Denmark and Australia recognized the facts of the airstrikes against the Syrian army in the Deir ez-Zor area

Two countries of the so-called American anti-igil coalition after the United States recognized the participation of aviation in striking at the positions of the Syrian government army in the area of ​​Deir ez-Zora. On the eve of such a statement was made by the Department of Defense of Australia. And today, similar information is published in the Danish military.

The Danish Defense Ministry reports that two F-16 Royal Air Force aircraft were involved in operations in Deir ez-Zor. It is noted that the operation by the Danish pilots was stopped immediately after reports from Russia that the coalition planes were attacking not at ISIS facilities (banned in the Russian Federation), but at the positions of Syrian government forces.

From the official statement of the Danish Ministry of Defense:

We regret to declare that the coalition attacked not the terrorists of the “Islamic State”, but the positions of Syrian soldiers. The coalition had no intention of attacking the Syrian military. There was a mistake.

Given the fact that every mistake has a surname and a first name, it would be extremely important if the so-called coalition had the courage to say who specifically was responsible for the death of more than 60 Syrian soldiers in the Deir-ez-Zor area.

Recall that after the “error” of the coalition, about a thousand of the ISIL militants took control of one of the Deir ez-Zor districts and raised the flag of the terrorist “caliphate” there.

Comments

[Vend]

Of course, I could be wrong, but I think the point is an attempt at a provocation that failed. .Mol Russia and the United States are now in a coalition, therefore a blow to the Syrian troops could lead to the rupture of Russia and Syria. However, it is evident that our specialists had prepared good information and the provocation did not pass.

[cniza]

And all the little mongrels, sooner or later will pay for everything.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

That is, how did this provocation fail?
Superbly successful.
What is the Russian leadership to do now? How to answer?
In this place there were only ISIS and Syrian government troops. Everyone knew about it, without exception. Why did western guys fly there without coordination with Russia and Syria? And then flew. And they could not know who was being bombed.
And now what? How to respond to Russia? What to do?
Versions in the studio.
Answer options: closing the skies over Syria for the planes of the United States and its allies over the territory of Syria in words, the same thing in practice, start to shoot down, etc.
The states magnificently aggravated the situation. What will be the answer? Will we trend and snub? It seems that it will be so.
Second question: Coordination of actions between Russia and Syria.
It took an hour for Russia to inform the United States that the wrong bomb was being bombed.
How to explain this hour? What the hell?

[flywheel]

And personally, what decision would you make?

[Dryuya2]

from adventure a good comment

[Vladimir Postnikov]

I absolutely do not understand what they did two F-16 there for an hour? What are they throwing for an hour (per hour on a teaspoon)? And how did the A-10 shoot? With single shots for an hour?
I suppose that they flew in and out, and there were not four of them.
There is some kind of trend information.

[Mahmut]

And now what? How to respond to Russia? What to do?
Versions in the studio.

Since Russia is tracking Syrian airspace, Syrian forces will have to be alerted to the air threat.

[dima-fesko]

What about fuel? Refueling......

[nadezhiva]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

I absolutely don’t understand what they did two F-16s there for an hour? ... There is some kind of trend with information there.

Waiting for intelligence? Squeals appeared on the Internet that Russian reconnaissance and valuable barmalei, who were allegedly interrogated, died during airstrike. With the information, it’s definitely a trend.
http://warfiles.ru/show-129624-ssha-udarili-po-ro
ssiyskim-razvedchikam-v-sirii.html

[Dryuya2]

the little shavers also stated that their aircraft participated in the air strike.
probably, they flew from a passenger Boeing with the whole crowd.
there were balts, rodents, and rodents

[Iline]

That's what is interesting, the Americans here also tried to substitute their friends for the whole world so that they themselves would not be bored to answer questions. And when will these friends begin to see that they are not friends with them, but simply use them in their personal interests?

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Your nickname is provocative. This means that you love to provoke others.
However, I will answer more for others.
I do not know. I do not have the information to make such decisions. Intuitively, I feel that the situation is not simple.
But, as a result of the decision made (by those who make them) will carry certain information about the real state of affairs.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

That is, how did this provocation fail?
Superbly successful.

