to armor).
      Either we bring gratings (production in Syria is completely ruined) or sculpt according to our drawings.
      1. +1
        10 October 2016 19: 37
        What is good about the baby - it does not have passive protection, it is controlled visually through the wire with a joystick.
  3. win
    +3
    10 October 2016 14: 27



    According to a well-known proverb: Goal for a fiction is cunning! ...
    1. 0
      10 October 2016 14: 36
      Quote: Siegen
      Goal for invention is cunning! ...

      He himself has a whole folder of such photos, but there are few photos that survived after being hit, again a big difference from which they made a mess. Recently, someone laid out a photo of Merkava with damage, withstood.
  4. +2
    10 October 2016 14: 36
    Lucky them. Baby, as far as my amateurish mind is enough, the most ancient complex, but it breaks through like a god. Or simply this whole screen is moral support, which does not have any significant effectiveness as an armor. As far as I understand, if the tank was disabled by the first hit, then the matter is rather that the BC did not blaze and the screen is not worth it. Although it is possible to understand the Syrians, you’ll get up on cancer without cancer, so they put up bars.
  5. +3
    10 October 2016 14: 38
    "The unlicensed production of modernized anti-tank missiles" Baby "continues, in particular, in China, Iran and Serbia."

    like all the "brothers" in words. but in reality?
    1. 0
      10 October 2016 14: 46
      Quote: rpek32
      like all the "brothers" in words.

      If you are talking about the first two, then this is wrong ... There is no such word in Han and Farsi, I give a grudge. Well, they don't have the suffix "ush"!
      1. +1
        10 October 2016 15: 32
        it's irony. those who formally declare that they show sympathy for the Russian Federation, make weapons thanks to which the Russian Federation has problems - this is when viewed from the side.
        1. 0
          11 October 2016 00: 39
          nothing personal, only business
    2. +1
      10 October 2016 17: 26
      Quote: rpek32
      like all the "brothers" in words. but in reality?

      And if you analyze how much of our purely weapons fell to the barmaley? After all, it is written that the weapons were purchased by "Arabian allies". We even organized the production of RPG-32 in Jordan, so what are the claims to the brothers, if they themselves have a snout in the fluff? request
  6. +2
    10 October 2016 14: 55
    It was in Serbia that the Arabian allies of the United States bought these weapons and then shipped them to the militants in Syria.
    Money does not smell?
  7. +4
    10 October 2016 15: 10
    The screen is a timid hope for the premature operation of the cumulative ammunition as a result of contact with the grate, which will cause the cumulative jet to spray up to direct contact with the armor itself. The first screens were nets from German beds, which our grandfathers welded onto tanchegs during the storming of Berlin, right ?? Nothing has changed in 70 years. But what about "power screens", "refractive fields" and other crap from warhammer 40k ??
    1. +5
      10 October 2016 16: 08
      Quote: von_Tilsit
      The screen is a timid hope for the premature actuation of the cumulative ammunition as a result of contact with the grill, which will cause the cumulative jet to spray directly into contact with the armor itself.

      Not at all. Cutting or knife screen - the hope of breaking the funnel or breaking the fuse circuit. In order to attribute the short-circuit response point to the range necessary to defocus the jet, the screens would have to be assigned to a meter or two.
      Quote: von_Tilsit
      The first screens are nets from German beds, which our grandfathers welded on tanches during the assault on Berlin, right ??

      Wrong. These are not nets from beds, but standard factory lattice screens. Based on the test results, it was found that against the most massive short circuits of that time - heavy panzerfatsust (60 and 100) - they do not work. However, the German screens did not work against these short-circuits.
      Therefore, the best screen was recognized as the tank marines, who shot the faustics before they launched (or gave the CU to the tankers - "hit where the tracers fly - he got there").
  8. 0
    10 October 2016 15: 25
    Cheap and cheerful, the main thing is effective. Or you can double row of lattices or triple ...
    1. +1
      10 October 2016 17: 13
      The tank is destroyed ... What is the efficiency you measure? If it’s about babies, then yes ...
      1. 0
        10 October 2016 17: 18
        It’s like a rocket of the year 60. Completely modern ATGM with tandem warhead and semi-automatic.
        1. 0
          11 October 2016 00: 49
          Penetration:
          at an angle of 0 ° - 400 mm
          at an angle of 60 ° - 200 mm
          The probability of hitting a target type tank: 0,7
    2. aba
      0
      10 October 2016 22: 15
      the main thing is effective.

      Judging by the video, what is on the network, then the efficiency of lattice screens is close to zero.
      1. 0
        11 October 2016 06: 49
        Quote: aba
        the efficiency of lattice screens is close to zero.

        It cannot be close to zero, and that's why. After triggering on the armor and punching, the cork flies into the body and beyond it is expanding gases from explosives, that is, thermobar. Here the screens work at 100 and the energy from the explosion is dissipated to the armor, there is only a stream. And then its trajectory may change. In general, the lattice should crush (break) the focusing cone so that there is no cumulative effect. but there was a simple explosion.
  9. 0
    10 October 2016 17: 07
    In the photo here nifiga is not self-made work.
    Explicitly factory production.
    Be under the lattice DZ, the tank could well keep the ATGM.

    And there is nothing to compare export tanks with our serial, even ancient t-72s. The tanks in internal use had combined armor. They went for export with simple iron.
  10. +1
    10 October 2016 17: 11
    Yes, not the screen saved, but just a hit successful for the crew. I don’t know, maybe the grid influenced it - changing the trajectory of operation. But the fact that these lattices did not protect against the little ones - ancient as shit of a mammoth, sadness, sadness.
    Why the hell did we give out so many licenses for the production of weapons to the left and right. Now they give caps to our weapons.
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  12. 0
    10 October 2016 18: 11
    Oden280,
    You rave dear!
  13. +1
    10 October 2016 18: 14
    Quote: rpek32
    it's irony. those who formally declare that they show sympathy for the Russian Federation, make weapons thanks to which the Russian Federation has problems - this is when viewed from the side.

    The Russian Federation has a lot of problems with a Kalashnikov assault rifle, and then what?
  14. +1
    10 October 2016 19: 41
    Yes, it's all crap, not protection. Well, read at your leisure the principle of operation of tandem shells and deal with cumulative b / p. Learn a lot of interesting things. And most importantly, understand that the grid has nothing to do with it. Well, she can’t help purely physically. But there is still such a thing as an armor-piercing-subcaliber projectile. It flashes the armor (it flashes it) almost through and through. And do you think the grid will delay or reject it? No matter how. Why install this grid of mind I can’t imagine.
  15. +1
    10 October 2016 20: 51
    Oden280,
    Quote: Oden280
    Penetration of armor by cumulative ammunition causes an explosive increase in pressure and temperature in the armored space. The crew turns into torn, charred carcasses.


    Have you mixed up the Star Wars blaster?
  16. 0
    10 October 2016 23: 38
    Well, yes, Uncle Valya was sent to the penal battalion for leaving the tank with the ammunition not shot. Then, when the commander whom he carried out survived and wrote about the battle, Uncle Valya was returned to duty. And then - leave the tank ...
  17. 0
    11 October 2016 00: 26

    The oldest, but mine