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The Russian economy is predicted to start growing this year.

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Figuratively speaking, yesterday, almost all the leading foreign economists, trying to echo the Nobel Peace Prize laureate, declared that the Russian economy was torn to pieces. Yesterday, international rating agencies wondered when, before lunch or after lunch, to lower Russia's credit rating to the default garbage-level. And suddenly a rather unexpected change of "partner" rhetoric. From the latest publications of Western economists, as well as rating and credit agencies, it turns out that now these “partners” are ready to recognize the fact of certain positive changes in the Russian economic environment.

The Russian economy is predicted to start growing this year.


It would, of course, be much better and more interesting for us if we (citizens of the Russian Federation) would learn about positive shifts in the economic situation in the country not from reports of various specialists of international rating agencies, but from our own wallets. However, it is impossible to ignore the statements of "partners". Well, at least just to compare their same statements a year ago with the statements of today's days.
So, what are the Western “friends” who are now letting go with the rhetoric regarding the financial and economic situation in Russia?

The first thing that drew attention was the information from the next review of the international rating agency Fitch. Just recently, in a published report, it was suggested that the Russian economy will move to growth by the end of this year. Recall that earlier the same experts predicted in 2016 and the first half of 2017 the decline in Russian GDP. In order to argue their changing opinion, Fitch said that "quite high oil prices" play in favor of Russia. Interestingly, since when in the rating structure, a barrel of "black gold", trading at the level of 50 dollars, began to be considered "quite expensive." Apparently, Fitch decided to know everything in comparison, and therefore 50 dollars per barrel in comparison with 34 dollars for the same volume prudently called the "high price." Now it’s scary to imagine what the Fitch forecast for the Russian economy would be if the oil price hypothetically again exceeds 100 dollars per barrel ...

The same rating agency said that the stabilization in the Russian economy is also observed against the background of the growth of the ruble against the dollar and the euro. Thus, over the past few days, the ruble has increased by approximately 5-6% to these two currencies, which allowed large Russian banks to increase their business and population lending portfolios. The recent decrease in the key rate by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation - to 10,5% (from June 14) also played its role.
From the Fitch report on the banking system of the Russian Federation:

The weighted average capital ratios for banks in April improved slightly by 10-20 bp due to the fact that the 5-percent increase in the ruble exchange rate caused the risk-weighted currency assets to deflate. Indicators of basic capital (Н1.1) and fixed capital (Н1.2) increased by 23 bp respectively, to 8,3% (minimum 4,5%), and 8,6% (minimum 6%), and the total capital ratio (Н1.0) increased by 12 bp up to 12,6%. According to our estimates, the current capital stock (...) of 45 banks' sample (...) is sufficient to cover potential credit losses (..).

Against this background, the publication of the Analytical Credit Rating Agency (ACRA) also attracts attention. The ACRA report says that the Russian economy without the usual incentives for growth (first of all, the price of oil is discussed, which ACRA, unlike Fitch, does not seem “high enough”) shows sustainability. And, apparently, by no means the stability that on the sea surface after the storm and shipwreck show shipwrecks ... If you believe ACRA specialists, then the economy of the Russian Federation to 2020 will be in constant growth, as well as labor productivity. Moreover, ACRA believes in the growth of the Russian economy in the coming 4 of the year, despite its own oil price forecast up to the same 2020 of the year at the level of 39-45 dollars per barrel (for the Russian brand Urals).

At the same time, ACRA, like some other organizations, is struggling to predict demographic problems in Russia. We have a decline in GDP - we predicted demographic problems, now it seems that they themselves are talking about trends in GDP growth - and again they predict demographic problems. Apparently, Russian demography is a sore point for individual experts who sleep and see Russia with a population of no more than 50 million people ...
What does domestic economic reporting say? If we compare it with the statements of the same Fitch for Russian banks, then in general we can speak of a rare unanimity. So in reporting RA "Expert" it is said that from June 2015 to June 2016 a number of large Russian banks significantly increased its own capitalization. And let it be solely about the rubles, but so it seems like the banks primarily serve the population of the Russian Federation, making ruble settlements.

So, Sberbank for the mentioned period grew by 10,81%, VTB Bank - by as much as 43,4%. Most of all, Rosselkhozbank increased its ruble capitalization by almost 60%. So much of the active growth of the capitalization of the same “Rosselkhozbank” is associated both with measures of state financial support and with a fairly positive state of affairs in domestic agriculture. If you believe the reporting, then against the background of the general economic downturn in 2015, the agriculture of the Russian Federation showed a good growth - approximately in 3,3%. The loan portfolio for the agrarian sector of the Russian Federation issued by Rosselkhozbank increased.
From the reporting itself RSHB for 1 quarter 2016 of the year:

In the first quarter of 2016, against the background of a gradual stabilization of the economic situation and the situation on the financial market, the Bank ensured an increase in the volume of lending and attracting customer funds.

The Bank's loan portfolio for 1 quarter 2016 of the year increased by 16,6 billion rubles (+ 1%) and amounted to 1,821 trillion rubles before deducting reserves. Loans to legal entities increased by 10,5 billion rubles (+ 0,7%) and amounted to 1,519 trillion rubles, to individuals - by 6 billion rubles (+ 2%) - to 302,9 billion rubles.

Bank assets grew over 1 quarter 2016 of the year by 4,4% (by 102,7 billion rubles) and amounted to 2,451 trillion rubles.

The capital adequacy ratio of the Bank H1 is maintained at a level that provides the necessary financial stability and prospective development of the Bank. Its value on 01.04.2016 was 16,4%
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And still, it would be desirable that such benevolent domestic reporting and equally gracious forecasts of the Russian Federation’s GDP on the part of foreign “partners” should be poured into a real blessing for ordinary Russians. Otherwise, people are still distinguished from feeding themselves with products from the refrigerator by feeding figures from the Internet ...
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 4 July 2016 07: 41
    +20
    You won’t be full of numbers ...
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 4 July 2016 07: 55
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      You won’t be full of numbers ...

      Well then you can say, "My wallet is half full. Or is it half empty?" winked
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 4 July 2016 08: 17
        +1
        The main thing that people would believe! smile
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 4 July 2016 08: 24
          +4
          Quote: Igor39
          The main thing that people would believe!

          Believe what? While they believe their wallet.
          1. Igor39
            Igor39 4 July 2016 08: 38
            +2
            Well, I say when they hang noodles on the ears, the main thing is that people would believe laughing
            1. Asadullah
              Asadullah 4 July 2016 18: 31
              +7
              Well, I say when they hang noodles on the ears, the main thing is that people would believe


              What kind of people and what did you believe? Retired Klava, from Glazov, in macroeconomic analyzes and forecasts? What will they give her? Yes, if they are twice as high and forty times more real - nothing. Blue collar from the office? But his income consists of salary and premium interest on sales. Chinese out of a tent in the market? So he will stockpile non-selling goods more expensively on a rented apartment and his relatives from Yiwu will send similar cheaper, from cheap materials. What is the point? The fact that the numbers of macroeconomic indicators are reflected in large state projects, but very few in poor people dependent on the state. But on citizens whose income is in his own hands, nothing. For his capital, this is the energy that just raises these numbers of macroeconomics. The former Soviet man has a hunchback of the habit of waiting for preferences from the state, and an enterprising person in the West, and in the East, wants the state to not intervene, or interfere as little as possible in its activities. And if something can raise the Russian economy to the world level, then this is the activity of healthy and enterprising citizens.

              The agricultural sector showed how little it is necessary, so that it would not be the most fertile land on the planet, that would give the result access to the highest world indicators. Who is our friend of all agronomists, Putin, Medvedev? No, these were people who love the earth and cannot imagine themselves without it. They were simply given freedom and supported. Bow to them. Wherever such people appear, everything starts spinning and moving. The most interesting thing is that there are not many of them, sometimes even one is enough for the enterprise to turn it into a successful one, and then into an advanced one.

              Sad commentators remind me of a gang of pioneers who found an old kerosene lamp in the garbage. After wiping calluses on their palms in turn, they begin to kick her with frenzy, cursing the genie. Guys, I want to say, there are no genies! And also pioneers .....
              1. Nick
                Nick 4 July 2016 23: 02
                0
                Quote: Asadullah
                The agricultural sector showed how little it is necessary, so that it would not be the most fertile land on the planet, that would give the result access to the highest world indicators.

                Yes, those are full! The south of Russia has always been developed in agricultural terms. Climate and soil are binding. And in the Non-Black Earth region in the village, economic life is barely warming, millions of hectares are overgrown with birch no longer weeds. I know by hearsay how our banks beat investors with interesting, well-developed projects, despite the existing collateral base, an experienced team of specialists, and so on.
                And first of all, the same "peasant benefactor" of Rosselkhozbank is playing football, and the Sberbank is there too.
                This is not banks, but natural moneylenders, old woman mortgagors in kind, with huge interest rates, and the desire for 200% guarantee of repayment of the loan amount, with the same huge interest on it. Raskolnikovs on their heads ...
        2. Blondy
          Blondy 4 July 2016 09: 19
          +1
          Quote: Igor39
          The main thing that people would believe!

          I, of course, believed, but did not catch the difference.
          1. atalef
            atalef 4 July 2016 12: 56
            0
            Quote: Igor39
            I say when I hang noodles on my ears

            Quote: parusnik
            You won’t be full of numbers ...


            Quote: Blondy
            I, of course, believed, but did not catch the difference.

            wink
      2. Buffet
        Buffet 4 July 2016 15: 55
        0
        It will mean you are a pessimist or an optimist laughing
      3. Starik72
        Starik72 4 July 2016 22: 23
        +1
        Alexander. May I continue your comment? Bureaucrats-managers and oligarchs "eat" meat, and rest in the Maldives and the Canaries, and we ordinary people eat cabbage, it turns out that together we "eat" stuffed cabbage and rest in Sochi and Gagra.
    2. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 4 July 2016 08: 22
      +8
      Yes, and our rulers are getting closer to China on the forum, nothing good is China in the economic sphere cooperates with those who are mainly profitable with Europe, because on the contrary we are moving away, I think this is a throw-up that our economy will rise before the United Russia election, mountains will promise you after the elections so many laws will be introduced that everyone will gasp but it will be postural - they will say you voted for us and who will be against it, the young men in Moscow roll out videos, see what structures kings of roads and arbiters grow
    3. SSR
      SSR 4 July 2016 08: 34
      +5
      Quote: parusnik
      You won’t be full of numbers ...

      Giant Heinkel transfers production from Estonia to St. Petersburg, Adidas transfers some cauliflower 3.54 euros per kg to Russia from the Baltic countries at our store 75 rubles. By historical and economic standards, little time has passed, we personally have orders from Germany, Slovenia and African countries.
      1. Hon
        Hon 4 July 2016 08: 51
        +3
        a couple of new factories, for the domestic market this is good, but against the backdrop of a general economic decline, it fades.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 4 July 2016 09: 26
          -2
          Quote: Hon
          a couple of new factories, for the domestic market this is good but against the background of a general economic decline,

          - a chicken pecking a grain ... do you know the sequel? wink
          1. atalef
            atalef 4 July 2016 12: 58
            -2
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Quote: Hon
            a couple of new factories, for the domestic market this is good but against the background of a general economic decline,

            - a chicken pecking a grain ... do you know the continuation? wink

            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 4 July 2016 13: 12
              +11
              Alexander hi

              For the placement of this Bayan of the Canadian Bearded (I’m not talking about the dude from the video, this is a FIDO-shny term yet), we should already start banning ...

              - song - wretched
              - people do not know how to play absolutely, I play better
              - no voice, no special hearing

              Like, "on the topic of the day"? And this is how to say ...

              From 1.30 we listen carefully:

              - (pensioner) They promised to carry out indexation, where is this indexation?
              - (Medvedev) She is nowhere to be found. She was not accepted at all. Just no money. Find the money - do the indexing. You stay here, all the best, good mood.




              Good Ukrainians, whose video is so popular among the people, slightly ... he ... podshamanil.

