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The Mail on Sunday: "The entire national team of Russia will be removed from the Olympics"

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Sunday Daily Mail Edition - The Mail on Sunday - came out with a publication stating that the International Olympic Committee decided to remove all Russian national team from the Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. The newspaper, referring to some sources in the IOC, writes literally the following:
All 387 Russian athletes will be suspended from the Olympics in Rio. The goal of this step is to demonstrate to Moscow that supporting the use of doping by athletes is an attack on world sport.



The Mail on Sunday: "The entire national team of Russia will be removed from the Olympics"


The article adds that the IOC President Thomas Bach "wants to consider the possibility of performing (at the Olympics) of individual Russian athletes." We are talking about those Russian athletes who either conducted the entire training process outside Russia, or wish to perform in Rio not under the flag of the Russian Federation, but under the white flag of the IOC.

The phrase “the white flag of the IOC” has recently acquired a special shade. Apparently, the officials of the International Olympic Committee are ready to throw the white flag before the pressure of politicians who have decided that through sport one can and should put political pressure in favor of one’s own opportunistic interests.

Until now, WADA has not published information about what kind of athletes were caught in the use of doping.

On the eve of the same, the Minister of Sport of the Russian Federation Mutko peculiarly commented on the statement of the Chairman of the CAS (Sports Arbitration Court) John Coates (quote RIA News):
You all know the CAS solution. I asked to do and read a compilation of statements by the chairman of the CAS. He stated: "Russian athletics need to be destroyed." And so on. But you are the chairman of CAS, such a serious body. If the chairman, sit down and be quiet.
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  1. engineering
    engineering 24 July 2016 08: 09
    +47
    And after that they want to come to an agreement with us? It is unfortunate if this is true, such an unfriendly decision cannot be left unanswered. First of all, to return all the money spent on holding this Olympiad, and Russia was invested quite a lot, well, further on the list, and no fuss ...
    1. milann
      milann 24 July 2016 08: 17
      +46
      At one time, Hitler also made a pocket Olympics. Everything is simple. German fascism was replaced by American fascism, and European dodgers were always glad to profit from Russian meat. If you want, you don’t want, but you have to bury these ghouls. In a good way they do not understand.
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 24 July 2016 10: 25
        +8
        They also want to pump up in the winter. By the way, I have no doubt if Trump will not win.
        Without Russia, this is not an olympiad, let instead of athletics they introduce the catch of Pokemon as an Olympic species ...
        1. Persistent
          Persistent 24 July 2016 10: 37
          +19
          Immediately after the landing of Konyukhov, the International Aviation Federation sent gas samples from his balloon to WADA. fool lol
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 24 July 2016 11: 02
            +3
            Quote: Persistent
            Immediately after the landing of Konyukhov, the International Aviation Federation sent gas samples from his balloon to WADA. fool lol

            Is this a joke? And Konyukhov himself didn’t use anything like that? Peas, for example? Have gone crazy. fool
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 24 July 2016 12: 12
              +13
              Wrestling champion Arsen Fadzeev said he would return his medals to the IOC if "the voice of reason is not heard." Deed.
            2. sgazeev
              sgazeev 24 July 2016 14: 31
              0
              The International Aviation Federation immediately after landing Konyukhov sent gas samples from his aerostat to WADA.http: //www.anekdot.ru/id/838134/ laughing
        2. weksha50
          weksha50 24 July 2016 12: 15
          +4
          Quote: NIKNN
          They also want to pump up in the winter.


          Yes, they are already raising the issue of not allowing Russian athletes to attend the 2018 Winter Olympics ...

          How do they hate us ...

          And just because Russia does not want to be one of the sheep in the general managed herd ...

          The war, as you know, is a continuation of politics by force ...
          So, they have equated sport to a political force tool ...
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 17
            +6
            Quote: weksha50
            So, they have equated sport to a political force tool ...

            I will tell you so, it all started much earlier ... Eurovision.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 12: 41
              +1
              no, it’s all sooo long ago
            2. guzik007
              guzik007 24 July 2016 12: 48
              +6
              Is it really about doping?
              So I suspect that if Drozdov were our president, these jackals would forbid the winter flights of our birds: = (
            3. weksha50
              weksha50 24 July 2016 13: 38
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              I will tell you so, it all started much earlier ... Eurovision.



              And that too ...
              And the WTO norms, which Russia has so stubbornly fit into, are being violated against Russia ...
              A lot of things ... A real hybrid war ...
          2. Lukich
            Lukich 24 July 2016 15: 06
            +2
            Quote: weksha50
            So, they have equated sport to a political force tool ...

            recall the 1980 Moscow Olympics. then a pebble was already thrown
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 24 July 2016 08: 21
      +23
      Quote: engineering
      such a non-friendly decision cannot be left unanswered

      "The purpose of this step is to demonstrate to Moscow that supporting doping by athletes is an attack on world sports."

      The purpose of this step is to put pressure on Russia, in principle.

      “IOC President Thomas Bach“ wishes to consider the possibility of performance (at the Olympics) of individual Russian athletes. ”We are talking about those Russian athletes who either spent the entire training process outside Russia, or want to compete in Rio not under the flag of the Russian Federation, but under the white the IOC flag. "

      It’s also a normal move to depersonalize athletes and split our sports society, all according to the training manual. yes
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 08: 49
        +37
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Also normal move - depersonalize

        It’s more likely to humiliate. Want to speak, discard the flag. The next stage: abandon the homeland.
        1. figwam
          figwam 24 July 2016 09: 42
          +7
          This is ordinary fascism, the team is suspended because it is Russian. And we need not to recognize the results of the Olympiad and recoup at the World Cup.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 10: 09
            +3
            Quote: figvam
            And we need not to recognize the results of the Olympiad and recoup at the World Cup.

            And how to announce to the whole world that we refuse to hold it a day before its start?
            And our own fans, after that they will not go to storm the Kremlin?
            1. WKS
              WKS 24 July 2016 10: 22
              +5
              The idea is good. I support. Just give up now.
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 24 July 2016 10: 57
                +14
                ... before the 2018 World Cup they’ll get there ... we’ve been announced a crusade ... why be surprised ... the court in Lausanne takes communal medieval responsibility, they accuse the individual of denouncing him without any evidence, the Holy Inquisition is in action, or else will be ... we were declared a Witch and they are preparing a fire for us ... laughing
            2. 76rtbr
              76rtbr 24 July 2016 12: 19
              +1
              what an assault, what are you talking about, because of some kind of .th Olympiad, do a revolution ???
          2. weksha50
            weksha50 24 July 2016 12: 17
            +2
            Quote: figvam
            And we need not to recognize the results of the Olympiad and recoup at the World Cup.


            In this situation, can they not transfer the World Cup from Russia to another country ???

            After all, they are already talking about depriving Russia of the right to participate in all international competitions ... At least, this idea has already been expressed ...
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 21
              +4
              Quote: weksha50
              In this situation, can they not transfer the World Cup from Russia to another country ???

              After all, they are already talking about depriving Russia of the right to participate in all international competitions ... At least, this idea has already been expressed ...

              There is a split in the sports society ... given that we collect more than one or two medals in summer sports of both the Olipian and Paralympic, the question arises: WERE SUCH GAMES WITHOUT RUSSIA?
              1. atalef
                atalef 24 July 2016 12: 32
                -6
                Quote: NEXUS
                There is a split in the sports society ... given that we collect more than one or two medals in summer sports of both the Olipian and Paralympic, the question arises: WERE SUCH GAMES WITHOUT RUSSIA?

                generally pure athletes can perform
                Does it matter if it is an IOC flag?
                At the Olympics 80 - there were many athletes under the IOC Flag, this did not stop them from getting medals and setting records.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 37
                  +7
                  Quote: atalef
                  At the Olympics 80 - there were many athletes under the IOC Flag, this did not stop them from getting medals and setting records.

                  The mattresses boycotted the Olympics-80 and did not sweat much about this. Why don't we do the same?
                  They somehow do not abandon attempts to split our society. And I regard the decision of the IOC, just so.
                  Spit! Our Olympians are the best for me. Beat these bureaucrats and mattresses in sports with achievements and records. Let them puff out to beat.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 24 July 2016 12: 47
                    -4
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    The mattresses boycotted the Olympics-80 and did not sweat much about this. Why don't we do the same?

                    really why not
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    They somehow do not abandon attempts to split our society. And I regard the decision of the IOC, just so.

                    Riding IOC hurt before Russian society.
                    I see you generally exclude the situation that all this is true and Rossport set up the athletes in full (I say first and foremost about pure athletes)
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Spit! Our Olympians are the best for me. Beat these bureaucrats and mattresses in sports with achievements and records. Let them puff out to beat.

                    and even those caught doping?
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 51
                      +6
                      Quote: atalef
                      I see you generally exclude the situation that all this is true and Rossport set up the athletes in full (I say first and foremost about pure athletes)

                      Quote: atalef
                      and even those caught doping?

                      Even if this is the case, then let's check the American, English and so on athletes ... I'm sure that the percentage in the same US team on doping will be much higher than ours.
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 24 July 2016 12: 56
                        -4
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Quote: atalef
                        I see you generally exclude the situation that all this is true and Rossport set up the athletes in full (I say first and foremost about pure athletes)

                        Quote: atalef
                        and even those caught doping?

                        Even if this is the case, then let's check the American, English and so on athletes ... I'm sure that the percentage in the same US team on doping will be much higher than ours.

                        they catch everyone at the dope and disqualify them too
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%81%D0%BF%


                        D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%88%D1%91%


                        D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D


                        0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9
                        and Americans and British and with more titles than many Russian athletes.
                        http://ria.ru/sport/20090101/158453866.html

                        But nowhere else in these countries was there a doping program organized by government agencies.
                        Not spot athletes were disqualified, the state was disqualified.
                      2. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 58
                        +5
                        Quote: atalef
                        But nowhere else in these countries was there a doping program organized by government agencies.

                        Facts and evidence in the studio, respected by an organized state program in the Russian Federation.
                      3. atalef
                        atalef 24 July 2016 13: 03
                        -1
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Quote: atalef
                        But nowhere else in these countries was there a doping program organized by government agencies.

                        Facts and evidence in the studio, respected by an organized state program in the Russian Federation.

                        read the report.
                      4. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 24 July 2016 13: 05
                        +5
                        Quote: atalef
                        read the report.

                        Whose? IOC? Are you seriously? Dictated by Washington? Do not make me laugh.
                      5. atalef
                        atalef 24 July 2016 13: 07
                        -4
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Quote: atalef
                        read the report.

                        Whose? IOC? Are you seriously? Dictated by Washington? Do not make me laugh.

                        then listen Mutko.
                        | Indeed, why bother reading.
                      6. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 24 July 2016 13: 08
                        +5
                        Quote: atalef
                        then listen Mutko.

                        This desman should not be listened to, but driven along with all its deputies with a bang.
                  2. Lukich
                    Lukich 24 July 2016 15: 14
                    +1
                    Quote: atalef
                    read the report.

                    The report is written by an organization which in the states is not allowed to be close to athletes. that the NHL, that the WBA spit on her
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 12: 57
              +4
              Quote: NEXUS
              Let’s check then American, English and so on athletes.

              yes who will give you? !!!!!!!!!
            3. NEXUS
              NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 59
              +2
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              yes who will give you? !!!!!!!!!

              Here I am about the same.
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          3. sgazeev
            sgazeev 24 July 2016 14: 56
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: atalef
            I see you generally exclude the situation that all this is true and Rossport set up the athletes in full (I say first and foremost about pure athletes)

            Quote: atalef
            and even those caught doping?

            Even if this is the case, then let's check the American, English and so on athletes ... I'm sure that the percentage in the same US team on doping will be much higher than ours.

            For example "brothers" Williams. Tarpischev said his.
        2. sgazeev
          sgazeev 24 July 2016 14: 53
          +1
          To hell with this, the IOC can make a "smoke break" and start "growing" a new generation of athletes at home, otherwise they staged derby races. After Sochi, it started, Formula 1, football. The Germans got burned and realized that without creating a serious sports school you will be a winner. Mutko is weak as a leader, for some reason you cannot hear his repentance, let him go. This is his staff "tried", thieves and dough to cut down more.
        3. SergeBS
          SergeBS 24 July 2016 15: 25
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          and even those caught doping?

          "Announce the entire list, pzhlsta." (Operation Y ...)
          WADA does not publish a list or evidence of doping. It’s clear why.
          They will write the full name - and the full name will be submitted to the COURT, they will require evidence. There is no evidence - "answer, for the market." Bablosiki from behind a puddle, received for meldonium, for 1 such "fly" will fly away all. Then there is a continuous loss.
          Quote: atalef

          But nowhere else in these countries was there a doping program organized by government agencies.
          Not spot athletes were disqualified, the state was disqualified.

          Yeah. And that there is NO evidence of this program - certainly NOT IN THE ACCOUNT. am
          Well, let’s declare that ALL athletes of ALL countries take doping on state programs. ALSO there is no evidence. So ALL countries need to be disqualified. Something is wrong?
          Or can ONLY the Russian Federation be blamed for anything without proof, but the US and the Naglo-Saxons (for example) cannot be - "they are true gentlemen, they SHOULD take their word for it"?
          Well, you can simply "buy" (as our goat was bought) doctors from the USA, England, etc. They will also make a statement that THEIR CIA and MI6 (etc.) supplied meldonium and substituted samples of their athletes ALL the last 3 Olympics.
          There will also be no evidence. And there will also be excuses - "well, where is WADA-2 (ie someone similar, it is clear who bought WADA) against the CIA or MI6".
          Quite a life scenario.
          And in the light of the scandals with Snowden and Assange - MUCH will be believed to be MORE to us, if you so shout.
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 12: 56
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        Why don't we do the same?

        you must first leave the IOC because after OI 80 and 84 the IOC decided to disqualify countries for a boycott of OI
      3. weksha50
        weksha50 24 July 2016 13: 41
        +2
        Quote: NEXUS
        The mattresses boycotted the Olympics-80 and did not sweat much about this. Why don't we do the same?


        The most annoying thing here is that then the mattresses themselves were boycotted, but we are now forcibly "boycotted" ... Alas ... repeat
  • Lukich
    Lukich 24 July 2016 15: 10
    +2
    Quote: weksha50
    In this situation, can they not transfer the World Cup from Russia to another country ???

    where? no one will agree. in 2 years it is impossible to prepare. therefore, FIFA declares that it is not considering such an option
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 24 July 2016 10: 29
    +10
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    It’s more likely to humiliate. Want to speak, discard the flag. The next stage: abandon the homeland.

