The story of "Gyurza": the boats stand, and the money sailed away

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The bulk of the financial resources for "comprehensive support of the Naval Forces of Ukraine" will go to an enterprise controlled by Petro Poroshenko, while the raw boats produced by him are still not included in the composition fleet.

The story of "Gyurza": the boats stand, and the money sailed away


President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, speaking on Sunday 3 July in Odessa at the celebrations dedicated to the celebration of the Day of the Naval Forces, announced that "today, two armored artillery boats will be part of the Naval Forces of Ukraine."

The event is truly significant, if we consider that the previous new warship Corvette "Ternopil" was received by the Navy more than 10 years ago - January 16 2006.

However, as has happened more than once, these words of the president were not entirely in line with reality, so he himself immediately had to add that "the boats are being passed exactly today for combat tests, for setting on arms." This officially confirmed the information that became publicly available in mid-November last year, when in a no less solemn atmosphere on the territory of PJSC “Zavod“ Leninskaya Kuznitsa "these boats were launched into the water. Then some media also rushed to inform that they "went into the Black Sea under their own power, where they would become part of the Navy." However, behind the numerous yellow-blue inflatable balls, they could not hide the absence of not only a power plant on the boats, but practically all udovaniya and weapons, including radar navigation, an integrated system of communication and navigation, detection sensors and laser irradiation optical-electronic fire control system.


Screenshot of the report from the launching ceremony of the first boat "Gyurza-M" for Naval Forces. 11 November 2015

It soon became clear that the newest Ukrainian marine technology is still to be completed at the Odessa Shipyard Ukraine Ship Repair Enterprise (the former 50 anniversary shipyard named after Soviet Ukraine), which is part of the Odessa Commercial Sea Port State Enterprise, after which it passed state tests, will be accepted into the fleet. The implication was that this would happen by the Day of the Naval Forces of Ukraine - 3 July 2016. The Ukrainian military was so sure of this that, not waiting for the completion of the tests, in April of this year, Deputy Defense Minister Lieutenant General Igor Pavlovsky reported that “the military department ordered there are four more similar small armored artillery boats at the plant, and within the next month two more boats of a different class will be laid down, in which the specialists identified the assault assault ships of the Centaur project.

However, 8 months after the boats left their native Kiev enterprise, it was reported that "during the tests and firing, numerous flaws were discovered in the design of the armored boats, so the fleet cannot accept them for operation in this form. Now the tests are suspended for eliminating miscalculations. " As a result, at the holiday with the participation of the President of Ukraine, it was necessary to confine ourselves only to the official assignment of the ships names - Berdyansk and Akkerman, which Poroshenko for some reason considered "human settlements symbolizing our military and national unity."

Along the way, it turned out that, although already in February 2016, the boats started running trials, they still lacked many vital components, and some of the equipment was damaged or disappeared during transportation to Odessa. The main problem was the disruption of shipments of the ship's optical-electronic fire control system of small and medium caliber "Sova" developed and manufactured by the Kvant Research and Development Institute, mainly specializing in marine issues, whose losses on 1 in January 2016 were 3,761 million UAH, and wage arrears exceeded 15 million UAH Only in February and March in Odessa from Kiev were sent both sets of "Sov", which did not even pass factory tests, and in a very "raw" condition. Perth, can "move" the timing of operation of the first two boats in the autumn of this year, and even at the beginning of the next.

Another problem was the sensors detecting laser radiation, which until the "Crimean spring" supplied Theodosia state optical plant. In order to speed up the replacement process, the order was also transferred to Kvant, technical requirements from the Ministry of Defense are reduced, so the boats received sensors in the land, rather than in the sea version.


On both boats installed sensors detecting laser radiation (circled in red) and only on one - OES SUO "Owl" (circled in green), Furano radar (circled in blue). March 2016

Furano western radar stations were also imported by Spetstechnoexport after the departure of boats to Odessa. How much such an "innovative" approach to bringing the state of military equipment to the mind has affected the total costs, no one will judge, but the timing of the delay can easily be clarified by comparison with the same small anti-submarine ship Ternopil, which left Lenin's Forge. 23 September 2005 and completed acceptance tests through the 3,5 month, although it had a more complex structure than the ill-fated boats.

