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Death of a transit state: Ukraine becomes the cecum of Eurasia

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Death of a transit state: Ukraine becomes the cecum of Eurasia


In January of this year, a freight train was launched on the route Ilyichevsk-China by Ukraine as part of the noisy project "New Silk Road". However, he did not return back. Could not find customers.


The gradual collapse of Russian gas transit through the territory of Ukraine, which threatens to eventually turn the Ukrainian gas transportation system into a pile of scrap metal, is an element of the large-scale and inevitable process of Ukraine’s loss of its traditional transit positions.

Russia deliberately gets rid of transit intermediaries. This is part of its geo-economic strategy. That is why in recent years the transit of oil through its territory has decreased in a catastrophic way for Ukraine.

The volume of the maximum pumping of this energy carrier in the Ukrainian "pipe" can be 67 million tons per year. Such is its throughput. However, already in 2002, it dropped to 27 mln. Tons. This happened after Russia built the Sukhodol'na-Rodionovskaya oil pipeline (2001 million tons of oil per year) in 28, which directly connected two Russian oil pipelines bypassing Ukraine: Samara-Lisichansk and Lysychansk-Tikhoretsk.

However, 2001 year was only a touchstone in the implementation of the Russian energy strategy. The fact is that in 2008, Vladimir Putin made the final decision to allow all Russian oil traffic to bypass the transit countries. As a result of this decision, in 2012, Russia completed the construction of the Baltic pipeline system (BTS-1 and BTS-2) with a total throughput of 80 million tons of oil per year.

BTS-2 is a branch from the Druzhba pipeline section near the Russian-Ukrainian and Russian-Belarusian border. This pipeline system went along the cordon of the Russian Federation with Belarus, Latvia and Estonia to the port of Ust-Luga (in the Leningrad region), where an oil terminal with a capacity of 50 million tons of oil per year was built. Thus, Moscow redirected oil traffic bypassing Ukraine along the northern route. After entering the BTS-2 for Russia, there was no need to use the Ukrainian port "Yuzhny" (which is currently idle) and the Odessa-Brody pipeline (which is currently inactive).

In addition, since 2004, oil pumping bypassing Ukraine has been carried out by the Caspian Pipeline Consortium, which has connected the oil fields of Kazakhstan and Russia with the Yuzhnaya Ozereeevka terminal located near Novorossiysk. Currently CPC throughput is 40 million tons of oil per year. However, as First Deputy Energy Minister Alexei Teksler said in March at 2016, by the end of this year, the capacity of the Caspian Pipeline Consortium will increase to 67 million tons per year.

In connection with the implementation of the above projects, back in November 2008, First Deputy Head of the Presidential Secretariat of Ukraine Alexander Shlapak said that Ukraine is gradually losing the status of a transit state because it annually loses 5-10% of transit volume as a result of various international projects in the field of pipeline transport .

According to him, after the implementation of the first stages of the construction of the Caspian pipeline consortium and the Baltic pipeline system, Russia was able to transport up to 60 million tons of oil, bypassing the territory of Ukraine, Belarus and Poland. And when these projects will work at full capacity, Russia will be able to completely abandon the transit of oil through the territory of Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic states.

All these Moscow efforts have led to the fact that in 2015, the volume of oil transit through the territory of Ukraine amounted to only 15 million tons. In March 2016 of the year (compared to February), the transit of oil through Ukraine decreased by 20,9%. In comparison with March last year, the reduction was 43,1%. In January-March 2016, the transit of oil through Ukraine decreased by 19,6% compared with the corresponding period of 2015.

It is not difficult to understand that as soon as the second phase of the Caspian Pipeline Consortium starts working at the end of this year, the oil transit through the territory of Ukraine will stop. This means that in 2017, the Ukrainian oil pipeline system can be cut for scrap. The damage to Ukraine from this is now estimated at hundreds of millions of dollars. However, such is the price for the dream of living without Russia.

However, the transit losses of Ukraine are not limited to gas and oil. In the near future, the country will also lose the transit of Russian ammonia.

The fact is that until recently, Russia could sell the ammonia it produced only through the Odessa port plant, where it was transported via the ammonia pipeline from the Togliatti Nitrogen Plant (TolyattiAzot OJSC).

However, at the moment, Russia is accelerating the construction of a new seaport on the Taman Peninsula, which will become the main transshipment terminal for ships with Russian ammonia and urea.

This project was developed at the end of 90, but its implementation began only at the end of 2014 after the “revolution of dignity” in Ukraine. Entering the first stage of the Taman terminal, with a throughput of about 2 million tons of ammonia per year, is scheduled for 2017 year. The second turn will be completed by 2020 year.

When the project is half earned, it will delay almost all the volumes of ammonia transported from Togliatti through the Odessa port plant. At the same time, Ukraine will lose not only transit, but also the required OPZ of raw materials. Those. not only the ammonia "pipe" will be unnecessary, but also the port plant itself, the port infrastructure for shipping urea, ammonia OPZ terminals, and so on.

From the above, it is not difficult to understand that next year Ukraine will be able to safely cut not only its own ammonia pipeline, but also the Odessa Portside Plant, for scrap, having forever said goodbye to tens of millions of dollars in annual profits.

Also, at an accelerated pace, Russia blocks the transit of its goods through the territory of Ukraine. At the moment, there is a rapid construction of the railway bypassing the Ukrainian territory in the Zhuravka-Millerovo section. A two-track electrified railway began to be built there in 2014 year. At the end of 2017, the kilometer-long 122 road will connect the Voronezh and Rostov regions without crossing the Ukrainian border.

It is worth mentioning that at the moment, due to the situation in the Donbass, international airlines such as Air France, Lufthansa, Aeroflot, Singapore Airlines, Emirates, Qatar Airways, British Airways stopped transit flights through the airspace of Ukraine. In addition, they reduced transit flights of Transaero, Turkish Airlines, LOT, Belavia. Part of the transit air traffic flows shifted north of Ukraine, and now passes through the airspace of Belarus and the Russian Federation, and some - to the south, into the airspace of Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey. Because of this, Ukraine is suffering significant financial losses.

Among other things, Ukraine began very big problems with the transit of its cargo.

In July, 2016, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree that strengthens restrictions on the transit of goods from the territory of Ukraine. According to the decree, the transit of those Ukrainian goods that are sent through Russian territory to Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan and are subject to customs duties for deliveries to the Russian Federation is completely prohibited.

As stated in Moscow, transit shipments from Ukraine to Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan are used to smuggle Ukrainian goods into the Russian Federation. During transit through the Russian territory, a part of transit cargoes remains in Russia. Thus, the Ukrainian transit is actually a shadow export to the Russian Federation, which, because of this, receives less significant amounts of duties.

July 14 joined Belarus to block Ukrainian transit. Around 130 Ukrainian railway cars that were sent to Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, were detained at the Belarusian border stations.

In connection with the halt of Ukrainian transit, on July 4, Deputy Minister of Economic Development and Trade of Ukraine Natalya Mikolskaya reported that Ukraine could lose about 90% of the export of Ukrainian goods to Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. According to Mikolskaya, the introduction of additional transit restrictions on the part of Russia may lead to "almost complete stopping of the de facto transit of Ukrainian goods to Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan through the territory of the Russian Federation." “According to our preliminary estimates, it’s about 90% of our exports to these countries,” - said Mikolskaya.

