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Kremlin press service: Putin will meet with Erdogan in Russia

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Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov told reporters about plans for Vladimir Putin’s personal meeting with Turkish President Erdogan. Recall that earlier it was reported about the readiness of the Russian president to meet with those in respect of who yesterday heard the comments in the style of "knife in the back." And this meeting, as originally stated, should be held in China during the G20 summit - in early September.

Kremlin press service: Putin will meet with Erdogan in Russia


Now the plans have changed and, according to Dmitry Peskov, a personal meeting of the presidents of Russia and Turkey will take place in Russia. The head of the Kremlin press service quotes Interfax:
Now the diplomatic channels are preparing and working out a meeting between Putin and Erdogan. They agreed that this meeting will take place in the first decade of August. It will be in the Russian Federation. The city and the specific date are now being specified.


Journalists inquired about whether Vladimir Putin had planned a meeting with Erdogan in Azerbaijan. At the same time, the number was mentioned - August 9. Dmitry Peskov's answer was:

It is not true. A trilateral meeting of the presidents of Russia, Azerbaijan and Iran will be held in Baku.


Today it became known that Erdogan had a telephone conversation with the US president. According to the press service of the Turkish president, Barack Obama was informed that an official request was sent to the United States to issue Fethullah Gülen, as well as "several folders with evidence of his involvement in the coup attempt." Obama said he was ready for "full cooperation for the proceedings in this case."
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 20 July 2016 13: 49
    +23
    Kremlin press service: Putin will meet with Erdogan in Russia

    I would like to trust the president and know that we need this. That this meeting will be used in the interests of Russia.
    I hope that the perfect crime, the killing by the Turks of Oleg Anatolyevich Peshkov and Alexander Mikhailovich Pozynich, will not be leveled by any apology.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 20 July 2016 13: 52
      +27
      Quote: Andrey K
      I would like to trust the president and know that we need this. That this meeting will be used in the interests of Russia.

      Do you doubt that Putin is doing something not in Russia's interests?
      1. Garri_
        Garri_ 20 July 2016 13: 55
        .
        ..Putin does everything in the interests of his environment ..
        1. avt
          avt 20 July 2016 14: 32
          +6
          Quote: Andrey K
          I would like to trust the president and know that we need this. That this meeting will be used in the interests of Russia.

          Quote: Garri_
          Putin does everything in the interests of his environment ..

          Well, why on earth should one refuse to satisfy the pride of VVP from the sight of the sultan kissing his hand "which he cannot" chop off "? bully Well, according to the Turkish proverb - “you can't cut off - a kiss.” Let Erdogan come to Moscow ... and in general where Putin will let him go, science will be different in advance.
          Quote: hirurg
          So Erdogan great pinned.

          This "sting" from himself he nagged, and most importantly - it's not over yet, everything is just starting there, well, in terms of the transition to the active phase, spiced with Islamism up to the tonsils. What else can you say? Well, just to the Germans, run back to the Volga region and Kazakhstan, or better immediately to Siberia, well, or cut off and build minarets.
          1. Baikal
            Baikal 20 July 2016 15: 18
            +8
            Let parents of Oleg Peshkov, Alexander Pozynich and parents of other heroes be invited to a meeting.
            And let IT explain what happened and how. Why.
            Looking in the eyes.
            1. Poppy
              Poppy 20 July 2016 15: 47
              +1
              well, so he will say that they are conspirators, against my will
            2. avt
              avt 20 July 2016 15: 50
              +3
              Quote: Baikal
              And let IT explain what happened and how. Why.
              Looking in the eyes.

              Quote: eugeniy.369
              Absolutely.

              This is when you take Istanbul by storm, hoist a cross there on Sofia, or hoist a flag, again Erdogan is not going under the escort to the tribunal, and Putin will meet him at the chair of the tribunal at a table covered with red cloth. If you didn’t notice for an hour or missed, we don’t officially fight at all with Turkey. You can see for yourself - the straits are open in all directions for our ships and ships.
              Quote: hirurg
              But you need to keep your ears open.

              He’s an eternally memorable peasant in life and will swallow this insult, and he will save the sediment.
            3. BARKAS
              BARKAS 20 July 2016 16: 21
              +1
              Quote: Baikal
              Let parents of Oleg Peshkov, Alexander Pozynich and parents of other heroes be invited to a meeting.
              And let IT explain what happened and how. Why.
              Looking in the eyes.

              I agree with you only they will not come!
            4. g1v2
              g1v2 20 July 2016 17: 12
              +2
              Soldiers die for their country throughout history. For safety and a better life for their fellow citizens. If the result leads to increased security and power of the country, then their death was not in vain. And their families hardly need a false apology. It is enough that Erdogan had to apologize to Russia. Do not crush the beast, maybe if you go too far - it will fail. hi
          2. kvv1969
            kvv1969 20 July 2016 16: 46
            +6
            Quote: avt
            Well, let Erdogan come to Moscow ... but in general, to where Putin will let him go, science will be ahead of others.

            Let it go to Yalta. This will be the move yes good
            1. avt
              avt 20 July 2016 16: 50
              +5
              Quote: kvv1969
              Let it go to Yalta. This will be the move

              In the Livadia Palace, such as see where the world order is established. bully
            2. Khariton
              Khariton 20 July 2016 16: 57
              +3
              Quote: kvv1969
              Quote: avt
              Well, let Erdogan come to Moscow ... but in general, to where Putin will let him go, science will be ahead of others.