A rather bad omen is the fact of numerous complaints about boats and equipment of similar types that came from operating in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan for several years.

Last negative moment in stories with the Ukrainian "Gyurzoy-M" is associated with the prospects for its use and, accordingly, the need to order. According to the technical requirements of the project, the boats are designed to carry out combat watches in the border waters of shallow depths - rivers, lakes, as well as in the coastal sea zone, patrol and protect water boundaries, as well as combat small-sized ships and assist airborne and border groups. In general, this is a good boat to fight smugglers. These tasks are met by the weapons complex and local protection in 4-6 mm of armor, which, however, are completely inadequate for confronting the Russian fleet, which suggests a new Ukrainian military doctrine.

Evil tongues insist that "Gyurza" went solely because its manufacturer is "Leninsky smithy", the owner of which is the current president of Ukraine. At the same time, they remind that both boats that were tested today should have been handed over to the Navy even at the end of 2013, however, due to the poor quality of the work of the Leninskaya Kuznitsa factory in December 2013, the MOU canceled the contract, planning to transfer the construction of these boats company. Construction was resumed in the fall of 2014 as an "emergency military order," the need for which is highly questionable.

In this case, information about the payment of "Lenkuzney" penalties for disrupting the timing and failure to execute the first and second government contracts is not available, although such sanctions are necessarily provided for by the terms of the contracts. In fact, in November last year, in exchange for additional financing, the unfinished corps, left over from the previous unfulfilled state order, were transferred to the President’s enterprise. This is confirmed by the analysis of the main indicators of financial and economic activity for 2014, and 2015, which are quite significantly improved. So the net loss was reduced by 28 mln. UAH, and the staff of employees grew by 54 person and reached 378. At the same time on 125 mln. current financial obligations were reduced, which miraculously coincided with the fact that the unfinished boats were launched.

Is it any wonder that the same Poroshenko, speaking on July 3 in Odessa, was extremely dissatisfied with “meeting the needs of the Navy,” noting that “Measures taken by the Cabinet of Ministers, the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff do not currently meet the needs of comprehensive support of the Military Sea Forces of Ukraine. " After all, the main share of funds will go to the company controlled by him ...
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  1. +4
    7 July 2016 13: 51
    Gyurza-snake land, let the wheels put their trough. )))
    1. +3
      7 July 2016 14: 13
      In reality, we have already got the "news" from the poor. When they get something useful, then we will read it, and read about degradants - thank you.
  2. +27
    7 July 2016 13: 52
    In the course of the catchphrase of Puchkov \ Goblin: "Attempts to build a state in Ukraine are like trying to conceive a child in a Gevv family: the more they try, the more the ass hurts" can be safely extended to all types of construction in Ukraine. Yes Including the fleet ...
    1. +3
      7 July 2016 14: 08
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      In the course of the catchphrase of Puchkov \ Goblin: "Attempts to build a state in Ukraine resembles an attempt to conceive a child in a Gevv family: the more they try, the more the ass hurts"

      you are a cynic, my friend ... laughing drinks hi
      1. +1
        7 July 2016 14: 39
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        yes you are a cynic

        stop Not me! This is it:
        Greetings to novice anglers from the masters of Russian fishing! drinks
    2. +4
      7 July 2016 14: 11
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      the catch phrase of Puchkov \ Goblin: "Attempts to build a state in Ukraine resemble an attempt to conceive a child in a gay family: the more they try, the more the ass hurts"

      Elegant!
      In the piggy bank, definitely!
    3. +1
      7 July 2016 14: 12
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      The attempt to build a state in Ukraine resembles the attempt to conceive a child in the family of gevv: the more they try, the more painful the ass

      Nevertheless -The European Parliament approved a visa-free regime of Ukraine with the EU.
      The Committee on Foreign Affairs of the European Parliament approved the provision of a visa-free regime with the EU to Ukraine, Georgia and Kosovo.
      “Ukraine has taken a big step forward on the European path since Euromaidan. He fought for her European choice and European democratic values. Undoubtedly, Ukraine has successfully fulfilled all the criteria necessary for granting a visa-free regime as soon as possible and without any further delay, ”said Jacek Sariusz-Wolski, rapporteur on Ukraine’s issue.