At the same time, she added that Russia's economic restrictions last year had already led to a reduction in Ukrainian exports to Kazakhstan by 47,9%.

Apparently, this step of Russia, including, is a response to the attempts made by Ukraine in February 2016 of the year to block the transit of Russian trucks through Ukrainian territory. After the nationalists began to stop trucks with RF numbers, the Ukrainian government officially stopped their transit movements through the country on February 15.

However, later the Ukrainian patriots found that Ukrainian trucks that travel through the territory of the Russian Federation are 7 times more than Russian ones traveling through Ukraine, and the losses from the blockade of Russian trucks will be at least 115 billion hryvnias. What the adviser to the Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Roman Khmil reported.

At the moment, as stated in the Ukrainian government, Kiev is preparing "mirror sanctions" against Russia. However, in order to understand how ridiculous this threat sounds, one only needs to look at the geographical map. Apparently, the Ukrainian leadership has still not understood that Russia will always be able to go round Ukraine, and Ukraine will not be able to go round Russia, because of its scale, in principle. In the transit war, Kiev is helpless as a child.

This is evidenced by the facts.

As is known, in January of this year, a cargo train was launched along the Ilyichevsk-China route by Ukraine as part of the noisyly popular project “New Silk Road”. However, he did not return back. Could not find customers.

As this experiment showed, the delivery of goods by so-called. The “New Silk Road” turned out to be much longer than the usual route through Russia, and the complexity and irregularity of flights on this route does not make it possible to accurately plan transportation. But the most important thing is that the cost of transporting the 40-foot container declared by Ukrzaliznytsia is 5559 US dollars, which is 2-3 times more expensive than the cost of transporting the same weight by cars through Russia.

Those. test train start by so-called. The “New Silk Road” showed that this route is inexpedient in commercial terms, which means that it cannot become an alternative to transit through Russian territory.

By the way, the statistics of transit of goods through Russia also speaks about this. At the end of last year, Russian Railways published information on the transportation of Chinese goods through the Trans-Siberian Railway. The growth rate of traffic for the first 11 months increased by 89%, and for the year - by 98% (by 66 thousand TEU containers). Since 2009, the total volume of transportation of all goods on the Trans-Siberian Railway has increased by 7 times - up to 131 thousand TEU containers (20-foot containers). In essence, this is an explosive growth in traffic on the Trans-Siberian Railway. Today, there are eight China-Russia-Europe transit routes through Kazakhstan and Belarus. For each of these routes, several dozen container trains have been moving for several years. It should be borne in mind that the trade turnover between the EU and China is 564 billion dollars a year.

It is clear that a significant part of this transit pie could go to Ukraine. However, for the Ukrainian leadership the so-called. the fight against Russia, leading Ukraine to suicide, seems to be a higher priority than a profitable business that fills the Ukrainian treasury.
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  1. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 26 July 2016 15: 33
    +20
    In my opinion, this is called the rectum of Eurasia.
    1. Vend
      Vend 26 July 2016 15: 40
      +162
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      In my opinion, this is called the rectum of Eurasia.

      Russia ceases to feed Russophobic parasites. This is a good sign. They closed the transit through the Baltic states, now through Ukraine, a good trend. The USSR did not suit you - Russia, they wanted to capitalism? Welcome.
      1. dumpy15
        dumpy15 26 July 2016 16: 34
        +53
        Intestinal parasites (especially strangers) cannot be fed. But note that the entire bazaar goes around pipes pumping out Russia's natural wealth. In essence, Russia continues to be a raw materials appendage of the global economy. This is our main misfortune. IMHO
        1. cniza
          cniza 26 July 2016 17: 51
          +18
          This is mildly called - carried away by an attempt to harm a neighbor, as a result, complete stagnation of their own economy, or rather its remnants.
          1. captain
            captain 26 July 2016 18: 48
            +19
            In vain svidomye do not watch the movie "Wedding in Malinovka". Very relevant for Ukraine at the present time.
          2. Krasniy_lis
            Krasniy_lis 27 July 2016 11: 41
            +3
            Quote: cniza
            carried away trying to harm a neighbor

            but non-slaves laughing
          3. edge
            edge 27 July 2016 17: 00
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            This is mildly called - carried away by an attempt to harm a neighbor, as a result, complete stagnation

            whoever wants what, receives with interest, - traditional Russian proverbs will soon remember
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 27 July 2016 18: 08
              +1
              whoever wants what, receives with interest, - traditional Russian proverbs will soon remember
              One of the most relevant. Sow the wind, reap the storm.
        2. zennon
          zennon 27 July 2016 00: 00
          +23
          Quote: dumpy15
          In essence, Russia continues to be a raw materials appendage of the global economy.

          This is not so. In 2014, the share of non-primary exports (together with the export of services) amounted to more than half of all exports - 51,5%. In 2013, exports of non-primary goods amounted to $ 251 billion, in 2014 - already $ 286 billion. In total, total exports last year amounted to almost $ 500 billion. According to the Minek’s plan, in five years, by 2020, only non-oil exports will produce about the same. According to the base scenario, it will increase to $ 467 billion, and according to the optimistic scenario, to $ 513 billion. Non-oil exports include the export of non-primary goods and the export of services. And these groaning about savages on the oil pipe are false and annoying.
          1. edge
            edge 27 July 2016 17: 11
            +1
            Quote: zennon
            Non-primary exports include export of non-primary goods and export of services

            and if you look at current trends in oil production, our statement on the development of small-sized atomic power sources (on alpha radiation), the launch in production of armored personnel carriers with a hybrid power plant .... then it’s not far from high-tech industries. Moreover, the Rothschilds are already withdrawing their fortunes from the hydrocarbon sector
          2. Calter
            Calter 3 August 2016 19: 04
            0
            Um ... Or maybe this is due to the fact that the cost of exported oil and gas fell by 2 times? Indeed, the term "export volume" here means the total value of exported goods. The cost of oil and gas fell - its share in exports also fell, and, consequently, the share in the "other" column increased. Statistics is a murky business.
        3. edge
          edge 27 July 2016 16: 58
          0
          Quote: dumpy15
          Intestinal parasites (especially strangers) cannot be fed.

          good 1-they need to be changed to gram-positive microflora
          Quote: dumpy15
          But note that the entire bazaar goes around the pipes
          2, and this is because Biden put his son at the head of Naftogaz. hi , nothing personal, just ameri greedy rudeness
          1. Aqela
            Aqela 30 July 2016 15: 44
            0
            I would ask you not to introduce bacteriological terminology into the minds of members of the forum, which they cannot appreciate. Do you yourself, "Gurt", know what the words you use mean? Have Gram colonies ever been painted?
      2. win
        win 26 July 2016 17: 20
        +4
        feed Russophobic parasites

        But Europe is not Russophobic?
        Why feed her?
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        2. cniza
          cniza 26 July 2016 17: 53
          +22
          Quote: Siegen
          feed Russophobic parasites

          But Europe is not Russophobic?
          Why feed her?


