Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: "The German Minister of War does not reach ..."

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The Russian Ministry of Defense responded to statements by German Defense Minister Ursula Gertrude von der Lyayen that Moscow should inform Berlin about the movements of its troops as part of various military training events. The Russian military department noted that, apparently, the information sent by Moscow to Berlin did not reach Ms. von der Lyayen, otherwise she would have known that the Russian Federation had already warned Germany and her colleagues for several years NATO on training for military exercises conducted by the Armed Forces, and reports on their progress.

From a statement by Major General Igor Konashenkov, representing management press service and information of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
The statements of the head of the German defense ministry at least surprise us. Perhaps she simply does not know that we have been initiative, in good faith, for more than two years, we have been notifying our European partners through various channels of all sudden checks and major exercises, which, in accordance with the Vienna agreements, are not obliged to do.


Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: "The German Minister of War does not reach ..."


Igor Konashenkov commented on the statements of the German official about the “defensive character” of the North Atlantic military bloc.
The press service cites a statement by a representative of the Russian military department who commented on the connection between the words about the defensive nature of NATO and the bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999:

Will the Minister of War of Germany, Ursula von der Lyayen, be able to explain to the whole world from whom there (in Yugoslavia) has the alliance defended itself and not sparing ammunition?


There are plenty of such "defensive" operations on the NATO account: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya. Now Washington "pulls up" NATO colleagues "to defend" in Syria ...
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  1. +87
    27 June 2016 06: 58
    Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?
    1. +16
      27 June 2016 07: 16
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?

      Like, Min Defense warns, slow-thinking is life-threatening?
      And so depending on where. At the borders and in the seas it is necessary
      1. +7
        27 June 2016 07: 31
        Yes, in any case, you need to warn .. And then hot heads can lift kipish ..
        1. +27
          27 June 2016 08: 38
          During the notification, while our name will be spoken to by Ursula von der nah .... etc., the teachings are coming to an end ............. laughing
          1. +18
            27 June 2016 09: 04
            It's great, after all, that a potential adversary is controlled by horseradish-knows-who in skirts.

            Now, if we see there a balanced, low-speaking warrior, then we will need to scratch our turnips.

            It’s not worth relaxing, but why give up free clowning?
            1. +40
              27 June 2016 09: 20
              German Minister of Defense Ursula von der Leyen made a liberal fascist attack against Russia on the front of a hybrid war on behalf of the EU and NATO, led by the Pentagon in the interests of Great Britain and the United States.
              Igor Kanashenkov on behalf of Russia gave her a decent answer. He quite reasonably “dipped her nose”, together with her Germany, into the pseudo-defensive contents of NATO’s true affairs - not only in Europe, but also beyond its borders.
              Konashenkov well done! I answered correctly!
              1. +5
                27 June 2016 10: 22
                Igor Kanashenkov on behalf of Russia gave her a decent answer. ,,
                I, in fact, have doubts that it was worth this lady to answer. For such a person this is a compliment, but she is worthy of her? Her job is ... to drop in (I apologize to the ladies), and not discuss such things.
                1. +8
                  27 June 2016 11: 40
                  kotlov
                  I, in fact, have doubts about what cost this lady to answer.
                  Ha! Well, you, Vladimir, give! And she is not a "lady", but she is an official of the FRG Ministry of Defense - a US colony, whose territory is packed with military bases and NATO armed forces under the leadership of the Pentagon!
                  And then the "lady" -that ?! This "lady" is only a liberal pro-American pseudo-democratic "decoration", "screen", "candy wrapper" to divert the eyes from those individuals who stand behind her! In history, this is the usual well-known psychological trick in political technologies - by his devoted lady "speaking teeth" to her opponent and manipulating the consciousness of the masses.
            2. +2
              29 June 2016 09: 37
              Moreover, "commanders-in-chief in skirts" are not only women ...
          2. 0
            28 June 2016 17: 44
            +100500! The teachings are already over ...
        2. +11
          27 June 2016 09: 12
          we say: said like a pond in a puddle .....)))

          1. +10
            27 June 2016 13: 18
            Quote: OlegV
            we say: said like a pond in a puddle .....)))


