Erdogan decided to speak with the EU in the language of ultimatums

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Information Agency Anadolu publishes material telling about how the Turkish president is actually switching to the language of ultimatums in communication with the European Union. So, Erdogan, speaking at the University of Fatih Sultan Mehmet, said that the European Union should not hesitate and decide whether he is ready to see Turkey in its composition or not. According to the Turkish president, if the answer of the European Union is again postponed indefinitely, Ankara will organize a referendum and ask the Turkish population if it is ready to continue to fulfill European conditions for joining the EU, including the issue of curbing refugee flows.

Erdogan decided to speak with the EU in the language of ultimatums


Recep Tayyip Erdogan:
You never recognized the people of Turkey. We do not pursue visas and memberships at all. In Europe, thousands of refugees gathered in Edirne are afraid of 60 information. They fear that these migrants will cross the border between Bulgaria and Greece. At that moment, Turkey has already opened the door for 3 million refugees. Turkey appreciates people. Soon there will be a referendum in the UK. We are informed here that Turkey will be able to become a member of the EU no earlier than 3 of the thousandth year. Only Cameron at personal meetings said something quite different. Declared that London is near Ankara. You will see, Britain will not leave the EU.

Good. We will do what the British do. We will organize our referendum and ask: “Should we continue the negotiations on EU membership?” If our people say yes, then we will continue the process (of integration).

After all, I have repeatedly told Europeans: either you openly admit that you will not accept us into the European Union, or you end the negotiation process. ” Here are just the Europeans say neither yes nor no. And they need to think about who they will have a conversation with when millions of refugees stand at their doorsteps and knock on their door.


In fact, Erdogan makes it clear that if the European Union does not say “yes” to Turkey in the near future, the refugees accumulated on Turkish territory will rush to the European countries not without the help of official Ankara, causing another wave of migration chaos. Recall that for the containment of refugees Erdogan received 3 billion euros, the same amount the EU is going to transfer to Ankara in a short time.
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  1. +10
    23 2016 June
    Knocks money, but at the same time wants to Europe, bastard laughing .
    1. -2
      23 2016 June
      Ottomans ... orcs are thrown into the EU! But this will not work with Russia ...
      1. +28
        23 2016 June
        sure?

        We do not have a visa-free regime with Turkestan: the United States should set fire to Central Asia (there are extremely unstable regimes) and MILLIONS will trample to Russia. The Russian Federation and so on in the SECOND (after the USA) place in the world in the number of immigrants, moreover, non-Slavic roots and non-Christian religion, alien to Russian identity

        Modern MOSCOWABAD:
      2. +1
        23 2016 June
        It is difficult to say - the fifth column was activated, such as a bearded chubas, etc. Apparently, the loot received, the Judah, work out, skins .....
        1. +5
          23 2016 June
          the fifth column was activated because it was ALLOWED to activate!
        2. +3
          23 2016 June
          C. not the fifth column for

          (c) "The head of the board of the state company Rusnano, Anatoly Chubais, sold all the shares of foreign companies he had and transferred his personal funds to one of the Russian banks."
          those. adopted the rules of the game proposed by Vladimir Putin.
          1. 0
            23 2016 June
            but at the same time remained a member of the supervisory board of the largest American bank City Group
            1. +4
              23 2016 June
              people are able to settle in life
              only Morgan Bank: Since 2008 - Member of JP Morgan Chase, International Supervisory Board
              Rusnano website
    2. +8
      23 2016 June
      I repeat again: sobsno problem of the orocephals in stupidity and greed. The dumb thing is that they messed up the whole Middle East and North Africa. And greed is that they do not give perdogan money. Meanwhile, Turechchina money demands quite rightly. Simple arithmetic: to maintain one refugee you need 500 rubles a day - food, organization and maintenance of the territory, logistics, water carriers (water is not cheap), gamnososki, medical aid, bureaucracy and theft. Total about 7 oiro. For a million - 7 million. And there are 2-4 million. 2 million only officially in concentration camps for refugees. Contents 2 million - 5 yards oryro per year! For four years have they already been sitting there, and how much longer do they sit? So, the perdogan's appearances at 30 yards are not so unfounded. And after our VKS bombed the oil business of the perdogan and it seems that there is no longer any hope to repay investments due to indemnities after Assad’s removal, extortion remains in Europe. Either give money for maintenance, or take it for yourself, again for maintenance. Dead end.
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      5. +1
        23 2016 June
        Either give me money for maintenance, or take it for yourself,
        so he will make a feint for anyone. at least they will take him to the EU, although not, but the refugees will still be sent to Europe.
    3. +1
      23 2016 June
      And other nishtyaki.
      By the way, our "rulers" will be very glad to refugees. Not so long ago, some pepper (or pepper, I forgot about the mourner's floor) lamented how the lagers were empty because everyone was leaving to the west. After all, about 700 euros per month are allocated for one refugee; of these, a person receives about 40 euros in his hands. the rest goes to 'service' through the right firms. What money floats past your pocket ... am take it!
      PS In my opinion, Turkey will be accepted into the EU after Ukraine. As soon as possible.
      1. +4
        23 2016 June
        Quote: dzvero
        PS In my opinion, Turkey will be accepted into the EU after Ukraine. As soon as possible.

