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Former Polish President advised Kiev “to give up the dream of becoming a member of NATO”

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The ex-president of Poland, Aleksander Kwasniewski, speaking at the Körber Foundation event in Warsaw, expressed concern about the fate of the European Union, reports RIA News.



"In the next three to five years, chaos will occur in Europe,"
stated Kwasniewski.

“Because of Brexit, the European Union faced one of the most difficult situations in its stories", - he explained, not excluding in the future the holding of referendums in Europe, similar to the British.

The politician supported the desire of Kiev "once to become a full member of the European Union," but called on the Ukrainian authorities "to abandon the dream of becoming a member of NATO."

The agency recalls that Kwasniewski served as president in 1995-2005, during this period Poland joined NATO (1999 g), and then in the EU (2004 g).
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RIA News. Vitaly Podvitsky
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  1. scrap123
    scrap123 4 July 2016 09: 50
    +8
    now there will be a squeal))
    1. Dimontius
      Dimontius 4 July 2016 09: 51
      +2
      "Yes, he's a former, you think that the president ..." dill ©
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 4 July 2016 10: 02
        +12
        Quote: Dimontius
        "Yes, he is a former, you think that the president ..
        So Kwasniewski is right - as long as Ukraine has territorial disputes with its neighbors, then, according to the NATO Charter, it will not see membership in the alliance. Otherwise, Ukrainians will have to recognize the Russian Crimea. Although, I think, no real progress will be made in the issue of membership in this organization - the current Banderstadt will cease to exist as an integral and sovereign state much earlier.
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 July 2016 10: 18
          +6
          “Because of Brexit, the European Union has faced one of the most difficult situations in its history,” he explained, not excluding future referenda in the European countries like the British.


          This process has passed the point of return; it is no longer reversible.
        2. The comment was deleted.
      2. icy
        icy 4 July 2016 10: 12
        +1
        "... here in Kyrgyzstan
        Any second is ayatola,
        and even - Hoymeni ... "
        © V.S. Vysotsky
        1. your1970
          your1970 4 July 2016 10: 31
          -1
          icy
          Have you ever read before squeezing, I'm not talking about thinking ...
          Immediately only "Any second" coincided, and everything else is porridge swapped ...
        2. pv1005
          pv1005 4 July 2016 22: 20
          0
          Quote: icas
          "... here in Kyrgyzstan
          Any second is ayatola,
          and even - Hoymeni ... "
          © V.S. Vysotsky

          Read or listen carefully to the source. hi
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 4 July 2016 10: 43
        +2
        Former President of Poland Advised Kiev "abandon the dream of becoming a member of NATO"

        Only for maydaunov this is not advice, but insult. Horse racing and idiotic cries will begin now fool
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 4 July 2016 11: 09
          +10
          Quote: GSH-18
          Only for maydaunov this is not advice, but insult. Horse racing and idiotic cries will begin now

          Let them jump, in NATO only these clowns are still not enough)))
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 4 July 2016 09: 57
      +7
      Former Polish President advised Kiev “to give up the dream of becoming a member of NATO”
      how so? can't it? they knocked out the stool from the "puppies"! They were also hopeful of the current after the "exit" of Naglia from the EU, to take its place, and then to join "Natu" ... and those hello ...! goodbye "lace panties" ...
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 4 July 2016 09: 58
      +12
      Quote: scrap123
      now there will be a squeal))

      Yes, in dill for a week they have been shouting: "Shame and Zrada", last week Frau Murkel said that Ukraine shouldn't do figs in the EU, now the romance with NATO is not working out .... fellow Zrada in one word. bully
    4. icy
      icy 4 July 2016 10: 04
      0
      "Isho" one "peremoga"!
    5. Kent0001
      Kent0001 4 July 2016 10: 23
      0
      Complete zrada. Even from the Poles.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 4 July 2016 10: 45
        +1
        No need to injure the psyche of Svidomo such news, and it is so clear that he is an agent of the Kremlin laughing laughing
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 July 2016 10: 43
      +5
      Former Polish President advised Kiev “to give up the dream of becoming a member of NATO”