            Well, what can you take from a gynecologist who has become Minister of Defense
            1. +4
              27 June 2016 16: 28
              Quote: Koshak
              Quote: OlegV
              we say: said like a pond in a puddle .....)))


              Well, what can you take from a gynecologist who has become Minister of Defense



              That's right. Gynecologist - she is a gynecologist. And immediately everyone understands where to send her.
          2. +14
            27 June 2016 14: 33
            and ours is all here soldier
            1. 0
              29 June 2016 13: 54
              laughing "Frau, where are you climbing !? This is a Euro-tent! Only for" real "Euro-men !!! laughing
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        4. +2
          28 June 2016 17: 43
          It should be mutual - we warn NATa, NATa warns us. Otherwise - why throw beads in front of pigs?
      2. +5
        27 June 2016 10: 26
        Yes, we did not understand Frau.
        All she knows is that we are notifying her. She needs more - routes, numbers, numbers in \ h., Passwords, appearances ...

        Generally nemchura overgrown.
      3. +6
        27 June 2016 12: 02
        They all know perfectly well, just behind a puddle Uncle Sam ticks off those who say more foolishness. Yankees are no longer perceived as "the ultimate truth", but have exhausted themselves in fantasies, they are looking for "new", and let the "six" -but and at night they repeat the old blanks. lol
      4. +3
        27 June 2016 17: 27
        I’m very interested if the gynecologist will be able to disintegrate his army. Or are furniture makers really cooler than doctors?
    2. +3
      27 June 2016 07: 41
      Yes nafig they are needed! let them sit and think! "What else will these crazy Russians throw out" !!!!
      1. +16
        27 June 2016 07: 53
        Will the Minister of War of Germany, Ursula von der Lyayen, be able to explain to the whole world from whom there (in Yugoslavia) has the alliance defended itself and not sparing ammunition?

        That's right, so their ... muzzle in a puddle ...
      2. Darkoff
        +6
        27 June 2016 07: 57
        They do not sit and think, but actively set their electorate to confront with Russia.
        Why do we need extra reasons for this?
    3. +7
      27 June 2016 08: 50
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?

      Yes, she’s not stubborn - the same as our Taburetkin. Maybe it just doesn’t steal. What is the use of explaining to the gynecologist any defense-offensive concepts there? I would have sat and was silent. I always say: "If you don't know what to say, keep quiet. Maybe you will pass for a smart one." No, every paramedic needs to speak out on global military-political issues ... An economist-gynecologist, damn it .... I have never seen such a "versatile outlook" in our military either in Soviet or democratic times. Taburetkin even sold sofas, but this one ... The gynecologist commands the army - laughter! Only the American commander of the ground forces is funnier ...
      Education.
      After graduating from high school in Lörth, Ursula von der Leyen in 1977 continued her education at the universities of Göttingen, Münster, where she studied economics. In 1978, she attended classes at the London School of Economics and Political Science. She studied medicine at the Hannover Medical School, which she graduated in 1987 with passing the state exam and testing as a doctor.

      From 1988 to 1992, she worked as an assistant doctor in the gynecological department of the University Hospital Hanover. At the end of graduate school in 1991, Ursula von der Leyen defended her thesis for the title of Doctor of Medicine. From 1992 to 1996, she and her family were in Stanford, California, where her husband worked as a teacher at Stanford University.

      In 1998-2002, she worked as a lecturer in the Department of Epidemiology, Social Medicine and Health Research at the Hannover Medical School, where in 2001 she received a master's degree in public health
    4. +16
      27 June 2016 09: 17
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?

      Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen is a provocateur. And the highest test ...
      Such statements from the German Defense Minister fit well into the mainstream of anti-Russian hysteria like "... we asked them, but they don't want to hear us ...". And it is unlikely that serious German publications will quote the words of Igor Konashenkov in the form in which they sounded.
    5. 0
      27 June 2016 10: 33
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?

      --------------------
      Is it worth it to warn ministers of defense, education gynecologists? Accustomed to feel in a dark place, let them feel.
    6. +1
      27 June 2016 12: 01
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?