              Let it go to Yalta. This will be the move yes good

              This is a great idea and it’s close right! And most importantly, it’s safe if Erdogan lands on a warship to the Crimea! Here is a squeal that will begin in the world .. bully
          3. Simple
            Simple 20 July 2016 17: 50
            0
            Quote: avt
            Well, only to the Germans, run back to the Volga region and Kazakhstan, and it is better to go directly to Siberia, well, or cut yourself off and build minarets.



            Look in the mirror. ...
        2. BARKAS
          BARKAS 20 July 2016 16: 19
          +2
          Quote: Garri_
          ..Putin does everything in the interests of his environment ..

          Well honestly, if you like mantras so then go to Hare Krishnas there, you will be in your place, and if you decide to criticize then do it more constructively, especially since there are enough reasons.
        3. INVESTOR
          INVESTOR 20 July 2016 16: 34
          -1
          Lure the Sultan to Russia, and close in the same chamber with Napoleon fellow
        4. unsinkable
          unsinkable 20 July 2016 16: 42
          -2
          Quote: Garri_
          ..Putin does everything in the interests of his environment ..

          Where do such fucking come from ... (said without a twinge of conscience) fool
        5. sandrmur76
          sandrmur76 20 July 2016 18: 56
          0
          Garri So I don’t know how to check how many people trust V.V. Putin. In order not to gain advantages, I can offer + GDP in my comments. If the site is honest, we will see trust! From me + GDP
          1. Alex_Tug
            Alex_Tug 20 July 2016 19: 09
            0
            So I don’t know how to check how many people trust V.V. Putin.


            Why do you need a site selection? According to your epaulets, you yourself can answer for everyone.
        6. theadenter
          theadenter 20 July 2016 21: 26
          0
          Quote: Garri_
          ..Putin does everything in the interests of his environment ..

          If Putin did everything only for his environment and put a bolt on the people, people would not support him.
      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K 20 July 2016 14: 03
        +11
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Do you doubt that Putin is doing something not in Russia's interests?

        While there was no reason for this. I do not want the death of our soldiers to be forgotten after a handshake with Erdogan. The wildest desire for this to hiccup him, to the grave.
      3. stas
        stas 20 July 2016 14: 04
        -4
        In the interests of the banking and market elite of Russia, he does everything at the expense of impoverishing citizens.

        And it would be better on the contrary.
        1. Terner38
          Terner38 20 July 2016 14: 19
          +5
          All the poor that year, I eat a lamb, I’m seizing a witch, I’m drinking Crimean cognac. I'll die soon ...
        2. stas
          stas 20 July 2016 17: 27
          +4
          When at one time Gorbaty was criticized but rejected, it was mostly people who believed Gorbaty.
          When Gorbaty was elected president of the USSR, only one woman from Chechen Umalatov openly opposed such a president of the USSR. Hunchback then won by a margin of 6 votes. Umalatov was shut up, because you dare to criticize our Brokeback.
          After that, the USSR washed itself with blood and disintegrated, and the results of the decay still pour blood.

          We are the largest and richest country in the world, and the standard of living is in Mongolia.
          Your cons do not change anything, and for me personally.
          You can't keep your people like Plyushkin in Gogol's Dead Souls.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 20 July 2016 18: 40
            -1
            Clone Stas 157?
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 20 July 2016 19: 41
              +4
              Quote: avva2012
              Clone Stas 157?

              Alexander, you're just ridiculous! If I wanted to get a second account, do you really think I would not change the name! You can ask the site administration, they probably know my IP and the IP of another Stas! Alexander, do not be shy, if you are interested in my humble person you can always contact me, I have no secrets. Any personal data.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 21 July 2016 03: 16
                -1
                Alexander, you're just ridiculous! If I wanted to get a second account, do you really think I would not change the name!

                And, hell knows you, changed did not change. I somehow do not have the time to understand your intellectual twists. Sing the same way, that's what I wanted to say.
                PS: to a stranger according to the rules of good manners, you should contact "you", if that.
        3. Asadullah
          Asadullah 20 July 2016 18: 14
          +4
          In the interests of the banking and market elite of Russia, he does everything at the expense of impoverishing citizens.

          And it would be better on the contrary.


          stas, I have a question, maybe you know what country in the world they are doing for the sake of impoverished citizens?

          Proceeding a priori that you will not name such a country, does it mean that you expect the second coming of Christ? He is definitely not Putin, he will do everything well for you. Do not worry, if you do not wait, you will still meet .....
          1. stas
            stas 20 July 2016 18: 35
            +2
            Novosibirsk pensioners took part in a rally on Tuesday evening - they honored the memory of a compatriot who had burnt herself in the EP department, and also declared the impossibility to survive in Siberian conditions due to low pensions and high tariffs for housing and communal services.
            Among the main problems of pensioners, the interlocutor called the increase in tariffs for housing and communal services, low pensions, as well as loans that the poor have to take.

            “These are systemic solutions that make human life impossible in Siberian conditions. A person loses the basis of life, but we cannot live in a forest, right? ”Matrosova believes.


            According to her, Siberian pensioners have no other way than a rally to solve these problems. The organizer explained that such a rally would not be the last - each participant has the right to express his specific problem himself.
            1. Gamer
              Gamer 20 July 2016 19: 03
              +1
              here is an article for bringing to suicide
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 20 July 2016 20: 15
            +3
            Quote: Asadullah
            I have a question, maybe you know in what country in the world they are doing everything for the sake of impoverished citizens?

            The answer on the surface is most likely those countries where there is no such a monstrous gap between rich and poor people, first of all!
            These are countries where the standard of living rating is higher than the per capita GDP rating!
            These are countries with powerful social guarantees, for example, the northern countries of Europe.
            These are countries where constitutional rights are registered not only on paper.
            Unfortunately, all this is not about us.
            Yes! There was another country where all this was. This country is the USSR.
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        5. Stas157
          Stas157 20 July 2016 18: 56
          +7
          Quote: stas
          In the interests of the banking and market elite of Russia, he does everything at the expense of impoverishing citizens.

