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Building on the Suez Canal in exchange for tourists?

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The media publish materials that indicate Egypt’s interest in Russian investments in the creation of industrial infrastructure along the second line of the Suez Canal. Such information publishes RIA News With reference to the newspaper "Izvestia", and the source of information is the State Duma deputy, representing the international affairs committee Anvar Makhmutov.

MP declares:
The Egyptians offer Russia as one of the closest partners to take part in the development of industrial areas adjacent to the channel. This is proof of the level of confidence that Egypt has towards us.


Building on the Suez Canal in exchange for tourists?


Against this background, the following information is noteworthy. According to the same Makhmutov, official Cairo is taking steps aimed at lifting the restrictions for Russian tourists to visit Egypt. Recall that the ban on sales of tours to Egypt from Russia was adopted after the terrorist attack on the Sinai Peninsula, when an explosion occurred on board an aircraft of a Russian airline. The Russian special services said that the organizers of the attack were persons involved in ISIS activities in Egypt.

Anwar Makhmutov adds that the Egyptian authorities, among other things, are seeking to act as mediators in deepening cooperation between Russia and the monarchies of the Persian Gulf, including Saudi Arabia.

In this regard, there are questions, one of which can be formulated as follows: how much can Russia benefit from investments in the development of the Suez Canal amid claims of the need to develop the Northern Sea Route and the opportunity to participate in the construction of the canal in Nicaragua? And is everything calm in terms of Egyptian security for Russian tourists? Or after the "discovery" of Turkey, Egypt, too, "open" in two accounts? ..
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  1. USSR 1971
    USSR 1971 12 July 2016 07: 14
    +20
    We have built so much for the whole world while we were the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, that we still remember. However, one still has to be prepared to defend one's geopolitical interests where they built something. Relevant lessons have been given.
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 12 July 2016 07: 22
      +28
      Quote: USSR 1971
      We have built so much for the whole world while we were the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, that we still remember. However, one still has to be prepared to defend one's geopolitical interests where they built something. Relevant lessons have been given.

      Yes, they did, but what did they get in return? Now we also need to build, but on others, i.e. only on mutually beneficial terms, and not just for the sake of proletarian solidarity. You wrote that you must be ready to defend your geopolitical interests where they built something, but otherwise why? We will build the infrastructure, industrial enterprises, and tomorrow our irreconcilable "partner" will come there and will use it for free, but we need it ??? Yes, we ourselves have a lot of investment sites in the country and there will be enough for 100 years in advance, here, too, it is necessary to build and lay and grow.
      1. volot-voin
        volot-voin 12 July 2016 08: 52
        +4
        Quote: Tatar 174
        Yes, they did, but what did they get in return? Now we also need to build, but on others, i.e. only on mutually beneficial terms

        Any work must be paid accordingly. Building is profitable, the main thing is not to do charity work at the expense of the Russian Federation. He will build, sell weapons and high-tech products, develop deposits, if this is not done, then partners from overseas, the European Union or China will come to our place.
        1. Winnie76
          Winnie76 12 July 2016 10: 16
          +4
          Quote: volot-voin
          Any work must be paid accordingly. Building is profitable, the main thing is not to do charity work at the expense of the Russian Federation.

          The article is missing the main thing. We will do infrastructure for real money or, as always, an irrevocable loan. In the first case, with two hands FOR
        2. WKS
          WKS 12 July 2016 10: 55
          +2
          Build, and then write off debts, as for the Aswan Dam? Probably so they want.
      2. Bramb
        Bramb 12 July 2016 09: 33
        +3
        Quote: Tatar 174
        Yes, they did, but what did they get in return?

