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A report prepared by lawyer Richard McLaren reports that “the government, special services and sports agencies” of Russia are involved in a “conspiracy” to conceal the “widespread use of doping in most summer and winter sports.” The IOC swears that it will not prevent the imposition of "hard sanctions" against those involved in the violations identified. About the report of the Canadian McLaren writes the entire world press - from Canada and the United States to Eurasia.




According to the Canadian edition "The Globe and Mail", if Russia is “banned” at the Olympics in Rio, it can shake the very foundations of the Olympic Games.

The “exceptional” step in the likely removal of the Russian team from the Games in Rio was made by eminent Canadian lawyer Richard McLaren. His Monday morning report (July 18) was known in advance. The report includes the results of a lawyer’s own investigation of the “enterprise” of the Russian government, which “systematically” concealed the doping program. Moreover, this program was “sponsored by the state”. It was at the Winter Olympics in Sochi.

It is stated that Mr. Rodchenkov, who headed the anti-doping laboratory in Sochi in 2014, admitted to the newspaper The New York Times that he was ordered to replace the “dirty” urine tests of leading Russian athletes with “pure” ones. And then more than ten people from among these athletes received medals.

And now, the IOC has a keenly classic question: “What to do?”

In a major magazine "Foreign Policy" (USA) published an article under the huge black headline "New Doping Report Means Russia Could be Barred From Rio".

The article states that the Russian team may not be allowed to attend the Olympics in Rio because of the new scandalous report. Richard Maclaren has no doubt that doping was widely used in the Russian Federation. He does not have the slightest doubt.

The particular acuteness of the situation is that this lawyer made scandalous conclusions just a month before the start of the Rio Summer Olympics. In fact, this only increased the international pressure on Russia: the world community already requires a ban on Russia from participating in the games.

The head of the US Anti-Doping Agency, Travis Tygart, who learned about the new evidence, experienced, in his own words, “shock” and “outrage”.

IOC President Thomas Bach said that, according to the findings of the report, the reputation of the sport and the Olympic Games was dealt a "shocking and unprecedented blow." He said that the IOC will take "tough measures" against the persons or organizations mentioned in the report.

Now the International Olympic Committee is deciding whether to ban Russia from participating in the games completely, or just expand the list of athletes who will be denied the right to participate.

The report details the measures that the Ministry of Sport of the Russian Federation took not only to introduce to athletes drugs that increase their capabilities, but to create a system for concealing doping by replacing samples in state laboratories.

As for the reaction of Russia, then, as the newspaper notes, it denies all accusations. Meanwhile, the speaker gives a table from which it is clear that athletes have taken doping for a long period of time.

In a major British newspaper «The Guardian» An article was published under the heading "Russia orchestrated state-sponsored doping cover-up, says Wada report". The material speaks of the “sponsorship” role of the state in the “orchestration” of the doping score. Attorney Richard Maclaren found evidence of the existence of the Russian state doping program in many sports.

The newspaper calls the lawyer's report “a devastating report,” which vividly showed how the Russian government, its special services, and sports agencies participated in a “conspiracy” to conceal the “widespread use of doping in most summer and winter sports.” Horrified by the report, the IOC swore that it would not prevent the “most severe sanctions” against those individuals who were involved in the revealed violations.

The report of Mr. McLaren allowed to establish, the newspaper writes that the “large-scale actions” of the state helped to hide the facts of the use of doping preparations in preparation for the Summer Olympic Games in London.

The speaker pointed to efforts to cover doping at the World University Games in Kazan (2013) and at the Winter Olympics in Sochi (2014).

According to McLaren, many athletes in the Russian Federation followed the program, which the lawyer himself defined as “systematic concealment of positive samples” for doping. The lawyer concluded that such a program has the status of a “state policy”: it became such after the failure of athletes from the Russian Federation at the Winter Olympics in Vancouver (2010).

In such a program involved, said the lawyer, government agencies. Among them are the Ministry of Sport of Russia, the FSB, the Center for sports training of national teams, and other departments. Maclaren is convinced that the leading figure in the doping program was Deputy Sports Minister Y. Nagornykh (the man appointed to the post by order of V. Putin).

The lawyer said that in his conclusions he was “absolutely sure”, because he considered only evidence in respect of which he “had no doubts”.

However, McLaren eliminated any unambiguous statements about the dismissal of Russian athletes from the Olympics in Rio. He does not believe that he is authorized to do this. Let the competent persons study the materials, draw conclusions and decide, the lawyer said.

According to the newspaper, WADA really does not have the authority to deprive any country of the right to participate in the Olympic Games. However, it may recommend to the IOC to apply appropriate sanctions.

The journalist “The Guardian” believes that in the coming days, demands for the removal of Russian athletes from the Olympics will be louder and louder. The article also recalls that in June, 2016 of the IAAF (International Association of Athletics Federations, International Association of Athletics Federations) suspended athletes from the Russian Federation from the Olympics in Rio. A decision is expected on the appeal of the Arbitration Court of Sports in Lausanne: his decision will be announced on Thursday this week.

And another event, which became the "echo" of the report.

As 19 learned in July, the Investigation Chamber of the International Federation of Football Ethics Committee will fully examine the WADA report. About it TASS said the representative of the investigative chamber of the FIFA ethics committee, Roman Gaiser.

"The Investigation Chamber of the FIFA Ethics Committee will take into account the report of WADA and fully study it," Gaiser said. - If the report turns out to be evidence of violations of the FIFA ethical code, the investigative chamber will take appropriate measures. At the moment we can’t give more comments on the WADA report. ”

The reaction of Russia to the report of a Canadian lawyer also became known. Mr. Ulyukayev spoke on the sports theme.

The Minister of Economic Development of Russia believes that the report of the Commission of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) testifies to the distrust of this organization to Russia and "reflects a certain political line." He stated this in an interview with the Japanese television channel NHK. "In their [WADA] activities, this is a completely wrong form, because there is a departure from the fundamental position of law, personal responsibility," he said. "Lenta.ru". “If a person is guilty of violations, then he is responsible.”

According to Ulyukaev, there should not be a mutual guarantee in the issue of doping, when the entire team is responsible for breaking the rules with one athlete.

Ранее "BBC" reported that Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev suspended the post of Deputy Sports Minister Yuri Nagorny in connection with the publication of the report.

“Medvedev signed a decree on the temporary dismissal of the Deputy Minister of Sport Yury Nagornyy until the end of the service audit in connection with the published WADA report on the involvement of officials in the doping scandal in Russia,” the press secretary Natalia Timakova quotes the TV and Radio Company.

There is also a statement by V. V. Putin, published on the Kremlin site July 18 evening.

The president is confident that now there is a "dangerous recurrence of policy intervention in the sport." “Yes, the forms of such interference have changed, but the essence is the same: to make sport an instrument of geopolitical pressure, to form a negative image of countries and peoples,” Putin said. “The Olympic movement, which plays a colossal unifying role for humanity, may once again be on the verge of a split.”

“Today, the so-called“ doping scandals ”went on, attempting to extend sanctions for the identified cases of doping to all, including“ clean ”athletes under the guise of supposedly protecting their interests. And this is despite the fact that, unlike the same 80s, athletes today undergo the most severe total doping control both during the competition and during the entire training cycle. And in the last six months, all Russian athletes underwent an anti-doping test on the recommendation of WADA under the control of the British anti-doping agency and in foreign anti-doping laboratories. ”


According to Putin, there is no place for doping in sports, since doping is “a threat to the health and life of athletes, discrediting fair sports wrestling.” The president noted that in Russia “this evil” is being consistently eradicated.

* * *


Russia believes that doping scandals pursue a certain political goal and that sport has become “an instrument of geopolitical pressure, a negative image of countries and peoples,” and WADA argues that the use of doping in Russia is systematic and occurs with the active participation of officials from the Ministry of Sports and people from the FSB. Obviously, in this situation, Russia is waiting for a well-known “isolation” line, not only in politics, but also in sports.

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  1. Vend
    Vend 19 July 2016 10: 43
    +42
    But I’m wondering what kind of milldonia at the Sochi Olympics can be discussed, if then it was not banned. Yes, if you take samples of 1990 of the year around the world, it will be possible to deprive every second rank. Mattresses think that they will be able to split Russia through sport, it will turn out the other way around. We will unite even more, due to an unfair decision.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 July 2016 10: 48
      +16
      Quote: Wend
      what kind of milildonia at the Sochi Olympics can be discussed, if then it was not banned.

      They don't give a damn; politics rules the sport. SchA even before the 2008 year get.
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 19 July 2016 10: 56
        +36
        Quote: Wend
        We will unite even more, due to an unfair decision.

        And what is unfair? Do not dope! Doping? Do not get caught!
        It is believed that all countries use doping. Those. all snout in fluff. Why are our in response can not promote the same topic against Western countries? Are your arms short? You are sitting there in your own special services - what are you doing there then? Military intelligence, sports is not your profile? Then do not make sport the banner of the nation - treat it like nonsense, a game.
        1. Vend
          Vend 19 July 2016 11: 14
          +8
          Quote: Alex_59
          Quote: Wend
          We will unite even more, due to an unfair decision.

          And what is unfair? Do not dope! Doping? Do not get caught!
          It is believed that all countries use doping. Those. all snout in fluff. Why are our in response can not promote the same topic against Western countries? Are your arms short? You are sitting there in your own special services - what are you doing there then? Military intelligence, sports is not your profile? Then do not make sport the banner of the nation - treat it like nonsense, a game.

          A large half of doping bans appears with the development of science. What was allowed by 1980 is already prohibited in 2000. Reviewing past results is not just not fair, it's mean. Why bother refuting fabricated cases? If they defend themselves, then they are to blame. But Russian athletes are not to blame. And so it is visible a mile away that the case is fabricated. A couple more organizations will be liquidated over time, as they are not capable of independently resolving issues.
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 19 July 2016 12: 34
            -3
            Putin himself reacted to the removal of the Russian Olympic team.
            He reacted almost immediately.
            First of all, it should be perceived as a signal. A signal that there will be an answer.
            And what it will be expressed in is unknown.
            Everything is possible - from trade and economic measures to military events (say in the Donbass).

            PS
            As the song sings:
            If these devils have crossed the line,
            I will put things in order in hell.
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 19 July 2016 12: 45
              +12
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              First of all, it should be perceived as a signal. A signal that there will be an answer.
              And what it will be expressed in is unknown.
              Everything is possible - from trade and economic measures to military events (say in the Donbass).

              I’ll go from here, I feel like I’m reading comments and getting a little dumber.
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 19 July 2016 12: 54
                +4
                Quote: Rumata
                I’ll go from here, I feel like I’m reading comments and getting a little dumber.

                And what is stupidity. Is such action a measure of political pressure on Russia?
                Or do you not think so?

                And in your opinion, Russia is, of course, a toothless country that is incapable of retaliatory measures. Brother, aren't you from Echo Moscow for an hour?
              2. B.T.V.
                B.T.V. 19 July 2016 13: 06
                +6
                Quote: Rumata
                I’ll go from here, I feel like I’m reading comments and getting a little dumber.



                My condolences!
              3. Korney84
                Korney84 19 July 2016 13: 50
                +9
                As always...
              4. Korney84
                Korney84 19 July 2016 13: 56
                +6
                Got a taste belay
              5. Dali
                Dali 19 July 2016 16: 56
                0
                Quote: Rumata
                I’ll go from here, I feel like I’m reading comments and getting a little dumber.