      I also don’t understand why, for several years now, the Russian Federation has been warning Germany and its NATO colleagues about preparations for military exercises conducted by the Russian Armed Forces, and reports on their progress.
      Perhaps it would be understood if they had warned of exercises conducted in sufficient proximity (for example, 100-150 km) from the borders of NATO member countries.
    7. 0
      27 June 2016 13: 18
      Good question. It seems to me that it is worth warning only if it comes to ICBM launches. On the other hand, who needs it and so a little earlier, a little later they will find out.
    8. msm
      msm
      0
      27 June 2016 18: 24
      And, is it worth it to be surprised at their pearls? It’s time to - at least show the fig. And then everything is unanswered, but we are only surprised and surprised ...
    9. 0
      27 June 2016 22: 32
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?

      Considering the level of sanity of NATO generals - it is necessary! To entrust such, if I may say "generals" the NATO armed forces, is like entrusting a combat grenade to a monkey (not in the sense of Obama). In short, Russia has to show additional concern for world peace
    10. 0
      27 June 2016 22: 51
      This is a lady, seer! .. bully
    11. 0
      28 June 2016 17: 32
      In June 41st they did not warn us.
    12. 0
      29 June 2016 13: 57
      Yes it is! Only if they are so inattentive to our notifications, can the real picture not be reported at all? Let them look further past!
  2. +2
    27 June 2016 06: 59
    Giraffe comes a long time if she is still a female.
    1. +5
      27 June 2016 07: 11
      Quote: avvg
      Giraffe comes a long time if she is still a female.

      she is a gynecologist. Waits for 9 months, and then reads
  3. +7
    27 June 2016 06: 59
    Well what can I say - DBL BLD! ..
  4. +20
    27 June 2016 07: 00
    "for some strange reason, the information sent by Moscow to Berlin does not reach Ms. von der Leyen"

    She just "doesn't get it." Yes
  5. +7
    27 June 2016 07: 04
    tougher with the Fritz. how many nasty things from them over the past couple of years.
    1. +9
      27 June 2016 08: 07
      I would say: "Over the last 100 years ... 200 years ... 300 years ... 400 years ... 1000 years .... and it will all be true! bully
  6. +12
    27 June 2016 07: 04
    what can we talk about at all, a woman she is a woman, but the Fritz was shredded, Bismarck probably turned over in his grave ...
    1. +5
      27 June 2016 07: 13
      Yeah, you warn us in advance about the exercises, so that we can put on diapers in advance!) Not that Fritz has already gone ...

      But our battalion commander twisted it back,
      Having kicked off the Urals!
  7. +2
    27 June 2016 07: 06
    It is necessary ... it is not necessary ... But it is necessary to yell laughing
  8. +5
    27 June 2016 07: 07
    for more than two years now, we have been proactively, in good faith, informing through various channels of our European partners all sudden inspections and major exercises, which, in accordance with the Vienna agreements, are not required to be done.

    If not required, then nehren and warn. Let them shake with fear !!!, You look and they will pour less dirt on Russia!
  9. +3
    27 June 2016 07: 08
    Today's article is a continuation of yesterday's banquet? Cool yesterday, had fun on this subject. The soul asks for a holiday and positive in the morning, despite the fact that it is Monday. wassat
    1. +3
      27 June 2016 07: 14
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      Today's article is a continuation of yesterday's banquet? Cool yesterday, had fun on this subject. The soul asks for a holiday and positive in the morning, despite the fact that it is Monday.

      Bunsch's house manager was right: "I demand the continuation of the banquet !!!" laughing
      1. +8
        27 June 2016 07: 21
        Lukich (4) SU

        Still right.
        And the sutra is in a good mood to serve the sovereign. Thank you to our Defense Ministry and personally to Major General Konashenkov for the positive.
        1. +5
          27 June 2016 08: 17
          I'm just at a loss. On the part of Russia, specific, intelligible questions and answers. From the west, there is always a hysterical screech and delusional statements. Question. They pretend, or really DEB. BL
          1. +1
            27 June 2016 08: 36
            This is all in the spirit of tolerance, relevant behavioral characteristics ...
  10. +11
    27 June 2016 07: 13
    Ursula Gertrude von der Layen
  11. +3
    27 June 2016 07: 13
    Russia certainly does not "owe" anything to Germany.
  12. +14
    27 June 2016 07: 17
    I’m kind of like a pensioner, I live in Russia, and I learn about sudden inspections, up to the quantity and quality of the parts taking part in them, within a day from the media. I’m not talking about major exercises. Learn Great Russian and there will be no problems.
    1. +12
      27 June 2016 07: 28
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Learn Great Russian and there will be no problems.

