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DNR: the armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who disagree with the policies of Kiev, can go to the side of the republic

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The command of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR suggested that Ukrainian security officials, who disagree with the policies of the Kiev authorities, side with the republic, reports DAN statement by the representative of the military department of the Donetsk Republic Eduard Basurin.


DNR: the armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who disagree with the policies of Kiev, can go to the side of the republic


“We offer the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, those who disagree with the policy pursued by the Kiev authorities, to side with the republic. Our goal is peace in the Donbas! ”Said Basurin.

Meanwhile, according to Poroshenko’s advisor, Vladimir Gorbulin, the current situation in the Donbass is reminiscent of “the calm before the storm.”

According to him, this “lull” is fraught with “macro-danger”. “In fact, we observe only the paradigm shift in the unfolding of this long-term conflict,” the adviser said.

“Moreover, an alarming feeling of“ calm before the storm ”is forming, especially given the activity that Russia continues to unfold in the territory of the“ DNR / LPR ”, as well as the Crimea (which many regularly forget about). The prospect of large-scale clashes is becoming more pronounced on the horizon ", - he writes in his article for ZN.UA.

Recall, on Sunday, the DPR MO reported a massive night shelling, during which about 200 mines were released on the territory of the republic.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 4 July 2016 09: 28
    +28
    “We offer the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, those who disagree with the policy pursued by the Kiev authorities, to side with the republic. Our goal is peace in the Donbas! ”Said Basurin.


    Unless the United States gets out of there, there will be no peace in the Donbass, unfortunately.
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 4 July 2016 09: 31
      +31
      Yeah, go over, and relatives, relatives, welcome to the dungeons of the SBU.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 4 July 2016 09: 45
        +10
        Quote: Lyton
        and relatives, relatives, welcome to the dungeons of the SBU.
        The dungeons of the SBU are not rubber - they do not transplant everyone. And besides, few ukrovermaht to this appeal Basurin respond. I doubt that even a few - who wanted to, have long been fighting on the side of the republics.
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 4 July 2016 10: 15
          +13
          I will add for minusers: you take off your rose-colored glasses. How many VSUshnikov went over to the side of the militia, eh? Especially now, when, due to the difficult economic situation, the service in the ukroverrmacht is for many the only real source of income. 300-400 dollars a month (which is now coming out-zoldaten in the ATO zone) and for many citizens of the Russian Federation - very decent money, and for Ukrainians - generally prohibitive. Well, plus the constant ideological pumping about the "Downbass separatist cattle" and Russian aggression clearly do not contribute to the sympathy of the "extraordinary" Ukrainians towards the unrecognized republics.
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 4 July 2016 10: 24
            +7
            If suddenly someone runs across, there is a possibility that they may even send the "sent Cossacks" under the guise of defectors ..
            1. Ze Kot
              Ze Kot 4 July 2016 18: 30
              +1
              Quote: Mikado
              If suddenly someone runs across, there is a possibility that they may even send the "sent Cossacks" under the guise of defectors ..


              Maybe for this they announce?
              1. Mikado
                Mikado 4 July 2016 20: 46
                0
                Quote: The Cat
                Maybe for this they announce?

                Well, no one has yet to cancel a special check)) SMERSH is not asleep, I hope!
          2. razmik72
            razmik72 4 July 2016 10: 24
            0
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            I will add for minusers: you take off your rose-colored glasses. How many VSUshnikov went over to the side of the militia? Especially now, when, due to the difficult economic situation, service in the ukroverrmacht is for many the only real source of income. 300-400 dollars a month (which is now coming out-zoldaten now receive in the ATO zone) and for the majority of citizens of the Russian Federation - very decent money, and for Ukrainians - generally prohibitive. Well, plus the constant ideological pumping about the "Downbass separatist cattle" and Russian aggression.