                Yes, you are cooler than independent ones, since you just get dumb from just reading ... laughing
            2. Tambov Wolf
              Tambov Wolf 19 July 2016 13: 45
              +1
              Yes, he will call Mutko and say: - "You are this, that ... not that ..." and will reassign from the chief sportsman to the chief physician or chief ambassador.
              1. Achilles
                Achilles 19 July 2016 13: 59
                +1
                It may be for the better if Russia does not participate in the Olympic Games in Brazil, given the Zika virus epidemic (now 100 people have suspected Zika virus) and the threat from uncontrolled banditry. This West wants to deprive us of the Olympics with all its might, and it is not for nothing that there is a saying: "whatever is done, everything is for the best." Imagine if the Zika epidemic really grows, and we will not be there, our athletes and fans will be more intact, and even these uncontrolled bandits who can arrange terrorist attacks.
                And so in general, this West is insolent in general, to deprive the whole country of participating in the Olympic Games, it’s not at any gate.
          2. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 19 July 2016 18: 32
            +1
            Quote: Wend
            A large half of doping bans appear with the development of science

            I thought for a long time, and I think, "professional sports" is a toxic sump ... chemistry rules, whoever got caught is a sucker. something like that. a true amateur sport.
        2. Inok10
          Inok10 19 July 2016 11: 14
          +16
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          They don't give a damn; politics rules the sport. SchA even before the 2008 year get.

          ... in the best traditions of the US State Department ... we have evidence, but we won’t show it to you, since it’s secret ... we heard it from MH17, we heard it from the Aleppo hospital and many other accusations against Russia. .. the idea is simple and not intricate ... the main thing is to shout loudly and in chorus Fire, Fire ... well, there you see that the thread is on fire and hustle ... hi
          Quote: Alex_59
          And what is unfair? Do not dope! Doping? Do not get caught!

          ... besides the words of the odious Rodchenko, is there any evidence? ... no ... we don’t touch the story with meldonium, as everyone can notice, it suddenly came out no ... that is, it was exhausted ... and back to the report of Mr. McLaren, the most interesting moment:
          ... to the direct question of the journalist, does he have any other evidence whatsoever besides the unsubstantiated testimonies of the lonely and odious Rodchenkov, the lawyer generally answers enchantingly: "In addition to Dr. Rodchenkov, we had, let's say, a fairly large number of other witnesses. But I can’t give you their names and positions, as they agreed to testify only in confidence" (with). After that, any professional in the field of law in general has no interest in his document, since all that follows is simply frank fiction. Because the argument “I know everything, but I will not say anything to anyone for objective reasons, and you should simply believe me” cannot be considered in the legal field at all. Do not take the stories about the “FSB officer disguised as a plumber” who replaced the athletes' samples “through a hole in the wall” as a “proof”, sorry, and a drawing of the building indicating where this “hole” was supposedly located. Source: https://cont.ws/post/322476
          ... that is, he openly admits that he has no facts ... since being a lawyer, he understands perfectly well that he will not get out of the courts if he blurts out something that he cannot prove ... well, here is the traditional "bleating" from category: "we assume", "we admit the possibility" ... another bullshit that has no legal basis for the IOC to make any decisions ... there are no facts! ... well, then let's see how the IOC will behave ... hi
          1. Aleksander
            Aleksander 19 July 2016 13: 20
            +3
            Quote: Inok10
            ... we have evidence, but we won’t show it to you,


            That's exactly WHERE THE EVIDENCE OF THE STATE's activity on the protection of doping? There is nothing besides Rodchenkov, as far as I understand Oleg Chuvakin.
            It is a pity that he did not provide at least the basic "evidence" of the "lawyer".
            In these links, too, only Rodchenkov ...
        3. B.T.V.
          B.T.V. 19 July 2016 11: 14
          +6
          Quote: Alex_59
          And what is unfair? Do not dope! Doping? Do not get caught!


          For this to be true, evidence is needed, not statements: "I don't know how they open and change samples, but I know they do it." They also dragged the FSB to the pile, "it used to be the KGB." The mention of the KGB in a speech about doping cannot be called anything other than whipping.
          1. Al1977
            Al1977 19 July 2016 12: 41
            +2
            Quote: B.T.W.
            For this to be fair, evidence is needed.

            For example, what? It’s just interesting, I don’t argue with you, I don’t troll, etc. .. just what would be proof for you?
            1. fennekRUS
              fennekRUS 19 July 2016 12: 59
              +2
              athletes today undergo the most severe total anti-doping control both during the competition and during the entire training cycle. And in the last six months, all Russian athletes have passed an anti-doping test on the recommendation of WADA under the supervision of the British anti-doping agency and in foreign anti-doping laboratories. ” (C)
              Here are the proofs of these checks. And the bleating of a Canadian lawyer ... well, for a long time the psychiatrist was not. PR, in order to raise revenue.
              1. Al1977
                Al1977 19 July 2016 13: 34
                0
                Quote: fennekRUS
                Here are the proofs of these checks.

                So it was the checks that showed the presence of meldonium. The same Sharapova herself admitted this. I have a complaint against them only in terms of the fact that the innocent should go. Dismissing the whole team is just beyond logic. If Medvedev is "sleeping" with us, we do not remove the entire government with the President)))
                1. fennekRUS
                  fennekRUS 19 July 2016 16: 11
                  +3
                  so do not argue. It was about Mr. McLaren, who did not even bother to shake a test tube. But he accused everyone of wholesale and retail. It's time, it's time to hire bison from "Roman law" and start filing claims for such "talkers"
                2. asiat_61
                  asiat_61 20 July 2016 03: 34
                  0
                  If Medvedev is "sleeping" with us, we do not remove the entire government with the President))) ... But it would not hurt !!!
        4. Monarchist
          Monarchist 19 July 2016 11: 44
          0
          In my opinion, we use all means of protection. Where was it that the head of state announced the situation! The maximum would be the Minister of Sports or what kind of governing body is there. The Russian Federation is taking interest-free steps, and you think our smokers are smoking
        5. Homo
          Homo 19 July 2016 11: 56
          +1
          Quote: Alex_59
          And what is unfair? Do not dope! Doping? Do not get caught!

          So the facts are not in the report. No names, no dates, no facts, some general reasoning that everything is bad in Russia!
          1. vpm
            vpm 19 July 2016 15: 45
            +2
            There are facts, there are names, there are details up to the laboratory layout where, according to the researchers, samples and heaps of others were replaced:
            https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/20160718_ip_report_final
            3.pdf
            The report is generally very comprehensive, although prepared in a relatively short time. In general, it contains details that cannot be learned without internal information - Rodchenkov is understandable, but not only he.
            It remains for WADA to demonstrate the same sequence to Western sport: in sports of high achievements, it’s difficult to have drugs that do not improve performance, there is even an opinion that without them the performance in the same athletics would return to the 50-60s of the last century. Well, and besides, I never believe that in the USA, where the fantastically developed pharmaceutical industry is not doping. There are definitely, just ways to administer it and its innovativeness for years, which is exactly statistically ahead of WADA testing procedures. Our caught for the old fashioned way. But our sport has to clean up, there are few options.
            Finally, it is interesting that the Briton "outright" raised half a ton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Y4o_BqC0A
            1. asiat_61
              asiat_61 20 July 2016 03: 37
              0
              The Williams brothers, a good example.
        6. Korney84
          Korney84 19 July 2016 13: 59
          +4
          More facts, even if such evidence is provided wink
        7. Hon
          Hon 19 July 2016 14: 36
          0
          Quote: Alex_59
          And what is unfair? Do not dope! Doping? Do not get caught!
          It is believed that all countries use doping. Those. all snout in fluff. Why are our in response can not promote the same topic against Western countries? Are your arms short? You are sitting there in your own special services - what are you doing there then? Military intelligence, sports is not your profile? Then do not make sport the banner of the nation - treat it like nonsense, a game.

          there are two questions, if there was no doping, what did Mutko apologize for, and why did Putin also acknowledge the existence of doping, saying that it is impossible to ban the performance of all athletes, but only those who were caught?
          and second, why the hell Mutko is the Minister of Sports in general?
        8. Dart2027
          Dart2027 19 July 2016 21: 40
          0
          Quote: Alex_59
          Why ours in response can not promote the same topic against Western countries

          And you read the names of the IOC members, are there many Russians?
        9. Awaz
          Awaz 20 July 2016 06: 42
          0
          At one time, the coach of the Russian national biathlon team spoke simply about the fact that all scaninavians should be sent to compete in the Paralympic sports because of their addiction to the same asthma. He was immediately kicked out of the national team. Quite recently, Tarpischev, just publicly uttered the Russian proverb "a man in a skirt" with regards to the Williams (sisters who are manlike) You probably know what happened to him. The problem is that the officials from the sport of the Russian Federation themselves drove the situation into a dead end. One could have started to fight asthmatics and other Western chips in this direction long ago. Instead, they tried to play by the rules of the cheats. So we finished playing.
      2. Sashka
        Sashka 19 July 2016 11: 24
        +2
        And I like all these intriguing scandals ... The adversaries inadvertently advertise. Wanted as "better" - it turned out as always ... (c)
        And as they say, that it’s good for the Russian, then the German is death! ... (c)
        They wanted to do harm, as a result, everyone just talks about Russia. Following the latest trend, we are good at getting benefits even from bad situations.
        We will see ...
        Good day!
        1. Monarchist
          Monarchist 19 July 2016 11: 55
          0
          And if the IOC remove us from the Olympics or do you think that this is not realistic? Tomorrow the arbitration court must decide whether to admit or not admit our athletes and McLaren is just: "accidentally" casts a shadow on the slab. If we are "banned" in the IOC, there will be a universal shame
          1. Sashka
            Sashka 19 July 2016 12: 13
            +2
            Personally, I will neither be cold nor hot. But the consequences for the established world geopolitics of exceptional will be hit, in my opinion. After all, it is not known how they can turn it ... They can criticize the IOC as an insolvent body, or something else. Here the scandal is brewing, and it is not known who will end up worse.
            1. vpm
              vpm 19 July 2016 16: 49
              +1
              I think, oddly enough, it will hit Brazil much harder as a result - they play games, there are a lot of problems with organizing them, a lot of tickets are not sold, and then there is the absence of one of the leading national teams, which will even more affect interest in it. And this despite the fact that a lot of money has been spent on games that will not come back in a crisis. And ours, in the end, will be repelled, I think, if you wish, the report can be disassembled into atoms and found internal inconsistencies, build protection and turn it towards the imperfection of the internal WADA procedures and their right to deal with such a crucial matter as checking the cleanliness of athletes. The problem is that it will all be after the Olympics, now there is not enough time. And so we chose the time very prudently, it is clear that it is difficult to prepare a thorough answer, and the effect is like from a bursting bomb. And it seems that they pressured McLaren to release exactly before the IOC review, and at the press conference he looks rather unhealthy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-01_CDZ13k
      3. cesar65
        cesar65 19 July 2016 11: 38
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Wend
        what kind of milildonia at the Sochi Olympics can be discussed, if then it was not banned.

        They don't give a damn; politics rules the sport. SchA even before the 2008 year get.

        2008 is not serious, they aimed at 1980
      4. Observer2014
        Observer2014 19 July 2016 11: 48
        +2
        Alexander Romanov hi
        They don't give a damn; politics rules the sport. SchA even before the 2008 year get.
        Of course they will! Our Georgians in three days zhahnul with doping in their blood. For the "democratic" armies of the West in those conditions would only have been uncovering for three months. laughing
        Ah! I’m sorry you are talking about the Beijing Olympics!
      5. Korney84
        Korney84 19 July 2016 13: 43
        0
        They don’t know what to get to, and get to the stars!
      6. svp67
        svp67 19 July 2016 14: 46
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They don't give a damn; politics rules the sport. SchA even before the 2008 year get.

