Military Review
Sign In Register

Aksyonov: the memories of the Ukrainian warriors once again confirm that "polite people" really saved the Crimea from bloodshed

71
Revelations of the current commander of the Ukrainian Navy Igor Voronchenko, who spoke about his readiness in 2014 to suppress the "Crimean spring" with the help of tanks, only confirm the fact that the blocking by "polite people" of the Ukrainian units saved the peninsula from bloodshed, reports RIA News statement by the head of the Republic of Crimea Sergey Aksyonov.



Yesterday, Ukrainian media reported that the new commander of the Navy Voronchenko, who held the post of deputy commander in Crimea in the spring of 2014 fleet on coastal defense, "prepared a plan to combat the Crimean militia with tanks."

“Voronchenko was waiting for the order of Kiev to throw tanks against the seized building of the Council of Ministers and the Crimean parliament and in case of refusal to surrender to fire,” one of the publications says.

“The revelations of the Ukrainian warriors once again confirm the correctness of the choice of the Crimeans, who did not want to live in the same country with thugs who were ready to shoot them with tank guns,” said Aksyonov.

In his opinion, "it was the presence of" polite people "who stopped those who seized power in Kiev, and the criminal order was not heard."

“Seleznev (speaker of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Vladislav Seleznev, who informed the media about Voronchenko’s plans) actually admitted that the decisive actions of Russia in the face of“ polite people ”to protect the civilian population of Crimea were absolutely justified,” Aksyonov noted.

“This figure (Voronchenko), who is sitting in Kiev today and talking about tanks, would still not have been able to win, and no one would have given him to leave Crimea,” added the head of the republic.

Recall, "Polite people" called the units of the GRU, marines and airborne forces, which played a key role in maintaining peace during the reunification of the Crimea with Russia.
Photos used:
RIA News. Alexey Nichukin
Military Reviewin Yandex News
Military Reviewin Yandex Zen
71 comment
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. avvg
    avvg 7 July 2016 08: 35
    +45
    In my opinion, the actions and experience of "polite people" in 2014. on the peninsula, will be studied for a long time in the military academies of the armed forces.
    1. RussianRoulette
      RussianRoulette 7 July 2016 08: 50
      +98
      Years will pass, a new century will come,
      But the itch in the glasses of "friends" will hardly subside.
      The green man is to blame!
      And those who gave him the order.

      If a fight is inevitable - you have to beat first. (Sincerely, Uncle Volodya)
    2. Karasik
      Karasik 7 July 2016 08: 52
      +29
      Donbass is a good example of what could have been in Crimea, if not for Polite People!
      1. Sasha_Sar
        Sasha_Sar 7 July 2016 09: 03
        +32
        In Crimea, it would be 100 times worse, and that's where the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian fleet would definitely "clash". It is difficult to imagine an officer of the Black Sea Fleet in whose house, where his wife and children are, Banderlog are shooting from tanks ...
        1. Alekseits
          Alekseits 7 July 2016 10: 23
          +19
          Quote: Sasha_Sar
          In Crimea, it would be 100 times worse, and that's where the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian fleet would definitely "clash". It is difficult to imagine an officer of the Black Sea Fleet in whose house, where his wife and children are, Banderlog are shooting from tanks ...

          The fact that it would be 100 times worse is for sure, because NATO would not miss the opportunity to help the Armed Forces. They slept and saw the war of Ukraine with Russia in the Crimea. And when the war didn’t work there, they started hysterically in the Donbass, in the hope that Russia would get involved there. But it didn’t work out the way they wanted. Now, in the absence of anything better, they are swarming in the Baltic. For they themselves are not interested in starting a war with Russia, but to help someone ...
        2. The comment was deleted.
        3. Aleksander
          Aleksander 7 July 2016 12: 53
          +13
          Quote: Sasha_Sar
          In Crimea, it would be 100 times worse, and that's where the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian fleet would "clash" for sure.


