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The system of electronic military cards in September will be launched in full

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In September, Angstrem NPO intends to launch the electronic card system for servicemen in full, reports TASS the message of the general director of the company Alexey Bocharov.




651 thousand electronic cards have already been manufactured.

"Development work" Passport "is completed. A trial operation of the system is underway, and in September we will be ready to launch it in full. Switching to e-cards will allow the military to fully control access to protected objects and information resources, record and confirm rights to receive social, financial and other services, as well as control their actual provision to servicemen ”,
told Bocharov.

According to him, "89 thousand passports are already personalized and are being tested in the army."

He noted that "in fact, this is the beginning of testing electronic passports that are suitable for all citizens of Russia in the future." Thus, a new certificate is able to store “personal data of a person, electronic access keys, an electronic signature, as well as biometric data”.

Bocharov said that the card will be issued in the military registration and enlistment offices and then applied in military units and departmental institutions - medical and educational.

“Among the main useful functions are the access control system for facilities, power accounting, progress accounting and access to a unified information environment,” he added.

Comment of the general director of the Russian supplier of equipment for banks and retail INPAS Ilya Korobov: “Innovation will also become an automatic classification of military personnel. When it is necessary to confirm or be sure that this soldier has undergone any training with this or that equipment, he has permission to work with some kind of technology ... Modern technologies allow to make this card a multifunctional tool: an identifier, a certificate storage, tolerances and other service information ".
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  1. volot-voin
    volot-voin 26 July 2016 11: 20
    +8
    The main thing is that, as always, electronic databases would not be stolen. Any authority seeks total control over the population, but at best, spammers can use the system for advertising, and at worst, enemies. How vulnerable will the system be?
    At what the data can be stored in the database absolutely anything, like at a school, I fought, pulled a girl for a scythe, called the politician an earthworm, farted at a meeting ....
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 July 2016 11: 27
      +27
      I just listened to the radio in the car (I don't remember the wave), so there they betrayed the "main news for this hour": the first is about an electronic card for military personnel, and the second is "main" - a Moscow student gamer, collected all the "Pokemon" (the first in world) ... now wants to sell his account for 600 rubles. I quietly "lose weight" from the "main news" of the country ... have sunk ...
      1. svp67
        svp67 26 July 2016 11: 36
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        I quietly "lose weight" from the "main news" of the country ... have sunk ...

        hi
        Nevertheless, this is better than hearing that somewhere something exploded, fell, someone killed someone, stabbed, ate ...
        1. Temples
          Temples 26 July 2016 11: 42
          +12
          I quietly "lose weight" from the "main news" of the country ... have sunk ...

          And last week I bought my nephew berets.
          The statutory collapsed after a month of his service.
          Then they said buy it yourself.
          Well grandfathers gave their salagah.
          Otherwise, barefoot)))
          I'm quietly "losing weight" from such support in the country's Armed Forces ... have sunk ...

          But electronic cards will be mastered !!!
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 26 July 2016 11: 59
            +5
            Quote: Temples
            And last week I bought my nephew berets.
            The statutory collapsed after a month of his service.
            Then they said buy it yourself.
            Well grandfathers gave their salagah.
            Otherwise, barefoot)))
            I'm quietly "losing weight" from such support in the country's Armed Forces ... have sunk ...

            I served in the early 80s - nothing has changed, apparently. I, too, pitying me (I knocked down my legs, in new boots for "dukhanka" - fuck!), "grandfathers" gave the boots hidden, used but the kindest - saved my feet, ( "gnarled" boots - thrown away) is grateful, so far. hi
            1. Temples
              Temples 26 July 2016 12: 55
              0
              An interesting one who put a minus for this.

