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Voenkor "Mag" about the situation in the Donetsk Republic

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Blog chervonec_001 published another summary of the military officer "Mag" about events in the self-proclaimed Donetsk Republic.




The summary states, in particular:

“The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to tighten mercenaries and the national battalions. It is also open in the afternoon, it is sending a large amount of equipment, mainly artillery and self-propelled guns, on the railway and car roads.

18 July, Monday.
As usual, the shelling started the night before, closer to midnight, only gained strength.

In 00: 00, a large UAV was shot down over the Petrovsky district, residents of several areas saw and heard a short flash and the ensuing pop. After that, the APU with frenzy began to cover the Petrovsky and Kirov districts of 82-mm and 120-mm mines.

00: 35 continues the shelling of VSN positions in the area between Staromikhaylovka and the Airport.

01: 20 Under the cover of shelling by subunits of the 10-th OGShBR, another attempt was made to attack our positions north-west of Starikhailovka. Our intelligence during the time marked the advancement of the enemy and requested artillery support. The attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine collapsed before it began, while the Armed Forces suffered losses - three were killed and five wounded. The command of the DPR is negotiating to transfer the bodies of the dead soldiers of the 10 st.

01: 30 battles do not stop, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are firing machine guns, mortars and BMP-2 residential complex Petrovsky district. In the area of ​​Avdeevskaya promka and nuclear warheads (the Yasinovatsky block of the fast), battles have been going on for five hours now with different intensity.

In 02: 05, 120-mm min arrivals began, two “Nona” are operating from the Water district. Mines fall around 600 meters from my house.

02: 15 continues shelling of the Petrovsky and Kirovsky districts, the APU has connected howitzers D-30. 02: 20-02: Our 40 began to respond with arta, to the west of Krasnogorovka. According to residents in the positions of the battery APU can see a fire.

In 02: 50 Ours began to respond to the mortar batteries of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which had fired at Zaitsevo. Here is how the Ukrainian military leader Roman Bochkala writes about this: “I didn’t want to write, I hoped that it wouldn’t be confirmed ... But in the General Staff they say yes. Yesterday at 3 in the morning, between Zaytsevo and Mayorsky there was a direct hit in the position of the 53 team. We have loss: 4 "two hundredth" and 3 "three hundredth. In general, the situation in the Zaitsevo district has noticeably worsened. "

03: 00 all stopped, residents and the military went, finally, to sleep.

Early in the morning there was a storm warning. Around the 06: The morning's 00 started a strong wind that broke billboards and broke trees. Until the evening it was quiet, not counting the thunder on the horizon.

In 20: 50, a heavy bombardment of the YaBP (Yasinovatsky block post) began, several 120-mm mortar batteries and 122-mm howitzers were working at the same time. The shelling of the Petrovsky district began with the same intensity. From the center of the city there went a column of ambulances and fire engines.

At the same time, shelling of two villages north of Gorlovka began - Zaitsevo and Golmovsky. APU use AGS, grenade launchers and mortars, while without technology.

22: 30 The battles take place in the areas of the YaBP, Petrovsky district, north of Gorlovka and in the Svetlodarsk region. The Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions actively use small, 82-mm and 120-mm mortars and periodically arta.
23: 00 The battles take place on the southern front. The situation is a mirror, as in the Petrovsky district, the YaBP and Gorlovka. Everywhere small, mortars, attempts to crawl in small groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. During the day, the republic was fired 623 times. Kharkov hospital received 32 injured soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, many heavy

19 July, Tuesday.
00: 00 Fighting and shelling continue in the same direction, the APU widely used artillery. Petrovsky, Kirovsky districts of Donetsk and the floor of Gorlovka sit without electricity.

00: 30-01: 00 152-mm projectiles began to fall in the area of ​​the YPB (Yasinovatsky block post). 01: 20-01: 30 is our short response.

01: 30 continues fighting in the area of ​​the YaBP, the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to work, also Petrovsky district and Staromikhailovka village under heavy shelling. 01: The 40 of the Armed Forces of Ukraine made three volleys, two 152-mm shells each, arriving in the Kuibyshev district.