          I think that ukrovoin just lying to raise their prestige: the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Crimea are KRYMCHAN, first of all, and went over to the side of Russia in whole parts. They did not resist in THEIR units, to say nothing of the "shooting" of the military at civilian facilities and civilians far away. APU and in the Donbass did not immediately start firing, and even in February-March in Crimea there was nothing to say ....
          PS also had to get to the trailers. Nonsense...
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 9 July 2016 11: 20
            +10
            Quote: Aleksander
            Nonsense...

            Well yes, well yes, i.e. when the outright massacre began, in half of the former Soviet republics, it was not organized by local residents who lived side by side with each other all their lives, but by some kind of left-wing people .....
            Sometimes, just one shot is enough to share everything on your own and others.
        4. 1536
          1536 8 July 2016 06: 59
          +4
          "Sasha_Sar RU Yesterday, 09:03 ↑

          In Crimea, it would be 100 times worse, and that's where the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian fleet would definitely "clash". It is difficult to imagine an officer of the Black Sea Fleet at whose house, where his wife and children, Banderlog are shooting from tanks ... "

          NATO and the US Navy would be connected, and already their marines would have landed on the Crimean land! Everything was ready for this: the US ships in the Mediterranean and Turkey with their straits, and the fifth column on the peninsula, and in Russia too. Kiev also thought so, and therefore did not pay much attention, expecting that "abroad will help them." God only knows what stopped the Americans. Perhaps Obama simply didn’t want to be the man whose name came to light during the excavation of historical layers of the earth after a nuclear war.
          In a word, a false start, as GDP said about the events in Ukraine.
        5. code54
          code54 8 July 2016 11: 42
          +7
          The slaughter would be with us! Everyone was getting ready! Maybe not all ... some like rats then came back, with eyes round from the cross!
    3. Andrey K
      Andrey K 7 July 2016 08: 57
      +17
      “This leader (Voronchenko), who is sitting in Kiev today and talks about tanks, could not win anyway, but no one would leave him from the Crimea”

      Something inspired me ...
      It is very vain that at that time, on Trokh, they gave me a taxi to eat ***. How many Ukrainians would have saved ...
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 7 July 2016 09: 34
        +13
        Aksyonov: the memories of the Ukrainian warriors once again confirm that "polite people" really saved the Crimea from bloodshed

        Crimea was saved. But in the Donbass, they gave it back. Just appeared there at that time, "Polite people" and there would now be a "corridor" to the Dniester region.
        But even on our website at that time, NATO immediately got scared. The ugly videos began to show. And the sanctions laughing Sanctions have already been introduced. By the way, we are "afraid" of NATO when necessary. And we are not "afraid" when it is necessary to show the people that everything is fine and we are not in a besieged fortress.
        Or is there still foolishness in the world who sincerely believes that because of the integrity of Ukraine, the West wants to turn into nuclear ashes?
        And here to us Windows would be disconnected! laughing That excuse is so excuse!
        p / s On Linux would pass laughing
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 7 July 2016 11: 13
          +4
          Quote: Observer2014

          Crimea was saved. But in the Donbass, they gave it back. Just appeared there at that time, "Polite people" and there would now be a "corridor" to the Dniester region.

          I don’t know how they got scared? But the results of the referendum in Donbass were not clear. Look at the results of the elections and referendum in Novorossia. Http://www.politforums.net/ukraine/1414863451.html
          But you can’t turn off Windows on your computer, you can only turn off the Internet server, and this is fraught and unpredictable, with most servers running under Linux, and operation is cheaper.
        2. electrooleg
          electrooleg 7 July 2016 13: 08
          +1
          Quote: Observer2014
          On Linux would switch


          Go today, take an example from me winked
    4. Lyton
      Lyton 7 July 2016 09: 17
      +6
      Indeed, these civilian stsikuns would certainly have fired from tanks, and as they were blocked in their own units, there was no order and sat on the priest exactly, it was possible to get very quickly against our military and our flyers were covered with mattress flags when output, shame.
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 7 July 2016 09: 33
        +2
        Quote: Lyton
        Yeah, those civilian stsukuns would definitely open fire from tanks,