        And not only to us ..
      7. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 21 July 2016 13: 33
        0
        And where is the scientific justification for the fact that milildonia really refers to doping. It’s strange that this drug was added to the group banned only in 2015, and tomorrow purgen will become doping. McLaren’s report is a fiction,
        there are no specifics and names of athletes convicted of doping. All this happens under pressure from the United States, they just removed the competitors with the help of the wada.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 19 July 2016 11: 08
      +8
      From the point of view of evidence-based medicine, Meldonium has no proven effectiveness and therefore is not doping. Passionate professional sport sitting on a dope. By the time they find a way to identify, pharmaceutical companies are inventing a new formula m all in a circle. The customer is clear, they are trying to isolate us.
      1. Smoked
        Smoked 19 July 2016 11: 14
        +1
        Everyone understands this, but they will not openly say. It is easier to whine about the political background.
      2. Rumata
        Rumata 19 July 2016 11: 33
        +2
        Quote: Balu
        From the point of view of evidence-based medicine, Meldonium has no proven effectiveness and therefore is not doping.

        On the basis of what was this conclusion made? The mechanism of work of meldonium has been studied quite well, and there are enough reasons to call it doping. Do you have other data? Link please?
        1. Aleksandr1959
          Aleksandr1959 19 July 2016 12: 04
          +3
          and there are enough reasons to call him dope

          Maybe not dope, all the same, but a reductant. Mildronate (active substance Meldonium)
          cardiologists are actively appointing him ... and not only.
          Indications:
          complex therapy of coronary artery disease (stenocardia, myocardial infarction);

          chronic heart failure and dyshormonal cardiomyopathy, as well as complex therapy of acute and chronic circulatory disorders of the brain (cerebral strokes and cerebrovascular insufficiency);

          abstinence syndrome in chronic alcoholism (in combination with a specific therapy of alcoholism);

          reduced performance, physical overvoltage, incl. at athletes.


          In the case of acute ischemic myocardial damage, Mildronate® slows the formation of the necrotic zone, shortens the rehabilitation period. With heart failure, it increases myocardial contractility, increases exercise tolerance, and reduces the frequency of angina attacks. In acute and chronic ischemic disorders of cerebral circulation improves blood circulation in the focus of ischemia, contributes to the redistribution of blood in favor of the ischemic area. Effective in case of vascular and dystrophic pathology of the fundus. The drug eliminates functional disorders of the central nervous system in patients with chronic alcoholism with withdrawal symptoms.

          It is made in Latvia.
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 19 July 2016 12: 26
            +2
            Quote: Aleksandr1959
            Maybe not dope, all the same, but a reductant

            As a reducing agent and doping. Meldonium is a carnitine inhibitor, only this is enough to call it "a synthetic substance that improves athletic performance" (doping). It is a metabolic modulator that affects hormones. I asked for a reason, they wrote above that mildonium is not doping and nothing has been proven. I'm interested in this on Channel One said or are there proofs and I'll arrange a small educational program for myself
            1. Aleksandr1959
              Aleksandr1959 19 July 2016 12: 59
              +3
              Both reducing agent and dope.

              It turns out that "two in one glass"?
              The drug is quite old. Used for a long time. I watched an interview with a Latvian, its creator. He categorically denies that the drug belongs to doping.
              Why just now he was ranked as a dope?
              As the stimulating drugs, take the same phenotropil
              Phenotropil has a positive effect on metabolic processes and blood circulation of the brain, stimulates redox processes, increases the energy potential of the body through the utilization of glucose, improves regional blood flow in ischemic areas of the brain. Increases the content of norepinephrine, dopamine and serotonin in the brain.
              Phenotropil has a moderately activating effect on motor reactions, increases physical performance, has a pronounced antagonism with respect to the cataleptic effect of antipsychotics, and reduces the severity of hypnotic effects of ethanol and hexenal.
              The psycho-stimulating effect of Phenotropil prevails in the ideational sphere. The moderate psychoactivating effect of the drug is combined with anxiolytic activity. Phenotropil improves mood, has an analgesic effect, increasing the threshold of pain sensitivity.
              Fenotropil has an adaptogenic effect, increasing the body's resistance to stress in conditions of increased mental and physical stress, with fatigue, hypokinesia and immobilization, at low temperatures.
              Against the background of the use of Phenotropil, there is an improvement in vision (an increase in sharpness, brightness and visual fields).
              Phenotropil improves blood supply to the lower limbs.

              Why not dope?
              Or tinctures of ginseng or eleotorococcus or rhodiola rosea?
            2. Al1977
              Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 38
              0
              Quote: Rumata
              I’m interested in saying it on Channel One or there are proofs and I’ll arrange a small educational program for myself

              Look, it doesn't matter whether it's doping or not. What's the difference. The main thing is different. "Ours are being beaten," so we must "harness". I’m wondering if the players were not allowed in the euro. Probably, they were now heroes, and it’s not something to exclude them, the President would have stood up for them ... not the entire VO site including!
          2. oborzevatel
            oborzevatel 19 July 2016 13: 36
            +1
            Quote: Aleksandr1959
            It is made in Latvia.

            Alexander, it is produced in Russia, at your place of residence.
            Under the brand name Milcardil.
            1. Aleksandr1959
              Aleksandr1959 19 July 2016 14: 14
              0
              Alexander, it is produced in Russia, at your place of residence.
              Under the brand name Milcardil.

              In the Kaluga province? I have not heard.
              1. oborzevatel
                oborzevatel 19 July 2016 14: 46
                +1
                Quote: Aleksandr1959
                Alexander, it is produced in Russia, at your place of residence.
                Under the brand name Milcardil.

                In the Kaluga province? I have not heard.

                Aha
                Moreover, even in the city where you live, at one of the pharmaceutical enterprises.
                1. Aleksandr1959
                  Aleksandr1959 19 July 2016 16: 39
                  0
                  Aha
                  Moreover, even in the city where you live, at one of the pharmaceutical enterprises.

                  Looked at the search engines did not find. We have several pharmaceutical enterprises. If not difficult, write a name. It became interesting, even. Among the manufacturers found only Moscow addresses.
        2. Penzyac
          Penzyac 19 July 2016 20: 23
          0
          Quote: Rumata
          Quote: Balu
          From the point of view of evidence-based medicine, Meldonium has no proven effectiveness and therefore is not doping.

          On the basis of what was this conclusion made? The mechanism of work of meldonium has been studied quite well, and there are enough reasons to call it doping. Do you have other data? Link please?

          Well, you can call simple glucose with ascorbic acid doping. The mechanism of their positive effect on the body is also well known ...
          Do you want all athletes to switch exclusively to bread and water? ... And, God forbid, be treated for something or for what? ...
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 20 July 2016 11: 12
            +1
            Quote: PENZYAC
            Well, you can call simple glucose with ascorbic acid doping. The mechanism of their positive effect on the body is also well known ...
            Do you want all athletes to switch exclusively to bread and water? ... And, God forbid, be treated for something or for what? ...

            What a habit of arguing about things you don’t understand at all. Before writing, you can spend 5 minutes and find out that doping is divided into categories, each category has its own criteria, in addition, doping is prohibited or under observation are different things. Is glucose an anabolic? Or is it a hormonal drug? What category of dope does it fit into?
      3. would
        would 21 July 2016 02: 37
        0
        From the point of view of evidence-based medicine, Meldonium has no proven effectiveness and therefore is not doping.


        Actually, it is: A series of studies was carried out according to all modern rules and they showed that meldonium increases athletic performance of athletes. Whether this is true or not is not so important, it is important that these studies allow meldonium to be considered a dope if desired and as part of evidence-based medicine.
    3. aleks700
      aleks700 19 July 2016 11: 17
      +5
      Yes, if you take samples of 1990 of the year around the world, it will be possible to deprive every second rank.
      Not at all. Every first one.
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 19 July 2016 11: 38
      +4
      Quote: Wend
      But I’m wondering what kind of milildonia at the Sochi Olympics there can be,

      So how do they do ... make a fuss.
      Head of US Anti-Doping Agency Travis Tigart, learning about new evidence, experienced, in his own words, “shock” and “indignation”.

      And where is the evidence itself?
      they'll just shake McLaren's "article", that's all their "proof". It's time to break the system.
      1. Beefeater
        Beefeater 19 July 2016 12: 19
        +2
        We need to collect evidence on McLaren. Or is he all pure and innocent? I do not believe. The best tax evasion and pedophilia
    5. Leto
      Leto 19 July 2016 14: 19
      0
      Quote: Wend
      But I’m wondering what kind of milldonia at the Sochi Olympics can be discussed, if then it was not banned.

      This is not about meldonium, but about the use of prohibited anabolics, the use of which was hidden by substitution of samples.
      1. Vend
        Vend 19 July 2016 18: 42
        +2
        Quote: Leto
        Quote: Wend
        But I’m wondering what kind of milldonia at the Sochi Olympics can be discussed, if then it was not banned.

        This is not about meldonium, but about the use of prohibited anabolics, the use of which was hidden by substitution of samples.

        Yes it is not real. “Berlinger Special AG, a manufacturer of doping test tubes, questioned the objectivity of the WADA report, in which an independent commission of the World Anti-Doping Agency accused Russia of fraudulently doping samples of athletes who participated in the Sochi Olympics in 2014.
        The company said in a statement that it was not possible to open containers with doping samples without visible damage. This is confirmed by tests conducted both by the company itself and by an independent Swiss institute. The company does not know what methods WADA experts used in preparing the report.
        The company emphasized that the containers manufactured by Berlinger Special AG have the highest possible protection and are used around the world.

        RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/sport/20160719/1471469353.html#ixzz4EryeWKdV "
        WADA, in its stupid desire to cook up a case against Russia, set up a Swiss company. WADA is not either suckers, or did it on purpose. And they took the loot for a fake affair and could not inflate the scandal with hard facts.
      2. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 19 July 2016 19: 26
        0
        In the ass, such a sport, such athletes and officials who provide it, without prejudice to themselves, and even with a profit. They provide, by the way, largely at the expense of taxpayers. That is, at the expense of you, me and everyone else. the palaces that are being erected at our expense will anyone be allowed to do anything other than on a travel ticket? Like a ball to ride in your free time? I personally spend my money on ambitious idiots who spend their health and life on zilch in all I don’t intend to. And I don’t have to rely on an idiot with chicken brains, but pumped up with dope and other chemistry muscles.

        “Stalin tirelessly fought for people's free time. Amateur sports were extremely developed and precisely amateur. Each enterprise and institution had sports teams and athletes from its employees. Even larger enterprises were obliged to have and maintain stadiums. Everyone played everything. Soviet the authorities, striving to create the ideal person of the future, paid great attention to sports and its promotion. "
        The full text of the article "Stalin and Soviet Sport" at this link.
        https://t.co/Qz9eRUsFy9
        With photos.
  2. Teberii
    Teberii 19 July 2016 10: 46
    +12
    Russia is one of the largest countries that make the largest contributions to various sports organizations. Well, just refer to the economic crisis and let .... paw. All issues will be resolved immediately.
    1. DMB_95
      DMB_95 19 July 2016 11: 11
      +3
      Somewhere in the 2000s, after another "run over" on Russian athletes, proposals appeared (and not only in Russia) - to create an alternative Olympic Games without the States and their puppets. The idea, of course, is very controversial and very expensive. But if they had decided then, maybe now there would have been a completely different alignment.
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 19 July 2016 11: 19
        +1
        They very quickly found the bribe takers in football, now the ball is on our side, fussing at officials, you look and they have a snout in the cannon.
      2. Monarchist
        Monarchist 19 July 2016 12: 15
        +2
        The so-called "Games of Goodwill" which were successfully "closed by the pelvis". Who participated - the countries that chose the "socialist path of development" which were subsidized by the Soviet Union, and now name the countries that will oppose mattress mats? The idea is certainly beautiful, but not viable
      3. Beefeater
        Beefeater 19 July 2016 12: 20
        0
        Quote: DMB_95
        Somewhere in the 2000s, after another "run over" on Russian athletes, proposals appeared (and not only in Russia) - to create an alternative Olympic Games without the States and their puppets. The idea, of course, is very controversial and very expensive. But if they had decided then, maybe now there would have been a completely different alignment.