              I don’t give a damn, the motive of this person is interesting.
              What offended the poor fellow?
              1. faridg7
                faridg7 26 July 2016 14: 14
                0
                Perhaps this poor fellow is directly related to the procurement of those berets for boys
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 26 July 2016 17: 16
                  +1
                  Quote from the article
                  "In fact, this is the beginning of testing ELECTRONIC PASSPORTS, in the future suitable for ALL CITIZENS of Russia." So the new identity is able to store "Personal data of a person, electronic access keys, electronic signature, as well as biometric data."
                  Bocharov said that the MAP will be issued at the military registration and enlistment offices and then used in military units and departmental institutions - medical and educational.
                  “Among the main useful functions are the access control system for facilities, power accounting, progress accounting and access to a unified information environment,” he added.
                  Comment by general director of the Russian supplier of equipment for banks and retail INPAS Ilya Korobov: “The innovation will also become an automatic classification of military personnel. When you need to confirm or be sure that this soldier has undergone any training with this or that equipment, has access to work with some equipment ... Modern technologies make this card a multifunctional tool: an identifier of identity, a storehouse of certificates, admissions and other official information. ”

                  All this should be considered as an offensive of the “world government” on Russia - and, above all, on its Armed Forces.
                  Some of the Russian officials simply “surrendered” our military to foreigners. Under Stalin, for such a surrender of information about personal data of Russians, primarily about Russian military personnel, to world financiers - the Rothschilds and Rockefellers - Russian officials for treason, their homeland would simply be tried and shot.

                  See “Masons and an electronic concentration camp through cards and chips. Avi.” Posted on: 27 Mar. 2012
                  Rockefeller explained: "The main goal is to control the whole society ... Make bankers and the elite rule the world."


                  See “The Destruction of 90 Million Russians, Final Stage!” Posted on: 22 Sep 2014
                  G. Tsareva's speech at the conference "Latest events in Russia and the world. WATCH ALL !!! VERY IMPORTANT !!!"
                  from the 9 minute. 28.11.2015 https: //youtu.be/238iAsyvKW8? list = PLE ...
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              2. dmikras
                dmikras 26 July 2016 19: 51
                0
                I didn’t set a minus, but I’ll try to explain the minus
                I don’t know how with the berets, but with the boots it was basically so if the soldier doesn’t take care of himself including shoes (ingots for simple) then he will quickly kill new shoes (uniforms, etc.) or about ... t

                Poor poor fellow you are unfortunately not taught to pull the strap and you couldn’t explain the campaign
                Campaign shoes pro .. better (taken away) and good old grandfathers gave

                No offense who served?
          2. dauria
            dauria 26 July 2016 12: 01
            +1
            But electronic cards will be mastered !!!

            Yes, let’s go, where are we going ... Another concern is that the black-and-white ancient photos are lying around, they haven’t gone anywhere. And digital for various reasons lost a breakthrough ... request
            Although it would seem - what is easier to make copies?
            1. Temples
              Temples 26 July 2016 13: 00
              +1
              That's right, I noticed.

              The same crap.

              I try to print the most interesting.
          3. faridg7
            faridg7 26 July 2016 14: 03
            0
            Quote: Temples
            I quietly "lose weight" from the "main news" of the country ... have sunk ...

            And last week I bought my nephew berets.
            The statutory collapsed after a month of his service.
            Then they said buy it yourself.
            Well grandfathers gave their salagah.
            Otherwise, barefoot)))
            I'm quietly "losing weight" from such support in the country's Armed Forces ... have sunk ...

            But electronic cards will be mastered !!!

            I also sent money to my elder in the first shoe after two months of study, what they give out does not go for more than two months. However, in the Krasnodar School, the mess is not limited only to form
          4. Verdun
            Verdun 26 July 2016 14: 05
            +3
            Quote: Temples
            But electronic cards will be mastered !!!

            The idea of ​​introducing ubiquitous electronic control is beginning to pester. When paid parking was introduced in Moscow, as a resident of the center was forced to draw up relevant preferential documents. These benefits are one for each apartment. And then, if each of its owners is in shares, confirmation of consent is required. On the website of public services it was beautifully painted how to draw up documents by submitting an electronic application. Filed. Waited a month. At the last moment it turned out that the filing of an electronic application is impossible, since a personal signature of each of the owners of the apartment is required. Now every year I have to drag a disabled mother, who is already over ninety years old, to the EIRTs so that she puts a squiggle in the papers. This is not the only example when everything seems to be beautiful with an electronic service, but in reality it’s completely ...
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 26 July 2016 11: 53
          +7
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          I quietly "lose weight" from the "main news" of the country ... have sunk ...

          hi
          Nevertheless, this is better than hearing that somewhere something exploded, fell, someone killed someone, stabbed, ate ...

          yeah ... let it be better to get stupid further, collecting "Pokemon", maybe someday, THEY, THEIR-will strangle ... (I would like to) but your, colleague, position apparently: whatever the child is amused, just not to hang ... request we are degrading ... scary ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 26 July 2016 12: 15
            +3
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            we are degrading ... scary ...

