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Incredible story about Stalin, butterflies and tanks

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Incredible story about Stalin, butterflies and tanks



This incredible история, recorded by Anatoly Polezhaev, occurred during the Great Patriotic War. Maybe it will seem to you that she has no relation to education? And I think it has. This story shows how the state used to treat scientists. Is it possible to assume that this happens in modern Russia or Belarus ...

1942 year. Winter. The war is in full swing. The Germans rod forward. At the headquarters of the Supreme Commander - a scheduled meeting. Finally, we discuss issues that are nasty and not very clear to the present marshals and the generals. Disguise. No, the generals know something about camouflage - in winter - white robes, in summer - khaki. But the Germans are somehow more interesting. Their airfields are not too visible from the air, but Tanks - for some reason, spotty and striped, like the uniform of uniforms in some units and units.

Comrade Stalin demands that the masking be dealt with urgently and closely, and not anyhow, but strictly scientifically, with serious justification. Like, the idea that green is green is inconspicuous, it does not go down. This is a hedgehog clear. Need something more versatile. Stalin is annoyed. She knocks on the table. Requires immediate action. Generals scratching their heads. Offer to copy the enemy's disguise. Supreme enraged. He needs principle and clarity. How it works and why. And who can do this?

Carefully squeaking throat, the word takes some freshly baked generalishko. He is from intellectuals. Maybe the parents are scientists, and maybe he himself, in his past life, managed to move science. The general timidly and confusedly reports that there was such a professor Shvanvich at Leningrad University. So he, at one time, headed the department of entomology, until it was dispersed in the early thirties, and was engaged in patronizing the coloring of the wings of butterflies. Maybe he will fit? Stalin hesitates vaguely and demands urgently, today, to bring this Shvanvich to Moscow and deliver him directly to him.

The generals relieved themselves from the chairs and run to execute orders. Scapegoat found. Even two. Because the initiative, you know ...

Call to Saratov, where the university was evacuated. No Schwanwich is there and was not. Someone says that he stayed in Leningrad. And there now, of course, the blockade.

Special flight is ready in twenty minutes. The plane flies into the blockade city. Schwanwich found at home in bed. He does not get up. Chicken broth in the entomologist poured directly on the plane.

At night he is already at Stalin's. The commander-in-chief peers incredulously at the overgrown face of the professors goner and expounds the essence of the task. A little nodledavshiesya Shvanvich attentively listens and, it seems, even understands something.

- Well, what, Professor, can help the army and the front?

“I can,” Shvanvich breathes in response.

- What does tebe need for this, professor?

- Three days and two artists ...

Three days later, Boris Shvanvich reports to the entire Headquarters. He avoids such tricky words as "mimicry" and "the principle of stereomorphism."

Everything is simple, elegant and affordable. The basis of the concept, if in a nutshell - projecting and highlighting to paint in a dark, shaded and concave - to highlight. The rest is details. Artists, under the guidance of Schwanchich, have already illustrated everything. Seasons and seasons. For clarity, on the table are three-dimensional plaster models, painted so that their shape completely falls apart and flattened.

Schwanwicz speaks of a “dismembering effect” and general patterns of disguise.

The generals and marshals are sitting with their mouths wide open.

A year later, Shvanvich again at a reception at Stalin:

- Ask what you want, professor ... Good job.

Shvanvich thinks literally for a second:

- I want the department of entomology. She was. But now it is not.

From 1944 to 1955, almost until his death, Boris Shvanvich was in charge of his favorite department.

Buried at Bolsheokhtinsky. On the grave there is a monument depicting the plan of the structure of the pattern of the wings of daytime butterflies. And - not a single tank. And he is a tank, there is. Just - not visible.
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  1. fregina1
    fregina1 17 July 2016 00: 16
    +53
    Genius! Thanks for the article! I did not know! But the professor is a genius! The best thing to watch is nature!
    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 17 July 2016 00: 58
      -30%
      This star has already understood with sem40-dot-ru
      1. Mister X
        Mister X 17 July 2016 14: 29
        +8
        Quote: Simpsonian
        This star has already understood with sem40-dot-ru

        Understood and not only there.
        They looked for tanks, and the believers found them in different places.
        Everyone's personal matter - to believe or not.

        Found in wiki:
        B. N. suggested that the cryptic effect of coloring is related to the fact that the pattern is perceived by a predator as a play of light and shadow on a relief surface and creates in some cases a “dissecting effect”, and in others it “flattens” three-dimensional objects.
        To illustrate his theory, B. N. Shvanvich created three-dimensional plaster models that looked like black-and-white photographs like a drawing on a butterfly's wings.