              Little rascals, panimaish laughing
              1. Vasya_kuvalesov
                Vasya_kuvalesov 4 July 2016 15: 30
                -8
                if not a secret, how much kremlebotam pay? I'd settle too
                1. razmik72
                  razmik72 4 July 2016 17: 04
                  -2
                  Quote: Vasya_kuvalesov
                  if not a secret, how much kremlebotam pay? I'd settle too

                  I also had reasonable suspicions that the "comrade" Cat Man Null (hereinafter Pallas' cat) is not completely free, so to speak, leaves dozens of comments on VO in defense of the course of the party and government. laughing .
                  1. Alibekulu
                    Alibekulu 4 July 2016 17: 37
                    -5
                    Quote: Vasya_kuvalesov
                    if not a secret, how much kremlebotam pay? I'd settle too
                    .
                    Quote: razmik72
                    I also had reasonable suspicions that the "comrade" Cat Man Null (hereinafter Pallas' cat) is not completely free, so to speak, leaves dozens of comments on VO in defense of the course of the party and government.

                    "In the queue, bitches children, in the queue" (c) am .
                    Posons, as if on the subject of employment, I was with him, about half a year ago I was interested .. repeat
                  2. Stas157
                    Stas157 4 July 2016 17: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: razmik72
                    I also had reasonable suspicions that the "comrade" Cat Man Null (hereinafter Pallas' cat) is not completely free, so to speak, leaves dozens of comments on VO in defense of the course of the party and government.

                    And, Alexander Romanov, too! I would be glad to make a mistake if this is not so, but such thoughts have long arisen.
                  3. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 4 July 2016 19: 04
                    +5
                    Quote: razmik72
                    I also had reasonable suspicions that the "comrade" Cat Man Null (hereinafter Pallas' cat) is not completely free, so to speak, leaves dozens of comments on VO in defense of the course of the party and government.

                    And YOU try to beat him with arguments and facts. Well, like Uncle Joe with graphics. fellow I don’t have enough education. crying
                    1. Stas157
                      Stas157 5 July 2016 14: 01
                      +2
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      And YOU try to beat him with arguments and facts.

                      Tried it! Useless! It is not curable.
                  4. D. Dan
                    D. Dan 4 July 2016 20: 58
                    0
                    I also want a buck for kament and I share. Rest does not give one question. And how much is the homeland?
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 4 July 2016 21: 06
                      +7
                      Quote: D. Dan
                      Rest does not give one question. And how much is the homeland?

                      And how much you yourself are worth, so much is your homeland.
                      1. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 July 2016 21: 17
                        +4
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        And how much you yourself cost, so much does your homeland cost

                        - Plusan, perhaps. Briefly and to the point

                        And what about

                        Quote: razmik72
                        I also had reasonable suspicions that the "comrade" Cat Man Null (hereinafter Pallas' cat) is not completely free, so to speak, leaves dozens of comments on VO in defense of the course of the party and government

                        Everyone remembers the joke about the competition for those who care? Duc, here, from there just: "And I do not care what you thought" laughing

                        - Comments - solely from boredom, work is sought slowly, summer, no one needs anybody. Dead Season
                        - there wouldn’t be a couple of small jobs - long ago the horses would have moved nafig
                        - if anyone knows where a good Axi programmer is needed (in Moscow, I definitely won’t go from the region and to Peter Omsk and other things. If only through a remote site, I can do that too) - give me a tip, I'll get it - your first half-salaries ( salary there .. big)

                        That's something like request
                2. Asadullah
                  Asadullah 4 July 2016 18: 41
                  +3
                  if not a secret, how much kremlebotam pay? I'd settle too


                  Go deep into the annals of folk wisdom that says, a fool is beaten in the church ..... do not get settled, they will kill .....
            2. Yars
              Yars 4 July 2016 16: 06
              +2
              Slepakov such a corrupt as Makarevich and Shnurov, all act in favor of the western customer!
              1. Cube123
                Cube123 4 July 2016 16: 58
                +1
                Quote: YARS
                Slepakov such a corrupt as Makarevich and Shnurov, all act in favor of the western customer!

                When looking at Slepakov, for some reason I always recall the epigram of Valentin Gaft, written, however, by Zinovy ​​Vysokovsky:
                "When paths like you are open,
                The ranks of anti-Semites are growing. "

                Now there is another option:
                "And for people like you, the paths are open,
                The anti-Semitic crowd is growing, growing. "
                http://lib.ru/ANEKDOTY/gaft.txt
                1. Cube123
                  Cube123 4 July 2016 17: 15
                  +3
                  It is possible that this is Huberman:
                  “When people like you are open,
                  Anti-Semites are bred on earth ”
                  I. Huberman

                  http://www.anekdot.ru/id/717061/
      2. Asadullah
        Asadullah 4 July 2016 18: 38
        0
        Adidas transfers some production to Russia


        The cost of a pair of the most expensive Adidas shoe model is $ 3,14. Memorized as a mathematical unit. How much is she in stores?
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 July 2016 10: 07
      +5
      You will be full only of the fruits of your work.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 4 July 2016 10: 14
        +2
        By the way, yesterday I read that AK 12 is being adopted by the army and AEK is being armed with special forces
        https://ok.ru/voennoprom/topic/65708887818414
      2. Pavel1
        Pavel1 4 July 2016 12: 22
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        You will be full only of the fruits of your work.


        Well, why are you offering someone else's planes to buy?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 July 2016 14: 06
          -2
          Until we have ours, we’ll have to buy foreign ones - you won’t get anywhere from that, no companies will wait until they appear, airplanes are needed now.
          1. D. Dan
            D. Dan 4 July 2016 21: 01
            +1
            Unfortunately this is the case. So it was at the dawn of the USSR.
    5. Pavel1
      Pavel1 4 July 2016 12: 17
      0
      but not in the future, but in 20g we have everything equated to 20g ...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 July 2016 14: 07
        0
        Everything will be with us during the 20s.
    6. siberalt
      siberalt 4 July 2016 17: 17
      0
      Let's see what they will prophesy when the elections to the State Duma are held. As soon as they sit in their places "and again sing to oblivion"? laughing
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 July 2016 19: 33
        0
        Already now we can confidently prophesy that United Russia, in future elections, will occupy from 50 to 65 percent of the seats in the State Duma.
    7. Awaz
      Awaz 4 July 2016 21: 17
      +1
      it’s not just the numbers. All the arguments of these rating offices that we have just read indicate that they do not understand nifiga in the economy and build forecasts from the principle: tomorrow will be the same as what happens today. There was a fall - they drove the topic of the fall, there was a positive dynamic - they sing about it, laying out idle arguments that are completely unconnected with reality. and each comes up with its own version.
      When there was a pointer from the top to say that Russia was falling apart, they sang it, but seeing that it didn't work out, it just becomes impossible to continue singing the old song, because the rest of the market sees the situation and starts acting without looking back at these los. Therefore, they are now forced to pick up a new wave, so that they would at least somehow be "respected" or they may start to ignore when they are completely screwed up.
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 4 July 2016 07: 42
    +10
    It's strange, like I'm in. And the feeling that on the site of some Echo or MK. And weapons and the economy and secular gossip. Why is it here?
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 4 July 2016 08: 20
      +16
      Andrey K hi Good morning colleague!
      It's strange, like I'm in. And the feeling that on the site of some Echo or MK. And weapons and the economy and secular gossip. Why is it here?

      Because modern warfare has a "hybrid" name for a reason. Economics (social security of citizens) in the modern world are on a par with weapons.
      In countries where the economy is abandoned for the sake of only the army (North Korea). Ideology takes the place of social protection and material wealth. In modern Russia it is difficult (in diplomatic language) to explain to ordinary citizens why they should protect fellow citizens rich in loot. Children whose homeland is not protected. And the "exploits" of the latter, only in YouTube to lay out the races on expensive cars.
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 4 July 2016 09: 01
        +9
        I welcome you Sergey hi
        It is likely, even definitely, that you are right.
        But still - if you are talking about a "hybrid" war, then the VO site should "take a hit" in its segment, and not be scattered in all directions.
        I’m talking about this hi
        1. Evgenijus
          Evgenijus 4 July 2016 10: 38
          +3
          Allow me to join your opinion. I have been here quite recently, and the variety of the site's themes does not at all fit into its name. It's too early for me to criticize anyone, especially the editors of this internet resource. But still ... Maybe a name like "Military-Political Review" will suit the site?
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 4 July 2016 23: 18
            0
            If politics is a reflection of the economy, then war is the last argument of politics. Somehow, everything is very interconnected. hi
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 4 July 2016 19: 19
          +2
          Quote: Andrey K
          The VO site should "take a hit" in its segment, and not be sprayed in all directions.

          And the Arctic fox is sneaking up on the side from which they did not wait. Like in WWI. I do not agree with you.
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 4 July 2016 15: 10
        +5
        Observer

        You would not be too lazy to see on what grounds a conclusion was made about economic growth.

        Since when has revenue growth in the financial sector been economic growth? Most likely the opposite.

        Jars are on the top food chain. If there is income in the financial sector, this does not mean economic growth at all. Most likely about the impoverishment of that society called the people.

        I understand when the bank interest is very debt was near zero. And the economy grew and the bank interest cannot rise above unity.

        This is growth. And the article describes the elements of robbery.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 4 July 2016 16: 37
          +1
          Quote: gladcu2
          Since when has revenue growth in the financial sector been economic growth? Most likely the opposite.

          Jars are on the top food chain. If there is income in the financial sector, this does not mean economic growth at all. Most likely about the impoverishment of that society called the people.

          I expected the heading to see numbers, preferably with examples of enterprises that would show an increase in industrial production, new, competitive products manufactured by us, etc., and here again the price of oil, and the capitalization of banks - and what is the growth from such an article can be believed negative
        2. Asadullah
          Asadullah 4 July 2016 19: 16
          0
          If there is income in the financial sector, this does not mean economic growth at all. Most likely about the impoverishment of that society called the people.


          smile And what does this mean, that people sold the latter and gave everything to the bank? And what do you think is not robbery? Print money and give out to the population? By the way, second-tier banks earn more by re-accrediting to third banks. This is the main income of half of the banking sector. It is she who supports the global system of dominance of US money. That is, if you have influence and connections, and the ability to get money at 0,5% per annum, you can comfortably live lending it to other large banks at 1% and under insurance guarantees. Bank, this is an elementary node of the mechanism of the economy, the coordinated work of which gives an overall picture of the economy. It (the mechanism), turns the economy either fast or weakly, that’s not the point, the main thing is that it would be agreed. All crises over the past 20 years are tied to the inconsistency of the work of this mechanism. When the profitability from banking communications and money manipulations exceeded the profitability of production, that is, what they were supposed to serve. It is necessary to be interested in the subject of indignation, then maybe disturbances will be less. wink
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 4 July 2016 21: 04
            0
            Asadullah

            And the crisis of capitalism lies precisely in this when the profitability of the banking sector is higher than that of the manufacturer.
      3. Asadullah
        Asadullah 4 July 2016 18: 58
        0
        In modern Russia it is difficult (in a diplomatic language) to explain to ordinary citizens why they should protect fellow citizens who are rich in loot. Children who do not protect their homeland


        I understand your emotions, but there is a concept of a cultural environment. It is like a field with wheat, each spikelet does not interfere with the growth of the neighboring one, they support each other's stems, not allowing the wind, hail, rain to break. With their mass, they retain moisture in the soil under drought. There are weeds among this field, but this does not affect the overall picture, the main thing is that there are not many of them. From that "ordinary citizen", there is no need to explain whom he protects. These are the words of my friend, Tolya Lebed, the kingdom of heaven to him ....- C'mon, what a state! State over - the guys are standing. In order not to bring joy to the enemy, it is necessary to have time to teach them. There is no difficulty in catching those who have just arrived - in ambush, in the same battle. I’m fighting for them. For these guys here, so as not to mumble when they cut their throats. Time to teach. Well, for the people. For grannies, for homeless people for the same, so as not to mock them. You don’t think about yourself. You think about those who are nearby, then normal work turns out. Each has his own battle in life, someone he already had, someone else to come. Let them betray anyone at the top - at least for us, even for ourselves, at least for our relatives, the main task for us is to fulfill our mission and not to see who has sold and betrayed anyone there. And there, let at least blacks for president, at least someone.
    2. ando_bor
      ando_bor 4 July 2016 21: 36
      0
      The information war looks like this, it’s a part, state-owned mercenaries work on all the less popular resources, commentators on the lower levels, these are mainly Ukrainians, usually young people, they are clearly visible, although they are dull, but very cheap, they messed up the whole network . To destroy, first of all, real problems are used, Ukrainians jumped against real crooks and thieves.
  3. cobalt
    cobalt 4 July 2016 07: 43
    +11
    Do you want economic growth, cheaper loans must be made for real agricultural producers and industrial enterprises, cash flows should go in the economy, and not bankers are in the bosom.
    1. 13 warrior
      13 warrior 4 July 2016 08: 08
      +11
      I understand that the development of the economy is impossible without the banking sector, but it seems that our banks are called upon to "legally take money from the population" and small and medium-sized businesses, especially in agriculture.
      The same Sberbank is a spider, sucking blood ... Everything and the whole network are entangled, and the efficiency is low. Low for the people, I mean.
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 4 July 2016 08: 36
      +1
      Quote: cobalt
      Do you want economic growth, cheaper loans must be made for real agricultural producers and industrial enterprises, cash flows should go in the economy, and not bankers are in the bosom.