            And that doesn't make me very happy. Although "plankton" is as it was, it will always be. What do you want if the State has no IDEOLOGY and has abandoned the function of education. That brings up the street and "a kind uncle from over the hill"
          2. AlexSK
            AlexSK 26 July 2016 12: 46
            +4
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            we are degrading ... scary ...

            I agree. It seems that degradation is leaps and bounds. I open the news of my city today and see the headline: "In the Green Grove, Krasnoyarsk teeth were knocked out while searching for Pokemon." I start reading: “The young man shared with the fans of the game the details of the beating. According to him, late at night he went outside in order to play the popular game “Pokemon Go.” I did not even read further. Idiocy.
        3. ava09
          ava09 26 July 2016 12: 48
          0
          (c) Still, this is better than hearing that somewhere something exploded, fell, someone killed someone, stabbed, ate ... (c)
          Lop-eared have heard, listen and will listen to what those in power will say through their mouthpiece (the media or SMRAD, if you like). In this material we are talking specifically about National Security, only so far from the comments it is clear that the "electorate" does not understand this, but is going to "master" ... In order not to go far for examples, a quote from this article: (c) By now 651 thousand electronic cards have already been made. (c) This "card system" will definitely be connected with Western payment systems, and there, believe me, they know how to use data. Someone will say: the West has long been controlling information through smartphones, chips and similar gadgets that have access to the World Wide Web, completely controlled by the NSA. But in such an important matter, double, triple duplication is only beneficial. As you may have guessed, not in our favor ...
        4. Verdun
          Verdun 26 July 2016 16: 02
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          Nevertheless, this is better than hearing that somewhere something exploded, fell, someone killed someone, stabbed, ate it.

          It’s just that everything continues as before: it explodes, falls, someone kills someone, cuts ... And at that time those who do not care, catch Pokemon. request
      2. BARKAS
        BARKAS 26 July 2016 11: 42
        +8
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        student gamer, collected all the "Pokemon" (the first in the world) ... now he wants to sell his account for 600 rubles. I quietly "lose weight" from the "main news" of the country ... have sunk ...

        I am not at all surprised at all the long-planned
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 26 July 2016 12: 00
          0
          Quote: BARKAS
          I'm not at all surprised

          alas "accordionist", alas ...
    2. svp67
      svp67 26 July 2016 11: 39
      0
      Quote: volot-voin
      The main thing is that, as always, electronic databases would not be stolen.

      Everything may be, just the first thing to do is to introduce a strict CRIMINAL responsibility for this. You look and the number of applicants will drop sharply.
      1. raid14
        raid14 26 July 2016 11: 57
        +3
        Databases of traffic police, passports, TIN, and other information constituting an official secret, can be bought or downloaded on the Web, I have not heard that anyone was punished for data leakage.
    3. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 26 July 2016 19: 09
      -1
      Quote: volot-voin
      The main thing is that, as always, electronic databases would not be stolen. Any authority seeks total control over the population, but at best, spammers can use the system for advertising, and at worst, enemies.

      Rhodeslav, do we have a really functioning electronic card system? Unfortunately, not yet. The Mir system does not work in any Krasnodar supermarket. It turns out that our department of the military commissariat gives each recruit a bank card of the company of a potential enemy. Somehow it turns out. Maybe I'm wrong, it would be nice. But I remember the times when there were problems with Sberbank cards due to their "import" origin. hi
    4. russkiy redut
      russkiy redut 26 July 2016 20: 39
      +1
      Total control over people. This is just the beginning. They want through a server to disconnect a non-liking person from the network and he will not even be able to buy products. Not for nothing right now all stores are switching to electronic payment.
  2. ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 26 July 2016 11: 23
    +3
    What if this data will fall into the hands of our "partners" as a result of a hacker attack, betrayal of officials or banal carelessness? So what's next?
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 26 July 2016 11: 30
      +6
      Quote: ramzes1776
      will fall into the hands of our "partners"?