            Each of the parties in the Donbass conflict has its own truth, they adhere to it and are unlikely to give in to the militia en masse.
          3. Rom14
            Rom14 4 July 2016 10: 56
            +3
            Yes, we have in Omsk 15 tr already not bad, though in average terms we get 40 pieces. (rubles) The massacre will be until our amers agree ...
          4. bk316
            bk316 4 July 2016 12: 22
            +3
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            00-400 dollars a month (which ukro-zoldaten now receive in the anti-terrorist operation zone) and for many citizens of the Russian Federation - very decent money,

            Well, for the Russian Federation-hardly. 20000 is nothing at my company as a cleaning lady gets so much in white.
            1. Aleks76
              Aleks76 4 July 2016 14: 53
              0
              Which city is respected? In Kaluga, 20-25 is considered normal, and the "average", of course, exceeds 40
        2. Stalker.1977
          Stalker.1977 4 July 2016 10: 22
          +4
          The dungeons of the SBU are not rubber - they do not transplant everyone. And besides, few ukrovermaht to this appeal Basurin respond. I doubt that even a few - who wanted to, have long been fighting on the side of the republics.

          I do not agree with you, it has long been known that Ukrostan built several concentration camps
          and builds more. But no matter how filthy it is, it feels its end, it agonizes and lutes in a terrible way.
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 4 July 2016 10: 50
        +1
        DNR: the armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who disagree with the policies of Kiev, can go to the side of the republic

        This is the right move. Only mishandled need to be filtered.
      3. revnagan
        revnagan 4 July 2016 13: 31
        0
        Quote: Lyton
        Yeah, go over, and relatives, relatives, welcome to the dungeons of the SBU.

        Only those with families will be transferred to the liberated territory, and there are no prerequisites for this for 2 years.
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 4 July 2016 10: 10
      +11
      Quote: cniza
      , go over to the side of the republic, reports DAN

      So they move on, they even run away .... who is in Russia, who is in Europe, and who wanted to be in the militia for a long time and are in it. request
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 4 July 2016 10: 17
      0
      DNR: Armed Forces of Ukraine, disagreeing with the policy of Kiev, can go over to the side of the republics
      and they will be given a cart with a "maxim"? somewhere I already heard this: "beat the red ones until they turn white, beat the white ones until they turn red." (C) "but I do not agree ..." (C) ...
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 July 2016 10: 34
      +1
      Peace in the Donbass will be then when all the APU and the National Battles will grind.
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 July 2016 10: 47
      +4
      [quote =] Recall that on Sunday, the DPR Defense Ministry reported a massive night shelling, during which about 200 mines were fired on the territory of the republic.
      [Quote]
      We have such attacks every day ...
      Today I will write a summary, on the VO website you will see it tomorrow.
  2. Berber
    Berber 4 July 2016 09: 29
    +2
    Ukraine will not go to large-scale hostilities. They will make provocations in order to discredit, first of all, Russia. They are in time trouble, so convulsions began. And it hurts not only Ukraine, but also the United States, which needs a war in the Donbas.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 4 July 2016 10: 04
      0
      Quote: BerBer
      Ukraine will not go to large-scale hostilities. They will make provocations in order to discredit, first of all, Russia. They are in time trouble, so convulsions began. And it hurts not only Ukraine, but also the United States, which needs a war in the Donbas.

      On large-scale, maybe not, but to exacerbate the situation completely, since on the eve of the NATO summit in Warsaw, this will more than meet the interests of the United States, since this will once again make it possible to accuse Russia of aggression and press down the "doubters" of the need strengthening the mattress group in Europe, inclining to make the necessary decisions.
    2. razmik72
      razmik72 4 July 2016 10: 13
      -4
      Quote: BerBer
      Ukraine will not go to large-scale hostilities. They will make provocations in order to discredit, first of all, Russia. They are in time trouble, so convulsions began. And it hurts not only Ukraine, but also the United States, which needs a war in the Donbas.

      If the same States really need war, then I don’t understand why they don’t deliver lethal weapons to Ukraine, and every year they can supply weapons worth 15-20 billion dollars without any damage to the United States. Ukraine itself tearfully asks the same staffers .
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 4 July 2016 10: 57
        +5
        Quote: razmik72
        I don’t understand why they don’t deliver lethal weapons to Ukraine, and every year they can supply weapons worth 15-20 billion dollars without any damage to the United States