        But only at the time indicated by D. Cameron - no earlier than 3000 years)))
        In general, all this fuss with the referendum of Britain and the ultimatum of Turkey is aimed at preventing Europe from floundering about the need to prolong sanctions against Russia and not questioning them, as well as to make it more "compliant" in the gas issue. They beat the "old" from above and below.
        Erdogan, of course, takes on the excess, since in order to become a "full-fledged" outcast, he only has to completely spoil relations with Europe. Turkey's relations with all other neighbors are no worse than that.
        On the other hand, a huge hole has formed in his budget, which, apart from European money, has nothing more to do, and the Turkish business, suffering huge losses, understands that they are directly related to Erdzep Taipic Erdogan. So the sultan starts up in all seriousness))) But after all he just had to think with his head, and not Obama ...
    4. 0
      23 2016 June
      Quote: razmik72
      He knocks out money, but at the same time wants to Europe, bastard.

      In general, eat a fish and drink an aquarium.
    5. 0
      23 2016 June
      Quote: razmik72
      And they should think with whom they will have a conversation when millions of refugees stand at their doorstep and knock on their door.

      Not only that, he needs support against Russia.
      And they should think with whom they will have a conversation when millions of refugees stand at their doorstep and knock on their door.
      We must think with the Kurds.
    6. 0
      23 2016 June
      Erdogan has started the EU's "arm-twisting" policy! After this statement, the EU will start horror and the first to fly to Erdogan will be "the friend of his harsh days" Merkel! Merkel will make all the concessions to Erdogan, just not to let the refugees into Europe!
  2. +12
    23 2016 June
    Whatever attitude we have towards him, but you must agree, it would be nice if our leadership began to honestly and in the same spirit to answer our "partners" for their behavior. And do not let the nuns, as is usually the case.
  3. -4
    23 2016 June
    And frankly, amid the pathetic crouching before the United States and swan before Juncker in Peter V. Putin, Perdogan really looks like a tough leader, firmly defending national interests.
    And he has something to blackmail the EU up to its complete collapse.
    In this capacity, one can admire him - he does not bend in front of "partners" and "the only laughing power"
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    2. +11
      23 2016 June
      Laughing ... Erdogan aphids, yapping, while the Americans allow him ... he generally has zero politics, a bloated eno behind which there is nothing

      Erdogan, like a young gopnik, can be made a fool under the patronage of his elders, he’ll scribble all letters to Putin, that’s who he seeks in reality.

      In many ways, I do not share Putin’s domestic policy. But our president is not fooling anyone.
      Putin is the president, and Erdogan is an arrogant .chmo who enjoys the toothlessness of Europe under the guise of states.
      1. -4
        23 2016 June
        Perdogan is a rather self-governing "puppet" like Israel - he will even send the US to Nahui about the Kurdish issue.
        Do not overestimate the degree of its control from the outside

        "But Our President is not fawning over anyone" exactly?

        And what about his own remark in St. Petersburg about "the only laughing power in the United States" and that he needs it?
        1. +5
          23 2016 June
          So what? He type suggested surrender? Or, how do our liberals and geyropa lie under them? Just said the obvious, the enemy is strong and nothing more.

          “America is a great power. Today is probably the only superpower. We accept it. We want and are ready to work with the United States, "

          He said SURE that in diplomatic language means that we still dispute this thesis.
          And where did he say that he needed America? Yes, we want to work, not to fight. What is so shameful here?
          Politeness has never been a manifestation of weakness, as some idiots like Erdogan imagine.
          1. -4
            23 2016 June
            “The world needs a country as powerful as the United States. AND WE NEED "- said Putin.

            explain to me: WHY, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, according to Putin, does the USA need as a laughing power? I don’t have property there, unlike the friends of Putin’s oligarchs and members of the Russian government, deputies of the Russian State Duma?
            1. +5
              23 2016 June
              First, to school, then to the tower and there at the appropriate departments they will explain how this is all interconnected.

              Katati, grandfather Stalin clearly understood what the USA was for him, you can read his works, there are a lot of interesting things about this.
              1. -5
                23 2016 June
                You can’t specifically formulate the answer and say so!

                Stalin never said that he needed the United States.
            2. -4
              23 2016 June
              Quote: Joe Stalin
              “The world needs a country as powerful as the United States. AND WE NEED "- said Putin.

              explain to me: WHY, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, according to Putin, does the USA need as a laughing power? I don’t have property there, unlike the friends of Putin’s oligarchs and members of the Russian government, deputies of the Russian State Duma?