02: 00 APU tired and stopped firing.

17: 30 began a strong battle near the airport and the village of Spartak. On both sides are working snipers, small, AGS, grenade launchers, mortars. APU also used equipment.

21: 00 Gorlovka from the north and northwest under fire, mainly mortars 82-mm and 120-mm.
21: 50 Kuibyshev district plunged into darkness. After the shelling, one of the 120-mm mines hit the substation. Fighting is still continuing in the area of ​​the Airport, Spartak, YaBP.
22: The 00 DPR anti-aircraft gun shoots something knocked over my house.

22: 35 Gorlovka began to fire from three sides. Mainly arrivals from Dzerzhinsk.
In the area of ​​Svetlodarsk battles periodically erupt. 22: The 40 of the Ukrainian Armed Forces almost without interruption bombarded 122-mm and 152-mm shells against the northern suburbs of Donetsk, maybe they were also beating mortars, but because of the general rumble they were not heard. Not to mention rifle.

22: 40 under the cover of mortars and occasionally working equipment, the APU tried to break through our positions in the Svetlodarsk-Debaltsevo area. Fighters of the DPR observed movement north of Debaltseve near the village of Sanzharovka. Remembering the recent attempts at a breakthrough, the guys did not tempt fate and called for artillery support. A short artillery attack scattered the assault groups of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the battalions. Officially, the APU lost 15 killed and several dozen wounded. Ambulances between Svetlodarsk and Artyomovsk wound until the morning, taking the dead and wounded out.

22: 50 VSN began to give an answer through the line Water - Skilled - Avdiivka. In 23: 50 responded again on the same line. The APU immediately stopped shelling the airport - Spartak - YaBP.

During the day, the territory of the republic was subjected to 702 times. On this day, a BMP of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a landing force on board exploded a mine, 7 soldiers were killed and 14 was wounded. The hospital APU received 29 injured.

20 July, Wednesday
03: 30 Fight with the use of art in the area of ​​the warhead. Hit 120-mm mines in the substation, the neighboring Yakovlevka was left without light.
In the morning and in the afternoon it was quiet.
In 20: 20 in the Airport - Spartak - YaBP area, battles begin. Small, mortars 82-mm.
22: The 20 southern front in the Shirokino area started a battle. Our sniper shot the Azov spotter.
22: 30 APB under heavy artillery shelling, ours respond.
22: 45 South Front strong combat, mortars, art and technology. Residents of Donetsk, who came to rest on the sea in the village of Sedovo, could not enjoy the silence and every evening they hear arta from Shirokino.
This evening, there were fewer shelling, just a day the republic was fired 308 times. Kharkiv Hospital received 18 wounded soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

21 July, Thursday.
In fact, the whole day was quiet. Approximately in 15 hours the UAV appeared. Then came the arrivals 82-mm and 120-mm min. Work of memory and BMP.
16: 00 over Gorlovka. The DPR air defense system shot down a large UAV.
18: 20 APM under shelling snipers, AGS and mortars.
19: 00 started the fight Marinka - Petrovsky district. Work mortars on both sides. APU periodically use a pair of "Non."

20: 40 APU long-range artillery beating at the airport - Spartak - Oktyabrsky. Several 122-mm projectile arrivals in the Putilov Forest (Kievsky District).
20: Our artillery 50 is trying to suppress the siege batteries of the APU.
21: 20 Petrovsky district suffers from heavy shelling. APU beating on residential areas.
22: 15 There is continued strong fighting in the areas of the airport, Spartak, YaBP, Gorlovka. Armed Forces of Ukraine apply all types of weapons from small arms, arts to armored vehicles. 23: 20 is a distant frequent cannonade.