Well, some, in general this blow to the Syrians, declared our diplomatic victory over the United States
Like now, the whole world will see again, how bad they are

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Stirbjorn

this blow to the Syrians, declared our diplomatic victory over the United States

This is something to me Poroshenko and Co. reminds: that not a dupa, then overpower.

[uskrabut]

And why should Russia respond? We were called by the Syrians to bomb the barmaley, and we are doing this. They agreed with the Americans that they would persuade the moderate not to show off. That's all. The Syrians did not ask us to bring down the Americans. Syrians need to make noise now

[Vladimir Postnikov]

And we have nothing to do with it. We fight with a brick.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

We’re trending and smacking?

That's exactly what will happen And trend and rub yourself! And nothing more. And what can you get from an empty boltology at VO? Only a zero result and nothing more.

[KaPToC]

what are you doing here?

[Vladimir Postnikov]

And trend and rub yourself!

Based on these five sentences, it is difficult to say who you are: an anarchist provocateur or a lackey provocateur.

[Ezhaak]

And about yourself there is no desire to say something?

[11 black]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Answer options: closing the skies over Syria for the planes of the United States and its allies over the territory of Syria in words, the same thing in practice, start to shoot down, etc.
The states magnificently aggravated the situation. What will be the answer? Will we trend and snub? It seems that it will be so.

Most likely you are right but this will be the "best of the worst" options.
How not to twist, but from yusovtsy we will not be able to close the sky over Syria... The S-400 division (or regiment) and a couple of Su-30 and Su-35 units are good, but this is clearly not the kind of force that could "close the sky" and protect Khmeimim from hundreds of axes.
It turns out that for a few shot down Raptor (let them be at least 15-20 pieces full) we will lose Syria, we will be deprived of the opportunity to help them and it will be squeezed out in months or weeks, and we will also get an oil pipeline from Qatar and the caliphate in the Middle East, and a crowd of refugees from IS will finally "finish off" Europe ... not to mention the state of "undeclared war" with NATO.

The best way - like in Korea, the official delivery of a couple of three regiments to the Syrians, for example, "SAM Buk" + Tunguska / Tor / Pantsir and our actions on behalf of the SAR army to protect their skies - the Americans are de facto aggressor, SAR has the right to defend themselves, it would be best to quietly help them in this endeavor ...
Naturally, Khmeimim’s intelligence tools will facilitate this process and maximize our security.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Opinion sofa strategist:
I still consider the tactics of strongholds of artillery points along the roads, which I wrote about in October-December last year (in particular on the military-industrial complex website), the best option for advancing in this war. It was in this way that the border should be closed. It was in this way that one should make his way to DeZ and Raqqa. Sequentially point by point. Methodically and strongly. Do not chase terrorists "on bicycles and donkeys", but get them with a shell after they enter the firing zone of the strongpoint. The strong point is a means of observation, communication, and artillery towed guns (type D-30). If they were, then the air defense systems would be on duty there too. Strongpoints will guard the roads along which they should be built, which means they will also guard corridors for aviation (helicopters, for example).
Towed howitzers D-30 we have several thousand in storage. They decided to abandon the 122mm caliber, and for such cases (small groups on bicycles and donkeys) the 152mm will be redundant.
Reasoning couch strategist. Never mind. He thinks he is playing beads. But, only he thinks so.

[twviewer]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Reasoning couch strategist.

and who will explain the difference for Gazprom between the Qatari gas pipeline and Iran? in my opinion there is no difference, hence all this trampling on the spot.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Any stomp on the spot does not bode well. Stomping on the spot can also be represented as a tactical or strategic move. But, in the vast majority of cases, this is just ignorance of what to do next. Such decision-making is called improvisation (or situational decision-making) and has nothing to do with strategy. As a rule, it ends badly.
A great example is Afghanistan. Unlike the Syrian campaign, the military operation there was carried out competently. The political decision is still perplexing with its idiocy. The finale is famous. And in Syria, Russia's actions are precisely improvisational from the very beginning. We climbed in nowhere and got stuck in the same place where we climbed. They waited, waited until the roasted cock pecked. We agreed on something with Iran, but somehow, in a hurry. The recent departure from the Iranian air base is a shame of some kind. But gas is the tenth thing. Iran’s Qatari gas to Europe is worse than Gazprom, because this hypothetical gas pipeline will cut off the Shiites of Syria and Lebanon from Iran.