      Well, or master the Internet. won psaki how many interesting things I learned through him. really forgot everything in the office laughing
  13. +5
    27 June 2016 07: 19
    They didn’t serve anyone in any way as Minister of Defense (it’s necessary to understand the specifics), so there is no profile formation. They would also have put a model on this post.
    1. +2
      27 June 2016 07: 30
      Quote: cth; fyn
      They would also have put a model on this post.

      but she would have been told everything. have you seen this minister? yes go to her report laughing
    2. +1
      28 June 2016 04: 57
      Yes, it will become with them. In any case, the voice of reason does not reach them.
  14. +7
    27 June 2016 07: 22
    My aunt climbed up to deal with Russia, and it turned out that she herself in Germany was not very much admitted by her own military to information. Just in case, so as not to mess up. And blurt out what, without thinking, - so with it is the same demand.
  15. +1
    27 June 2016 07: 28
    Yes, the hertagersuda’s just fucking, she’s just made up a reason, or our troops are waiting for a visit.
  16. +1
    27 June 2016 07: 28
    Cool walked Igor! Pretty boy!
  17. +3
    27 June 2016 07: 29
    Yes, everything comes to her, it is necessary to show the people that she (they) are doing at least something, even if only in words, but they do not disregard "Russian aggression."
  18. +1
    27 June 2016 07: 52
    There is an old German principle denoting the role of a woman from a God-given cerebral content - kyuche, kinder, kirche .. In Russian it sounds something like this "Hit a woman with a hammer - a woman will be gold" ..
    1. +1
      27 June 2016 09: 15
      Quote: Angry 55
      In Russian it sounds something like "Hit a woman with a hammer - a woman will be gold" ..

      a woman with a cart, the mare is easier. translated into aglitsky, when a lady leaves a car, he increases his speed
      1. 0
        27 June 2016 21: 04
        In this interpretation, it should sound like this:
        A woman with a cart and the wolves are full!
  19. +1
    27 June 2016 07: 54
    Von der gynecologist stupidly not in the subject.
  20. +4
    27 June 2016 08: 01
    If Turkey is a NATO member - an accomplice of terrorists, then the whole of NATO is accomplices. Right Konashenkov smeared them with Yugoslavia.
  21. +1
    27 June 2016 08: 02
    Ah well done Igor, cool replied! Their mug poked into their own feces! These geyropeyskie puppets showed themselves completely brainless, which actually befits puppets, the brain is contraindicated to them
  22. +1
    27 June 2016 08: 03
    And the information does not reach her, and the meaning of what comes does not always "reach".
  23. +1
    27 June 2016 08: 07
    by gaining fools in aviation, then the planes fall)
  24. 0
    27 June 2016 08: 08
    This lady is so pressured by thongs in the nth place that all the information is simply squeezed out of this beautiful, sucking head. Fuck yourself blather, dove of peace!
  25. 0
    27 June 2016 08: 09
    What can I say - a woman at the helm. I have already said that they should not be allowed to do serious things and toys .....
  26. 0
    27 June 2016 08: 10
    The German Minister of Defense Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen probably starts the ICP. So she brings all nonsense. A woman what to take.
  27. +1
    27 June 2016 08: 11
    Let them be afraid. tongue
  28. +1
    27 June 2016 08: 11
    It’s just like an aunt framed, larger players. And she makes herself and tries to make all fools.
  29. +1
    27 June 2016 08: 29
    The hypocrisy of the gentlemen from NATO is already going wild. Isn’t it yourself disgusting?
  30. 0
    27 June 2016 08: 53
    Ursula von der Leyen must personally call, so that she could wash herself and look at the army and comb her hair lol
  31. 0
    27 June 2016 09: 03
    I don’t understand two things: what are these "gifted" people called partners, and why are they being told anything at all?
  32. +3
    27 June 2016 09: 22
    Since ancient times, Germans were considered a warlike nation, so their language (according to one version) is harsh, barking. The language of the teams. Degraded * warriors * if they made a madwoman a defense minister, allowed outrageous people who beat these warriors and rape their women .There is more evidence that Europe fails. America (like the whole world) zabamamuli it.
  33. +1
    27 June 2016 09: 30
    As a goodwill, we warn .... But why, who needs our goodwill? Do not warn anyone, do it suddenly and secretly. Let them learn about our teachings, when battle formations have already been deployed, and Russian soldiers go on a training attack ... Let them bounce off the beds.
  34. +1
    27 June 2016 10: 00
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?