        According to Razmik, in this case Russia can respond in the same way (by placing missiles in Iran or Venezuela), or asymmetrically (which is even more painful for the United States). And where will such a path lead? Who needs this? States do not need this, nor do we. Here on this Krajina American lethal weapons can not be seen as their ears yes
        1. razmik72
          razmik72 4 July 2016 11: 06
          -1
          Quote: GSH-18
          Quote: razmik72
          I don’t understand why they don’t deliver lethal weapons to Ukraine, and every year they can supply weapons worth 15-20 billion dollars without any damage to the United States

          According to Razmik, in this case Russia can respond in the same way (by placing missiles in Iran or Venezuela), or asymmetrically (which is even more painful for the United States). And where will such a path lead? Who needs this? States do not need this, nor do we. Here on this Krajina American lethal weapons can not be seen as their ears yes

          Well, Russia will supply weapons to the same Iran or Venezuela, so what? Well, they will not attack the United States, but Ukraine, with a fairly substantial accumulation of weapons, will climb into the same Crimea, I have no doubt about it. And what will Venezuela do, where the economy is practically collapsing before our eyes? Will declare war on the States and go to give up? laughing .
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 4 July 2016 12: 30
            0
            Quote: razmik72
            Well, Russia will supply weapons to the same Iran or Venezuela, so what? Well, they will not attack the United States, but Ukraine, with a fairly substantial accumulation of weapons, will climb into the same Crimea, I have no doubt about it. And what will Venezuela do, where the economy is practically collapsing before our eyes? Will declare war on the States and go to give up? laughing .

            Razmik, good afternoon!
            I will not recognize you! How have you earned so many minuses lately ??belay Something is somehow unusual!
            1. razmik72
              razmik72 4 July 2016 12: 55
              0
              Quote: Mikado
              Quote: razmik72
              Well, Russia will supply weapons to the same Iran or Venezuela, so what? Well, they will not attack the United States, but Ukraine, with a fairly substantial accumulation of weapons, will climb into the same Crimea, I have no doubt about it. And what will Venezuela do, where the economy is practically collapsing before our eyes? Will declare war on the States and go to give up? laughing .

              Razmik, good afternoon!
              I will not recognize you! How have you earned so many minuses lately ??belay Something is somehow unusual!

              I "defended" the monument to Garegin Nzhdeh, recently erected in Yerevan. On this occasion, the press secretary of your Russian Foreign Ministry, Zakharova, expressed concern, so I explained to the members of the forum that Zakharova should have expressed concern to Medinsky and Ivanov, who opened a monument to Mannerheim in St. Petersburg, and we The monument to Nzhdeh was opened at home, on their land. While the trial and the case, they were demoted from the lieutenant colonels. smile
              1. Mikado
                Mikado 4 July 2016 13: 45
                +3
                Quote: razmik72
                I "defended" the monument to Garegin Nzhdeh, recently erected in Yerevan. On this occasion, the press secretary of your Russian Foreign Ministry, Zakharova, expressed concern, so I explained to the members of the forum that Zakharova should have expressed concern to Medinsky and Ivanov, who opened a monument to Mannerheim in St. Petersburg, and we The monument to Nzhdeh was opened at home, on their land. While the trial and the case, they were demoted from the lieutenant colonels. smile

                Oh, you shouldn't have taken part in such discussions at all .. In this case, as a Russian, I would also be on Zakharova's side. We live in sovereign countries, and each country has its own heroes, so what is it? Even with the Israelis, there had been constant abuse once a week; we look at Syria from one angle, they from another, Syria is their enemy. Here, it seems to me, in all these monuments and plaques, the main thing is not to play with nationalism and "rewriting history". We also used to laugh at some of the inhabitants of Ukraine that Mazepa and Bandera were chosen as symbols. We thought they were jumping - so let them jump, you fools, and how it turned out! And about Mannerheim I absolutely agree with you! Moreover, all those who minus you will agree with you! yes
                You know, if we are sitting on the same site and chatting, even if sometimes our positions do not coincide - this is wonderful! I wish you a speedy recovery! yes
          2. GSH-18
            GSH-18 4 July 2016 13: 55
            0
            Quote: razmik72
            Well, Russia will supply weapons to the same Iran or Venezuela, so what? They won’t attack the USA

            Do not attack, it's worse! The influence of the states will be replaced by the influence of Iran in the region, which is very important for the striped. And about Venezuela, and even worse. Right at the side of the exceptional, they really do not like this.
            Quote: razmik72
            Will declare war on the States and go to give up? laughing

            I gave Venezuela as an example. There are plenty of options. A bunch of South and North American states do not organically digest "light elves" who poke their noses everywhere and everywhere and rush with their "democracy" with the smell of oil.
  3. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 4 July 2016 09: 32
    +7
    We offer servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who disagree with the policies pursued by the authorities of Kiev to go over to the side of the republic

    would not work with this new "Trojan horse"
  4. Andrey K
    Andrey K 4 July 2016 09: 33
    +13
    We suggest that the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who disagree with the policies pursued by the Kiev authorities, go over to the side of the republic.