          We trade with it and it is profitable for us.
        3. Andrew
          Andrew 26 July 2016 19: 40
          +23
          Europe is a buyer, not a thief sitting in transit ...
          1. edge
            edge 27 July 2016 17: 13
            +2
            Quote: Andrew
            Europe is a buyer, not a thief sitting in transit ...

            although not without lousiness .... to break and they must be, but carefully
          2. win
            win 28 July 2016 12: 40
            +4
            Europe - Buyer

            We trade with it and it is profitable for us

            During the Second World War, the United States secretly traded with Nazi Germany. Greed does not know barriers.
            Europe in the media pours mud and lies on Russia, but buys free gas.
            And Russia dutifully sells.
            Does this remind me of a situation when a dog bites a nursing hand? ..
            1. zennon
              zennon 28 July 2016 19: 41
              0
              Quote: Siegen
              During the Second World War, the United States secretly traded with Nazi Germany.

              Can I have a specific link?
              1. win
                win 28 July 2016 21: 40
                +2
                During the Second World War, the United States secretly traded with Nazi Germany
                Can I have a specific link?


                http://svpressa.ru/post/article/99521/
                http://militera.lib.ru/research/pyhalov_i/07.html
                http://www.sdelanounih.ru/charlz-xajem-torgovlya-s-vragom-kak-amerika-pomogala-g
                itleru /
                http://stomaster.livejournal.com/1513821.html
                http://gorod.tomsk.ru/index-1368499182.php
                http://old.artyushenkooleg.ru/index.php/velikaya-otechestvennaya-vojna-1941-1945
                -g / lend-liz-dlya-fashistskoj-germanii /
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      3. quote
        quote 26 July 2016 17: 33
        +3
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: Stauffenberg
        In my opinion, this is called the rectum of Eurasia.

        Russia ceases to feed Russophobic parasites. This is a good sign. They closed the transit through the Baltic states, now through Ukraine, a good trend. The USSR did not suit you - Russia, they wanted to capitalism? Welcome.

        Welcome?
        Is it not a sin to laugh at sick people?
        Who will accept them, sick?
        There their ,,,,,,,!! Read statements!
        What is not a "talker" "is a genius," zdun "!!!
        And then there are "zdunov" - (minus) 100 squared! (Not mathematics).
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 26 July 2016 18: 07
          +42
          Quote: devis
          Welcome?
          Is it not a sin to laugh at sick people?
          Who will accept them, sick?

          Since the collapse of the Union, we, for a minute, almost a quarter of a century, have spared everyone, patronized - you want freedom - please pay debts for you - but it’s not a question, oil and gas at low prices - in the neighborhood - is not a question. Come to work for us - you don’t have your own. Loan with a vague fate of repayment? “Are you five or fifteen billion?” ,,,,
          And in response - what? That's right - at best - nothing, but usually our kindness, is mistaken for sucker and weakness.
          As practice shows, the best relationship is purely business.
          For this reason, the pity was forcibly turned off, which had to be done twenty years ago, in the first place, should always be our interests, but then everything else = e.
          1. edge
            edge 27 July 2016 17: 16
            +1
            Quote: lelikas
            As practice shows, the best relationship is purely business.

            and even better when fist guys are standing behind soldier
        2. Andrew
          Andrew 26 July 2016 19: 42
          +2
          at first thought funny ... now I don’t think so
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 26 July 2016 19: 56
            +8
            Death of a transit state: Ukraine becomes the cecum of Eurasia
            Yes, appendicitis. The country of appendicitis. In a direct word. Such a number of guest-workers as now from Ukraine never happened. The prospect is zero. Kiev will somehow live, the rest will be on "zrabitki".
      4. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 26 July 2016 19: 25
        +2
        We have to wait a couple more years. Then it will be clear whether Russia defended its interests or Miller and did what they were told in Washington ..
      5. GSH-18
        GSH-18 26 July 2016 19: 32
        +5
        However, for the Ukrainian leadership the so-called The fight against Russia, leading Ukraine to suicide, seems to be a higher priority than a profitable business that fills the Ukrainian treasury.

        It's just that the pot-headed cattle-booies don't care what happens to them tomorrow. The main thing today is to make a mess of Russia as much as possible. And pofik own frostbitten "ears". As well as the brains "bounced off" on the next Maidan!
        1. edge
          edge 27 July 2016 17: 20
          +1
          Quote: GSH-18
          It's just that the pot-headed cattle-booies don't care what happens to them tomorrow. The main thing today is to make a mess of Russia as much as possible. And pofik own frostbitten "ears". As well as the brains "bounced off" on the next Maidan!

          and why should they fuss, the minority located at the trough will fall down to the uses, and the rest will go into hibernation or run away
      6. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 26 July 2016 19: 34
        +8
        In-in, not an article, but a balm for the soul and heart))) ... Enough to feed the Russophobes, they have completely lost their shame and conscience in the Baltic states, in Ukraine ... Let them feel the difference between friendship with Russia and political Russophobia on their pockets ... For them it’s so quick ...
        1. edge
          edge 27 July 2016 17: 24
          +1
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Enough to feed the Russophobes, they have completely lost their shame and conscience

          I think two more years .... from strength to the 20th. And after that, everyone will break off enormously. Yes, and those who enter the EUEC will not be sitting on their necks, like the Balts and Asians under the USSR
      7. SIMM
        SIMM 26 July 2016 19: 45
        0
        They wanted lace "panties and EU" ...)
        1. edge
          edge 27 July 2016 17: 26
          0
          Quote: SIMM
          They wanted lacy "panties and EU".

          they got a hole in s ..... ce, which they already started to peck
      8. weksha50
        weksha50 26 July 2016 19: 55
        +3
        Quote: Wend
        They closed the transit through the Baltic states, now through Ukraine, a good trend.



        There is a problem with the SP-2 gas pipeline ... Germany and the EU are trying to set conditions for the second branch: so that the gas supply through Ukraine from Russia does not stop ...
        That is, at our expense, they still try to continue to feed the Russophobic Ukraine and Poland ...

        The same as in Ukraine ...
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 26 July 2016 20: 44
          +4
          Quote: weksha50
          Quote: Wend
          They closed the transit through the Baltic states, now through Ukraine, a good trend.



          There is a problem with the SP-2 gas pipeline ... Germany and the EU are trying to set conditions for the second branch: so that the gas supply through Ukraine from Russia does not stop ...
          That is, at our expense, they still try to continue to feed the Russophobic Ukraine and Poland ...

          The same as in Ukraine ...

          It’s not yet evening, Europe is shaking quietly, the pan-castle-headed heads of evil will blow up the remnants of the GTS and Europe itself will refuse to provide transit services, everything is ahead. They play on our nerves with the Olympics, in 2019 we will get back.
        2. edge
          edge 27 July 2016 17: 28
          +2
          Quote: weksha50
          There is a problem with the SP-2 gas pipeline ... Germany and the EU are trying to set conditions for the second branch

          it will end soon when they start to freeze, the golfstream then weakens and turns around ...
      9. Massimo
        Massimo 27 July 2016 02: 43
        +4
        because they are angry that they’re used to a freebie, and now they are hiding shops, soon the pipe will come ...
    2. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 26 July 2016 15: 46
      +11
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      this is called the rectum of Eurasia.
      - Yes, they’re a splinter in the back!
      1. sub307
        sub307 26 July 2016 16: 41
        +7
        Quote: oldseaman1957
        - Yes, they’re a splinter in the back!