      Partners will receive a base of blackmail for blackmail and recruitment.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 26 July 2016 12: 15
        +3
        Quote: volot-voin
        Quote: ramzes1776
        will fall into the hands of our "partners"?

        Partners will receive a base of blackmail for blackmail and recruitment.

        "partners" already know how much and where you spent money (thanks to the "visa" and mastercard "... do you know that with every operation you pay to the states? they even know the type of shitty sausage you buy ..) ...
        1. Warlock_r
          Warlock_r 26 July 2016 13: 17
          0
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          they even know the sort of shitty sausage you buy.


          If you have paranoia, this does not mean that you are not being watched.

          Where and how much - yes. And also when. And here on what - it’s you, old man, have gone too far. No, of course, theoretically, you can restore a check by a date-time-terminal. But no one will do this in streaming mode.
    2. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 26 July 2016 11: 49
      0
      Quote: ramzes1776
      What if this data will fall into the hands of our "partners" as a result of a hacker attack, betrayal of officials or banal carelessness? So what's next?

      If you thought about this, then the developers probably also asked themselves similar questions? Or are we only so smart here and care about the security of state secrets? winked
      1. volot-voin
        volot-voin 26 July 2016 12: 01
        +2
        Quote: viktorrymar
        If you thought about this, then the developers probably also asked themselves similar questions?

        The system will certainly be super secure, but it will be stolen and sold. Do you doubt it? The Americans were tying the secrets of nuclear weapons, and you are talking about the database.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 26 July 2016 12: 05
        +1
        Quote: viktorrymar
        If you thought about this, then the developers probably also asked themselves similar questions? Or are we only so smart here and care about the security of state secrets?

        yomayo! Are you kidding? (Sorry for YOU) Yes, on our website, Expert on Expert! We know the FSE! We will answer questions on the FSE! and even correct S. Lavrov! (Cho there Medvedev ...) fellow
  3. Alex66
    Alex66 26 July 2016 11: 28
    +10
    What if the card is lost, maybe it’s better to immediately chip under the skin or a barcode on the forehead?
    1. svp67
      svp67 26 July 2016 11: 37
      +8
      Quote: Alex66
      What if the card is lost, maybe it’s better to immediately chip under the skin or a barcode on the forehead?

      I think this will be the next step ...
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 July 2016 12: 17
      0
      Quote: Alex66
      What if the card is lost, maybe better right away chip under the skin
      maybe better right away HERE ??? Both the CHIP and the CARD !!!
  4. Massik
    Massik 26 July 2016 11: 38
    +4
    Another nonsense ... That's how a similar system works in practice ...
    In some part of 62295 or kindergarten "Parachute" as it is more convenient to anyone, each employee of the contract service standing on the allowance puts his finger in the dining room. So that the system does not credit him with absenteeism. If, on the other hand, jumps or other business, or maybe not business necessity, does not allow you to attend a meal, then 300 rubles will fly off the salary of the given office. This is the optimization of food consumption.
    That is, not only did not eat, but also lost in money.
    1. svp67
      svp67 26 July 2016 12: 10
      +1
      Quote: Marssik
      That is, not only did not eat, but also lost in money.

      That is, I ate twice ... Cool. Actually, you have to deal with this. Since there is either a hole in the program, or not the ability to use it. People sent to jumps or on a business trip in general must pass by order, which means their "status" in the program must be changed.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 July 2016 12: 22
      +2
      Quote: Marssik
      Another nonsense.

      looks like nonsense ... the foreman does not know the "expense"? to drive under such a "petty officer"! our DAD, until he fed everyone and put him to bed, did not leave the unit, the real was the foreman. even though he was a warrant officer, he liked it when they turned to Comrade Sergeant-Major. The real Father was a soldier. (Hardly alive already ... the elderly was in 81st year ...) soldier
      1. Massik
        Massik 26 July 2016 16: 29
        +1
        Let's not confuse 81st and 2016. You know different realities.
        We served and thought "here in the BB it is a mess, but in the Ministry of Defense everything is not so" it turns out that we were still fine until recently. Take the same sports room from us, just train, even if you live there, no one will say a word. In VeDeV, on the contrary, first drive a ruble, then it will be allowed for an hour a day. Someone jumps, someone buys jumps, someone hands over physical, and someone does not ... and off we go.
  5. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 July 2016 11: 41
    +7
    Quote: Alex66
    What if the card is lost, maybe it’s better to immediately chip under the skin or a barcode on the forehead?