23: 20 northern suburbs of Donetsk under heavy artillery shelling of the APU. Kuibyshevsky Kiev districts without electricity.
23: 40 again cannon. The APU operates in squares, flies closer and closer.
During the day, the republic was fired 640 times. Kharkov hospitals took 20 wounded soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

22 July, Friday.
00: 00 Donetsk continues to suffer from heavy shelling. In 01: 30 has gone quiet.

In 20: 20, snipers began exchanging gunfire, exchanging mortar attacks in the airport and AB area.
21: 05 with the direction of Troitskoe began to fly 122-mm projectiles through the mines southwest of Horlivka.
With 22: 40, our art immediately send messages from several directions to the APU batteries.
22: 50 in a southerly direction are firing on the positions of the VSN in the Kominternovo region.

23: 00 Fighting and shelling all along the front line, all types of weapons work - small arms, AGS, grenade launchers, chargers, mortars, art, MLRS (not full packages), equipment.

23: 10 our art is responsible for the APU batteries in the Avdiivka area. Positions show fire and detonation!

23: 15 Kuibyshev district under fire. Gorlovka - south, south-west, west local fights. We bring down UAV APU.

23: 25 Sands - Airport battle, mortars and art cover up a small assault group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is trying to attack our positions. VSN repulsed the attack.

In just one day, the republic was fired 351 times. Kharkov hospitals took 12 wounded soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

23 July, Saturday.
00: 55 shelling of the Petrovsky district and Staromikhailovka continues.

From 01: 50, every 30 seconds, cannonad is heard in the Kuibyshev district. With 02: ArtNuell started XDUMX, every two seconds there are pros and cons. Flashing light.

05: 00 is heard short fight near the airport
06: 00 battle near Shyrokino
07: 40 Sands - Airport heavy shelling mortars. Since the winter of 2015, there has been no such thing so that there is a fight a few hours early in the morning and then shelling.

APU tried to make a breakthrough early in the morning. The calculation was a surprise, because everyone is waiting for evening and night battles, and early in the morning and in the afternoon they sleep off. Nevertheless, the attack fell, the APU lost to 10 people killed, while trying to penetrate the front line near the airport. Our intelligence service noticed an accumulation of infantry in the Skilled area and waited for permission from the command to open fire. After half an hour, the person began to move in the number of 12 units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the VSN command gave the go-ahead to liquidate the enemy, as a result of which the APU lost up to 10 dead.

09: 00 battles and firing mines began in Avdeevskom promka. As they say friends in the militia - We have our own Syria and Aleppo.

10: Troitskoe 00 also began fighting and exchanging mortar courtesies. Hours in 11 all front calmed down until the evening.

17: 30 Staromikhaylovka under fire from mortars.
19: 30 shooting battle Verkhnetretskaya - Red Partizan
20: 30 Petrovsky district, Staromikhaylovka battles, mortar shelling.
20: 30 north of Gorlovka APU are shelling the village of Zaitsevo.
20: 30 YaBP battle and mortar attacks.
22: 00 in all major areas of fighting and shelling.

During the day, the republic was fired 610 times. 18 wounded were admitted to Kharkov hospitals, many were heavy.

24 July, Sunday.
The night, surprisingly, was quiet.

13: 30 bombardment of the YaBP and the Airport area from mortars 82-mm and 120-mm
14: 40 The fights in the areas of the Airport, Spartak and YaBP do not stop. Serious shelling is the positions of the BCH.

19: The 00 northern districts of Donetsk are well aware of the fighting near the Airport - Spartak - YaBP. On the positions of the republic dozens of mines and shells are flying, in the sky of Donetsk several anti-aircraft guns drive anti-aircraft guns. Baghdad some, and not Donetsk. A very strong cannonade near the airport lasts almost two hours.

21: The 20 battle does not stop in the areas of Airport - Spartak - YaBP. The artillery of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is rampant. A salvo of two shells, then 5-6 seconds quietly and again two 152-mm shells fly in.
21: 40 under Shirokino a strong battle with the use of art on both sides.
22: 15 in the north of Gorlovka is a shooting battle.

In 23: Our 50 began to give an answer on the long-range artillery of the APU. The last time they were covered in February of this year. In the area of ​​the village Zhelanoe there are two batteries Msta-B 55 of the APU brigade. One of them and covered in the night from Sunday to Monday. As a result, the 1 gun was completely destroyed, three badly damaged. Losses of the APU amounted to 11 dead and 18 injured.