        NATO was far from our borders. In such states, the states did not deploy their military bases and citizens had a restful sleep.
        Is this not enough? We recall the war and look at the Donbass.
    2. Shick
      Shick 12 July 2016 07: 23
      +1
      pff, they will soon be broken by the whole crowd as soon as they give good!

      so if you went to Turkey then here and even more so!
      1. mad
        mad 12 July 2016 08: 11
        +21
        Quote: Shick

        so if you went to Turkey then here and even more so!
        1. Mercenary
          Mercenary 12 July 2016 09: 37
          +2
          Where's the parachute? After the Egyptian "check" of the plane and luggage .....
    3. Prokop
      Prokop 12 July 2016 09: 13
      +2
      Quote: USSR 1971
      We have built so much for the whole world while we were the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, that we still remember. However, one still has to be prepared to defend one's geopolitical interests where they built something. Relevant lessons have been given.

      In addition to the lessons that we have received, it is worth recognizing that Suez is a direct competitor to the Northern Sea Route. Is it worth it to improve the infrastructure of others to the detriment of ours ???
      1. Sharapov
        Sharapov 12 July 2016 09: 24
        +2
        Quote: Prokop
        that Suez is a direct competitor to the Northern Sea Route. Is it worth it to improve the infrastructure of others to the detriment of ours ???

        You write so, as if, apart from our specialists, no one is able to do this. If this is beneficial for the developer, dozens of firms will stand in line.
    4. Simon
      Simon 12 July 2016 09: 22
      +3
      I want to add. In addition, many republics do not remember that under the Soviet Union everything was built by him at the expense of the Soviet people, the example of the Baltic States and Ukraine, but they did not take advantage of this, but simply destroyed it.
  2. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 12 July 2016 07: 15
    +1
    Yes, our boobies only whistles -tabun flee to Egypt. And do not care about the attacks and the igil, warm your belly, and write idiotic inscriptions on the pyramids, just one word the erectorate.
    1. stas
      stas 12 July 2016 08: 10
      +9
      We do not need a coast neither Turkish nor Egyptian.
      You need to invest and develop your tourism in your economy.

      And crucially, it is necessary to reduce prices for travel services in Sochi and in the Crimea.
      But the authorities in this matter do not even itch.
      They have decent salaries, while others mostly have slightly more than the poor.
      1. en 45
        en 45 12 July 2016 08: 33
        +14
        And crucially, it is necessary to reduce prices for travel services in Sochi and in the Crimea.

        That's it, I decided to take the child to the sanatorium in Anapa while my wife is sitting at home with the nursing one, and so the price for the flight Chelyabinsk-Anapa is 1 adult and 1 child 5 years old with a transfer in Moscow (there are no direct flights) for two round-trip flights 62 thousand. rubles. Accommodation in a sanatorium in 1 room 10 days - 77 thousand rubles. Plus some excursions, a dolphinarium, etc. hell knows how much. Are you ready to pay 150 thousand ???? This is the development of domestic tourism, affordable vacation ??? This is an attempt to profit due to the lack of an alternative.
        With such prices, only sit at home!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 08: 46
          +2
          Quote: en 45
          th. Accommodation in a sanatorium in 1 room 10 days - 77 thousand rubles

          But you can’t take a number more modestly? For example 3 room suite.
          VIP Hotel in Anapa: 2016 prices
          1. en 45
            en 45 12 July 2016 09: 07
            +2
            This is a sanatorium, living with treatment, because the child is often sick.
            And if you go without children, then for me even live in a barn, if only there was somewhere to spend the night.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 09: 11
              -6
              Quote: en 45
              This is a sanatorium, accommodation with treatment,

              In general, all sanatoriums with accommodation and treatment. Therefore, they are sanatoriums, and not just hotels.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 12 July 2016 17: 45
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            But you can’t take a number more modestly? For example 3 room suite.

            You add food to your suite plus procedures, and you will just get the desired number!
            I’m just suffering, I choose options for my family. So far no options! All the good, in my opinion, is already booked!
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 12 July 2016 08: 57
          +2
          it's a sanatorium ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 09: 04
            +2
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            it's a sanatorium ...

            Here is the most expensive resort in Anapa. I didn’t find it more expensive, it’s cheaper than three times. Where he managed a one-room kennel for 77-000 days. He rather just sits and lies.
            Sanatorium "Anapa-Ocean" Anapa
            general description | number of rooms | treatment profile
            Prices 2016
            1. en 45
              en 45 12 July 2016 09: 19
              +2
              he managed to. Rather, he just sits and lies.