    Absolutely ... to split our sports world. But I am sure that our athletes are not "star-studded" representatives of show business and the answer will be unequivocal.
    I think, as an option, to resume the GOODWILL GAMES, and there to beat their records, which will be set at the Olympics. And this will make more sense than all our protests and lamentations about the decision of the Olympic Committee.
    1. atalef
      atalef 24 July 2016 11: 08
      -2
      Quote: NEXUS
      Absolutely ... to split our sports world. But I am sure that our athletes are not "star-studded" representatives of show business and the answer will be unequivocal.

      Wait a bit, your heels will end your career and your mouths will be untied
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 24 July 2016 11: 11
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        Wait a bit, your heels will end your career and your mouths will be untied

        Oh, oh ... our athletes, although not poor people, understand what the honor of the country and the flag is, unlike the whole glamorous show of the company. Therefore, I’m sure, DO NOT WAIT.
        1. atalef
          atalef 24 July 2016 11: 33
          -3
          Quote: NEXUS
          Oh ... our athletes, although not poor people, but understand what the honor of the country and flag is

          Who else but Radchenko is in the WADA surveyors? Not athletes?
          although it’s Snowden’s hero, and Radchenko and Co., who spoke about all this mud, Mutko and Co. are traitors who do not value the flag’s honor.
          Sport should be clean (Putin seems to say so)
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 24 July 2016 11: 48
            +10
            Quote: atalef
            and Radchenko and Co., who spoke about all this mud, Mutko and Co. are traitors who do not value the honor of the flag.

            Are Mutko & Co athletes? This amphibian should have been driven in three necks long after Vancouver. And I even think that in the light of recent events, it would not be superfluous to clean up the ranks of our sports committee, including the ministry involved in our sports. And if the Olympic Committee puts us down so easily in front of the eyes of the whole world, it means that our ministry “doesn’t catch mice.” So, before addressing petitions and complaints to the world community, our sport ministry should be cleaned of rats and parasites?
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 24 July 2016 12: 44
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              This amphibian had long had to be driven into three necks even after Vancouver.

              Mutko wrote a letter of resignation after Vancouver, but he was persuaded. So as not to consider it a fake, here is a link to 2010.
              https://news.rambler.ru/olympics/5512091-mutko_gotov_uyti_s_posta_ministra_sport
              a/
          2. SergeBS
            SergeBS 24 July 2016 16: 23
            0
            Quote: atalef
            although it’s Snowden’s hero, and Radchenko and Co., who spoke about all this mud, Mutko and Co. are traitors who do not value the flag’s honor.

            Uh-huh. Only Snowden dragged thousands of documents "in his beak" (which PHYSICALLY could not have concocted himself, for example), but Radchenko only has "a gentleman's word". Just like in an anecdote:
            - Givi, prove the Pythagorean theorem.
            - Wah, mother klyanus, I’m telling the truth.
    2. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 11: 19
      -1
      Quote: NEXUS
      I think, as an option, to renew the Goodwill Games,

      countries of the SOCIALIST camp took part in them. where are they now? together o6sip @ yut Russia. and who will come to this "revival"?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 24 July 2016 11: 25
        +4
        Quote: Lukich
        countries of the SOCIALIST camp took part in them. where are they now? together o6sip @ yut Russia. and who will come to this "revival"?

        There used to be a socialist camp, but now no ... what's the difference? The same tank biathlon collects more and more participants every year, so why can the Goodwill Games be an exception? I’ll tell you more, they showed us that sovereignty can be not only political or economic, but also sports. So why not have this sovereignty in sports? Or do you seriously believe that they will hear and understand us in the same Olympic committee, which was thoroughly lobbied with mattresses and a venal one like a girl on the porch?
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 06
          -1
          Quote: NEXUS
          There used to be a socialist camp, but now no ... what's the difference?

          yes HUGE. no federation will give permission to participate under pain of disqualification.
          Quote: NEXUS
          The same tank biathlon gathers more and more participants every year,

          so there the decision is made by the MO of the countries, and not the federation of sports which give consent to participate. we have already seen their attitude towards us. once again about biathlon. from NATO countries who is?
          Quote: NEXUS
          so why can the goodwill games be an exception? I’ll tell you more, they showed us that sovereignty can be not only political or economic, but also sports. So why not have this sovereignty in sports? Or do you seriously believe that they will hear and understand us in the same Olympic committee, which was thoroughly lobbied with mattresses and a venal one like a girl on the porch?

          the decision for admission to the Olympics team athletics little? today and the whole team may not be allowed. about sovereignty. name at least one country that will send its team. except North Korea. well with a stretch of China
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 16
            +2
            Quote: Lukich
            yes HUGE. no federation will give permission to participate under pain of disqualification.

            Sure?
            Quote: Lukich
            so there the decision is made by the MO of countries,

            And then the ministries involved in sports. So what? Americans want to SHOWLY humiliate and punish us in front of the whole world, so that others do not know ... what can appeals and complaints to international instances give if this whole international nativity scene contains mattresses and it is they who "dance the girl"? What's the use of puffing our cheeks and getting angry at them if the outcome of the decision doesn't change?
            Quote: Lukich
            from NATO countries who is?

            And in a quantitative question, is NATO the whole world?
            Quote: Lukich
            the decision for admission to the Olympics team athletics little?

            Few! I will only be satisfied with the decision to admit all of our athletes to the Olympics, without exception, and let them eat this "bone from the master's table" and choke on it.
            Quote: Lukich
            about sovereignty. name at least one country that will send its team. except North Korea. well with a stretch of China

            Do not decide for others. Everything in this world is changing rapidly and I am sure that sport is no exception.
            1. Lukich
              Lukich 24 July 2016 15: 34
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              And then the ministries involved in sports. So what? and

              maybe athletes will not confuse the military? Does tank biathlon have its own international federation?
              Quote: NEXUS

              And in a quantitative question, is NATO the whole world?

              I'm not talking about quantity. I'm talking about permission. they will not allow NATO countries to send biathlon tanks to us. here is pure politics and no sport
              Quote: NEXUS
              Few! I will only be satisfied with the decision to admit all of our athletes to the Olympics, without exception, and let them eat this "bone from the master's table" and choke on it.

              and this is not to the village, not to the city. I kind of wrote about a decision on admission that was made contrary to all laws

              Quote: NEXUS
              Do not decide for others. Everything in this world is changing rapidly and I am sure that sport is no exception.

              but when the sanctions are lifted from Russia, then it will be possible to talk about an alternative. and while everyone is dancing to the tune of phasington, there’s nothing to talk about. in words they are against sanctions, for friendship with Russia, as it comes to voting, everything is unanimously for the extension. like that now in sports
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 41
        +2
        Quote: Lukich
        the countries of the SOCIALIST camp took part in them

        when already before you write something, you will check the Old
        79 countries participated including Americans
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 11
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          countries including Americans

          I well remember these games and who participated. not from google. then the sashis did not dictate their conditions to the world and the international federations were not under their control as they are now. namely, they decide to participate. so there were so many countries. but they were not teams in all sports, but individual participants. question: name at least 5 countries who will arrive?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 12: 44
            +2
            Quote: Lukich
            name at least 5 countries who will come?

            I think the Chinese, the Indians, maybe the Latinos, the question is not who will come, but what will be the results of the competition and how it will be covered
            once again if the world champion according to the IOC will have worse results than at our games it will be a very strong blow
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 46
              +1
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              once again if the world champion according to the IOC will have worse results than at our games it will be a very strong blow

              Here I am about the same! good Let our results try to surpass.
            2. Lukich
              Lukich 24 July 2016 15: 40
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              I think the Chinese

              with a stretch. for this they can also be trampled from the IOC
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              Indians

              field hockey. definitely have medals. will not take risks.
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              the question is not who will come, but what competition results will be

              but where do the results come from if the strongest houses sit?
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              once again if the world champion according to the IOC will have worse results than at our games it will be a very strong blow

              it is necessary that "OUR" games are recognized in the world. give them international status, and if no one comes, it will be the Russian championship. maybe open. but not international
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 16: 40
                0
                Quote: Lukich
                with a stretch. for this they can also be trampled from the IOC

                100% never, this will be the definitive end of the IOC
                Quote: Lukich
                but where do the results come from if the strongest houses sit?

                and ours with the Chinese world results can not date?
                Quote: Lukich
                it is necessary that "OUR" games are recognized in the world.

                it doesn't matter if the results are announced and recorded, the "champions" will already be in a puddle
                1. Lukich
                  Lukich 24 July 2016 19: 24
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  100% never, this will be the definitive end of the IOC

                  why else?
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  and ours with the Chinese world results can not date?

                  and who recognizes them if the competition is illegitimate?
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  it doesn’t matter if the results are announced and recorded,

                  who will fix? not one judge with an international license will come. Well, what do you call competitions between 2 countries? parallelka?))))
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 45
        +1
        Quote: Lukich
        and who will come to this "revival"?

        I remember the 72nd year ... the USSR as a rogue country. And then our hockey team with 17th number. And the vaunted Canadian professionals of our national team challenged, as we didn’t see other rivals, neither the USA, nor the Swedes, nor the Finns ...
        I'm talking about the results. If our athlete sets a record that will not be able to surpass the "cardboard" Olympian from the collection of US satellites, he is worthless and his medals.
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 15: 43
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          I remember the 72nd year ... the USSR as an outcast country

          USSR country OUTcast ??????? yes God is with you. Yes, the whole world was afraid and respect us. NATO was afraid to twitch. Americans are not impudent. just puffed. what horror, you can’t imagine in delirium, the USSR is an outcast country ...
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 24 July 2016 16: 16
            +1
            Quote: Lukich
            you can’t imagine delirious, the USSR is an outcast country ...

            Did you go under the sanctions of the USSR? The Saudis, at the suggestion of the United States, brought down oil prices in those years? Yes, for the capitalist "enlightened" world, the Union was an outcast.
            Quote: Lukich
            Yes, the whole world was afraid and respect us.

            I was afraid yes, I respected ... hmm ... it is debatable, maybe even in those days there were Anglo-Saxons, and there was a policy of pressure on the USSR.
            1. Lukich
              Lukich 24 July 2016 19: 29
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              Yes, for the capitalist "enlightened" world, the Union was an outcast.

              That's it, for the capitalist. then the world was divided approximately in half and half the world were our friends. Well, the sanctions ... from Cuba only this year removed and so what?
              Quote: NEXUS
              I was afraid yes, I respected ... hmm ... it is debatable, maybe even in those days there were Anglo-Saxons, and there was a policy of pressure on the USSR.

              and we had a Socialist Camp and CMEA and the Warsaw Pact, and we wanted to put pressure on that. they have been crushing since 1917, but we only got stronger
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 24 July 2016 19: 53
                +1
                Quote: Lukich
                and we had a Socialist Camp and CMEA and the Warsaw Pact, and we wanted to put pressure on that. they have been crushing since 1917, but we only got stronger

                Or maybe it's time to tie down to bend and concede? There are no hopeless situations, but there is no desire to do something. Yes, it’s difficult, but perhaps the most important thing is to start now, because they will continue to bend over with and without ...
                Now we need a solution. And any solution has supporters and opponents. For all, you will not be good.
    3. SergeBS
      SergeBS 24 July 2016 15: 31
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      RESUME GOOD WILL WILL GAMES

      And to agree with someone to send teams to BOTH Olympiads, like "we don't know who is right, so in both places we will run and jump." Those who are more common in Rio. So that we have records. wink
  • SSR
    SSR 24 July 2016 09: 42
    +2
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: engineering
    such a non-friendly decision cannot be left unanswered

    "The purpose of this step is to demonstrate to Moscow that supporting doping by athletes is an attack on world sports."

    The purpose of this step is to put pressure on Russia, in principle.

    “IOC President Thomas Bach“ wishes to consider the possibility of performance (at the Olympics) of individual Russian athletes. ”We are talking about those Russian athletes who either spent the entire training process outside Russia, or want to compete in Rio not under the flag of the Russian Federation, but under the white the IOC flag. "

    It’s also a normal move to depersonalize athletes and split our sports society, all according to the training manual. yes

    Not only to depersonalize but to stimulate the process of diversion of promising athletes and to maximally stimulate athletes to train in Europe and the USA, but this leak and coaching staff are my relatives more and more often go to gymnastics training in Europe and our trainers invite and train Europeans who left the Wiener team and knew the choreographic talent of the brother-in-law’s wife.
  • NIKNN
    NIKNN 24 July 2016 12: 40
    +2
    I am sure the answer will be a very worthy answer ...
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 24 July 2016 08: 22
    +40
    I suggest that those who are going to go to the Olympics return tickets. I also propose to boycott the Olympics and not watch the broadcast.
    1. Delink
      Delink 24 July 2016 08: 47
      +21
      Do not watch, but turn off the channels broadcasting the Olympics.
      Accredited journalists should not be sent to the Olympics.
      On the Internet, block all sites relaying the Olympics.
      1. maxxdesign
        maxxdesign 24 July 2016 08: 58
        +4
        and who will get worse from this? it is not Turkey without our vacationers, who bring them the main income ... there will be plenty of people there without our fans ... and if the organizers lose money, then a small amount ...
        and with such a boycott Russia will show its weakness ... you need to go further .. to challenge, demand evidence (which is not like in that famous test tube), expose all this gang of pseudo-sports organizations in a lie ... demand the dissolution and closure of these bureaus ... show to the whole world that the next could be any country not liked by the Americans ...
        1. Simpsonian
          Simpsonian 24 July 2016 09: 29
          +4
          It does not interfere ...
        2. larand
          larand 24 July 2016 09: 39
          +10
          Quote: maxxdesign
          you need to go further .. to challenge, demand evidence (which is not like in that famous test tube), expose all this gang of pseudo-sports organizations in a lie ... demand the dissolution and closure of these bureaus ... show the whole world that any country that doesn’t like the Americans can become the next ...

          Do you seriously believe that it is possible to expose and show? Yes, it’s better to end up with this professional sport of units and the IOC and invest all means for the development of mass sports in the country, while the population has not yet died from an unhealthy lifestyle. I have a lyceum under the windows. All physical education is a torn volleyball net and students walk along the still broken-up Soviet stadium. And we spend billions on long-legged kokorin.
          1. atalef
            atalef 24 July 2016 10: 22
            -3
            Quote: larand
            Do you seriously believe that it is possible to expose and show?

            Are you sure that they can do this? to prove.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 10: 36
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              Are you sure that they can do this? to prove.