    I don’t know who thought of a card that a soldier will have on a regular basis and outside the garrison, screw up internal object data, here you have a pass to sensitive objects (zones) and power accounting and performance and ..... As always, the idea is correct, and then a hodgepodge in the slop!
    Oh this is not good!
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 26 July 2016 11: 53
      +3
      If bank cards are faked, the data is relatively easy to steal, what to expect here? We have introduced electronic passes, but as it turned out, with a pass that is always on hand, you can make a copy as with a key for the intercom (and actually go with such an intercom clone). Now they stand and force them to show the pass in the checkpoints, the pictures on the computer are not enough, the security service is nervous ... Well, they would make cards for conscripts for the dining room, tea rooms, but
      The transition to electronic cards will allow the military to completely take control of access to protected objects and information resources, to record and confirm the rights to receive social, financial and other services, as well as to control their actual provision to the military
      it is something! The State Department and the CIA should reward the initiators.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 26 July 2016 12: 26
        +1
        Quote: Per se.
        it is something! The State Department and the CIA should reward the initiators.

        but you are right, electronics cannot be trusted, they will rip out, steal and use. at first glance, the technology of the future, so serious ... but so defenseless ... military "hackers" are driving ...
  6. raid14
    raid14 26 July 2016 11: 43
    0
    The dream of the world government in action, the system of total surveillance of citizens with their "voluntary" consent, otherwise, without EC, you (censorship) are not human.
  7. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 26 July 2016 12: 04
    +2
    And what if the war? And, accordingly, a total outage ...
  8. koksalek
    koksalek 26 July 2016 12: 31
    +3
    Quote: ramzes1776
    What if this data will fall into the hands of our "partners" as a result of a hacker attack, betrayal of officials or banal carelessness? So what's next?

    Sberbank has long been successfully transmitting all our Pers.information to our enemy.
  9. iouris
    iouris 26 July 2016 12: 53
    0
    Right. It is necessary to chip recruits and transfer the accounting of human and material resources to paperless carriers. But hackers must, of course, be fought.
  10. xant
    xant 26 July 2016 13: 04
    0
    Here in the news found:

    The Ministry of Defense goes to work with the military through personal electronic cards (PEC). According to Alexstr Bocharov, the general director of Angstrem NPO, told Izvestia, the company has already manufactured 651 thousand of such devices, 89 thousand of which are personalized and are being tested by the troops. With the advent of electronic cards in the military, they count on improving personnel and financial work, as well as on strengthening security measures in the handling of documents, weapons and permits for secret objects. In fact, as noted in Angstrom, this is the beginning of testing "electronic passports", which in the future are suitable for all citizens of Russia.

    “The Passport development work has been completed,” Alexei Bocharov told Izvestia. - Now the trial operation of the system is underway, and in September we will be ready to launch it in full. The transition to electronic cards will allow the military to completely take control of access to protected objects and information resources, to record and confirm the rights to receive social, financial and other services, as well as to control their actual provision to the military.

    As noted by Alexei Bocharov, PEC makes it possible to store personal data of a person, electronic access keys, electronic signature, as well as biometric data. The card will be issued at the military commissariats, and will be used already in military units, in departmental medical and educational institutions. Among the main useful functions is the access control system for facilities, power accounting, performance monitoring and access to a single information environment.
    The project infrastructure covers the whole country. At the first stage, in 2016, almost 500 objects will be included in it. During 2017-2019, several thousand more objects will be included in the system.
  11. xant
    xant 26 July 2016 13: 07
    0
    The editor of the journal Arsenal of the Fatherland, Viktor Murakhovsky, told Izvestia that the appearance of personal electronic cards of a military serviceman marks a transition to a new technological level of work with personal information.

    “The paper-based identification card or metal badge worn around the neck that exists today has the sole purpose of identifying a soldier,” Murakhovsky told Izvestia. - At the same time, with the introduction of an automated command and control system, starting from the level of the Defense Command Center to the tactical level, a whole series of complex tasks arise for authorizing access and generally the rights of a soldier to make decisions and issue orders when conducting combat operations in a situation-centric war, when all army control is tied to digital signal transmission systems.