        Taking into account the fact that organizations very close to ISIS "settled" on the territory of Ukraine, then "they" can become a very big thorn ..., for "all" moreover.
        1. edge
          edge 27 July 2016 17: 33
          0
          Quote: sub307
          Taking into account the fact that organizations very close to ISIS "settled" on the territory of Ukraine, then "they" can become a very big thorn ..., for "all" moreover.

          This is unlikely, Valtsman will be kicked-and all newcomers will be cut off who do not have time to cut off to Turkey, especially in southern Russia
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 26 July 2016 19: 37
        0
        Quote: oldseaman1957
        Quote: Stauffenberg
        this is called the rectum of Eurasia.
        - Yes, they’re a splinter in the back!

        Or rather constipation
      3. edge
        edge 27 July 2016 17: 30
        0
        Quote: oldseaman1957
        - Yes, they’re a splinter in the back!

        not more likely hemorrhoids .... wassat
    3. Dimontius
      Dimontius 26 July 2016 15: 57
      +11
      This is called Russian "pood and right over the head" soft power. And for one great strategy to ensure an independent transit policy for the Russian Federation, connecting the whole world, from Lisbon to Vladik!
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    5. Erg
      Erg 26 July 2016 16: 03
      +5
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      In my opinion this is called the rectum of Eurasia

      You, colleague, want to say - colorectal cancer?
    6. Sharapov
      Sharapov 26 July 2016 16: 42
      +6
      Quote: "In addition, the transit flights of Transaero Airlines have been reduced .."

      I might have missed something, but did Transaero go bankrupt a year ago ???
      1. samoletil18
        samoletil18 26 July 2016 21: 14
        +1
        Then Aeroflot did a good bite on the routes - as many as 141. In the context of Ukraine, changing the sign does not matter.
      2. edge
        edge 27 July 2016 17: 35
        0
        Quote: Sharapov
        I might have missed something, but did Transaero go bankrupt a year ago ???

        sort of pulled them out, they say they're trying to fly again
    7. ydjin
      ydjin 26 July 2016 16: 49
      +2
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      In my opinion, this is called the rectum of Eurasia.

      The cecum, if and is, there is no way out!
    8. NEXUS
      NEXUS 26 July 2016 17: 12
      +12
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      In my opinion, this is called the rectum of Eurasia.

      With a large number of tapeworms ... Something I do not observe our Ukrainian-gray wiseacres, who so fervently scribbled posts about the Olympics and the problems the Russian Federation has with it ... And where is this sparkling fervent public? But October is just around the corner, and there and the winter there unexpectedly with a furry animal will come ...
      1. Great Attractor
        Great Attractor 26 July 2016 17: 31
        -5
        Quote: NEXUS
        NEXUS (3) Today, 17:12 ↑ New
        Quote: Stauffenberg
        In my opinion, this is called the rectum of Eurasia.
        With a large number of tapeworms ... Something I do not observe our Ukrainian-gray wiseacres, who so fervently scribbled posts about the Olympics and the problems the Russian Federation has with it ... And where is this sparkling fervent public? But October is just around the corner, and there and the winter there unexpectedly with a furry animal will come ...


        Do you have a revolver? Perfectly. If I were you, I would know what to do with it.
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 26 July 2016 17: 36
          +6
          The dream of a freebie ended zilch?)))
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 26 July 2016 17: 49
          +4
          Quote: Great Attractor
          Do you have a revolver? Perfectly. If I were you, I would know what to do with it.

          Do not enlighten the dark and what should I do with it, dear?
          1. oldzek
            oldzek 26 July 2016 20: 08
            +3
            just a person boasts a good knowledge of literature. this is a quote from Hasek "the adventures of the gallant soldier Schweik"
          2. edge
            edge 27 July 2016 17: 39
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            Do not enlighten the dark and what should I do with it, dear?

            play Russian roulette .....
        3. Massimo
          Massimo 27 July 2016 02: 38
          +2
          And they all the time in the fall are quiet, they knock their teeth in the winter, endure and only in the spring, when warming, is heard over the "Puppy": "Glory to the heroes"
          1. edge
            edge 27 July 2016 17: 43
            0
            Quote: Massimo
            And they all the time in the fall are quiet, they knock their teeth in the winter, endure and only in the spring, when warming, is heard over the "Puppy": "Glory to the heroes"

            I looked at the words of the hymns: “Pshekov, the Polish has not disappeared yet,” “Ukrainians haven’t died yet.
      2. Retvizan
        Retvizan 26 July 2016 19: 53
        +4
        So this is what they asked before prohibiting - and what if it is mirror-like .. But in the government, what do they think .. the main thing is "aggressors, war .." and Roshen sells himself. And the gas flows to itself, and when necessary, and the fuel is free for sale "aggressive from the aggressor to protect against the aggressor"
        They shot themselves in the leg (more precisely, in the leg of the business, they didn’t shoot their legs)
        "Our teachers are good ... we have little brains" The Americans are selling themselves. And ours except clumsy - to prohibit, know nothing.
        In general, that’s right! Do not want to think with your head so through the ass.
        There are no complaints about the article as well as to the Vajra. The only thing is that the Yuzhny port is not at all idle. Wait a moment, the load on Odessa has increased very much .. have to drop everything on satellites.
        And with transit, it’s predicted-zrada.
        1. Krasniy_lis
          Krasniy_lis 27 July 2016 11: 48
          +1
          Quote: Retvizan
          Wait, the load on Odessa has increased.

          Hence the conclusion. If transit has decreased (or completely disappeared), what is exported? Answer: that they could spioner. Sold out the remnants of the country. For what they rode, they jump on that.
      3. edge
        edge 27 July 2016 17: 37
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        In my opinion, this is called the rectum of Eurasia.

        The rectum is the last 20 cm in which everything that is not absorbed turns into smelly
    9. vodolaz
      vodolaz 26 July 2016 18: 22
      +2
      What an interesting statistic. Well, they themselves sought this.
    10. Dam
      Dam 26 July 2016 18: 35
      +3
      That's for sure, judging by the fecal rubble that they call the elite
    11. Lord_Bran
      Lord_Bran 27 July 2016 09: 39
      0
      I think that this can be characterized by the word "suck".
    12. edge
      edge 27 July 2016 16: 51
      0
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      In my opinion, this is called the rectum of Eurasia.

      which has the likelihood of becoming an appendix, and with the development of inflammation, it will simply be cut to universal agreement
    13. Pitot
      Pitot 27 July 2016 18: 22
      0
      More specifically, hemorrhoids, geyrops are basically the same blind, but not the gut, and the sphincter is like a big one, it only hurts a lot and always reminds of itself, and you don’t use it with a kind word ....
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 26 July 2016 15: 33
    +32
    https://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/643/xmqp236.jpg

    The inflamed cecum (appendicitis) is usually removed. Doctor. In the hospital, in the surgical department.
    But territory 404 (inflamed cecum) with all its actions shows that it decided to self-withdraw.
    No anesthesia.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 26 July 2016 15: 41
      +10
      Nah, they will not eat. Three months later, the former prime minister is photographed with her against the backdrop of the Lincoln Memorial. smile
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 26 July 2016 16: 49
        +10
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Nah, they will not eat.

