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Mass media: detachments of “coastal special forces” appeared in the Russian fleet

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As part of the Navy created 2 special forces, the soldiers of which must fight not only the enemy troops, but to commit sabotage on enemy targets located in the coastal zone, according to News with reference to a military source.

Mass media: detachments of “coastal special forces” appeared in the Russian fleet


According to him, “the newly created squads are equipped with Raptor boats capable of developing 80 km / h, as well as Tachyon unmanned aerial vehicles, which detect enemy combat swimmers at a depth of several meters from the air.”

“At present, two new detachments have already been created. One in the Pacific Ocean, the second in the Crimea, ”said the source.

He noted that while both units are experimental, their main tasks are both to cover their coast from enemy saboteurs and to send reconnaissance groups to the rear of the enemy.

“Now we are checking their organizational and staffing structure, as well as boats,“ drones ”and other weapons and military equipment, which will be used by the detachments in the future, the source added.

On the organizational structure and armament of coastal special forces, as well as the planned number of new military units in the Navy, is not reported.
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  1. Bdeshh
    Bdeshh 25 July 2016 13: 15
    +11
    The special forces in the Crimea, the most it is possible to wrap a bolt with a reverse thread in the bottom of Potroshenko and he will not seem enough laughing wassat .
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 25 July 2016 13: 25
      +5
      So soon Porosenko will begin to inform the whole world about Russian saboteurs caught in the coastal zone. Valorous, everyone who knows how, ukrovoyaki can not help but catch all the strangers.
      1. captain
        captain 25 July 2016 13: 36
        +6
        The main thing is that the name would correspond to reality. And it will be like with the Marine Corps, all the coastal forces of the Navy in the form of the Marine Corps, even the guard battalions.
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    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 25 July 2016 13: 42
      +10
      I always thought that the marines are special forces or, at the very least, they always have units for the protection of our bases. And to attack other people's bases and land on the shore, in my opinion all the marines fall.
      1. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 13: 50
        0
        Marines and are special forces


        The very word marines says that they are special forces. When they understood to land motorized riflemen from the sea, a shitty occupation created units of the marine.
        1. lukke
          lukke 25 July 2016 14: 23
          +4
          The very word marines says that they are special forces. When they understood to land motorized riflemen from the sea, a shitty occupation created units of the marine.
          To make a marines a motorized rifle is a matter of several days. The main stream of officers in the marines was after the end of LenVOKU, etc. In fact, this is the same infantry, but with a more severe selection, wider range of tasks, special traditions and a glorious history.
          1. Alex_Tug
            Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 14: 29
            0
            To make a marines a motorized rifle is a matter of several days.


            Change clothes in a few days? And training, exercises? The preparation is a little specific.
            1. lukke
              lukke 25 July 2016 14: 41
              +4
              Change clothes in a few days? And training, exercises? The preparation is a little specific.
              There are a number of features, familiarization with them and takes several days - which I wrote about. A motorized rifle do not have exercises? And the terrain they have from the planet Mars?
              1. Alex_Tug
                Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 14: 48
                +3
                A motorized rifle do not have exercises?

                The argument is about nothing. Read the history of the creation of the Marine Corps. Motorized riflemen failed in exercises the landing from the sea. Then an urgent decision was made to create a marine corps.
                1. Drzed
                  Drzed 26 July 2016 05: 12
                  -1
                  You yourself would like to read the story of the creation of the Marine Corps
                  The army (troops) that followed the water, on the ships were called - Glavnoe army. In February 1656, in the Smolensk district, in the upper reaches of the Dvina, under the leadership of the governor Semyon Zmeev, the construction of smooth rati (army fleet) ships (ships) of 600 planes began to carry the troops of the Russian Armed Forces. By July 56th, the construction of the fleet (flotilla) was basically completed. The plows had a length of 8 to 17 fathoms (16 - 35 meters) and could freely accommodate 50 archers, Cossacks or soldiers with all the reserves. Other vessels were used to deliver food, evacuate wounded and sick lower ranks, and transport regimental and siege artillery.
                  The creation of the Marine Corps was associated with the struggle of Russia for access to the Azov and Baltic Seas in the late XVII - early XVIII centuries.
                  The birthday of the Russian Marine Corps is considered November 16 (27), 1705, when the Marine Regiment was formed by decree of Peter the Great.
                  During the Northern War, Peter I created the Marine Corps of 18-26 thousand people - the largest amphibious assault of that time.
                  During the Second World War, the number of marine corps was 150 thousand people (according to other sources - 100 thousand people).
                  1. Alex_Tug
                    Alex_Tug 26 July 2016 05: 37
                    +1
                    You yourself would like to read the story of the creation of the Marine Corps