              Like WADA, the results were replaced in the secret laboratory of the FSB, because you yourself understand that there is no evidence laughing
              1. atalef
                atalef 24 July 2016 10: 50
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Like WADA, the results were replaced in the secret laboratory of the FSB, because you yourself understand that there is no evidence

                Hi Sanya, there is - the DNA does not match, there are traces of an autopsy, the samples are declared as clean, in fact with doping. Read the report.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 11: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  yes - DNA does not match

                  I’m healthy. Well, at least you yourself understand that this is generally from the realm of science fiction. By the way, these athletes offered to take repeated tests from them, WADA refused.
                  Quote: atalef
                  . Read the report.

                  Yes, I saw the report, wrote to you above. I even listened to it.
                  By the way, if you believe WADA like that. Tell me, how many doping samples since 2008 were taken from Ukraine and the USA, for example, how many of them were positive?
                  And how much they took from Russia.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 24 July 2016 11: 16
                    -2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    I’m healthy. Well, at least you yourself understand, it's generally from the realm of fiction

                    In the field of fiction - apple trees on the moon - here are the absolute conclusions of the examination with the names of the athletes
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    By the way, these athletes offered to take repeated tests from them, WADA refused.

                    in 2-3 years? - credited.
                    Will DNA be changed too?

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    By the way, if you believe WADA like that. Tell me, how many doping samples since 2008 were taken from Ukraine and the USA, for example, how many of them were positive?

                    and the Americans were disqualified from the medal, and the national team of Romania and Bulgaria was suspended (in heavy athletics) and Belarus in rowing.
                    Do not think that only the Russians are hunted.
                    There is only one problem - in Russia this was done at the State level under the auspices of Rossport - the state is therefore punished.
                    Pure athletes may perform under the flag of the Olympics
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 10: 57
              0
              you are not putting the question correctly, you need to put it differently will the proof be accepted in a "high" "court"
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 10: 35
            +1
            Quote: larand
            the population has not yet died of an unhealthy lifestyle.

            Sitting at a computer is definitely not a healthy lifestyle, chopping off the Internet is fucking. So many tankers, pilots and sailors will come out to breathe fresh air.
            Quote: larand
            All physical education is a torn volleyball net and students walk along the still broken-up Soviet stadium.

            We have quite a few school stadiums here, it is a pity that in my time there were none.
        3. evge-malyshev
          evge-malyshev 24 July 2016 09: 43
          +1
          I agree with the above comments, but I also vote for your proposal with both hands

          Quote: maxxdesign
          you need to go further .. to challenge, demand evidence (which is not like in that famous test tube), expose all this gang of pseudo-sports organizations in a lie ... demand the dissolution and closure of these bureaus ... show the whole world that any country that doesn’t like the Americans can become the next ...

          Winning this process is, of course, very difficult. Impossible, unfortunately.
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        5. Caa
          Caa 24 July 2016 10: 20
          +2
          Yeah, dispute something with a sharpie. Great idea.
          Do not drive, do not watch, sponsor goods forget! But on the net everywhere to write that this was not the Olympics, but fake, and the medals are not real.
        6. atalef
          atalef 24 July 2016 10: 20
          -9
          Quote: maxxdesign
          and with such a boycott Russia will show its weakness ... you need to go further .. to challenge, demand evidence (which is not like in that famous test tube), expose all this gang of pseudo-sports organizations in a lie ... demand the dissolution and closure of these bureaus ... show to the whole world that the next may be any country not liked by the Americans ..

          WADA Doping Report in Russia
          https://meduza.io/feature/2016/07/19/doklad-vada-o-dopinge-v-rossii-glavnoe

          there is evidence, thousands of documents, electronic correspondence, the results of repeated tests, the athlete’s DNA does not coincide with the analysis, traces of opening the tubes.
          Everything in the report eats; including names, dates, and facts.
          And the country is being punished because this forgery was organized at the state level, with all these bureaucrats from sports - cutting loot.
          Substituting all athletes (pure) and fans.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 10: 24
            +5
            Quote: atalef
            there is evidence, thousands of documents, electronic correspondence, the results of repeated tests, the athlete’s DNA does not coincide with the analysis, traces of opening the tubes.

            first electronic correspondence is not a document
            the second can be a reference to the source where it is said about DNA mismatch
            Well, let’s leave the third one about the tampering marks, this is ridiculous - a scratch on the inside is porous, so that the integrity of the container itself must be violated, according to the manufacturer
            1. atalef
              atalef 24 July 2016 10: 34
              -4
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              first electronic correspondence is not a document

              Since when ?
              the second can be a reference to the source where it is said about DNA mismatch
              https://meduza.io/feature/2016/07/19/doklad-vada-o-dopinge-v-rossii-glavnoe
              Do you want the original report?
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              Well, let’s leave the third one about the tampering marks, this is ridiculous - a scratch on the inside is porous, so that the integrity of the container itself must be violated, according to the manufacturer

              Well, of course - the results of the examination are not a fact for you.
              Did someone from Rossport try to challenge the results?
              All appeals were only about the admission of pure athletes, no one disputed the report, why?
              1. svp67
                svp67 24 July 2016 10: 40
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                All appeals were only about the admission of pure athletes, no one disputed the report, why?

                Good question. With whom we will turn to Mr. Mutko.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 11: 04
                  +3
                  Quote: svp67
                  Good question.

                  Because, even I understand that this is pointless.
                  During the rally, prankers managed to find out the true attitude of representatives of organizations to the scandal. So, the president of WADA during a confidential conversation with the “Ukrainian minister” admitted that the organization has no evidence that Russian athletes are really guilty of doping.


                  And Traiger, in turn, said that the Russian team, according to their plan, in any case, should not participate in the games in Rio, despite the absence of any direct evidence that would testify against athletes from Russia. The head of the American organization said that the Russian team simply should not be in Rio. “This is politics, my friend,” Tiger explained ....
                  Source: http://politpuzzle.ru/37420-vada-priznalas-ukrainskomu-ministru-chto-u-nih-net-d
                  okazatelstv-upotrebleniya-dopinga-rossijskimi-atletami /
              2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 02
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                Since when ?

                since those
                Quote: atalef
                https://meduza.io...
                But do not give links to speedinf ?! wassat
                Quote: atalef
                Well, of course - the results of the examination are not a fact for you.

                again, you can link to the result of the examination, only please not jellyfish and similar resources
                Quote: atalef
                no one disputed the report, why?

                who told you?!
                or the main thing is to "crow"?

                p / s / henceforth, please, we did not drink at "YOU" brotherhood and we certainly will not
              3. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 11: 04
                +3
                Quote: atalef
                https://meduza.io/feature/2016/07/19/doklad-vada-o-dopinge-v-rossii-glavnoe

                Maclaren decided not to communicate with representatives of the Russian authorities - his experience of participating in a previous investigation showed that this was pointless.
                His experience hahaha, he praised Russia so much from his experience lol
                Sanya, well, where is the evidence? There are a lot of words, but where are the documents?
                1. atalef
                  atalef 24 July 2016 11: 20
                  -3
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Maclaren decided not to communicate with representatives of the Russian authorities - his experience of participating in a previous investigation showed that this was pointless.

                  Do you doubt it?
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Sanya, well, where is the evidence? There are a lot of words, but where are the documents?

                  Sanya give you the original report, or maybe all the same sampling in Medusa is enough.
                  Someone from Rossport dokkad disputed? In what court?
                  Why
              4. Gray brother
                Gray brother 24 July 2016 11: 15
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                https://meduza.io/feature/2016/07/19/doklad-vada-o-dopinge-v-rossii-glavnoe

                Ahhh hahaha, {censored} I can’t, Medusa - he brought Medusa here! Ah ha ha!
                Dear, this is an informational gadyushnik specializing in countering "Russian propaganda", i.e. vparivat own.
                You would have given a link to the Ukrainian Censor.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 24 July 2016 11: 35
                  0
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  Ahhh hahaha, {censored} I can’t, Medusa - he brought Medusa here! Ah ha ha!
                  Dear, this is an informational gadyushnik specializing in countering "Russian propaganda", i.e. vparivat own.
                  You would have given a link to the Ukrainian Censor.

                  Do you want the original in English? you will not find translation accuracy - I apologize
                  1. Gray brother
                    Gray brother 24 July 2016 11: 55
                    +3
                    Quote: atalef
                    Do you want the original in English? you will not find translation accuracy - I apologize

                    I heard all this crap on TV from the head of the commission.
                    Let them show how the tests were changed without opening and explain why they are not going to replace these containers with anything.
                    Let them explain why the foreign representative of WADA, CONSTANTLY present in the laboratory, did not give a voice when "FSB returned the opened containers."
                    And where are the guarantees that WADA, in general, does not falsify the results?
                    Want to suggest me to read the same tales in the English version?
                    I don’t see the point.
            2. Lukich
              Lukich 24 July 2016 11: 24
              +1
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              the second can be a reference to the source where it is said about DNA mismatch

              our athletes offered to take a repeat DNA test. refused.
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              a scratch on the inside of the pori that the integrity of the container itself should be compromised, according to the manufacturer

              Well, who and when caused this scratch? solid juggling
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 47
                +1
                just investigators of the holy inquisition, oh, sorry WADA probably used this guide to action
                1. Simpsonian
                  Simpsonian 24 July 2016 12: 00
                  0
                  Quite the opposite ... by the way, a smart book, against any "mogherini" request
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          2. svp67
            svp67 24 July 2016 10: 25
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Everything in the report eats; including names, dates, and facts.

            You know, I listened to this report on the air, but did not hear this heap of evidence. ONE surname of the deputy minister was named and it was said that this commission conducted an experiment that proved the possibility of substitution. Honestly, it’s not enough to blame the whole country. And most of all, I was touched by the "irrefutable evidence" of the FSB's work.
            But I’m wondering why this commission wasn’t interested in the fact that Rodchenkov’s sister was under investigation for the distribution of illegal substances, read doping, among athletes and there is evidence that she promised a “cover” from her brother when selling them.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 24 July 2016 10: 41
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              Rodchenkova’s sister was under investigation

              The Russian investigation means wrong and unfair, these are all the machinations of the FSB and Putin's red-headed redhead.
              1. atalef
                atalef 24 July 2016 10: 52
                -2
                Quote: Gray Brother
                The Russian investigation means wrong and unfair, these are all the machinations of the FSB and Putin's red-headed redhead.

                Is there a consequence and conclusions? Can I get acquainted? WADA WADA report findings challenged? in which court?
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 24 July 2016 11: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Is there a consequence and conclusions? Can I get acquainted? WADA WADA report findings challenged? in which court?

                  Three-time world running champion Marina Rodchenkova, sister of Grigory Rodchenkov, director of the Moscow Anti-Doping Laboratory, was found guilty under the article "Illegal trafficking in potent or poisonous substances for marketing purposes."
                  For the first time in Russia, a large-scale anti-doping case was brought to court with a real term of imprisonment. At the disposal of "Moscow News" were the materials of the criminal case and the verdict in the case of Marina Rodchenkova, three-time world champion in running. She was found guilty under the article "Illegal circulation of potent or poisonous substances for the purpose of marketing." The brother of the convict is Grigory Rodchenkov, one of the main officials in Russia responsible for anti-doping

                  The court of first instance sentenced Marina Rodchenkova to one and a half years in prison under Art. 234 Part 3 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Illegal Trafficking of Potent or Poisonous Substances for Sale", but after the appeal, the term was replaced with a suspended sentence.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 24 July 2016 11: 21
                    -1
                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    The court of first instance sentenced Marina Rodchenkova to one and a half years in prison under Art. 234 Part 3 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Illegal Trafficking of Potent or Poisonous Substances for Sale", but after the appeal, the term was replaced with a suspended sentence.

                    and?
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 24 July 2016 11: 29
                      +3
                      Quote: atalef
                      and?

                      What "and?" - a family row for them, Rodchenko destroyed 1500 samples before escaping from Russia, and now he tells tales about the FSB knowing that no one can verify his words now.
                      For good, they are obliged to imprison him in the West because the matter is international, he by his actions caused damage to the wada and he himself admitted this.
                      Type of his FSB forced - og.
                    2. atalef
                      atalef 24 July 2016 11: 39
                      -2
                      Quote: Gray Brother
                      What "and?" - a family row for them, Rodchenko destroyed 1500 samples before escaping from Russia, and now he tells tales about the FSB knowing that no one can verify his words now.

                      Read the report, if that were the only evidence
                      Quote: Gray Brother
                      For good, they are obliged to imprison him in the west because the matter is international, he by his actions caused damage to the wada and he himself admitted it

                      Do you know what a witness is?
                      Oh then.
                      Quote: Gray Brother
                      Type of his FSB forced - og.

                      But this does not happen?
                    3. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 24 July 2016 12: 04
                      +2
                      Quote: atalef
                      But this does not happen?

                      Anything can happen. But to be sure you need to have evidence, not unfounded accusations.
                      Do you know what a witness is?
                      Oh then.

                      The same body as everyone else, this principle also applies to him.
                      Read the report, if that were the only evidence

                      Trumped-up evidence - we are talking about state participation in the first place.
            2. Lukich
              Lukich 24 July 2016 11: 29
              0
              Quote: atalef
              WADA WADA report findings challenged? in which court?

              in Lausanne
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 32
                0
                Quote: Lukich
                in Lausanne

                when?
                1. Lukich
                  Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 15
                  -1
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  when?

                  a few days ago.
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 12: 48
                  0
                  bliiiin
                  firstly not in Lausanne, but in Geneva
                  and secondly, at that meeting even the issue of WADA conclusions and report was not considered, the lawsuit of the NOC of the Russian Federation and the athletes of the Russian Federation against the IAAF was considered
                  with all due respect, you in some comments show such ignorance of the topic that mother do not grieve
                3. Lukich
                  Lukich 24 July 2016 16: 07
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  with all due respect, you in some comments show such ignorance of the topic that mother do not grieve

                  I see such knowledge of the topic, hair on end. alternative games. laugh. Well, firstly, they should be at least international. and this requires the participation of foreign athletes. they can come only with the permission of the respective federations. otherwise lifelong disqualification. will they be allowed? then games will not be international. further, on competence, and you are aware that these games must recognize the appropriate federation? do they recognize? Your dream is high results. who will give them if the strongest stay at home? Well, a phrase ingenious in terms of competence, no matter how much it arrives, the main result. who will give it ?. about competency. How much will these games cost? will they pay off? are we so rich I understand a competent opinion about patriotism. but do not confuse patriotism with idiotizmom. there is much to say, but I understand, it is USELESS. if a person does not know what principles sporting events are based on, it is impossible to tell in a nutshell. Well, a simple example, try to hold any competitions in your yard and try to give them urban status. at best, the winner will be the champion of the court, but not the city. it’s good that someone from the neighboring yard who comes by chance.
                4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 16: 42
                  0
                  Quote: Lukich
                  hair on end. alternative games. laugh

                  Are you talking about the court in Lausanne that was considering the WADA report, or that only athletes from the social camp participated in the IFES in 86? !! laughing
                5. Lukich
                  Lukich 24 July 2016 19: 37
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Are you talking about the court in Lausanne that was considering the WADA report, or that only athletes from the social camp participated in the IFES in 86? !!