[twviewer]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Such decision-making is called improvisation (or situational decision-making) and has nothing to do with strategy. As a rule, it ends badly.

The fact that there is no strategic agreement is simple because there is no strategic thinking, and reflection is presented as genius.

[Beard31]

There are two options: 1) Leave Syria, surrender everything to the mercy of the United States with its allies from ISIS. 2) Shoot down hostile aircraft of the United States and its allies, and this is the way to exacerbate the military confrontation between Russia and the coalition of countries led by the United States. Such a military confrontation could lead to a limited thermonuclear war between Russia and the United States. The United States is checking our military-political leadership for fear, whether it is pissed or not. If you knock down a couple of coalition planes, it can cool them, or it can give rise to a full-scale war with us in Syria. Most likely no one will go to a nuclear or total conventional war. The conclusion is that the Yankees should crash. with information coverage of their despicable policies in the Middle East, as the arsonists of war, sponsoring radical Islamist terrorists creating animal lawlessness and genocide against humanity.

[Andrey K]

The two countries of the so-called American anti-Igilov coalition, following the United States, recognized the participation of their aviation in attacking the positions of the Syrian government army in the Deir ez-Zor area.

Ugh ...
The two "greatest" allies in the "coalition" bloody "missed" ...

... We sadly declare ...

The rules of good manners allow us to soon also, with "regret" to declare, about an "accidental" blunder in relation to mattress mats with "coalition" henchmen ...

[Alex_Rarog]

Well, what the fucking damn thing we’ve been hammering for almost a year, and we’ve never beat it! Even on mattresses that rummage in the desert! And these have just begun to work with us; the jambs are already pouring in!

[vitaz]

each error has a last name and first name

In this case, S.Sh.A.

[Rurikovich]

Oh how a gentleman is being screened That’s the lackeys to substitute yourself in difficult times.

[rotmistr60]

Also thought about it. Immediately there were performers who fight ISIS with sweat. Something before this had not been heard about the work of aviation in Australia, and even more so Denmark. But the performer is the performer, and the Americans carried out the leadership and the main demand from them.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Rurikovich

About how the gentleman is being fenced off. Serfs also would substitute themselves in difficult times.

these statements are more like a manifestation of a new front / coalition that puts itself against Russia. similar to international escalation.

[newcomer]

The Yankees used these dwarfs in the dark.

[Dryuya2]

Quote: newbie

these dwarfs

which Denmark or Australia
before that, Australia said that "we participated in the strike and 2 F-16 are ours"

[newcomer]

So what? everything is covered with darkness here. whether they used them, then they deliberately bombed. in any case, the pilots did not know at all, they have coordinates. Danish or Australian generals are hard to believe, but you might have known. So what?

[SVD]

It is a pity that the Syrian troops without air defense cover. If they would fill up these allies, they would no longer be mistaken.

[sub307]

Strange somehow ... Indeed, where is their air defense? They have "... over 900 air defense systems and over 4000 anti-aircraft guns of 23-100 mm caliber. 300 Syrian air defense systems fall on the S-75 Dvina and S-75M Volga, 200 Cube, 140 - on the C -125 "Neva" and C-125M "Pechora", 60 "Wasp". "
Another question is how effective is all this against NATO aviation?

[donavi49]

From positions controlled by Assad to DeZ from 200km and more.

In DeZ itself, all air defense was destroyed consciously, and on the basis of air defense, Black.

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1689738.html?thread=1
59146122
Only MZA in the form of air defense, and even then two or three live shilka are used in urban battles.

