The Ministry of Defense ordered the third plane Tu-214P

At the end of June, the Russian Defense Ministry issued a contract to the Kazan Aviation Plant (KAZ) for the construction of the third integrated reconnaissance aircraft Tu-214Р, a Kazan resource reported Real time.

According to the information, the head of United Aircraft Building Corporation JSC Yury Slusar told about the award ceremony at the KAZ airfield with departmental awards of the RF Ministry of Defense 17 of the company's employees who serviced Tu-214P reconnaissance aircraft, Tu-160M and Tu strategic reconnaissance aircraft “22М3 during the Syrian operation.”

According to Slyusar, "the newest airplane of radio engineering and optoelectronic reconnaissance Tu-214Р, sent to track the military activity of opponents, met the expectations of the military."

Blog comment bmpd: “Recall that two Tu-214P integrated reconnaissance aircraft (“ 411 product ”, OCD“ Faction-4 ”) were built at KAZ under the contract of November 29 from 2002. The lead developer of the on-board reconnaissance complex is Vega Radio Concern OJSC. The first Tu-214Р aircraft (registration number RF-64511) made the first flight in Kazan 24 December 2009 of the year, and the second (registration number RF-64514) at the end of 2014 of the year ".

Tasks in Syria performed the board with the registration number RF-64514.

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[Andrey K]

... The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at the end of June issued a contract to the Kazan Aircraft Plant (KAZ) for the construction of the third integrated reconnaissance aircraft Tu-214R ...

Heartburn at the border forces
Surely, the use of RF-64514 in Syria showed the need for an additional, third aircraft.

[Oml]

Recall that two Tu-214R complex reconnaissance aircraft ("product 411", ROC "Fraction-4") were built at KAZ under the contract dated November 29, 2002. The first Tu-214R aircraft (registration number RF-64511) made its first flight in Kazan on December 24, 2009, and the second (registration number RF-64514) at the end of 2014

I hope the third one does not fly in 2021.

[cniza]

Quote: Andrey K

... The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at the end of June issued a contract to the Kazan Aircraft Plant (KAZ) for the construction of the third integrated reconnaissance aircraft Tu-214R ...

Heartburn at the border forces
Surely, the use of RF-64514 in Syria showed the need for an additional, third aircraft.

Our borders are large and three planes are not enough.

[Andrey K]

Quote: cniza

Our borders are large and three planes are not enough.

If you consider that the first two (RF-64511, RF-64514) entered service with a time spread of five years, then the contract for the third is already good.
A contract for two aircraft from 2002 onwards. - the first board was launched in 2009, the second in 2014. Due to delays in KAPO, there were unpleasant litigation with the GRU. It’s good that the deadlock has moved.

[Berkut24]

I think they’ll do the third quicker. The previous two were slowed down not so much by the construction of the aircraft itself. how much is its filling. Plus numerous revolutions inside the Moscow Region. Now the car is worked out in construction, Shoigu is not going to retire yet. And the situation in the world props up. The previous 2 sides were made in conditions where there was nowhere to rush.

[73bor]

We just built such aircraft in very small quantities, and the demand for them has always been great! In addition, there was a discussion about what kind of reconnaissance aircraft we need, such as Il-38 or Tu-214r, like no, this is not our way, we need aircraft of the ORION type that are constantly hanging in the air, and the Tu-214 does not suit us!

[Blondy]

This is for sure, if even such a "specialist" as I is hastily added, then for example, to organize a permanent database in at least a couple of districts it will already take 6 pieces. So, you feel strained with the budget, despite the impression made recently around the world.

[vv3]

Stationary air posts are placed at the borders, as an option a balloon or an airship mounted on power cable ropes. It is hundreds of times cheaper and several times more efficient. But we don’t have that, so we are blind and wasteful ... And they need an information computer center, and this is fantastic for our slow-thinking people, and so we are ahead ...