          And it would be better on the contrary.

          Hey, the minusers! What Stas wrote so?
          Most of the wealth, our country is by no means a poor country, was in the hands of a scanty group of people! Russia in terms of income differences of the poorest and richest citizens occupies one of the leading places, second only to the Caribbean islands. According to official figures, the incomes of the richest and poorest Russians differ 16 times. And, if you add the derived income outside the country, the difference will increase to 20-21 times!
          Ordinary people are simply robbed!
      4. vlad_vlad
        vlad_vlad 20 July 2016 16: 21
        +3
        Quote: SRC P-15

        Do you doubt that Putin is doing something not in Russia's interests?



        No, what are you, how can you?

        it’s just that Russia's interests are very changeable: from love to ignorance and again to love in 6 months! So the head is spinning from a change of course.

        Moreover, Erdogan was Erdogan and 2 years ago, and 6 months ago and today. Turkey stopped supporting terror? stealing and reselling oil? hollow the Kurds? fight in Syria?

        But - now this is again our man and we love him despite some minor flaws.
        1. unsinkable
          unsinkable 20 July 2016 17: 02
          +2
          Quote: vlad_vlad
          from love to ignorance and again to love in 6 months! So the head is spinning from a change of course.

          Why are you fooling around, not foolish? There is neither love nor hatred. Necessity, and only it gives the right to use the situation to the benefit of Russia. The absurdity of your claims is confirmed by the fact that you, under the flag of the country, were at first friends with us, then treacherously attacked us and the one who received the head is arguing on this topic. So, those taught by historical bitter experience no one takes Pidrogan for a friend. They do not always kill a bitten dog.
        2. Asadullah
          Asadullah 20 July 2016 18: 23
          +3
          But - now this is again our man and we love him despite some minor flaws.


          And what exactly leads you to such conclusions? Frankly, there is nothing dumber than the concept of a children's sandbox pulling a condom on politics. Politics is a bargain where every word costs a lot of money. Behind any policy change, there are huge interests. These interests directly affect our citizens. You do not see the interests of Russia in a meeting with Erdogan? I’ll reveal a terrible secret, the US State Department also does not see any interest in this for itself.
          1. vlad_vlad
            vlad_vlad 20 July 2016 19: 25
            +1
            And what exactly leads you to such conclusions?

            What are you fooling around, not foolish?


            the Germans have a concept of "realpolitik" which means that politics should be guided by facts, interests and real opportunities. in other words, "somosa is a son of a bitch, but our son of a bitch."

            So when here on the site everyone swears for UTB amers and Europe and talks about "high spirituality", "braces" and "a special way of Russia", then I look at the situation with Erdogan and start acting like a fool.

            and those who are "unsinkable" in the boat should be like hell - right? and by the way I didn't get it in the head - I gave it out myself. I didn't know then that I was "nemchura" wink
            1. Asadullah
              Asadullah 20 July 2016 20: 39
              +1
              So when here on the site everyone swears for UTB amers and Europe and talks about "high spirituality", "braces" and "a special way of Russia", then I look at the situation with Erdogan and start acting like a fool.


              Such a thing, most of the posts, is an emotional reaction to events. For example, leave the porch with your neighbor, and then it’s raining, there is no umbrella. A neighbor is expressed in hearts, yo * ram! Why don’t you convince him that this is not some kind of ram raped by someone in a perverted way, but a natural phenomenon from condensed water, to touch on the imperfection of meteorological services, something from physics and back it up with formulas? Probably a pure Bundesburger was exactly what he was supposed to portray. Not a Bundesburger yet?)

              As for Europe for Russia, it gets it for a non-independent policy and a slide into a bureaucratic pit, because for Russia Europe is the main trading partner with whom she traded and communicated well before America declared a new Cold War. But the United States, it is a rich and powerful country that has done a lot for the lives of its citizens. And everything would be fine, but this is bad luck, this country is used to solving its internal problems by creating external problems. Russia was in the geopolitical scope and the United States mobilized all its satellites to destroy or at best deter Russia. All citizens of the country felt this in their own skin; you won’t hear anything good about the United States. What can be said good about a bully terrorizing the whole street? What had a difficult childhood? That is why, the search for methods of formation and counteraction to the attack, Russia will search everywhere and everywhere. And your foolishness is entirely directed towards the emotional wave, along which you bang the oar in the same feelings.
      5. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 20 July 2016 16: 30
        0
        Kremlin press service: Putin will meet with Erdogan in Russia

        Sultan will bring petition. angry
      6. proud
        proud 20 July 2016 21: 30
        -1
        There is no Putin, but DAM-Yes!
      7. Pancho
        Pancho 20 July 2016 22: 00
        +1
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Do you doubt that Putin is doing something not in Russia's interests?