It’s not possible to throw Buk or Shell even through the air, because the runway is shot by the Blacks from the dominant heights, and the supply goes with containers on parachutes and Mi-8 to improvised platforms inside the perimeter in the desert.

[St Petrov]

did you see where Assad’s troops are located at which the strike was hit?

[Siberian]

Dolbanuli for those Syrians who are surrounded, what the hell are they. Air defense, they have provisions and ammunition drop from planes

[Bursa]

Shoot down American planes, as the most ardent ones advise, is impossible. Who should bring them down? Syrians? This is a reason for a direct attack by the United States on the Syrian army, which they so need. It is necessary to draw the attention of the entire world community to the fact that the Americans have never hit barmaley with their bombs. This is a good reason to ban them from flying to Syria at all. What, it seems to me, is Churkin now engaged in the UN.

[kolkulon]

Interesting. What did the United States promise them for covering up their ass?

[Simple]

Quote: from article

The coalition had no intention of attacking the Syrian military. There was an error.

Were

Recently I watched a telecast with the participation of a general from this very coalition, in such a firm voice said: we are in the know about everything (regarding the conduct of hostilities in Syria).




By the way, Denmark and Australia have not repented with the word of honor "return everything to its place" ?.

[imugn]

How will the coalition bring its troops into the city after the "liberation", if there is a contingent of the Syrian army there? That's "wrong"

[Mountain shooter]

There, the pilots do not see, for whom they work, in such a mess. They were given the coordinates, they worked on them. Here are those who gave - they started this provocation, and even set up the allies - a favorite pastime of mattresses.

[fanntomas]

If in this case there was a mistake of the pilots, as well as in all other cases (weddings, funerals, hospitals, etc.), then I am truly sorry for the military from NATA. In the case of real databases, they comb theirs and be healthy.

[rotmistr60]

And they had "friendly fire" more than once. And in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are no strangers.

[UnclePasha]

No mistake, I think they were given the coordinates, they worked!

[AdekvatNICK]

Danes and Australians can not understand what role they play in the coalition? gloriously they are used by those who know how to substitute.

[win]

4 aircraft participated in the raid - 2 Danish F-16s and 2 A-10 attack aircraft.
It's strange, because only Americans have the A-10.
Maybe leased to the Australians? They view the storming of the Syrians as a valor. This is how the light in their eyes is seen. They want to cling to the "herostratic" glory ...

[donavi49]

Australians most likely provided far cover on the Groler or Super Hornets. If anything, the coalition is carrying out almost all deep raids with a cutting pair, for unforeseen cases.

[evge-malyshev]

This is how they fight ISIS. Regularly, "by mistake" they strike at the Syrian troops and their allies.

[udincev]

So Daesh ISIS acquired the air forces and effectively used the offensive ...

[Starik72]

Oh, brothers, there are no words, some letters are pouring from my mouth. I do not want to comment, because one mat in the language. Oh RUSSIA !!!

[kitamo]

I'm wondering ...
Well, the United States recognized at first, now their misfortunes are ...
and in money, these admissions of errors will somehow be expressed? well, such as compensation to the families of those killed during their raid, and to the Syrian state direct damage, such as a rather big one ... I’m not talking about the indirect losses from this raid incurred during the attack of the barmalei ...

[RomanS]

Everything is correct. As in a gangster group, all members are "anointed" with blood. You will not get out. But the foreign policy "according to concepts" has already taken hold of the entire planet.

[askort154]

The US supported the Isis attack, but failed. The publicity was loud, thanks to our timely response up to the UN. As a result, the United States is pinned down and forced to appoint the "guilty", as in the underworld - "sixes". What prevented Austria and Denmark from immediately going into consciousness, and not tearing a robe on their chest, three days later. Obviously, the US punctures have become systemic, especially in the confrontation with Russia.

[Free Island]

Denmark (and where just does this stinking brown spot on the world map ???) and Kengural stopped the attack after Russia reported ... and when Russia no longer reports, it starts to bring down all these six-sheeted litter Fe 16 to Benina’s mother ??? ??))))