    It is worth it for at least one reason: it is an element of information warfare. And it is worth doing this in the media, so that all news agencies will trumpet about it. Read strictly on a piece of paper, and not gag, so that they would not make cuts from the speech beneficial to the West. And then you get another "no money, but you hold on." laughing
  35. 0
    27 June 2016 10: 00
    It is also necessary to ask the Bosh for permission ... Starting from that year from 1941 ...
  36. +2
    27 June 2016 10: 11
    Ah, Frau Ursula, maybe you should work in health care in your specialty gynecologist? And my hands would have been warm.
    1. +1
      27 June 2016 15: 18
      Quote: Slon_on
      Ah, Frau Ursula, maybe you should work in health care in your specialty gynecologist?

      yes, better. and best of all at the ministry of defense. do abortions
  37. +1
    27 June 2016 10: 13
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?

    Worth it.
    And as an element of the information war: they have nothing to say. And then they will lie with three boxes with fright. And so they lie openly: "they weren't warned." Although they shouldn't. Now the Germans know that they were warned, their defense minister is stupid and lying at the same time.
    And to cool our heads: we are ready to fight back.
    Well, and again: so that they don’t press a button with a fright, when they see and hear our missiles.
  38. +1
    27 June 2016 10: 23
    The German War Minister began to speak up. I imagined that the Russian Army was already subordinate and accountable to it. Excuse me, citizen, and who are you? - And, in general, you did not stand here, observe the turn for petition.
  39. +1
    27 June 2016 10: 45
    Ursula bully Eurobig fool
  40. +3
    27 June 2016 10: 49
    Yes, Madame Chancellorin ... Once you have appointed your gynecologist as Minister of Defense, then, as the Iron Chancellor go to the end - appoint your hairdresser as Minister of Foreign Affairs, a manicure and pedicure minister as Minister of Industry and a masseur as the head of BND. And then such Germany will really be afraid.
  41. +3
    27 June 2016 11: 05
    Gynecologist - Minister of Defense? I immediately recall the Russian idiom about a worthless person -
    "[censored] ... not to the Red Army!" Well, you get the idea ... laughing
  42. 0
    27 June 2016 11: 10
    Well done Konashenkov, burns in the spirit of Comrade Churkin! These German sheaths must be upset at extremely long distances!
  43. +2
    27 June 2016 11: 27
    Germany fell ill with American dullness.
  44. +1
    27 June 2016 11: 50
    And I would arrange a telephone trolling for her ... About every movement of the squad, platoon, company to the bathhouse, to the sports ground, dining room, shooting range, she would immediately report to her personal phone ... After a couple of hours I would ask for mercy!)
  45. +1
    27 June 2016 12: 51
    After another war, they must be branded. Politicians.
    To create such a structure, after the next division of Germany, is already between China and Russia. So that the world knows who starts the war, put a stigma on their forehead! CAUTION! EVERY 100 YEARS UNLOCK WARS! So that no **** would have said and shown in the direction of Russia.
    These Democrats have been stigmatized throughout the history of their countries!
    Whoever has a short memory will receive one more muzzle.
    But they need to be stigmatized, it’s not getting into any gates.
    HOW MUCH can it be?
  46. +3
    27 June 2016 12: 58
    The Germans forget the years 1941-1945, again hang out near the Russian border, it’s time to give someone in the face.
  47. +1
    27 June 2016 13: 44
    Yes, the life of a gynecologist, a minister for combination is difficult. The profession is such ------