        I doubt it. A Bangladesh loan of 11 billion dollars, Medvedev, Chubais, Serdyukov, Vasilyev, Mutko, etc. etc. Construction of a nuclear power plant for Turkey, assistance to NATO in Afghanistan, a truce in Syria, pr @ ser Ukraine (though at least the Crimea was frozen), the fall of prom. production, a continuous rise in prices, news that begins with oil prices. A beggarly pension, education, medicine ... Fortunately, at least Shoigu put things in order in the army.
      8. garnik64
        garnik64 21 July 2016 00: 19
        +2
        So far, by his actions, he has driven Russia into a dead end. It is not possible to forget Serdyukov, the oligarchs (who made their fortunes on raw materials exported abroad.) Who brought him to power. The only right thing is Crimea and exchanged it for Kievan Rus. And she did still Russian.
    2. 2224460
      2224460 20 July 2016 13: 57
      +4
      I would like to trust the president and know that we need this. That this meeting will be used in the interests of Russia.
      I agree with you, this is politics and Turkey is not the last player in its region, but I don’t think it will be the same as before. Trust is such a thing, I lost it once again not to be returned.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 20 July 2016 14: 12
        +3
        Quote: 2224460
        Confidence such a thing, lost once no longer return.
        In the morning, an article "How to check Erdogan's sincerity?" Was posted on VO, then he did not comment, but if the underdog himself is going to Russia ..
        In short, Erdogan should be taken to the nearest regional department (maybe even to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the airport "Vnukovo", so as not to go far), for a heart-to-heart conversation with operational officers. There are many ways to check the sincerity of the subject and the degree of his remorse, believe me. bully
        1. sunzhenets
          sunzhenets 20 July 2016 14: 17
          +3
          it is necessary to deliver Erdogan to the nearest regional department (maybe even to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the airport "Vnukovo", so as not to go far)

          Where he will write a confession.
          I like your suggestion.
        2. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 20 July 2016 15: 12
          -1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          In short, Erdogan should be taken to the nearest regional department (maybe even to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the airport "Vnukovo", so as not to go far), for a heart-to-heart conversation with operational officers. There are many ways to check the sincerity of the subject and the degree of his remorse, believe me. bully


          With the traditional way for our bodies to interrogate suspect Erdogan? Fist in the liver, wat with ammonia in a gas mask, telephone wires to the testicles, a bottle of champagne in a ... soul? It would be funny.
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 20 July 2016 15: 28
            0
            Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
            With the method of interrogation that is traditional for our bodies .. a bottle of champagne in a ... soul?
            So I understand that you, Mikhail, regularly experience such methods of interrogation, since you show thorough knowledge of the "traditional ways" of obtaining information by police officers? Now from prison, right, write?
        3. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 20 July 2016 16: 30
          +2
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          In short, Erdogan should be taken to the nearest regional department

          Andrei, Erdogan, of course, S.V.O.L.O.O.H. and ghoul, but this is the height of cruelty. He really still has to stay, and stolen oil will not help ... yes
        4. evge-malyshev
          evge-malyshev 20 July 2016 16: 34
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          There are many ways to check the sincerity of the subject and the degree of his repentance, believe me.


          I think this is overkill. But it doesn't hurt to talk about the "Turkish stream".
      2. Vita vko
        Vita vko 20 July 2016 14: 42
        +11
        City and specific date are being specified
        It would be great to have a meeting in Sevastopol!
    3. maiman61
      maiman61 20 July 2016 16: 05
      +2
      And how many thousands of Russians killed dill in the Donbass? Also surname please! And who is the enemy?
    4. g1v2
      g1v2 20 July 2016 17: 07
      +8
      Peshkov and Pozynich were military personnel and died for their homeland. For her interests and those of her citizens. If, as a result of the events, we will pull Turkey out of the United States and strengthen our positions in the world and in the BV, then they did not die in vain. soldier
      1. garnik64
        garnik64 21 July 2016 00: 59
        -1
        Russia once again saved Turkey from death at the beginning of the 20th century. And that Turkey became a friend? As it was an enemy, it will remain so, because it has views over all the territories where the Turkic ethnic group lives. Nazarbayev also dreams of uniting all Turkic peoples.


        It is a pity that Russian politicians are not able to create at least an ephemeral union of the Slavs. This is a force.
    5. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 20 July 2016 17: 43
      0
      Kremlin press service: Putin will meet with Erdogan in Russia
      let it fly through Smolensk ...
    6. Allitet
      Allitet 20 July 2016 22: 30
      0
      "Do not spit in the well, it will come in handy
      Drink water. "
      I.A. Krylov "The Lion and the Mouse". Who is Leo now, and who is Mouse you guess !!!
  2. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 20 July 2016 13: 51
    +4
    Well, what else will this "violent" partner "throw out"?
    Of course, relations with Turkey need to be established, but with such a leader ... it will be difficult.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 20 July 2016 14: 03
      +1
      Quote: x.andvlad
      Well, what else will this "violent" ally "throw out"?



      Well, after all, yesterday there was information that the creation of an alliance between Russia, Turkey and Iran was brewing ...

      Damn ... I don’t even know what to say about this ... I have such an alliance associated with the fact that Russia (as a person - naked, naked) crawls into a glass cube-room with a kara-kurt and gyursa in it. ..

      Truly, you need to be a fakir to tame these allies and make them dance to your tune ...
  3. Abbra
    Abbra 20 July 2016 13: 55
    +4
    Indiscreetly express such an idea ... But I propose that the GDP, after diplomatic greetings, read to Erdogan, as a historical excursion, a letter from the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan ...
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 20 July 2016 17: 06
      +2
      Then "to the heap" and the original text after:
      Ty, Sultan, Turkish devil, i damn devil sin and brother, secretary of Lucifer himself. If you are on the verge of a fool, if you naked with .. what kind of a fellow you will not drive ?! Damn tee, Via your face. Won't you be a bitch, a bastard of Christians, you are a mother, we won’t be afraid of yours, we will fight with the earth and water with you, hostility to the curses of the blue! Razpronoyob your ..at! Babylonian you choking, Macedonian chariot, Jerusalem bravirnik, Alexander goat, Great and Little Egypt pig, Armenian villain, Tatarsky sagaidak, Kamenets kat, have all the light and have fun, and we have it ... Pig muzzle, mare shit .., a dog, a non-baptismal forehead, well, your mother .. about. From such a way, Zaporizhzhy was seen to be more plump. Thou shalt not be pigs of the Christian mouth. Now, of course, most of the time I don’t know the calendar i don’t have, month is not in the sky, year is down, and such a day is with us, like you have, for the best of luck ... us! ..