        On the grave of B. N. Shvanvich at the Bolsheokhtinsky cemetery in St. Petersburg, a monument has been erected depicting a plan of the structure of the pattern of the wings of butterflies according to his ideas.

        And not a word about Stalin and tanks.
        Oh how ...
        1. maxvet
          maxvet 17 July 2016 14: 34
          +5
          The deforming camouflage of the Red Army 1939 http://www.tigerscorner.ru/gallery/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=
          75:-1939-&catid=34:2010-12-02-12-49-34&Itemid=53
      2. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 17 July 2016 17: 03
        +7
        Quote: Simpsonian
        This star has already understood with sem40-dot-ru

        And there, by chance, the "star" did not understand about the Holocaust?
      3. Stas57
        Stas57 17 July 2016 19: 06
        +23
        beautiful legend, but no more.

        I advise you to start with
        "Camouflage of Red Army tanks 1930-1945"
        //www.booksgid.com/hardware/1210-kamufljazh-tankov-krasnojj-armii-1930.html

        //www.litmir.co/bd/?b=167991





        in fact-
        But actually, in 1941, at the geological and geographical branch of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR, the Commission for the Geological and Geographic Services of the Red Army was created, which included Academician A. Fersman - the head of the commission, Academician A. Frumkin, professors I. Gerasimov, K. Markov, E. Lavrenko, Yu. Liverovsky, M. Krylov, B. Zalessky, etc.

        Within the framework of this commission, there was a special group for disguising airfields. From the results of the work of this group, later the birth of landscape science. The group was supervised by the famous geologist Evgeny Krinov, a meteorite researcher. Since meteorites are mainly searched by ring structures, he worked best with aerial photography.

        Also in this group also worked psychologists - Boris Mikhailovich Teplov (head of the laboratory of visual perceptions of the camouflage department of the Military Engineering
        scientific and testing ground of the Red Army) and Krikor Kekcheev. They were engaged in both camouflage and night vision, as well as the perception of pilots. Teplov also later studied the psychology of commanders and officers - a decision-making system, mistakes, psychological stability, etc.

        So if Boris Schwanwich made his contribution, then as one of many.

        In general, this bike once again shows how little people know the history of our science, how it was used in general and especially in war

        //megakhuimyak.livejournal.com/740735.html
        1. Monarchist
          Monarchist 18 July 2016 06: 39
          +1
          Thank you for your comment . True, some will be disappointed: some Stas 57 came and broke a beautiful bike.
          1. Astrey
            Astrey 20 July 2016 18: 34
            +1
            Quote: Monarchist
            Stas 57 and broke a beautiful bike


            Polezhaev’s article is satirical and should be understood as such. But the tank painting scheme applied to the tombstone ...

            How many sectors are -15 or 17? And I did not see the tower.
        2. DMB_95
          DMB_95 18 July 2016 10: 37
          +7
          Quote: Stas57
          beautiful legend, but no more.

          Beautiful legends are also needed. Moreover, one day it may turn out that this is not a legend.
          1. Stas57
            Stas57 18 July 2016 13: 32
            +20
            Quote: DMB_95
            Beautiful legends are also needed. Moreover, one day it may turn out that this is not a legend.

            what for? and what is not a legend?
            Like all the fools and before the war did not prepare?
            stupid and cowardly generals found a scapegoat?
            without a professor, did everyone paint tanks in camo by themselves?
            you just think about the presentation of the material
            With a squeak of throat, a word takes some freshly baked generalishly. He is from the intelligentsia. Maybe the parents are scientists, and maybe he himself, in a past life, managed to push science forward.
            is that what?
            or that?
            The generals relieved themselves from the chairs and run to execute orders. Scapegoat found. Even two. Because the initiative, you know ...


            such an image of my country and its ruling elite-tyrants, reptiles, pathetic newly-minted generals, of course from science, for me personally is more shameful than what I said above
            1. DMB_95
              DMB_95 20 July 2016 09: 18
              0
              A beautiful legend is a tank hidden in the wings of a butterfly, not "dumb and cowardly generals."
    2. Gado
      Gado 17 July 2016 14: 53
      +5
      Reading such articles on VO, for some reason Lermontov's verse always creeps into my head: "Yes, there were people in our time ..." And I ask myself - what happened to us over the years, why "Heroes are not you"?
      1. PKK
        PKK 17 July 2016 15: 17
        +2
        Anatoly touched. Great Stalin and the Professor with a capital letter, two geniuses, made History. And there were many such turns and they were constantly. Now is a similar time.
    3. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 17 July 2016 15: 53
      +8
      The article is "out of the hand". The Institute of Disguise has existed since 1932. And the developments were such that Voroshilov was shown the field and said that there were 20 fighters on the field. Voroshilov: "Show the first one." "You are standing on it, Comrade Marshal." Our tanks were not camouflaged until 1947. This is not clear to me: there was an institute, there were developments, but nothing was used. So there was nothing to praise Stalin for. There was no camouflage in the Red Army, except for camouflage nets over the trenches or NP and over the spiers of Leningrad. If anyone wants to put a minus, then let him first find a photo of a tank or armored vehicle in camouflage paint. Just don't cut it from feature films, otherwise you will get a T-44 or T-55. And I almost forgot: the destroyers of the Navy were camouflaged.
      1. blind
        blind 17 July 2016 16: 24
        +2
        that is, the institute was and there was no disguise? somehow it does not fit
      2. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 17 July 2016 17: 25
        +4
        Quote: shasherin_pavel
        first let him find a photo of a tank or armored vehicle in camouflage.