                  I'm talking about the arbitration court in Lausanne. teams of social countries participated in the IFES. I repeat, COMPLETE commands. all other loners in separate species.
                6. Lukich
                  Lukich 24 July 2016 19: 39
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Quote: Lukich
                  hair on end. alternative games. laugh

                  Are you talking about the court in Lausanne that was considering the WADA report, or that only athletes from the social camp participated in the IFES in 86? !! laughing

                  Well, in essence, the above about the conduct of unclear what kind of games are there, what can I say? but I thought that I was dealing with an expert.
  • atalef
    atalef 24 July 2016 10: 42
    -2
    Quote: svp67
    You know, I listened to this report live, but did not hear this heap of evidence. ONE surname of the deputy minister was named and said that this commission conducted an experiment that proved the possibility of substitution.

    looked at the Russian media?
    And you read, strange in the report everything is there, and names and dates, etc.
    Maybe the media show only what is convenient?
    There is an official report published - 100 pages.
    Quote: svp67
    Honestly, it’s not enough to blame the whole country. And most of all, I was touched by the "irrefutable evidence" of the FSB's work.

    few ? if it was organized at the state level, who else to blame?
    Quote: svp67
    But I’m wondering why this commission wasn’t interested in the fact that Rodchenkov’s sister was under investigation for the distribution of illegal substances, read doping, among athletes and there is evidence that she promised a “cover” from her brother when selling them.

    what this has to do with the fact, there are not only Rodchenkov’s testimonies and all of them are confirmed both by examination and the coincidence of time and actions taken
    1. svp67
      svp67 24 July 2016 11: 06
      +4
      Quote: atalef
      what this has to do with the fact, there are not only Rodchenkov’s testimonies and all of them are confirmed both by examination and the coincidence of time and actions taken

      Like these
      Upon entering the laboratory, Grigory Rodchenkov signed a document on cooperation with the FSB - he was given the code name Kuts. He was supposed to report to his curator from the special services, reports then came to a more senior FSB officer. The most frequent employee in the laboratory was Evgeny Blokhin.

      The FSB participated in the substitution of samples in Sochi. Blokhin got into the laboratory under the guise of a plumber - he officially worked for the Bilfinger company that serves the building. The commission has testimony of eyewitnesses who said that they saw Blokhin in the laboratory in the evenings when other employees left. Rodchenkov also showed his photograph taken in the laboratory. In addition, according to Rodchenkov, he met with senior FSB officers before and during the Games, where the use of doping was discussed.

      I am simply delighted with such evidence, only "words" and a photograph. I would love to see her. What's on it? As the drain is cleaned, the tap is changed or the samples are opened. What does this photo prove? Is there a photo of this man in FSB uniform? And if it comes to that, then in the magazine of the service company "Bilfinger" there should be marks for what he was sent there and WHO called him there. So, the commission still has a field of activity - it would be necessary to check "Bilfinger", the same international company works all over the world, and it even has plumbers - FSB officers, who then is in the department?
      1. atalef
        atalef 24 July 2016 11: 25
        -2
        Quote: svp67
        I am simply delighted with such evidence, only "words" and a photograph. I would love to see her. What's on it? And if it comes to that, then in the magazine of the service company "Bilfinger" there should be marks for what he was sent there and WHO called him. So, the commission still has a field of activity - it would be necessary to check "Bilfinger", this same international company works all over the world, and it even has plumbers - FSB officers, who then sits in the department?

        Of course, I understand that introducing an FSB officer as a plumber into a company serving the WADA building is absolutely not a real task.
        1. svp67
          svp67 24 July 2016 11: 28
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          Of course, I understand that introducing an FSB officer as a plumber into a company serving the WADA building is absolutely not a real task.

          All this recalls the first months after the destruction of the aircraft over the Donbass. And then they said that the USA has both photographs and irrefutable evidence. Already more than two years have passed and WHERE ARE THEY?
          And at the expense of implementation - so easy. With the same ease as recruiting Rodchenkov, during his stay in the United States and at the time of the purchase of prohibited substances.
          1. atalef
            atalef 24 July 2016 11: 44
            0
            Quote: svp67
            All this recalls the first months after the destruction of the aircraft over the Donbass. And then they said that the USA has both photographs and irrefutable evidence. Already more than two years have passed and WHERE ARE THEY?

            And where is that technician (State witness of the TFR) - the plane shot down the SU, as the MO and TFR claimed.
            The investigation is ongoing and no one yet knows if the photo was given or not.
            Quote: svp67
            at the expense of implementation - so easy. With the same ease as recruiting Rodchenkov, during his stay in the United States and at the time of the purchase of prohibited substances.

            I don’t understand, if the report was based solely on the words of Radchenko, I would agree with you, but his words are a base confirmed by documents, examinations and other informants.
          2. svp67
            svp67 24 July 2016 11: 59
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            And where is that technician (State witness of the TFR)

            It is under the witness protection program.
            Quote: atalef
            the plane shot down SU, as MO and TFR claimed.
            Assumed as one of the versions. By the way, the witness only showed:
            - that day there was a group departure of APU aircraft - three Su25 attack aircraft from their airfield.
            - one of the aircraft, namely the Su25 attack plane of pilot Voloshin was equipped with air-to-air missiles, and the other two were not
            - There were no missiles on the plane upon returning to the base.
            - the pilot said that someone’s plane was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
            And all other conjectures, while we leave on the advice of people pronouncing them
            Quote: atalef
            if the report was based solely on the words of Radchenko, I would agree with you, but his words are a base confirmed by documents, examinations and other informants.

            No, the report is based precisely on the words of Rodchenko, and so I also understand Yulia Stepanova, who has already received her 30th silver coins. And this is not a court, but a court, when when they accuse, but do not give a word to say in defense.
            And on the account of Sochi, the international commission worked there, and not ours. And what about the fact that our athletes before and after that participated in other competitions, there they were again checked by other people's anti-doping commissions. There are facts of the massive use of doping.
            And last, but WHERE WHERE IS THE UNFINCUTABLE EVIDENCE of the presence of WMD in Saddam Hussein, where the UNFINCUTABLE EVIDENCE and PHOTO evidence of the destruction of the aircraft by the militias, I remember then based on their sanctions.
            You do not believe Mutko and K, I, too, here I agree with you. But I also absolutely do not believe in the West, the bias of actions is too clearly visible.
          3. atalef
            atalef 24 July 2016 12: 22
            0
            Quote: svp67
            It is under the witness protection program.

            Why protect someone whose version has long been of no interest to anyone?
            Quote: svp67
            Assumed as one of the versions. By the way, the witness only showed:

            no, it was the only one for a long time, until the diamond Antei (unexpectedly) 3 days before the report of the (primary) Dutch suddenly came out with his conclusions (strangely coinciding with the Dutch)
            and, oops, they don’t remember about SU anymore
            Quote: svp67
            No, the report is based precisely on the words of Rodchenko, and so I also understand Yulia Stepanova, who has already received her 30th silver coins.

            t / e You do not even admit that she (and he) told the truth?
            Quote: svp67
            And on the account of Sochi, the international commission worked there, and not ours.

            read the report, everything is said about Sochi too

            Quote: svp67
            And last, but WHERE WHERE IS THE UNFINCUTABLE EVIDENCE of the presence of WMD in Saddam Hussein, where the UNFINCUTABLE EVIDENCE and PHOTO evidence of the destruction of the aircraft by the militias, I remember then based on their sanctions.

            and what does it have to do with it?
            that is, if they lied to the saddam - they won’t say anything at all - is it all a lie?
          4. svp67
            svp67 24 July 2016 17: 32
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Why protect someone whose version has long been of no interest to anyone?

            You are wrong here. Ukraine still denies the fact of sorties on that day. And according to ANOTHER VERSION, according to which the RANDOM launch of the Ukrainian PU was made, this fact is of great importance.
            Quote: atalef
            and, oops, they don’t remember about SU anymore

            All in good time.
            Quote: atalef
            t / e You do not even admit that she (and he) told the truth?

            How to put it softer. When you are forced to do something illegal and you oppose it, you are a HERO. But when you yourself are doing illegal things and you start throwing mud at everyone, it's not for nothing that she's afraid to meet with her teammates, they just promised to fill or scratch her face, what kind of hero are you? What she told ARD did not receive official confirmation, all WORDS.
            And on the account of Radchenkov, I had the opinion that for the time being, a little man simply made his gesheft from the sale of prohibited doping to athletes, and most importantly from hiding the fact of his discovery. At some point, he was caught, most likely by the FBI and he began to work for the Americans. The time will come and everything will become apparent. We will not wait much.
            Quote: atalef
            read the report, everything is said about Sochi too

            I read and laughed to tears as WADA poses as IDIOTS. Samples were replaced under their nose and NO ONE SAW ANYTHING. Is that all deaf and blind?
            By the way, the company producing special containers for samples said it did not agree with the conclusions of the commission on the possibility of replacing the tests.
            Quote: atalef
            and what does it have to do with it?
            that is, if they lied to the saddam - they won’t say anything at all - is it all a lie?

            You know, we have such a saying: "He who lied once, has no faith." The United States has already lied more than once, what kind of faith is there. And the fact that WADA is under the full control of the United States is no longer a secret.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 23
    0
    Quote: atalef
    And you read, strange in the report everything is there, and names and dates, etc.

    read yourself ?!
    maybe you can even give a percentage, the report is 100% "water" and the basis is the ARD film, the rest is possible, presumably the KGB is watching us everywhere "one laboratory employee presented information to the NK investigators POSSIBLE listening with the help of special equipment phones in the laboratory "is simply a masterpiece

    about such a concept in the report as a confidential witness (the name is taken from the report, clauses 13.6.3 and 13.6.4) to speak or skip ?!
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 11: 34
      +2
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      what’s the basis of the ARD movie,

      the filmmakers themselves said that they also have no evidence. it was not an investigation
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 42
        0
        nuuu WADA is the Inquisition they do not need evidence
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 17
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          nuuu WADA is the Inquisition they do not need evidence

          they have in the states to analysis and close close
      2. svp67
        svp67 24 July 2016 12: 00
        +3
        Quote: Lukich
        The filmmakers said that they also have no evidence. it was not an investigation

        Moreover, in court, that is, OFFICIALLY. But to whom it is now interesting.
  • Gray brother
    Gray brother 24 July 2016 10: 32
    +5
    Quote: atalef
    there is evidence, thousands of documents, electronic correspondence, the results of repeated tests, the athlete’s DNA does not coincide with the analysis, traces of opening the tubes.
    Everything in the report eats; including names, dates, and facts.

    And where is all this? I watched the live broadcast in which the statement was made, on this report - there was some horseradish (forgot his name) who spoke for a long time and a lot that they had "a lot of data", but did not say the most important phrase:
    "We have irrefutable evidence and we are ready to present it."
    I do not argue that there are violations - all over the world they eat doping, but there is no evidence that these violations occur at the state level (for which Russia is "punished").
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 10: 40
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    thousands of documents

    Where did they come from?
    Quote: atalef
    , electronic correspondence,

    Sanya, give me a read
    Quote: atalef
    retest results

    Have they been carried out?
    Quote: atalef
    not match the athlete’s DNA with the analysis,

    Yes, it would have been noticed back in 2008.
    Quote: atalef
    traces of opening test tubes.

    The manufacturer said that this can not be. Who to believe?
    Quote: atalef
    And the country is being punished because this forgery was organized at the state level

    Sanya, you are a happy person, you believe in the existence of justice in the world.
    1. atalef
      atalef 24 July 2016 11: 05
      -1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Where did they come from?

      Radchenko and a couple of informants + results of checks and examinations
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Sanya, give me a read

      I certainly do not, but somehow no one said that something was wrong and not theirs. Putin removed these people from work at Rossport.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Have they been carried out?

      of course, and this is in the report
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Yes, it would have been noticed back in 2008.

      no, and this is also described and why. No DNA test was carried out because no one just could not believe that the changes are carried out at such a level. RosVADA was certified and enjoyed full confidence
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The manufacturer said that this can not be. Who to believe?

      expertise.
      At us Siemens current transformers began to burn. the manufacturer also said that it couldn’t be, but 6 already burned out and somehow I believe that after the commission’s work - Siemens will say - OH
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Sanya, you are a happy person, you believe in the existence of justice in the world.

      I do not believe /
      Therefore, it’s muddy and Co. I don’t believe that sport is politically politicized in Russia and victory or loss - this is regarded in Russia almost as a victory or loss in the war.
      I don’t even touch grandmother here.
      And these are billions.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 09: 00
    +7
    Quote: Delink
    , and turn off the channels broadcasting the Olympics.
    Accredited journalists should not be sent to the Olympics.
    On the Internet, block all sites relaying the Olympics.

    What is the point of this, who will watch the performance if there aren’t ours? Borovoi and Gozman, these kaif will be caught, and normal people will not watch it.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 24 July 2016 09: 23
      +8
      I think if we are nevertheless removed from the Olympics (and I still doubt it), then we need to take the reciprocal step: recognize New Russia or include it after the vote in Russia. Let the Americans strangle themselves - after all, it was from their promise that a dope mess ensued.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 10: 15
        0
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        ), then you need to take a reciprocal step: recognize New Russia or include it after voting in Russia.

        This is not enough, you need something else.
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 24 July 2016 10: 25
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is not enough, you need something else.

          bomb? laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 10: 41
            +1
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            bomb?

            In the Oval Office of the White House?
            1. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 24 July 2016 11: 00
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              In the Oval Office of the White House?

              fl. least wassat
              1. Lukich
                Lukich 24 July 2016 11: 39
                +1
                Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                fl. least

                Well, in Congress, of course
                1. PHANTOM-AS
                  PHANTOM-AS 24 July 2016 11: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: Lukich
                  Well, in Congress, of course

                  iiiiiiii - iiiiii, kaaaaaaaak BAKHNEM !!!! wassat
        2. svp67
          svp67 24 July 2016 10: 26
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is not enough, you need something else.