                    I actually didn’t mean the whole story. Namely, this fragment of history only.

                    In 1947, the marines were virtually eliminated, only small units remained in the coastal defense forces.

                    The Marines were revived again in 1961. Now they were specialized units intended for amphibious landing operations. In the light of the new military policy, construction began on specialized landing ships of various carrying capacities.

                    Since 1961, one marine regiment has included the Black Sea, Northern and Baltic fleets, and a marine brigade has been deployed in the Pacific Ocean. These Western estimates are not entirely true, according to US intelligence in the 80s, the deployment of parts of the marine corps was as follows:

                    - 63rd Guards Kirkines Marine Regiment - Pechenga, Northern Fleet
                    - 36th Guards Regiment of the Marine Corps - Baltiysk, Baltic Fleet
                    -? Guards Regiment of the Marine Corps - Sevastopol, Black Sea Fleet
                    -? Guards Marine Brigade, Vladivostok, Pacific Fleet
              2. Sasha_Sar
                Sasha_Sar 25 July 2016 14: 59
                +6
                Oh well. I would like to see how the infantry (motorized riflemen) in a couple of days will acquire the skill of disembarking from a large landing craft on the shore or on the water. Driving on the ramp (ascent and descent). And also the seizure of port facilities. All their place. Let's not be engaged in nonsense, as in Pervomayskoye the special forces went to storm the "Gelayevites" who were sitting in the trenches. Every life is precious, but how much effort and money should be spent on training a specialist and how much is a standard fighter?
              3. svp67
                svp67 25 July 2016 16: 12
                +4
                Quote: lukke
                There are a number of features, familiarization with them and takes several days - which I wrote about.

                Have you ever been on one trip? Especially in fresh or stormy weather, when three quarters of an airborne landing is in place? People have to prepare for this and in a couple of days this cannot be achieved.
                Quote: lukke
                A motorized rifle do not have exercises? And the terrain they have from the planet Mars?

                There are those who argue. And often they are waist-deep, but knee-deep in water attacking? And then under the hot sun on sand or pebbles, where you do not dig one dig - you can’t dig a trench, so you have to go and grab the enemy’s trenches. The Marines have a lot of peculiarities.
                1. lukke
                  lukke 25 July 2016 16: 23
                  -2
                  There are those who argue. And often they are waist-deep, but knee-deep in water attacking?
                  Mlyn, you just don’t need this pathetics with an influx of ruthless romance, otherwise I’ll burst into tears. And motorized rifles solve problems exclusively on level ground with a dry temperate (well, in extreme cases, subtropical) climate and always with a bunch of options for evacuation on spaceplanes. Once again I say - there are differences, but they are not so significant, which is confirmed by the fact that even in the existence of the USSR (and it had more money and opportunities than in Russia, even by mobility), they did not begin to create a separate school of the Marine Corps, but limited themselves to recruiting officers at allies - combined arms, tank, artillery, etc. although what am I trying to prove to someone here, all probably veterans of the marine corps behind computers
                  1. Alexey RA
                    Alexey RA 25 July 2016 17: 40
                    +4
                    Quote: lukke
                    And motorized rifles solve problems exclusively on level ground with a dry temperate (well, in extreme cases, subtropical) climate and always with a bunch of options for evacuation on spaceplanes.