[Galleon]

I really hope that recognition means at least compensation to the families of the deceased, and such that it was possible to raise orphans not in poverty. And at least - the commitment to iron at least in this busy quarter of ISIS until their last barrel stops shooting.
Forcing these stumps to do so is what we will save face in such a situation.
For example, when in 1988 the Americans shot down an Iranian passenger liner (also "by mistake"), despite all the hostility, Iran was paid about 61,8 million compensations. The trial, however, lasted 8 years ((

[Free Island]

as always, the United States all forgives for the fact that they were mistaken like? :))) how many residential quarters did these nature mistakes take down before they found Hussein? although all this time Hussein was hanging around in his palace :))))))) or maybe he could crash some missile in Washington and say oh sorry this mistake, the snout of your black president painfully looks like a gunman ISIS

[dzerzhinsky]

Ours, as always, will wipe.

[Boozer]

Well, according to the logic of the West, Putin is usually to blame for everything ...

[den3080]

There the parties notify each other about departures and, in general, about flights. The Russian command knew about this "Y" operation. But the "allies" hit the Syrian army. For the Syrian army (the official armed formations of the SAR) is not their ally. An ally of the United States and the Western coalition - ISIS and its comrades (in the noble cause of overthrowing Assad and establishing complete chaos in the Middle East). This should be clear to everyone, in my opinion.
And all sorts of there "with regret ..." - these are fairy tales for newborn children, because those who go to kindergarten can no longer be deceived.

[Prince of Pensions]

And now we will hear tales that Russia threatens Australia and Denmark.

[voyaka uh]

Danes are not too experienced when working on land.
We attacked the wrong hill. And after them and others ("do as I do").
In general, the incident has become clearer.

[Yak-3P]

and there you did not fly avax .... warrior error ??? .. you say ... you say the wrong hill ... you justify ?? nu-nu .. Danes are inexperienced - hehe heh .. you are inexperienced

[voyaka uh]

What does AWACS, long-range radar reconnaissance have to do with it?

[1536]

So both Denmark and Australia help the terrorists !.
The Iranians are great, they said that "these are not mistakes." This is the very beginning of the war against the government forces of Syria and the Russian Aerospace Forces by a coalition of states led by the United States.

[razved]

Recognized. And then what?

[tilix]

And now the right question is, were the Russian military among the Syrian forces? And whether they were injured. If a.

[japs]

The question is correct. We do not shake test tubes. Although sometimes you should ...

[tilix]

The question is right

That's as if there were no two hundred. Such infa slipped.

[iouris]

Well, there are not two "flew". In addition to the United States, two more countries from the "coalition" admitted, apparently just in case.
It's time to realize that the US hasn't given up on its goal of overthrowing Assad. Tactics are changing: instead of open war - "friendly fire". Cooperated.

[Yak-3P]

f-16 is Australopithecus ???? or rent ?? or in a spark an Australian Dane ?? Yes, and thunderbolts current in ameripids ...

[Phoenix_L'vov]

60? 5 people died, their blessed memory!

[11 black]

Quote: Phoenix_Lvov

60? 5 people died, their blessed memory!

Are you from a parallel universe?

[Olena]

-And what should have happened differently ..? - Everything was as it should be ...
-Russia suddenly supported the "American truce" ... -As if Russia had not been taught anything similar to the "truce" in Novorossiya ... -Russia simply framed the Syrian army with this "truce" ... -I already wrote a week ago in another topic, that as soon as all sorts of "truce" began .., then write was gone ...
-So it happened ... -And what should Russia do now ..? -Continue to support the Americans, hug Erdogan and continue to fly humanitarian aid to Syria on airplanes indefinitely ..? -Russia voluntarily drove itself into a trap .., and "Assad's Syria" too ... -No one has been able to sit on three chairs yet ... -No comments ...

[Siberia]

What the hell are these idiots there? Who called them there? Since we support Assad, how long will this circus endure ...