          Recognize Texas independence ... Let them choke.
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet 4 August 2016 07: 06
    0
    Quote: Delink
    Do not watch, but turn off the channels broadcasting the Olympics.
    Accredited journalists should not be sent to the Olympics.
    On the Internet, block all sites relaying the Olympics.

    Lower the Iron Curtain! laughing
  • Prokop
    Prokop 24 July 2016 08: 53
    +13
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    I suggest that those who are going to go to the Olympics return tickets. I also propose to boycott the Olympics and not watch the broadcast.

    And who am I to root for, looking at the Olympics, which our team was not allowed to take ?? Where is the point of watching this broadcast? In addition, it is necessary to demand a refund, because Russia financed this IOC and all sorts of federations with quite large amounts of money, and at the same time blocked all our companies from being able to sponsor them. Because these nits are shaking most of the money.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 08: 55
      +1
      Quote: Prokop
      Where is the point of watching this broadcast?

      but I watched the European Football Championship after our team took off
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 09: 02
        +4
        Quote: Lukich

        but I watched the European Football Championship after our team took off

        Well, to begin with, we just watched good football. Yes, we were rooting for our team, but at the same time, we all understood how it would end in the end. Of course, no one expected such a shame, but still, no one was counting on the championship.
        Football is football hi
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 09: 51
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well, to begin with, we just watched good football.

          and the Olympics are not a sight? many good sports and many great athletes
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Football is football

          so at the Olympics, too, football will be
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 10: 18
            0
            Quote: Lukich

            and the Olympics are not a sight? many good sports and many great athletes

            What kind of sport is it in the summer Olympiad, for which the whole country will cheer like it is for football.
            Quote: Lukich
            so at the Olympics, too, football will be

            Who's playing?
            1. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 24 July 2016 10: 36
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              What kind of sport is it in the summer Olympiad, for which the whole country will cheer like it is for football.

              lithobol
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Who's playing?

              The soccer tournament at the 2016 Summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro starts earlier than other sports, even before the official opening ceremony. It will be held from August 3 to 20. Two sets of medals will be played among 16 men's national teams and 12 women's. Matches will be held not only in Rio de Janeiro, but also in five other cities in Brazil.

              For one team, 18 athletes can be declared, and in the male part of the tournament there are age restrictions: only three football players of a team can be older than 23 years, that is, be born before January 1, 1993. There are no such restrictions among women.

              Period: August 3–20, 2016
              Sets of awards: 2 (men - 1, women - 1)
              Teams: 28 (16 male and 12 female)
              Athletes: 504 (288 men and 216 women)
              Stadiums: Maracana (Rio de Janeiro, capacity: 90000), João Avelange Olympic Stadium (Rio de Janeiro, 60000), Brazilian Mane Garrinchi National Stadium (Brasilia, 76000), Fonte Nova Arena (Salvador, 60000) , Mineyran (Belo Horizonte, 74000), Corinthians Arena (São Paulo, 48000)

              Men

              The men's tournament will be attended by 16 teams, which will be divided into four groups of four teams. The combined teams that took first and second places in their groups will make up the quarterfinal pairs.
              check out:
              http://www.olympic-champions.ru/olympic/rio-2016/sports/football/
              Kokorin’s not there! laughing
            2. Lukich
              Lukich 24 July 2016 11: 45
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              What kind of sport is it in the summer Olympiad, for which the whole country will cheer like it is for football.

              all? even on this site, not all football fans. Well, there are plenty of other types of fans. on football, the country is not cyclical. but the fact that the female half of the country loves gymnastics, synchronized swimming, but not all football, is this not considered?
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Who's playing?

              and this is the answer to the phrase
              Football is football hi
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 52
                0
                Quote: Lukich
                the female half of the country loves gymnastics

                I’m happy to see sports and art, athletics, water sports
                1. Lukich
                  Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 27
                  0
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  I’m happy to see sports and art, athletics, water sports

                  boxing, weightlifting, beach soccer and volleyball. basketball and volleyball, handball (I mean men and women). but you never know ... of course not with passion, but with interest. This is how I watch the Russian football championship now. I'm not sick for anyone. I just choose someone for this match, it seems like I "cheer" for this team smile and before there was an ardent sick Dynamo Kiev smile I could watch football without sound. I recognized all, well, or almost all, Major League players by the manner of the game. and what disputes at work flared up which team is better ... laughing but it didn’t reach fights smile ehhhhhhh, there was a time ... smile
        2. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 24 July 2016 10: 28
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Of course, no one expected such a shame, but still, no one was counting on the championship.
          Football is football

          Wooden football?
          This football we do not need!)))


          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 10: 44
            0
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            This football we do not need!)))

            Excuse me, but that there were only two people in the Russian national football team? The rest are saints, or something.
            The coach scored hell knows who the team is, but those who really score are not invited.
            1. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 24 July 2016 10: 58
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The coach scored hell knows who the team is, but those who really score are not invited.

              Everything was wooden there, the ball was rolled across, if it weren’t for Akinfey, there would be another counter!
              It would be easier to exhibit a team of veterans with Mostov, Titov, Tikhonov and Alenichivny, and not these pieces of wood with cavadrat heads.
              That's what I will definitely be boycotting, so this is the football championship of the Russian Federation!
              ole-le-le-le
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 09: 15
        0
        Quote: Lukich
        after our team took off

        and you don’t see the difference?
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 09: 53
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          and you don’t see the difference?

          Of course not. if the broadcast is paid for, my "couch protest" will not prove anything to anyone.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 09: 55
            0
            I'm not talking about that
          2. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 24 July 2016 10: 46
            0
            Quote: Lukich
            Of course not. if the broadcast is paid for, my "couch protest" will not prove anything to anyone.

            Why protest if someone has gluttonized the pills, and why not look at the beauty of sports without pills?
            And the main question is that NOBODY from the Olympic Committee, the Ministry of Sports, responsible leaders did not resign or were dismissed from the post for this shame?
            They are accustomed to eating black caviar in the "Russian houses" on OI and not eating fired vodka, living in presidential rooms at state expense, and here about..., embarrassment and right in his pants, and stink of diarrhea all over the world.
            It’s a pity those guys who did not use stimulants will not get into the Olympics because of bureaucrats.
            But, as famously in the Sochi, the Korean was getting medals for us.
            I will be rooting for our Paralympic people - this is PEOPLE !!!
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 33
              0
              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              I will be rooting for our Paralympic people - this is PEOPLE !!!

              and who told you that they will be allowed?
              1. PHANTOM-AS
                PHANTOM-AS 24 July 2016 11: 58
                0
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                and who told you that they will be allowed?

                Quote: Lukich
                they also ran into

                And you, comrades, where does infa come from?
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 12: 02
                  +2
                  The International Paralympic Committee (IPC) has opened a disciplinary case against the Russian Paralympic Committee (RCC), which may result in excommunication of Russian athletes from participation in the 2016 Paralympic Games. The IPC noted that they have data that the results of doping tests of at least 35 Russian Paralympic athletes could be rigged. The decision on the fate of the Russian Paralympic team will be made public during the first week of August, reports IA UlanMedia with reference to the federal publication.
                2. Lukich
                  Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 29
                  0
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  and who told you that they will be allowed?

                  Quote: Lukich
                  they also ran into

                  And you, comrades, where does infa come from?

                  from news reports on TV
                  1. PHANTOM-AS
                    PHANTOM-AS 24 July 2016 13: 28
                    0
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    the result of which may be the excommunication of Russian athletes from participation in the 2016 Paralympic Games. The IPC noted that they have data that the results of doping tests of at least 35 Russian Paralympics could be rigged

                    Quote: Lukich
                    from news reports on TV

                    Mdyayaya, although I do not really trust the domestic media, but if this happens, the email will be mm ... mmmm am PORN am (sorry I can’t say sincerely!)
                  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 13: 33
                    +1
                    direct link to IPC
                    https://www.paralympic.org/news/ipc-opens-suspension-proceedings-against-npc-rus
                    is
          3. Lukich
            Lukich 24 July 2016 11: 48
            +1
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            I will be rooting for our Paralympic people - this is PEOPLE !!!

            they also ran into
    2. Caa
      Caa 24 July 2016 10: 23
      0
      The national team was not thrown away like garbage. They themselves lost, and this is completely different.
  • Lukich
    Lukich 24 July 2016 08: 53
    +2
    Quote: Sith Lord
    I also propose to boycott the Olympics and not watch the broadcast.

    since the broadcast rights have already been bought out. look, don’t look, you can’t do any worse for them. they have already received their money
    1. dima-fesko
      dima-fesko 24 July 2016 09: 48
      +1
      The rights have been redeemed, but there is no broadcast yet. The contracts must be terminated. The "muddy Olympians" and their "brothers" will lose on advertising and the like. as much as the budget of one small European country!
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 24 July 2016 10: 04
        0
        Quote: dima-fesko
        It is necessary to terminate the contracts.

        and ruin our television channel with fines. impose sanctions on ourselves? and why do you think that only on this site are patriots. conduct a survey, and you will realize that most regrets, but will watch.
    2. Caa
      Caa 24 July 2016 10: 26
      0
      And also tours to Turkey are available, their goods, too, many still in the old fashion are in warehouses and shops. Of course, you won’t do anything worse - live a full life!
      It’s not about money, but what’s disgusting, "It’s insulting for the State." (C)
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 24 July 2016 11: 54
        0
        Quote: caa
        And also tours to Turkey are available, their goods, too, many still in the old fashion are in warehouses and shops.

        do not buy, this is a protest.
        Quote: caa
        It’s not about money, but what’s disgusting, "It’s insulting for the State." (C)

        and what? financially punishing them is a protest, but what they paid for but did not buy (in this case, watch), is it a protest? who will know about this "couch protest"? it reminds me, in spite of my mother, I'll frostbite. all the same, in their media they will sing that "Russians in spite of bloody Putin watched the Olympics in secret"
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 09: 08
    0
    if our e will be then I will definitely not watch
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 10: 05
      -1
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      if our e will be then I will definitely not watch

      the organizers are very upset. and what do you prove to this and to whom?
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 10: 08
        +1
        Quote: Lukich
        and what do you prove to this and to whom?

        firstly why are you poking
        secondly, I don’t prove anything to anyone, I wanted to look at OUR athletes if they don’t exist and then I won’t look the same, it’s just my position
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 11: 56
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          it's just my position

          understandably. what about the opening and closing ceremonies?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 58
            0
            Quote: Lukich
            understandably. what about the opening and closing ceremonies?

            most likely I will not watch
            1. Lukich
              Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 33
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              most likely I will not watch

              well, it wasn’t there at other Olympiads except our passage. Yes, and no one needs rooting
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 12: 50
                0
                what was not ?!
                I enjoy gymnastics
  • CALL.
    CALL. 24 July 2016 09: 13
    +2
    The Sunday edition of the Daily Mail - The Mail on Sunday - came out with a publication stating that the International Olympic Committee had decided to remove the entire Russian team from the Rio de Janeiro Olympics.

    He began to hate these double moral freaks even more.
    1. atalef
      atalef 24 July 2016 10: 28
      -2
      Quote: Z.O.V.
      The Sunday edition of the Daily Mail - The Mail on Sunday - came out with a publication stating that the International Olympic Committee had decided to remove the entire Russian team from the Rio de Janeiro Olympics.

      He began to hate these double moral freaks even more.

      What about bureaucrats from sports? You don’t think that everything they say about doping is just lying?
      The WADA report contains facts, schemes, analysis results, electronic correspondence of specific people on specific dates.
      Something I did not see these specific people running to court and proving their innocence, and Mutko somehow does not mention these names, why?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 10: 45
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Something I did not see these specific people running to court and proving their innocence

        And what court should I go to?
        1. atalef
          atalef 24 July 2016 11: 26
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: atalef
          Something I did not see these specific people running to court and proving their innocence

          And what court should I go to?

          Appeal, in Geneva.
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 35
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Appeal, in Geneva.

            and the court in Lausanne has already shown what kind of "justice" they have. and it will be possible to wait for the Geneva court for years. will blur ...
  • Sergey39
    Sergey39 24 July 2016 09: 31
    0
    They organized the Silk Road instead of Paris-Dakkar. We must organize our own Olympics with our anti-doping organizations.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 10: 07
      -2
      Quote: Sergey39
      It is necessary to organize your own olympiad with your anti-doping organizations

      Well, who will go to her? think again
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 10: 13
        0
        Quote: Lukich
        Well, who will go to her?

        who let the thread go in the first games, only 14 countries participated and there were fewer departures than the entire Russian team
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 39
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          who let the thread go

          the international sport federation will prohibit by order of sash and all. already proven that they will do so.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 12: 59
            0
            Quote: Lukich
            sport federation prohibits by order of sash and all

            a difficult issue is one thing to dismiss, albeit on a far-fetched pretext, another thing, to frankly state that the matter is not in doping, but in state equipment
            1. Lukich
              Lukich 24 July 2016 16: 18
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              dismiss one thing, albeit on a far-fetched pretext

              ha not necessary. competitions are not included in the list of competitions authorized by the respective federation. she does not have international status
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 16: 42
                0
                read what you wrote again and translate the rest
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 11: 34
        0
        By the way, if the results at such competitions are international, then they will go unless of course the IOC does not put a ban, then the collapse will begin, but at the same time it will be ridiculous to look at the champion according to the IOC who will have a lower result than the version of the Russian championships
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 19: 47
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          By the way, if the results at such competitions are international, then they will go

          the second time I ask who will give the result if NO ONE WILL GO THERE ?????? Nobody will set world records for cookies !!!!!! there are no such games in nature !!!!! nobody will allow them, which means they will be illegal
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 July 2016 10: 15
      +2
      Quote: Sergey39
      It is necessary to organize your own olympiad with your anti-doping organizations

      It was already ... called Goodwill Games... it would be nice to renew them.
      Regarding the possible removal of our team from the Olympics in full force ... I believe it would be logical at the Black Sea Fleet in the 18th year to test such teams as England, France, Germany ... that is, teams from those countries supported the decision to remove our team.
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 43
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        .I think it would be logical at the Black Sea Fleet in the 18th year to test such teams as England, France, Germany ... that is, the teams of those countries that supported the decision to remove our team.

        to check will be those who killed us. nobody will give us the right to take samples on our own
  • svp67
    svp67 24 July 2016 08: 24
    +24
    Quote: engineering
    And after that they want to come to an agreement with us?