        Do not know how to use Google? Well, keep:






        1. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 17 July 2016 18: 16
          +5
          [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = shasherin_pavel] then first find a photo of a tank or armored vehicle in camouflage. [/ quote]
          Do not know how to use Google? Well, keep:
          1. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 17 July 2016 18: 21
            +2
            [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = shasherin_pavel] then first find a photograph of a tank or armored vehicle in camouflage. [/ quote]
            You do not know how to use Google? Well keep: [/ quote]
            1. AllXVahhaB
              AllXVahhaB 17 July 2016 18: 22
              +2
              [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = shasherin_pavel] then let him first find a photo of the tank or armored vehicle in camouflage color. [/ quote]
              You do not know how to use Google? Well keep: [/ quote] [/ quote]
              1. AllXVahhaB
                AllXVahhaB 17 July 2016 18: 24
                +1
                [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = AllXVahhaB] [quote = s
                hasherin_pavel] then let him first find a photo of the tank or armored vehicle in camouflage. [/ quote]
                You do not know how to use Google? Well keep: [/ quote] [/ quote] [/ quote]
          2. Monarchist
            Monarchist 18 July 2016 06: 49
            -1
            Major, photo confirmation that the technique is camouflaged, but the date of the photo is desirable
            1. Mwg
              Mwg 18 July 2016 17: 24
              +1
              Fighters on the BA without shoulder straps, the date of the picture was until 1942. The rest of the equipment was all pre-war, in the Second World War it was 1941, the beginning of 1942
        2. Mister X
          Mister X 17 July 2016 18: 16
          -2
          Quote: AllXVahhaB
          Do not know how to use Google? Well, keep:

          We are able to google.
          In the comments above, maxvet already dropped a link to an article with a photo.

          You have posted a photo of the T-28 from the report on the work "Deforming painting of tracked and wheeled vehicles."

          Here's another photo: car M-1

          Important:
          The resulted camouflage is not typical, but applied in a single copy. specifically for testing deforming color, held in the summer of 1939, at the test site in Kubinka.
          In total, 17 machines from which 6 machines had a large-deforming paint, 6, finely stained deforming, and 5 machines, the usual protective coating were put to the test.
          The report contains conclusions and recommendations.
          1. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 17 July 2016 18: 25
            +1
            Quote: Mister X
            Important:
            The given camouflage is not typical, but applied in a single copy specifically for testing the deforming color, which took place in the summer of 1939 at the Kubinka training ground.
            In total, 17 machines from which 6 machines had a large-deforming paint, 6, finely stained deforming, and 5 machines, the usual protective coating were put to the test.
            The report contains conclusions and recommendations.
          2. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 17 July 2016 18: 26
            +3
            Quote: Mister X
            Important:
            The given camouflage is not typical, but applied in a single copy specifically for testing the deforming color, which took place in the summer of 1939 at the Kubinka training ground.
            In total, 17 machines from which 6 machines had a large-deforming paint, 6, finely stained deforming, and 5 machines, the usual protective coating were put to the test.
            The report contains conclusions and recommendations.
            1. Mister X
              Mister X 17 July 2016 18: 45
              -5
              I thank for the photo, but as I wrote above - I know how to use search engines.
              The given photos of the ACS and the tank in camouflage are impressive.
              I heard the opinion that they were painted by the forces of the crew of a combat vehicle if there was such an opportunity.
              The institute was a disguise, there were guides, but there could be no paint.
              What do you think?
              1. AllXVahhaB
                AllXVahhaB 17 July 2016 19: 58
                +7
                Quote: Mister X
                What do you think?