[dsm100]

Well done. Keep it up.

[newcomer]

but this is great news. small, but the victory of our aircraft industry and intelligence of the vks. nicely.

[Altona]

Quote: newbie

but this is great news. small, but the victory of our aircraft industry and intelligence of the vks. nicely.

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Civil aircraft must be built, and not spend currency on Boeings.

[Muvka]

Quote: Altona

Quote: newbie

but this is great news. small, but the victory of our aircraft industry and intelligence of the vks. nicely.

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Civil aircraft must be built, and not spend currency on Boeings.

MS-21, no?

[Altona]

Quote: Muvka

MS-21, no?

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Yes, at least. At least MS-21, at least SSJ-100, and even the same Tu-214. Why is he good as a scout, but bad as a civilian?
PS Someone I remember shouted in 2006-2007 that there was a lot of money, we will buy it! Well, "bought" and "no money, but you hold on." And technological sanctions along with financial ones.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Altona

Why is he good as a scout, but bad as a civilian?

The heavy Tu-204SM, therefore, began to design the MS-21, composite wings and new engines should reduce fuel consumption very much.

[Altona]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

The heavy Tu-204SM, therefore, began to design the MS-21, composite wings and new engines should reduce fuel consumption very much.

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This is understandable, we are talking about "building at all" so as not to lose staff and technology. Competences as they say now. Because it is easiest to raze it to the ground like Voronezh, but it is very difficult to grow a team and a design school.

[73bor]

And remember how they killed the Red Wings, their entire fleet was Tu-214, you just need to ask the owners of large air carriers - how many suitcases of cut green paper they brought so that they would not take our planes!

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: 73bor

And remember how they killed the Red Wings, their entire fleet was Tu-214, you just need to ask the owners of large air carriers - how many suitcases of cut green paper they brought so that they would not take our planes!

RedWings is not particularly interested in fuel efficiency, as it is a charter airline that carries tourists on vacation. If you recall the same Turkey, then a 10-day trip with a charter flight and all included costs 20-25 thousand rubles, regular flights by plane cost only 25 thousand rubles, not including hotel accommodation and meals.

[propolsky]

Higher and higher and higher!

[avt]

Quote: propolsky

Higher and higher and higher!

Less and less, and less, the remainder hurt by Tu. And there are NO NEW! If the Tu-204/214 line of vehicles were in the series, then there would not be a question about the PLO airplane for the far zone and the old, good Ilya would not patch it. By the way, they rolled DAM on a wooden horse, well, they rolled out MAKET MS- under fanfare 21, but the airplane has not even been lifted into the air, not even certified! And the competitors in the series and they already have orders! Iran has already ordered pieces of 80 seem 737 MAX from a Boeing ... And BEFORE this Airbuses, well, when the Po-GSS sect tried to play ahead of the curve with the Superbudget, then somehow our cooperative friends in the Superbudget immediately had a patchport of the final recipient / user of the airplane, well, they say sanctions. And then, when they extinguished, how about under the "lifting" of the sanctions, contracts were signed for HUNDREDS of analogs to Iran from Airbus and Boeing, the latter, by the way, invested intellectual property in the Superbudget. announced, demanding the state compensation. They were five years late from the MC, the idea is not mine - the SSI has already voiced it on the site and this is really being embodied in a feeling.

[Wedmak]

So on the MS-21 it seems like there are already orders.

it really translates into a feeling.

I have a real feeling that without a kick from Putin, Shoigu and another 2-3 persons of the state, everything is done according to the type of "how to do the semblance of work and grab a piece for yourself." Bottom line: work is going on, but slowly, one might even say crawling like a wounded fighter in both legs and both arms. After another kick to the GDP or an announcement of the interest of the IC, SUDDENLY work begins to gallop briskly like a horse, and along the way many "interesting" details of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation come to light.
That is how many officials need to be planted so that they start to think in the right direction with their head?