              And in what, interestingly did I lie? Oh yes, 3600 for 1 person, then for two in 10 days 72000
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 09: 23
                -1
                Quote: en 45

                And in what, interestingly did I lie? Oh yes, 3600 for 1 person, then for two in 10 days 72000

                Tell me the name of the sanatorium? And the whole Internet was covered, so that I would get one-room crap for 7700. And how much forgive you for a ticket from Chelyabinsk?
                1. en 45
                  en 45 12 July 2016 09: 45
                  +3
                  Tell me the name of the sanatorium? And that entire Internet clambered that would find one-room crap for 7700.

                  Sanatorium FBLPU "Ellada", 353456, resort town Anapa,
                  Krasnodar Territory, Pioneer Avenue, 45
                  1. Rostov
                    Rostov 12 July 2016 10: 23
                    +6
                    [Alexander Romanov] Here is the most expensive sanatorium in Anapa. [/ Quote]
                    Alexander, your opponent is right. I myself like to relax in Anapa, more precisely in Dzhemete. But this year the prices there have exorbitantly lifted up. If you rent a hotel (guest house) within walking distance from the sea, then it’s cheaper than 2500 rubles per day, you can’t find the number. At the same time, from my own repeated experience, I know that they will never clean a room for a week of relaxation. If the hotel has a pool, then the prices are even higher. Although with all this - it is now almost impossible to book rooms for August.
                    About Crimea - prices are lower there, but the level of service is even worse than in the Kuban. And if you are interested, see how much a room (or even a villa) costs in Croatia or Montenegro. Is there a longer season, or do hoteliers still know the measure?
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 10: 41
                      0
                      Quote: Rostov
                      but. If you rent a hotel (guest house) within walking distance from the sea, then it’s cheaper than 2500 rubles per day, you can’t find the number

                      Guys, but you still snickered in our west of our beautiful country.
                      Prices in a hotel in Komsomolsk, which is not within easy reach of the sea, but in the middle of taiga. Prices dropped by their mother by 47% wassat
                      1. Rostov
                        Rostov 12 July 2016 11: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Guys, but you still snickered in our west of our beautiful country.

                        Alexander, we are not snickering. Just have something to compare. So who can tell me where our vacation prices come from in Russia? Most likely - they will come anyway. And it’s good that Muscovites and oil workers (private traders) have built guest houses here, it would have been even more expensive.
                        ps and for some reason I think that you yourself will not rest on the Black Sea coast, but somewhere in Southeast Asia. Because there it’s cheaper, and the service is better.
                        ps.s. and if in the Black Sea you can somehow justify prices with a short season, then damn how can you justify sky-high prices on the Volga-Akhtuba in the Astrakhan region? There is a season all year round.
                2. en 45
                  en 45 12 July 2016 09: 54
                  +3
                  And how much excuse me do you have a ticket from Chelyabinsk?

                  I bought a ticket on June 24 with a flight on August 1 from Chelyabinsk to Anapa: adult - 18135, children - 14504, backward grown-up - 16794, children 13594. Economy class. Are you still interested in some information?
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 10: 08
                    0
                    Quote: en 45
                    Are you still interested in some information?

                    No, nothing more.
                    1. Stas157
                      Stas157 12 July 2016 17: 56
                      +2
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      No, nothing more.

                      Here, so here is nothing else ??)))
                      You suspected a person, you tried to convict of a lie. We need at least an apology from you!
                      Although, what am I talking about, it's not about you!
              2. en 45
                en 45 12 July 2016 09: 26
                0
                Here is the invoice for payment.
                And you try to get a ticket, if you yourself are not in the manual. Although tours offer from November to April ...
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 09: 29
                  0
                  Quote: en 45
                  Here is the invoice for payment.

                  Where?
                  Quote: en 45
                  And you try to get a ticket, if you yourself are not in the manual.

                  And why get it, you can dial in the internet and buy. The times of the USSR have passed.
                  Quote: en 45
                  Although tours offer from November to April ...