                IMHO, there was no mass camouflage, of course - Soviet tanks were not a piece product, but a mass one. Most of the cars were of a standard color: green in the summer and white in the winter (although the winter color can be considered camouflage, since the person. When repainting, at times, showed imagination))). But at the same time, there were separate parts, for example, 1 tank corps, where camouflage painting was in the order of things, and what was applied according to certain rules ... So, it was argued that there were no camouflage painting in the Soviet army until 1947 in general - fundamentally wrong !!!
                Shl. Question: what to consider as camouflage coloring? It will come down:
                1. Mister X
                  Mister X 17 July 2016 22: 48
                  +3
                  Quote: AllXVahhaB
                  there were separate parts, such as the 1 tank corps, where camouflage paint was in the order of things, and it was applied according to certain rules ...

                  I agree with that. It sounds plausible, because the corps commander Mikhail E. Katukov is an experienced military leader.

                  Quote: AllXVahhaB
                  Shl. Question: what to consider as camouflage coloring? It will come down:

                  It will come down.
                  But we have drifted away from the topic of Stalin, Schwanchich and butterflies. smile
      3. Serg koma
        Serg koma 17 July 2016 20: 03
        +6
        Quote: shasherin_pavel
        first let him find a photo of a tank or armored vehicle in camouflage.

        T-34 tank with a stamped turret and in two-color camouflage:
        sandy yellow spots on a standard dark green base. The white number "268" is visible on the side of the tower.
        Leningrad Front, September 1943.
        (published here http://pro-tank.ru/blog/645-tanki-t-34-camouflage)
        ИСУ-152 http://migrated.ifokus.se/uploads/95b/95bb3bfc913bb230270953cda57d3232/exp049-13
        .jpg
        T-34 1st Guards Tank Brigade in ambush. 1941 - http://thelib.ru/books/00/17/31/00173151/i_022.jpg
        Armored car - please BA-10
        http://nacekomie.ru/forum/files/201209/21159_1673d35c9357ae50691c10fa00070dd0.jp
        g
        Quote: shasherin_pavel
        If anyone wants to put a minus, then let him first find a photo

        You do not regret yourself, do not regret. Do not value your reputation at all ... laughing
        drinks
      4. Stas57
        Stas57 17 July 2016 20: 45
        +2
        . There was no camouflage in the Red Army, except for camouflage nets over trenches or NPs and over the spiers of Leningrad. If anyone wants to put a minus, then let him first find a photo of a tank or armored vehicle in camouflage.

        did the Germans have a three-color camo on all vehicles?
        and in 41m what is the main German color in the Wehrmacht, is it not a field dog?
        when did the SS get flecktarn?
      5. andj61
        andj61 18 July 2016 11: 49
        +3
        Quote: shasherin_pavel
        Our tanks were not camouflaged until 1947. I don’t understand this: there was an institute, there were developments and nothing was applied

        Definitely not camouflaged? From the chronicle I remember the white tanks in the winter. And yet a number of sources cannot agree with you ... request
      6. 2ez
        2ez 18 July 2016 13: 41
        +3
        Look at the film and photographic materials of the Great Patriotic War. There, without really bothering, you can find a lot of movies and photos of Soviet white tanks in winter. And I didn't see the white camouflage coats of the Germans in their photos, but here they are all too often, even near Moscow. Read the memoirs of veterans, there are references to the camouflage of our troops. I remember the memoirs of Vladimir Lavrinenkov, twice hero of the Soviet Union, an ace pilot, by the way, who fought with Akhmet-Khan Sultan. He wrote that in November 1942 he was sent on an aerial reconnaissance mission in the Stalingrad region. He saw one dark spot on the ground, passed over the area several times at ultra-low altitude, and saw a mass of tanks. He flew to his airfield and immediately reported that he had found German tanks. He was quietly advised to remain silent. He realized that our offensive was being prepared, but one crew was poorly disguised. And he was sent there to check our disguise, without warning, in order to be more objective. Book: "Return to Heaven"
      7. Lexa-149
        Lexa-149 19 July 2016 04: 07
        +2
        By the way, the Kremlin was also "camouflaged".
    4. ava09
      ava09 18 July 2016 16: 18
      0
      "Genius" in that situation, a completely different Man, and some donkeys once again "Created an idol" ...
    5. SveTok
      SveTok 19 July 2016 10: 13
      +2
      Only now people are beginning to understand what Stalin is and thanks to whom the grandfathers won that crazy war.
    6. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 25 July 2016 20: 25
      0
      I read this story more than 10 years ago on the site bigler.ru Only there was more drama there.
  2. Basil50
    Basil50 17 July 2016 00: 27
    +25
    Thanks to the author that clearly and readily told about the fact that STALIN did not hesitate to ask for advice on issues that he did not own.
    1. bastard
      bastard 17 July 2016 09: 48
      +21
      Quote: Vasily50
      Thanks to the author that clearly and readily told about the fact that STALIN did not hesitate to ask for advice on issues that he did not own.