    I respect Basurin. Really special. He speaks clearly, concisely, clearly.
    But the proposal to go over to the side of the LDNR is more for the ear of the "Square" than for use in practice.
    Few of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, let alone the National Battles, will go to stand under the banner of the LPR.
    It must be understood that PotRoshenko and Co., have smeared the blood of all. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are direct participants in the killings of civilians in the Donbass, it makes no sense to say anything at all about fascist marauders from national battalions.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 4 July 2016 09: 34
    +2
    Meanwhile, according to Poroshenko’s advisor, Vladimir Gorbulin, the current situation in the Donbass is reminiscent of “the calm before the storm.”


    The initiator of these storms BIDEN sat in the US State Department ...
    every time some kind of Kiev maydanuty visits WASHINGTON, hostilities begin in DONBASS.

    You can already predict their start on these visits. (As well as on all kinds of summits and gatherings in NATO ... the same is true here).
  6. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 4 July 2016 09: 35
    +2
    Meanwhile, according to Poroshenko’s advisor, Vladimir Gorbulin, the current situation in the Donbass is reminiscent of “the calm before the storm.”
    - There are two kinds of fools: some do not understand what everyone is obliged to understand; others understand what no one should understand.
    In short: - "I always remained myself. So I lived like a fool!" :)))
  7. Time
    Time 4 July 2016 09: 45
    -24%
    And the carts laden in the direction of Donetsk and Lugansk loaded with a pile of belongings in one or two hairs. And it came to Basurin Happily ...
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 4 July 2016 09: 54
      +4
      1 time do not pee - rast angry
      1. Mikado
        Mikado 4 July 2016 10: 25
        +1
        Quote: Yak-3P
        1 time do not pee - rast angry

        not Elton John laughing
  8. Evil 55
    Evil 55 4 July 2016 09: 48
    0
    Gorbu-lin- with such a surname can only play in cartoons and tell tales like this to mattress children and senators ..
  9. ML-334
    ML-334 4 July 2016 09: 52
    0
    I think that the bulk of these are men who have this is the only way to feed their families, and this mass does not need any excesses, and therefore there are shelling between the "Nazis" and the VSU. Under the banner of the LDNR, they certainly will not go and against the junta they can turn their weapons. I'm sure not all of them were blown away.
  10. potapych
    potapych 4 July 2016 09: 53
    +12
    Slavs! stop watering each other.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 4 July 2016 12: 20
      +1
      Slavs! stop watering each other. ,,
      are you telling biden or valtsman.
  11. sgr291158
    sgr291158 4 July 2016 09: 56
    +4
    I think more than a dozen would go over, but then what will happen to their relatives is the question.
    1. VSZMK
      VSZMK 4 July 2016 10: 18
      +2
      When relatives move to Russia - you can move on.
  12. BOB044
    BOB044 4 July 2016 10: 15
    +5

    “Moreover, an alarming feeling of“ calm before the storm ”is being formed, especially given the activity that Russia continues to develop on the territory of the“ DPR / LPR ”, as well as Crimea (which many regularly forget). The prospect of large-scale military clashes is becoming more and more apparent on the horizon, ”he writes in his article for ZN.UA.
    Our Russian Crimea will never become the territory of Ukraine. So take care of your cottage 6 acres if you have them. And do not meddle with us in Russia, you will receive in full. And I don’t believe in the transition, APU from the inside can blow up the DNI and LC. They are selling. hi
  13. Wildfox
    Wildfox 4 July 2016 10: 24
    +5
    Quote: sgr291158
    I think more than a dozen would go over, but then what will happen to their relatives is the question.