    Here's the women. German leucorrhoea.
    Flow from .... pppposteli (???)
    Blind her eyes
    ears, nostrils, brakes .....
    says the harlot
    To wash yourself in advance.
  48. +3
    27 June 2016 13: 47
    Here is a striking example of the ministers of defense of not a small part of the GEYROGEY union.
    Well, what can I say, chicken, she is a chicken in Germany too .... bully
    1. 0
      29 June 2016 10: 17
      "It is necessary to put a younger Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, otherwise Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu will not be able to cope with such a harem."
  49. +4
    27 June 2016 14: 10
    And so we are in the Tribaltics enough .... fool
    1. +1
      27 June 2016 21: 34
      Quote: Rock616
      And so we are in the Tribaltics enough .... fool


      some kind of hare)
  50. +2
    27 June 2016 14: 41
    Here is S U K A German !!!
  51. +1
    27 June 2016 15: 05
    stupid chicken... they will soon have buggers as ministers of defense...
  52. +1
    27 June 2016 16: 38
    Maybe he should still ask for time off to go to the toilet?
  53. +3
    27 June 2016 18: 15
    What can a gynecologist understand about military affairs?
    Although, God knows, it seems to me that in the Republic of Belarus there are only proctologists everywhere. No offense to proctologists.
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  55. +1
    27 June 2016 20: 25
    Why on earth should we do such favors?
    They don’t reciprocate, and they create a lot of problems that we don’t have time to brush aside.
  56. +1
    27 June 2016 20: 43
    ---Will German Minister of War Ursula von der Leyen be able to explain to the whole world from whom the alliance defended itself (in Yugoslavia) so selflessly and without sparing ammunition? CREDIT TO KONASHENKOV!!!
  57. +1
    27 June 2016 21: 13
    The Germans paid little for all the crimes they committed during World War II!
  58. 0
    28 June 2016 00: 54
    This is OUR country, OUR Land, OUR territory, fuck you, I conduct maneuvers wherever I want...
  59. Erg
    0
    28 June 2016 08: 29
    Quote: Koshak
    Well, what can you take from a gynecologist who has become Minister of Defense

    You shouldn't be doing that, my friend - for the frenzied European army, a gynecologist is much more relevant than a proctologist. wassat You'll see - soon they will have consultations in their "troops" ...
  60. 0
    28 June 2016 10: 35
    Everything is fine, my aunt changed her email and forgot to send a new one...
  61. 0
    28 June 2016 10: 53
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?

    Like, Min Defense warns, slow-thinking is life-threatening?
    And so depending on where. At the borders and in the seas it is necessary

    Everyone in the West knows, it’s not a matter of whether they know it or not. They are creating anti-Russian hysteria with all their might, and in a couple more years they will declare the Russian Federation a stronghold of world terrorism and unleash a new world meat grinder. Logically, everything is going exactly this way... Or there are real idiots in the government of the EU leaders, which is unlikely.
  62. 0
    28 June 2016 15: 12
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Is it worth it to warn the stubborn?


    It's worth it, it's worth it! And the more often, the better. Let them live in tension, maybe they will stop barking, or at least become less.
  63. 0
    28 June 2016 20: 35
    Trolling genius!
  64. +1
    29 June 2016 00: 41
    Well, everything is clear here, the NSA and other punks are in the way. To simplify matters, it is necessary to notify in the old fashioned way with a pennant from the TU-160 to your personal lawn.
  65. 0
    29 June 2016 10: 12
    And, in 1941, on June 22, these creatures warned us about a treacherous attack on the Soviet Union?
    In general, there is nothing to report to anyone about the movement of Russian troops.
    Let them shake in the new NATO apartment.
  66. +1
    29 June 2016 13: 48
    Didn’t the Boches start talking a lot, they became bolder, they didn’t remember the lessons of history, so let them sit and not clap their mouths. Moreover, some woman Ursula, I don’t know what’s next.
  67. 0
    29 June 2016 14: 11
    Let them sculpt whatever they want, we have long been accustomed to this. What if we have Shamans))