                    The problem is that for motorized riflemen, forcing a water barrier with an assault on enemy positions is not a very frequent battle option. But for the marines - this is the main view.
                    And in most cases, motorized riflemen have a rear - in which there is artillery and other means of support, from which reinforcements are suitable, from which they are supplied and where, if there is an order, you can retreat. Motor riflemen have neighbors. who can support them.
                    The marines have none of this: with what came - with that and fight. Reinforcements are only those planned; there will be no help from neighbors - for there are none of them, neighbors. And nowhere to retreat: the evacuation of the landing from the shore is a meat grinder.
                  2. svp67
                    svp67 25 July 2016 19: 13
                    +1
                    Quote: lukke
                    that even in the existence of the USSR (and he had more money and opportunities than in Russia even by mobility), they did not begin to create a separate school for the marine corps

                    Yes, officers came from ordinary schools, but I repeat in the USSR there was a Marine Corps faculty in the Far Eastern Military Educational Establishment, and the Ryazan Airborne Forces delivered to the DSB and the reconnaissance unit of officers. And there was no school because the number of units of the MP was much lower than the number of parts of the same airborne forces.
                    Quote: lukke
                    Mlyn, just don’t need this pathetics with an influx of ruthless romance, otherwise I’ll cry
                    If you have such low psychological stability, you can call mom too, anyway, no one will see. And what a damn romance, it disappears at the moment when everything that I ate, asks a week ago from the stomach back, and everything that could rust on the technique, then rusts right before our eyes.
            2. gg.na
              gg.na 25 July 2016 17: 04
              0
              Quote: Alex_Tug
              Change clothes in a few days? And training, exercises? The preparation is a little specific.

              I can not understand what why are they here? You write everything right, and they’re building minuses for you! Guys-and-and-ii !!! For what man cons belay sculpt ??!
          2. svp67
            svp67 25 July 2016 16: 06
            +3
            Quote: lukke
            The main stream of officers in the marines was after the end of LenVOKU, etc.

            In general, there was a marine corps faculty at DalVOKU, and the Ryazan Airborne Forces contributed.
            Quote: lukke
            In fact, this is the same infantry, but with a more severe selection, wider range of tasks, special traditions and a glorious history.

            The infantry is the infantry, only the marine does not actually have any escape routes and the originality of tactics exists,
      2. lukke
        lukke 25 July 2016 14: 18
        +8
        Another incomprehensible (but with a beautiful name) solution. A detachment of combat swimmers under the cover of the airborne assault units of the marine corps (or special forces of the Airborne Forces under the guise of their airborne assault units) perform SUCH tasks. We look at what we have on the Black Sea:
        810 - Marine Corps brigade, 2 separate battalions (in Feodosia and Temryuk), 127 Separate reconnaissance brigade of the Black Sea Fleet, 126 Separate coastal defense brigade (also the Marines), Marine anti-sabotage detachment (Sevastopol and the second in the Kuban), Combat swimmers detachment in Tuapse.
        And the question is why it was necessary to spend money on creating something incomprehensible when there are well-coordinated units capable of solving these problems even without the Raptors (they can simply be transferred to the balance sheet)
        Really, many things do not reach me ....
        1. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 14: 24
          +2
          Really, many things do not reach me ....


          Just a big article title. Maybe it's just a company?
          1. lukke
            lukke 25 July 2016 14: 47
            +2
            Just a big article title. Maybe it's just a company?
            I just read - "newly created detachments ...", if this is a "detachment", then this is a military unit with its own staff, etc. if it is a military unit, then this is at least the level of a separate battalion, and a separate battalion is always larger than the regular one, since reinforced by other units. Something like this...
            1. svp67
              svp67 25 July 2016 19: 22
              +1
              Quote: lukke
              then this is at least the level of a separate battalion,

              Listen to your "deepest" knowledge, but about individual platoons, not even companies, have you ever heard?
              If a decision has been made to form some kind of experimental unit, then this is necessary. Based on the results of their service, it will be clear whether such units have a future or not.
        2. Lord_Bran
          Lord_Bran 25 July 2016 15: 33
          0
          Domestic response to US Fur Seals, no? The same BoPly, only in profile?
          1. Snayp
            Snayp 25 July 2016 16: 59
            0
            Seals in England, sort of. As my marine brother says, in the USA there are sea pussies))
        3. svp67
          svp67 25 July 2016 19: 29
          0
          Quote: lukke
          810 - Marine Corps brigade, 2 separate battalions (in Feodosia and Temryuk), 127 Separate reconnaissance brigade of the Black Sea Fleet, 126 Separate coastal defense brigade (also the Marines), Marine anti-sabotage detachment (Sevastopol and the second in the Kuban), Combat swimmers detachment in Tuapse.