[donavi49]

MS-21 orders from Wikidot (profile wiki MS-21 http://mc-21.wikidot.com/sales):
VEB Leasing 30
Ilyushin Finance Co. 50

These are Leasing companies that have taken to raise the side, with the intention of leasing in the future, they still do not have final AKs.

Russian Technologies State Corporation 15 and 35/35 - the order is rooted by the time the company sawed its AK along with Moscow City Hall.

Crecom Burj Berhad is a Malaysian leasing company, a separate division of the Crecom Burj Group. Unfortunately, the current status of the company and the group itself cannot be determined. There is no live data on Google - the official website http://www.crecomburj.com has been dead for several years.

The rest are only intentions.

[bk316]

Quote: Wedmak

That is how many officials need to be planted so that they start to think in the right direction with their head?

I also thought about it.
After all, they plant a lot and are not afraid.
It seems that the landing message stopped working.
I think we need a message with a shot.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: bk316

After all, they plant a lot and are not afraid.

Why be afraid? Well, they'll scold him like Serdyukov. Well, they will stay at home for a couple of years "under arrest" ...

Quote: bk316

I think we need a message with a shot.

Ideally, yes. Only there is a feeling that they will not go for it.

[Ustin]

Presumably they took a personal part in the roll-out, if so you declare. And if not, of which for some reason I’m sure, they would not mislead the people. Not beautiful somehow ...
For MS -21, what was done on the car before "rolling out" will most likely allow the car to be lifted into the air in December. Of course, no one is immune from "jambs", but the chance is big enough.
So next time try to be more objective. (I don’t put any minuses in principle)

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: avt

If the Tu-204/214 line of cars were in the series,

Is she not in the series? On the Tu-204CM for dozens of orders. The charter airline RedWings ordered 15 boards + an option for 10.

[avt]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

Is she not in the series? On the Tu-204CM for dozens of orders.

The backlog is being finished, just like the IL-114s are going to release from the backlog of Tashkent next year.

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

. The charter airline RedWings ordered 15 boards + an option for 10.

As of June 12, 2016, there are 13 airliners in the Red Wings Airlines fleet. The average age of aircraft is 6.9 years.
The oldest is Tupolev Tu-204-100, with tail number RA-64019. His age is 15.5 years. The newest is the Sukhoi Superjet 100-95B, with tail number RA-89010. He is 3.9 years old.
Further plans to increase the fleet are also associated with the purchase of exclusively Russian liners.

Moreover, the superbudgets merged into Irkutsk and seem to be Yakutia and are waiting for the MS-21.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: avt

Moreover, the superbudgets merged into Irkutsk and seem to be Yakutia and are waiting for the MS-21.

Superjet 100 with a capacity of about 100 passengers were not profitable for them.

Quote: avt

Touched off

Which ground? The Tu-204SM is essentially a brand new aircraft, new avionics, electronics, etc. etc., if more economical engines were installed and composite wings were designed, it would be no worse than the MC-21.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Wings_Airlines
10 ordered (on the page about the Tu-204CM there was information that a 15 + 10 option was ordered, perhaps the order was reduced because of the MS-21, the order for 10 MS-21 aircraft is indicated)

[Magic archer]

The Americans raised such a howl about the new scout! The fact that their Boeings are constantly grazing on our borders is nothing, but as soon as we have a decent answer, there’s a scream and panic. What kind of people ?!

[Stas157]

It is interesting why the MO does not order more modern Tu-204SM?

[avt]

Quote: Stas157

It is interesting why the MO does not order more modern Tu-204SM?

Marshal Sergeev also wanted a PLO at the Tu base, as now the USs are transplanted to Poseidon.
Cooperation for serial production of the Tu-204/214 U-BI-TA! And despite the stamping of the DAM leg - import substitute! They really cannot restore it, and they won’t let it, like we are waiting for the MS-21.