      As far as I remember, some loans are given at meager interest. Honestly, I don’t want to look, but I heard about this. Type on s \ x or something producing.
      1. not main
        not main 4 July 2016 23: 28
        -1
        Quote: Muvka
        As far as I remember, some loans are given at meager interest. Honestly, I don’t want to look, but I heard about this. Type on s \ x or something producing.

        This type of 19,75% of the Savings Bank is a tiny percentage?
    3. Tsoy
      Tsoy 4 July 2016 10: 15
      +6
      Quote: cobalt
      Want to grow the economy, you need to make loans cheaper


      Yesterday, only the talking head from the TV claimed that you can not make loans cheap. Whether you see this will lead to uncontrollable inflation (as if someone is now controlling it) and loss of control over the economic system. True, he could not explain why in Europe Russian banks give loans at 4 percent, and in his country at least 17-20%.
      1. GYGOLA
        GYGOLA 4 July 2016 10: 58
        0
        And what is there to explain, to give a pure fat loan on loan at 4% or under 19%, it’s not necessary to explain it, but to confess.
      2. Izotovp
        Izotovp 4 July 2016 14: 31
        0
        Because in Europe he is one of the banks that take money from the ECB at 0-0,05% and there is their own competition, but here he gives the same money, taken either from the ECB and or in the USA, at his own interest to commercial banks, those wind up their interest, and that is the interest rate on loans that is (plus all kinds of insurance in it and "Abessinian taxes"). Against this background, the Central Bank makes a profit in the form of a double rate, because it gives a loan at the same commercial interest and only direct loans, which the government nicely, lordly gives to various enterprises, show what this rate could be for everyone.
        1. Tsoy
          Tsoy 4 July 2016 15: 53
          0
          Quote: Izotovp
          The Central Bank on this background makes a profit in the form of a double rate,


          This is one of the main problems of the modern economy of the Russian Federation. The number of speculators is beyond all reasonable limits. Who worked in the trade knows, and in any field. As a rule, there is a 1-2 supplier, and dozens of outbursts who wind up their own percentage. In the end, a wrap-up product arrives many times more than the initial price.
          1. vpm
            vpm 4 July 2016 16: 16
            +1
            This is just a consequence of the relatively high cost of borrowed capital for the real sector. At rates higher than 15%, it is difficult, if at all possible, to start some kind of long-term business, I generally keep quiet about agriculture, there you can grow out in one year with an unsuccessful harvest - it has long been said not by us: “There are three ways to go broke: the fastest - horse racing, the most pleasant is women, and the most reliable is agriculture. " And speculative transactions are just fine with a relatively high cost of money.
    4. Observer2014
      Observer2014 4 July 2016 12: 28
      +2
      cobalt hi RU Today, 07:43
      Do you want economic growth, cheaper loans must be made for real agricultural producers and industrial enterprises, cash flows should go in the economy, and not bankers are in the bosom.


      I agree completely! All the artificial containment of the Russian economy is the lack of cheap loans !!!!!!
  4. aba
    aba 4 July 2016 07: 46
    +8
    if we (the citizens of the Russian Federation) would learn about positive changes in the economic situation in the country not from reports of various specialists of international rating offices, but from our own wallets.

    This is the main idea of ​​the article, the rest is water on the ears of our "effective management". And we live with them in different, parallel worlds.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 4 July 2016 07: 46
    +4
    Nevertheless, I would like for such a benevolent domestic reporting and no less benevolent forecasts for the GDP of the Russian Federation from the side of foreign “partners” to translate into a real good for ordinary Russians.


    That's the whole problem ...

    as one character in KREMLIN said ... there is no money but you are holding on there.


    Against this background, the statement of another character looks in contrast ...

    - The first thing I wanted to say: we have a lot of money! There are a lot of them, - said the head of the corporation. - That is why we had the opportunity not only to “turn over” big money, but also to invest it in our long-term strategy! She completely solved all the problems, including the problem of potential financial failure. Accordingly, we have a second prize. This will not be instantaneous, but we will try to answer for the bazaar.


    Strange all this ... it seems that ordinary people are bred like suckers.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 4 July 2016 07: 55
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Strange all this ... it seems that ordinary people are bred like suckers.

      The way it is! Remember, a few years ago the noise in the press regarding the "end of the world". They seemed to make some noise and ... dispersed. But no! One part of Russians lost 30 billion dollars at this "end", while the other gained them. They even sold special sets for the end of the world - with a set of Chinese broadcaster at wholesale retail prices. And just - information in the media! And now, who knows what information schemes are designed so that some lose and others ... gain!
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 4 July 2016 08: 41
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        They even sold special kits for the end of the world - with a set of Chinese shirotreb at a wholesale price at retail

        - You managed to buy, I hope? laughing
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 4 July 2016 08: 43
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        One part of Russians lost 30 billion dollars at this "end", while the other gained them.



        The law of conservation, however ... Somewhere disappeared, somewhere it arrived ...

        PS And sets for the end of the world ... Well, dur.ara.-buyers have always been, are and will be ... And Ostap Bender will always have a gesheft on them ...
      3. Tsoy
        Tsoy 4 July 2016 12: 07
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        special sets for the end of the world


        In Irkutsk, they also sold ... rope and soap inside ...
    2. Leto
      Leto 4 July 2016 08: 40
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Strange all this ... it seems that ordinary people are bred like suckers.

      So if they get divorced, then who is to blame?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 4 July 2016 08: 41
        +2
        So if they get divorced, then who is to blame?


        smile Suckers of course.

        But if you look from the other side, it becomes not at all funny ...
        because it suffers first of all unprotected
        part of the population of RUSSIA ... old people, children, people with disabilities, etc.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 4 July 2016 09: 32
          -4
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          After all, it is primarily the unprotected part of the population of RUSSIA that suffers ... old people, children, people with disabilities

          - do not understand, their What - deliberately fool?
          - and in general - how can one take money from a child when he does not have it? Just by age?
          - and what is "etc." - that's oh-oh-very interesting yes
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 4 July 2016 12: 52
            0
            - and in general - how can one take money from a child when he does not have it? Just by age?



            You can ROMAN, as much as possible ... under a plausible pretext to cut social payments to mothers, pensioners ...
            limit support to kindergarten, school, etc.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 4 July 2016 13: 06
              +1
              Alex,

              I'm not stupid, I ask again:

              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              under a plausible pretext to cut social payments to mothers, pensioners ... limit support to kindergartens, schools, etc.

              - But what, really cut - limited - and so on?
              - what exactly and how approximately?
              - I just don’t come across it - my child is already an adult and lives .. um .. far request
    3. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 4 July 2016 09: 04
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Strange all this ... it seems that ordinary people are bred like suckers.
      The word "how" in your sentence is superfluous lol
      And on the topic, now Cat Man Null will explain and explain everything to you that - “Life has become better, life has become more fun!” (C)
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 4 July 2016 09: 35
        +1
        Quote: Alibekulu
        And on the topic, now Cat Man Null will explain and explain everything to you that - “Life has become better, life has become more fun!” (C)

        - I would ask not to remember me ... in vain yes
        - I'm not going to explain anything to anyone. I just do not like it when they lie and distort. And when they juggle it, I also don’t like it
        - and all request
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 4 July 2016 11: 57
          +1
          - I would ask not to remember me ... in vain
          --------------------------------------------
          Oops on! Do not squeeze the wings? : =)
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 4 July 2016 12: 58
            0
            Quote: guzik007
            - I would ask not to remember me ... in vain
            --------------------------------------------
            Oops on! Do not squeeze the wings? : =)

            - for especially talented: was this a joke, is it accessible? fool
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 4 July 2016 11: 38
        +1
        This is a record of 2013. I really didn’t fully understand what you wanted to show / prove to her?
        At that time there was no reason to hold a referendum on the accession of Crimea to the Russian Federation, because then the Western special services did not carry out a revolution in Ukraine.
        So Solovyov speaks about that geopolitical situation.
        When everything happened as it happened, when the probability of the deployment of NATO bases in Crimea became real, when the probability of genocide of the Crimean population became almost 100%, a decision was made that led us to where we are now.
        Historians will argue about whether good or bad will be in 20 years. So far, this is an empty talk.
        P.S. I apologize for breaking into the dialogue!
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 4 July 2016 11: 52
          0
          Quote: silver_roman
          So Solovyov speaks about that geopolitical situation.
          When everything happened as it happened, when the probability of the deployment of NATO bases in Crimea became real, when the probability of genocide of the Crimean population became almost 100%, a decision was made that led us to where we are now.

          That is, everything changed dramatically in half a year? And there were no signs, and suddenly ... one day the Ukrainians woke up and realized that they want to arrange genocide))))
          Yesterday they didn’t want to, but today they are hungry .. And always in Crimea, where the military base stands)))
          Okay, let's not argue about that. We believe further in the solar eclipse and Putin's genius, and our super intelligence, which predicts events for ... 1 day in advance.

          PS Soloviev said everything correctly. They’re just paying well now. And tomorrow, he will put Putna on what the bill is. Did not understand this yet .. sorry for you.
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 4 July 2016 12: 34
            +2
            Quote: Al1977
            That is, everything changed dramatically in half a year?

            it feels like you just got out of the freezer in which you lay since the referendum.
            If you remember that Crimea will become part of the Russian Federation, that a revolution will take place in Ukraine, somehow few people assumed.
            Then our intelligence clutched at the head. Then, when a referendum was held in the Crimea - Western intelligence. And you all knew in advance. Have you foreseen?

            I'm not talking about genocide, just some started to write that Solovyov "first for the Whites, then for the Reds" and in that tone.
            I just pointed out that at the time when he spoke in this video, everything was still relatively calm, and you dragged Putin and some kind of eclipse here.
            Separate the cutlets from the flies and with a colder mind approach this all.
            Quote: Al1977
            Soloviev said everything correctly

            That is precisely what I affirm.
            Quote: Al1977
            They’re just paying well now. And tomorrow, he will put Putna on what the bill is.

            then it’s necessary to drive such people to the neck.
            hi
      3. guzik007
        guzik007 4 July 2016 11: 55
        0
        Soloviev about Crimea
        -----------------------------

        Yeah! the "Kremlin nightingale" got in the way at one time for the most "I can't"
        But then, having shown his full venality, he worked back with wild power.
        Hypocrite, boor and skin.
      4. horizon
        horizon 4 July 2016 12: 02
        +1
        This is not a valid video. Offhand this is 2013, that is, before the Maidan. And in that situation, Soloviev reasoned quite correctly.
      5. kirgudu
        kirgudu 4 July 2016 12: 25
        0
        Well, what are you talking about Shapiro right away. His position is clear, developed over millennia. Where it’s good, there’s the homeland, and what’s more profitable, we’re doing it.
      6. atalef
        atalef 4 July 2016 13: 12
        0
        Quote: Alibekulu
        And on the topic, now Cat Man Null will explain everything to you and explain that - “Life has become better, life has become more fun!” (With


        laughing wink
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 4 July 2016 16: 25
          +1
          And what do you dislike?
    4. a housewife
      a housewife 4 July 2016 15: 25
      -3
      We, ordinary inhabitants, are not bred like suckers. What does it mean - bred? If in normal language - cheat? No, they do not deceive us, they rob us. When a robber takes a person’s wallet, it doesn’t matter how the robber looks, what he says. The main thing is that the wallet was taken away, what is there to understand and what can be deceived here?
    5. Tsoy
      Tsoy 4 July 2016 15: 49
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Strange all this ... it seems that ordinary people are bred like suckers.