          It looks like these forces are not recognized enough in the future confrontation. So new units are beginning to form, with an obvious reconnaissance and sabotage bias. And the fight against saboteurs, it looks like it will be a load, otherwise they would also have been given "Grachat".
      3. Monarchist
        Monarchist 25 July 2016 14: 49
        0
        Something like this, but with a clarification: naval special forces like the American Navy Seals. So I'm also at a loss why "reinvent the wheel"?
        1. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 14: 59
          0
          marine special forces such as American fur seals.


          Also not very correct. amers MARINES (seals - landing) and COAST GUARD (coast guard).
          1. lukke
            lukke 25 July 2016 15: 22
            0
            Also not very correct. amers MARINES (seals - landing) and COAST GUARD (coast guard).
            Marines are marines, SEALs are seals (or seals, or combat swimmers are all the same), USCG is a coast guard (we have an analogue - sea border guards).
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 25 July 2016 18: 07
              +1
              Quote: lukke
              Marines are marines, SEALs are seals (or seals, or combat swimmers are all the same), USCG is a coast guard (we have an analogue - sea border guards).

              Amers with special forces are still more confused than ours: SEAL units are equipped with naval or coast guard sheep, are part of the US Navy Special Forces Command, which, in turn, is subordinate to the Main Directorate of Special Forces of the United States Ministry of Defense (joint command of all US special forces )
              Moreover, besides SEAL, the naval special forces include landing landing regiments, submarine carrier divisions and boat flotillas (it was precisely these katerniks that were captured by the Iranians at the time) and the MTO regiment.
      4. NIKNN
        NIKNN 25 July 2016 14: 56
        +4
        Spetsnaz implies the performance of special tasks, the key is special in this definition, and if we say that this or that unit will cope with this (by the way, what? Do you know?) Task, no one will create an individual unit. So there are tasks that require special training. It would seem reasonable to create a separate unit in the existing structure, but for that it is special, so that the commanders are engaged in the special and hone the specifics do not depend on anyone (what is known to two is known to everyone). And to make a universal fighter is not cost-effective, in reality 2-10 fighters sharpened for specific tasks, than to train a whole corps of marine corps to perform all tasks.
        Something like this.
        1. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 15: 06
          0
          in fact, 2-10 fighters imprisoned for specific tasks, than to train a whole corps of marine corps to perform all tasks.


          In Afghanistan, companies were formed from officers to solve specific problems. The skills of the soldiers were insufficient to solve problems.
          1. lukke
            lukke 25 July 2016 15: 24
            0
            In Afghanistan, companies were formed from officers to solve specific problems
            but you can link
            1. Alex_Tug
              Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 15: 33
              0
              but you can link