        Who will participate? Uzbekistan and Belarus?
  3. mitya24
    mitya24 19 July 2016 10: 51
    +11
    Everything goes to the point that Rio will be without Russia. Unfortunately, it should be noted that the war got to the sport. We did not start all this, but SUCH humiliation cannot be left without an answer. Here we definitely need a symmetric answer, only in terms of means we are essentially limited. And then that is an humiliation, there is no doubt.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 19 July 2016 12: 22
      -1
      And I'm talking about the same, if we fly to Rio then the consequences of the scandal will and will be! They will try to torpedo the football championship. True, this is difficult to do, but limit the number of participants or how else they can
    2. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 12: 54
      -3
      that war got to sports

      And before this was not? And the US Olympic 80s bike?
      We did not start all this, but SUCH humiliation cannot be left without an answer

      Why didn’t you write that we never took dope, our athletes are the most honest athletes?
      By the way, a couple of weeks ago our players were offered to disperse, but rather to shoot.
      I believe that it would be better if they fell for meldonia, then it would be a world conspiracy against us, and the players are ranked among the victims of unfair capitalism?))

      Quote: mitya24
      Here we definitely need a symmetric answer, only here in the means we are significantly limited

      In what means? Funds for what? What will be the essence of the answer? Maybe he just refused to let the whole team go, boycotting, as the USA did?
      Only besides your feelings, for many this is a profession, they live on prize money. And they will go despite your desires.
      And the last thing. Ours substituted, they took advantage of. As the saying goes, "nothing personal."
      If ours would have had such an opportunity, they would have done exactly the same. I have long believed that our Ministry of Sports can not cope, especially in modern realities. And they explain their losses with complete nonsense, about the fact that TAM is not honest, and we lose because we are honest. No, because l about x and.
  4. Arkan
    Arkan 19 July 2016 10: 53
    +7
    Note that the initiators of the scandal, the United States, aside, are voicing fakes of their servants. The West has once again shown its face, the facade of which is adorned with talk about the right, personal freedom and other attributes of "democracy". The lie is the backbone of their life.
  5. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 19 July 2016 10: 55
    +5
    Do our athletes win due to doping in competitions?
    And athletes from other states that lost ours in the tenths and hundredths of a second, they mean everything was taken out cleanly in physics? without any pharmacology? They who for fools are holding us or their citizens?
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 41
      -2
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Do our athletes win due to doping in competitions?
      And athletes from other states that lost ours in the tenths and hundredths of a second, they mean everything was taken out cleanly in physics? without any pharmacology? They who for fools are holding us or their citizens?

      Ours are due to physics, and they are due to doping! It’s obvious to everyone, therefore we were run over. And they want to take away the World Cup2018, where our updated team should smash down all the gay Ronalds and rogues of the Messi.
  6. Essex62
    Essex62 19 July 2016 10: 57
    +8
    The West, gnashing its teeth, "we hate, we hate, we hate," and stomped its feet and spattered with saliva. Well, what else, how else to annoy the Russians, what other mean thing to invent? It looks like a communal apartment with an inadequate spinster in the kitchen. It splashes straight with poison, ready to spit into the pan. What do they do in such cases? You can't give a turnip, he will call the cops. Correctly slam the door in front of your nose and turn on the music. Conclusion - it's time to build a new wall, enough to hang around with geyrops. Who is not happy - let them bring down. The air will be cleaner.
    1. mitya24
      mitya24 19 July 2016 11: 59
      +5
      I AM FOR. Everything is correct. With the collapse of the "curtain" so much filth poured over us that we could hardly stand it. We are self-sufficient ... I'm not even talking about resources now. We have culture, we have science, we have FAITH at last. We will stand without them. Let them wriggle in their moral decay themselves (same-sex marriages, a sin raised to a cult, etc.) not long for them. The Roman Empire first died morally, and only then physically.
      1. Al1977
        Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 43
        0
        Quote: mitya24
        With the collapse of the "curtain" so much filth poured over us that we could hardly stand it.

        At the last second, they slammed the door, blocking the flow of mucus to Russia, barely had time !!!!
    2. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 42
      0
      Quote: Essex62
      . Conclusion, it's time to build a new wall, enough geyropov hang around.

      Who is hanging around ??? !!! All of ours are already here !!!!
  7. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 19 July 2016 10: 59
    +2
    The report, prepared by lawyer Richard Maclaren, reports ...

    It is no coincidence that this Richard is lawyer. Lawyers usually defend the interests of those who pay well. They found a legal prostitute at the right time, paid her a fee, and she hastened to work it out shortly before the upcoming OI began.
  8. Altona
    Altona 19 July 2016 11: 01
    +4
    4.
    Sport activities
    -
    one of the human rights. Everyone should be able to
    to engage in sports without discrimination, in the spirit of Olympism, which under
    blows
    mutual understanding in the spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.
    5.
    Understanding that sport functions within the framework of society, sports
    organizations within the Olympic movement must have rights and obligations,
    peculiar to autonomous organizations that incl
    independent creation
    sports rules and their control, structure definition and management of their
    organizations, respect for the right to conduct elections free of any external
    impacts as well as liability for providing
    changing the principles of good faith
    management.
    6.
    Any form of discrimination against a country or person
    -
    racial
    religious, political or otherwise, or based on gender
    -
    incompatible with
    belonging to the Olympic movement.

    7.
    Affiliation
    to the Olympic movement requires compliance with the provisions
    Olympic Charter and Recognition by the International Olympic Committee.
    ------------------------------
    This is a quote from the paragraph "Fundamental Principles of Olympism"Olympic Charter. If this unsubstantiated" report "works, then we will assume that Olympism is dead.
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 19 July 2016 11: 18
      0
      Oh, what the hell are the rules!
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 July 2016 11: 03
    +3
    The formation of the image of the enemy is an integral part of the war that is unleashed against Russia. The most serious accusations are those that are not related to reality. The blow is aimed not only at Rio, they aim at the World Cup, and it’s not the first time they come from different directions!
    It is difficult to deflect such accusations. Well, nothing. It's a shame, of course, but we’ll be meaner.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 13: 01
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      They aim at the World Cup, and it’s not the first time they come from different angles!

      "During a meeting with Vladimir Putin in Moscow, President of the International Football Federation (FIFA) Gianni Infantino expressed confidence that Russia will" host the best World Cup in history. "

      No one questions the holding of the 2018 World Cup in Russia. It is wild populism to link the doping scandal that neither Putin nor Mutko denies to the 2018 World Cup
  10. akudr48
    akudr48 19 July 2016 11: 05
    +8
    Of course, you can search and find the external enemies of the country outside the solar system, but probably it makes sense to look at the enemies inside.

    Rodchenkov is an obvious scum, criminal, traitor, defector, etc. scoundrel.

    But doping cases are built into the business model of sports management in the country, and this changes the case, because it includes a lot of money, deep cuts and large kickbacks.

    Who appointed Rodchenkova as the head of the country's main anti-doping structure - isn’t it muddy, why did he do it and on what terms?

    Why was he released in the USA after his dismissal, when the tail of doping crimes was already reaching for him? Was it not clear what kind of fruit it was?

    Why wasn’t a criminal case brought against him in Russia, who prevented this, didn’t give the case progress?

    How does it turn out that the main one in sports - Mutko - is in all matters of sports, in Sochi, in football, in athletics, etc. - aside, he seemed to be out of business, so he passed by? Although it is clear that without this very muddy gentleman no serious issue could be resolved.

    The entire sports management system in the country is built on the business interests of senior officials, hence the roots of doping scandals are drawn.

    And all the other failures, failures and dead ends where these rulers lead the country.

    It's time to change the whole team!
    1. Altona
      Altona 19 July 2016 11: 14
      +2
      Quote: akudr48
      How does it turn out that the main one in sports - Mutko - is in all matters of sports, in Sochi, in football, in athletics, etc. - aside, he seemed to be out of business, so he passed by? Although it is clear that without this very muddy gentleman no serious issue could be resolved.

      ----------------------
      And what have the officials and athletes to do with it? There is no need to tie athletes to officials. What are the athletes to blame? Officials everywhere are equally selfish. The same Rodchenkov, a former laboratory assistant. An IAAF leader who sits in his chair thanks to a bribe. Yes, in the United States there was a system of distribution and concealment of doping, which ended in nothing. The Olympic Games will simply become an analogue of the Oscars. Functionaries from the United States will sit there and decide who is the "best foreign athlete", because the rest of the nominations will be the United States and Great Britain.
  11. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 19 July 2016 11: 07
    +8
    But Grishan Rodchenko still needs to be hung by the bells!
    A man committed an act that cannot be called betrayal. But now he was jackal in chocolate, and broke many of our guys all his life!
  12. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 19 July 2016 11: 07
    +3
    Rio is just the beginning. Further more - the World Cup without the national team of the Russian Federation (the Ethics Commission was not mentioned in vain in the article), and tomorrow there will be a question about the transfer of the World Cup from Russia, even despite the deadlines.
  13. Bratan
    Bratan 19 July 2016 11: 08
    0
    as always, no evidence whatsoever, anyone can concoct such a report and the mattresses will support it
  14. Smoked
    Smoked 19 July 2016 11: 08
    -1
    Sami framed. I don’t know if everyone knew that someone had invested a certain amount of money in research on meldonium as a drug dope, but you couldn’t notice it in the list of bans from some period or other ?! Everything flows, everything changes, if it has been used for decades, it does not mean that it will always be so. So it's time to invest in sports pharmacology.
    As for the testimony of this Rodchenkov, I would have believed him if it had not been for the FSB, but it would have seemed to be purely for the Western public.
    1. Homo
      Homo 19 July 2016 12: 00
      +1
      Quote: Smoked
      As for the testimony of this Rodchenkov, I would have believed him if it had not been for the FSB, but it would have seemed to be purely for the Western public.

      How can one trust a person who has fallen for violations, who was fired, who was offended by the dismissal, who left behind a hill and from there began to pour mud on those who caught him on violations.
      1. Al1977
        Al1977 19 July 2016 13: 08
        +1
        Quote: Homo
        How can one trust a person who has fallen for violations, who was fired, who was offended by the dismissal, who left behind a hill and from there began to pour mud on those who caught him on violations.

        Mutually can you believe?
  15. Victor1
    Victor1 19 July 2016 11: 08
    +3
    All chew snot and do not take any protective action ..
    To appeal the decision on the recognition of meldonium by doping, including referring to analogues from Western countries. Sue libel. Quickly dismiss.
    And the Olympiad needs to be boycotted, there are enough reasons for this.
    They will be highly politicized, our athletes will be crushed from all sides.
    In addition, Brazil has a very turbulent environment ..
    1. Altona
      Altona 19 July 2016 11: 18
      +3
      Quote: Victor1
      And the Olympiad needs to be boycotted, there are enough reasons for this.

      -----------------
      No need to boycott. This will be a step back, not forward. It makes sense to preserve Olympism, and not destroy it. Following the same pattern, we have China next. They also want to squeeze him out of the Olympic movement. We must fight to the end in the format of international organizations in order to reveal the engagement of some individuals.
      1. Victor1
        Victor1 19 July 2016 12: 22
        0
        It makes no sense to open anything, because and so everyone understands everything, the whiter it makes no sense to prove anything to the Western capitalist countries, it will be more expensive for themselves, given their inadequacy.
        In order to point out the truth and defend it, you need to challenge the decision with meldonium and everything connected with it. And also indicate its analogues that are used by Western countries.