      One of my senior comrades, much older than me (health and long life to him), said that you should not be shy to ask, because if you do not ask, then there is a risk of remaining a fool for the rest of your life.
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 18 July 2016 07: 14
      0
      Vasily, you read the comments of the forum users stas57, maxvet, sherin pavla? If their arguments do not convince you then ...
  3. Vladycat
    Vladycat 17 July 2016 01: 01
    +20
    The criterion of the current leader. One person cannot know everything, and listening to parasites to the bosses is a bastard. Sliding - it used to be better :(. The caste of leaders - it must be nurtured, on the basis of many principles forgotten. And limited in luxury. (But then we won’t find anyone who wants these places)
    1. bastard
      bastard 17 July 2016 09: 29
      +15
      Quote: Vladycat
      . Caste of leaders - it must be nurtured, on the basis of forgotten by many principles.

      You're not right. It is necessary to build a system in which both managers and performers will grow, each in accordance with individual abilities for a particular form of activity.
      The caste has already been raised. Look at the current hereditary structure of oligarchy and power. Key positions are occupied by individuals who have neither the proper abilities nor intellectual prerequisites, except perhaps racing on Gelendvagens, baths with champagne and indiscriminate mating with human females in "elite" nightclubs and other habitats of the representatives of the aforementioned castes mentioned by you.
      I will not further develop this topic, there are a lot of thinking people and they understand everything.
      I’ll put a plus, because I understood your idea, it’s just that you put it wrong, in a hurry you did not find the necessary comparison. hi

      PS: pay attention, the scientist did not ask for a prize as a reward, not money and not glory and orders. He asked DEPARTMENT! To develop knowledge and pass it on to others.
    2. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 17 July 2016 09: 43
      +6
      Quote: Vladycat
      And limit in luxury. (But then we will not find anyone who wants to go to these places)

      there are. oddly enough, people who support the idea still exist.
    3. bastard
      bastard 17 July 2016 10: 35
      +4
      Quote: Vladycat
      And limit in luxury. (But then we will not find anyone who wants to go to these places)

      Here is what A. Menyailov writes about this in his book "Durilka. Notes of the Chief Executive's Son-in-Law":

      When, back in the Soviet period, some luxury goods (gold, etc.) went up, my father-in-law sighed and said that now butter would be worse.
      I did not understand and expressed doubt.
      Offended, he explained:
      “Those who are put in charge of the oil will want to use the luxuries in the volumes they are used to.”

      Now I would say this: no matter what happens outside, the trauma remains and controls the performer.

      Speaking of oil. Indeed, after some time, it became unpleasant to smear domestic butter on bread: large drops of water began to protrude under the knife.
  4. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 17 July 2016 01: 20
    +3
    Great statia, it is necessary to remember and know!
  5. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 17 July 2016 02: 34
    +2
    Now compare the present with today's.
  6. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 17 July 2016 04: 12
    +7
    This is the style of a leader who should know "how it works", not "so it was."
  7. Civilian62
    Civilian62 17 July 2016 04: 37
    +10
    What an unusual view of the war ... A wonderful article, even less sarcasm. IMHO
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  9. miv110
    miv110 17 July 2016 07: 08
    +4
    I think that one cannot do without a portrait of the hero of an article. Such people must be known in person and in memory of such people, memorial plaques must be opened!
  10. miv110
    miv110 17 July 2016 07: 16
    +19
    Boris Nikolaevich Shvanvich
    1. Duke
      Duke 19 July 2016 02: 43
      +1
      Boris Nikolaevich Shvanvich
  11. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 17 July 2016 07: 23
    +6
    The story is interesting. But the style of presentation .. for street gopota. The vast majority of readers of this resource have sufficient knowledge in various fields to understand and highly specialized topics.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 17 July 2016 07: 39
    +8
    B.N. Schwanwich 1930 replaced M. N. Rimsky-Korsakov, who left the LSU, in the position of and. about. professor and the head of the department of general entomology. As a result of the reorganization, the department was soon merged with the department of invertebrate zoology and finally stood out of its composition only in 1944. All this time, B. N. Shvanvich worked in the entomology laboratory, which became the basis of the department during its reconstruction .
  13. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 17 July 2016 07: 49
    +9
    Stalin did well, he saw at the root of the problem.
  14. Victor N
    Victor N 17 July 2016 08: 29
    -9
    Archaic management style. Now they will call the President of the RAS, at best, the director of the institute. They will not be reduced to a specific specialist, since they are not able to delve into research.
  15. tuts
    tuts 17 July 2016 08: 33
    +18
    The article is interesting from the point of view of anti-Soviet propaganda
    Author, why is this in the article?