    The description of the soldier’s electronic personal token was registered in the patent bank under No. 133630 “Automated system for the control of identification of military personnel using a personal electronic token” back in 2013. Patent holder - Federal State Treasury Institution “27th Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense”. The description says that this is a personal electronic device having a module for receiving, synchronizing and transmitting information by scanning. According to Izvestia, the introduction of electronic tokens was planned to begin in the 2014 spring draft. However, this did not happen due to the unavailability of domestic microchips. The prototype used a French chip.

    “Replacing a personal metal token with a smart card will allow us to combine a number of documents required by the military, in one chip,” said Ilya Korobov, general director of INPAS, a Russian supplier of banking equipment and retail. - For example, an identity card, an admission to an object, appropriate access to classified information, work with appropriate equipment. This will become his automatic classification when it is necessary to confirm or be sure that this soldier has undergone any training with this or that equipment, has permission to work with some equipment. Modern technologies make this card a multifunctional tool: an identity identifier, a store of certificates, approvals and other official information.

    According to Ilya Korobov, almost any amount of information can be recorded on a token card. Modern smart cards come in 64 kilobytes.

    “In fact, more is not necessary,” the expert noted. - Even from the point of view of providing protection against hacks, creating cryptographic protection algorithms, including information protection at the request of GOST for power structures, this amount of memory is excessive.

    In the case of the introduction of the PEC, the Russian defense department keeps up with the most technologically advanced armies in the world. Not so long ago, information on the development of electronic tokens was released by the Israeli army command. In the US Army, a system similar to PEC has already been implemented; it is called RAPIDS. The system maintains an extensive database with information about military personnel.

    “Now at least two Russian companies declare that they are completely ready for the production of domestic microchips,” said Ilya Korobov. - These are Angstrom and Mikron - absolutely Russian companies that, in addition, are preparing chips for the national payment system Mir. I am sure that in the case of individual military tokens, problems should not arise. They will be fully based on domestic technologies, microprocesses and software, which guarantees the necessary level of security of the information stored on them. Judging by the fact that the Ministry of Defense placed an order for the manufacture of a large batch, which covers almost the entire personnel of combat units, the problem with the chips has been resolved.
    1. Erg
      Erg 26 July 2016 15: 35
      +1
      Quote: xant
      preparing chips for the national payment system "Mir".

      Mir is our same payment system as the Russian Central Bank. lol Descend from heaven, sir. By the way, here many have noted that Chubais is "messing around." But no, I assure you. Soon everyone will have their own license plate. Only he will "hang" in his head. The isotope marker is named. Oh how.
  12. Erg
    Erg 26 July 2016 15: 50
    0
    By the way, "good" news. They made friends with Erdogan again. Well, not we, here, one-site residents, but, as it were, the whole of Russia ... I'm still - "I am retiring" belay
  13. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 July 2016 16: 30
    +2
    In service, even in the last century, for a good 15 years, I had to wander around the "boxes". The pass that you carry with you, by the way, you eat with it in the canteen outside the enterprise at a different rate, it is also served at the clinic and. etc. I passed it at the checkpoint of the enterprise, received an internal one - my own with a mass of seals and marks, then according to the "schedule". With this inner you will not be allowed out into the street.
    What prevented us from following the same principle with electronic cards? And the war, with its inherent confusion at the initial stage (one does not need to think that we are better and smarter than everyone else), misunderstandings with loss of cards (left at home, stuck in an ATM yesterday ...) and that's it, a fighter overboard! Not so, oh not so ... You can’t put all the eggs in one basket !!!
    1. Erg
      Erg 26 July 2016 21: 37
      0
      Quote: avg-mgn
      You can’t put all the eggs in one basket !!!

      Everything is so normal. Pass-through option. Moreover, while the people are discussing "innovations", under this doo-doo preparations are in full swing for the introduction of "barcodes" into the body. Don't worry - they've already taken care of everything for us. No one will be late for work wassat
  14. South
    South 26 July 2016 18: 45
    0
    Will the warriors stay or not?
    1. Erg
      Erg 26 July 2016 21: 40
      +1
      Will stay. I have, here, "Komsomolsky" remained. Someone had a party ticket in the closet ...