      And in general, be at least some member ...
    7. joopel
      joopel 4 July 2016 10: 49
      +2
      Well said and said. I, too, oracle. It’s already clear to any more or less adequate person that dill not be in NATO or in the EU. Even the dill themselves began to reach slowly.
    8. Krasniy_lis
      Krasniy_lis 4 July 2016 11: 37
      0
      Quote: scrap123
      now there will be a squeal))

      yah. Senya has already voiced everything that dill can say. They will "demand")) Or tell that Europe itself will ask for a "great empire"
      lol
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 4 July 2016 09: 51
    +11
    How so, and why on the Maidan tambourines ... wassat
    Everything went to ashes ... laughing
    The politician supported the desire of Kiev "to one day become a full member of the European Union," but he called on the Ukrainian authorities to "abandon the dream of becoming a member of NATO"

    We have a saying with you: "Nothing is more permanent than temporary" (c)
    (Kozma Rods)
    That is - neither Europe, nor NATO. Fate loshar, gallop with tambourines laughing
    1. major071
      major071 4 July 2016 09: 53
      +39
      Threw it in haste:


      Descendants of the "proud" Mazepa
      They don’t take something in the EU
      Bandera "wise" tips
      Do not pave the way for NATO
      Nafig you do not need Europe
      Jumping the country all smashed
      Left just naked
      And to blame ... moskali!
      wink drinks
      1. icy
        icy 4 July 2016 10: 06
        +6
        I'd use it like that!
      2. joopel
        joopel 4 July 2016 12: 28
        0
        ABOUT! You naher do not need Europe! What? So could it be? Here I am loshara! Well that's it, now I'll turn around! Now stick out! Hold on, moderators! Thanks to major071.
    2. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 4 July 2016 10: 21
      +2
      "Nothing is more permanent than temporary"
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 4 July 2016 09: 52
    0
    The politician supported the desire of Kiev "to one day become a full member of the European Union," but he called on the Ukrainian authorities to "abandon the dream of becoming a member of NATO"


    Ukraine in NATO (or NATO in UKRAINE) ... is a direct threat to our security ...

    hehe, as always, retired politicians in POLAND and the EU understand this and urge us not to make us angry ...
    it’s a pity that the current politicians are doing exactly the opposite.
  4. Evil 55
    Evil 55 4 July 2016 09: 52
    +2
    Every unnatural has its own period of decay ...
  5. gray smeet
    gray smeet 4 July 2016 09: 52
    +23
    “Chaos will come in Europe in the next three to five years,” Kwasniewski said.


    The British will stop giving money to the common pot, which is almost 1/3 of the EU budget (2/3 Germany and France) .. The British culturally planted the Germans and the French - they will feed the whole of Europe and the arriving migrants laughing Here Kwasniewski became a soothsayer ..
    1. icy
      icy 4 July 2016 10: 19
      0
      Was there one black - now one white (or 2)?
    2. your1970
      your1970 4 July 2016 10: 35
      0
      gray smeet
      Now the French will show concrete figures in the direction of England - 5: 2 they filled those who shook you. Laughter, laughter, but this can also affect politics ..
  6. Riv
    Riv 4 July 2016 09: 54
    +7
    A member? You should not even dream. There, a completely, completely different organ will turn out. And this nifiga is not the head, who did not understand.
    1. icy
      icy 4 July 2016 10: 23
      0
      Arthropods have no brain in the head.
      1. Riv
        Riv 4 July 2016 13: 27
        0
        Well ... Once upon a time.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 July 2016 09: 56
    +7
    called on the Ukrainian authorities to "abandon the dream of becoming a member of NATO."

    It is difficult to abandon the dream that has been cherished for two years and feed its population with breakfast (tomorrow we are in Europe, and the day after tomorrow we will join NATO). And so I want to enter somewhere, but so far I have managed only in my own shit.
  8. evil partisan
    evil partisan 4 July 2016 10: 01
    +3
    Who has not wiped his feet about the EU-NATO mriy hahlov? Moldovans with Georgians, or what? what
  9. soaring
    soaring 4 July 2016 10: 15
    +1
    Quote: major071
    Threw it in haste:


    Descendants of the "proud" Mazepa
    They don’t take something in the EU
    Bandera "wise" tips
    Do not pave the way for NATO
    You do not need Europe
    Jumping the country all smashed
    Left just naked
    And to blame ... moskali!
    wink drinks