        Well, just like in 1993, tank fire was opened in the center of Moscow at the White House. And how do you live in the same country with "thugs"? "They sat on the priest exactly ..." Yeah, so scared. How many former ukrovoyaks left Crimea? 3%? And the rest stayed in Russia. And these 97% would shoot at their own people? And did not shoot out of fear because they were blocked? Yes you my friend, you smoke something ...
        1. Lyton
          Lyton 7 July 2016 09: 46
          +3
          My dear darling, I don’t smoke at all, in Maskva at 93 it was a showdown between our people for power, and if ukrovoyaki considered Crimea their own, that they didn’t protect against separatists, I live normally, go smoke some mushrooms.
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 7 July 2016 10: 26
            +7
            Quote: Lyton
            go you smoke mushrooms.

            And you claim that they are adequate? Smoking mushrooms? And where does such contempt for the "maskwe" come from? they didn’t become neighbors, their own people. But you don’t understand this. You already have an installation in your brain-DUMM hoh .. Ukrainians with weapons in their hands simply cannot help but shoot at the Russians! Unless, of course, they are not frightened by these same Russians. stay captive to your false beliefs, and most importantly, do not try to smoke mushrooms! They need to be pickled, well, or there, fry.
            1. Lyton
              Lyton 7 July 2016 11: 43
              +2
              Quote: revnagan
              Quote: Lyton
              go you smoke mushrooms.

              And you claim that they are adequate? Smoking mushrooms? And where does such contempt for the "maskwe" come from? they didn’t become neighbors, their own people. But you don’t understand this. You already have an installation in your brain-DUMM hoh .. Ukrainians with weapons in their hands simply cannot help but shoot at the Russians! Unless, of course, they are not frightened by these same Russians. stay captive to your false beliefs, and most importantly, do not try to smoke mushrooms! They need to be pickled, well, or there, fry.

              Yes, you’re just handsome, how well you put everything on the shelves, judging by your reasoning, you are from a blood-stained blood, first you gave the oath to Ukraine, then Russia, and when God forbid, the government will again change its oath to the one who will be closer to the feeder and who started first shoot at civilians in the Donbass using aviation can you tell me? I really don’t understand this, and don’t use especially glucogenogenic mushrooms, and you will teach your wife how to cook cabbage soup.
              1. saigon
                saigon 9 July 2016 18: 12
                +5
                That's about the oath of anti-custody right up to the horror. When a drunken Yeltsin staged a coup, many of the gentlemen generals and senior officers recalled simple words - Am I a citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? Many of them recalled - ready to defend their homeland of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? Whoever remembers the anger and contempt that befalls them, and yet befell them, maybe not anger, but despair deserved.
                1. Parsec
                  Parsec 9 July 2016 18: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: saigon
                  Many of them recalled - ready to defend their homeland of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics?


                  The oath specifically said "I am always ready to speak at the order of the Soviet Government ..."
            2. KVIRTU
              KVIRTU 7 July 2016 14: 55
              0
              The most Dumb hoh .. Ukrainians last month graduating in Russian academies (Moscow Region, Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc.) noted. laughing
              Well, the most recent on the mainland regiments and brigades command, if you do not know. request
              (Type in the search Sergey Valeryevich Dubintsev)
    5. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 7 July 2016 09: 54
      0
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, the actions and experience of "polite people" in 2014. on the peninsula, will be studied for a long time in the military academies of the armed forces.