      They wrote: Koshey ataman Ivan Sirko Zo all the money Zaporizhzhya
  4. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 20 July 2016 13: 56
    +14
    But the farm laborer of Abram found himself in a difficult situation - you’ll go to the left to lose the horse, to the right you will lose your health. Will give Gulen face lose, will not give Turkey, at least the relationship will be sharply complicated. We stock up on popcorn and wait.
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 20 July 2016 15: 03
      0
      Give Gullen. Do not go to the grandmother. The Batrak Abramitch of the Güllen School uses the CIA as a network of agents for introducing / influencing the CIA. Their loss is costly, but not critical. Moreover, the schools themselves will not immediately disappear. There is someone who, so to speak, will pick up the flag from weakened hands.
      In general, in terms of duplicity, Bardak still has that shot: And Gbllen lives happily with him, and Erdogan's nephew in the same place in a T-shirt "I love Erdogan" and with placards in support of his beloved uncle walks. At the gate of the territory of the Güllen residence))))
      1. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 20 July 2016 19: 40
        0
        Give Gullen. Do not go to the grandmother


        Meaning? Although there is. First bargain that the death penalty will not be introduced. They won’t give up without it.
  5. xant
    xant 20 July 2016 13: 58
    +7
    That's right, we have a lot of questions, for example, about the closure of the Incirlik NATO base, about the policy in Syria, about the South Stream, so there is something to talk about and a good time.
    PS: as the president said, he won’t get off with tomatoes alone!
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 20 July 2016 14: 03
    +4
    Yeah ... an interesting spread in the history of TURKEY and RUSSIA ... there will still be roofing felts, I don’t know what to say.
    The undoubtedly violent disposition of ERDOGAN and his ability to hit us in the back with a scimitar (figuratively speaking) has settled in me the deepest distrust of him in principle.

    However, it is in the interests of RUSSIA (after the well-known events in TURKEY) to make TURKEY, if not an ally, then at least a predictable partner.

    But in any case, we need to remember the unpredictability of the Turks against RUSSIA and keep a good club behind us to sober up the most violent Turks.
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 20 July 2016 15: 07
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      we need to remember the unpredictability of the Turks against RUSSIA and keep a good club behind us to sober up the most violent Turks.


      Yes, we, in fact, do not get used ...

      “The Russian and Ottoman empires have never been good neighbors. Throughout history, they fought each other twelve times, including the First World War, as a result of which both empires ceased to exist.
      Wars were fought for the Black Sea lands and the Caucasus, for the rights of Christians on the territory of the Ottoman Empire, for control over the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles. Russia also considered the possibility of taking Constantinople. On average, one Russian-Turkish war was separated from another by about 20 years. "
      1. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN 20 July 2016 15: 49
        0
        Japan received from the US nuclear club on the head. It has eclipsed all wars. And nothing, friends. The world is changing.....
  7. Wolka
    Wolka 20 July 2016 14: 04
    +3
    Nicherta I don’t understand, first the "Turkish stream" and friendship forever, then the shot down Su-24, sanctions with "tomatoes", then a bluff on the phone and again love-carrots, now a meeting at the "arena", how would you like to understand all this ... Well, at least Zakharova said something
    1. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 20 July 2016 14: 08
      +5
      The opposition opposition preacher Gulen, who lives in the United States, whose extradition Erdogan is seeking, is lying, what has nothing to do with it?

      - This is another American "column", which, of course, is also used. Here is what my source wrote in his last message for tonight (and we communicated right now, on the night of July 20):

      "They (Putin and Erdogan) must meet as soon as possible. We all talk about this meeting. The United States did everything and is doing to prevent it. Including a coup so that the leaders do not talk. We (the Eurasians of Turkey) we see salvation for the country in this meeting with Putin. " I hope that the repression will not affect my expert, and he, together with other Turks, will be with us at the Eurasian conference in Ankara immediately after the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Turkey. Today there is more and more talk about leaving NATO. Erdogan is better off following this path and becoming the Islamic Hugo Chavez. Otherwise, you will have to prepare for the next overthrow attempts.

      http://pda.kp.ru/daily/26557/3573608/
    2. armata37
      armata37 20 July 2016 14: 11
      +8
      This is politics. Trust is distrust, but Turkey is an important player in the "hot region" and it is not correct not to have at least some interaction and dialogue with it.

      Now they will be minus again, but just meeting with Erdogan on their territory is already something in the interests of Russia.
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    4. pigkiller
      pigkiller 20 July 2016 14: 15
      +1
      Soon we will know almost everything. Conversation of GDP with RTE will be very difficult.
      1. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 20 July 2016 19: 46
        0
        Soon we will know almost everything. Conversation of GDP with RTE will be very difficult.

        We don’t know much. Now Erdogan can be achieved so that he does not run into Assad. And in Syria too. Tomatoes are tomatoes; geopolitics is geopolitics.
    5. xant
      xant 20 July 2016 14: 15
      +1
      , as you command all to understand.- this means that the cap was put in its place not by a little canopy and now the conditions will dictate senior comrades laughing about how to live on bully a joke though in every joke .... well, if seriously it was not necessary to sit on two chairs ala Yanukovych, otherwise he wanted to be in NATA in dreams and the partners behind the "river" had completely different plans, so I got what I got. now .. now read the joke above!
    6. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 20 July 2016 14: 25
      +1
      Quote: Volka
      as you command me to understand ...