    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: Lyton
    and relatives, relatives, welcome to the dungeons of the SBU.
    The dungeons of the SBU are not rubber - they do not transplant everyone. And besides, few ukrovermaht to this appeal Basurin respond. I doubt that even a few - who wanted to, have long been fighting on the side of the republics.

    What is the question? The site "peacemaker" will be with them. They will not think of imprisoning anyone, and the radicals will be busy and not block the courts - spoil the picture for the EU. If there are many solutions in Ukraine, the most rotten will be chosen.
  14. prior
    prior 4 July 2016 10: 29
    +3
    "You can't wash a black dog white."
    Armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the LDNR army, it's like migrants to Europe. You can get there, but integrate ..?
    Is it not better to deploy weapons against the Bandera-Maidan authorities.
    Sami shit themselves and clean!
  15. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 4 July 2016 10: 46
    +3
    Nobody needs defectors anywhere. 70 years ago, it ran into a whole ROA and other smaller divisions. Betrayed once, betrayed two, and it is not a matter of motivation (politics, head dictator, etc.). They always had a negative attitude on both sides.
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 4 July 2016 10: 50
    +5
    The offer is good for normal people,
    but not corrupt, maydanutnyh creatures.
  17. Chulman
    Chulman 4 July 2016 11: 22
    +1
    Quote: GSH-18
    DNR: the armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who disagree with the policies of Kiev, can go to the side of the republic

    This is the right move. Only mishandled need to be filtered.

    And it is right! First, the historical truth 24 hours a day, and only then hot tea and dry clothes !!!
  18. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 4 July 2016 11: 41
    +1
    It seems that LDNR is independent, since the junta is afraid of their accession to Ukraine as subjects of great autonomy. But the real owners of the junta have completely different plans - to teach Bandera the ability to fight, arm them and throw them at the militias in order to get rid of the seperatists completely. Merikans understand that their influence is falling in Ukraine and especially with chaos in the geysoyuz.
  19. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 4 July 2016 11: 48
    +1
    I’m all waiting for them to bend, but I can’t wait. Tenacious like cats. Mantra that hohlam pi .... I hear what year already.
    I remember a time when grandfathers and grandmothers were stopped with pitchforks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then the Armed Forces killed them, then they climbed into the republics, then fired at our territory. "Division" Gazprom promised them a "warm" winter, though later decided to supply gas as humanitarian aid. What are we waiting for?
  20. vector96
    vector96 4 July 2016 12: 57
    +4
    Armed Forces of Ukraine, disagreeing with the policy of Kiev

    They may of course be dissenting with the policy of Kiev, but they really want European lace panties.
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 4 July 2016 13: 30
    +1
    There will be no major fights before the US presidential election in autumn.
    Well, except for single attempts to break through ukrovermaht.
    But if Clintonsha is chosen, then it’s worth waiting for an attack
    directly against Russia.
  22. Shustov
    Shustov 4 July 2016 13: 53
    +3
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: Lyton
    and relatives, relatives, welcome to the dungeons of the SBU.
    The dungeons of the SBU are not rubber - they do not transplant everyone. And besides, few ukrovermaht to this appeal Basurin respond. I doubt that even a few - who wanted to, have long been fighting on the side of the republics.

    Dreamers !! Yes, they will simply be killed, this factor is holding back many men, he himself will go to serve and where to hide his family !? For example, I need to send a whole "camp" somewhere. The question is WHERE !!! ??????
    And then here it was said that men didn’t go, from Novosibirsk it is easier to come and fight than from Zaporozhye.
  23. ver_
    ver_ 5 July 2016 08: 09
    0
    Quote: cniza
    “We offer the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, those who disagree with the policy pursued by the Kiev authorities, to side with the republic. Our goal is peace in the Donbas! ”Said Basurin.


    Unless the United States gets out of there, there will be no peace in the Donbass, unfortunately.

    Ukraine has rooted traditions since antiquity: .. "we are a current of midges - we are waiting for feeding .." Whoever gives more, we will swear to that, then we will betray .. and .. all over again .. well, Jewry is very deeply rooted in this field of miracles - none the spells of Moses do not work on this field, but generate a new community - a fusion of Jewry and Slavism - Hochlism, however ..