        It is necessary to recall at least the case of Khorkina and Nemov, then the situation in the world was not so tense. Now the negative in our direction comes to the point of absurdity and is crushed from all sides. There will not be much sense in such politicized games.
        The second, not unimportant moment, is the difficult situation in Brazil, in such conditions any provocation can be organized.
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 19 July 2016 13: 16
          0
          Quote: Victor1
          It makes no sense to open anything, because and so everyone understands everything, the whiter it makes no sense to prove anything

          So they felt that there was no point in proving what everyone is not happy with.
      2. Lyubopyatov
        Lyubopyatov 19 July 2016 22: 49
        0
        Do you need this Olympism? I do not need! Olympism is the deification of paganism, and "big sport" is the mutilation of people. It is necessary to revise the "Olympic" sports in the direction of their reduction and rename the Olympic Games, removing all the stupid show-off.
    2. Homo
      Homo 19 July 2016 12: 05
      0
      Quote: Victor1
      To appeal the decision on the recognition of meldonium by doping, including referring to analogues from Western countries.

      Report a foreign country to a foreign country?
      Quote: Victor1
      Sue libel.

      In a foreign court for defamation of a foreign country?
      Quote: Victor1
      Quickly dismiss.

      For what?
      Quote: Victor1
      And the Olympiad needs to be boycotted, there are enough reasons for this.

      So they achieve this.
      Quote: Victor1
      They will be highly politicized, our athletes will be crushed from all sides.

      Russia is generally heavily pressed, so what do we commit mass suicide?
      1. Victor1
        Victor1 19 July 2016 12: 27
        0
        It is necessary to defend and defend our interests, and not to assent and stand with our heads bowed, accepting any inadequate assaults towards Russia.
    3. berezin1987
      berezin1987 19 July 2016 14: 52
      0
      You can’t boycott, because many athletes live the dream of speaking at the Olympic Games. Need to beat in other areas, such as space.
    4. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 44
      -2
      Quote: Victor1
      Quickly dismiss.

      Mutually not to blame! He is the victim of enemy attacks. If they substitute him, then he does everything right, the old rule, but it works! They achieve this ... on scandals such as you are calculated !!!
      1. Victor1
        Victor1 20 July 2016 13: 57
        +1
        complete nonsense,
        with football a complete failure,
        I didn’t defend the Olympic team,
        no actions have been taken to defend our interests and protect our athletes,
        Meldonium did not dispute, while this is not doping and Western countries have their own counterpart,
        there was enough time to at least somehow resist the persecution from the west, but in response they only chew snot and assent to all this inadequate beleber ..
        This still does not take into account other internal problems of our sport ..
  16. bubalik
    bubalik 19 July 2016 11: 08
    +2
    ... and so it is clear, Putin added meldonium to food for athletes, recourse not all the same not he ,, Peskov wassat
  17. sabakina
    sabakina 19 July 2016 11: 13
    +6
    As it became known on July 19, the Investigative Chamber of the International Football Federation Ethics Committee will fully study the WADA report. This was announced to TASS by the representative of the investigative chamber of the FIFA Ethics Committee Roman Gaiser.
    - If the report contains evidence of violations of the FIFA Code of Ethics, the investigative chamber will take appropriate measures.

    Oh how! The Russian national team lost because it ate meldonium? belay I’m leaving for the astral ....
  18. 89625588851
    89625588851 19 July 2016 11: 16
    +4
    Here you go ... Now, sport is not only sport, but also politics with a capital letter. Who would have thought ... Sorry for the athletes.
    1. Homo
      Homo 19 July 2016 12: 07
      0
      Quote: 89625588851
      Now sport is not only sport, but also politics with a capital letter. Who would have thought ...

      How old are you? What does "now" mean? And what about the 80 Olympics? belay
      1. Homo
        Homo 19 July 2016 13: 01
        -1
        And justify the minus, not fate? Or nothing to say? If this is minus 89625588851, then what is it, a child’s resentment for minus and snot to the floor? request
        1. 89625588851
          89625588851 20 July 2016 05: 53
          0
          33me. Amerikosy did not come to the Olympics - God bless them! And in this case, our athletes are not allowed to compete - this is already too much. I have nothing to do cons to put ...
    2. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 13: 20
      0
      Quote: 89625588851
      Now sport is not only sport, but also politics with a capital letter.

      And when was it different?
  19. Rumata
    Rumata 19 July 2016 11: 20
    -6
    You scream about double standards, or you use them yourself. Again, everything is against Mother Russia and the Tsar personally. All there are the Lamb of God, whom the Satanists of the Anglo-Saxons slandered. Kindergarten
    If it were rumors, or conclusions made by her based on rumors, without facts, then I understand. But the fact is that they have a lot of evidence. Documents, real urine samples, testimonies of DIRECT PARTICIPANTS of all this disgrace (officials and athletes). You talk about politics, and not about what damage has been done to Russian sports.

    And about "everyone accepts." Doping is a broad concept, and perhaps it is. But it's one thing to stuff athletes with new types of doping, which have not yet been banned, and may never be banned, and quite another to collude, change test results, destroy samples when the hype started, etc. How can you not see the difference between the first and second ??
    1. Kurasava
      Kurasava 19 July 2016 11: 35
      +6
      That's the point, dear Rumata. That they do not have ANY proof! All their accusations are unfounded, they have not proven anything. Watch the entire press conference from beginning to end with the questions that were asked to him. He cannot give an affirmative answer to more than one question, not one specifically posed question! The main message is that we are sure that the Russians did it, but how we do not know. Why are we so sure of this? Well, what are you Russians, isn't it clear they are definitely to blame. And this is not the first example of such a blatant lie from the West, one report on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq is worth what, and then Libya and Afghanistan and "doping" are from the same opera. Biased attitude is on the face here and no one even hides it impudently smiles as if to say-well, what will you do ??? A month ago in London, a doctor from one of the laboratories publicly admitted that he prescribed growth hormone to English athletes and this is the strongest doping at the moment and where is their removal from games, where is there any reaction at all?
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 19 July 2016 12: 10
        -1
        Quote: Kurasava
        That is the point, dear Rumata. That they don’t have ANY evidence! All their accusations are unfounded, they have not proved anything. See the entire press conference from beginning to end with the questions that were asked to him.

        No one in this situation will throw all documents, audio recordings, and samples into the network. Of course, here you can include the conspiracy theory and say that they have nothing at all, but whatever you say, the IOC is not a Sharashkin office that just invents stories and fiercely hates Russia. If the case is about a robbery, and it is said that the investigators have confessions of a robber, fingerprints, shooting with a surveillance camera and stolen things, how do you feel about this? Are the investigators lying and they have nothing? But what about the court?
        After the IOC decides, we will see the evidence, and now no one is obliged to provide it to us.

        But you can read the McLaren report online, there are a lot of interesting things.
        https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/20160718_ip_report_final
        3.pdf

        His conclusions are

        A failsafe system, ordered and controlled by the state, operated from the Moscow laboratory, in order to protect Russian athletes by replacing positive samples with falsified negative results

        A new system, in operation at the laboratory in Sochi, allowed for a 'unique', clandestine sample-switching system to hide positive samples. McLaren found evidence of tampering on sample bottles tested

        The Ministry of Sport 'directed, controlled and oversaw' both methods of manipulating athletes' urine samples, and were assisted by the FSB (the Russian federal security service), CSP (Center of Sports Preparation in Russia), and Rusada


        You imagine this as if they have nothing in the public domain - fig. But what about Rodchenkov’s testimony? State Department Agent? And the samples in the McLaren report? Is everything invented? And interviews with the simulators where they told how it works?
        Even now there is enough evidence, and this despite the fact that the lion's share of documents and testimonies of athletes that the IOC have not yet been published
      2. Al1977
        Al1977 19 July 2016 13: 23
        -1
        Quote: Kurasava
        That they don’t have ANY evidence

        In other words, there are no anti-doping committee violations and never happened? I just want to understand your position. Do you stand on the principles "we are the only honest athletes in the world", or "you can catch us, and even more so what can you prove?"
    2. Krsk
      Krsk 19 July 2016 11: 42
      +2
      Quote: Rumata
      If it were rumors, or conclusions made by her based on rumors, without facts, then I understand. But the fact is that they have a lot of evidence. Documents, real urine samples, testimonies of DIRECT PARTICIPANTS of all this disgrace (officials and athletes). You talk about politics, and not about what damage has been done to Russian sports.

      let them present, all their "facts" are contained in words: it seems to us, we think, he reported, and so on and so on. if there is guilt, no one will say a word against it, but that's how it is, isn't it fair. remember Colin Powell was shaking a test tube at the UN with evidence ...

      PS presumption of innocence? did not hear ...
    3. Homo
      Homo 19 July 2016 12: 10
      +2
      Quote: Rumata
      If it were rumors, or conclusions made by her based on rumors, without facts, then I understand. But the fact is that they have a lot of evidence.

      And remember Powell's test tube and everything will become clear to you! If it were not for this test tube (and the like), then we could still talk about the "honesty" and "facts" of the West and the USA!
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 19 July 2016 12: 37
        -2
        Quote: Homo
        And remember Powell's test tube and everything will become clear to you! If it were not for this test tube (and the like), then we could still talk about the "honesty" and "facts" of the West and the USA!

        That's just the point that according to your logic it is impossible to prove anything, in general. Rodchenkov is a resentful dissident watering the country with which he fled. Athletes - sold out to the State Department. Maclaren - invented everything. Oh yes, there is still a test tube! Even if there are scans of documents, you will still say that everything is fake. For this reason, expert commissions, IOC, WADA, and the Russian Federation work in such matters. But, again, nothing prevents you from saying that the IOC works for the State Department, WADA and Maclaren are masses, and the removal of sports officials by Medvedev is the Tsar’s next multi-trip. This is how to argue with the supporters of the Lunar Conspiracy - as a result, all photoshop and it makes no sense to waste time.
    4. Odysseus
      Odysseus 19 July 2016 16: 28
      0
      Quote: Rumata
      But the fact is that they have a lot of evidence

      In reality, there is no evidence. But in the world of our Jewish-American friends, they are undoubtedly present.
      And your most powerful "proof" is "No one in such a situation will throw all documents, audio recordings and samples into the network." laughing
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 19 July 2016 16: 43
        0
        Quote: Odyssey
        And your most powerful "proof" is "No one in such a situation will throw all documents, audio recordings and samples into the network.

        It's called "you look in a book, you see a fig." In addition to this proposal, I wrote something else. And he added in the comments below, but it's not clear why I'm wasting my time. Probably work off the State Department salary
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 19 July 2016 17: 01
          +1
          Quote: Rumata
          ". In addition to this proposal, I also wrote something. And below I added.

          You "added" some kind of surrealistic nonsense about the "king", and as "evidence" cited the "conclusions" of gr. McLaren and the statements of Count Rodchenkov. Rodchenkov's statements are not evidence because they were not made in court, not supported by factual verifiable data and made in the United States, that is, there is no guarantee of their impartiality.
          PS If you went to high school instead of wasting time on VO, then you would know that the monarchy in Russia ceased to exist in February 1917.
          Quote: Rumata
          Probably work out the State Department salary

          Do not flatter yourself, citizen. The State Department pays those who have at least something in their head — no one would pay you a single shekel.
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 19 July 2016 17: 13
            +1
            How everything is running
            Quote: Odyssey
            The allegations of Mr. Rodchenkov are not evidence since they were not made in court

            Which court? What kind of nonsense? That is, the IOC must submit to the COURT OF RUSSIA, in The Hague, and only then can Rodnichenko’s allegations be taken into account? I have not read such nonsense for a long time.
            Quote: Odyssey
            , are not supported by actual verifiable data and made in the United States, that is, there is no guarantee of their impartiality.

            Well, of course, these Imperialists, They did everything, scum
            Quote: Odyssey
            PS If you went to high school instead of wasting time on VO, then you would know that the monarchy in Russia ceased to exist in February 1917.