      It is noted that 42 deputies voted for, three against and six abstained.
      1. 0
        7 July 2016 15: 48
        Nevertheless, the European Parliament approved a visa-free regime of Ukraine with the EU.
        They can approve anything they want. Here are just a visa-free regime with Ukraine can only be introduced in a parallel reality, in which Ukraine lives. In the meantime, when raids on illegal immigrants, for example, in London, blacks and Arabs are left, and Ukrainians are not stingy on air tickets at the state expense, on an airplane and a kick in the ass to Ukraine. Ukrainians in Europe are not even considered blacks, but all of them are shouting "Ukraine and Europe." All this talk about visa-free travel is noodles for Svidomo suckers. Which, by the way, was behind this and stood on the Maidan, and not at all out of "love for Nenko Ukraine." This has always proved their fake "patriotism".
  3. 0
    7 July 2016 13: 52
    Is it any wonder that the same Poroshenko, speaking on July 3 in Odessa, was extremely dissatisfied with “meeting the needs of the Navy,” noting that “Measures taken by the Cabinet of Ministers, the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff do not currently meet the needs of comprehensive support of the Military Sea Forces of Ukraine. " After all, the main share of funds will go to the company controlled by him ...

    No war give candy .. the most peaceful president laughing
  4. +3
    7 July 2016 13: 53
    But the evil tyrant usurper Yanukovych began to build quite good corvettes of the Gaiduk type ...
    And now what? The construction of the lead ship is frozen for an indefinite period, and it is foolish to dream of a series of 10-12 corvettes ...
    1. +4
      7 July 2016 14: 15
      so funny, yes, but I'm thinking, but what about the "dispersal" of our bosses in the Baltic? Why, we don't laugh about this. does not remind "we do not see the log in our own eye"? We are constantly exposed to the impoverished neighboring non-state as an object for ridicule, and when I read this, I think about Our Fleet, and the situation is bleak. we are likening to the "censor" comrades, we are glad that "the neighbor's cow is dead." come on, show off your wit ...
      1. +2
        7 July 2016 14: 46
        I completely agree with you, we have found a topic for discussion, but we are the Host to Ukraine, this is their state in the end. In our garden, the problem is on the problem, the "Bulava" is not brought to mind, the media often fall, and all the problems are not enough to list places on the page. Okay, even though the Minister of Defense is normal at the end, even though he is a firefighter.
        Until the elections we really vote for the deputies, we will continue to serve a handful of oligarchs, for whom the Motherland is where there is more money. Not the fact that at hour X they will allow you to press the button (the kids are where you need to shoot). The elections are on the way, and we are discussing the quality of the boats of a neighbor, albeit not entirely friendly. I’m already fed up with this neoliberal policy, but for whom to vote the question from the questions.
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    2. 0
      7 July 2016 15: 53
      This whole story with boats, once again shows the real state of things in Ukraine. And this is the same situation in everything and everywhere, wherever you throw it.
      However, as has already happened more than once, these words of the president did not correspond to reality in everything.
      The words of this "president" do not correspond to reality when and in anything.
  5. 0
    7 July 2016 13: 58
    Is it any wonder that the same Poroshenko, speaking on July 3 in Odessa, was extremely dissatisfied with "meeting the needs of the Naval Forces",

    But ukrokakliya found a new slop "commander-in-chief" of the underflot! The tanker is true, but for Svidomo, all through one place, located below the back, the tanker will also get off laughing! D, B!
  6. +2
    7 July 2016 14: 02
    I am looking at this showpiece of naval construction - for sure "Orly Burke" is the Ukrainian version !!! or even "Ticonderoga" !!! wassat
    1. 0
      7 July 2016 14: 08
      Exorcist of liberoids RU Today, 14:02 New
      I am looking at this showpiece of naval construction - for sure "Orly Burke" is the Ukrainian version !!! or even "Ticonderoga" !!! wassat

      good
    2. +1
      7 July 2016 14: 14
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      exactly "Orly Burke" Ukrainian version !!! or even "Ticonderoga" !!!