              On lib.ru was (read 3 years ago) an officer’s recollection of the Afghan war. He fought in such a company for 2 months. And so is the company commander.
            2. Alex_Tug
              Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 22: 07
              +1
              We were built on the parade ground. This was the first company I attended. Maybe not just me. I got the impression that for many standing in the ranks this was the first time. Well, is it not for everyone that seditious thought crept into my head? It was quite possible. At least judging by our dress code.
              We were dressed in what we fought in. Some had spetsnaz overalls. But there were only a few of them. Someone has an "Afghan". But the overwhelming majority were dressed in canvas windbreakers, tank overalls, long Afghan shirts and shalwar. Weapons were just as varied. Trophy AKMs of Arab or Chinese production. Some had ours. With tides for mounting PSO (optical sniper sight) or NSPU (universal night sniper sight) and PBS (devices for silent shooting). Several PKM (modernized 7.62 mm Kalashnikov machine gun). And SVD (Dragunov sniper rifles). The foreman, in addition to the PKM, also had an APSB (Stechkin automatic pistol for silent shooting) on ​​his belt. The usual armament of a pirate ship.
              In order not to embarrass the high authorities with our minds, we looked dashing and a little silly. As Peter the First bequeathed to us. Alas, that did not work. The old colonel did not even smile.
              - Why is the uniform not uniform?
              - Comrade Colonel, you see ...- I tried to say something to the company.
              - Change clothes. Rebuild in an hour.
              The company whispered something in his ear. The colonel raised his gray eyebrows in surprise.
              - Rebuild in two hours.
              We were dismissed through the barracks. It was hard to believe that we could change clothes in two hours. But there is nothing impossible for people, said my friend Horace. Bearing in mind, of course, military men.
              An hour later, the foreman brought from somewhere one and a half hundred sets of "Afghan". An hour later we stood on the parade ground. In the same military uniform, our appearance was no longer so dashing, rather more depressing.
              “Why don't the officers have epaulettes?”
              The company officer again bent over the colonel’s ear.
              “Good, but they should have insignia!” Asterisks, emblems. Soviet officer should ...
              Further was complete nonsense ...
              An hour later, we stood on the parade ground with asterisks on uniforms. Grandfather was interested in our RD (landing backpacks). Perhaps he hoped to find something forbidden there? Obscene pictures, cards, or bottles of fiery water. Alas, sleeping bags, raincoats and camouflage nets were tied to backpacks. In bags one and a half liter jars of water and ammunition. Cartridges, grenades, mines MON-50 or OZM-72. A lot of ammo. Skeins of rope. Spare batteries for radio stations. Our backpacks very quickly became grandfather completely uninteresting.
              1. Alex_Tug
                Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 22: 39
                0
                We were shaved, changed clothes, decorated with insignia. Many then learned for the first time that Tolya Sarkard was a captain, communications officer Grisha Katushkin was a senior lieutenant. Sarkard - nickname. On pashto means ataman. Katushkin, also a nickname. Not translated into Russian. Very common among signalmen, nickname. The only thing, we hoped that in this form they would not chase us for any next military operations. In this form, we could scare away all spirits. But this could not be done. Frightened spirits could chop us into cabbage.
                They didn’t drive us into combat. That same evening, Colonel grandfather flew to the Union. Our guardian angel. We were ready to pray for him. Now we adored drill reviews. Passages with a solemn march and with a song seemed insanely beautiful to us. And not just crazy. We understood that all this had a secret meaning. Because two days after that, in the Afghan intelligence center, officers of the Khad (Afghan state security) arrested one major. He leaked spirits information about our company. It was calculated by our counterintelligence officers. We were ready to carry them in our arms. But so far we have remained firmly convinced that if it were not for the arrival of this grandfather, not the drill and our drill, they would never have found him. We were just sure of that.
                1. Alex_Tug
                  Alex_Tug 26 July 2016 06: 06
                  0
                  After the Gelendvagen
                  ----------------------------
                  From the Afghan intelligence center we were given photographs of the colonel. This was done so casually that I involuntarily thought that there were photographs of all Chinese colonels in the intelligence center. As well as lieutenant colonels, majors and lieutenants. And not only Chinese. It became clear to me why the scouts did not like to be photographed so much. Sign. When too many of your photos appear, some of them will surely end up in the Afghan intelligence center. Or in some other. Not the point. The main thing is that after this you will have to live quite a bit. That was wrong. There was some kind of supreme injustice in this. Man must live forever. And not as much as analysts from some intelligence center will let go of his age.
                  1. lukke
                    lukke 27 July 2016 14: 32
                    0
                    This is a thin book by Kartsev - Military intelligence))))
        2. lukke
          lukke 25 July 2016 15: 31
          0
          how to train the entire marine corps
          we do not have a Marine Corps as in America, but the largest unit in each fleet - a separate brigade. There was a division in the USSR. Each brigade has different units, incl. DShB, reconnaissance company, tankmen, artillerymen, etc. etc. so there is no need to "train everyone" - they have someone to do it. I see you do not bother that the American Marines are still fighting terrorism and guarding the embassies and the chambers of the prezik himself (we have completely different departments for this)
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 25 July 2016 16: 03
            +2
            Quote: lukke
            we do not have a marine corps as in America, but the largest division in each fleet - a separate brigade. In the USSR there was a division.