            Read the changes to the constitution of the Russian Federation over the past 15 years and you will understand that the Tsar rules in the Russian Federation, who appoints judges and governors, extends his terms, has a personal guard and unlimited power. I won’t answer anymore, don’t bother.
            1. Al1977
              Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 47
              -1
              Quote: Rumata
              Read the changes to the constitution of the Russian Federation over the past 15 years and you will understand that the Tsar rules in the Russian Federation, who appoints judges and governors, extends his terms, has a personal guard and unlimited power. I won’t answer anymore, don’t bother.

              Not the King, but beloved and elected by the people, the wise President! Do not here la la !!! We elect him, re-elect and re-elect !!! But the Tsar is not elected!
            2. Odysseus
              Odysseus 19 July 2016 18: 00
              0
              Quote: Rumata
              Which court? What kind of nonsense?

              That is, you are not even aware that any statements, and especially references to other people's statements, are idle chatter so far not legally supported? Well then, you basically fall out of reality.
              Quote: Rumata
              That is, the IOC must submit to the COURT OF RUSSIA,

              Not at all. It is enough that the testimony of citizen Rodnichenko be legally binding and carried out under oath. And also, of course, corroborated by relevant factual evidence. Moreover, the authority conducting the investigation must be recognized by all interested parties and all interested parties must take part in the investigation.
              Quote: Rumata
              Well, of course, these Imperialists, They did everything, scum

              Everything is clear. You have no reasons.
              Quote: Rumata
              Read the changes to the constitution of the Russian Federation over the past 15 years and you will understand that the Tsar rules in Russia,

              Refer to the constitution of the Russian Federation and argue that Russia is ruled by the Tsar — ​​it's five laughing
              "-And where is our prosecutor ?, in the 6th ward, where Napoleon was before"
              Sorry, if I knew that you were crazy, I would not enter into a discussion with you.
              Quote: Rumata
              I won’t answer anymore, don’t bother.

              Once again, I apologize for taking you seriously. Sick people need to be treated, not scolded.
  20. FIREMAN
    FIREMAN 19 July 2016 11: 20
    +6
    In general, there is such a subject in higher educational institutions - sports medicine. One of its sections is sports pharmacology. And it would be wrong not to say so. Big sport has always been an element of political influence and big money, therefore it is natural that the development of special drugs is ongoing. the only question is that in order to put pressure on rivals from time to time, obsolete substances are introduced into the doping list and begin to "play" - that is honest, this is not fair. Vaughn periodically at biathlon competitions slips information that in some teams all asthmatics - have you ever seen a member of the country's Olympic team - asthmatics? Do not tell my horseshoes - they will not be admitted to the national team ... It is clear that inhalers help them feel better in the highlands and at a distance. Just like the US Army, Viagra buys tons of Viagra for its soldiers, because it stimulates the heart. Therefore, this fuss is exclusively an attempt to influence.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 19 July 2016 11: 41
      -2
      Quote: FIREMAN
      play "- that one is honest, this one is not fair.

      Is it fair to destroy samples and documents? All this hype didn’t start because of doping. Only the doping scandal would have subsided rather quickly, the athletes were initially suspended for half a year - a year, not critical. The scandal began when it became clear that all this was supported by various structures in the Russian Federation, and at the highest level. The case was not only put on stream, but also changed urine samples, corrected documents, etc. Is this honest in your opinion? If something like that was found in the United States, I'm 100% sure that the scandal would have been even greater. There the public would have joined against, suspension, courts, etc. Don't believe me, read about the "minor" doping scandals in baseball and American football over the last 10 years and what a fuss there was in the US. This despite the fact that only clubs were involved, not officials.
      And in the Russian Federation, everyone rolls on politics, the Anglo-Saxons against Russia and not a word about sport
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 19 July 2016 12: 02
        0
        Quote: Rumata
        If this were found in the USA, I am 100% sure that the scandal would be even greater. There would be a public connected against


        I am begging you! How "the public in the United States is connected" can be seen in the presidential race, and how they struggle with the connected "public" are also often observed.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 19 July 2016 12: 40
          +1
          Quote: B.T.W.
          I am begging you! How "the public in the United States is connected" can be seen in the presidential race, and how they struggle with the connected "public" are also often observed.

          What does it have to do with it? I repeat for the gifted, read about sports scandals in the United States in recent years, and about people's reactions to this disgrace. Heads flew there and didn’t talk about how China works against us, compromises, and pays. All because of the enemies, and we are white and fluffy.
          1. Al1977
            Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 54
            -1
            Quote: Rumata
            Heads flew there and didn’t talk about how China works against us.

            Yes, and the Chinese, it seems, do not indulge in this, this is purely ours and the countries of the former USSR. Well, what if the whole world attacks us, it's because we are good, and all bad, it’s obvious.
      2. Al1977
        Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 51
        0
        Quote: Rumata
        And in the Russian Federation, everyone rolls on politics, the Anglo-Saxons against Russia and not a word about sport

        Your point of view is logical and proof ... but on this site. I'm afraid you only miss the minuses for this. Not patriotic. For "beat the Jews, save Russia" would have received many advantages and understanding in the eyes of the "public"
  21. Masya masya
    Masya masya 19 July 2016 11: 25
    +4
    Yes, all the words ... nerves shake and sit on the ass exactly ...
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 55
      0
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Yes, all the words ... nerves shake and sit on the ass exactly ...

      Here you are a golden man .. that’s how you know how to express the essence of the essence !!!! Bold plus !!!!
  22. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 19 July 2016 11: 26
    +1
    In the event that Russia is deprived of the right to speak in Rio, it’s not important to withdraw contributions for the 4 of the year, without fail, through arbitration, a court ... Need a precedent !!!
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 19 July 2016 11: 47
      0
      90% of IOC funding is in the private sector. Ticket sales and contributions from non-state sponsors. From Coca-Col and McDonald's, the IOC receives more than the membership fees of the Russian Federation or other countries ...
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 19 July 2016 12: 06
        0
        Quote: Rumata
        From Coca-Col and McDonald's, IOC Gets More


        How "just the chest opens"!
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 19 July 2016 12: 42
          +1
          Quote: B.T.W.
          How "just the chest opens"!

          IOC Annual Report 2014, enjoy reading
          https://stillmed.olympic.org/Documents/THE%20IOC/Annual_Report/2014_IOC_AnnualRe
          port_ENG_onscreen.pdf
          1. Al1977
            Al1977 19 July 2016 17: 56
            -1
            Quote: Rumata
            Quote: B.T.W.
            How "just the chest opens"!

            IOC Annual Report 2014, enjoy reading
            https://stillmed.olympic.org/Documents/THE%20IOC/Annual_Report/2014_IOC_AnnualRe

            port_ENG_onscreen.pdf

            You can’t believe it until they say on the first channel !!!!
            1. B.T.V.
              B.T.V. 21 July 2016 02: 52
              0
              Quote: Al1977
              You can’t believe it until they say on the first channel !!!!


              I want to disappoint you, I don’t watch the news on TV, but I don’t watch the first channel at all. There is enough news in the internet.
  23. iouris
    iouris 19 July 2016 11: 28
    0
    This is just a warm-up campaign. In a couple of months, the main one will be held. The US administration clearly believed in its ability to control the flow of thought on a global scale.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 13: 24
      0
      Quote: iouris
      This is just a warm-up campaign. In a couple of months, the main one will be held. The US administration clearly believed in its ability to control the flow of thought on a global scale.

      Can you at least hint what awaits us? Intrigued right.
  24. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 19 July 2016 11: 29
    +1
    Hybrid warfare now encompasses all spheres of activity of any country, including sports, education, medical care, and so on. McLaren got involved in this war (that is, he was involved, and it's not about him personally). Taking into account the war waged against us, I am jarred by the use of the expression "world community" in the article without proper quotation marks.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 13: 25
      -1
      Quote: Lyubopyatov
      Hybrid warfare now covers all areas of activity of any country, including sports, education, medical care and so on. Maclaren joins this war