      As it is not regrettable, but since the creation of the world, the common people for any ruler is perceived as an appendage to power.
  6. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 4 July 2016 08: 00
    +5
    I don’t know how it is in the state treasury, but many people have been fired for salaries and employment recently, it hasn’t been added, and prices have risen. Housing utilities have been raised for so many laws so that the people can take the last scam from them with loans that children are supposed to take away from villages. I’m silent there, they just survive, everything is destroyed, everyone goes to Moscow to earn money, the Nettle’s government, let their people earn it so they brought migrants and they like their own, but I remember in 80 countries, slowly but surely, roads were built in the villages, schools, almost all were busy with work, I I was proud of that government — and stability was in the army with pleasure — now even after graduating from the institute, the youth will not find decent work and the rulers don’t give a damn about the main people — they ruled the country of Unicorns for 15 years and worse and worse in the country, a lot without donated projects make half plundered the guilty; they do not punish you; you cannot punish yourself;
    1. 13 warrior
      13 warrior 4 July 2016 08: 20
      +5
      Victor, I'm wildly sorry, but what is this "stream of consciousness"?
      Minus did not set, but read and cried. A bunch of bugs. Respect the readers, please.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 4 July 2016 08: 43
        -2
        Quote: 13 warrior
        Victor, I'm wildly sorry, but what is this "stream of consciousness"? I didn't put a minus, but I read and cried. A bunch of errors

        - this groan is called a song (s)
        - option: this is the cry of the soul request
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 4 July 2016 08: 49
          -3
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Quote: 13 warrior
          Victor, I'm wildly sorry, but what is this "stream of consciousness"? I didn't put a minus, but I read and cried. A bunch of errors

          - this groan is called a song (s)
          - option: this is the cry of the soul request

          Judging by the last sentence, I have the option that this person is not from our country. Or a lover of revolutions.
      2. VICTOR-61
        VICTOR-61 4 July 2016 10: 12
        0
        sorry for mistakes
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 4 July 2016 15: 31
          +3
          Quote: VICTOR-61
          sorry for mistakes

          Put a point.
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 4 July 2016 08: 43
      -4
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      I don’t know how it is in the state treasury, but many people have been fired for salaries and employment recently, it hasn’t been added, and prices have risen. Housing utilities have been raised for so many laws so that the people can take the last scam from them with loans that children are supposed to take away from villages. I’m silent there, they just survive, everything is destroyed, everyone goes to Moscow to earn money, the Nettle’s government, let their people earn it so they brought migrants and they like their own, but I remember in 80 countries, slowly but surely, roads were built in the villages, schools, almost all were busy with work, I I was proud of that government — and stability was in the army with pleasure — now even after graduating from the institute, the youth will not find decent work and the rulers don’t give a damn about the main people — they ruled the country of Unicorns for 15 years and worse and worse in the country, a lot without donated projects make half plundered the guilty; they do not punish you; you cannot punish yourself;

      4% on housing and utilities inflated? You would like to go to Ukraine ... Years have gone to Moscow since 2000, and not from 15–16. They are now joining the army with pleasure. And of course, 15 years of United Russia, but you probably don’t remember the end of the 90s, when people were poor and could not afford not only a car, but even home repairs. And now there are cases of 2 cars per family. And they’re building well now. Record figures for housing commissioning. And how many kindergartens were built? Now, I heard, they will take up schools. I don’t argue, there is a ram in EP, but to say that we have been living worse and worse for the last 15 years ... we must either be a liberal from the 90s or a creature of the latter ...
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 4 July 2016 09: 00
        -5
        Minusator, disprove me. I want to argue. Or are there no arguments besides minus? Is everything that I said the truth and it offends me? :)
        1. Igor39
          Igor39 4 July 2016 09: 19
          0
          Tell me there with the Zenith arena? How many billions do they need and when will they finish it? laughing
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 4 July 2016 09: 29
            +1
            I wrote about the Zenith arena? No. Refute that which I am not right. Especially about 15 years old and worse. And I kind of wrote about the ram in EP.
          2. Cat man null
            Cat man null 4 July 2016 09: 38
            -6
            Quote: Igor39
            Tell me there with the Zenith arena? How many billions do they need and when will they finish it?

            - What do you mean? They’ll finish the construction, they won’t ask us ... some kind of masochism, forgive me, Lord ...
            - Honduras worries - do not scratch, it will stop ...
        2. VICTOR-61
          VICTOR-61 4 July 2016 09: 49
          +2
          firstly, I didn’t describe the year 90 when Gorbachev handed over the country and 80 and there’s nothing to do with it, and I’m not describing individuals but about the whole of Russia, yes, I agree that some live on a large scale now, but the bulk of the pension is miserable, which must be paid to utilities and a lot of things and the products how much they cost, they just don’t have anything for normal food, but if you get sick, this money is only enough for half a pack of analginum. Well, the videos saw how Medvedev answered pensioners from the Crimea. A decent fake movie. Can you live worthy for 8 thousand Muvka, most likely just you are fine with work and you don’t give a damn about the rest and I don’t call you — we earned most of the apartments for 80 years, worked for 3-5 years and received without loans — sorry for the mistakes if I made a lot
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          2. Muvka
            Muvka 4 July 2016 10: 48
            0
            Quote: VICTOR-61
            firstly, I didn’t describe the year 90 when Gorbachev handed over the country and 80 and there’s nothing to do with it, and I’m not describing individuals but about the whole of Russia, yes, I agree that some live on a large scale now, but the bulk of the pension is miserable, which must be paid to utilities and a lot of things and the products how much they cost, they just don’t have anything for normal food, but if you get sick, this money is only enough for half a pack of analginum. Well, the videos saw how Medvedev answered pensioners from the Crimea. A decent fake movie. Can you live worthy for 8 thousand Muvka, most likely just you are fine with work and you don’t give a damn about the rest and I don’t call you — we earned most of the apartments for 80 years, worked for 3-5 years and received without loans — sorry for the mistakes if I made a lot

            Do you know that more than 22% of pensions and salaries cannot go to housing and communal services? I don’t know where the pension is 8k, I can tell my parents. receive 11k + from the mother a non-old-age pension. For the neighbor they somehow received - there is 13k. And the day before the granny came, through 3 houses. She is 81, and the pension is 18k. And this is a small town in the depressed Ivanovo region. And even I, at 27 years old, can live quite 10k even. And even put it off a little bit. Maybe because I do not drink beer and do not smoke? Have you tried to calculate how much money it takes for these habits? And the products are not expensive. You just don’t have to go online where European food is sold. In our magnet prices are normal, as well as quality. And vital medicines are not expensive. But I do not argue with the fact that there are doctors in the country who specifically prescribe expensive drugs. I didn’t live in 80, or rather 1 year, and I don’t remember, but I remember the end of 90 - the beginning of 2000 and people who say that we lived better in those years than now are disgusted with me.
            1. razmik72
              razmik72 4 July 2016 11: 38
              +1
              [/ center] [quote = Muvka] [quote = VICTOR-61] firstly I didn’t describe the year 90 when Gorbachev handed over the country and 80 didn’t have any drawbacks here and I’m not describing individuals but about the whole of Russia, yes, I agree, some live now on a large scale and the bulk of the pension is meager which you need to give to the housing and communal services and a lot of things and how much food they have, they just don’t have enough for normal food, and if you get sick then this money is only enough for half a pack of analgin well, the videos saw how Medvedev answered the pensioners from the Crimea decent fake - you can live with dignity for 8 thousand Muvka - most likely it’s just that you are fine with work and you don’t give a damn about it and we don’t give you a call — we earned 80 apartments for most of 3-5 years and received without loans — sorry for the mistakes if you made a lot [/ quote]
              Do you know that more than 22% of pensions and salaries cannot go to housing and communal services? I don’t know where the pension is 8k, I can tell my parents. receive 11k + from the mother a non-old-age pension. For the neighbor they somehow received - there is 13k. And the day before the granny came, through 3 houses. She is 81, and the pension is 18k. And this is a small town in the depressed Ivanovo region. And even I, at 27 years old, can live quite 10k even. And even put it off a little bit. Maybe because I do not drink beer and do not smoke? Have you tried to calculate how much money it takes for these habits? And the products are not expensive. [Center]

              Of course, I’m far from Russian realities and pensions, but I’m watching Russian TV. So, you have a program, you forgot the name, it is Yakubovich, you guess the words. In this program, the presenter always asks the players the amount of their pensions. The most common answer - 6-7 -8 thousand rubles, which, you must agree, is miserable. And about food prices, I was recently in Russia and have an idea about your prices. Prices for vegetables and fruits are many times more expensive than in Armenia , I emphasize, at times more expensive.
            2. sdc_alex
              sdc_alex 4 July 2016 13: 27
              +1
              Quote: Muvka
              Are you aware that more than 22% of pensions and salaries cannot go to housing and communal services? I don’t know where 8k pensions are, I can tell my parents. receive 11k + from the mother a non-old-age pension. For the neighbor they somehow received - there 13k. And the day before yesterday the granny came, through 3 at home. She is 81, and her pension is 18.

              And my grandfather in general 30 000 r. receives a pension. Well, really, he's a war veteran.
        3. razmik72
          razmik72 4 July 2016 09: 59
          +4
          Quote: Muvka
          Minusator, disprove me. I want to argue. Or are there no arguments besides minus? Is everything that I said the truth and it offends me? :)

          In vain you minus, dear Muvka, just
          "spiteful critics" do not see those titanic shifts in the economy and throw mud at the accomplishments of the party and the government. In Armenia, the people also do not understand and do not see those gigantic accomplishments that the ruling party is committing, the people only whine that there is nothing to eat, what the party is for and the government rightly says:
          "But OUR KARABAKH !!!!" laughing
          1. twviewer
            twviewer 4 July 2016 14: 59
            +1
            Quote: razmik72
            "spiteful critics" do not see those titanic shifts in the economy and throw mud at the accomplishments of the party and government

            The spiteful critics realized that at $ 100 per barrel we are going to the level of Zimbabwe steadily, but slowly, at 30 quickly, and at 50 "stable". Reaching the level of Zimbabwe after the start of change in 50 years of "steady development" is indeed a gigantic job, especially considering the simple fact that the USSR was at least the 2nd economy in the world.
            1. Muvka
              Muvka 4 July 2016 15: 41
              +1
              Quote: twviewer
              Quote: razmik72
              "spiteful critics" do not see those titanic shifts in the economy and throw mud at the accomplishments of the party and government

              The spiteful critics realized that at $ 100 per barrel we are going to the level of Zimbabwe steadily, but slowly, at 30 quickly, and at 50 "stable". Reaching the level of Zimbabwe after the start of change in 50 years of "steady development" is indeed a gigantic job, especially considering the simple fact that the USSR was at least the 2nd economy in the world.

              Well, if now we calculate the GDP of all countries that were part of the USSR, then I think it will turn out that we will be 2 or 3 economies in the world. Do not forget that you are comparing the GDP of the USSR and Russia, and these are different in size and quantity of the country's population.
              1. twviewer
                twviewer 4 July 2016 21: 23
                0
                Quote: Muvka
                Well, if now we calculate the GDP of all countries that were part of the USSR, then I think it will turn out that we will be 2 or 3 economies in the world. Do not forget that you are comparing the GDP of the USSR and Russia, and these are different in size and quantity of the country's population.

