GSM networks will be included in the Russian air defense system

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Russian experts have learned to use the base stations of GSM mobile operators to detect UAVs, cruise missiles and small aircraft in the sky aviationflying at extremely low altitudes, report News.

GSM networks will be included in the Russian air defense system




The Roselectronic holding will show at the Army-2016 forum the Rubezh airspace monitoring system, which detects aircraft that have fallen into the electromagnetic fields of cellular base stations.

“This is an absolutely innovative solution that allows, without substantial investments, to multiply the capabilities of the Russian air defense and missile defense systems throughout the country,” said Igor Kozlov, General Director of Ruselectronics (part of Rostec).

According to him, the principle of operation of the “Frontier” is quite simple: “The cellular network is based on a continuous exchange of signals between transmitters and repeaters installed on cell towers. The result is a stable electromagnetic field. "

“If metal objects fall into the region of the electromagnetic field, at this moment the receiving elements of the base stations immediately record the change in the field. Using the Doppler effect and the method of triangulation, "Boundary" with high accuracy determines the coordinates of the object and its position in space, analyzing the signals of base stations, recorded the change in the field "- said the source of the newspaper, familiar with the course of work.

“Frontier, having detected the target and identifying its class (aircraft, helicopter, rocket, or natural formations), transmits data over GSM networks to higher information collection points. For example, to the National Defense Center of the Ministry of Defense or the command centers of the control of anti-aircraft missile systems of the Aerospace Forces, ”the article says.

According to Kozlov, “Already, over the country there are more than 250 thousand base stations of mobile communication, and this network is constantly expanding.” “The average density of their placement is 11 units per square kilometer. This allows us to form a round-the-clock, multi-frequency, interference-free field for the location of air targets using the signal reflected from them with the ability to transfer data to the air defense and missile defense systems, ”he said.

The specialists explained to the publication that "Rubezh" will not be directly installed on GSM base stations - the terminals of the complex, connected to cellular networks, will be placed directly in control points of the air defense systems and missile defense and the National Center of Defense. "

“Such a system architecture will not require any additional costs on the part of cellular operators,” said Ruselectronics.

According to the developers, the system will be in demand in the civilian market, since it can “not only monitor civilian aircraft and helicopters, but also provide serious assistance in finding the crashed aircraft and even monitor fire safety.”
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  1. +13
    1 September 2016 11: 04
    You can go crazy. All cellular coverage will be part of the country's unified air defense system. M-yes!
    The specialists explained to the publication that "Rubezh" will not be directly installed on GSM base stations - the terminals of the complex, connected to cellular networks, will be placed directly in control points of the air defense systems and missile defense and the National Center of Defense. "
    Of course there won't be ha ha! bully
    I will supplement it now even with birds and not only can be counted online in where there is a cellular connection good
    1. +4
      1 September 2016 12: 37
      There is one caveat: in the event of a war between Russia and the United States + Europe (automatically), the first targets are communications and control points, so not only cell towers, but communications satellites will be destroyed in the first place. So this technique will not be a lot.
      This technique is more for local conflicts in a limited territory (Syria, Afghanistan, Colombia, etc.).
      1. jjj
        +2
        1 September 2016 12: 43
        About ten years ago, on the then popular resource "VIF-2", one of the interlocutors just spoke about such a possibility. He called it "shadow tracking" from an object in the radiation field of cellular stations. And the hardware is already ready
      2. +9
        1 September 2016 13: 11
        Cellular towers you will not get tired to destroy? hi
        1. +1
          2 September 2016 09: 56
          Apparently the man joked unsuccessfully:
          "According to Roskomnadzor, the number of base stations in Russia as of July 2016 is as follows:
          - 164 091 - MegaFon
          - 137 - MTS
          - 96 - T219 RTK (Tele2)
          - 95 928 - VimpelCom (Beeline) "
      3. +2
        1 September 2016 13: 54
        Something seems to me that in a major military conflict, all cellular communications will be disconnected in order to eliminate information leakage. And then such a line will become completely useless. This is essentially a peacetime system.
        1. 0
          2 September 2016 06: 40
          I don’t think that it’s turning it off - the states will need a 5th convoy and direct the rebels. Via facebook.
      4. +4
        1 September 2016 14: 11
        There is one caveat here, in the event of a war between Russia and the USA + Europe ...