[Dr. Sorge]

Is everything gone and so bad? Somehow sad from this. Is this information accurate with you?

[FID]

Quote: Stas157

It is interesting why the MO does not order more modern Tu-204SM?

The slipways of SMki and the 214th are different ... and the SMK is being built in Ulyanovsk, and in Kazan the special-purpose equipment has been worked out and the regime has been saved, and a few other little things ... Something like that ...

[newcomer]

Altona, so after all, the ss100 successfully went out, the next ms21. presidential packer ordered several that 204. what is the panic?

[newcomer]

avt, well, enough already our aircraft industry is flawed to represent. the same Irish and English companies buy our ss100. Well, not everything is going smoothly, but what did you want? _ so that competitors and Russophobes lay the red carpet on our planes?

[FID]

Quote: newbie

english company

What is this, if not secret?

[avt]

Quote: SSI

What is this, if not secret?

Probably the type of that Belgian one, which went bankrupt and refused an option.

[avt]

Quote: newbie

avt, well, enough already our aircraft industry is flawed to represent. the same Irish and English companies buy our ss100.

Take off your rose-colored glasses and just look for direct speech from Irkut

“There are 15 target customers among airlines with a market share of 94%, but only three have not yet reported financial problems,” said Mr. Budaev. Irkut is “forced to apply for financial support from the state” of sales of MS-21 (revision of subsidy regulations). Meanwhile, the state is already more than actively financing the project. It was assumed that about 21 billion rubles, including 190 billion rubles, would be spent on the creation of the MS-70. state funds, in 2013 the amount of $ 3,9 billion was unofficially called, and the share of state support was to grow to 69%. In the state program for the development of the aviation industry of the Russian Federation in 2013–2025, 21 billion rubles were taken into account at MS-86,9.

This is very similar to the situation with the SSJ-100 project. It was assumed that the model will be promoted in foreign markets, but so far a large order has come only from the Mexican Interjet. The main sales are in Russia, and the state had to introduce support measures: guaranteeing the residual value of the aircraft, direct re-capitalization of the UAC for 100 billion rubles, subsidizing the interest rate on leasing transactions. So, it was decided to allocate 100 billion rubles for the SSJ-30. IFC may receive IFC for additional capitalization of the State Transport Leasing Company, state guarantees for the supply of 20 aircraft for Aeroflot

Well, about

Quote: newbie

so ss100 went out well,

Here is about Boeing

According to the Associated Press, Iranian Transport Minister Abbas Ahundi said the deal could be valued at $ 25 billion. Thus, the total number of delivered aircraft should be about 100 pieces.

Well

In January 2016, the European company Airbus announced that it plans to sign an agreement with Iran to supply 118 aircraft. The deal was valued at $ 27 billion.

Superbudget came out to catch butterflies. By the way, about

Quote: newbie

next ms21.

according to Slusar, a 70% domestic plane. Localization, of course, is not comparable in comparison with the Super Budget, but before that the Tu-204/214 still has to work on 30%.

[Wedmak]

Well, actually it’s stupid to count on a quick capture of an already divided market. Neither Boeing and Airbass will so easily give their piece away. Moreover, they have a well-functioning production line, conveyor, and we are just gaining momentum.
If you have money, what do you buy, time-tested Honda / Toyota / Honda / etc. or our west / hrey from which xs what to expect?

[avt]

Quote: Wedmak

If you have money, what do you buy, time-tested Honda / Toyota / Honda / etc. or our west / hrey from which xs what to expect?