                I compare 2nd place and last, and GDP is generally an accounting indicator and is not tied to the strength of the economy.
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 4 July 2016 21: 37
                  0
                  Quote: twviewer
                  I compare 2nd place and last

                  - Well, the second, this is the USSR, probably ... and the "last" is what?

                  Quote: twviewer
                  GDP is generally an accounting indicator

                  - um ... what

                  Quote: twviewer
                  and is not tied to the strength of the economy

                  - What do you think is "the strength of the economy"? Can you give a definition?
                  - and what is tied to this "power"?
                  1. twviewer
                    twviewer 4 July 2016 21: 42
                    0
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    ... ... ( (

                    buddy, what do you essentially have? is it empty? I do not delay.
                  2. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 4 July 2016 21: 56
                    +2
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Quote: twviewer
                    GDP is generally an accounting indicator
                    - um ...

                    Aw! Split personality? laughing
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    - What do you think is "the strength of the economy"? Can you give a definition?
                    - and what is tied to this "power"?

                    Excuse me for interfering, but I would tie the welfare of the people to the strength of the economy. Although, as far as I remember, there was nothing like that in the subject of "economics" (he studied in a techie, he was a quitter, and he remained).
                    1. twviewer
                      twviewer 4 July 2016 22: 04
                      0
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Aw! Split personality? laughing

                      you are also a doctor, oh dear, the economy is over.
                    2. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 4 July 2016 22: 06
                      0
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Aw! Split personality?

                      - not understood... belay

                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      I would tie the welfare of the people to the strength of the economy

                      - that was not the point. The concept of "power of the economy" .. it is akin to the concept of "communication", for example
                      - a fight, a business meeting, bed, e-mail correspondence - all this is "communication"
                      - exactly the same with the "power of the economy" yes

                      As for the "welfare of the people" - this is another non-formalized concept, nothing more.

                      Amused:

                      Quote: twviewer
                      What do you essentially have? is it empty? don't hold up

                      - merged, camping trip, twviewer
                      - sorry, it could have been interesting request
                      1. twviewer
                        twviewer 4 July 2016 22: 17
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        - merged, camping trip, twviewer

                        yeah, as an intellectual meeting - right into the bushes laughing
                      2. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 July 2016 22: 23
                        0
                        Quote: twviewer
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        - merged, camping trip, twviewer
                        yeah, as an intellectual meeting - right into the bushes laughing

                        - Your right. Only the concept of "the power of the economy" does not exist in nature ... you are our timid wink
                        - You, meanwhile, are operating quite vigorously with them
                        - so I decided it was interesting - maybe there is some secret knowledge?

                        And, to the campaign, there isn’t him there, knowledge ... pichalka sad
                      3. twviewer
                        twviewer 4 July 2016 22: 37
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Your right. Only the concept of "the power of the economy" does not exist in nature ... you are timid, you are our wink
                        - You, meanwhile, are operating quite vigorously with them
                        - so I decided it was interesting - maybe there is some secret knowledge?

                        And, to a campaign, there is no knowledge there ...

                        from how is it? Does power exist, does the economy exist, but is the strength of the economy no longer? But what do you call such a manifestation of power such as independence from external factors? import substitution ?? :) something by the way is not heard about him, you are all-knowing ours.
                      4. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 July 2016 22: 47
                        0
                        Quote: twviewer
                        from how is it? Does power exist, does the economy exist, but is the strength of the economy no longer?

                        - exactly yes
                        - wind power is what I know. And everyone knows. The term is a patamushta, quite a scientific
                        - but cheburashka "strength of the economy" - there is no such term

                        And this means that the phrase:

                        Quote: twviewer
                        ... GDP is generally an accounting indicator and to not tied to the strength of the economy

                        - There is nonsense.

                        That's all request
                      5. twviewer
                        twviewer 4 July 2016 22: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        That's all request

                        and tied to size? and what is the structure of GDP?
                      6. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 July 2016 23: 03
                        -1
                        Quote: twviewer
                        and tied to size?

                        - who is tied? "To size" - what size?
                        - I’m already lost in your ... mindsets what

                        Quote: twviewer
                        and what is the structure of GDP?

                        - where does the GDP come from? You yourself said that he was irrelevant?

                        And in general, it seemed to me that I asked a question ... Okay.

                        About "the power of the economy" - we passed, it is not in nature. Question:

                        - Where did you get that the Russian economy is now "the last" (nonsense, by the way!), and is equal to the economy of Zimbabwe? belay
                        - is it you yourself invented, or is it someone you bad taught? wink
                      7. twviewer
                        twviewer 4 July 2016 23: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        About "the power of the economy" - drove, it is not in nature

                        I’m embarrassed to ask, but is there an economy in nature?
                      8. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 July 2016 23: 17
                        0
                        Quote: twviewer
                        I’m embarrassed to ask, but is there an economy in nature?

                        Have you been banned in Google?

                        The term "economy" means, in particular:

                        1. The totality of production relations corresponding to this stage of development of the productive forces of society, the dominant mode of production in society.

                        2. The organization, structure and condition of a n. business sectors

                        So - there is, do not hesitate. But You we were distracted, so still:

                        - Where did you get that the Russian economy is now "the last", and is equal to the economy of Zimbabwe?
                      9. twviewer
                        twviewer 4 July 2016 23: 26
                        -1
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        - where did you get it from

                        and how often in nature do you encounter a combination of production relations or the structure of an industry? and if they are not there then ...
                      10. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 5 July 2016 00: 07
                        -1
                        Quote: twviewer
                        ...

                        Okay. You are understood.

                        In order not to bore you too much - keep it, use it. All further questions on this topic - in Google, everything is there about it yes

                        GDP (PPP) per capita. GDP (gross domestic product) per capita at purchasing power parity (PPP) is the most accurate characteristic that determines the level of economic development, as well as economic growth. All indicators for comparability are expressed in a single currency - the US Federal Reserve dollar. Recalculations from national currencies, as is customary in international economic comparisons, are not carried out at market exchange rates of currencies, but at purchasing power parities

                        Places (IMF List):

                        1. Qatar
                        2. Luxembourg
                        6 Norway
                        9 Sweden
                        10. USA
                        15 Sweden
                        18. Germany
                        24. France
                        25. United Kingdom
                        49. Russia
                        52 Kazakhstan
                        66. Belorussia
                        84. PRC
                        143. Cote D "Yvoire lol
                        161. Zimbabwe

                        So you .. that .. were slightly mistaken, saying that "the Russian economy is equal to the economy of Zimbabwe".
                        request

                        Teach materiel hi
                      11. oking
                        oking 5 July 2016 00: 25
                        -1
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        GDP (PPP) per capita.

                        This, amiable, in simple terms is called the word bullshit. Wiring for suckers. Information is nothing.
                        For a more accurate assessment of the welfare of the population, there are other indicators. For example, the level of net assets per capita over 20 years from Credit Suisse.
                        If the Russian level is taken as 100%, then the level of Zimbabwe will be 31,1%.
                        And some Morocco has 86,3%. Already close enough.
                        And Angola (Russia has written off $ 3,5 billion of debt to it) has 130,5%.
                        And Mongolia (Russia has written off 11,1 billion dollars of debt to it) has 132,6%.
                      12. twviewer
                        twviewer 5 July 2016 01: 03
                        -2
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        So you .. that .. were slightly mistaken, saying that "the Russian economy is equal to the economy of Zimbabwe."

                        thank God mastered Google, read more learn, and show a quote about Zimbabwe
                        Learn the structure of the GDP before it trumps, otherwise I will have to tell you one indecent joke about 3 homosexuals who decided to raise the GDP
                      13. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 5 July 2016 01: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: twviewer
                        and show a quote about Zimbabwe

                        Do you have amnesia?

                        Quote: twviewer
                        The spiteful critics realized that at $ 100 per barrel we are going to the level of Zimbabwe steadily, but slowly, at 30 quickly, and at 50 "stable". Reaching the level of Zimbabwe after the start of changes in 50 years of "steady development" is a truly gigantic job, especially considering the simple fact that the USSR was at least the 2nd economy in the world

                        Quote: twviewer
                        I compare 2nd place and last...

                        Quote: twviewer
                        I have to tell you one indecent joke about 3 homosexuals who decided to raise GDP

                        - and you tell. Have you been in the bathhouse for a long time? wink
                      14. twviewer
                        twviewer 5 July 2016 02: 16
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        - and you tell. Have you been in the bathhouse for a long time?

                        Wow, I see a specialist in this matter, so where is Russia equal to Zimbabwe And you are a great original as I look ...
                      15. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 5 July 2016 02: 34
                        0
                        Quote: twviewer
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        - and you tell. Have you been in the bathhouse for a long time?

                        Wow you i see specialist in this business

                        - yes ... really ... "sat at the table, sat" (c) Cat Behemoth

                        Quote: twviewer
                        so where is Russia equal to Zimbabwe

                        - nowhere request
                        - Duc, she is not equal ...
                        - and the economy of the Russian Federation is certainly not "the last"

                        Actually, that's all yes
                      16. twviewer
                        twviewer 5 July 2016 14: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        - and the economy of the Russian Federation is certainly not "the last"

                        I see this achievement comforts you greatly
                      17. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 4 July 2016 22: 26
                        +2
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Aw! Split personality?
                        - not understood...

                        Our president immediately remembered. smile
                        Quote: twviewer
                        you are also a doctor, oh dear, the economy is over.

                        I'm generally a locksmith. Where is this economy? am
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        - fight, bed,

                        A bed is better than a fight. wink
                      18. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 July 2016 22: 32
                        0
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Our president immediately remembered

                        - Does our President have a split in person?
                        - once again - did not understand ...

                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Bed is better than a fight

                        ... Fight is an entertaining sight, provided that if you don’t participate, the fire is beautiful too - if not yours is on fire. You rarely see this when they fight in the fire. Handsomely. You don’t know what to look at ...

                      19. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 4 July 2016 22: 41
                        +2
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        - Does our President have a split in person?

                        More likely with me. All the time I confuse the gross product with Putin.
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        You rarely see this when they fight in the fire. Handsomely.

                        But for me - no. Put pressure on both heads, and extinguish the fire, not stare.
                      20. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 July 2016 22: 52
                        +1
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        All the time confusing gross product with Putin

                        - ... male with cable, furniture with mobile ... demobilization with pendell ... laughing

                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        But for me - no. Put pressure on both heads, and extinguish the fire, not stare

                        - it's good if only "both" what
                        - and if there is wall to wall, yes weapons? I wouldn’t climb, well, laughing

                        The book, by the way, is funny. Recommend yes
                      21. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 4 July 2016 23: 00
                        +2
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        and if there is wall to wall, yes weapons? I wouldn’t climb, well,

                        Hard case, I agree.
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        The book, by the way, is funny. Recommend

                        Thanks, I wrote it down.
            2. oking
              oking 5 July 2016 01: 11
              -1
              Quote: twviewer
              especially considering the simple fact that the USSR was at least the 2nd economy of the world.

              And you know how to make fun.
        4. Makk
          Makk 4 July 2016 10: 21
          +2
          I am one of the minusers. The drug addict, too, is smiling and he is very well. Everything that you wrote is true ... but not all, and even in a family with two cars, have enough problems. There is nothing to argue about, someone sees the trunk, someone .., and someone the whole elephant.
  7. Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 July 2016 08: 14
    +6
    First, we can stop using these mercantile phrases. Allies or enemies, but not partners. Then I still don’t understand why I should be worried about what they say about my country, whether it is good or bad.
    My opinion is that while we are controlled by people who do not know how to make money, all their skill comes down to taking loans in the west and raising taxes. These people lead the country to collapse. Which confirms this message from abroad, if we are praised, then we live by their rules.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 4 July 2016 08: 36
      -9
      Quote: Gardamir
      Allies or enemies ...