        In this case, planet Earth will be destroyed and nothing will be needed! hi
      5. +1
        1 September 2016 17: 24
        Quote: juborg
        There is one caveat: in the event of a war between Russia and the United States + Europe (automatically), the first targets are communications and control points, so not only cell towers, but communications satellites will be destroyed in the first place. So this technique will not be a lot.

        You apparently read the article poorly: 250 thousand base stations! Even the United States does not have such a quantity of specialized high-precision missiles! Not to mention the insane cost of such a pile of weapons. Do not exaggerate the capabilities of the enemy!
      6. 0
        1 September 2016 18: 27
        The height from the surface of the earth of cellular stations is 5 km maximum, suppose a missile with a speed of 3000 km \ h is detected by the system, the question is how long does it take to destroy a rocket?
        It is rather not a missile defense or air defense, but a good means of controlling unregistered aircraft and drones at low altitudes ...
      7. 0
        1 September 2016 18: 30
        [/ quote] There is one caveat here, in the event of a war between Russia and the USA + Europe (automatically) the first targets are communications and control points, so not only cell towers, but communications satellites will be destroyed in the first place. [quote]


        Can you even imagine the destruction of ALL cell towers if there are more than a hundred of them (towers) only in a small, about 400 thousand inhabitants, city? And what does this have to do with communication satellites, which are used in cellular communications only for intercontinental connections of network operators. And the cell communicates with the cell via the RRS "relay".
      8. 0
        1 September 2016 22: 23
        Even one half of communication satellites will not be knocked down.
      9. 0
        2 September 2016 06: 27
        Quote: juborg
        There is one caveat: in the event of a war between Russia and the United States + Europe (automatically), the first targets are communications and control points, so not only cell towers, but communications satellites will be destroyed in the first place. So this technique will not be a lot.
        This technique is more for local conflicts in a limited territory (Syria, Afghanistan, Colombia, etc.).

        People, you forgot a couple of important nuances, namely:
        Cellular communication how much time already exists?
        Whose production is cellular equipment?
        And the last question: On whose elemental base is it assembled ?!
        From the above questions, there is one conclusion, at least for me:
        In the event of a very large and serious mess, God forbid, of course, cellular communication will be cut off without our knowledge and not even ourselves, supposedly so that there are no leaks - it will be cut off by our dear "partners" - potential opponents!
        Someone will say what will be wrong ?!
    2. 0
      1 September 2016 13: 37
      My quadcopter under watchful attention sad
    3. +1
      1 September 2016 22: 29
      This is an absolutely innovative solution that allows without significant investments to increase the capabilities of the Russian air defense and missile defense system nationwide

      This decision is almost 20 years old. Lockheed Martin's first Sailat Sentry System was created back in 1997.
      1. +3
        2 September 2016 01: 29
        Quote: Vita VKO
        This decision is almost 20 years old.

        ... for more than 119 years, to be more precise ... hi
        In 1897, the Russian physicist A. S. Popov, during experiments on radio communications between ships, discovered the phenomenon of reflection of radio waves from a ship. The radio transmitter was mounted on the upper bridge of the Europe transport anchored, and the radio on the Africa cruiser. In the report of the commission appointed to conduct these experiments, A. S. Popov wrote:

        The effect of the ship's situation is as follows: all metal objects (masts, pipes, tackles) must interfere with the operation of the devices both at the departure station and at the receiving station, because when they get in the way of an electromagnetic wave, they violate its correctness, partly like how the brequator acts on an ordinary wave propagating over the surface of the water, partly due to the interference of the waves in them excited with the waves of the source, that is, they affect it adversely.
        ...The influence of an intermediate vessel was also observed. So, during the experiments between “Europe” and “Africa” the cruiser “Lieutenant Ilyin” hit, and if this happened at large distances, then the interaction of the devices ceased until the ships departed from one straight line.
        ... so Lockheed Martin, quietly smokes around the corner ... laughing
  2. +2
    1 September 2016 11: 04
    I did not understand what kind of dregs. Maybe the cellular engineers will explain.
    1. +16
      1 September 2016 11: 10
      The signal in any connection is transmitted from the transmitter to the receiver. When an object appears between the transmitter and receiver. The equipment records a change in the electric field. Well and accordingly fixes the coordinates of the object that made the change.
      1. +3
        1 September 2016 11: 17
        I remembered the Hollywood film "sea battle" where alien ships were calculated using sea buoys.
      2. +9
        1 September 2016 11: 19
        Quote: Alex_Tug
        I did not understand what kind of dregs. Maybe the cellular engineers will explain.