      As a Chinese wish "from the heart": "I wish you to live in an era of change!"
    7. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 20 July 2016 15: 27
      +5
      Quote: Volka
      I don't understand nicherta, first "Turkish stream" and friendship forever, then shot down Su-24, sanctions with "tomatoes", then bluff on the phone and again love-carrots


      This is the East ... treachery and betrayal there in the blood, absorbed in mother's milk. I am sure that in our Foreign Ministry they take these aspects into account and calculate everything. It is very interesting what kind of concessions GDP will push Erdogan.
      I anticipate the angry screams: "Putin shed! Forgot the shot down SU-24! Heroes died in vain!"

      PS I assure you - no one leaked and the pilots (and marines) did not forget.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 20 July 2016 17: 02
        +1
        Quote: Corsair0304 This is the East ... treachery and betrayal there in the blood, absorbed in mother's milk.

        And, even in the East, they thank for saving life or honor. Try to answer the same. It is in the blood.
  8. erased
    erased 20 July 2016 14: 18
    +11
    The Turks killed our pilots, marines, and scouts. Themselves or hands lured bandits. Turks showered Russian with mud, mixed them with shit. They kissed Bandera for a reason, they still sponsor the Tatar enclave in Kherson.
    And now they send our tourists to them, give the "green light" to their goods, invite them to visit.
    If this is politics, then this is shitty politics. If geopolitical interests become higher than the blood and life of their citizens, to hell with such geopolitics. Each time stepping over his people, the authorities do everything to hate her.
    1. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 20 July 2016 16: 26
      -1
      Who sends them tourists? The ban was lifted, the herd broke itself, not by force.
      What is turning something? It turns me off from the Germans, the deceased grandfather told me, from the Japanese, the second grandfather fought.

      How much can you write about this already? Negroes just didn’t climb to us, pound the rest of them all, piss and poke them?
  9. DenZ
    DenZ 20 July 2016 14: 19
    +1
    Quote: Volka
    Nicherta I don’t understand, first the "Turkish stream" and friendship forever, then the shot down Su-24, sanctions with "tomatoes", then a bluff on the phone and again love-carrots, now a meeting at the "arena", how would you like to understand all this ... Well, at least Zakharova said something

    This is understood as the historical development of events. But what conclusions to draw from such a development of events is a completely different question. However, we will soon see (after the meeting between Putin and Erdogan and after the US reaction to the extradition of Gulen).
  10. demiurg
    demiurg 20 July 2016 14: 27
    -2
    Turkey is on the drum for us (well, actually, all that it can offer we can get in one way or another). We are only interested in the straits, but they will be under any authority. But the Turks need us, and very much. This begs the question, what can Erdogan offer Russia to gloss over his sins? And do we need it, to get in touch with the one who craps us everywhere wherever he can?
    In addition to the southern stream and Armenia with Azerbaijan, it will not be useful anywhere.
    1. Yaushev Artyom
      Yaushev Artyom 20 July 2016 22: 47
      0
      Cooperation with Azerbaijan of Russia is just necessary, both in the transportation of our goods to Iran, and in the field of arms, tourism
  11. masiya
    masiya 20 July 2016 14: 34
    -1
    It’s clear what city for the meeting it’s half a kick from Sochi, and what they’ll be fooling about there, then most likely ours will require special security guarantees for tourists from Russia, and special status for our travel agencies, and about South Stream or the nuclear power plant , as God puts the soul, and trade in the first place with the supply of products also requires certain guarantees and quality and assortment.
    1. agent rossii
      agent rossii 20 July 2016 15: 31
      +1
      you are the president of r f mixed up with the Minister of Commerce hi
  12. 96423lom
    96423lom 20 July 2016 14: 46
    0
    It can be seen as hot, but from the allies there are already no promises.
  13. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 20 July 2016 14: 46
    +4
    Quote: Garri_
    ..Putin does everything in the interests of his environment ..
    It’s interesting, but the population of Russia, its Army and Navy — in your NOT circle of Putin?

    Quote: stas
    In the interests of the banking and market elite of Russia, he does everything at the expense of impoverishing citizens.
    And it would be better on the contrary.

    But what does the meeting with Erdogan have to do with it, will he bring tomatoes for impoverished citizens for nothing?
    Why was there no indignation in September last year when Putin met with Abama, or he is the best friend of Russia, or expected some positive results?
    So why, now having read about the meeting with Erdogan, were so sweetened up? What do you already know in advance the list of issues to be discussed, or do you know the outcome of the meeting, what kind of negative do you expect?
  14. Vadim237
    Vadim237 20 July 2016 14: 55
    +2
    It will be great if, at the time of this meeting, another, steeper coup takes place in Turkey, with the release of all those who were detained while trying the first.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 20 July 2016 19: 44
      0
      Quote: Vadim237
      it will be great if at the time of this meeting in Turkey another, more abrupt coup takes place, with the release of all those who were detained while trying the first