      Including Ukrainian, as the only case when ukrovoiny, all the same, they saw the regular Russian army, and stupidly, did not stick out their nose laughing
      1. Bath
        Bath 7 July 2016 11: 51
        +11
        in 2014 in the Crimea there were not only the military, there were enough Cossacks and volunteers, and on really dangerous routes the Cossacks on Perekop Turetsky Val and Berkut were at the train stations and met with the militia, they blocked the military together with the military, and it was the Cossacks of Ukraine that captured the Ukrainian Navy headquarters in Sevastopol somehow quickly began to forget all non-MO related
        1. The comment was deleted.
      2. KVIRTU
        KVIRTU 8 July 2016 18: 46
        +3
        Observer 33. I understand that you seem to live far from Crimea ...
        But not too lazy, I will write (in 2 words).
        The initial setting.
        After the end of the coup, Berkut fighters are returning to Crimea here. They are traveling at night from Kiev (this is 900 km.), On their buses, with broken windows (end of February), all with colds, many wounded, with frostbite and burns.
        Upon arrival, they barricade in their bases.
        Nalyvaichenko and Avakov arrive in Simferopol - take the Berkut bases, people. 100 of them (described the state) to Kiev for the "trial".
        Bundles of reports lay on the table. The prosecutor's office - to initiate for failure to comply with the order - the same.
        1. KVIRTU
          KVIRTU 8 July 2016 19: 10
          +4
          Further, (if you served in the Army at all), your separate motorized rifle battalion, horrified, blocks the WHOLE platoon of marines (Airborne Forces, GRU), for example, who arrived at !!! KAMAZE (do not faint), which was set opposite the central checkpoint of your unit.
          Among the personnel, panic, diapers are over, NS has closed in his office, signed the last order, put a service PM on the table ...
          Well, in general, were not - do not write nonsense.
          (any SME, ICB (etc.), having the task, would dare to screen in the form of any platoon - this is not the point; to say what ?: 120 thousand units of infantry in parts of the Crimea - so that the Tatars would not get it (there are no other radicals here) guarded from two sides).
          1. KVIRTU
            KVIRTU 8 July 2016 19: 21
            +6
            Well, to complement the picture.
            With the commander of those who "block" your unit, you drank vodka yesterday, because you live on the same site, your wives are best friends, you are godfathers, the children go to the same kindergarten and school.
            I repeat - you don't know, don't make people laugh by expressing your "opinion", trying to earn "+".
            1. code54
              code54 9 July 2016 13: 30
              +1
              I will support! The situation was multifaceted! And the fact that kidding on urgent orders by a drunken officer forced bags to fill for barricades, When a guy almost lives in a neighboring city .... And the demonstration march on Belbek .... One thing is good that they all restrained from both sides and did not start massacre. It’s important that ours would have crushed, but there would have been more victims a hundred times!
            2. You Vlad
              You Vlad 9 July 2016 13: 32
              +4
              Ukrainian officers in Crimea did not lose their honor, which is worthy of respect! Well, except for some who march America chanting with us ...
      3. code54
        code54 9 July 2016 13: 18
        +2
        How many Tatars we know, all are adequate people! Maybe there is someone who grinds a tooth, but apparently secretly .... although this is even more dangerous. By the way (unofficially), the army men are familiar when they began to take out drunk and especially inadequate people to take to the Hill of Glory on a patrol in Yalta! ))) And from there until a person arrives he will return to normal! )))
  2. Coconut
    Coconut 7 July 2016 08: 40
    +11
    Polite people ... this is not a new strategy, but a level of trust in Russia and its army
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 7 July 2016 14: 13
      +1
      Quote: Coco
      Polite people ... this is not a new strategy, but a level of trust in Russia and its army