        Devour, devour. And not in three months, but immediately, especially if this gift comes from Russia. yes
      2. dauria
        dauria 26 July 2016 18: 05
        +7
        Nah, they will not eat. Three months later, the former prime minister is photographed with her.


        Bravo, but in vain you are so thin ... laughing Moreover, it is necessary to "google" what country this memorial is in and who is Lincoln ... It should be simpler, more straightforward. "Yatsenyuk declared the chicken eaten and took it to the USA ..."
    2. Stauffenberg
      Stauffenberg 26 July 2016 15: 47
      +2
      First, the chicken will become yellow - black
    3. Masya masya
      Masya masya 26 July 2016 15: 47
      +18
      Something like this... wink
    4. Executer
      Executer 26 July 2016 16: 43
      +4
      An inflamed cecum is almost peritonitis! Only one way out - cut to hell!
      1. samoletil18
        samoletil18 26 July 2016 21: 37
        +4
        An inflamed colon is not yet peritonitis. For example, inflammation of the colon - colitis. But traumatic damage to the abdominal organs, purulent-necrotic processes in the abdominal cavity cause inflammation of the peritoneum - peritonitis. Moreover, peritonitis is non-specific, i.e., caused by the microflora characteristic of the abdominal cavity, and specific, i.e. brought from outside. Aseptic peritonitis is possible: spill of bile, urine, gastric and pancreas of juices caused by the destruction of the corresponding abdominal organs.
        Peritonitis of Ukraine is the most interesting case in geopolitical surgery. Specific inflammation is caused by any Bandera flora. Specific brought from the USA and EU. Aseptic has been brewing for two years, so far latently, but when it worsens, then a fatal outcome has a very high probability.
        Question: at whose expense is the funeral or rehabilitation? One FIG costs a lot.
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 27 July 2016 01: 58
        +2
        Quote: Executer
        An inflamed cecum is almost peritonitis! Only one way out - cut to hell!

        Dear, peritonitis is an inflammation of the abdominal cavity. The most common cause is sepsis from intestinal perforation.
  3. Irokez
    Irokez 26 July 2016 15: 34
    +1
    Yes, it does not look like an appendix that has become inflamed.
  4. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 26 July 2016 15: 36
    +4
    Actually - in fact, and. And what? Actually? No, why are they attached to Russia, huh? No, a parasitic nation.
    To take a hammer ... yes on a teapot, got already. WE NEED THEM! With horseradish loaves must something ???
  5. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 26 July 2016 15: 38
    +6
    More like a "chocolate" window to Europe.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 26 July 2016 15: 50
      +7
      Let me rephrase - not a "chocolate window to Europe". and the chocolate hollow of Europe.
      Oh how it happened ....
  6. ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 26 July 2016 15: 41
    +12
    And to hell with this Ukrainian.
    1. Volodin Dmitry
      Volodin Dmitry 26 July 2016 16: 50
      +8
      That's for sure. Recently, the Ivory Coast has been closer and dearer bully
  7. kepmor
    kepmor 26 July 2016 15: 43
    +5
    Everything is right! And do not now fight with the Ukrainian fascists, but just crush Svidomo economically-they themselves will grow wiser or die, although the first is not very obvious!
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 26 July 2016 16: 24
      +6
      Quote: kepmor
      Everything is right! And do not now fight with the Ukrainian fascists, but just crush Svidomo economically-they themselves will grow wiser or die, although the first is not very obvious!

      Yeah, they die, how ........... in Ukraine money is only for Natsik.
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 26 July 2016 23: 21
        0
        so too few Natsiks, their khataskrayniks with shovels in the gateways will wait, and then, perhaps, Ukraine will begin to "rise from its knees."

        We (RF) have nowhere to rush ....
  8. Egoza
    Egoza 26 July 2016 15: 45
    +21
    However, for the Ukrainian leadership the so-called The fight against Russia, leading Ukraine to suicide, seems to be a higher priority than a profitable business that fills the Ukrainian treasury.

    That's just the point! Who needs the "Ukrainian treasury" when in the "war with Russia" you can put much more in your OWN POCKET. And after all, the "bastards-investors" have calculated everything and do not want to buy the Odessa port plant. The price has already been reduced twice and nothing!
    1. sever.56
      sever.56 26 July 2016 15: 55
      +17
      Quote: Egoza
      Who needs the "Ukrainian treasury" when in the "war with Russia" you can put much more in your OWN POCKET.


      I agree with you, Elena. And a vivid example of this - "European shaft) - a fence made of a chain-link netting and grooves. The fence is not completed, the grooves are not dug. Pennies on the pocket. Senya warms his frail little body on the beaches in Florida.
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 26 July 2016 19: 45
        +4
        Quote: sever.56
        I agree with you, Elena. And a vivid example of this - "European shaft) - a fence made of a chain-link netting and grooves. The fence is not completed, the grooves are not dug. Pennies on the pocket. Senya warms his frail little body on the beaches in Florida.


        It’s high time for Senya to send comrades with an ice ax, otherwise the guy is out of breath.
    2. Lyton
      Lyton 26 July 2016 16: 21
      +5
      The saddest thing is that all these manipulations of ours will suffer simple duped people, apparently it’s right, how much you can wipe yourself off with spitting in your address can see sooner, and those who are in power in the outskirts have long been in capitalism, they should go on their own countries do not give a damn, if they press, they will run away to mattress, hide there.
      1. svp67
        svp67 26 July 2016 16: 51
        +6
        Quote: Lyton
        The saddest thing is that all these manipulations of ours will suffer simple duped people,

        It is still possible to endure up to a certain point, but sooner or later the time comes when it is necessary to decide who is dearest to you, more important and more expensive ... How sad it is.
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    4. svp67
      svp67 26 July 2016 16: 26
      +4
      Quote: Egoza
      And after all, the "bastards-investors" have calculated everything and do not want to buy the Odessa port plant.

      Investors, although they are bastards, they can count. the question is immediately, but what will they carry through this port? What will he earn? With the loss of transit from Russia, nobody needs this port in such volumes.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 26 July 2016 20: 02
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        With the loss of transit from Russia nobody needs this port in such volumes


        Well, why ... For the Ukrainian Navy, which exercises total control of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, it will come in handy ...
    5. avt
      avt 26 July 2016 16: 37
      +7
      Quote: Egoza
      - They all calculated and the Odessa port plant did not want to buy. The price has already been reduced twice and nothing!

      request And to whom did he give up without Russian oil ??? As well as the ammonia pipeline to Odessa without ammonia from Tatarstan ????
      1. es.d
        es.d 26 July 2016 17: 00
        +4
        Togliatti is somewhere in the Samara region, if you are talking about ammonia from ToAZ recourse
        1. avt
          avt 26 July 2016 17: 21
          +1
          Quote: es.d
          Togliatti is somewhere in the Samara region, if you are talking about ammonia from ToAZ

          I don’t know exactly who is filling, let it be from the Volga region.
      2. Retvizan
        Retvizan 26 July 2016 19: 59
        +2
        Are you laughing? Perhaps both comments are about OPZ, not about the port.
        HMOs are happy to sell-RF can easily buy it through the gasket. And PORT Odessa itself is the largest port of Ukraine and oil is not its specificity.
    6. Onotollah
      Onotollah 26 July 2016 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      when in the "war with Russia" you can put much more in your OWN POCKET

      It is believed that the moment is controversial.
      You could just sit on a pipe and other transits without any rustling and row the headstock with a shovel.
      Such a big shovel.
      And calmly trade. And again to row the loot.
      Ukrainians threw the American owners.
      Now they have no money (and not to be expected), but there is a civil war.
      From tse peremog.
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 26 July 2016 23: 29
        +2
        the question of nikapli is not controversial, you just do not take into account the fact that these were DIFFERENT people, it was someone OTHER who cut the loot on transit, and not "YA", but for this "YA" the war is a mother, it is not for him to run under bullets ....
        1. Onotollah
          Onotollah 27 July 2016 06: 37
          +1
          People may be different. And the benefits of transit in a peaceful environment are far more than sawn up a poor country’s budget in a civil war.
  9. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 26 July 2016 15: 47
    +2
    Quote: dchegrinec
    More like a "chocolate" window to Europe.