      Will not be! 100% sure!
    2. g1v2
      g1v2 20 July 2016 20: 02
      +1
      What is healthy then? The putschs were clearly not homies to us - they were one hundred percent pro-American. Well, do they tell us their victory? Erdogash is the closest major politician in Turkey to us. Well, yes, with ... n son, but at the moment it is our s ... n son. Come on, Erdogash, do not spare ammunition and shells. The more the Turkish army is weakened, the more the southern flank of NATO as a whole will weaken. soldier
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 20 July 2016 20: 39
        0
        Just for the better - these coupists were against the Islamization of Turkey and against military operations with the Kurds. And perhaps with their coming to power, Turkey would cease to be a recreation center for terrorists.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 20 July 2016 22: 13
          +1
          Question If we get along well with the Islamic Ayatollah regime in Iran, then why can't we get along with the much less religious regime in Turkey? And why are Kurds so sweet to us if most of them walk under mattresses and try to tear off a piece of the country from our friend Assad? belay And as for the recreation center, it became such a long time before Erdogan - just with the military. Beginning of the 90s - Turks send militants to Karabakh, 94-96 years - to Chechnya. Erdogan did not smell then - the authorities were admirers of Ataturk, which is not a secular person. And the militants were not sent everywhere, but specifically to us. The putschists wanted to return to these times, if, if what the Iranian media say is true, then ours did absolutely right that they warned Erdogan. repeat
  15. Garri_
    Garri_ 20 July 2016 15: 01
    -7
    But what does the meeting with Erdogan have to do with it, will he bring tomatoes for impoverished citizens for nothing?
    Why was there no indignation in September last year when Putin met with Abama, or he is the best friend of Russia, or expected some positive results?
    So why, now having read about the meeting with Erdogan, were so sweetened up? What do you already know in advance the list of issues to be discussed, or the outcome of the meeting, what kind of negativity do you expect? [/ Quote]

    ..yes what the hell to us their tomatoes, eat them yourself for "health", we have enough of our own, only they are not allowed to get to the counter .. and what does Barack have to do with it, they found another friend, he never was .. mixed everything is in one pile, but in essence the question ... you cannot forgive everything so quickly, even half a year has passed, and our leadership has already forgotten all their statements, and immediately into the "embrace" ... (.. and then they made the minuses. . probably "personal friends" .. even funny ..)
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 20 July 2016 15: 55
      +1
      we have enough of our own, but they are not allowed to reach the counter ..
      I wonder who in our country is responsible for the migration of tomatoes?
  16. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 20 July 2016 15: 05
    -2
    Big mistake. To say the least.
  17. masiya
    masiya 20 July 2016 15: 23
    +1
    Yes, minus how much in vain it is evidently very concerned ... he knows what the line is, because there are no specifics, neither in comments nor in the media
  18. Garri_
    Garri_ 20 July 2016 15: 30
    -1
    [quote = avg-mgn][quote = Garri _] .. Putin does everything in the interests of his entourage .. [/ quote] It’s interesting, but the population of Russia, its Army and Navy — in your NOT circle of Putin?

    [quote = stas] In the interests of the banking and market elite of Russia, he does everything at the expense of impoverishing citizens.
    And it would be better on the contrary. [/ Quote]


    .. earlier when I served in the Army there was such a saying that during a year of service a soldier loses 4% of his mind wink , I wonder how many percent that "admiral" has left in order not to understand what "Putin's entourage" and the population of Russia with its Army and Navy are .. good ??
  19. volot-voin
    volot-voin 20 July 2016 15: 30
    +10
    Erdogan himself got a knife in the back from overseas friends. Now he has one way to negotiate with the Russian Federation.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 July 2016 17: 01
      -2
      He had to put on the counter to pay compensation for the downed Su 24 - one day of delay - a billion rubles.
  20. zenith
    zenith 20 July 2016 15: 36
    +2
    Quote: hirurg
    So Erdogan great pinned.
    After all, I didn’t jump to Obama, so the vector of his policy is changing.
    But you need to keep your ears open.

    Yes, the vector has changed and the man is apparently too. To the one whom everyone knows what is the name, they know better, in all matters special. From a non-handshake and accomplice of all organizations prohibited in the Russian Federation, Erdogan moved back to partners. He is like that of the cartoon. Do not growl, but I'll bite. They flew, they flew, he took the simpleton and knocked him down, he was immediately exposed. Previously, he certainly wasn’t an accomplice, there was nothing to expose. And he shot down, they all immediately saw the light, grind. Now they waved the carrot again, and he took and won the bracelet with a snake. Slave! Ahhh - this is me yawning. It used to be funny to watch, now it’s yawning.
  21. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 20 July 2016 15: 40
    +7
    South Stream, nuclear power plants, tourism, tomatoes, the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles - all this lies on the surface. But we must also take into account that a large offensive is now brewing in Syria just in the region of the 98-kilometer border zone with Turkey. And much depends on how the Turks (the army and the leadership) behave during the offensive - starting from direct losses and ending with the time period for the elimination of the Basmachi group located in that area. But Bardak as a sickle for ya..tsam early restoration of peace in Syria and the strengthening of Assad.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 20 July 2016 17: 05
      -1
      Quote: Corsair0304
      South Stream, nuclear power plants, tourism, tomatoes, the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles - all this lies on the surface. But we must also take into account that a large offensive is now brewing in Syria just in the region of the 98-kilometer border zone with Turkey. And much depends on how the Turks (the army and the leadership) behave during the offensive - starting from direct losses and ending with the time period for the elimination of the Basmachi group located in that area. But Bardak as a sickle for ya..tsam early restoration of peace in Syria and the strengthening of Assad.