            Sorry, the corps is said figuratively with a view to a large unit ... why bother with the word? I think the example of the American Marines is not a standard for us, since we have our own tasks and specifics.
          2. svp67
            svp67 25 July 2016 19: 35
            0
            Quote: lukke
            I don’t mind bothering you that the American marines are still fighting terrorism and guarding the embassies and chambers of the prezik itself (we have completely different departments imprisoned for this)

            But you don’t mind that the US Marine Corps is generally a separate type of the Armed Forces, which reports directly to the US President and, moreover, within 72 hours the President has the right to conduct these forces without permission from Congress. Its specifics. Why do they have both aircraft and their ships.
            1. lukke
              lukke 25 July 2016 21: 53
              0
              But you don’t mind that the US Marine Corps is generally a separate type of Armed Forces
              why should it bother me?
      5. Homo
        Homo 25 July 2016 15: 17
        0
        Quote: Sith Lord
        I always thought that the marines were special forces or, at the very least, they always had units for the protection of our bases.

        Yes, what are you? Everyone has their own special forces, even in the Airborne Forces.
      6. g1v2
        g1v2 25 July 2016 17: 29
        0
        Now the marines are unified in technology and training with the Airborne. That is, both those and those will be quick reaction troops with approximately the same weapons and training. hi
        1. lukke
          lukke 25 July 2016 17: 42
          +2
          Now the marines are unified in technology and training with the Airborne. That is, both those and those will be quick reaction troops with approximately the same weapons and training
          and I would say differently - the airborne forces are being pulled under the omnidirectionality of the marines. I’ll try to prove (no offense to the landing - I respect them deeply): both of them are engaged in parachute training, but the marines always had tank units - in the airborne forces Shamanov is trying to do this only now. Shamanov also made the study of underwater breathing apparatus obligatory at the special forces faculty, and whoever has always studied this in the Marine Corps. So it turns out that sooner or later they will come to the same denominator)))
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 25 July 2016 21: 36
            0
            I read several fairly competent articles on how the appointment of airborne and marines has changed. About the new doctrines of application and their comparison with the American striker teams. Plus, about the change in the concept of mobile troops and their rearmament programs. I focus on them. So far, all the news about the new technology for the airborne and marines that appear here only confirms this new concept of highly mobile troops. Plus, interviews of several generals and gozs also confirm it. hi
    4. svp67
      svp67 25 July 2016 16: 03
      +1
      Quote: Bdeshh
      The special forces in the Crimea, the most it is possible to wrap a bolt with a reverse thread in the bottom of Potroshenko and he will not seem enough

      When you find out that a base of US Navy SEALs is deployed in the Bulgarian Burgas, you perceive this news as something more serious than the efforts of Poroshekov's army.
      1. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 21: 33
        0
        Quote: Bdeshh
        The special forces in the Crimea, the most it is possible to wrap a bolt with a reverse thread in the bottom of Potroshenko and he will not seem enough

        When you find out that a base of US Navy SEALs is deployed in the Bulgarian Burgas, you perceive this news as something more serious than the efforts of Poroshekov's army.


        These are the rank writers get a plus. In another topic, he beats his chest - they do not feed the occupants of the PPS post in Yerevan.
  2. atamankko
    atamankko 25 July 2016 13: 18
    0
    Special Forces has never been superfluous.
  3. Xmyp
    Xmyp 25 July 2016 13: 20
    +2
    Quote: Bdeshh
    The special forces in the Crimea, the most it is possible to wrap a bolt with a reverse thread in the bottom of Potroshenko and he will not seem enough laughing wassat .