      - this is usually in a war ...

      Quote: Gardamir
      but not partners

      - so it’s just ... trading and other partners, no matter how disgusting request

      Quote: Gardamir
      My opinion so far we are controlled by people who do not know how to make money

      - I don’t understand ... Should the President and the government earn money for you? belay
      - cool ... I'm used to earning for myself ...

      Quote: Gardamir
      These people lead the country to collapse. Which confirms this message from abroad, if we are praised, then we live by their rules

      - But what, the truth - praise? Who where?! Pamper the link? wink
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 4 July 2016 08: 46
        +7
        Should the president and government make money for you?
        Well, you as a child, by golly. For the country, money, for the country. And then they don’t have money, but we keep HERE, I don’t know how they are there.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 4 July 2016 08: 53
          -3
          Quote: Gardamir
          For the country, money, for the country

          "For the country" money is earned by:

          - those who produce something and then sell
          - those who get something and then sell
          - those who just sell something, by the way - they also earn,
          - because they all pay taxes. From which the budget is formed. For the country.

          The president and the government, of course, also pay taxes. But this is nothing compared to everything else ...

          That's something like ...
      2. guzik007
        guzik007 4 July 2016 12: 02
        -1
        and what, really - praise? Who where?! Pamper the link? wink
        -------------------------------------------------- ------------
        There is such a category of people who need links all the time, because they are not used to thinking on their own. We are talking about such doctors - his patient died due to a typo in the directory.: =)
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 4 July 2016 12: 55
          +2
          Quote: guzik007
          Here is a category of people who need links all the time, because they’re not used to thinking on their own

          - are you talking to yourself now?

          Quote: guzik007
          and what, really - praise? Who where?!

          - I just somehow did not hear the last year that someone greatly praised the leadership of the Russian Federation.
          - maybe you heard?
          - yes, no, I don’t know?

          He’ll tell me about doctors here, with a reference ... Phe negative
    2. Makk
      Makk 4 July 2016 10: 26
      +1
      First, we can stop using these mercantile phrases. Allies or enemies, but not partners.

      You are told in Russian by the PARTNERS, which means not allies and not enemies.
      Then I still don’t understand why I should be worried about what they say about my country, whether it is good or bad.

      These different are very tightly held for me ..... and, in principle, do not care what they say if only they would not squeeze.
  8. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 4 July 2016 08: 23
    +5
    Meanwhile, a feast during the plague. Fly cheaper. Patriotism on the face. am So I wonder in case of war, what percentage of our citizens will be pulled abroad to sit out? angry
    .. "Turkey in the three days that have passed since the opening of sales of vouchers has become the most popular destination among Russians. According to Kommersant, about 35 percent of the sold tours were in this direction. Tour operators announced their readiness to restore the charter program, but it is possible after the decision of the Federal Air Transport Agency .... "https://lenta.ru/news/2016/07/04/turkey/
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 4 July 2016 14: 26
      +2
      in case of war, what percentage of our citizens will rush abroad
      Yes, even without war they changed tickets from the Crimea and Sochi to Turkey.
  9. ism_ek
    ism_ek 4 July 2016 08: 33
    +6
    Rosselkhozbank increased its ruble capitalization most of all - by almost 60%. The so active growth in capitalization of the same Rosselkhozbank is associated both with measures of state financial support and with a rather positive state of affairs in domestic agriculture. If you believe the reporting, then against the backdrop of a general economic downturn in 2015, the Russian agriculture showed a good growth - about 3,3%. The portfolio of loans for the agricultural sector of the Russian Federation issued by Rosselkhozbank has increased.
    From the reporting of the RSHB itself for the 1st quarter of 2016:

    Last year, Rosselkhozbank lost 90 billion rubles. Naturally, the government urgently supports the bank at the expense of our money. At the same time, the bank’s management, headed by Mr. Patrushev’s son, received various awards for almost 2015 million rubles in 250. Mr. Patrushev receives 100 thousand rubles a day.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 4 July 2016 09: 01
      .
      Quote: ism_ek
      the government urgently supports the bank at the expense of our money

      - my money is in my pocket. Yours, I think - in yours
      - support for banks was carried out due to the "safety cushion", consisting, in particular, of the very Treasuries who for some reason do not like very much here laughing

      Voooot ...
      1. Suhov
        Suhov 4 July 2016 10: 00
        +9
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        - my money is in my pocket. Yours, I think - in yours

        The problem is that the state often confuses the pockets of its own and its citizens ...
        And insolently cleans the pockets of the latter ...

        The Central Bank was obliged to keep the dollar, but did not fulfill its obligations.
        Again, he advised me to keep my savings in rubles, and ... severely deceived those who believed them.
        So your statement about pockets is not entirely correct. smile

        The article is custom-made, with the aim of assuring citizens that hypnosis is going well, you just hold on ...., hold out until the elections and vote correctly ...
        In short.
        There is a zombie of the electorate... wassat
        1. razmik72
          razmik72 4 July 2016 10: 20
          0
          Quote: Sukhov
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          - my money is in my pocket. Yours, I think - in yours

          The problem is that the state often confuses the pockets of its own and its citizens ...
          And insolently cleans the pockets of the latter ...

          The Central Bank was obliged to keep the dollar, but did not fulfill its obligations.
          Again, he advised me to keep my savings in rubles, and ... severely deceived those who believed them.
          So your statement about pockets is not entirely correct. smile

          The article is custom-made, with the aim of assuring citizens that hypnosis is going well, you just hold on ...., hold out until the elections and vote correctly ...
          In short.
          There is a zombie of the electorate... wassat

          Something I’m watching, recently the zombie of the electorate is getting worse and worse. fellow .
          1. Suhov
            Suhov 4 July 2016 12: 31
            +1
            Quote: razmik72
            Something I’m watching, recently the zombie of the electorate is getting worse and worse.

            There is a systematic creation of a revolutionary situation ... yes
            If we take into account the fact that revolution is "by definition" bad, then ... recourse
        2. Cat man null
          Cat man null 4 July 2016 10: 21
          -4
          Quote: Sukhov
          The Central Bank was obliged to keep the dollar, but did not fulfill its obligations

          - Well, of course, you know better laughing
          - the ruble was being poured on purpose, and, as it would be easier to say ... "outside" the Russian Federation, here
          - that the Central Bank was able to keep - and then kept
          - tell you that the ruble was overvalued by 2014 and that his beloved needed to devalue, as I understand it, the pointless yes

          Quote: Sukhov
          Savings, again, advised to keep in rubles and Nah ... severely deceived those who believed them

          - lost a lot? Sorry...
          - I've not lost a penny. I live "off the wheels", from paycheck to paycheck, saving ... request

          Quote: Sukhov
          So your statement about pockets is not entirely correct

          - yes, I would ... I repeat if someone did not understand:
          - my money is the one in my pocket ... try to refute wink

          Quote: Sukhov
          The article is custom-made, it aims at how hypnosis to assure citizens that everything is going well.

          - good. Is this also custom-made?


          - she is here, on VO "lives", by the way tongue

          Quote: Sukhov
          There is a zombie of the electorate ...

          - naturally. Only the article has something to do with? belay
          1. razmik72
            razmik72 4 July 2016 10: 38
            +1
            Dear Roman, this is not a grateful business to open the eyes of compatriots to the accomplishments of the party and the government, oh, not grateful, in Armenia the same people do not see the great accomplishments of their government, day and night thinking about their people. They are so "burning" at work that mansions they grow up in one month and all this in the name of the people and for the people. In our country, the same propagandists have been assuring the people for 25 years that only a little bit is left, now the whole country will go to earthly paradise, and to questions like:
            "And when finally?"
            Answer:
            "But OUR KARABAKH !!!!" wassat
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 4 July 2016 11: 09
              -3
              Quote: razmik72
              Dear Roman, this is not a grateful business to open the eyes of compatriots to the accomplishments of the party and the government, oh, not grateful, in Armenia the same people do not see the great accomplishments of their government, day and night thinking about their people. They are so "burning" at work that mansions they grow up in one month and all this in the name of the people and for the people

              - trollim s? Nude ...

              Quote: razmik72
              We have the same propagandists assure the people

              - and here, Vasya, stop. I do not need propagandists
              - I always say kakbe only for myself (not for the people) and I never promise anyone anything
              - such a habit. From the 90s yet laughing

              Do you feel? wink
              1. razmik72
                razmik72 4 July 2016 11: 22
                +1
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Quote: razmik72
                Dear Roman, this is not a grateful business to open the eyes of compatriots to the accomplishments of the party and the government, oh, not grateful, in Armenia the same people do not see the great accomplishments of their government, day and night thinking about their people. They are so "burning" at work that mansions they grow up in one month and all this in the name of the people and for the people

                - trollim s? Nude ...

                Quote: razmik72
                We have the same propagandists assure the people

                - and here, Vasya, stop. I do not need propagandists
                - I always say kakbe only for myself (not for the people) and I never promise anyone anything
                - such a habit. From the 90s yet laughing

                Do you feel? wink

                Why is it so tough - "troll?" I just don't like it when people are held for fools and wipe their feet on them, while saying:
                "There is no money, but you hold on there, all the best and good mood to you !!" laughing
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                2. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 4 July 2016 11: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: razmik72
                  I just don’t like when people are held by fools and their feet are wiped on them

                  - I don’t like that either ...

                  Quote: razmik72
                  ... saying "There is no money, but you are holding on there, all the best and good mood to you !!"

                  - but it was said something a little different .. the video that goes on the network is a balcony installation from UkroSMI
                  - it was like this (video below, watch from 1.30)

                  - (pensioner) They promised to carry out indexation, where is this indexing?
                  - (Medvedev) She is nowhere to be found. She was not accepted at all. Just no money. Find the money - do the indexing. You stay here, all the best, good mood to you ...

                  The meaning changes slightly, no?

                  Quote: razmik72
                  Why so tough

                  - it's still (so far) very gentle yes

                  And the video is not inserted, here is the link:

                  1. razmik72
                    razmik72 4 July 2016 12: 30
                    0
                    The meaning of what your prime minister said didn’t change much, if you take your version of it for granted. Actually, there is money, but they don’t reach pensioners, Russia concludes agreements with Egypt and Turkey on the construction of nuclear power plants at their own expense. The truth is, the construction of nuclear power plants in Turkey has been suspended, but in the light of the current warming of Russian-Turkish relations, it will resume. Money will be repaired in a few decades, Russia is building nuclear power plants there entirely with its own money.
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 4 July 2016 14: 18
                      0
                      Quote: razmik72
                      if you take on faith your version of what was said

                      - A video, such as breaking to see, right? fool

                      Quote: razmik72
                      Actually, there is money, but it doesn’t reach pensioners, Russia concludes agreements with Egypt and Turkey on the construction of nuclear power plants at their own expense

                      - the construction of the nuclear power plant will certainly not be carried out at the expense of the Pension Fund ... do not try to seem dumber than you are, still I will not believe

                      Quote: razmik72
                      . Money will be repulsed after several decades, Russia is building nuclear power plants there completely with its own money

                      - What is it for you? dog business? Are you from Armenia, as I understand it?
                      - Still troll, sir? wink
                      - nude nude yes
                      1. razmik72
                        razmik72 4 July 2016 15: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Quote: razmik72
                        if you take on faith your version of what was said

                        - A video, such as breaking to see, right? fool

                        Quote: razmik72
                        Actually, there is money, but it doesn’t reach pensioners, Russia concludes agreements with Egypt and Turkey on the construction of nuclear power plants at their own expense

                        - the construction of the nuclear power plant will certainly not be carried out at the expense of the Pension Fund ... do not try to seem dumber than you are, still I will not believe

                        Quote: razmik72
                        . Money will be repulsed after several decades, Russia is building nuclear power plants there completely with its own money

                        - What is it for you? dog business? Are you from Armenia, as I understand it?
                        - Still troll, sir? wink
                        - nude nude yes