                  Do you need a voucher for me?
                  1. en 45
                    en 45 12 July 2016 09: 33
                    0
                    And why get it, you can dial in the internet and buy. The times of the USSR have passed.

                    So I typed on the Internet and bought
                    1. en 45
                      en 45 12 July 2016 09: 34
                      0
                      And I can’t insert the picture
                    2. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 09: 44
                      0
                      Quote: en 45
                      So I typed on the Internet and bought

                      Tell me the name of the sanatorium or forgot?
            2. volot-voin
              volot-voin 12 July 2016 09: 31
              +2
              The cost per person per day, 30-40 tr and it turns out, together means 60-80. It is quite relevant. + road. Tones then - it turns out often more expensive than abroad.
              Do not get me wrong, I am far from being a lobbyist abroad, but without a state policy and vouchers at a discount from enterprises is a trumpet.
              Just a trip on vacation to the White Sea, on a personal car, on a fishing trip - a budget of 30-50 t / r together without sanatoriums.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 09: 34
                -2
                Quote: volot-voin
                The cost per person per day, 30-40 tr and it turns out, together means 60-80. It is quite relevant. + road. Tones then - it turns out often more expensive than abroad.

                You are given a link from the most expensive sanatorium. Although it passes by your eyes.
                1. volot-voin
                  volot-voin 12 July 2016 10: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  You are given a link from the most expensive sanatorium. Although it passes by your eyes.

                  I was not too lazy, climbed onto the site of the sanatorium. There are prices for 1 day stay. Believe me, 3000 - 4000 tons per month, no one will feed you))) For this money, don’t stretch yourselves at home on porridges)))
                  40 000r / 10 days with a child - this is with a funky discount and without a road. Two times cheaper than at your rates. Believe me, I’m talking about what.
        3. volot-voin
          volot-voin 12 July 2016 09: 01
          0
          Quote: en 45
          Plus some excursions, a dolphinarium, etc. hell knows how much. Are you ready to pay 150 thousand ????

          Of course there are enough problems, and rest in Anapa is certainly not 150 000 r, but quite expensive. And the average man with an arithmometer in his hand will think that Turkey, Egypt or Crimea with Anapa are cheaper.
          Recently he sent his wife and child to Anapa, helped the domestic travel industry - about 40 p + 000 train.
          Ours is still to work and work to lower prices and raise levels.
          You can, of course, by car, but 2000 km is two days on the road with an overnight stay in each direction, but you can take a lot of useful things with you, for example, a boat with a motor.
      2. asadov
        asadov 12 July 2016 08: 45
        +2
        Yes, not how much salary but how many benefits. Free trips to good sanatoriums, etc. .. A simple bed in the private sector overlooking the local garbage.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 08: 56
          -1
          Quote: asadov
          A simple bed in the private sector overlooking the local garbage.

          Well, maybe in the EU you have, exactly. Was he in Crimea at all?
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 12 July 2016 09: 44
            +4
            Greetings to Alexander! Everyone chooses the hotel level according to their capabilities, but wants the price to correspond to the level of service. I often wander around the country, so there is nothing to compare. Let's be honest, the prices in Sochi and Adler are sky-high (just unlimited). also pulls itself in the wake of the lack of acceptable options. At the moment, fruit and vegetables in our Urals are cheaper than in the south. In recent years, we went to Abkhazia, I really liked the price-quality ratio. Today it has risen sharply (friends are resting there now). So, that if the security situation in Egypt changes, I will choose Egypt. I don’t need to attach patriotism to idiocy (I’ll bathe in the mud, but in my own). Yes, and what’s bad is that people will not look at the sphinx pyramids, for example.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 09: 58
              -1
              Quote: zadorin1974
              Everyone chooses the level of the hotel according to their capabilities.

              That’s why I don’t understand. What a person is not happy with. He could take a tour for 30 thousand, but he took it more and is indignant.
              There are good sanatoriums, cheaper or more expensive.
              As for prices in the Crimea, recently a fresh video in YouTube looked, in my cafe on the banks of the Amur it is worth sitting twice as expensive.
              1. en 45
                en 45 12 July 2016 10: 07
                +1
                He could take a tour for 30 thousand, but he took more expensive and resented.