    I agree to become the "right hand" in the release of the book of the same "DISCOUNTS" !!! good drinks
    I think success will be amazing !!!! yes fellow
  10. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 4 July 2016 10: 19
    +6
    The politician supported the desire of Kiev "once to become a full member of the European Union," but called on the Ukrainian authorities "to abandon the dream of becoming a member of NATO."

    in fact, the words "full-fledged", "EU" and "NATO" are omitted.
  11. prior
    prior 4 July 2016 10: 21
    +1
    Ukraine went so decisively to Europe that it ended up in Africa (in terms of living standards).
    But the movement continues, curious, where will they come?
  12. atamankko
    atamankko 4 July 2016 10: 40
    +1
    Nobody needs them, jumpers cannot do anything,
    except barking at Russia, begging and theft.
  13. sgr291158
    sgr291158 4 July 2016 11: 02
    0
    Now the tantrum will begin, and then the Poles will be declared war.
  14. Tulip
    Tulip 4 July 2016 11: 10
    +1
    In Pshek, apples apparently crawled out of their ears. Only if we need their apples, with such agricultural growth in Russia and such investments of the Agricultural Bank, we have our own Michurins, we will grow watermelons on birch trees.
  15. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 4 July 2016 11: 27
    0
    Kwasniewski's sober argument - well, why did the geyrope have extra discord with Russia in the most difficult period for the West itself.
  16. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 4 July 2016 11: 45
    +7
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: Dimontius
    "Yes, he is a former, you think that the president ..
    So Kwasniewski is right - as long as Ukraine has territorial disputes with its neighbors, then, according to the NATO Charter, it will not see membership in the alliance. Otherwise, Ukrainians will have to recognize the Russian Crimea. Although, I think, no real progress will be made in the issue of membership in this organization - the current Banderstadt will cease to exist as an integral and sovereign state much earlier.

    I agree, there will be no progress. However, the reality is that when the striped ones want, they will drag anyone into NATO, and give a damn about all the rules. I hope it will cost and the country 404 will "see clearly" in one way or another
  17. Wolka
    Wolka 4 July 2016 12: 40
    +1
    I don’t like Poles, a puffy, cocky nation, but you don’t understand how to boast about it, naked like a stump, but don’t feed bread, give a fight, but they get pretty in the face, too, because they were and will be through life for a dirty, vile laborer .. .
  18. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 4 July 2016 13: 43
    0
    The former, as always, are seeing. Unfortunately, not to the end: please, as a member of the EU, and no, not to NATO.
  19. Lex.
    Lex. 4 July 2016 13: 57
    +1
    Poles toze cusat hotsetsa
    England 16 mln gave to the general budget now the freebie is over and the Poles do not go to Ukraine to share crumbs from the master's table
  20. Appraiser
    Appraiser 4 July 2016 14: 42
    -1
    Anecdote: Was it true that you were a "member" of NATO? Yes, truth! Member here, member there ... yes hi
  21. afrikanez
    afrikanez 4 July 2016 16: 03
    0
    Ukraine is useless to either advise. Their atrophied brain does not accept anything except Maidan. Belief in your dream of the EU and NATO will remain unrealizable.
  22. Dark
    Dark 4 July 2016 16: 21
    0
    Former!! Balabol is nothing!
  23. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 4 July 2016 16: 54
    0
    Quote: Talker
    Does anyone even seriously take the president of Poland? Maybe there is any more interesting news than saying third-rate politicians about Ukraine?

    20-30s of the last century, you, do not remind you of anything ???! To take away the sovereignty of politics. not always, you need military force !!! Therefore, it is necessary to follow the words of "third-rate politicians" !!!
  24. masiya
    masiya 4 July 2016 20: 32
    0
    "In the next three to five years, chaos will set in Europe," Kwasniewski said. "He said correctly, only with the timing he was a little mistaken. CHAOS has already begun - with the Britons, Scots, Irish, with the Czechs who also want to hold a referendum, but how they were not offended by being late for the European table, they chose chairs for the buttocks for too long - sometimes one is not enough, then two are large, and neither EURO, nor NATO, NO FIGA does not shine for them, only washing in their own shit, in the East, and in the West too.
  25. KRIG55
    KRIG55 4 July 2016 23: 18
    0
    Let him advise you to abandon your dreams altogether ...