During the day, the republic was fired 570 times. Kharkiv hospital received 24 wounded fighter, almost all heavy.

As you can see, the number of battles and shelling has increased significantly. A lot of dead and wounded. The goals that the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine puts before its brigades raise big questions. For a week, the APU lost several dozen killed and up to a hundred wounded. For the sake of what, it is not clear.

All patience and health! ".
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  1. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 28 July 2016 09: 49
    +1
    What to say? Nothing. I want to spit on Surkov’s face with his accomplices and his roof.
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 28 July 2016 10: 01
      +11
      Babama hunt in mug spit!
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 28 July 2016 11: 19
        0
        Both that, and another.
    2. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 28 July 2016 10: 12
      +10
      Surkov does not make a decision. What a spit. And when analyzing, they use data from several sources. So it's not time yet. Very sorry. First of all, people who die on the wish list of Bandera’s scum
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 28 July 2016 10: 33
      +16
      Greetings to the readers of the VO site. At the top of my bulletin there is a direct link to the blog of Chervonets, there is my bulletin with videos and photos in full.
      http://chervonec-001.livejournal.com/1471893.html

      I will answer any questions.
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 28 July 2016 11: 40
        +1
        We can’t watch such films.
      2. Pavel Tsybai
        Pavel Tsybai 28 July 2016 11: 48
        +1
        I understand I am not completely familiar with the information. My question is a little off topic. Surkov what would he not say now, help?
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 28 July 2016 19: 28
          +2
          Quote: Pavel Tsybay
          I understand I am not completely familiar with the information. My question is a little off topic. Surkov what would he not say now, help?

          Marmots helps in everything. Everything that goes to the Donbass from pensions to shells is Surkov's job.
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 28 July 2016 21: 29
            0
            Thanks for the info. Online find for spy.
          2. Svyatoslavich
            Svyatoslavich 29 July 2016 13: 33
            0
            Everything that goes to the Donbass from pensions to shells is Surkov's job.
            This is shitty.
            No one else to trust?
            It is doubtful ...
  2. Telakh
    Telakh 28 July 2016 09: 49
    +3
    Correct please.
    The summary, in particular, saysьcamping:
  3. klaus16
    klaus16 28 July 2016 09: 53
    +15
    When the same it should stop! I'm afraid to offer, but there should be a way out. The real one has the feeling that until you give in the face - they will be bullied. It’s bad that we are losing our people. Patience and good luck to you brothers Novorosy !!!
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 28 July 2016 14: 38
      +4
      Quote: klaus16
      that until you give in the face - and they will be bullied. It’s bad that we are losing our people.

      Banderloga Pastor (Turchinov) complained the other day that new weapons, such as shock drones and corrected 120-mm mines ("Edge"), are being tested against them, the Banderlog and those who joined them.
      If the pastor does not breach, then it is good!
      More tests, good and different, you see, and the Minsk agreements will go like a grease: amnesty, and the constitution, and special status, and the Svidomites themselves will eventually disappear like smoke.
  4. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 28 July 2016 09: 57
    +6
    It’s very hard from all this. Summary of July 18.07, but it comes earlier.
    Thanks for covering the situation.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 28 July 2016 11: 50
      +2
      Quote: Reptiloid
      It’s very hard from all this. Summary of July 18.07, but it comes earlier.
      Thanks for covering the situation.

      In the blog of Chervonets, the summary itself is for the previous weeks.
  5. sergey2017
    sergey2017 28 July 2016 09: 59
    +1
    Poroshenko will finish badly! How much can you tolerate? The patience of the DPR and LPR "will soon burst" and then it will be possible to forget about the Minsk agreements! Full-scale hostilities will begin!
  6. novel66
    novel66 28 July 2016 10: 01
    +13
    there was a wonderful passage from sir nexus on the topic "got it !!" and this is tak.really we can not from our territory than nito high-precision on ukrovsky art positions to hrenaknut, and say that every time it will be in the firing of residential areas. well, all the same the aggressors ....?
    1. Erg
      Erg 28 July 2016 10: 18
      +15
      This thought haunts me for a long time. Cover the demons for the most do not indulge! Then enable psaking.
      1. Altona
        Altona 28 July 2016 10: 39
        +4
        Quote: Erg
        This thought haunts me for a long time. Cover the demons for the most do not indulge! Then enable psaking.