    In, damn it, we do not need to open the window "from there". Well this is Pandora's box. Let's hook on for centuries of problems. Do we need it, this gonor? As Ranevskaya used to say.
  10. krops777
    krops777 26 July 2016 15: 50
    +7
    At the end of last year, Russian Railways published information on the transportation of Chinese goods through the Trans-Siberian Railway. The growth in traffic for the first 11 months increased by 89%, and over the year - by 98% (66 thousand TEU containers). Since 2009, the total volume of transportation of all goods along the Trans-Siberian Railway has grown 7 times - up to 131 thousand TEU containers (20-foot containers). In fact, we are talking about the explosive growth of transportation along the Trans-Siberian Railway


    I confirm these words the Trans-Siberian Railway is now loaded head over heels, but even the leadership of Russian Railways is slowly responding to the changing situation.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 26 July 2016 18: 29
      +3
      I confirm these words the Trans-Siberian Railway is now loaded head over heels, but even the leadership of Russian Railways is slowly responding to the changing situation. ,,
      Yes, and airplanes (bypassing Ukraine) and dart. What I am convinced of every day, the movement, as on a busy highway (I live not far from the border.
  11. Tusv
    Tusv 26 July 2016 15: 57
    +10
    Yeah. Hard with European ambitions on Eurasian realities. Ust-Luga already ate Klaipeda and did not stifle
  12. Arkan
    Arkan 26 July 2016 16: 01
    +4
    No brains, respectively, no money!
  13. askort154
    askort154 26 July 2016 16: 01
    +22
    Lucky Khokhlov! Unemployment is not known to them. They used to dig the Black Sea, recently they built a fence, now they will dig pipes and dismantle a piece of iron.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 26 July 2016 16: 19
      +9
      Quote: askort154
      Lucky Khokhlov!

      I don’t know how lucky they are. We cut off 250 meters of fiber-optic cable, I report to the chief administrator. He scratches his turnip and can't understand: "He's on sale in every store."
  14. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 26 July 2016 16: 02
    +2
    Well, so far not everything is so rosy - Ukrainian freight trains follow our Rostov region, and trucks with their flag flash on our roads. I am silent about the fact that their Bogdan buses carry passengers in Rostov-on-Don itself - they were bought by a private company.
    1. Volodin Dmitry
      Volodin Dmitry 26 July 2016 16: 55
      +2
      Yes figs with them with "bogdans" they and we ride in Sverdlovsk. Bought under Yanyka
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 26 July 2016 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Well, so far not everything is so rosy, Ukrainian freight trains follow our Rostov region, and trucks with their flag flash on our roads.

      Just in the Rostov region it is clear where trucks with the Ukrainian flag can go. For the Klimovtsy are not yet able to provide the St. Petersburg VK-2500 with all of our helicopter industry. But there are still engines for the Mi-26, which we do not do at all.
  15. fellow misha
    fellow misha 26 July 2016 16: 03
    +4
    The main thing is to jump rhythmically, the rest is trifles)))
  16. cheburator
    cheburator 26 July 2016 16: 07
    +5
    Blind, not blind, but through any "gut" you will always find yourself in a place known to everyone and so necessary for them! A fair wind and a feather to that place! And maybe abroad will help them? laughing
  17. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 26 July 2016 16: 09
    +1
    this is too much!
  18. Berber
    Berber 26 July 2016 16: 13
    +3
    I don’t know whether to be happy or sad? Though stubborn, but ours. As a result, the west wins. Brother beats his brother's face, and the Tolerasts rejoice.
    1. Dimon19661
      Dimon19661 26 July 2016 16: 24
      +18
      And why are they ours ??? Watch Ukrainian TV channels, read the press, the Internet, and stop thinking in terms of the 20th century. They have long raised a generation that hates Russia and Russians.
  19. prior
    prior 26 July 2016 16: 20
    +4
    "Ukraine is becoming a cecum".
    And note this without announcing any sanctions.
    1. svp67
      svp67 26 July 2016 16: 27
      +9
      Quote: prior
      And note this without announcing any sanctions.

      and most importantly "America and the whole world with them" ... It is more interesting how much easier it made them?
  20. afrikanez
    afrikanez 26 July 2016 16: 23
    +4
    Quote: Wend
    Quote: Stauffenberg
    In my opinion, this is called the rectum of Eurasia.

    Russia ceases to feed Russophobic parasites. This is a good sign. They closed the transit through the Baltic states, now through Ukraine, a good trend. The USSR did not suit you - Russia, they wanted to capitalism? Welcome.
    Yes, apparently, and capitalism does not suit them, they are accustomed to living for "free" in the USSR, so until now, the habit will not disappear. negative
  21. siberalt
    siberalt 26 July 2016 16: 27
    +6
    "Transit State"?
    This is already an exaggeration. Ukraine has never been a state and will not become one without external crutches. For the rejected part of the organism will not become an organism. Of course, under the "system" for some time and undermined until it is completely turned off. It would be more correct to call the former Ukrainian SSR a territory controlled by the United States.
  22. matross
    matross 26 July 2016 16: 28
    +4
    Author! Transaero no longer reduces anything, she died!
  23. gg.na
    gg.na 26 July 2016 16: 31
    +6
    Very wonderful trend good ! All the transit to hell let them live without a freebie! Maybe at least they’ll get busy, work what to learn, although only the grave will correct humpbacked wink !
  24. atamankko
    atamankko 26 July 2016 16: 31
    +4
    The junta will destroy itself, the mind is no government to govern,
    , and fill your pocket with passion as you want, the rest is sideways.
  25. HAM
    HAM 26 July 2016 16: 36
    +6
    Guards, Muscovites rob !! Build, damned, ports, factories, railways bypassing: US FOR SHO !!!? crying crying How to download now?
  26. Siberian1965
    Siberian1965 26 July 2016 16: 36
    +6
    Quote: Arkan
    No brains, respectively, no money!