      Take it higher:
      nothing else but Zumwalt!
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      3. +1
        7 July 2016 14: 28
        Quote: oborzevatel
        nothing else but Zumwalt!

        Rather-River artillery boat pr.1204 "Shmel laughing
      4. +3
        7 July 2016 14: 29
        Quote: oborzevatel
        Take it higher:
        nothing else but Zumwalt!

        More precisely, its larva.
        1. +1
          7 July 2016 15: 13
          Quote: lelikas
          More precisely, its larva.

          I will continue:
          ... which over time should turn into a destroyer of the Zamvolt type fool
        2. +1
          7 July 2016 19: 03
          Quote: lelikas
          More precisely, his larva

          It is rather a miscarriage, and even without a filling. lol
  7. 0
    7 July 2016 14: 02
    A seagull with carronades, this is the future of the Ukrainian fleet.
  8. +4
    7 July 2016 14: 09
    Which country, such and the fleet.
    The last negative moment in the history of the Ukrainian "Gyurza-M" is associated with the prospects for its use

    That's where the dog rummaged!
    But nobody really knows this project. Use it as a border project. So it’s a slow-moving one. 28 knots maximum .And for actions at sea. He will fight against whom? Against gulls? Well and the last. Ukraine says that it’s armored artillery boats. Especially like armored boats. What are they armored with? If I bet that this armored boat in one volley 30 mm AK 630 will tear to shreds. I’m still silent about something newer and more powerful.
    1. 0
      7 July 2016 16: 03
      Why immediately 30mm. Enough and heavy machine gun. In my opinion 12.7mm., It will be sewn through. Is that if you break.
    2. 0
      7 July 2016 16: 29
      Quote: Observer2014
      But nobody really knows this project. Use it as a border project. So it’s a slow-moving one. 28 knots maximum. And for actions at sea. He against whom it will be to fight? Against gulls?

      So it was planned for the Danube flotilla - for use in the Danube Delta and the coastal zone of the World Cup. Because the river forces of Ukraine on the Danube almost zeroed, and neighboring Romania, after the history of the Zmeinoy offshore, became a category of potentially hostile states. So they built an AKA with bulletproof booking.
      But while the boat was being built, the naval forces of Ukraine had already been reset. And I had to use these "river-sea" boats to reinforce the navy.

      Our Black Sea Fleet, by the way, was reinforced in the same way with "corvettes of closed seas" - MRK pr. 21631, which were not originally intended for such a theater.
  9. 0
    7 July 2016 14: 15
    Considering the modern UKRALIN traditions of widespread cutting and partitioning, this "Gyurza" was already born stillborn ... But Petenka the drunk fell for beautiful pieces of paper ..
  10. +3
    7 July 2016 14: 39
    Fuck radar? Enough sounder - and for fishing the very thing!
    1. 0
      7 July 2016 16: 45
      Quote: made13
      Fuck radar? Enough sounder - and for fishing the very thing!

      A radar is needed so as not to get into where it is not necessary. For example, in those waters where people who love to give go negative answers:
      As you know, in December 2014, Russia freely moved to the Crimea the drilling rigs B-312 and B-319, which are developing the Odessa gas field. For this, the patrol boat of the border service of the FSB of Russia "Ametist" and the missile boat of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation were enough. The role of the Ukrainian fleet was limited to a request for information on the actions of the Russian side, to which a negative response was received.

      For on the same "pebble" is a 30-mm six-barreled gun.
  11. +1
    7 July 2016 17: 20
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  12. 0
    7 July 2016 20: 50
    Poroshenko, speaking on July 3 in Odessa, was extremely dissatisfied with "meeting the needs of the Naval Forces", noting that "The measures taken by the Cabinet of Ministers, the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff do not currently meet the needs of the comprehensive support of the Naval Forces of Ukraine."

    I so suspect that one enterprise in Ukraine will now be fine with orders and finances, whether the Navy will be good and the presence of such boats will be reflected in the state of the fleet - QUESTION IS SECONDARY!