    -No, generals know something about disguise .... But Germans everything somehow more interesting.
    -Caution squealing throat
    freshly baked Generally. He is from the intelligentsia.
    -General timidly and confused reports
    -Scapegoat found.
    -Chicken stock in entomologist poured
    -He avoids such tricky wordsas “mimicry” and “principle of stereomorphism”
    -Generals and Marshals are sitting with open mouths.

    Tell the author do you really think the country's top military leadership is idiots?
  16. Ruudi 34
    Ruudi 34 17 July 2016 08: 40
    +22
    Stalin, for all his harshness, did not become like a gopot. He could not address the professor to "you". The author really upset YOU.
    1. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 17 July 2016 16: 00
      +6
      Stalin never shouted or pounded on the table with his fists. When he was angry with a person, he spoke very quietly and made long pauses between sentences ... It was then that everyone understood that a person who pissed Stalin out of himself had to apply a lot of skill in order to correct the situation in his favor. The extreme degree of his anger ... as he silently walked out of the meeting room to his private room. With all he was on "you", special trust, when he addressed only by his patronymic without a name.
      1. your1970
        your1970 19 July 2016 00: 33
        +3
        shasherin_pavel
        A small fragment about Stalin's anger
        “I looked at Stalin. He was pale and looked with wide eyes at Zhigarev, apparently, with difficulty comprehending what had happened. It was felt that he was stunned not by why such a huge number of aircraft are still not at the front, as he knew, only the reasons were not established, and that conviction and confidence with which the general spoke a lie.
        Finally, Stalin's face turned pink, it was clear that he had pulled himself together. Turning to A.I. Shakhurin and N.P. Seleznev, he thanked them and said goodbye. I wanted to follow their example, but Stalin motioned to stop me. He walked slowly to the general. His hand began to rise. "Really hit?" - a thought flashed through my mind.
        - Scoundrel! - with an expression of deepest contempt Stalin said and lowered his hand. “Get out!”
        For what?
        701 AIRCRAFT did not hit the front (the beginning of the war was not in 1945, the PTRs were almost individually divided near Moscow, but here the air army is idle) !!!!!!!
    2. Idiot
      Idiot 19 July 2016 05: 33
      +1
      Quote: Rudi 34
      Stalin, for all his harshness, did not become like a gopot. He could not address the professor to "you". The author really upset YOU.


      Quite right! There is not a single documentary evidence of Stalin's rudeness in relation to the interlocutors. Even Zhigarev, through whose fault more than 700 aircraft did not get to the front in 1942, he simply called a "scoundrel", did not bring him to trial, he simply ordered him to be sent to the inner district for further service.
  17. Mytholog
    Mytholog 17 July 2016 08: 43
    +10
    The bike is beautiful. Beautiful. Fascinating. But ... not reliable, alas.

    1. It is enough to look at the photo of Soviet tanks in, for example, the Berlin operation. No darken-brighten spotty camouflage.
    On a b / w photo - it would be clearly visible.

    2.
    From 1944 to 1955, almost until his death, Boris Shvanvich was in charge of his favorite department.

    Look at the photo of the grave - the date of death. Yeah, 1970 ...

    3. It is doubtful that the DETAILS of the masking issue are decided personally by the Supreme. The general solution is yes, perhaps. Although it is doubtful, see paragraph 1. If Stalin made such a decision, they would try not to fulfill ...

    PS I'm tedious, I know :)
    1. Қarabas
      Қarabas 17 July 2016 13: 21
      +1
      Quote: Mytholog
      PS I'm tedious, I know :)


      Also lazy


      http://necropol.org/bo-pr-shvanvich2.jpg
      1. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 17 July 2016 16: 04
        -3
        necropolis! Yes, we saw a photo of the monument already. Photo tank give in camouflage.
        1. Қarabas
          Қarabas 17 July 2016 18: 22
          -2
          Quote: shasherin_pavel
          Photo tank give in camouflage.

          Polay.
    2. Mister X
      Mister X 17 July 2016 14: 24
      +2
      Quote: Mytholog
      Look at the photo of the grave - the date of death. Yeah, 1970 ...

      Look at the photo of the grave again.

      70s are the date of death of Elena Konstantinovna Shvanvich. Maybe his wife.
      And below - the date of death of Boris Nikolayevich: 1957.
      Quote: Mytholog
      PS I'm tedious, I know :)

      You are not boring, you are not attentive and not curious wink
  18. R-22
    R-22 17 July 2016 08: 47
    +18
    So it may be so, but the presentation style is provocative and not consistent with historical facts, you are respected not the Author, but the real one - the author-world-door-ball-- and nothing less, what kind of dialogue is this? -

    "- Well, professor, can you help the army and the front?"