    Not tired for the sake of pluses everywhere to write about the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Poroshenko and Bandera?
    1. Bdeshh
      Bdeshh 25 July 2016 13: 23
      0
      Quote: XmyP
      Quote: Bdeshh
      The special forces in the Crimea, the most it is possible to wrap a bolt with a reverse thread in the bottom of Potroshenko and he will not seem enough laughing wassat .

      Not tired for the sake of pluses everywhere to write about the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Poroshenko and Bandera?

      And for whom, special forces in Crimea, dear, is it really for aliens? bully
  4. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 25 July 2016 13: 20
    0
    In the Baltic, there would be a couple of such groups, give 2 please.
    1. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 13: 31
      +2
      In the Baltic, there would be a couple of such groups, give 2 please.

      They will. At the military registration and enlistment office you’ll write to the contract servicemen.
  5. guzik007
    guzik007 25 July 2016 13: 22
    +1
    And where did he go, once they create a new one?
    Or did Bushkov suck his "Piranha" out of his finger?
  6. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 25 July 2016 13: 25
    0
    We will wait for such subdivisions to appear also in the Caspian and the Pacific ...
    1. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 13: 33
      0
      in the Caspian Sea, Pacific Ocean


      Quiet already appeared in the article.
  7. Altona
    Altona 25 July 2016 13: 34
    0
    I remembered a recent video about Ukrainian "ichthyandras" who were dropped from a helicopter during the Sea Breeze-2016 NATO exercise to "control the Odessa port." They dropped it, then fished out this "special forces" like G out of an ice hole on a boat with a motor. This Ukrainian "spetsnaz" is being shown what the material base of a real spetsnaz should be for fast transportation and fire support from the water area.
  8. kolkulon
    kolkulon 25 July 2016 13: 35
    +2
    Fire boat. Dream of a poacher.
  9. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 25 July 2016 13: 43
    +2
    "The organizational structure and weapons ..." is not reported. What kind of bolt GENERALLY reported, what was not reported by the staff? Mulka, 100 poods, everything was created and functions long ago, in all fleets. Coolest men, piece goods, waterfowl, completely classified. It takes at least 5 years to prepare after college.
    1. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 13: 53
      +2
      What bolt is reported at all, which number \\ did not report and staff?


      Now report on each company that was created to solve specific problems.
  10. black
    black 25 July 2016 13: 49
    0
    I, too, doubted something. Sabotage and anti-sabotage activities are two big differences. It is impossible to catch and "hooligan" at the same time.
    1. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 14: 00
      +1
      [Quote] [/ quote]
      It is impossible to catch and "hooligan" at the same time. [/ Quote]

      The task of the "underwater swimmers" is to catch the same enemy swimmers and mine themselves. The news is so in itself, a kind of restructuring of the division.
      1. black
        black 25 July 2016 14: 35
        0
        As far as I remember, the functions of sabotage and anti-sabotage activities in the fleet were strictly divided. Yes, and on land, too. Narrow specialization is not always to the detriment.
        1. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 14: 43
          0
          Yes, and on land, too. Narrow specialization is not always to the detriment.


          For me, the author overheated in the sun. The rearmament of some units is called a "loud headline".
  11. Mister22408
    Mister22408 25 July 2016 14: 07
    +3
    The usual PDSS with possible missions for the delivery and withdrawal of special forces groups in the surface version. I hope on such cool boats there is a GSP platform with "correct" multi-band optics and a RR system and communication, which is coupled in the ZAS and frequency with the stations of the special forces and aviation? Or as always? Yes, and the selection of groups in the coastal zone on the go has been worked out? bully
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 July 2016 14: 47
    0
    Swedish project of a very successful boat. Volvo diesel is worth it.
  13. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 25 July 2016 15: 16
    +2
    Quote: Sith Lord
    I always thought that the marines are special forces or, at the very least, they always have units for the protection of our bases. And to attack other people's bases and land on the shore, in my opinion all the marines fall.