      Everything is justified and "the flags will be on a visit to the Russian Crimea":
      (cry)
      1. code54
        code54 9 July 2016 15: 53
        +4
        I saw these "guests" in the grave !!! They cover the clearing here, ride for budget money by the way! And they, returning to themselves, support the sanctions out of envy! Two-faced with ....
  3. Baloo
    Baloo 7 July 2016 08: 46
    +3
    Ukrainian generals compete in buzzing with NATO and American.
    Clowns, D. fool
  4. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 7 July 2016 08: 46
    +5
    I read it:Ukrainian media reported yesterday that new navy commander Voronchenko, who held the post of deputy fleet commander for coastal defense in the spring of 2014 in Crimea, "Prepared a plan to fight the Crimean militia with tanks."
     and the hair stood on end. Probably just missing the phrase "in due time ......", otherwise I had to re-read it three times, I think, or my roof was blown away, or Kiev started the third world. What a joke you have, boatswain!
    What if I'm wrong ????
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 7 July 2016 09: 05
      +8
      I remembered how I once found a newspaper in a friend's garden where it was written that our country was attacked (or something like that). After some, brief but concrete stupor, I looked at the date, and it turned out to be Komsomolskaya Pravda on June 23, 1941. Now the newspaper is carefully stored at home (a friend gave the newspaper).
      1. code54
        code54 9 July 2016 15: 57
        +1
        Such a newspaper needs varnish and under glass !!! good
        And in place of Mannerheim which put !!!
    2. The comment was deleted.
  5. qwert111
    qwert111 7 July 2016 08: 48
    +24
    A monument was erected to polite people in Crimea and everyone remembers and will remember what they did. And this "great strategist" Voronchenko now commands Ukrainian kayaks and canoes, called the Ukrainian fleet, so along with this junk the memory of him will drown. A cheap, worthless, corrupt person.
    1. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 7 July 2016 09: 08
      +4
      Totally agree
  6. The comment was deleted.
  7. Konstantm
    Konstantm 7 July 2016 09: 01
    +10
    Something was thought, and if the Supreme Commander-in-Chief at that time was a LADY, would the world know about the existence of "Polite people"?
    1. Egevich
      Egevich 7 July 2016 09: 12
      +21
      Quote: KonstantM
      Something was thought, and if the Supreme Commander-in-Chief at that time was a LADY, would the world know about the existence of "Polite people"?

      Well, I saw the world, like a bear eating a tie ...
      1. ochakow703
        ochakow703 9 July 2016 10: 24
        +2
        Well, yes, I did. This allowed him to see the GDP, but he himself is only in iPhones.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 July 2016 09: 10
    +12
    It is he who is so brave now, straight "Horse-fire", he did not receive an order, otherwise he would ... And he himself was so disciplined, without an order, no, no, drapaned from the peninsula? Correctly, this gang was blocked in the garrisons - they could cheat well. But the operation of our polite people is an obvious impromptu, well, there was not much time for its preparation, so everything was unfolding rapidly. All the more respect for everyone, both those who carried out, and those who planned, and THOSE WHO DECIDED!
    1. CAM
      CAM 7 July 2016 13: 06
      +2
      I could have shot down a plane, f ... grenade in the tank, I could, but reluctance laughing
  9. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 7 July 2016 09: 11
    +18
    How jewelry operation was performed, huh? A whole peninsula with a sickly population was protected by polite people. Crimeans themselves are generally handsome: no snot - resolutely and adamantly. As far as I remember, there were 2 dead - as a result of the actions of scumbag saboteurs. And this is with the confrontation of two military groups numbering under 20-25 thousand each. And there were clashes. Yes, in any city with a million population, during such a time of simple domestic killings more occurs.
    And how can you imagine what kind of "stars" all sorts of criminals, sbushniks and various representatives of other services were raking in at the meetings, who asked ... the given situation, how they proceeded to the city ... about at various gatherings of politicians and security officials ... good
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 7 July 2016 09: 37
      +5
      Quote: S_Baykala
      How jewelry operation was performed, huh?