    "Agree"? Forgive me, but lately I have not noticed this in their actions. Their whole "agreement" lies in the thesis that Russia should do what it is told to do. And this way of posing the question does not suit me.
    1. engineering
      engineering 24 July 2016 08: 49
      +2
      Maybe I didn’t put it right, but what then should be called productive negotiations on the Iranian nuclear program, negotiations on Syria, on Minsk - 2, etc. How many times did the Lavrov-Kerry and other foreign ministers hold meetings, telephone conversations, Putin-Obama, Merkel, Hollande, if all these meetings and negotiations were not productive, then there would be no further sense of communication. Of course, I would like more results. But at the moment we have what we have.
      1. svp67
        svp67 24 July 2016 08: 58
        +5
        Quote: engineering
        Maybe I didn’t put it right,

        Let's just say: "not exactly"
        Quote: engineering
        but what then should be called productive negotiations on the Iranian nuclear program
        And Russia, by what side to these agreements, we helped conclude them without undertaking any obligations.
        Quote: engineering
        negotiations on Syria,
        And what is the result of these negotiations? Until that moment, until we showed more or less our power, there only sounded: "Assad must leave", now it has calmed down a bit, but let's see how long.
        Quote: engineering
        Minsk - 2
        Here, in general, you can only shout, we signed this agreement as a CONTROLLING side, and now it turns out that only we are required to FOLLOW them.
        Quote: engineering
        How many times did the Lavrov-Kerry and other foreign ministers hold meetings, telephone conversations, Putin-Obama, Merkel, Hollande, if all these meetings and negotiations were not productive, then there would be no further sense of communication

        As I understand it, it’s better to choose to talk from the dilemma of fighting or talking.
        1. SCHWERIN
          SCHWERIN 24 July 2016 10: 37
          0
          Quote: Here, in general, you can only shout, we signed this agreement as a CONTROLLING side, and now it turns out that it is only with us that they are required to FULFILL.

          So why not scream? Going on this endless chatter with Grandma Merkel and Oland? How long to. If we have nothing to do with it?
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 46
            0
            Quote: SCHWERIN
            So why not scream?

            Yes, GDP at every press conference speaks about this. Lavrov has probably erased the language. who hears made Russia extreme, that’s why they shut their ears
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      3. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 24 July 2016 09: 53
        0
        Quote: engineering
        Of course, I would like more results. But at the moment we have what we have.

        Yes, we have nothing. We are pushing water in a mortar, in Syria, in Minsk-2.
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 24 July 2016 08: 25
    +13
    All 387 Russian athletes will be suspended from the Olympics in Rio. The goal of this step is to demonstrate to Moscow that supporting the use of doping by athletes is an attack on world sport.

    This is an attack on Russia, it’s scary to militarily, you can lose your teeth, put a bolt on sanctions, and Russians don’t want to maid and ruin your country, then they hit athletes so that Russia again arranges maidan from the inside, shocks and falls apart, and striped rot .dy will announce that they are exceptional. Only their behavior resembles a flock of small mongrels on a large, self-confident beast, I want to bite, but I’m afraid to get a crack on my head, so that western mongers, headed by a striped hyena, suck you to the fullest.
    You all know the CAS solution. I asked to do and read a selection of statements from the CAS chairman. He stated: "Russian athletics must be destroyed." And so on.

    Well, yes, yes. Russia, as a sovereign state, they need to destroy.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 24 July 2016 09: 24
      +4
      Quote: vovanpain
      This is an attack on Russia, it’s scary to militarily, you can lose your teeth, put a bolt on sanctions, and Russians don’t want to maid and ruin your country, then they hit athletes so that Russia again arranges maidan from the inside, shocks and falls apart, and striped rot .dy will announce that they are exceptional. Only their behavior resembles a flock of small mongrels on a large, self-confident beast, I want to bite, but I’m afraid to get a crack on my head, so that western mongers, headed by a striped hyena, suck you to the fullest.

      They may not climb themselves, but (by the way, about the mongrels) give Poroshenko carte blanche to start an offensive operation in Donbass, and Western propagandons, at this time, will shout that Ukrainians are defending themselves from the evil Putin who takes revenge on the "civilized world" for the Olympics and punishes Ukraine for choosing the "European path of development", and that this is only the first step of Russian aggression, and then Lithuania, Poland and other bald things will be punished.
      And the entire "civilized world", in a single impulse, must unite ... (well, you understand).

      PS:
      The day before it became known that Russian pranksters phoned the President of the American Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) Travis Tygart, who, thinking that he was talking to the Minister of Sports of Ukraine Igor Zhdanov, said that Russia was deliberately "squeezed out" from all competitions, because "this is politics, my friend".

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/sport/20160724/1472724172.html#ixzz4FIx8QEcH

      Vova and Lexus harness as always.
  • Varyag15
    Varyag15 24 July 2016 08: 49
    +7
    add-collapse business with the sponsors of the Olympics. For starters, interest is 50-60. Through dibs, it reaches them faster.
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 24 July 2016 11: 03
      0
      Why 50-60? Afraid of going bankrupt right away? bully
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  • larand
    larand 24 July 2016 09: 28
    +3
    Quote: engineering
    It is unfortunate if this is true, such an unfriendly decision cannot be left unanswered. First of all, to return all the money spent on holding this Olympiad, and Russia was invested quite a lot, well, further on the list, and no fuss ...

    Panting in snot and tears turbidly and bugs will be justified. The special commission of Putin will be sorted out for a long time. So there will be no decisive answers. Decisive answers require decisive people, not Yeltsin’s pets.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 24 July 2016 09: 33
      +3
      Like ours in meldonium, but they don’t eat anything and are clean, well, well laughing laughing laughing
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 24 July 2016 09: 56
        +4
        Quote: Igor39
        Like ours in meldonium, but they don’t eat anything and are clean, well, well

        Really. Let them look at their mutants better.
  • Bekas1967
    Bekas1967 24 July 2016 11: 52
    -3
    Try .... Slogans "throw" a lot of skill and brains are not necessary. All these "chamberlain threats", that with a fly swatter against missiles ... We get what the current government deserves - a thieving, thoroughly corrupt, thinking only about their business They missed appointments to strategic committees, federations, agencies of people, proteges of the Anglo-Saxons ... recently they defended the fight with a fight !!! Those who believe that without Russia the Olympiad will not be a successful implementation of lubo, they are mistaken! for the ost of the world, this is an opportunity to become an OCH! where it didn’t even shine)))) and don’t care what’s not in fair competition! The medal and the title of OCH WILL STAY FOREVER. The situation with sports we have, in short: social. the elevator works only in this area (((((there are practically no opportunities for self-realization for the main part of the people, athletes for the sake of titles are ready for EVERYTHING) and this is not their problem, but the realities of our life ...
  • 78bor1973
    78bor1973 24 July 2016 13: 47
    0
    The fact of the matter is that they do not want to negotiate! They would still happily write that Russia has failed in "tartar-ry"!
  • Altona
    Altona 24 July 2016 17: 33
    0
    All the same, "they were not suspended", but "admission to the Olympics" was stipulated by such a number of conditions that the Russian Olympic team would go as separate "individuals". You still need to have a plan "B" for this kind of event. But the RF is not a powerful USSR. This is garbage, in general, and not an admission. At the next Olympics, they will strangle with such "meldonium".
  • Khariton
    Khariton 24 July 2016 08: 10
    +9
    Don’t put us on our knees anyway ...!
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 24 July 2016 08: 47
      +7
      Yes, they went naaaaaaaaa ........... with their Olympics!
      This is more like a feud!
      Athletes with coaches are humanly sorry ....
      A wise must go into oblivion! Otherwise there will be another spit in the face of the whole people!
  • Teberii
    Teberii 24 July 2016 08: 10
    +13
    We pay for the work of various committees, federations, IOC. It is necessary to demand compensation then they will start talking to a friend.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 08: 14
      +9
      Quote: Teberii
      It is necessary to demand compensation then they will start talking to a friend.

      they won’t speak and there will be no compensation. and through the courts we won’t achieve it. what kind of courts have we seen
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 24 July 2016 08: 26
        +13
        The Mail on Sunday: "The entire national team of Russia will be removed from the Olympics"
        Well, now I hope everyone understands that Russia has nothing to lose! And when ukrovoinstvo during the beginning of the Olympics rushes to the LDNR. I hope no one will take a step forward, will not play with them two steps back? And we will not supply gas to "save" the freezing Kherson region for example ? Or is it necessary to wait for more insult to the state?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 08: 51
          +4
          Quote: Observer2014
          And when ukrovostvo during the beginning of the olympiad breaks down on LDNR. I hope not one step forward, will they no longer play with them two ago?

          Amoebas (Americans) also counted such a move, they dragged a lot of air defense from them to the Donbass.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 24 July 2016 09: 06
            +3
            Until 1952, ours did not participate in the Olympiads. It is necessary to arrange alternative games, in our own country, in the Russian Federation. There will be many who wish. The samples of our athletes for a year and a half are correct! And if you look at Maria Sharapova and the American tennis player (I don’t remember their name) --- you can immediately see who is on the dope!
            It's just that the perpetrators have been appointed in advance, as in the case of the Boeing. They want to oust Russia from everywhere, because Russia is not the USSR, there is no socialist camp.
          2. Observer2014
            Observer2014 24 July 2016 09: 19
            +5
            Alexander Romanov hi
            Amoebas (Americans) also counted such a move, they dragged a lot of air defense from them to the Donbass.
            So for the god of war of artillery in the first day there will be a lot of work
        2. larand
          larand 24 July 2016 17: 00
          0
          Quote: Observer2014
          Well, now I hope everyone understands that Russia has nothing to lose! And when ukrovoinstvo during the beginning of the Olympics rushes to the LDNR. I hope no one will take a step forward, will not play with them two steps back? And we will not supply gas to "save" the freezing Kherson region for example ? Or is it necessary to wait for more insult to the state?


          Everything will be the other way around, there will be no steps forward at all, there will be gas for dill and there will always be new insults and provocations. Unfortunately.
    2. aba
      aba 24 July 2016 08: 23
      +10
      We pay for the work of various committees, federations, IOC. Need to claim compensation

      It is useless to demand, but it’s even very necessary to stop financing the IOC, especially since the IOC is talking about not allowing our team to go to the Winter Games either:

      In addition, the IOC intends to ban Russian athletes from participating in the upcoming 2018 Winter Olympics in South Korea.

      http://www.interfax.ru/sport/520218
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 24 July 2016 08: 26
        -7
        Quote: aba
        but it’s even very necessary to stop financing the IOC,

        which means automatic exit from the IOC. do we need this? because they achieve this, the complete isolation of Russia in all directions
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 09: 11
          +4
          Quote: Lukich
          which means automatic exit from the IOC. do we need this?

          but the point is to stay if all of us are not allowed to play (any), just pay someone else's "dinner" ?!
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 24 July 2016 10: 17
            -1
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            but the point is to stay if all of us are not allowed to play (any), just pay someone else's "dinner" ?!

            paws up? then they will go further. we still have a lot of membership. but yesterday you shouted that Mutko needed to be driven, doing nothing. and today you yourself admit that doing anything against this conspiracy is unrealistic. you decide, give up, or prove your case. the olympiad is not the last and the world has not ended with it. and the exit from the IOC will be immediately driven from other federations. and goodbye sports in Russia. the cabal will remain
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 10: 41
              +1
              Quote: Lukich
              but yesterday you shouted that Mutko needed to be driven, doing nothing

              first, stop poking
              secondly, it really needs to be driven for what does nothing
              Quote: Lukich
              and today you yourself admit that doing anything against this conspiracy is unrealistic.

              thirdly, to create an alternative to the IOC is just one of the options
              Quote: Lukich
              and the exit from the IOC will be immediately driven from other federations. and goodbye sports in Russia. the cabal will remain

              league of nations we left the same time
              1. Lukich
                Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 52
                0
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                thirdly, to create an alternative to the IOC is just one of the options

                RAVE!!!! IOC from a member of the ????? who will go to this IOC ????? Well, who ????? Well, at least 3 truly sporting, independent of the states of the country there ????? I'm listening to the candidates !!!!
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: Lukich
                  Well, at least 3 truly sporting, independent of the states of the country there ?????

                  RF, China, India ...
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 13: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Lukich
                  who will go to this IOC ?????

                  only prakita is the measure of truth
                  1. Lukich
                    Lukich 24 July 2016 16: 26
                    0
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    only prakita is the measure of truth

                    only an experiment needs to be given a theoretical basis.
    3. Monarchist
      Monarchist 24 July 2016 08: 30
      +1
      I doubt that this is possible: we are trying very hard to "get used" to the West. Putin said there would be no boycott of the Olympics
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 09: 11
        0
        Quote: Monarchist
        that there will be no boycott of the Olympiad

        when he said this there was a completely different situation, and a boycott will all happen if we are removed
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 09: 09
      0
      we can demand anything, only who will return something to us
      but getting up and getting out is real and starting work on creating an alternative organization
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 24 July 2016 10: 20
        -1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and start work on creating an alternative organization

        storyteller. WHAT ???? we’ll leave the IOC, will be removed from other federations. nobody will be able to come to us !!!
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 10: 43
          0
          do not tell me how many champions have boxers?
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 24 July 2016 12: 55
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            do not tell me how many champions have boxers?

            INTERNATIONAL !!!!! Our federations, NO ONE WILL RECOGNIZE and NO ONE WILL COMPETE WITH US !!!!
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 24 July 2016 12: 57
              +1
              Quote: Lukich
              INTERNATIONAL !!!!! Our federations, NO ONE WILL RECOGNIZE and NO ONE WILL COMPETE WITH US !!!!

              Super series 72-year hockey USSR-Canada ... our results across the throat to the west have become. Or do you think otherwise?
              1. Lukich
                Lukich 24 July 2016 13: 03
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                Super series 72-year hockey USSR-Canada ... our results across the throat to the west have become. Or do you think otherwise?

                But what does this have to do with the topic of Russia's exclusion from the IOC? request then it’s closer to the topic of the 1980 and 1984 Olympics
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 24 July 2016 13: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: Lukich
                  But what does this have to do with the topic of Russia's exclusion from the IOC?

                  Read carefully ... I'm talking about the results. If our athletes set records that will not be able to surpass the Olympic champions under the roof of the IOC, then what is the price of these medals and titles?
                  1. Lukich
                    Lukich 24 July 2016 16: 32
                    0
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    If our athletes set records that will not be able to surpass the Olympic champions under the roof of the IOC,

                    1. where they will bet if they are not allowed to compete.
                    2. If we create any other organization, then no one will ever recognize it.
                    3. Judges will be needed, where to get them? those who have an international license will never come to us. they will simply be banned
                    4. not one result will not be officially recognized. to prove that he is higher is unrealistic. \
                    and so on to infinity ... no, no, no ....
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 16: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: Lukich
                      where they will bet if they are not allowed to compete.