      That's right, Bashar and Russia in Syria need to seize the moment and deal a devastating blow to the devil ... Turkey is not up to Syria now, there are elections in the USA ..! It seems to me that Bandera will launch an offensive during the Olympics in Rio .. (remember 08.08.08 everything is according to the pattern) I hope ours are preparing hard not only for the Olympics ..
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 July 2016 17: 07
      0
      "South Stream, Nuclear Power Plant, Tourism" - All this has already flown by, along with the tomatoes. And Bardak Obama doesn't care what will happen in Syria - in November he will be kicked in the ass from the White House - Hillary or Trump.
  22. soroKING
    soroKING 20 July 2016 15: 48
    0
    Quote: hirurg
    So Erdogan great pinned.
    After all, I didn’t jump to Obama, so the vector of his policy is changing.
    But you need to keep your ears open.

    this Yaydorgan finger in the mouth do not put, instantly suck am
  23. nrex
    nrex 20 July 2016 16: 17
    +1
    Eh, Erdogash !!! I took a cudgel on the overseas admonitions of my NATO friends and lost such a market and partner. I caught myself, but the train left. In order for the golden shower to go again, you will have to work three times. Who would believe a traitor who shoots in the back? Your generals, traitors, are all hooked by Uncle Sam. In general, my dear fellow, you robbed yourself and your people. Shift a little, a sniper's bullet, poison or cancer with explosives from your "friends" is already waiting for you. There is no such game on both sides.
  24. Khariton
    Khariton 20 July 2016 17: 16
    +4
    Note the meeting will be in Russia! In fact, Erdogan will come to bow to Putin, pressed the Osman specifically and his ambition against Russia has obviously diminished! You can't believe him, but as the saying goes, "You need to keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer .." ...
    1. Gamer
      Gamer 20 July 2016 18: 30
      +1
      Erdogan wised up - eco it was overlaid on all sides and a coup under the window.
      And Russia, do not forget where to buy bulk carriers, transport troops to Syria.
  25. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 20 July 2016 17: 34
    +2
    USA got everyone ... everyone wants predictability in its foreign policy.
  26. Yak28
    Yak28 20 July 2016 17: 42
    0
    Firstly, it is interesting on whose initiative a meeting is planned, and secondly, Turkey is a NATO country in whose territory NATO military bases are located, and therefore Turkey is our potential enemy.
  27. sa-ag
    sa-ag 20 July 2016 17: 45
    0
    A noteworthy fact, however, Erdogan, like Goebbels, staged a "purge of Hercules" in 1944, quarreled with everyone, and obviously needs some kind of support and lo and behold - he finds it, where they said that he - Erdogan stabbed him in the back with a knife, amazing Tolstoyism of the new era - "stabbed you in your left back, substitute your right," or the Russian Federation imposed by sanctions, now an anti-doping scandal, initiated with the aim of sowing dissatisfaction with the policy of a person whose name cannot be named, is something similar to the situation with Turkey?
    1. Gamer
      Gamer 20 July 2016 18: 34
      +1
      Erdogan knows how to put up, last year with Israel, tomorrow with a man whose name cannot be called.
  28. guzik007
    guzik007 20 July 2016 17: 50
    0
    Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are.
    1. Aljavad
      Aljavad 21 July 2016 04: 01
      +1
      guzik007 (7) RU Yesterday, 17:50
      Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are.


      In big politics there are no constant friends and constant enemies. Only national interests are permanent.
  29. Nix1986
    Nix1986 20 July 2016 18: 04
    0
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Conflicts/status/755741839915900928
    The action takes place during the day, which means after the night putsch. They claim that this is already the government f16 bombing the demonstration. More and more sure that Erdogan staged a performance.
  30. Gamer
    Gamer 20 July 2016 18: 13
    +1
    Putin’s right move, and where to go, the Russian Federation has no allies, now, for a while there will be no enemy in the South. good
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 20 July 2016 18: 30
      -1
      Quote: Gamer
      Putin’s right move, and where to go, the Russian Federation has no allies, now, for a while there will be no enemy in the South. good

      Russia’s allies in most countries in the world ... They’re just afraid! By the way, this is the majority of the world's population!
      1. Gamer
        Gamer 20 July 2016 18: 38
        +1
        Africa all sorts of blackheads .. e, nevshot, they then have a GDP of 100 rubles and the influence of zero. It is gratifying that China is painted over in white. But then a wise monkey sitting on top of a hill ..
  31. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 20 July 2016 20: 08
    0
    Erdogan gave the order to destroy our pilots. They were destroyed. Now Erdogan will go to visit Putin. And what is there to comment on? Oh, I forgot! .. "Tricky plan"! Or not, "multi-pass". It all smacks of blasphemy ...
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 20 July 2016 22: 52
      +2
      Quote: Old Fuck
      "A tricky plan"! Or not, "multi-move". It all smacks of blasphemy ...

      I apologize, your author, exhaustively characterizes your thinking abilities. repeat
    2. RUS69
      RUS69 20 July 2016 23: 09
      +2
      Try to look a little further away from your nose and the picture will immediately clear up.
      There is a real risk of gaining another zone of instability on the border with Syria ... then more than one of our soldiers will die there ... In Turkey, things are not so simple in relations between the military and the ruling elite, they had coups more often in the days of the USSR prayers. The military there had a great influence and did not want to lose it when the power became secular. When 60% of the generals against the government it is still not clear who gives the orders.
      Turkey is such a boiler in which it is better not to delve into without special knowledge.
      The death of our pilots is a tragedy, and if a meeting with Erdogan helps clarify the details and help prevent such incidents in the future, they simply refuse and are not far-sighted. The USA was leaked to Erdogash, and the meeting itself does not oblige us to anything.
  32. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 20 July 2016 22: 48
    0
    Probably, he will ask for a villa from the GDP, next to Yanyk, because pi - sies do not forgive rams that jumped from the spell. After all, rams, under the impression of fear of death, can say a lot to the savior.
  33. RUS69
    RUS69 20 July 2016 22: 54
    +1
    Judging by the latest news, "Russian intelligence warned Turkey about the impending coup" and thereby saved his life. He has nowhere else to go.
    And we would not like Erdogan is the best of the worst that can happen now in this country.
    And they wanted to merge it is a fact !!!!!
  34. Aljavad
    Aljavad 21 July 2016 03: 56
    +1
    Great art is to make friends out of enemies.