                I wonder where is it to get it, for 30 thousand?
                1. en 45
                  en 45 12 July 2016 10: 11
                  0
                  Judging by your picture, then in August, I still took cheaply smile
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 10: 15
                  0
                  Quote: en 45
                  I wonder where is it to get it, for 30 thousand?

                  Are you banned in Google? There really is its own grub
                  Quote: en 45
                  Judging by your picture, then in August, I still took cheaply

                  I chose more expensive specifically.
                  1. en 45
                    en 45 12 July 2016 10: 31
                    0
                    Sanatorium "Anapa-Ocean" Anapa
                    general description | number of rooms | treatment profile
                    Prices 2016

                    According to your example, you get accommodation in 1 room of the 1st category in August 6500 for 1 person, for two 13000. In
    2. Sharapov
      Sharapov 12 July 2016 10: 04
      0
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      yes on the pyramids idiotic inscriptions write one word the erectorate.

      And who is the eRectorate writing idiotic inscriptions?

      One cannot disrespect fellow citizens with such disrespect.
      About the last vacation in Egypt (in Taba Hilton) the best impressions - and the price was in 2012 52t.r. in 12 days. Of these, a day was "spent" on visiting Israel. The wife is happy and asks to go again.
      But their security is of course symbolic - at the security hotel - at every step, and I am sure that they will hear one shot - they will all run away.
  3. aba
    aba 12 July 2016 07: 18
    +4
    Or after the "opening" of Turkey, Egypt will also "open" in no time? ..

    Just after Turkey, the situation with Egypt looks very delicate for Russia, especially against the background of the fact that Turkey was discovered immediately after the most powerful terrorist attack in Istanbul.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 12 July 2016 13: 36
      +1
      Quote: aba
      Just after Turkey, the situation with Egypt looks very delicate for Russia, especially against the background of the fact that Turkey was discovered immediately after the most powerful terrorist attack in Istanbul.

      Politics, sir, it is necessary to build a Turkish stream and other monetary delicacies, and all these apologies and sanctions are for the public and for the preservation of the image more, but they did not have time to develop patriotism in a reactive form in people, and a parasitic "rest on seas ", otherwise the people would not have gone right away - at least for a year or so the Turks were pacified.
      Tourism should be widely developed in the middle zone of Russia, the Volga region, Altai, Astrakhan and Rostov region, etc. - charter flights, cheap tickets, hotels / hotels of various categories.

      Z.Y. I was resting already this year - I went by car to Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, Tyumen, drove through NN, Chuvashia, Perm Territory, the Urals, there are many beautiful places, there is plenty of sun in the middle lane, our country is so huge that it’s just when you go for 3 days (and drove even less than half the country) - you understand how big and beautiful our Motherland is.
  4. Teberii
    Teberii 12 July 2016 07: 20
    +1
    Money doesn’t smell, and the safety of tourists is another matter.
  5. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 12 July 2016 07: 27
    +8
    Or after the "opening" of Turkey, Egypt will also "open" in no time?
    ... yes it is easy, as can be seen from the current policy: money does not smell, it is sad, but they will go ... although, by and large, there is nothing to do there, super-salty water and sand, it is more interesting to watch the pyramids on the "box", and in more detail (although no one knows nichrome) I don't understand, it's not mine, Russia is much more interesting. only limited people can break into Egypt or Turkey, and especially into Tunisia (in general, dirt and stench), when it is wonderful and cheaper to relax in your homeland, on the Volga, in Altai, for example, and you will have heat, sand, and water , and their people around, security, and money in the country ... I don't understand. request
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 12 July 2016 07: 47
      +6
      For a cheaper see price list for a vacation at a base in the South Urals:

      Car parking at the recreation center 120 rubles / day
      Entrance to the territory of the base (for persons not residing at the base) Children under 12 years old / Children under 5 years old 200 rubles / day / 100 rubles / day / free
      Tennis rental from 10-00 to 24-00 150 rubles / hour
      Hire Russian billiards from 10-00 to 2-00 250 rubles / hour
      American pool rental from 10-00 to 2-00 200 rubles / hour
      Russian bath (order for less than 2 hours) from 10-00 to 24-00 1300 rubles / hour
      Finnish sauna (order for less than 2 hours):
      from 10-00 to 18-00 900 rubles / hour
      from 18-00 to 2-00 1100 rubles / hour
      Rent "Bathhouses on the shore" 2 hours - 4000 rubles
      3 hours - 5500 rubles
      4 hours - 6500 rubles
      Barbecue rental (gazebo on the beach) 1st hour - 250 rubles / hour, then 150 rubles / hour

      Therefore, you need to add 1000 rubles per person for accommodation in a shed.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 12 July 2016 08: 37
        0
        Well, if you decide to go by car to play "pool", take a steam bath and chew shashalyk-your problems, I'm actually talking about "another rest" - healthy.
      2. Teberii
        Teberii 12 July 2016 15: 25
        0
        One problem to relax in Turkey is cheaper than getting to the Urals.
    2. aba
      aba 12 July 2016 07: 56
      +5
      although, by and large, there is nothing to do there, super-salty water and sand, it is more interesting to watch about pyramids on the "box"

      Have you heard about diving and snorkeling? Or not?! This is what sets Egypt apart from Turkey. Indelible sensations. It is believed that the Red Sea reefs are fully replaced only by the Great Barrier Reef in Australia.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 12 July 2016 08: 41
        0
        Quote: aba
        Have you heard about diving and snorkeling?

        and everyone is completely fond of this? request
        1. aba
          aba 12 July 2016 09: 00
          +1
          and everyone is completely fond of this?

          Diving requires training and certification, and snorkeling (snorkelling) is available to everyone for ridiculous money and almost right off the coast. And even for children.
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 12 July 2016 12: 43
            0
            Quote: aba
            and everyone is completely fond of this?

            Diving requires training and certification, and snorkeling (snorkelling) is available to everyone for ridiculous money and almost right off the coast. And even for children.

            for God's sake! ready to lay out their hard-earned money for flippers and a mask, your right, and to have a rest "savage" in Russia, without a "pool" and saunas, is much more interesting, and almost for nothing! IMHO.
  6. Riv
    Riv 12 July 2016 07: 34
    +1
    Confidence??? Type: you build us here what we need, and then send tourists. The normal approach.
  7. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 12 July 2016 07: 35
    0
    There is no money to go, and where the terrorist attacks take place, it’s better to refrain from traveling. No one can guarantee 100 percent
  8. user3970
    user3970 12 July 2016 07: 37
    +15
    Is Aswan Dam not in Egypt? And how many debts have we written off to Egypt since the times of the USSR?
    1. rabbi's pais
      rabbi's pais 12 July 2016 07: 52
      +7
      Quote: user3970
      And how many debts have we written off to Egypt since the times of the USSR?

      So this is normal behavior for our leadership since the Soviet era. Instead of raising the standard of living for their citizens, writing off credit debts and lowering prices annually as under Stalin, it’s better to forgive the imported ones and build the infrastructure for a ball. Debilitating state. negative
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 July 2016 08: 58
      +1
      Quote: user3970
      And how many debts have we written off to Egypt since the times of the USSR?

      Only you forgot to add that the USSR gave these billions, understanding that no one will ever return this money. Glory to the CPSU damn it.
  9. Abbra
    Abbra 12 July 2016 07: 38
    +10
    Alas, we have two reasons why domestic Russian tourism is not developed. The first is the lack of advertising. The second is the high cost. That's all. Tourism within one's own country should be prestigious and inexpensive. A person from the city of Shakhty with a badge "I was in Vladivostok" should receive a 50% discount on a tourist trip to Kamchatka next year. And a tourist from Kamchatka with the badge "I rested on the Golden Ring" is the same ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 July 2016 08: 49
      +3
      Quote: Abbra
      Tourism within one’s country should be prestigious and inexpensive.