                      Yes, even in open Russian competitions
                      Quote: Lukich
                      if we create any other organization, no one will ever recognize it

                      if we get kicked out of the IOC there are no options, well, only if we abandon the sport of achievements at all, because then we cannot even so participate in international competitions
              2. Lukich
                Lukich 24 July 2016 13: 07
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                Super series 72-year hockey USSR-Canada ... our results across the throat to the west have become. Or do you think otherwise?

                By the way, they became exclusively Canadians. the west did not notice this. they had no cult of hockey. and the series was unofficial. UROFNU International Hockey Federation, friendly games. professionals were not members of the federation. By the way, then we lost the series
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 24 July 2016 13: 15
                  +2
                  Quote: Lukich
                  By the way, then we lost the series

                  As a Russian, you should know how Esposito later confessed who and why "knocked out" Kharlamov in the last match. And if not for that, the Canadians would have been bent over, which even they had no doubt about, because they DID NOT DO ANYTHING with the 17th number COULD. And therefore played against him dirty and despicable.
                  By the way, in the 74th, we returned all the Canadians to butchering them. Although the NHL did not play on the side of Canada there, it was the World Hockey Association. At the same time, both Bobby Hull and Gordy Howe played for the Canadians.
                  1. Lukich
                    Lukich 24 July 2016 16: 36
                    0
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    As a Russian, you should know how Esposito later admitted who and why “knocked out” Kharlamov in the last match.

                    I know that. but what does this have to do with talking about OI?
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    .Although there was no longer the NHL from Canada speaking, but the World Hockey Association.

                    and here is the answer to all your claims to the IOC alternative. in one country they couldn’t get along. shawala NHL VHA and did not choke
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 13: 12
              +1
              to get an answer you need to try
              in addition, when we are removed from ALL international competitions, what difference do we need
  • Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 24 July 2016 08: 11
    +17
    It is necessary to prepare for the most unsightly turn of events. Both athletes and sports functionaries. And if such a decision is made, especially for those who will prepare the "return line", such rudeness cannot be left with impunity. And call this answer even obliquely variable, it should hit the prestige of these "partners", God forgive me.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 24 July 2016 08: 11
    +13
    Anglo-Saxons have thrown linden while .... so to speak, they want to check the reaction of society to this.
    Let's wait until the confirmation of the official IOC.
    I considered and still consider the Anglo-Saxons as the worst enemies of both RUSSIA and the Russian people as a whole ....

    they dirty us everywhere and wherever they can.
    It’s bad that the governing bodies of the Olympic movement are under their control ...
    this puts us in a known position for whipping; there is no way to honestly defend ourselves against their arbitrariness.

    I was struck by an interview MUTKO ...
    he paid the Anglo-Saxons crazy money from our own budget (pocket) so that they would bred us with doping tests ... vile in my heart from such dirty tricks.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 24 July 2016 08: 37
      +7
      In my opinion, Mutko has long had to rest: he does not do anything except to give speeches, and he really hopes for the conscience of UNCONSCIOUS
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 24 July 2016 09: 01
        0
        Quote: Monarchist
        In my opinion, Mutko has long had to rest: he does nothing except speak

        Excuse me, but what could he ONE do there, when EVERYTHING has already been decided. nobody just listened to him. example in court. at least ONE our argument who heard? and one is not a warrior in the field
        1. pv1005
          pv1005 24 July 2016 10: 22
          +1
          Quote: Lukich
          Quote: Monarchist
          In my opinion, Mutko has long had to rest: he does nothing except speak

          Excuse me, but what could he ONE do there, when EVERYTHING has already been decided. nobody just listened to him. example in court. at least ONE our argument who heard? and one is not a warrior in the field

          ONE !? I thought it was a sinful thing that he was leading the ministry. And you see how, ODIN. am
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 24 July 2016 13: 00
            0
            Quote: pv1005
            ONE !? I thought it was a sinful thing that he was leading the ministry. And you see how, ODIN.

            in the IOC, all our ministry is sitting. and I thought there they are listening to a representative
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 July 2016 08: 54
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      he paid

      The state pays, not him. Just a couple of years ago, no one thought that they were capable of such a vile thing. And you also didn’t mind that we pay them money.
      Therefore, specifically in this case, blaming Mudko is to justify the corrupt IOC.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 24 July 2016 09: 04
        0
        The state pays, not him. Just a couple of years ago, no one thought that they were capable of such a vile thing. And you also didn’t mind that we pay them money.
        Therefore, specifically in this case, blaming Mudko is to justify the corrupt IOC.


        Alexander ...
        when the epic with doping control began, I already said that an attack had begun on our sport, on our athletes and MUTCO, as a representative of the state, was obliged to protect them and not moo.
        After all, MUTKO presented in an interview his accusations of foreign sports officials of corruption that no one is going to investigate ... it's just a disgrace ...
        why he was silent before ... why he didn’t make a fuss in all the media ... so it suited him.
        And as a minister, he did not cope with his task ... that means the ministry should be headed by a person who is able to protect our sports, our athletes ...
        this is my position.
        Without the consent of MUTCO (as the responsible representative of the state), no one would pay this doping laboratory.

        As a famous person said ... FRAMES decide everything ...

        in this case, the inability of the state official to calculate the moves of our enemies played against him ... he is very naive about them.
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 09: 12
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Anglo-Saxons have thrown linden while .... so to speak, they want to check the reaction of society to this.

      this is not a test of reaction, but a planned PR action
  • Lukich
    Lukich 24 July 2016 08: 12
    +3
    The phrase “the white flag of the IOC” has recently acquired a special shade. Apparently, the officials of the International Olympic Committee are ready to throw the white flag before the pressure of politicians who have decided that through sport one can and should put political pressure in favor of one’s own opportunistic interests.

    but it seems to me that they want to humiliate those athletes who pick him up and go to the Olympic Games
  • Dam
    Dam 24 July 2016 08: 13
    +11
    War is like war. Why be surprised? It’s just time to stop funding these Wad, mokas and other hotbeds of bureaucracy. It's time to organize your own competition center with good prize pools
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 08: 21
      +2
      Quote: Damm
      It's just time to stop funding these Wad,

      we don’t finance it. this is an incomprehensible organization to anyone. therefore, Americans and close to their athletes are not allowed. but they set her on us.
      Quote: Damm
      It's time to organize your own competition center with good prize pools

      under whose auspices? what shall we call? where will we get the money for a "good prize fund"? and the last one who will go to this competition? federations will be banned, and they will banned, and this will be the next championship of Russia
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 24 July 2016 08: 26
        +1
        Quote: Lukich
        therefore, Americans and close to their athletes are not allowed. but they set her on us.

        But they control it very well.
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 08: 28
          +3
          Quote: Vladimirets
          But they control it very well.

          and they control everything. even terrorists. "moderate opposition", here's an example
          1. Smog
            Smog 24 July 2016 08: 36
            +5
            Quote: Lukich

            and they control everything. even terrorists. "moderate opposition", here's an example

            And the country of Limonia, oh Dill? Another example of examples.
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 24 July 2016 08: 50
      +1
      Even if you arrange vivid competitions and a good prize pool, there will be ersatz competitions: competitions between each other. Unfortunately, an analogue of the Pan-American Games will not work: who will not be afraid of Uncle B’s nest?
  • Smog
    Smog 24 July 2016 08: 13
    +6
    Here it is, a hybrid war. In its full "beauty". And what should we expect next?
    Most likely, the attack will be against holding the World Cup in Russia.
    Or maybe they’ll come up with something else?
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 08: 23
      +2
      Quote: Smog
      Most likely, the attack will be against holding the World Cup in Russia.

      have secured the resignation of our friendly Blatter
      1. Smog
        Smog 24 July 2016 08: 33
        +4
        Quote: Lukich
        Quote: Smog
        Most likely, the attack will be against holding the World Cup in Russia.

        have secured the resignation of our friendly Blatter

        Well, yes, a start has been made.
        Although, in all honesty, nothing really shines for our players at World Cup2018. In 2 years, to make a new team is a miracle. If only Hottabych connect.
        But at least our fans will "warm up" laughing
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 24 July 2016 09: 04
          +1
          Quote: Smog
          Although, honestly, our football players do not shine at the 2018 World Cup by and large.

          Yes, that’s not the point. HUGE financial losses. We have already invested so much .... but there will be no return
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 24 July 2016 08: 58
      +1
      There have already been attacks on holding the World Cup 18 in Russia, remember? It seems to me that you can disrupt the championship, but where to hold it if Russia is removed? After all, it is necessary to carry out a huge preparatory work, and time ....
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 July 2016 08: 16
    +6
    It just says that DU. Ra.Ka cannot be kept in charge of ANYWHERE, even the Minister of Sports of Russia. It is impossible to listen to him. And the fact that they decided to "trample" the Russian Olympic team, in addition to the order, was based on the fact that the defense would be constantly late and get confused in its own feet ...
    1. midivan
      midivan 24 July 2016 08: 31
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It just says that DU. Ra.Ka cannot be kept in charge of ANYWHERE, even the Minister of Sports of Russia. It is impossible to listen to him. And the fact that they decided to "trample" the Russian Olympic team, in addition to the order, was based on the fact that the defense would be constantly late and get confused in its own feet ...

      laughing Well, what’s gotten up on Mutka? There, though Zeus’s delivering the result will not change as much and you don’t have to amuse yourself with the fact that our minister is not the same.
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 24 July 2016 09: 01
      +1
      People have long said that our minister of sports is without sports!
  • demchuk.ig
    demchuk.ig 24 July 2016 08: 19
    0
    Cowardly cheap! No more words !!
  • prior
    prior 24 July 2016 08: 23
    +4
    I always said - the West is a civilization of cannibals, hiding behind words about values.
    Gobble up another - all their essence, all their value. Nationality devoured for them
    it doesn’t matter - Japanese or Chinese, African or Afghan, Russian or Ukrainian.
    ,
    1. Altona
      Altona 24 July 2016 13: 15
      +1
      Quote: prior
      Gobble up another

      ----------------------
      If the development of events goes according to a scenario unfavorable for us, then the USA and Great Britain will destroy Olympism. It will come back to haunt very quickly. Today we, tomorrow other "uncomfortable" teams will be pushed to the sidelines. The candidates are already known - this is China (about 13500 doping samples are taken annually, we have 14700), then Germany (about 7500 doping samples are taken annually). Naturally, local types of "meldonia" will be found. The technology has already been worked out. The handcrafted chairman of the CAS sports arbitration in the "Hague" style will say i'm really sorry but name team can be banned for ... That's the whole story.
  • Knowing
    Knowing 24 July 2016 08: 26
    +2
    Everything was predictable. Everything comes around. LET JUMP.
  • ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 24 July 2016 08: 27
    +12
    That is, if we remove Putin from power, return Crimea to Ukraine, leave Syria, we will suddenly be allowed to participate in the Olympic Games under the flag of Russia ?! And dope, suddenly becomes utterly absurd and the IOC will open its arms to us ?! Yes, the front of the horseradish on your collar !!! am
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 24 July 2016 08: 33
      +6
      Quote: ALABAY45
      suddenly we will be allowed to participate in the Olympic Games under the flag of Russia ?!

      Not immediately, only after that. how do we kneel the whole country, pay indemnity to Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgians, others, give part of the territory, recognize the genocide (on our part) of all: from North American Indians to mackerel, well and much more. yes
      1. major071
        major071 24 July 2016 09: 11
        +10
        Vladimirets
        Not immediately, only after that. as we kneel the whole country, pay the indemnity to Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgians, others, give part of the territory, recognize the genocide (on our part) of all: from North American Indians to mackerel, well and much more. yes


        Are we also mackerel? belay
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 24 July 2016 12: 51
          +1
          Quote: major071
          Are we also mackerel?

          And then who? yes
      2. midivan
        midivan 24 July 2016 16: 53
        +1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: ALABAY45
        suddenly we will be allowed to participate in the Olympic Games under the flag of Russia ?!

        Not immediately, only after that. how do we kneel the whole country, pay indemnity to Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgians, others, give part of the territory, recognize the genocide (on our part) of all: from North American Indians to mackerel, well and much more. yes

        belay this is where do we get so many linings on the collars?
    2. midivan
      midivan 24 July 2016 08: 38
      +5
      Quote: ALABAY45
      That is, if we remove Putin from power, return Crimea to Ukraine, leave Syria, we will suddenly be allowed to participate in the Olympic Games under the flag of Russia ?! And dope, suddenly becomes utterly absurd and the IOC will open its arms to us ?! Yes, the front of the horseradish on your collar !!! am

      I think on the contrary, Putin is absent for a second term, Ukraine will be annexed, expelled from Syria, and preferably from Iraq, and then it seems to me that they will allow me. Yes! and keep the front part, well, Schaub did not rub his neck laughing
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 13: 29
      0
      Quote: ALABAY45
      That is, if we remove Putin from power, return Crimea to Ukraine, leave Syria, we will suddenly be allowed to participate in the Olympic Games under the flag of Russia ?!

      no, we still have to transfer all hydrocarbon deposits to international management, dissolve the army and repent, repent, repent, and maybe then nm will allow something
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  • thinker
    thinker 24 July 2016 08: 34
    +1
    The meeting with the participation of 15 members of the executive committee will begin in the afternoon, the decision of the IOC is expected around 17.00 Moscow time.
    In the meantime, the carnival of Russophobia continues negative
  • NordUral
    NordUral 24 July 2016 08: 39
    +3
    Provocative stuffing of the Anglo-Saxons. Let's wait for the official message. Although the hopes for the decency of the West are minimal. The times of "Three Comrades" and "Enchanted Soul" have sunk into oblivion. It's a pity!
  • Khariton
    Khariton 24 July 2016 08: 45
    +3
    How will we answer men ...? I heard a topic such as to boycott the goods of the main sponsors of the Olympics (they also have the right to vote there), Coca-Cola, McDonald's, etc. Silence is impossible!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 24 July 2016 08: 46
      +2
      And you must not be silent, and bleat, like our elite, like rams for the slaughter.
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander 24 July 2016 09: 18
        0
        Quote: NordUral
        And you must not be silent, and bleat, like our top, like rams on the slaughter.


        Moreover, the conciliatory bleating only suggests that something really is wrong with doping. Do they not understand this? request
        1. Khariton
          Khariton 24 July 2016 10: 11
          -1
          Quote: Aleksander
          Quote: NordUral
          And you must not be silent, and bleat, like our top, like rams on the slaughter.