                        And the fact that the construction of these NPPs does not give special dividends to Russia, except for a ghostly geopolitical influence, the construction of these NPPs is not an economic necessity, but a desire to have an impact on these countries. My statements about the illusory nature of Russia's efforts to establish geopolitical influence with these methods testifies history itself. You can recall the President of Egypt, Anwar Sadat, and how he treated the Soviet Union, or you can recall the recent story of a downed Russian VKS aircraft in Syria. And these funds for the construction of nuclear power plants are taken from the budget of Russia, not a single company in the West or from China cannot offer a potential customer such chic terms on a deal. Russian pensions also come from the budget, the Pension Fund does not have so much money to pay pensions.
                        For your information, I am not a troll, our countries have broken up, but I am not indifferent to problems in Russia, because my country is closely connected with Russia, and any deterioration in the economic situation in Russia immediately affects Armenia.
                      2. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 July 2016 19: 32
                        -1
                        Quote: razmik72
                        I am not indifferent to problems in Russia

                        - ABOUT HOW belay

                        Quote: razmik72
                        my country is closely connected with Russia, and any deterioration in the economic situation in Russia immediately affects Armenia

                        - aaaaa ... well, then I see. In Russian it is called "selfish interest"

                        You see:

                        - "About NPP" - not everything is so simple there, apparently.
                        - You also need to maintain the NPP while it is operating, you did not know? Well Duc, I’m bringing it - it’s necessary, no way without it
                        - in the nuclear power plants TVELs need to be suwed. If possible - relatives. Here they stuck the big-eyes there, from Westinghouse - a boom to see how it calms down more heartily
                        - about the "plane in Syria" - Don't you think the story is not over yet? For some reason it seems to me

                        Quote: razmik72
                        the construction of these NPPs does not give special dividends to Russia, except for a ghostly geopolitical influence, the construction of these NPPs is not an economic necessity, but a desire to have an impact on these countries. My allegations about the illusory nature of Russia's efforts to establish geopolitical influence with these methods are evidenced by history itself.

                        - yes you ... geopoliteg laughing

                        Okay. You understand yes
                3. VICTOR-61
                  VICTOR-61 4 July 2016 15: 23
                  -3
                  I completely agree with you. Our views coincide with you
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 4 July 2016 14: 20
              0
              And who didn’t wait for us to enter, but rallied himself and entered "Paradise" - to wait for something from the state is the last thing.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 4 July 2016 19: 39
                +2
                And you tell about grandfather machines. Where did he communize them?
                No need to wait for favors from nature ... ugh, state? smile
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 5 July 2016 14: 30
                  0
                  He did not uncommit them, but bought in 94 at a pilot plant - the production of drilling and oil and gas equipment.
          2. Suhov
            Suhov 4 July 2016 11: 57
            +2
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - lost a lot? Sorry...
            - I've not lost a penny. I live "off the wheels", from paycheck to paycheck, saving ...

            And I Lost! Not much, but still ... smile
            I never believed the state. And it once again confirmed the correctness of my approach. smile
            I never had any special money, but I tried to create some reserves just in case to learn children.
            The part that was in wooden turned into dust immediately. what
            And the one that is always green has already ended. yes
            Although education seems to be free and the children study on a budget, money is needed a lot. smile
            It is this fact that infuriates me.
            The fact that the state unceremoniously confuses the pockets: mine and mine. yes
            And every time he tries to solve his shoals at the expense of his citizens, and not the very wealthiest ones. hi
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 4 July 2016 12: 16
              +1
              Quote: Sukhov
              And I Lost! Not much, but still ... but in order to learn the children I tried to create some reserves just in case

              - mdya ... sympathize, really ...

              Quote: Sukhov
              It is this fact that infuriates me. The fact that the state unceremoniously confuses the pockets: mine and mine

              What can I say:

              - no one's pockets were confused by the "state"
              - it just "forgot" to warn you
              - on the other hand - estimate what would have happened if it had warned ... it would not only warn you
              - Where would the people rush right there? That's right ... to the exchanger ...
              - I would take off in a buck belay , and with him just "fought"

              In short:

              - I do not condone anyone. I’m just usually trying to get out of place with people who made this or that decision.
              - in the situation that was in the fall-winter of 2014 - I would definitely not have come up with anything better
              - I’m stupid and probably not talented, just like our government sad

              Voooot request
              1. Suhov
                Suhov 4 July 2016 14: 17
                +2
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                - in the situation that was in the fall-winter of 2014 - I would definitely not have come up with anything better

                I agree. yes
                I remember the situation when, in a hurry, the ruble was untied from the dollar, including in order to punish speculative foreign capital, which, under the action of sanctions, rushed back, and since it entered / exited in dollars and the shares of our enterprises were bought / sold in wooden. Only in this operation (a sharp depreciation of the ruble) speculators coolly heated. This is understandable and I welcome it. wassat
                The problem is that they also heated me, but I don’t like it. repeat
                You can understand and forgive once, twice ... but regularly leave this unanswered, sorry ...
                The Union collapsed also due to the fact that the leaders did not take into account the interests of their citizens. They helped all progressive humanity, and they did not give a damn about their people.
                And when the Union began to crumble, few rose to its defense. hi
              2. Suhov
                Suhov 4 July 2016 14: 36
                0
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                - mdya ... sympathize, really ...

                hi
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 July 2016 14: 16
          0
          Mostly speculators clean your pocket - speculation is part of a market economy.
  10. kepmor
    kepmor 4 July 2016 08: 38
    +5
    Bank capitalization is, of course, good.
    Only for some reason a rhetorical question arises, and at the same time constantly - "where is the money, Dim" ?!
    To the point that they are "capitalized in the money-boxes", the economy was sitting on a monetary "suction", and is sitting!
    Our branch of the US Federal Reserve, the Central Bank of Russia, is so "successful" in fighting inflation that the standard of living of 90% of the population has declined slightly, and in others at times! But the remaining 10% have become fabulously rich.
    They are afraid to carry out money emission, they say all the money will go to currency speculation, which will finish off our "wooden" one finally ... but let me ask, "why the hell do we need such a government and all this power in general, if it cannot establish elementary order on that Or maybe it doesn't need it? And who are the main players - the "speculators" in this "state casino" will be? Announce the list, please!
    To bring the brothel arrived, it is necessary not to rearrange the beds, but to change the girls ...
  11. weksha50
    weksha50 4 July 2016 08: 40
    +2
    "Nevertheless, I would like for such a benevolent domestic reporting and no less benevolent forecasts for the GDP of the Russian Federation from the side of foreign “partners” to translate into a real good for ordinary Russians... But people still distinguish feeding with numbers from the Internet from feeding themselves with food from the refrigerator ... "...

    We do not need THEIR praise and "positive" forecasts ...
    In the 90s, when the population of Russia was catastrophically and dynamically slipping into poverty, THEY also excitedly talked about how superbly "crap" changes were going in Russia both in the political and state structure and in the economy ...

    No supposedly positive-bravura forecast reports from DAM and members of his government are also needed ...
    First of all, WE see and feel it on ourselves in terms of salaries and prices - a rise or not a rise in the economy ...
    We do not make noise, do not moan, do not call for a counter-revolution, but we don’t want to hang noodles on our ears either ...
  12. Leto
    Leto 4 July 2016 08: 44
    +11
    What kind of growth can we talk about? About rising prices for gasoline, utilities, food, medicine, yes, they are growing ... There is reason for optimists to rejoice.

    PS: In a country in which fighters with internal and external enemies already on graduation from the academy have the opportunity to arrange rallies in luxury cars, there simply cannot be a bright future.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 4 July 2016 09: 05
      +4
      Quote: Leto
      What kind of growth can we talk about? About the increase in prices for gasoline, utilities, products, medicines, yes, they are growing ...


      The government and the Duma have already officially announced a decision to freeze budget expenditures for three (!!!) years !!!

      Is that from the joy of growth ???
      How is it necessary not to respect their people, due to which they live, consider them a brainless herd and hang them, hang noodles on their ears daily ???

      Our people would much more likely understand if they would openly say: yes, we have problems ... The reasons are that and that ... So and so will be done to eliminate them .. Well, our people are not in the first to tighten their belts for the good of the Fatherland ... But people do not need to lie !!!

      That's when they will not report aloud about insignificant successes, and keep silent about huge failures, but will work and not talk - then we can talk about the growth of the economy ... But - in the prognostic respect ...
      1. Leto
        Leto 4 July 2016 11: 58
        +2
        Quote: weksha50
        Our people would much more likely understand if they openly said: yes, we have problems ... The reasons are that and that ...

        Here you are naive. Openly declare that the cause of the problems is their total theft and absolute incompetence?
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 4 July 2016 21: 23
          +1
          Quote: Leto
          Here you are naive.


          My naivety sank into oblivion back in the late 90s ...

          But seriously, I’ve tried to make young people who prayed at EBN say that all this is a show that will lead to ruin ...

          But then I only guessed, and then the realities of life - convinced ...

          Naive ... Do you remember the bonds of the state loan (well, at least with your parents, did you see grandparents?), Which the state issued in difficult times ... That is, the people gave the state a long, almost free loan, due to this, the state was restored after the war. ..

          And the state paid them to the children and grandchildren of the owners somewhere in the 80s ...

          Yes, it was a hijack ... But a more or less honest hijack (if any), through which agricultural production was restored ...

          So what I was trying to say ...
    2. guzik007
      guzik007 4 July 2016 12: 11
      0
      What kind of growth can we talk about? About rising prices for gasoline, utilities, food, medicine, yes, they are growing ... There is reason for optimists to rejoice.
      -------------------------------------------------- ------
      Well, you still do not understand? Rising prices are growing fat producer. The producer is growing fat, the capitalization of production is improving, and the reporting is up.
      Here recently, our prezik (local-RT) was very concerned, as it is, says, Panimash, more and more people are released in the republic, and people who are ungrateful are buying less and less. And outlined a new goal. To achieve, says, in the shortest possible time the increase in the purchasing power of the entrusted population
      True, he did not specify how exactly.
  13. Tulip
    Tulip 4 July 2016 09: 09
    +3
    And suddenly a rather unexpected change in "partner" rhetoric. From the latest publications of Western economists, as well as rating and credit agencies, it turns out that now these “partners” are ready to admit the fact of certain positive changes in the Russian economic environment.

    You know, to me, as a comm, this article is even somewhat impressive. As a result of reading it, I am once again convinced of the correctness of the statement of Mr. Ulyanov from Simbirsk that it is the economy that determines the policy of any state. In this case, one can observe how the unprofitability of economic pressure on a sufficiently strong and self-confident state makes our opponents turn on the back.
  14. kirgudu
    kirgudu 4 July 2016 09: 41
    +5
    Maybe there are all kinds of reports beautiful, maybe analysts predict. Only this does not concern ordinary citizens, as the Bear said. There is no money, but you hold on!

    1. razmik72
      razmik72 4 July 2016 09: 51
      +1
      There is money, they simply are not retired.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 July 2016 14: 25
        0
        For that, there is money for the defense industry.
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 4 July 2016 17: 34
          +2
          Quote: Vadim237
          For that, there is money for the defense industry.

          And on a Rolls Royce and 10 apartments in the Stalinist skyscraper Shuvalov.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 July 2016 19: 36
            0
            So he is alone, and there are millions of pensioners.
        2. kirgudu
          kirgudu 4 July 2016 19: 33
          0
          The defense industry gives an impetus to all heavy industry, another matter whose interests it will protect.
          Well, as correctly noted, gold officials and leaders of large structures do much more harm than she does. Moreover, export orders for equipment skyrocketed.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 5 July 2016 14: 32
            0
            People have only one interest in this area - work.
  15. GOGY
    GOGY 4 July 2016 09: 46
    +8
    The beginning of growth? Well, well ... While the economy is "ruled" by the Ulyukaevs, Nabiullins and other "chicks of Kudrin's nest", the growth of our economy can be expected with the same success as the whistle of cancer on one mountain ... : "There is no money, but you are holding on", only he said this not to pensioners of Crimea, but to all of us, forgetting to add the truth - "... and there will not be ..." I am also sure that he received a scolding for too long a language, but the word is not a sparrow ... One should learn about the success of the economy from trips around the country, going to shops and markets, Comrade Stalin would be good if he learned about the growth of the Soviet economy from the ratings of Western agencies. Madhouse ... fool
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 4 July 2016 15: 02
      -6
      Quote: GOGY
      Comrade Stalin would have been nice if he had learned about the growth of the Soviet economy from ratings of Western agencies. Madhouse ...