    A little bit wrong. Just as part of the Marines, there are no units for the protection of bases. Their task is to act on the enemy’s shore, and in full force of their units and units, and even together with the same motorized infantry. And the naval commanders (the commanders of these bases), who have subordinate units, are responsible for guarding the bases. From the coast - various security companies and coastal service units. From the sea (or rather, from under the water) - detachments of the fight against PDSS (underwater sabotage forces and assets).
    But for the sabotage off the enemy shore (from under the water), there are other units and they are subordinate to the intelligence departments of the fleets. At the Pacific Fleet - this is. (Phew! And so much of that blabbed military secrets fellow )
    But in general, in the daily routine activities, the tasks of these units often overlap (the same PDSS), especially since they have the same equipment and weapons in service. so in the article, in fact, everything is correctly said.
  14. AlexSam
    AlexSam 25 July 2016 15: 45
    +1
    somehow we have perverted the concept of spetsnaz ... marines are spetsnaz ... huh? marines are marines - to land on the coast of a neighboring state, gain a foothold on it and prepare a bridgehead for the landing of the main forces ... special forces? according to the level of training, probably yes, because try to land on the coast of China or Japan and not rake at the very same time) but you also need to clean up the territory ... and there is nowhere to retreat, behind the ocean ... rather, cannon fodder)) GRU special forces or The Airborne Forces has clear and specific tasks, it is he who is the special forces ... for the special forces of the FAPSI, GUIN, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and other harsh departments, I think it's not worth talking about) but what was "re-created" is an attempt to cross a hedgehog with a snake ... apparently , I've seen enough gum about fur seals on NTV ...
  15. Bort radist
    Bort radist 25 July 2016 16: 02
    0
    I do not believe that there were no units solving such problems. This, probably, is about the deployment - the creation of these groups in this place.
  16. win
    win 25 July 2016 16: 26
    +4
    Russian Navy Special Forces
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    2. win
      win 25 July 2016 16: 28
      +5
      Weapons of special forces of the IMF of Russia.
      No analogues
      1. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 25 July 2016 16: 39
        +2
        Weapons of special forces of the IMF of Russia.


        And weapons that could work underwater are also very necessary for scuba divers. And it managed to create Russian designers. Behind the glass of the display case you can see an underwater four-barreled pistol and a unique machine for underwater shooting. Such a machine gun, which could shoot bursts deep underwater, no longer has any country in the world!
        Near the window is a scout knife. So what, you say, nothing special, a knife is like a knife. But this is far from the case. The fact is that a special device is placed in its handle that can make one shot. But it shoots not with an ordinary, but with a special silent cartridge.
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        Tula Arms Museum
  17. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 25 July 2016 18: 18
    +1
    Judging by the tasks - it turns out some kind of combined hodgepodge of PDSS, SPN and flotillas of SPN boats "in one bottle." what
    1. akribos
      akribos 25 July 2016 18: 46
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      Perhaps, under a big word, creation, there is a different meaning, reorganization and reduction. This is a bit different news.
  18. SAA
    SAA 25 July 2016 20: 49
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    It seems that earlier separate units of the Marine Corps were doing the same. To whom is the new unit assigned? Judging by the tasks voiced, these are the marines and special forces of the GRU in one "bottle".
  19. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 25 July 2016 21: 34
    +1
    The Marine Corps was created on November 27, 1705 by the decree of Peter the 1st: a marine regiment was formed. As a child, I read a book about the service of one of the brothers (I think Volkov's "Two Brothers", he not only wrote "The Emerald City") in this very regiment.
    Seals - literally: SEa, Air and Land (sea, air, land, that is, "universal" fighters, but belong to the Navy). Seal: translated as seal, plural - seals.
  20. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 26 July 2016 00: 02
    0
    The aircraft carrier, although unsinkable, but it must be protected tightly!
  21. Alex von Dorn
    Alex von Dorn 26 July 2016 07: 13
    0
    Another headache for our sworn friends. It's fine!
  22. vell.65
    vell.65 26 July 2016 11: 14
    0
    Quote: oleg-gr
    So soon Porosenko will begin to inform the whole world about Russian saboteurs caught in the coastal zone. Valorous, everyone who knows how, ukrovoyaki can not help but catch all the strangers.

    Let now not only Ukrainians look back on the Black Sea.