      and therefore, again all to Turkey and Egypt! Crimea with such help from the native government will bend, but about the "inexpensive" I am silent, because greed overwhelms everything and everyone ... the same fruits in the Sochi region, more expensive than we have in the Urals in the "magnet", although they were brought from there.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 12 July 2016 15: 06
      0
      Quote: Abbra
      A person from the city of Shakhty with a badge "I was in Vladivostok" should receive a 50% discount on a tourist trip to Kamchatka next year. And a tourist from Kamchatka with a badge "I rested on the Golden Ring" is the same ...

      laughing and 50% -70 discount on air and train tickets, otherwise you can not get there with your family because of the frantic prices for them.
  10. V.ic
    V.ic 12 July 2016 07: 52
    +2
    Aid to Egypt ... Participation ... Complicity ... And where is the guarantee against the emergence of a new "anvarsadat" in the Egyptian leadership? As Satanovsky said recently: "Such friends ..." I would rather "blow on the water."
    1. aba
      aba 12 July 2016 07: 59
      0
      Such friends ... "I'd rather" blow on the water. "

      It seems strange to me that friendship with Turkey does not bother you.
      Satan’s clever man, but generic roots make you aware.
  11. aba
    aba 12 July 2016 07: 53
    +1
    The first is the lack of advertising. The second is high cost.

    As for the second, I agree 100%. But the first has nothing to do with tourism, the developed infrastructure and services, or rather, its complete absence, are more influenced here.
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 12 July 2016 08: 30
      0
      Oh, aba, the owner of the fourth store "Plumbing", which has opened in our city, would well tell you about the properties of advertising ... Three who advertised themselves live happily ever after. And the fourth bent over. And all because on the offer to make him an advertisement, he said - Mene is not necessary! Mene's toilet bowls are so good ...
      1. aba
        aba 12 July 2016 10: 13
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        And the fourth bent. And all because of an offer to advertise him, he said - Mene doesn’t need that!

        Advertising was advertising, but apparently there was something else that the Fourth Hazyan did not take into account. ;)
  12. grandfather Mih
    grandfather Mih 12 July 2016 08: 17
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    Hope this is not free, charity is in the pocket of strangers. It seems the system is working. Fear then remained: a group of people would come, receive 30 each (paperwork, inflation, sundries), or they would follow promises (and they would hang them later). Such a country about ... whether.
  13. ver_
    ver_ 12 July 2016 08: 25
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    Quote: Expelling Liberoids
    Yes, our boobies only whistles -tabun flee to Egypt. And do not care about the attacks and the igil, warm your belly, and write idiotic inscriptions on the pyramids, just one word the erectorate.

    ..yes and to hell with them .. I am not at all worried if they are scalped there .. Those who are looking for adventure on their backside will definitely find them .. As for the "holes", this is not a question at all .. Chicken is not a bird - a brothel - a home from a young age .. "in our age of technical progress and progress" ... Pugachikha also said that her childhood was spent among prostitutes ..
  14. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 12 July 2016 08: 33
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    Take it on your own, so as not to fall when walking. We have announced a reduction in the national welfare fund, and here again great projects, and abroad. I support the view that, first of all, it is necessary to raise our country. We are now far from the USSR with its capabilities.
  15. Holsten
    Holsten 12 July 2016 08: 34
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    Trust is good, if you add to this control over Egyptian security on relevant topics: the safety of tourists and the protection of the proposed industrial zone. Otherwise, all this will be controlled by ISIS.
  16. Turkir
    Turkir 12 July 2016 08: 56
    +3
    Change the awl for soap.
    If we invest in Egypt, we will get permission ... to bring income to Egypt already from our own tourists.
    What a great offer. Just breathtaking.
    Especially against the backdrop of a dead plane and abusive messages in the Egyptian press:
    let all sorts of "natashka" not come, we can do without Russian tourists, etc.
    Our thrill-seekers apparently do not know how to read, or they have no leisure.
  17. mamont5
    mamont5 12 July 2016 09: 22
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    Quote: stas
    We do not need a coast neither Turkish nor Egyptian.
    You need to invest and develop your tourism in your economy.