      This is because the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces in the Crimea never considered the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of Russia to be enemies. In essence, they were their own people. Therefore, the order did not pass. To start firing from tanks, it was necessary to first replace the Crimean warriors with Chernivtsi, Lviv or some other from Bendery. And it was just not real.
      1. svu93
        svu93 7 July 2016 10: 28
        +1
        Do you claim this as a participant in these events? Or is it just a version?
      2. svu93
        svu93 7 July 2016 10: 28
        0
        Do you claim this as a participant in these events? Or is it just a version?
    2. Foolfox
      Foolfox 9 July 2016 08: 53
      +3
      April 30 was driving from work on the way. Caught in a traffic jam on the Kiev highway. They got a total of 7 hours. Accordingly, they spent time traveling talking. The driver's name was Kostya, 25 years old. According to him, he served in the air defense unit near Podolsk in 2014. They offered to go to the Crimea. He agreed. He says they couldn’t get the right number of contractors. From our losses, he knows about 17 dead, with some he was personally acquainted. He also talked about the attack on their post. Fought off without loss, helped the paratroopers on a helicopter. In the forest belt 4 bodies of unknowns were found in hunting camouflage and without documents, they were armed with automatic weapons. How much the story is parvdiv - I do not know. Kostya spoke reluctantly. He admitted that the killed only half a year as they stopped dreaming. Something like this...
    3. code54
      code54 9 July 2016 16: 02
      -1
      There were unfortunately more deaths ....
  10. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 7 July 2016 09: 13
    +6
    The current leaders of Ukraine, like a spider that has caught a fly, drags it into its den, dragging the whole country into a break with its brotherly people. Do not believe that everyone in Ukraine is jumping and cursing "m. O. Skaley"! I have friends and even relatives there, and I have good friendly relations with them!
    Returning to figures like Voronchenko, everything is very simple when you abandoned real heroes, people who performed real feats (for example, during the Second World War), you need to come up with your own, and where to get them if they are not there, then even Mazep’s dubious personalities are used , Bandera, Savchenko, etc. the main thing is to be, but they’ll come up with a story about their heroism. So Voronchenko himself screwed up in the Crimea, but tells about his heroism, they say I prepared everything, I would put things in order, I would defeat everyone ... alas, there are no subjunctive moods in history, in fact all his victorious actions will remain only in his inflamed imagination.
  11. Enoch
    Enoch 7 July 2016 09: 27
    +2
    It was a beautiful move - politely, without noise and dust. Thank God!
    1. cayman gene
      cayman gene 7 July 2016 09: 51
      +3
      It is always pleasant to communicate with polite people, and if at the same time they are also pretty armed, then they are able to work miracles in general. hi
  12. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 7 July 2016 09: 27
    +3
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    because the operation of our polite people is an impromptu one, well, there wasn’t much time to prepare it, so everything was rapidly unfolding.

    A brilliantly prepared and well-executed operation, impromptu always accompanies in terms of nuances and more.
  13. sgr291158
    sgr291158 7 July 2016 09: 30
    +1
    The Ukrainian rabble, called the army, fights heroically against the civilian population. But as soon as real power appeared, they pressed their tail.
  14. zhvakin
    zhvakin 7 July 2016 09: 33
    +3
    I agree with the authors of the comments. If it were not for the blocking of the Ukrainian units in the Crimea. It is not known what could happen.
  15. drop
    drop 7 July 2016 09: 33
    +9
    Special thanks to the Cossacks should be said. They blocked the "friendship" train sent by Kiev to seize the Belbek airfield. This Kolomoisky Jew privatized it, and the enterprises of the Ministry of Radio Industry of the USSR equipped and commissioned it back in Soviet times. Crimea is ours and it needs to be improved.
    I personally had to lead military trials there in 1982. I had to go to all places of this wonderful Russian land. I have the honor.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Bath
      Bath 7 July 2016 12: 01
      0
      Thank you for remembering Turkish Wall March 2014
    3. Lelek
      Lelek 7 July 2016 14: 19
      0
      Quote: Drop
      Our Crimea and it must be landscaped.


      Already. Even the foreign media (though timidly) are convinced of this:
      (cry)
    4. code54
      code54 10 July 2016 00: 16
      +1
      Of course I apologize, "friendship train" remember, Only the railway line you know in the Crimea? Did they need to get past Simph and, stopping the train, before reaching Sevas, jump out and walk to Belbek? And who would not be waiting for them there?
  16. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 7 July 2016 09: 53
    +6
    Quote: revnagan
    Quote: S_Baykala
    How jewelry operation was performed, huh?

    This is because the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces in the Crimea never considered the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of Russia to be enemies. In essence, they were their own people. Therefore, the order did not pass. To start shooting from tanks, you first had to replace the Crimean warriors with Chernivtsi, Lviv, or some other ..


    Immediately I remembered another aspect: the commander-in-chief did not give the order: on the contrary, Yanukovych was “visiting” in Rostov at that time. And without his signature, all orders to start hostilities are essentially Filkin's letter. If it were captured or destroyed, the commanders of the Crimean military bases would have no choice: orders from above would be legal. How in this case the situation would turn - hz.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 7 July 2016 10: 29
      +1
      Quote: S_Baykala
      I immediately remembered another aspect: the commander-in-chief did not give the order: on the contrary, Yanukovych was "visiting" in Rostov at that time.