      Maybe it's time to start bombing your ear, how long can it go on, only it gets worse, what are we waiting for?
    2. berezin1987
      berezin1987 19 July 2016 15: 28
      0
      Instead of sending the world community to three funny letters. I do not call for knocking a shoe on the UN rostrum, I want to disclose all information from the Russian special services on the September 11 terrorist attack and the death of the Kursk submarine. The explanation "she drowned" does not suit me.
  25. uzer 13
    uzer 13 19 July 2016 11: 29
    +5
    In this story, both the IOC and Meldonium are used as a means of combating Russia, and are actively supported by foreign media. However, there is no smoke without fire. The Russian Ministry of Sports itself does not have a very good reputation and has established itself as a completely rotten and corrupt organization. Uncles in jackets who work in it, do not miss the chance to attend international competitions in excess of the number of athletes. Only athletes do not receive any help or support. Jackets come to drink, eat, take a walk at the expense of the budget, otherwise it cannot be. Because sport , unlike physical education, these are commercial projects and events, all this is connected with politics and big money, and in such circumstances all means are good, there would be a result. All sports are built on the use of restorative drugs, whatever they are called, anyone knows athlete. The United States and its close allies take the lead in drug manufacturing. from the reception, as soon as they receive in the laboratories a new tool that is not determined on the filters of the anti-doping services, they immediately take it into service, and the old one, which is still being used, is outlawed. They will suffer from this country with a backward pharmaceutical industry, primarily Russia, against which these actions are directed. Yes and there is reason. Most recently, one and a half to two years ago, in all supermarkets there were small shops selling food additives for athletes. I asked what they sell, anabolics, The sellers said that they were not steroids, but something completely different, but they didn’t say specifically. That is, it was meldonium purchased in large quantities abroad. And didn’t the manufacturers of the drug notice who bought it and why? And didn’t they inform the supervisory authorities? The Ministry of Sports completely failed all the work on the development of physical culture in the state and turned into a mafia structure, which is engaged in incomprehensibly what and the existing it is clear for what.
    1. Lyubopyatov
      Lyubopyatov 19 July 2016 22: 41
      0
      What is the Ministry of Sports, what is sport in general? Fans, bikers and a lot of beer. But next to the Ministry of Sports is Rossotrudnichestvo, full of Moscow loafers (the head is the capitulator and money-lover Kosachev), the capitulation Ministry of Foreign Affairs. affairs, setting as ambassadors in Kiev, Minsk, Chisinau capitulators, groveling in front of local feudal lords and journalists and indulging the persecution of Russian and pro-Russian organizations, next to the Federal Agency for Mass Communications, sending delegations of "cultural figures" such as Dm at our expense Bykov, Ulitskaya, and emigrants living in Germany, Switzerland, etc., who "worthily" represent the Russian Federation and the "Russian" culture.
  26. 1536
    1536 19 July 2016 11: 30
    +2
    This McLaren, or whatever it is, is guessing on the coffee grounds, in other words, "takes the gun." He talks about the substitution of samples by the Chekists, but does not know how and when they did it (?!). He uses the testimony of an "eyewitness", but forgets to say that this comrade has a certificate from a mental hospital about the presence of a mental illness.
    In a word, as in a classic detective story: take an innocent or slandered person and begin to press him during interrogation. "Admit it, it will get easier right away!" And they admit it. And all would be nothing if after this frank confession there would be an endowment of punishment. But no! Immediately they are sentenced to the highest measure of social protection - execution. The verdict is final and not subject to appeal. Doesn't it look like anything? And notice the same "troikas" are in session, the same glass-eyed commissioners, only in Europe, the USA and Canada now.
    Maybe everything is much simpler and at the same time more complicated. We all remember how in London in the first week of the competition our team had one gold medal (I can be wrong, but what is disastrously small is for sure). The country began a murmur of fans and simply active citizens who remembered that both children’s sport in collapse and the legionnaires had overcome, and no one would win the competition for their homeland on one ski or barefoot today. And who is to blame? Of course, the State Committee for Sport and its glorious officials. Further - everywhere. Ata them, shameful wolves ... But is it necessary in the year of parliamentary elections? So they decided this year to transfer the arrows directly to the rear of the adversary - to the holy of holies - the IOC, WADA, other imperialist organizations in track and field athletics, etc. Look, they say that Western villains want to do with our sport. Athletes are not allowed to protect the colors of our flag. World officials led by the USA and England are the cause of all our troubles and defeats. And they played it out, re-translated the arrows, many really believed that our sport rests on the doping and exploitation of athletes. And so, what do you, gentlemen, do good at the Olympics? Nothing to do there!
    Bad if so. It will be even worse if our athletes, honest guys, go competing under the Olympic flag, and not under the Russian one. Perhaps this is precisely what the Americans are seeking, and they have been greatly helped.
  27. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 19 July 2016 11: 36
    0
    If I say tomorrow that Mr. Rodchenkov or (referring to him) Richard Maclaren - will they start to bleat from this?
  28. ZKVR
    ZKVR 19 July 2016 11: 40
    +4
    And who checked the wada. And why should we trust them. It's time for the FSB to take care of these lawyers. Everyone has a skeleton in the closet. And you need to make sure that every official thinks 10 times before speaking to Russia.
    And of course everything within the framework of their laws is of course. To allocate money and sue is suing each individually and with organizations, as they say, before losing a pulse.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 19 July 2016 16: 34
      +1
      only we need to be punished according to our laws, let them shake with fear to get into a Russian prison at the place of the bucket
  29. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 19 July 2016 12: 05
    +4
    Apparently, Russia will be removed from the Olympics. I listened to Maclaurin's report. In fact, he is unsubstantiated and stupid. But he achieved his goal. I agree with "1536" that our sports leaders screwed up a lot in this matter, and they exposed the honor of the country and the fate of our honest athletes at risk. But I believe the reason is deeper than 1536 thinks. Recently, one of the old honored football coaches (forgot his last name) about our failures said bluntly - do not expect high results from people who have received everything in this life, and not according to merit, for them football is not the goal of life, but a way of making money. moreover, the more, the better: for them CHE is an annoying obstacle on the way to pleasures at the celebration of life. But for talented boys who are not burdened with wealthy parents, the path to the team is oh, how thorny, unless there is a rich sponsor who will show them how money smells. But this is all lyrics. How to get out of this hole - I don't know. No matter how smelled "Putingate". They grabbed onto us with an iron grip, and d ..... v and d.r and we have enough.
  30. Verdun
    Verdun 19 July 2016 12: 07
    +6
    Unfortunately. big sport is already very far from Olympic ideals. voiced by Pierre de Coubertin. Big money is spinning in it, turning it more into a money show than into fair competition. A lot of money is spinning in it, for the sake of which they go to a lot. He became part of world politics. And without special preparations, it is simply impossible to achieve serious results. Another thing is that it remains unclear why the talk was about the Olympic Games in Sochi, if the meldonium, around which, according to the press, a scandal broke out, is prohibited only from the beginning of this year. It is possible that someday aspirin will also be on the doping list. And what, cancel the results of all competitions since the advent of aspirin? But this is only one side of the problem. The other side is the symptomatic situation around Mutko. She strongly resembles the situation with Serdyukov. Everyone is to blame around, but both Mr. Serdyukov and Mr. Mutko, leading the structures entrusted to them, have not seen or heard anything.)) While such a booth will continue, there is no belief in positive changes in the control of officials.
  31. demotivator
    demotivator 19 July 2016 12: 14
    +5
    In the photo on the left - "honest" American sportswoman Sirena Williams.
    On the right - Maria Sharapova, "getting drunk" on doping.
    See do not mistake.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 19 July 2016 16: 51
      -2
      It was necessary to insert this photo on the right, then it would be honest ..
      1. insular
        insular 20 July 2016 06: 07
        0
        Well, that liar and provocateur got caught.
        In Sharapova’s photo, the skin playing during a stroke and hypertrophied muscle mass are far from the same thing.
        Enter Siren Williams in the povskovik and look at the photo.
        Enter Maria Sharapova in the search box and see the photo.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 20 July 2016 11: 16
          -1
          Liar? Provocateur? =)))
          It goes without saying that Sharapova is more sympathetic, but putting a photo during a game on the one hand and from a magazine on the other is a lie and a provocation, but you don’t care.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 20 July 2016 11: 21
            0
            Quote: Rumata
            but to put a photo during the game on the one hand and from the magazine on the other is a lie and a provocation, but you don’t care.

            Well, here I put Sharapova in the game. What has changed?
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    2. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 19 July 2016 16: 55
      0
      With Sharapova, too, a muddy story .. Lives and trains in the US .. Think for yourself. By the way, the athlete who was allowed to the Games .. Also trains in the States ..)
  32. vell.65
    vell.65 19 July 2016 12: 16
    0
    Or maybe the whole truth, in spite of ethics, is to tell the media about the training of athletes from other countries that we have a drill for, then we will have less to justify ourselves. hi
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 13: 27
      0
      Quote: vell.65
      Or maybe the whole truth, in spite of ethics, is to tell the media about the training of athletes from other countries that we’ve drilled on us, then we’ll have less to justify ourselves

      Of course it’s worth it! And compare with ours, so that it would be clear that we are honest, but the whole world is not. Footballers are great, honestly went out and fought, not like these gayrope ala ronaldo, who cried like a girl.
    2. uskrabut
      uskrabut 19 July 2016 16: 32
      0
      but do not make excuses. no evidence - answer for the bazaar.
  33. SNIF
    SNIF 19 July 2016 12: 40
    0
    Yes Yes. "in Russia" this evil "is being consistently eradicated." as well as corruption and other lewdness. We try to eradicate it - it doesn't work! well, and if you can't overcome - head)
  34. X Y Z
    X Y Z 19 July 2016 12: 55
    +2
    Let's face it. We are not in a position to act like the Americans who came and dispersed all the judging in figure skating (at the same time appointing their athletes as champions), and at the same time the leadership of the federation. Our loud knock on the closing door will not frighten anyone and it will only be worse for us. Our functionaries in international organizations seem to be more worried about their places and further foreign careers, so there is zero assistance on their part. It seems that we also cannot yet block with someone influential and ask for their support (like China), we have few friends and now everyone shuns us. So in a desperate situation we have to listen with a serious face to delusional theories such as the coming of the Martians (excuse the FSB) from our Anglo-Saxon "partners" and it turns out that we can only give them an asymmetric answer. They caught us notably, very sorry for the athletes. But there is also a positive side - now we can, if we want, calmly figure out how this situation arose and specifically deal with the sports leadership and our functionaries in international sports organizations.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 19 July 2016 16: 30
      0
      We need to deal with the slanderers under our Russian law, but in order for the whole world to know about it. Then there will be no such setup because it will be scary. Sitting in our prison is not sugar.
      1. Lyubopyatov
        Lyubopyatov 19 July 2016 23: 05
        0
        Blacklist all world officials involved in this run-up against Russia on the blacklist for entry into the Russian Federation and Belarus, and let Lukashenko dare to object!
  35. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 19 July 2016 12: 58
    +5
    - Russia invests huge amounts of money in professional sports, stadiums, salaries of coaches, doctors, masseurs, athletes, gives them cars and apartments.

    When the result turns out to be insignificant - they start asking from the profile minister, he runs into the coaches, and they feed the wards with chemistry in order to reach the result and somehow justify the money spent and not lose cash flow.

    But do you need SUCH professional sport in the country?
  36. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 19 July 2016 13: 15
    +4
    The indistinct and incoherent muttering of our authorities on this issue is surprising. They, one might say, are dunked with their heads in the toilet, and everything is God's dew to them, they just flow around and justify themselves. Ugh, looking sick. They could not beat off such a terry crap, and even bring the bastards from the west to justice for the market! Irresponsibility and impunity have been the credo and motto of our authorities for 25 years! They have been striving for this for a long time. True, manual control of the leader shakes this concept a little, but no more. For a long time the thieves and the mentally retarded will be swaggering in the government and the State Duma. Family clans have already registered there. Already a generation of kids from the top of the USSR rules in the Russian Federation. Well, they will cheat a lot if their dads "leaked" the USSR to the West for candy wrappers and promises?
  37. antifa
    antifa 19 July 2016 13: 26
    +1
    I don’t understand - go to court on this McLaren, the rest and shake out several of them for libel
  38. Rumata
    Rumata 19 July 2016 13: 30
    -3
    Here the man correctly described, practically agreed in everything, especially about martyrs and trainers athletes, who even before the scandal had several dozen athletes suspended for doping. But a bunch of medals.

    http://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/russiateam/999132.html
  39. Fat
    Fat 19 July 2016 15: 27
    +1
    If you look at it, politics in the Olympic movement is bullshit. In 1980, there was no American team in Moscow and the national teams of a number of European countries ... in 1984 the USSR national team did not take part in the games in the USA. Only the Olympic movement and the athletes of the countries participating in the "boycott" lost. As a result, it was necessary to organize "games of goodwill" in 1986 ... So ... "And it will pass" ... Only the Olympic movement, the IOC will be screwed up, and the situation will not add authority to anti-doping committees. If the Russian is so bad, but there is no evidence ... Then others are just the same rotten through and through, the principle of "Caesar's wife is beyond suspicion" in this situation is quite moronic.
  40. Hope1960
    Hope1960 19 July 2016 15: 39
    0
    But for me the fleeting confession of Sharapova is very suspicious! More than once she refused to play for Russia and lives in the states, which means she plays on their field!
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 15: 42
      -3
      Quote: Hope1960
      But for me the fleeting confession of Sharapova is very suspicious! More than once she refused to play for Russia and lives in the states, which means she plays on their field!

      Totally bored, forgot Russian traditions !!! Russians are never given in or admitted, even under torture. No, he was not, he was not. This with mother’s milk was included in every Soviet person !!! SMERSH is needed again ... !!!!!
      1. Fat
        Fat 19 July 2016 19: 36
        0
        Quote: Al1977
        Quote: Hope1960
        But for me the fleeting confession of Sharapova is very suspicious! More than once she refused to play for Russia and lives in the states, which means she plays on their field!

        Totally bored, forgot Russian traditions !!! Russians are never given in or admitted, even under torture. No, he was not, he was not. This with mother’s milk was included in every Soviet person !!! SMERSH is needed again ... !!!!!
        Oh, Father and Mother! Please restrain yourself ... Political correctness is the conquest of "democracy". But Honor and honesty are from another field ... vegetables. With the "mother's milk" for the Soviet person came only the habit of "Telling ALL the truth about an" interesting "neighbor.
  41. Kenneth
    Kenneth 19 July 2016 15: 43
    0
    The full text of the report someone saw. If not in Russian, then at least in English.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 19 July 2016 16: 20
      -2
      Quote: Kenneth
      The full text of the report someone saw. If not in Russian, then at least in English.

      https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/20160718_ip_report_final

      3.pdf
      There is a lot there, I can show you a couple of points. For example, everyone here writes about meldonium, but what Wada said was in the "cocktails"
      Oral-Turinabol, which was later replaced by trenbolone, is more difficult to identify. In addition, it included Oxandrolone and Metasterone. The latter was generally not openly sold when it was sold, but was banned by IOC athletes back in 2005.
    2. Rumata
      Rumata 19 July 2016 16: 21
      -2
      Laboratory plans were also published, and how the substitution was described was described.
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 19 July 2016 16: 21
        -1
        And who exactly ..
      2. Rumata
        Rumata 19 July 2016 16: 24
        -3
        And these are the test results of athletes. Names changed to numbers for obvious reasons. In the middle, what they found, and on the right, what they reported in ADAMS (Anti-Doping Administration & Management System)
        But again, you can always say EXPRESSED ...
        1. B.T.V.
          B.T.V. 19 July 2016 16: 37
          +1
          You, so knowledgeable, will not tell, and the athletes have not yet banned the pregnancy, they say that pregnancy even improves athletic performance, thanks to the notorious hormones ?!
          1. Fat
            Fat 19 July 2016 20: 02
            +2
            ABOUT! To-Zh. Will soon be overwritten as prohibited. Acetylsalicylic acid "aspirin", and from especially dangerous apples (such a fruit) - a lot of iron, slightly increases hemoglobin in the analysis. Those who have never tasted homemade lard, strong tea, garlic and onions will be especially clean from "doping". Professionals will be raised purely on a salad of burdock and burdock oil (?) The prospect can be "calculated" further. An athlete who knows how to eat prana and not drink water is the one who deserves the title of "doping not using".
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 19 July 2016 20: 22
              0
              And why is it juggling? Do you think that anabolic steroids such as trenbulone are not dope?
        2. Rumata
          Rumata 19 July 2016 16: 38
          0
          The people are nervous "why is it done by checking the old Olympiads, everyone is against us." They are actually doing their job. Rodnechenko and some unnamed athletes claim that this cocktail was given to athletes in London. In order not to be unfounded and accuse just like that, the samples were checked again and found this very screaming-turinabol, and this is an anabolic. If they didn’t find anything, it would immediately discredit Rodnichenko's testimony and everyone would shout “You see, you’re digging under us, but everything is clean”.
          By the way, no one just does not check once again the analysis of past competitions, serious reasons are needed for this. No one will print the London samples because of some rumors ...