    Everyone struggled to understand why these heroes pulled pots on pumpkins. Only now it has come. The screen is for the brain, so that stupidity on the gun does not leak. At all pans there are not enough heroes and rushing.
  27. Belarus
    Belarus 26 July 2016 16: 40
    +7
    All this is certainly wonderful, but where will those who stay there out of people break? WEIGHT ? I doubt it very much, but the fact that they will rush to Russia with a high degree of probability is more likely to be so.
    Then how to filter it ??? I mean those who really respect the Russian Federation and those who simply changed their skin for sheep ???? After all, lowering Ukraine economically to the Russian Federation is not difficult, but what to do with those who come to the Russian Federation, that’s the question ??? !!!
    1. PROXOR
      PROXOR 26 July 2016 17: 12
      +13
      But there is no question. All who come here work are forced to buy a patent for work. Taxes go to the treasury of the Russian Federation. They can send the remains home. Here really, honestly earned.
      And all the Heroes who began to open a bread slicer here about Salo were closed for a long time to Ukraine, and their own. So let them go to work. And then Tajiks and Uzbeks are already a little impudent in the absence of competition.
    2. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 26 July 2016 23: 37
      +1
      Well, yes, they will come to work, buy a patent for temporary huts, or receive citizenship, but they will only give work to those who are really busy with business, and only away from the "capitals".
  28. Egoza
    Egoza 26 July 2016 16: 40
    +14
    Dear! Sorry, that is not the topic, BUT MINING on the Way of the Cross procession turned out to be TRUTH! Bomb, explosives, grenades ... all details can be seen in the photo here ...
    http://www.segodnya.ua/hot/Krestniy-hod.html
    and I would like to hear the opinion of experts about these demining. There are a lot of photos.
    It seems to me that the authorities, unable to stop people, have mined and demined themselves in order to intimidate those who go to Kiev. Less than 20 km left. And these are the Ukrainians who want peace. So, not all of them have poisoned themselves in the heat of nationalism. They are threatened, "you will not return alive," but people are coming.
    Shl. Poroshenko flew away to rest the day before. He has a "hatynka" in Malaga.
    1. avt
      avt 26 July 2016 17: 25
      +4
      Quote: Egoza
      Less than 20 km left. And these are the Ukrainians who want peace. So, not all of them have poisoned themselves in the heat of nationalism. They are threatened, "you will not return alive," but people are coming.

      Lord Well, if only I had the brains to do without blood!
      Quote: Egoza
      . Poroshenko flew away on the eve to rest.

      Pissing a bastard is a bad sign! But all one thing - oooh - I really hope that passes without provocations!
    2. HAM
      HAM 26 July 2016 19: 05
      +6
      Gorbachev, at one time, also hid his head in the sand in Foros, and Erdogan also "rested" - just de javu ...
  29. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 26 July 2016 16: 42
    +3
    The Baltic states have achieved the same. But even though they are sitting without work at home, they have the opportunity to make money in the EU with pipelines, janitors and dishwashers (the most interesting is that they are happy with this). Ukrainians there too. But now you have to wait for a visa-free regime with the EU as manna from heaven. Tired of living normally? Oh well ...
    1. reservist
      reservist 26 July 2016 17: 15
      +6
      so a visa-free regime in the EU does not imply the ability to legally work
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 26 July 2016 23: 39
        0
        it doesn’t mean much ...
  30. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 26 July 2016 16: 43
    +3
    Quote: Tusv
    I don’t know how lucky they are. We cut off 250 meters of fiber-optic cable, I report to the chief administrator. He scratches his turnip and can't understand: "He's on sale in every store."


    I went for mushrooms, found under a tree !!! You can’t imagine it. True, not 250m, smaller. Well, who needed to shove the bay and hide? Okay, there is copper-aluminum ... There are no offices in the area, where you can pull and where to fuse. Wonderful. Among the forest, the ownerless fiber, hmm ...
  31. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 26 July 2016 16: 47
    +11
    Yes ... Ukraine is getting closer to a complete collapse. But after the collapse of the Union, she probably got the best piece: the territory, the procurement, agricultural, and access to the sea - live and rejoice! Domaidan, independent, even transit resources were requested ... whether. The authorities are promoting their Russophobic actions only in order to have time to suck out what remains. The people are silent. A terrible hangover awaits.
  32. KVashentcev
    KVashentcev 26 July 2016 16: 54
    0
    Bravo Mr. President!
  33. viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 26 July 2016 17: 02
    +5
    Quote: dumpy15
    Intestinal parasites (especially strangers) cannot be fed. But note that the entire bazaar goes around pipes pumping out Russia's natural wealth. In essence, Russia continues to be a raw materials appendage of the global economy. This is our main misfortune. IMHO

    Do you think that America is fighting for pipes just like that? She in every possible way runs from pipes and just nauseates her from oil and gas. You do not have a deep look at this question. Russia, by definition, cannot be anyone’s appendage, because of its size and significance. In fact, I'm sick of conclusions like yours. If you owned oil and gas, would you not sell them?
    1. Onotollah
      Onotollah 26 July 2016 19: 30
      +2
      Quote: viktorrymar
      If you owned oil and gas, would you not sell them?

      Selling energy to put it mildly is not quite right, but it is very simple.
      For example, if oil is divided into fractions in Russia at an oil refinery, the added cost of refined products will remain in Russia. In addition, there will be jobs, taxes, infrastructure, technology. Yes, and refined products themselves will cost much more crude oil.
      But it’s bad luck, it’s expensive to deliver the plant, and it will take a long time to pay back. And the profit is needed now. Therefore, the raw materials are pumped, but it would be more correct to process it.
      It would be more correct to run the same gas used for heating in Europe, let’s say into a gas turbine station and get electricity that is several times more expensive. Again, the entire infrastructure of the house and workplaces are tax-free.
      So again, you need to invest seriously, and again, money is needed right now.
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 27 July 2016 00: 11
        0
        Quote: Onotolle
        Quote: viktorrymar
        If you owned oil and gas, would you not sell them?

        Selling energy to put it mildly is not quite right, but it is very simple.
        For example, if oil is divided into fractions in Russia at an oil refinery, the added cost of refined products will remain in Russia. In addition, there will be jobs, taxes, infrastructure, technology. Yes, and refined products themselves will cost much more crude oil.
        But it’s bad luck, it’s expensive to deliver the plant, and it will take a long time to pay back. And the profit is needed now. Therefore, the raw materials are pumped, but it would be more correct to process it.
        It would be more correct to run the same gas used for heating in Europe, let’s say into a gas turbine station and get electricity that is several times more expensive. Again, the entire infrastructure of the house and workplaces are tax-free.
        So again, you need to invest seriously, and again, money is needed right now.

        you do not see the trees of the forest ...
        1. Onotollah
          Onotollah 27 July 2016 06: 29
          0
          Quote: ProkletyiPirat
          Do not see the forest ...

          Are you talking about?
  34. AID.S
    AID.S 26 July 2016 17: 14
    +2
    It’s a very adequate and comprehensive title of the article. There is no way to add. In theory, you can not read the article, but the author plus!
  35. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 26 July 2016 17: 19
    +4
    Quote: siberalt
    Ukraine has never been a state and will not be such without external crutches.