    “I can,” Shvanvich breathes in response.

    - What does tebe need for this, professor?

    - Three days and two artists ... "

    This is a conversation of a Georgian gopnik, and not a leader of peoples; IOSIF VIRSARIONOVICH STALIN never did such a thing, the author is not a good and not an honest person ...
    1. peta locksmith
      peta locksmith 17 July 2016 09: 35
      -4
      and how do you know how Stalin said and what you allowed yourself, you, you personally were there?
      1. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 17 July 2016 16: 07
        +3
        Read the memoirs of people who really communicated with Stalin. and more .. watch Stalin's speeches at the congresses and parade on November 7, 1941. Stalin "NE" spoke like this.
  19. magician
    magician 17 July 2016 09: 18
    +3
    Article plus. It proves once again that the land of Russia is rich in nuggets. The Russo-Japanese War: the coloring of the ships of the Russian and Japanese squadrons and how this affected the fighting, and later the development of camouflage. The site had a lot of articles about her, this suggests that disguise in modern combat plays an important role.
  20. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 17 July 2016 09: 21
    +3
    Good article (+).
    A little twisted manner of presentation. (IMHO)
  21. Noisy
    Noisy 17 July 2016 09: 51
    +11
    This article is a typical tale of the rotten intelligentsia about stupid and cowardly military men who can do nothing and a savior-scientist who came and did everything in three days. And the tyrant Stalin, who crawled to the scientist on his knees and then did everything that the scientist wanted ... In fact, work on camouflage painting began in 1936, the stupid Bolsheviks did not reduce the department, but enlarged it. The scientist was not left to die in Leningrad, like many thousands of other citizens (they are rubbish, but the scientist is yes, an unjustly forgotten genius) and they were taken to the evacuation ... And a lot of all kinds of nonsense ...
  22. midshipman
    midshipman 17 July 2016 09: 52
    +4
    An interesting event and true. In my life, too, there were similar events only in the technical field and during a conversation with D.F. Ustinov. I have the honor.
  23. miv110
    miv110 17 July 2016 09: 53
    +16
    I delved into the topic after the first emotions and realized that the text of the article was taken out of the context of another source - http://blog.fontanka.ru/posts/145335/ I quote:
    "The legend is certainly beautiful, but ...
    1. It is known for certain that Boris Nikolayevich Shvanvich was not at the reception of Joseph Vissarionovich not only in the winter of 1942, but never at all.
    2. The Department of Entomology of Leningrad State University (or rather, its small part, which does not fall under the draft in the army) actually stopped its work in the fall of 1941, and together with the university was evacuated to Saratov in March 1942. It was with the department that Boris Nikolaevich and his son left the besieged city .
    3. The department resumed its work immediately after returning from evacuation in 1944.
    4. The deforming or masking coloring of tanks was developed, improved and applied in the tank troops of the Red Army since 1920. In 1939, NIIBT tested various camouflage schemes for wheeled and tracked vehicles.

    However, not all so simple. Let's assume that Boris Nikolaevich worked not only to study the housefly, but to some extent participated in the creation of a protective disguise. It is known that in Leningrad at the beginning of the war extraordinary measures were taken to preserve and camouflage the most significant objects. The development was commissioned by the GOI (State Optical Institute) and was conducted under the guidance of physicist Sergei Ivanovich Vavilov.