          Although, of course, everyone is against Russia and is ready to go to any forgeries to tarnish Russian sport. Above already arrest and exile those who testified gathered. Shapito circus
          1. B.T.V.
            B.T.V. 19 July 2016 16: 51
            +1
            Quote: Rumata
            The people are nervous "why is it done by checking old Olympiads, everyone is against us." They actually do their job


            And who pays for "this work of theirs", and yes, indeed: "why are the samples of only Russian athletes checked?"
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 19 July 2016 17: 04
              -2
              Quote: B.T.W.
              And who pays for "this work of theirs", and yes, indeed: "why are the samples of only Russian athletes checked?"

              Not only did they find doping with other athletes. EMNIP from Venezuela, a couple from Ukraine, some African countries. But compared with what they found in Russian athletes, these are trifles. They, too, by the way, were removed.

              Again. All this is not against athletes, but against those who directed all this. If athletes and coaches were involved, they would make noise and forget, but it was revealed how serious it all was and was supervised from above. This is a completely different matter.

              Would you treat the use of doping by individual athletes in the USA the same way, and if you knew that there is a whole department that oversees sample swapping, falsification of documents, has federal funding and support at the highest level?

              The entire team is removed in order to punish those who directed all this, but unfortunately athletes suffer. Personally, I would like to allow athletes, and everyone, but this discredits the IOC and they can also be understood.
              1. B.T.V.
                B.T.V. 19 July 2016 17: 41
                +1
                Excuse me, but you, in general, who ?! Why are you constantly citing the USA as an example ?!
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 19 July 2016 17: 54
                  -1
                  Quote: B.T.W.
                  Excuse me, but you, in general, who ?! Why are you constantly citing the USA as an example ?!

                  I mean who? I am a man, part-time agent of the State Department, and I bring the United States for clarity. Change the question to Papua New Guinea, will that change a lot?
                  1. B.T.V.
                    B.T.V. 19 July 2016 17: 58
                    +1
                    Quote: Rumata
                    Change the question to Papua New Guinea, will that change a lot?


                    Very much!

                    "Part-time agent of the State Department."
                    You, flatter yourself.

                    1. Lyubopyatov
                      Lyubopyatov 19 July 2016 22: 51
                      +1
                      He is Strugatsky by name.
            2. Kenneth
              Kenneth 19 July 2016 21: 36
              0
              Most are checked by the Chinese, according to the total number of checks per country.
          2. Fat
            Fat 19 July 2016 20: 27
            +2
            Quote: Rumata
            ,
            By the way, no one just does not check once again the analysis of past competitions, serious reasons are needed for this. No one will print the London samples because of some rumors ...

            Although, of course, everyone is against Russia and is ready to go to any forgeries to tarnish Russian sport. Above already arrest and exile those who testified gathered. Shapito circus

            "Roman law" - "THE LAW OF RETURN FORCE DOES NOT HAVE" not to mention the presumption of innocence. Nerves beat for ... (?) IMHO De Coubertin's wonderful undertaking was covered back in 1936, when the black athlete Owen puffed up the Aryan youth throughout the athletics program ... Twice after such a "dupa" ... The Olympics will become an ordinary programmed and programmed show with predefined champions to please politicians ("politicians")
            As IOC President Avery Brandage said in 1933:
            “The very foundation of the modern revived Olympic movement will be undermined if individual countries are allowed to restrict participation in the Games for reasons of origin, faith or race.” I’ll add on my own for other far-fetched reasons!
  42. pokermen
    pokermen 19 July 2016 15: 47
    0
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Quote: Alex_59
    And what is unfair? Do not dope! Doping? Do not get caught!


    For this to be true, evidence is needed, not statements: "I don't know how they open and change samples, but I know they do it." They also dragged the FSB to the pile, "it used to be the KGB." The mention of the KGB in a speech about doping cannot be called anything other than whipping.


    Doping has always been used, and the methods for determining it are in the role of a catch-up. It's like a race of armor and shell.
    And it does not do without special services. Another thing is that now the ideology in the country is money. So actually what should be surprised if the dude was paid more banally and he passed everything and everyone. Money doesn't smell
  43. uskrabut
    uskrabut 19 July 2016 16: 24
    0
    Article minus for the fact that we again mumble "we are offended, we do not deserve this." We deserve it, since we don't know how to snap back. Any unsubstantiated spread of false rumors is a criminal offense. Stop mumbling, it's time to punish. Otherwise, why the fuck are we special services? On gelendvagens and without them, there is someone to be limitless on the muskwabad.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 19 July 2016 16: 48
      0
      Quote: uskrabut
      Otherwise, why the hell are special services for us?

      Here the Strategic Missile Forces are needed, on machines more seriously, and not the special services .... Metastases have their roots, it's time to clean this world.
  44. German Titov
    German Titov 19 July 2016 16: 56
    +1
    Chairman of the NOC of Ukraine, S.N. Bubka refused to participate in this "anti-Russian sabbath." Igorek Miroshnichenko broke out on this occasion with an angry speech, calling S. Bubka "separat and" lugandon. "
    1. Lyubopyatov
      Lyubopyatov 19 July 2016 22: 58
      0
      Uvas one word was lost: "Where is the repeated record holder and Champion Sergey Nazarovich Bubka, and where OBERPOTS (never received a slurp), people's deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Miroshnichenko.
      In addition, MSiroshnichenko already got into the loaf, but so far only from his own.
  45. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 19 July 2016 17: 37
    -1
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    Putin himself reacted

    Now, if he reacted to the present ....
  46. Air Force Colonel
    Air Force Colonel 19 July 2016 18: 37
    +2
    Yes, you all look at the Williams sisters. But these are not sisters, these are brothers. Muzhikobaby.
    And they do not eat anything FORBIDDEN? Are we all blind? Are we all fools from comics?
    Look at our Mashenka Sharapova model of femininity and beauty in sports.
    This is the policy of mattresses. They’ll just invent something new, right there the old one is banned.
    1. pokermen
      pokermen 19 July 2016 19: 14
      0
      Now would compare the complex of African-Americans and whites No.
  47. kirillovleva
    kirillovleva 19 July 2016 20: 06
    +2
    Since the "mattress makers" have "ordered" us, then we must act by their methods - all associations that "yapped" at us - to deprive of accreditation in the Russian Federation, functionaries, including the IOC - the right to enter, arrest accounts - very many from the Council of Europe, for example yapping at us, they own shares in Russian companies. And the main thing is the asymmetric response - carpet bombing of the pro-American "moderate" opposition in Syria, to zero ..
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 19 July 2016 20: 29
      +1
      Quote: kirillovleva
      Since the "mattress makers" have "ordered" us, then it is necessary to act by their methods - all associations that "yapped" at us - to deprive of accreditation in the Russian Federation, functionaries, including the IOC - the right to enter, arrest accounts - very many from the Council of Europe, for example yapping at us, they own shares of Russian companies

      In response to such a response, our elite will be so deprived of "accreditations" that they will carry Putin out of the Kremlin with their feet. So, apart from complaints about double standards from top officials, we will not hear anything.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 19 July 2016 21: 28
        0
        In response to such a response, our elite will be deprived of "accreditations" - "Our elite" - Who is this? "That she will carry Putin out of the Kremlin with her feet." - The gut is thin and they don't have the strength to do this - they created opposition against such actions - the Russian Guard.
      2. kirillovleva
        kirillovleva 19 July 2016 21: 44
        0
        partly agree, but it is necessary to butt, they respect only the strong, we have already been cornered.
  48. Fat
    Fat 19 July 2016 21: 20
    0
    What are the "double standards"? I'm more interested in when WAD recognizes tomatoes as doping! Recognizes and retroactively affects the opinion. It is already clear to almost every inhabitant! Since 1900 to this day, 93,7% of champions have eaten this product, and what can we say about wheat bread and spring water - definitely DOPING, a hungry athlete simply CANNOT achieve such high results! WADA - Reform dramatically! To disperse the IOC as inappropriate ... As IOC President Avery Brandage said in 1933:
    “The very foundation of the modern revived Olympic movement will be undermined if individual countries are allowed to restrict participation in the Games for reasons of origin, faith or race.” In 1936, the Olympic Games in Hitler Germany were held. Jesse Owens blew Aryan athletes as many as four disciplines! I am sure he, in addition to tomatoes and mashed corn, did not disdain the most dangerous dope - Cucumbers and sunlight!
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 20 July 2016 11: 21
      +1
      What nonsense. VO really got dumber. Adults, smart guys scattered and everything was filled by shkolota or adult guys with the intelligence of a shkolota level. Every time I read the comments on the "new VO" they cause a fierce cognitive dissonance. Uzhs ...
  49. fa2998
    fa2998 19 July 2016 21: 34
    0
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    Putin himself reacted to the removal of the Russian Olympic team.

    Putin himself said that "THIS EVIL" is being eradicated in Russia, which means that this evil (doping) exists in Russian sport! Earlier, he admitted that there is corruption in Russia, and he is fighting it, but we have not seen any results yet .Acknowledging a problem does not mean that there are solutions.
    But to deprive the entire Russian national team of the Olympics is completely wrong - let those who get caught sit at home, and let the "clean" perform. This will be a lesson for the future. In general, in Bolshoi Sport there are already such achievements that are unattainable for an ordinary person. And all rich countries have developed pharmaceuticals and help athletes until their drug is banned. In this case, they have others that are not yet banned (which is not considered doping). And this is how everything goes, and it is legal and brings results. And we all indulge in meldonium. request hi
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 19 July 2016 21: 45
      0
      Verify the truth. It is necessary to develop pharmacology and not to raise high. :)
  50. Fat
    Fat 19 July 2016 21: 41
    +2
    I will add. The Olympic Movement has already experienced crises twice. Only in my memory. These are the "boycotts" of the USSR-USA 1980 and 1984, with half a sin, the fate of the Olympics in 1986 was decided by the games "GOOD WILL GAMES" ... Even then, the Olympic movement organized under the leadership of De Coubertin was killed. All GWGs are just "business and no politics (although ... who knows") The Olympic Movement has undergone many changes and even corruption scandals since then. I'm sure. If the Russian national team is not allowed to the next games, it will be a kapets for this noble undertaking in its current form. For the third time, only pale-faced (c) Chingachguk B.Z. step on the same rake.