          Moreover, the conciliatory bleating only suggests that something really is wrong with doping. Do they not understand this? request

          Looks like it was all the same ... But you can’t lynch Russia purely for this? Everyone has a stigma in the gun ...
    2. SergeBS
      SergeBS 24 July 2016 16: 17
      0
      Quote: Chariton
      I heard a topic such as to boycott the goods of the main sponsors of the Olympics

      And add boxes to the broadcast of the Olympics in Rio - "if you want the Russian Federation not to participate in the Olympics further - BUY Coca-Cola (and further down the list)." Break off advertising sponsors in full. Money will be lost - it will be combed.
      Moreover, this anti-advertising can be deployed immediately after the ban of the Russian Federation, there is no need to wait for the start of the Olympics.
      At the same time, we will raise import substitution. I drink Ochakov kvass, and not Coke, for example. wink
      And Tarhun recently found. It tastes like 30 years ago. fellow
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 24 July 2016 17: 25
        0
        The IOC cunning has made such a decision that it will embroil everyone, demanding perfect purity from our athletes, but we can demand the same from other countries.
        And the response to discrimination must be tough, without wagging backwards.
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk 24 July 2016 08: 45
    +1
    Quote: Sith Lord
    I also propose to boycott the Olympics


    This is what they achieved by all means, and when it didn’t work out, they removed them from participation. In my opinion, they have already prepared a grand provocation with the aim of blaming Russia. There was a trifle left - to ensure her absence at the Olympics in any way! God bless me to make a mistake!
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 24 July 2016 09: 01
      -1
      Quote: beer-youk
      Quote: Sith Lord
      I also propose to boycott the Olympics


      This is what they achieved by all means, and when it didn’t work out, they removed them from participation. In my opinion, they have already prepared a grand provocation with the aim of blaming Russia. There was a trifle left - to ensure her absence at the Olympics in any way! God bless me to make a mistake!

      Everything goes to this .... After all, they will arrange it and there will be a lot of blood! Vile and vile all!
    2. berezin1987
      berezin1987 24 July 2016 09: 28
      0
      Is it sense to blame our country for a possible provocation? Arrange a major terrorist attack and say that the Russians did it, so this is nonsense. Or will they discover the corpses of terrorists with Russian passports?
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 24 July 2016 10: 07
        -1
        Quote: berezin1987
        Is it sense to blame our country for a possible provocation? Arrange a major terrorist attack and say that the Russians did it, so this is nonsense. Or will they discover the corpses of terrorists with Russian passports?

        You think right ... The more cynical a lie, the more they believe it! Remember the Boeing and the Smolensk disaster? There are no facts, but there are perpetrators! And after all, many believe ...
        The West wants thousands to go to the swamp, the shooting has begun and again the 90s dashing This time they will clearly make a "control shot" in the head of Russia and still jump on it to make sure that Russia is dead!
        And then "disco" .....
        1. berezin1987
          berezin1987 24 July 2016 10: 36
          0
          For fans to go to the swamp created by the National Guard. It will turn out not the Ukrainian Maidan, but Tiananmen Square. If the provocations increase, then the case may well end as in 45.
  • rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 24 July 2016 09: 03
    +6
    The entire national team of Russia will be removed from the Olympics
    There are still adequate people in the west
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 24 July 2016 09: 28
      +1
      Without the Russian team in Rio, this will not be a competition, but a game in the sandbox, under the supervision of educators! Russians do not give up, I think that the adequate people in the world understand this all perfectly ..
  • MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 24 July 2016 09: 03
    +5
    The Valaam elders clearly say that Satan has ruled Western Europe and America for a long time. Obscurantism blooms on an alarming scale! And soon these countries will face an absolute collapse. All human values ​​are lost: family, love, children, old people ... Decay and decay - this is their future!
    But Russia is kept by the Lord and the Most Holy Theotokos. How many times have Russia tried to enslave and kneel ?! Did not work out! And it won’t come out in the future! Only it's time to show your teeth and drive an aspen stake into this fiend of hell!
    1. Berkut24
      Berkut24 24 July 2016 09: 40
      0
      I was in Valaam last year. I do not want to offend anyone, but the islands have become an exceptionally commercial place replete with remakes. Everything smelled of money there. So I don’t know what the elders say there, especially since the whole real Valaam church community, after the defeat of Finland in the 2nd World War, together with all the church shrines moved to Finland to the mainland.
  • Andrew
    Andrew 24 July 2016 09: 04
    +7
    It's simple, this is war.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 09: 22
      0
      Quote: Andrew
      It's simple, this is war.

      which began on May 9, 1945
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 09: 30
        +1
        much earlier
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 09: 05
    +1
    Well comrades, take your seats in the hall, stock up on popcorn, you can watch the production called "... to the Olympic movement of Pierre de Coubertin" a very natural end in the consumer society
    although the article in the next yellow edition is most likely not a sounding of the decision itself, but another stuffing in order to put pressure on the "high" "court"
    although if all the same Russia will be torn out and since everyone wants to eat a hundred including games of 18, it seems that we should leave the IOC
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 24 July 2016 09: 10
    +2
    Quote: Lukich
    Quote: Teberii
    It is necessary to demand compensation then they will speak differently.
    they won’t speak and there will be no compensation. and through the courts we won’t achieve it. what kind of courts have we seen

    Do you suggest washing? No, as they say, "Baba Yaga is against!". Court, arbitration are tools that allow you to defend your point of view and nothing more, but it is necessary to defend.
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 24 July 2016 09: 31
      -1
      I suggest that the head of the IOC slip in the bathroom or drown in the pool. They will not understand otherwise. But Rodchenkov must be poisoned with meldonium and discard the skates.
    2. Berkut24
      Berkut24 24 July 2016 09: 46
      +1
      I hope that Vladimir Vladimirovich has enough documented information to discredit the leadership of the IOC, WADA and other sports federations. Who, to whom, how much, with recordings of conversations, etc. In order to cancel the results of the Olympiad, and to sit a couple of hundred officials from sports in prisons, and to expose these businessmen and politicians from sports a hard coin for damaging the country.
      It's time to shake this tree with wormy apples.
    3. Lukich
      Lukich 24 July 2016 13: 12
      0
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Court, arbitration - tools to defend their point of view, and only

      a few days in Lausanne, the arbitration court has already shown its "justice"
  • imugn
    imugn 24 July 2016 09: 29
    +1
    They say that we have a weak representation in various sports organizations. It would not be bad (in the future) to raise the issue of representation in the organization in proportion to the contributions made. Start an investigation against all IOC members who voted for the removal of the national team. Surely there is some compromising correspondence, calls, etc., and if not, then acting with American methods is a setup and provocation. Calculate the losses of Russia and pure athletes and sue WADA, in the structure of which fraud with samples, IOC, etc. are possible.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 24 July 2016 09: 33
    0
    The attack on world sports is the exaggerated "dominance" of the United States in the world. And the West still cannot agree that the times when "everything was possible" are over.
  • Altona
    Altona 24 July 2016 09: 36
    +1
    It turns out that way. Fascism rules.
  • amber-50
    amber-50 24 July 2016 09: 59
    0
    A sport of high achievements, first of all a lot of money. These are TV broadcasts and prize-winning and inventory and (much without it) advertising. Therefore, eliminating our athletes (in many types of potential leaders) they open the way to medals (read for money) to their athletes. these are future contracts, commercial performances in which ours will no longer be. And most importantly, their desire to humiliate our country. And they can succeed if our athletes agree to perform under the white flag (moving away from the state) .And demand from the IOC as soon as possible to return the funds invested by our state in the holding of this Olympics, plus a penalty for not received benefits.
  • 1536
    1536 24 July 2016 10: 10
    0
    What is there to say? It all started when in 2014 the USA and the European Union attacked and occupied Ukraine. We managed to save only the Crimea! Now, feeling their impunity, the Nazis continue to advance. We must unite and fight back!
  • Caa
    Caa 24 July 2016 10: 17
    +1
    Quote: Delink
    Do not watch, but turn off the channels broadcasting the Olympics.
    Accredited journalists should not be sent to the Olympics.
    On the Internet, block all sites relaying the Olympics.


    I believe that we need a massive information company that all medals from Rio are not worth a penny, if there were no Russian athletes. our guys have lost so many years because of these ...! Let the other participants not feel their victories. Everyone in the world should know that these medals are worthless and were received not by sporting efforts, but by politics.
  • K-50
    K-50 24 July 2016 10: 22
    +1
    All 387 Russian athletes will be suspended from the Olympics in Rio.

    Political order and nothing more. When they raise the beta tests of 8 years ago and shout about the presence of doping, it only says that it has become beneficial to someone. Previously, they were not considered doping, but for political pressure they renegotiated behind the scenes. Here is the result. I don't understand another thing. Some "sportsmen" want to change CITIZENSHIP to participate in the games !!!!!!
    It turns out the game for them CURRENTLY Homeland? belay
    Fuck !!!! such athletes !!!!! am
  • Vodila
    Vodila 24 July 2016 10: 27
    +1
    When will these creatures rush their sanctions ???
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 24 July 2016 10: 39
      +1
      When they will receive in the face from us.
  • SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 24 July 2016 10: 56
    0
    It is necessary to conduct purges in the sports (bureaucratic) community. I looked at the biography of Mutko:
    "Received an initial vocational education at a nautical vocational school in the town of Petrokrepost, Leningrad Region, specializing in a minder.

    He received secondary vocational education at the Leningrad River College.

    In absentia, being the chairman of the Kirov District Council !!!!, without leaving work, he graduated from the territory of the Kirov District !!!! Leningrad Institute of Water Transport, specializing in mechanical engineer on ship engines (1987).

    In absentia, as president of the Zenit football club, he graduated from the law faculty of St. Petersburg State University (1999).

    On June 16, 2006, being president of the Russian Football Union, he defended his dissertation on the topic "The ratio of market and state regulators in the development of physical culture and sports" at the St. Petersburg State University of Economics and Finance. Based on the results of his defense, he was awarded the academic degree of candidate of economic sciences. "

    Comrades! I will not comment on Mutko’s tremendous steps in the field of education, you understand. I know only one thing - Ken should know English, at least in the volume of dialogue. Remember Mutko’s meeting with the Italian head of the football committee? GDP then gave him a dictionary of English. language. No comments.
    I think that sports universities of the country have been training sports managers for a long time. How can a person not having a sports education, education and in no way involved in sports (does he have a rank?) Before that can lead such an important industry?

    Now of course you can’t shoot, but when it stops ...
  • Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 24 July 2016 10: 56
    +1
    Point of no return passed.
    Now the third world is apparently inevitable.
    1. berezin1987
      berezin1987 24 July 2016 13: 30
      +1
      And we will win it. The US and the EU will suffer the fate of the Third Reich, but for the victory we will also pay a huge price.
    2. prior
      prior 24 July 2016 13: 51
      0
      "The point of no return has been passed.
      Now the third world is apparently inevitable. "

      Well, now you can think about indemnity for all the wrongful decisions of all
      Western countries and organizations.
      We will remember everyone and everything by name ...
  • Ololo
    Ololo 24 July 2016 10: 59
    -1
    We have to do the boycott ourselves, there have been cases already .. in 80 and 84
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 13: 38
      0
      study the subject please
  • iouris
    iouris 24 July 2016 11: 49
    0
    We'll find out in 15 minutes. By the decision of the IOC, it is possible to predict what conclusion will be announced by the "commission" to delay the investigation of the causes of the death of MH17.
  • Flatter
    Flatter 24 July 2016 12: 38
    0
    Nothing can be done already. "Our Western friends and partners" are playing for a long time. And the attitude towards Russian athletes, after the doping scandal, will not change very soon, darkened by mistrust and suspicion. The services are appropriate, what they were doing, because the Olympics are far from ordinary an event that the United States demonstrated to the whole world.
  • Caa
    Caa 24 July 2016 12: 40
    0
    Quote: Lukich
    it reminds me, to spite my mother's ears will frostbite. all the same, in their media they will sing that "the Russians in spite of bloody Putin watched the Olympics clandestinely"


    Of course they will. But, after all, there is a difference when you read this and you really looked, and the option when you did NOT look? We have talked a lot about Turkey and the Turks recently, but we must pay tribute: one single call by Erdogashka on the phone and everyone poured out onto the streets and to embassies in other states. Now, if an embargo is introduced there or thrown out of the Olympics / football / anything, it seems to me that many will support.

    And to punish the West financially, you know, is not entirely in our power. But the biggest peak in one place is our unity and patriotism! Offended athletes - we spit on THEIR Olympiad! We shot down our pilot - we are not going to that country, we are not buying goods! And, I believe, they imposed sanctions against Crimea - the rest of Russia is official and just people should forget once and for all about those who dare to do this!

    It’s a pity in this situation, our athletes .. But, can you organize your own Olympics for them? Let them show the results, let them get real medals, incentives, etc., and we will disseminate it to the whole world: here, they say, we set such and such records, achieved such and such results. And athletes will have an incentive to continue to train, to stay in the country. And let foreigners ask their moki, shmoki, etc., etc. why so? Why did they receive the Olympics, but did not receive the competition and well-deserved awards?

    Somehow I see it.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 July 2016 14: 37
    +2
    Well, I hope that Mudko and our other sports officials are not
    fly with their females and cubs to Rio on budget money.
    And I hope that they will not broadcast on central channels
    this Olympics with commercials.
    Otherwise, it will somehow turn ugly ...
    And we have an alternative Olympics ...
    Well, it will just look pathetic, chesslovo.
    And abroad they will say that there is doping directly in buckets.
    So there are other ways to hit search.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 July 2016 14: 44
      0
      Quote: Zomanus
      Well, I hope that Mudko and our other sports officials are not
      fly with their females and cubs to Rio

      the main thing is that they fly from their places
  • Circuit breaker
    Circuit breaker 24 July 2016 15: 48
    0
    Personally, for me - do not care for these suspensions. We will hold our own Olympiad - with the Olympic flame and judges))))))
  • SAA
    SAA 24 July 2016 17: 07
    0
    And why did everyone at Eurovision whine for the deported Crimean Tatars. They say that the tyrant Stalin sent a whole people into exile because of several traitors. And then all the "progressive and not so" humanity demands blood and punishment of the whole country in which only a few people drink alcohol with the addition of mildonium. All others who take alcohol without mildonium additives suffer. Stalin and Hitler are just playful children against the background of the most humane Americans and Europeans.
  • Lord_Bran
    Lord_Bran 24 July 2016 21: 41
    0
    It's time to dump dirt on the "enemy" athletes. Even the names are not particularly hidden - Serena Williams alone is worth something.