    Well why. Why is it bad to see the world? Let them take measures against terrorism and go (I’m not talking about Turkey, it’s more difficult there).
  18. KRIK33
    KRIK33 12 July 2016 09: 45
    +1
    Quote: Michael m
    For a cheaper see price list for a vacation at a base in the South Urals:

    Car parking at the recreation center 120 rubles / day
    Entrance to the territory of the base (for persons not residing at the base) Children under 12 years old / Children under 5 years old 200 rubles / day / 100 rubles / day / free
    Tennis rental from 10-00 to 24-00 150 rubles / hour
    Hire Russian billiards from 10-00 to 2-00 250 rubles / hour
    American pool rental from 10-00 to 2-00 200 rubles / hour
    Russian bath (order for less than 2 hours) from 10-00 to 24-00 1300 rubles / hour
    Finnish sauna (order for less than 2 hours):
    from 10-00 to 18-00 900 rubles / hour
    from 18-00 to 2-00 1100 rubles / hour
    Rent "Bathhouses on the shore" 2 hours - 4000 rubles
    3 hours - 5500 rubles
    4 hours - 6500 rubles
    Barbecue rental (gazebo on the beach) 1st hour - 250 rubles / hour, then 150 rubles / hour

    Therefore, you need to add 1000 rubles per person for accommodation in a shed.

    Good day, Michael! I live in Irkutsk. In the immediate vicinity of the lake. Baikal. Even about 8 years ago it was possible to rest for adequate money. Now living, as you put it, in a shed without amenities at least 1000 rubles / person. With 3 meals a day - 1500 ... This is the so-called economy class. We add here the lack of infrastructure and a minimum of entertainment (there is a separate discussion about the price of affordable entertainment in general). And imagine a price tag for people from the west of Russia or the Far East, taking into account round-trip flights. For example, a recent trip to Thailand (6 hours to fly) cost two people 54 thousand rubles. (with breakfast) at 19 !!! days. Accommodation in disparate conditions with Lake Baikal, adequate prices for all kinds of excursions, developed infrastructure. One minus is increased humidity. In recent years, on a weekend trip once a year to Lake Baikal and ... that's it. We have an expensive vacation for dubious quality.
  19. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 12 July 2016 09: 50
    +1
    And will the "tourists" build?
  20. tilix
    tilix 12 July 2016 10: 07
    +3
    In Egypt, it’s not about investment, but perhaps salvation:
    people to 100 mil. and you need to feed them,
    Paul Sinai for daish, and the Egyptian Army doesn’t manage to cope with this good,
    the price of oil, you know, but because the main donor, Saudi, is in difficulty
    and if all this is not enough, then from the south, the northern animal is slowly creeping.

    An unenviable position.
  21. Evil 55
    Evil 55 12 July 2016 10: 56
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    Few in the world are as dangerous as safe Egyptian tourism ..
    1. aba
      aba 12 July 2016 11: 10
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      Few in the world are as dangerous as safe Egyptian tourism ..

      And you are in India, take off, preferably not only in Goa. wink
  22. Wolka
    Wolka 12 July 2016 12: 09
    +1
    we have nothing to build or no one to, well, straightforward to rest unbearable ...
  23. tilix
    tilix 12 July 2016 12: 10
    +2
    Lowering prices and writing off debts is certainly good, but what to do about it?
    Kommersant reported billions in losses of Russian airlines
    who and how will cover? Or will it not?
  24. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 12 July 2016 12: 14
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    If Russia does not grab it, it will grab China. It is necessary to solve quickly.
    China is building all over Africa far and wide.
    1. Evgeny RS
      Evgeny RS 12 July 2016 14: 32
      +1
      They will give in exchange for tourists, and not just like that.
      Then, they didn’t catch anyone from those who planted explosives on the plane.
      Terrorists in Egypt are doing well.
  25. rumatam
    rumatam 12 July 2016 16: 50
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    why plyusuyte, write that stupidity. Better help Cubans. Than these Muslims, Nasser helped and sense.