I wanted to cut But I will invite you to think about the logical connection between some facts. Why, when they whined in the 90s about globalization and Grefovskoe - the Germans make cars, so they need to buy them, the Russian business was thrown out of Ayerbas, not allowing them to raise their share to 20% with such purchases of their airplanes, and even multiplied their production by almost zero ? In fact, in the USSR, they made 100 airplanes a year for the Civil Air Fleet. Why did they crush the necessary An-7X AND STEAL TO SCULPTING No. 400, which, "suddenly" turned out to be a complete shit? This is a question of quality. in cooperation with them, so much so that they drowned a whole line of Tu from 204/214/334 and other 114 Il and An 124, so that this miracle of a COMMERCIAL PROJECT without subsidies from the RUSSIAN BUDGET is impossible to stick in? Why did the Boeing deal with Iran go AFTER they crushed the Superbudget, stopped Airbus, well, the sanctions, and even the judge in the USA declared Iran in the ... attack on the twin towers and demanded to use their frozen billions for compensation? Then questions about

Quote: Wedmak

time-tested Honda / Toyota / Hyundai / etc.

They won’t worry, especially in the light of air transportation. Now there would be no happiness, but misfortune would help. Airbus Helicopter went to the production of light messershits with localization in Russia, for example, Ansat and Ka are on their engines for a minute, and they won’t make soybeans in metal 4 years later, but I’m not talking about the series, but they were allowed to sell it in particular flight hours.

[Evil 55]

Yes, only there is a need for at least 10 cars of this class ...

[x.andvlad]

The latest Tu-214R radio-technical and optical-electronic reconnaissance aircraft, sent to track the military activity of opponents, met the expectations of the military. ”
Of course, it would be interesting to know where they flew, what they saw, what they justified, etc. And then some general information. saying only that they ordered the third unit and that’s it.

[avg-mgn]

Quote: x.andvlad

Of course, it would be interesting to know where they flew, what they saw, what they justified, etc. And then some general information. saying only that they ordered the third unit and that’s it.

So the NATO members take an interest, though they also have a secret, (but this is so, general information).

[newcomer]

SSI, let's take it in order. Irish city widget. Danish Greenland Express about English, a private company, in my opinion from London, if this is important, I will find the link MANDATORY write. besides ss100 davolno successfully sold from lat. America to the countries of Asia.

[avt]

Quote: newbie

ss100 quite successfully sold from lat. America to the countries of Asia.

Is it about screwed back from Laos and Indonesia? Well, which are now in different "Yakutia" shove. How is it with the co-production in China, which Po still blabbered about? The number of purchased by China ..... Boeing, well, analogues of the Super Budget is weak to search and find?

Quote: newbie

avt, wait a second.

For a second

Quote: avt

Take off the pink glasses

And you will leave the astral plane and the sect of the "GSS Witnesses".

[Stirbjorn]

Well, actually, yes, except for the Mexicans and now ordered the Irish, the super-destination didn’t go anywhere abroad, for so much time - although it was positioned as a plane, primarily for export, given its localization

[FID]

Quote: newbie

I will find the link MANDATORY write.

Yes, you shouldn't ... The official statement on the AEX website (from the operators, of course) - the reliability (reliability) of the SSJ-100 is 52% ... This means that HALF of the fleet of any a / c COST! And out of 100 cars produced, about 60-65 are in operation ... Where are the rest? I have been in aviation for more than 30 years, I will somehow sort out the issues of operation ... And with the MS-21 we were 5 years late ... By 2018, 60 new "watermelons" will be produced per MONTH. And ours are planning to produce as many as 70 MS-21 per YEAR by some year. It's called - Feel the Difference ...

[avt]

Quote: SSI

This means that HALF of the park of any a / c is worth it! And out of 100 cars produced, about 60-65 are in operation ... Where are the rest?

The rest are under warranty waiting for spare parts because of the cordon .... for which the operator of the GSS forces also to pay customs duties! The SCA has already done this zahermazo with “Yakutia.” This is the understanding of the warranty service for airplanes from the SCAC - another way to take money according to the behests of O. Bender, without violating the RF CC.

[Dr. Sorge]

With a good start!