        Quote: BerBer
        The signal in any connection is transmitted from the transmitter to the receiver.

        ... absolutely right ... they talked about the possibilities of cellular networks for a long time, but quietly and there was no work ... earlier on this principle was made a radar "Barrier E", the so-called principle of transmissive radar ...
        The "Barrier-E" radar complex (RLC) is a fundamentally new type of radar weapon, using the method of bistatic location "in the light". Due to the "translucent" effect between the transmitter and receiver of the bistatic system, an area with an extremely high energy potential is formed - a radar barrier that makes it possible to reliably detect subtle targets that are inaccessible to detection by traditional monostatic radars. With radar "through" the effective scattering surface of targets increases by 2-3 orders of magnitude and does not depend on the presence of a radio-absorbing coating on them, that is, "stealth" targets are detected as usual. A distinctive feature of the complex is that the radiation of a radio relay station (RRS) transmitter is used as a sounding signal in the normal operating mode (communication, transmission of telecode information). The radiated power is only 1 - 3 W, which makes it possible to locate the radar near populated areas. The radar station forms a radar barrier several kilometers wide, continuous in height (from the ground up to 3 - 7 km) and a length of up to 400 - 500 km (up to 10 bistatic links can be combined). Source: http://www.rusarmy.com/pvo/pvo_vvs/rlk_barier-e.html
        ... hi
        1. +1
          1 September 2016 11: 47
          Radar complex (RLC) "Barrier-E"


          Everything is clear with the Barrier, there is equipment for processing.
          Do cell towers report somewhere to the center about a short-term change in communication quality?
          1. +2
            2 September 2016 01: 34
            Quote: Alex_Tug
            Do cell towers report somewhere to the center about a short-term change in communication quality?

            Quote: Article
            The specialists explained to the publication that "Rubezh" will not be directly installed on GSM base stations - the terminals of the complex, connected to cellular networks, will be placed directly in control points of the air defense systems and missile defense and the National Center of Defense. "
            “Such a system architecture will not require any additional costs on the part of cellular operators,” said Ruselectronics.
            ... the article, for this purpose, is written to read it, and not to browse ... hi
  3. +6
    1 September 2016 11: 05
    This is news, I'm just amazed! At home and every straw the enemy pricks a needle ?!
    1. +12
      1 September 2016 11: 20
      The Doppler effect has been known for a long time, but in order to use cell towers in this way ... There are simply no words, only our compatriots with their non-standard thinking could think of this. Bravo, cheap and very angry!
      1. +4
        1 September 2016 11: 30
        The next step will be the use of towers in the territory of the enemy. But this is silent.
        1. +5
          1 September 2016 11: 58
          Apparently already in use. In the Donbass from the LDNR, SMS messages are sent to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other Kiev near-war citizens, on the topic of bayonets in the ground and in houses. Previously, leaflets were scattered, but now there is GSM. Well, if they use it in this way, it means that there is full access for any other purposes.
      2. +7
        1 September 2016 11: 44
        Leviton Today, 11: 20 ↑ New
        "the Doppler effect has been known for a long time, but to use cell towers like that... There are simply no words before this, only our compatriots could think of with their non-standard thinking. Bravo, cheap and very angry!2 ...

        Hmm ... Great, of course ... And very timely ...
        However, this system will work only in peacetime, pre-war time and - in a matter of minutes or seconds at the outbreak of hostilities ... As soon as one or two relay (or worse - transmitting) towers in a certain region are damaged, the system will be overhanged .. .