      And then the Stalinist ... where did you get so much from?))) Forget it like a dream, Stalin has been feeding your worms for a long time ... thank God.
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 4 July 2016 09: 50
    +4
    Here is the growth of their expenses in stores and in the market,
    as well as utilities, services, etc. I clearly see
    probably the government and EP are looking at a different angle.
  17. bytkeev
    bytkeev 4 July 2016 10: 00
    0
    it will be possible to speak about positive changes in the economy when the volume of products sold will be a plus ...
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 4 July 2016 12: 33
      +1
      Quote: bytkeev
      it will be possible to speak about positive changes in the economy when the volume of products sold will be a plus ...

      And now the products sold are in the red?)))) What kind of nonsense ...))))
  18. Sergey333
    Sergey333 4 July 2016 10: 17
    +1
    Quote: Igor39
    Well, I say when they hang noodles on the ears, the main thing is that people would believe

    For the gifted, I explain that we ourselves aggravate any crisis by disbelief in the Russian economy: bankers withdraw capital abroad, industrialists cut wages to workers, speculators wind up prices for goods and all this is enough rumors and gossip spread by dishonest media.
    1. Pitot
      Pitot 4 July 2016 10: 47
      -2
      Or maybe it's time to return to the USSR? At the same time, the bankers in Solovki should be seated at the post and canceled their accounts abroad (so that they forgive them, they returned them from where they were taken and life was left to them, but not freedom), industrialists felled with truncated soldering, speculators sent abroad irrevocably (together with all relatives) with the return of funds to the budget of those cities where they horrified residents ....
      1. Al1977
        Al1977 4 July 2016 13: 57
        0
        Quote: Pitot
        Or maybe it's time to return to the USSR?

        Go to Belarus. Nothing has changed there.
    2. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 4 July 2016 12: 17
      +3
      For the "especially gifted", I explain, who will believe in it, when the "government" itself gives loot to the West at a meager percentage, instead of investing in its economy? Who will believe in it when the Ulyukayevs are at the helm with nabiulins, which "work" according to the recipe of the US Federal Reserve and the IMF? Who will believe in it, when, instead of laws that facilitate the work and life of the Russian and all other peoples of Russia, the State Duma is either blue. Or pink colors, then how many stinging bees to release, so that God forbid sting a delaput, then "planned" tariffs raise, so that "kids on" porsh "and different" wagens "from 3 lamas and above, shouting" banzai "across Russia rode (appetites are growing, and it is time for the" grandchildren "to take care of them). There are still a lot of examples" for especially gifted " show. But ordinary people, not "especially gifted", have long been clear.
  19. Kenneth
    Kenneth 4 July 2016 10: 51
    -7
    I read the comments and did not understand what claims to the news that the Russian economy is showing growth. It would be better if she continued to fall.?
    1. kirgudu
      kirgudu 4 July 2016 12: 15
      +2
      The claims are that the Russian economy shows growth solely in the news and pockets of Chubais, Gref, Sechin and other honest companies. Ordinary people - a candy on the cheek and ...
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 4 July 2016 12: 43
        +1
        You about statistics, and you about your personal problems. In any case, GDP growth is better than falling.
    2. Al1977
      Al1977 4 July 2016 12: 58
      -1
      Quote: Kenneth
      I read the comments and did not understand what claims to the news that the Russian economy is showing growth. It would be better if she continued to fall.?

      Rosstat data indicate a fall in the economy.
      Investors are also running: http://www.rbc.ru/finances/04/07/2016/57766af39a794721d67d1ad4?from=main
  20. VladimS
    VladimS 4 July 2016 10: 54
    +1
    Quote: cobalt
    cash flows should revolve in the economy, not bankers in the bosom

    Why do they need the risk of real production, loan defaults ..? It’s easier to speculate on the stock exchange ...
    And this, which is characteristic, is not only with us. Volumes are not comparable. That's how their GDP grows, from nothing.
  21. vector96
    vector96 4 July 2016 11: 09
    +5
    the rich get richer
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    2. kirgudu
      kirgudu 4 July 2016 12: 32
      0
      The main features and requirements of the basic economic law of modern capitalism could be formulated in approximately the following way: maximizing capitalist profits by exploiting, ruining and impoverishing the majority of the population of a given country, by enslaving and systematically robbing the peoples of other countries, especially backward countries, and finally by wars militarization of the national economy, used to ensure the highest profits.
  22. Al1977
    Al1977 4 July 2016 11: 42
    +1
    Everything is calculated, everything works like a clock with us:
    Wood is sold, oil is sold, gas is sold,
    Large transactions are concluded with foreigners,
    And large streams of finance flow from everywhere to us.
    The country has not seen such a rise for many years
    There is something to be proud of, there is simply no money.
    (C. Slepakov)
  23. Forever so
    Forever so 4 July 2016 11: 51
    +1
    Sustainable industry growth is taking place at such low interest rates because the corporate-clan vertical continues to be built. At the same time, small and medium-sized businesses are destroyed or absorbed, using their business ideas. This is the first stage, and it essentially does not provide for an industrial explosion. But when the Clans realize themselves, when relations will be built between them and between them and the state. And for the normal operation of the clan-corporate system, democracy is not suitable)) We need a tsar-amparator, as a guarantor and stabilizer, really funny)) ?? Well, after the formation of this whole system, the revival of small and medium-sized businesses will begin within the framework of the clan-corporate system. And here Russia has several more stages of accelerators in its development. So, whatever the American and gay rating agencies are trundles, they simply do not understand what is happening. Russia will rise in any conditions !!))
  24. kirgudu
    kirgudu 4 July 2016 12: 10
    +1
    Improving life from July 1st.
    Housing and utilities + 4%
    Fuel - HZ, Euro5 is now a minimum.

    And this will pull up prices for all goods and services. Just something, pensions and salaries are not growing.
  25. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 4 July 2016 12: 32
    +1
    After the nationalization of the Central Bank (dismissal of Nabiullina and the capitalist ministers).
    1. kirgudu
      kirgudu 4 July 2016 12: 46
      -1
      These boyars suit the king. You look and Redhead will be back soon ...
      1. Al1977
        Al1977 4 July 2016 13: 30
        +1
        Quote: kirgudu
        These boyars suit the king. You look and Redhead will be back soon ...

        Did he go somewhere? And why is Red for you worse than Shuvalov, for example?
        1. kirgudu
          kirgudu 6 July 2016 12: 08
          0
          Yes, nothing. It’s just that he began to declare here, supposedly with pleasure he will help the government to reform and privatize the remains.
  26. akudr48
    akudr48 4 July 2016 13: 03
    0
    Western friends and partners predict the beginning of the end of the fall. And then there will be a rise. This is good, encouraging.

    But only, considering these ends and beginnings as business processes, as they say, at first it would be nice to find the beginning of the end with which this beginning ends.
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  28. Bort radist
    Bort radist 4 July 2016 15: 54
    +1
    I apologize not for the topic: Vacation !!! At 3 a.m. I will start in the direction of the Kuzbas-Altai highway. Barnaul - Biysk - Belokurikha KPM. I look like in the taiga - I miss you.
  29. Symphony
    Symphony 4 July 2016 16: 00
    +1
    I have heard this nonsense for 20 years.
  30. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 4 July 2016 16: 26
    +2
    Well yes - economic growth ...
    The ruble fell by half, and agriculture grew by 3,3% - oh, what a good result ...

    The economic growth during the collapse of the ruble by 100% - was supposed to (by the logic of the government) grow by 30-40% due to exports.
    But again they miscalculated - very few of the Russian goods satisfy the quality abroad.
    For example, from Russian goods, I saw toys Masha and the Bear made by franchisees in China.
    Well done - at least our cartoons over the hill already know!
    But with other goods - everything is bad.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 4 July 2016 17: 31
      +2
      Quote: DimerVladimer
      Well yes - economic growth ...
      The ruble fell by half, and agriculture grew by 3,3% - oh, what a good result ...

      The economic growth during the collapse of the ruble by 100% - was supposed to (by the logic of the government) grow by 30-40% due to exports.
      But again they miscalculated - very few of the Russian goods satisfy the quality abroad.
      For example, from Russian goods, I saw toys Masha and the Bear made by franchisees in China.
      Well done - at least our cartoons over the hill already know!
      But with other goods - everything is bad.

      No, you misunderstood the logic of government.
      Our people, whose sense of patriotism has grown to sky-high peaks, should buy everything OUR. Let it be of inferior quality, expensive, but OUR, for so we will revive Russia.
      Shuvalovs and other houses in England will also be bought by Rolls-Royces, FSB graduates ride on heliks .. and a Russian man should pick up a plow, plow the ground in his bast shoes and not bark .. Otherwise ... it's scary to think, if not our chenushi, then The West will destroy us !!!
      Here is the logic. The path of global competition is not ours. Give the USSR and the Iron Curtain. Give me some shoes for everyone and a hat with our earflaps ... patriotic !!!
  31. yuriy55
    yuriy55 4 July 2016 16: 59
    0
    The Russian economy is predicted to start growing this year.
    recourse
    If Stalin ruled, then even 250 eggs were collected from Chubais and Serdyukov annually, and 5000 liters of milk from Vasiliev laughing
    Prophesy, maybe wait for a honey pot from a sleeping bear ... wassat
  32. epsilon571
    epsilon571 4 July 2016 21: 42
    0
    How can you talk about economic growth when there is still no real statistics in the country? You will not find adequate research on the Rosstat website even for this six months. Sheer lies and brainwashing. Pay attention to real life, here it is:

    Families with many children on the waiting list went on hunger strike, promised by the state. apartments go to no one knows where; in Karelia, children died because of the greed of Moscow officials and slovenliness; football players who shamefully failed the "Euro Cup" receive huge dividends; the highest military personnel were dispersed in the Baltic; products for the population are made from shit, no one controls the quality, and government officials who signed contracts with Western companies wanted to sneeze on import substitution, they get huge kickbacks for this; hospitals are closed and impoverished, cemeteries are getting richer; prices for food and fuel are growing, and the reform of housing and communal services is bringing ordinary people "to the handle" ...

    What are you talking about at all gentlemen, the economy of the country today is on the verge of collapse, and if nothing is changed, then soon there will be nothing to talk about!
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 5 July 2016 10: 49
      0
      Quote: epsilon571
      What are you talking about at all gentlemen, the economy of the country today is on the verge of collapse, and if nothing is changed, then soon there will be nothing to talk about!

      When is this coming soon?
      And why did you decide that?
      Our neighbors have significantly less resources and capabilities - and are still alive.
      Yes, the people will get poorer, well, they will get used to it. In the end, "they did not live rich, they do not start")))
      Is happiness in money ?! You know that the main thing is that we have a sovereign foreign policy. This is the most important thing for me, for you, for everyone. The main thing is to protect the interests of Gazprom, Rosneft and others in the external arena !!!!! That's what we should strive for, and we are ... infantrymen of these goals, which should be very happy and madly proud of it !!!!
  33. Lyubopyatov
    Lyubopyatov 4 July 2016 21: 55
    -1
    The dollar rate is getting lower -
    hence the war is getting closer.
  34. Undermined ustoev
    Undermined ustoev 4 July 2016 22: 54
    -1
    Well, now we will definitely live! The Rottenberg law, Mikhalkov and others like them will be canceled, the minimum wage will be raised to the "average temperature in the hospital" and equalized with the subsistence level, an annual indexation of salaries on the inflation index + percentage of labor productivity gains, which is mandatory by law for all employers, with criminal prosecution up to execution and confiscation all property, including family and immediate relatives, in the event of a gross violation of the indexing rule, will begin to pay salaries at cost, and so on.