        ------------------
        Let's get a Boeing to boot. American satellites will photograph our activity. And on the Ukrainian side there will be a bunch of material evidence in the form of nozzles and stabilizers of our missiles.
        1. Erg
          Erg 28 July 2016 11: 48
          +4
          Our special services will have to joke and get "persing" or ... In general, it's not for me to teach them. Let's blame everything on the puppies - they say, they fired at themselves. We must beat the enemy with his own weapon. Otherwise, we will constantly make excuses. Let them prove that they did not fire themselves. wassat One must be in the trend, so to speak, at the forefront of the fighters for European values.
        2. novel66
          novel66 28 July 2016 14: 13
          +3
          so, in fact, not to hide - so to speak, in response to the shelling of residential areas, and we will continue
          1. novel66
            novel66 28 July 2016 15: 35
            +4
            By the way, this can be explained by Russia's contribution to the implementation of the Minsk agreements (in particular, on the cessation of shelling)
    2. You Vlad
      You Vlad 28 July 2016 10: 27
      +2
      I also thought about it! So that there was no empty space left for technicians not people! Only not from my territory.
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 28 July 2016 13: 48
        0
        Although these nonhumans will pick up new people on people!
  7. Edvagan
    Edvagan 28 July 2016 10: 03
    +3
    I’m not special, but I don’t understand the meaning of the attack on the LPR positions by small assault groups of 10-20 people each. Only people lose ....
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 28 July 2016 10: 35
      +1
      I’m not special, but I don’t understand the meaning of the attack on the LPR positions by small assault groups of 10-20 people each. Only people lose ....

      I also did not wear epaulets, did not shoot at anyone. I would venture to suggest that this is reconnaissance in combat probing weaknesses.
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 28 July 2016 12: 02
      +3
      I’m not special, but I don’t understand the meaning of the attack on the LDNR positions by small assault groups of 10-20 people each. Only people lose .... ,,
      I’ll tell you how to see me: it was declared (in Ukraine) that there was a war with the aggressor. Naturally, losses were coming from here. Suppose they stop shooting tomorrow, we’ll have to explain why they shot before. In combat, it’s easier to push new tariffs and prices (because war is hard for everyone) at the same time constantly beg for money, FOR WAR, and cut them to cut.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 July 2016 10: 04
    +7
    Nobody understands. Here is this very question at the end of the note. Why are they putting their soldiers in meaningless "reconnaissance in force". If this is not on purpose, the sacrifices are such as to show what a bloody war is going on with the aggressor (who did not come to the war). Another thing is surprising. How do they feed their soldiers that they so stubbornly climb to death without purpose and meaning?
    1. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 28 July 2016 10: 15
      -1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      How do they feed their soldiers that they so stubbornly climb to death without purpose and meaning?
      It seems like it's not a secret. Vitamins. It is not clear why they are eating.
    2. Edvagan
      Edvagan 28 July 2016 10: 16
      +2
      moreover, VSUshniki perish, not good
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 July 2016 10: 20
      -1
      Vodyary and coke probably pumped up.
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 28 July 2016 11: 25
        +1
        They do not allow the conflict to fade. There should be news about the next aggression of Russia! There are elections in America, now the elections will be held, the war will begin.
    4. Krasniy_lis
      Krasniy_lis 28 July 2016 13: 14
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What do they feed their soldiers

      pfff. Those who dine do not watch.
      https://vk.com/feed?w=wall-57424472_109612
      https://pp.vk.me/c543108/v543108579/1aafd/WdL8ar2AlVk.jpg
      https://pp.vk.me/c543108/v543108579/1aaf5/YzJ8c6r3-r0.jpg
      https://pp.vk.me/c543108/v543108579/1ab05/9IK5soOAqeA.jpg
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 July 2016 10: 04
    +8
    the number of battles and shellings increased at times