    That's the topic said. There are still a lot of idealists on the site, like, maybe Ukraine will change its mind? The arrogant freeloaders do not know how to change their minds, they need to KICK. FEET. It comes quickly, I checked in the training on especially the Greyhounds.
  36. evil partisan
    evil partisan 26 July 2016 17: 26
    +3
    Still all the "zrobitchan" who come to us, send "nna" and you can stock up on popcorn and beer yes ... Dzhangirov and Okhrimenko voiced the following figures: it turns out that the Ukrainian "Zrobitchane" sent by mail in 2015, transported legally or illegally up to 7 billion dollars across the border. Of these, about 30% are from Russia.
  37. Who said
    Who said 26 July 2016 17: 44
    +1
    The main thing now is not to let ukrov into Russian territory in any quantity under any guise. And those who leaked under any pretext and excuse to deport
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 26 July 2016 17: 52
      -1
      Quote: Who said
      The main thing now is not to let ukrov into Russian territory in any quantity under any guise. And those who leaked under any pretext and excuse to deport

      But do not mind ..? See what handsome men in the photo ..)))) All yours with you! bully
  38. pts-m
    pts-m 26 July 2016 17: 51
    +4
    The most important thing of Russia's undertakings in this transitory story is not to backtrack when suddenly “waking up” the ruins from a dream-dream of a geyrop. And then in Russia there are enough “liberals” to earn money on painful situations. The urine died, so she died and there was nothing to dissolve.
  39. fa2998
    fa2998 26 July 2016 17: 58
    +1
    Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
    and trucks with their flag flash on our roads.

    I’m reporting! Who wants to invest money successfully, build a gas station in our city (up to the border-5 km.) (And certainly on our street, it goes straight to the customs). There are already a dozen of them (gas stations) but all are packed with trucks with Ukrainian numbers .Prices for gasoline in Ukraine are biting, and they are packing up! smile hi
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 26 July 2016 18: 37
      +1
      ) already a dozen, but all are packed with trucks with Ukrainian numbers ,,
      it’s clear to someone that it’s profitable for now. the team will follow and that’s it, there’s no cheap refueling
  40. Hauptam
    Hauptam 26 July 2016 18: 08
    +1
    As the saying goes, I played the violin. The freebie is over.
  41. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 July 2016 18: 08
    +1
    Quote: Wend
    The USSR did not suit you - Russia, they wanted to capitalism? Welcome.
    Only I did not understand, we invited them to our capitalism, or sent them to ...?
  42. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 26 July 2016 18: 09
    +5
    For what they fought, they ran into it!! On the Gomel highway and on the M-4 there was a continuous stream of trucks. Moreover, in the last two years there have been a lot of trucks with Kazakh numbers. There used to be no trucks, now they are going in columns. The Kievka is almost empty. Passenger cars, beads with ukronomerami.Truzovikov almost none. As I understand it, the Arctic fox to the ukram crept unnoticed.
  43. fa2998
    fa2998 26 July 2016 18: 18
    +4
    Quote: HAM
    Sentry, Muscovites rob !!

    A little to the north of our city there is (well, no longer) an oil pipeline to Ukraine. Now they have built an oil refinery right on the border, and instead of exporting crude oil, trade in refined products, and export through the ports of the Rostov region. Residents of Ukraine can go straight without binoculars where they go. "their oil", and sit on an empty pipe. laughing
    It’s true that the townspeople left an unpleasant aftertaste. Those lands on which the plant stands were taken from the city before start-up and transferred to the neighboring rural Krasno-Sulinsky district. There were rumors about large bribes to deputies of the city Duma. And local taxes went there. -On my street now columns of tank trucks are going around the clock. Oh well! Though not to Ukraine! yes hi
  44. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 26 July 2016 18: 45
    +3
    It's clear, it's nice that we showed the "goat's face" to an ugly neighbor, or rather,
    neighbor, and striving to spit in our soup. And on the other hand, this stream of trucks,
    seven times superior to our flow, probably left a lot of money on our
    Territories - fuel, meals, tolls and other expenses.
    Trading is more profitable than fighting. It’s a pity that the authorities in Ukraine will not understand
    this.
    1. Great Attractor
      Great Attractor 26 July 2016 18: 55
      -7
      Quote: v.yegorov
      v.yegorov Today, 18:45 New
      It's clear, it's nice that we showed the "goat's face" to an ugly neighbor, or rather,
      neighbor, and striving to spit in our soup. And on the other hand, this stream of trucks,
      seven times superior to our flow, probably left a lot of money on our
      Territories - fuel, meals, tolls and other expenses.
      Trading is more profitable than fighting. It’s a pity that the authorities in Ukraine will not understand
      this.


      Do not take it that way in absolute. Not only in Ukraine, but also in Russia. Power. Two years ago, a wise girl warned here, on Military Review, where all this would lead. These toys are in war games (arrows-reenactors, etc.). And to take, among other things, their army home (not to Ukraine, to Russia). So advised. But the local people themselves know what. Only Ukraine is smeared. What about yourself? They sit all over Naglosak (PCs, operating systems, office equipment, etc.) and still fluff their tail beyond measure. Is there any logic?
    2. Volodin Dmitry
      Volodin Dmitry 26 July 2016 18: 55
      0
      I don’t know, purely my opinion: to trade with someone? And, correct me, but to the ignorant I, Russia from time immemorial not a bargain
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 26 July 2016 20: 49
        0
        The main thing is not Svidomo .. what
  45. Corsair
    Corsair 26 July 2016 18: 49
    +1
    what That's how it is - he took a direct part in the construction of the BPS-2 (he was involved in the PSD examination — that is, he built his own site), it’s nice to remember those years — 10 years have passed, and it turns out that they saved the homeland from parasites-transformers.
  46. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 26 July 2016 19: 09
    0
    Stabilization around 0 will be the norm. What to compare is for yourself.
  47. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 26 July 2016 19: 39
    0
    And still, we so damned will not let them go; anyway, we will help, where are we going? Well here we are! Therefore, no one can blame us!
  48. weksha50
    weksha50 26 July 2016 19: 42
    +2
    “In January of this year, Ukraine launched a freight train on the Ilyichevsk-China route as part of the noisy New Silk Road project. However, he never returned"...

    A trip to infinity ... to nowhere ...
    Like the entire ship course called Ukraine ...
  49. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 26 July 2016 19: 43
    +2
    It was necessary to have such a stupid head, not even a stupid head for Ukrainians, so as to voluntarily cut yourself off from Russia in all respects. Only Yaytsenyuk with the American Yaresko could be capable of this. Now consider that Ukraine as such will no longer be.
    1. Great Attractor
      Great Attractor 26 July 2016 20: 00
      -5
      Quote: Anchonsha
      Now consider that Ukraine as such will no longer be.


      But who knows ... It will be or not ... India for some time as such was not. Now I have enough. China, as such, did not exist then and then. Now there is. And what kind. Narrow-eyed 50 years ago, en masse some grasshoppers ate, if not the earth ... Do you remember the classics about Russia? "Great Russia has turned into piles of manure under the sky ..." According to A. Tolstoy, this is the groaning of a Russian patriot about the lost Motherland ... Now patriots of Russia will not boast of their achievements ... So ... Or do you think that Ukrainians are slightly reach the dayaks of Kalimantan? For 2 years, on the Military Review, I somehow understood the opinion of those here --- only Ukrainians are below insects in development.
  50. weksha50
    weksha50 26 July 2016 19: 53
    +2
    "the fight against Russia, leading Ukraine to suicide, seems to be a higher priority than a profitable business"...

    Russia, no matter how it was provoked, never showed up ...
    Ukraine itself is killing itself ... In spite of Russia - it is freezing its ears ...

    PS The data given in the article once again confirm the complete inadequacy of the hands of the leaders of Ukraine ...
    sheer...