[newcomer]

avt, wait a second. Airbus with Boeing have well-functioning logistics throughout Europe and not only, a constant sales market and buyers of the type voluntarily forced. Dry has released TWO civilian models and in fierce competition it successfully fits into the sales market. until the Yankees with air dry is still far in terms of sales, so far. and how much they sold a Boeing with Airbus is unimportant to me. if I’m not mistaken, your point of view ss100 and ms21 are not needed. I see the successful start of the civil aviation of the Russian Federation as successful in principle, more precisely in principle, only an ardent writer can not see this. I repeat, and all this in a tough and dirty competition.

[atamankko]

So a very useful bird turned out, that's good.

[newcomer]

avt, what are you talking about now?

[avt]

Quote: newbie

avt, what are you talking about now?

And now, and generally long ago, that the Super Budget from the GSS to

Quote: newbie

have a successful start to civil aviation

respect

Quote: newbie

in principle, more precisely in principle,

does not have. What comes out of the MS-21 - let's see, well, if he really is at least 70% initially his own. BUT

Quote: avt

They were five years late from the MS, the thought was not mine - the SSI on the site has already been voiced and this really translates into a feeling.

[newcomer]

avt you together with SSI look at your feelings. that's when they come true to see the trouble. But for now, I look at my feelings about the project being and it is breakthrough.

[FID]

Quote: newbie

the project to be and he is a breakthrough.

But where is it breaking through? All our breakthroughs end with a big cut of money ... I’ve been butting for 3 years already, but he’s also BREAKTHROUGH, and now UAC is REDUCING the release of supers so as not to accumulate LOSSES ...

[bk316]

Quote: SSI

now UAC REDUCES the release of supers so as not to accumulate LOSSES ..

I don’t know, but you should know.
Have we ever had commercially successful projects in the field of medium and long-haul civil aviation in Russia or the USSR? Well, of course, taking into account subsidies, embargoes, sanctions, counter-sanctions ...

[FID]

Quote: bk316

Have we ever had commercially successful projects in the field of medium and long-haul civil aviation in Russia or the USSR?

In Russia, definitely NO. Consider: Tu-154 produced more than 1000 units (a competitor, at one time a Boeing), Tu-134 produced more than 850 aircraft, IL-62 produced about 300 aircraft, IL-18 - about 300 aircraft ... These are all MAJOR aircraft. Something like this...

[bk316]

Quote: SSI

Tu-154 released over 1000 pieces

Well, as far as I understand it, in the USSR, air transportation was so dated that the question of payback was not even raised. Probably the aircraft industry was dated.
Therefore, it is necessary to judge not how much they did, but how much have sold abroad, and not to the social camp. This will be a real estimate from below market sales. As I understand it, it's less than 100 cars, and 737 was bought somewhere under 10000. Well, that is the difference in 100 time. That is, as the saying goes, "they did not live well and should not start."
Or am I wrong somewhere?

[avt]

Quote: newbie

avt you together with SSI look at your feelings. that's when they come true to see the trouble.

That's what I always liked sectarians - NO facts are taken into the brain! That's even the deprivation of the GSS license for servicing the actually produced Super Budget is not a fact - he covered himself with a blanket and continues to fail. To begin with, figure out what is a fact that was completely publicly confirmed, as promised

Quote: newbie

I will find the link MANDATORY write.

and not your own "ochucheniya" hastily knock in hopelessness to embarrass your opponent. Well, okay - I passed by and through the hammered Soviet education system straight according to Academician Pavlov's reflex, someone began to compare the facts, well, as taught - there is such a drawback to teach life in the aviation industry! This is one of two - the first second - see the first.

[cheburator]

Fully Approved!

[Slavick1969]

God forbid that would be more

[masiya]

WILL BE LITTLE ... it is necessary to create more such ships and send them into flight, this is only for the benefit of the manufacturers, and there will be and will be problems for consumers of the Russian Aerospace Forces, but the Fatherland needs protection and all defense issues must be resolved .. !!! (Shoigu will help !!!)