    It seems, and where does the professor entomologist, who studied butterflies all his life? I can't answer directly yet, but remember how Igor Golubentsev's story began - "Somehow, a long time ago, Yura Slyusarev, Professor of the Department of Invertebrate Zoology, St. Petersburg State University." Link to the source of information - Yuri Slyusarev. However, in the scientific world of St. Petersburg-Leningrad, there were two Georgy (Yuri) Slyusarevs. One really is our contemporary professor-zoologist. But there is one more professor Slyusarev Georgy Georgievich (1896 - 1987) - an optical physicist, an employee of the GOI. His scientific works were published under the editorship of Sergei Ivanovich Vavilov. Perhaps his stories served as the basis for that legendary story, and Boris Nikolaevich really took some part in the creation protective masking of Leningrad. "End of quote. Something like that.
    1. Igor V
      Igor V 17 July 2016 14: 27
      +6
      Comments are deeper than the article. Thanks for this.
  24. Colonel
    Colonel 17 July 2016 11: 35
    +3
    Unique bullshit !!!
  25. Igor V
    Igor V 17 July 2016 14: 38
    +4
    Even at the first publication of this story (in the comments about Mongolia, it seems), the squeaking newly-made generalishka especially struck the memory. A sort of greenhorn requiring a fly. I would like to see the author’s warm meeting with any Soviet general general! What to publish? After all, it is clear that camouflage work was not carried out by one person, but was widely organized. For example, in the 41st year, the Kremlin was painted on the Khodynka field, along with the Moscow River, and more than one German who broke through bombed Khodynka, thinking it was the Kremlin.
  26. alpamys
    alpamys 17 July 2016 15: 45
    +1
    a photo with disguise examples in this way wasn’t bad,
    probably this is something like this?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 18 July 2016 18: 29
      0
      EMNIP, "light nose, dark stern" - this is not a disguise, but, basically, a forced decision. For in the aft part there are exhaust devices of the power plant, which contaminate the entire board with fuel combustion products. And in order not to regularly wash and tint the board in the stern with ball paint, they decided to paint the stern black.
  27. Snoop
    Snoop 17 July 2016 16: 59
    +9
    As for the fact that the Soviet generals were essentially downs according to this article, I do not agree.
    The question of camouflaging troops in the USSR was given close attention. So back in 1919, the Higher School of Military Disguise was formed. In 1927, three types of camouflage clothing appeared: a white winter suit, a summer suit with bunches glued to it, a summer green hoodie with brown applications.
    In our country, in order to camouflage a fighter, in the beginning of the 30s, suits were developed with a unified deforming pattern of large amoeba-like spots, which, combined with the baggy nature of the costume itself, well “broke” the silhouette of a person. It was they who “broke up”, and did not try to merge it with the surrounding area, as they try to do in modern hunting suits. The colors of the picture were selected taking into account different terrain and time of the year, for example, black deforming spots on a grassy-green background for summer, or a dirty brown-yellow background with dark brown “amoebas” for autumn. Suits were worn over uniforms and equipment, access to which was through special slots (later appeared among the Germans). The huge hood was pulled directly onto a steel helmet or cap and concealed the outlines of the shoulders and head. In addition to costumes, carpets imitating grass, masks for machine guns, an original camouflage fringe tape with a bast woven into it were developed - it was wrapped around the head and shoulders.
    Engaged in technology. The Air Force Research Institute in 1936 experimented with aerodrome tests of various colors of airplanes, standard painting, fine-spotted camouflage, large-spotted camouflage. According to the test results, it was revealed that up to a height of 2000 m, the fine-spotted and large-spotted aircraft masked equally well on the ground, and above 2000 m the fine-spotted camouflage was more effective. The large-spotted camouflage was adopted by the Air Force just before the war.
    Regarding spotted German tanks in 42. Until the age of 43, their standard color was dark gray. Camouflage was applied on its own, by the crew. In winter, the Germans painted tanks with white.
  28. Koshak
    Koshak 17 July 2016 17: 32
    0
    Bionics is the future! "So let's drink to cybernetics! drinks "(" Prisoner of the Caucasus ")
  29. visitork67
    visitork67 17 July 2016 21: 14
    +2
    The text of the "article" is licked up to the letter from one of dozens (if not hundreds) of sites. There is a word plagiarism in Russian. The artist (the author is incorrect to name) does not paint.
  30. Nicola Bari
    Nicola Bari 18 July 2016 11: 34
    +2
    It looks like a joke more, with genre-cowardly downs, a brilliant scientist, almost ruined by the Savets power and Stalin himself, a la Georgian gopnik, although, of course, the topic itself is interesting.
  31. BastaKarapuzik And
    BastaKarapuzik And 18 July 2016 23: 00
    0
    It was very interesting to read (nonetheless). Indeed, in nature, you can peep a lot, or rather, only in it is possible.
    We have already written above that the story was made up, Stalin was not like that in it, the generals were not really fools (in disguise for sure), and they were prudently engaged in the science of this same disguise at least long before the start of the war.
    Well, my eye caught on a phrase-pebble in the garden of modern Russia (and Belarus). In my opinion, it was not necessary to contrast the historical figures and those living today (especially on the basis of a fictional story). This leads to separation. What for?
    It was enough to write (for example):
    ..that was the attitude to science in the past, This is an example for current and future generations.

    Although the story itself is a special positive example of the attitude towards science (scientists) in itself not contains, rather the opposite. (In the 42nd year, when pressed, they remembered a scientist dying from starvation, whose trace was almost lost in general)
    And commentators are already being led by this small, I hope, not a special provocation.
    All strictly my opinion, which I do not impose.
    Thank you for attention.
  32. VB
    VB 19 July 2016 12: 39
    0
    Eternal memory to the GREAT RUSSIAN SCIENTIST! And the person who understood and appreciated, thereby saved thousands of lives.
  33. Ilya
    Ilya 22 July 2016 19: 35
    0
    The article is interesting, but the presentation is not to my liking.
  34. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 18 December 2016 17: 20
    0
    Red Square was masked back in September 1941.