    Diplomacy is certainly a good thing, but within reasonable limits. I would like to write (but I think that some people will not understand correctly) - it can deliver a preemptive massive artillery-missile strike at places of concentration of used equipment and manpower and put a bullet in it. The reaction of the West to events in this region will still not change - as it was pro-Ukrainian, it will remain so. And Russia will always be to blame because it is Russia.
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 28 July 2016 10: 58
      +2
      If they stood in a clean field, there would be no questions ... and only peaceful ones would be crushed for anything in vain.
  10. engineering
    engineering 28 July 2016 10: 13
    +1
    The Armed Forces General Staff continues to pull together mercenaries and national battalions. Also, openly, during the day, throws a large amount of equipment, mainly artillery and self-propelled guns, along railways and highways.

    When such open preparations for military operations are underway, nothing good can be expected, such an accumulation of mercenaries and national battalions, the Kiev junta will not feed for free. For some reason, it suggests that the mattresses told the junta fas.
  11. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 28 July 2016 10: 25
    +8
    I sympathize with the doctors of Kharkov, who have to treat unfinished crested thugs, who just for the fact that you speak Russian begin to be rude and threatening.
  12. Abbra
    Abbra 28 July 2016 10: 26
    +4
    All these attacks by small groups pursue only one goal - to accuse the authorities of the LPR and the DPR before the West of an escalation of tension.
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  14. sergey2017
    sergey2017 28 July 2016 11: 23
    +2
    Washington did not have a backup plan. This is obvious because Poroshenko repeats everything and repeats the same thing, expecting a different result. This suggests that plan B is missing. Either Ukraine will lure Russia into Ukraine and drag it into conflict, or the neocon plan will fall apart. Therefore, Russia needs to help the DPR and LPR and just sit quietly waiting. Russia will win because the EU needs Russian gas. The European allies are facing the most serious challenges, since the post-war balance based on the French-German partnership is in danger. If energy supplies stop or drop sharply, prices rise, the EU slides back into the swamp of recession, and Washington will be to blame.
    1. VSZMK
      VSZMK 28 July 2016 11: 45
      +1
      The EU will slide back into the swamp of recession, and Washington will be to blame.
      So Fashington SPMT and sees it !!!
  15. samoletil18
    samoletil18 28 July 2016 11: 51
    0
    For some reason, migrants are being brought to Europe, the bill for millions is already! Support for the hot phase of the conflict in the Donbass, supporting migration to Europe from Ukraine. The fourth Reich decided to take advantage of the experience of the third in attracting free labor? And the attacks there are already like in Iraq - every day ... From Bandera, there are good guards of concentration camps: stupid and cruel. The people themselves will bring the Nazis to power, and they know what to do.
  16. Wolka
    Wolka 28 July 2016 11: 52
    +1
    it’s hot, however, but the task is apparently the same, not to get involved in major warfare, to purposefully knock out enemy artillery and armored vehicles and manpower with the return fire, to destroy the DRG everywhere ...
  17. ksv36
    ksv36 28 July 2016 12: 37
    0
    We would have to throw the EW funds to the guys. And they are good for the military and check combat equipment.
  18. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 28 July 2016 12: 39
    +3
    Trump has just said that if he is elected President of the United States, he will consider the issue of recognizing Crimea as RUSSIAN !!! Well, we wish "Comrade Trump" to win the election and become the 45th President of North America! Can you imagine how it was "banging" in Kiev now? Well, guys, did you squint? For you, bananas from Obams are mute ?!
  19. ksv36
    ksv36 28 July 2016 12: 50
    +2
    Quote: KudrevKN
    Trump has just stated that if he is elected US President, he will consider the recognition of Crimea RUSSIAN !!!