      Thank God, there are still adequate on the site. Not only "uryakly".
  17. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 7 July 2016 10: 03
    +5
    Quote: Observer2014
    Crimea was saved. But in the Donbass, they gave it back. Just appeared there at that time, "Polite people" and there would now be a "corridor" to the Dniester region.
    But even on our website at that time, NATO was immediately scared.

    Firstly, Donbas is not Crimea, the situation there is not so clear. If, then, a referendum of the Crimean type were held, the result would be completely different, something around 50%, now probably about the same, maybe about 60%. Although people are pretty tired of the war and the stupidities of Kiev, only the Russian part will vote for the exit. It’s just that in 14 Donbas saw a prospect, but he didn’t ask us, therefore neither polite nor rude went there.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 7 July 2016 10: 34
      -4
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Firstly, Donbas is not Crimea, the situation there is not so clear.

      Of course! There is no base of the Black Sea Fleet and the sea! And the population, which needs to pay pensions and salaries from the budget, is many times more than in Crimea. So Donbass is never Crimea, Mr. KEP. Therefore, Donbass served as a kind of "compress" to at the cost of the lives of the local population "to pull the heat away" from the Crimea. A classic two-step move, like in chess, with a sacrifice. True, they sacrificed not pawns, but people, but "the end justifies the means."
      1. ver_
        ver_ 9 July 2016 11: 21
        +3
        ... yes no - everything is much simpler ... The mattress covers broke off with the Crimea .. Crimea did not become their base .. And their other actions are powerless anger, rage from losing and the loss of a "face" .., they are not players, they are gamers. ...
  18. Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich
    Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich 7 July 2016 10: 12
    +3
    Interestingly, does this "sea tanker" have at least elementary concepts about the actions of tanks in an urban environment? Or did you play "tanks" and understood everything and planned it out?
  19. fsps
    fsps 7 July 2016 11: 00
    +3
    Actually, Crimea is Russia's security in a southerly direction. Unsinkable aircraft carrier, Navy and the rest. That is, these are completely different games, bets and players. With the seizure of Crimea by US / NATO forces, the situation in Russia could become hopeless. And the opinion of Ukraine in reality, few of the players are interested.
  20. The comment was deleted.
  21. Zhnec
    Zhnec 9 July 2016 08: 12
    +8
    Quote: Aleksander
    Donbass did not immediately start firing, and even in February-March in the Crimea there was nothing to say ....

    In Donbass, the whole storm was started not by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but by organized crime groups such as Pravoseks and other Aidars. A little later, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were formed mainly by people not related to Donbass. Although there are enough buttoned locals there. What can I say ... We, in Crimea, also have enough Ukrainophiles. Only these "tovarischi" for some reason, massively became citizens of the Russian Federation and do not want to live in today's Ukraine. Their children serve in the Russian army and go to work on the continent ...
    1. code54
      code54 10 July 2016 00: 24
      +1
      Yes, remember Slavyansk, the site and the page are in contact! Yes Russians, We are for Russia !!! Hrenaks, Ukraine repulsed .... immediately the flags change and everyone spread rot on the pages ... Now when they write that the Russian brothers threw the Republic, I personally remind people about Chechnya, 1-2 ... where were you then? that they did not rush to help, only on the reverse side there were many.
  22. Every
    Every 9 July 2016 11: 17
    +2
    Quote: revnagan
    And you claim that you are adequate? To smoke mushrooms? And where does such contempt for the "masque" come from? You are a "zamkadnik"?


    It is for such expressions - "zamkadnik" and contempt for Moscow appears
  23. t118an
    t118an 9 July 2016 12: 20
    +4
    "The revelations of Ukrainian warriors once again confirm the correctness of the choice of Crimeans who did not want to live in the same country with thugs who were ready to shoot them from tank guns" ©
    And then no one doubted that the "warriors" would have drowned Crimea in blood. The example of Donbass is proof of this.