        However, after the collapse of the Soviet air defense system and grid - THIS, the proposed option is indeed a cheap and angry version of its replacement at the present stage ...
        I was glad to hear about such news ...
        1. +5
          1 September 2016 11: 54
          For weksha50
          However, this system will work only in peacetime, before the war and - in a matter of minutes or seconds at the beginning of hostilities

          Offer to dig in advance? What did Comrade Sukhov say there? ...
          1. 0
            1 September 2016 19: 24
            sabakina
            "Suggest to bury in advance?"
            ..

            I advise you to read the full text before commenting ...
            In my comment at the end the following was written: "However, after the collapse of the Soviet air defense system and grid - THIS, the proposed option is indeed a cheap and angry option to replace it at the present stage."...
            "Glad to hear about such news"...

            And where did you see that I offered to "bury" in advance ??? !!! request
        2. +11
          1 September 2016 11: 59
          In wartime, this system will add 250 (ideally) potential targets to the enemy fellow
  4. +6
    1 September 2016 11: 06
    The news is great. The solution is simple and most importantly not very costly. This is Russian savvy brothers.
  5. +3
    1 September 2016 11: 24
    If metal objects fall into the area of ​​the electromagnetic field, at this moment the receiving elements of the base stations immediately record the change in the field. Using the Doppler effect and the triangulation method, Rubezh determines the coordinates of an object and its position in space with high accuracy, analyzing signals from base stations that have recorded field changes, ”said the newspaper's source familiar with the work progress.

    I'd like to know? Near the house is a GSM tower. When a truck or tall van passes between the house and the tower, the DVB-T2 digital television signal disappears. I wonder if this effect is working?
    1. +2
      1 September 2016 12: 14
      It seems that this particular one is a hindrance between the transmitter and receiver.

      Using sources of small interference on civilian cellular lines to detect enemy aircraft is truly brilliant.
      The only thing that bothers you is the accuracy of such detection if the base stations at the search point are less than 3.
      1. jjj
        0
        1 September 2016 12: 46
        In the village we have state digital television of the first multiplex. When heavy rain or lightning starts, the signal disappears
  6. +4
    1 September 2016 11: 28
    A curious method. In the same way, any other device can be calculated - a tank, a car, a sabotage group with weapons. In the city, of course, there will be problems, there is too much metal, but in rural areas, where there is less interference, they will be calculated at once.
  7. +3
    1 September 2016 11: 33
    There are no words ... the adversary is convulsing
  8. +2
    1 September 2016 11: 49
    I remember the Serbs in this way the Night Hawk cut its wings.
  9. +12
    1 September 2016 11: 51
    Interesting topic. Will they use Glonass by default, or will they add it later?
    Happy knowledge day for everyone!
    1. +1
      1 September 2016 12: 41
      Oh, sorry, I wrote nonsense feel . What does GPS have to do with cellular communications.
      And it is neither corrected nor deleted. Not much time is given for editing.
  10. +2
    1 September 2016 11: 58
    Normally.
    It is also necessary for the GPS to intercept and direct back unwanted flying objects.
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  12. +2
    1 September 2016 13: 12
    In wartime, it seems to me, there will be little sense, but in peacetime, for the Ministry of Emergencies and for tracking all kinds of spies like Rust there it is.
  13. 0
    1 September 2016 13: 23
    Quote: samoletil18
    Normally.
    It is also necessary for the GPS to intercept and direct back unwanted flying objects.

    https://topwar.ru/99744-sistema-radiopodavleniya-
    pole-21-prinyata-na-vooruzhenie-v-rossii.html
  14. +1
    1 September 2016 13: 43
    In the countries of Scandinavia, communication systems for radiolocation have been used for 15 years.
    1. +1
      1 September 2016 16: 17
      We have communication failures when talking in a moving car on the main highways of the country, there are areas without a cellular connection and a lot with a weak signal when the interlocutor "croaks". What do we use here?
  15. 0
    3 September 2016 05: 14
    Fig se. It turns out that the field is not only on the borders of the country, but also on the territory of the country itself.
    And if you can get into the stations of neighboring countries ...