    In the race, they say anything. Only then the words do not agree with the deed.
    1. Kudrevkn
      Kudrevkn 28 July 2016 13: 06
      +2
      The very fact of discussing this topic (the Crimean issue and the lifting of sanctions are on the agenda) already has a positive effect: there will again be disputes around Crimea - discussions "who is right and who is wrong"? Some Americans will stop categorically "endorsing" anti-Russian hysteria, turn on their brains! All the more so if they are rich and pragmatic Republicans, presidents and owners of large industrial enterprises. and finance. campaigns, corporations! In addition, immigrants from the USSR traditionally voted for the Republicans and their votes often become that "weight" for the "makeweight" on the scales of elections! So there is already a positive effect - another kick in the black ass of Obama and his visas to the citizen "Broshkina" Clinton ?!
  20. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 28 July 2016 13: 11
    +1
    No matter how I look at the bulletin, the bloody carousel in my head, through the looking glass, and now this. There, policemen from the 80s walk around Kiev, but here they cover houses with mines. There are rallies and politics of passable passions, and here corpses are taken out every day from both sides. People are used to it, everything is fine, as if they had not lived in one country for almost 100 years ..
  21. ksv36
    ksv36 28 July 2016 13: 13
    0
    We have their sanctions to one place. Russia needs cash injections into the budget. And the oil needle did it well.
  22. regdan
    regdan 28 July 2016 13: 14
    0
    For a week, the APU lost several dozen killed and up to hundreds wounded. For what, it’s not clear.

    What do you mean for what? What is not clear then? For the sake of Petya, drink, for the sake of Arseny the thief ... well, honestly, you ask some kind of children's questions ...
  23. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 28 July 2016 13: 53
    +6
    Quote: KudrevKN
    Some Americans will stop categorically "endorsing" anti-Russian hysteria, turn on their brains!
    How many Americans think your brain will turn on? Believe me, 99% ordinary Americans do not care whose Crimea, if they still know whose it was and where it is. I’m afraid that Trump will not find on the map without a hint.
    1. Kudrevkn
      Kudrevkn 28 July 2016 19: 48
      0
      Sorry! I believe you about "99% of ordinary Americans", but we are talking about the very top 1% of leaders who want to trade with the richest and largest country in the world - RUSSIA! After all, Crimea is only a pretext for imposing sanctions - there will be no pretext and there will be no sanctions! Trump just teases and infuriates the Democrats, while receiving not only moral pleasure, but also future material dividends from "friendship with the Russian Federation"! After all, do not forget, he is, first of all, a capitalist, and for “200% of the profit the capital will go to any crimes” (VIL, “Im. As the Highest Stage of Capitalism”). An example of Hammer's incredible wealth from friendship with the Bolsheviks and the exit through trade with the USSR from the Great Depression, the Republicans, in contrast to the Democrats, remember! Yes, and the current dominant position of the United States is entirely due to Russia and the USSR, forced to pay in gold for Lend-Lease in WWI and WWII? Or do you have a different opinion? Of course Trump is not our friend and never will be, but the pragmatist Trump is better than the hysterical Clinton, crazy from an unhealthy climax !?
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 28 July 2016 21: 56
        +1
        Understand you correctly said that Crimea is just an excuse! Crimea will not find another excuse! The fight is for our sovereignty and a multipolar world, America will not back down! And the fact that presidential candidates say this is the show. When the show ends, the same general line goes! Democracy The United States is the most democratic democracy on earth! It doesn’t matter how many votes a candidate gets, the electoral system decides! Is it worth thinking that this time will be different? No one knows for sure! But 80% that it will be so! Love with America happened only when we gave up all our interests! Uncle Vova correctly said: They don’t need partners, they need vassals!
  24. oldzek
    oldzek 28 July 2016 14: 49
    +11
    Trump said that Trump said it. But Assange said that the US election is an election between cholera and gonorrhea. And I agree with him.
  25. CKORPII
    CKORPII 28 July 2016 18: 34
    +2
    It seems that the Olympic Games that do not be hungry with dill