              ... learn the basics of economics ...

              Then, that the whole world - he, as it were, freak interconnected ... and when at least some connection breaks somewhere - it responds woldwide.

              If suddenly (right now) the US economy breaks down - to you, bastard The 90s for the holiday seem ...

              That is why: the same Putin: pushing the interests of the Russian Federation, but

              - in no way trying to break (abruptly. About "unsharply" - a separate issue ... but not for you, hike ... Vasya ...) existing economic ties
              - because breaking these bonds is painful mutually... Vasya

              That's something like
              1. -2
                23 2016 June
                "If suddenly (immediately and now) the economy of the States breaks down - you, bastard, will seem like the 90s for a holiday ..."

                And why when I lived in the USSR no one thought so?

                Is it because erefia, in contrast to the self-sufficient USSR, is a RAW MATERIAL ADDITION of the EU and China?
                1. +1
                  23 2016 June
                  Quote: Joe Stalin
                  Is it because erefia, in contrast to the self-sufficient USSR, is a RAW MATERIAL ADDITION of the EU and China?

                  Since the mid-70s, the USSR has been sitting on the very same oil needle ... You do not know? Funny since laughing
                  1. -1
                    23 2016 June
                    under Great Stalin did not sit:
                    1. +1
                      24 2016 June
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      Since the mid-70s, the USSR has been sitting on the very same oil needle ... You do not know? Funny since

                      Quote: Joe Stalin
                      under Great Stalin did not sit:

                      Vasya, do you know that Brezhnev was already in the 70s? How old are you, miracle?
                2. +2
                  23 2016 June
                  Quote: Joe Stalin
                  "If suddenly (immediately and now) the economy of the States breaks down - you, bastard, will seem like the 90s for a holiday ..."

                  And why when I lived in the USSR no one thought so?

                  Is it because erefia, in contrast to the self-sufficient USSR, is a RAW MATERIAL ADDITION of the EU and China?

                  Why, why, but do I know? Maybe you fell into suspended animation and overslept 20 years of perestroika. And now, oh, where am I?
                  Have you been advised to read Stalin, is it boring? C'mon, I didn't read either.
                  Well, listen to the lectures of Starikov N. and Furtsev A. - fascinating.
                  And you will understand in the days of Stalin the world was great, now it is like an old deflated ball. They kicked it all, there was no living place: there were few raw materials, no markets, clean water, land, no air.
                  For perestroika, we purposefully destroyed industry, take it for granted without tantrums. She is gone, she died. There were two giant tractor plants Kharkov and Chelyabinsk. One where you know, the other was killed (the caterpillar also had a hand in it - the market, a competitor’s leg, but rather a crowbar)
                  Open the window for 20 years. We crack GMO products and seeds from there.
                  Therefore, not "erefiya", but the RF.
                  "Why do I, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, according to Putin need the United States as a laughing power?"
                  "The US as a laughing power" Putin did not say that. You twist, ah ugly, and you also say that you lived in the USSR.
                  And Cat Man Null is just an Amerian cow’s flat cake, now there’s a lot of them, they stink.
                  1. 0
                    24 2016 June
                    Quote: Mavrikiy
                    And Cat Man Null is just an Amerian cow’s flat cake, now there’s a lot of them, they stink

                    And we don’t want to answer for the bazaar? wink
              2. 0
                23 2016 June
                Answer for Joe Stalin

                GREAT NEWS (read yesterday)
                1. the price of oil within 10 days will exceed $ 52.
                2. Within 10 days to the states of the kerdyk. From Vancouver, to Kolliforniya, the earthquake of 9,5 (there will be no more life), the tsunami will polish.
                VERY Lousy news (I understood it myself).
                1. Within 10 days to the States of the kerdyk. Oil states sideways. Chinese goods - sideways. Oil to the Chinese side.
                2. Oil prices will fall below $ 20.
                And it does not concern you? So you are a banker in Sweden and what for work under Stalin?
        2. +3
          23 2016 June
          Quote: Joe Stalin
          And what about his own remark in St. Petersburg about "the only laughing power in the United States" and that he needs it?
          Not “he needs”, but, literally, “the world needs such a powerful country as the United States. And we need.” And what is the ambush? Or do you consider today's Russia a superpower? Judging by your previous posts, you have a completely opposite opinion.
          1. -4
            23 2016 June
            WHY Putin needs the USA? Keep money there?
    3. +4
      23 2016 June
      Putin does not need a "here and now" conflict. Putin does not declare war, he is playing for time, because it works for us. That in the States, that in Europe, that in Turkey - their own self-destructive processes. And we need to do everything to avoid unnecessary stress. Therefore, it really makes sense to lay down softly, including calling the States the only superpower, but there will come a time when someone will have to sleep very hard. Remember, before the war, Stalin also tried not to conflict with everyone to the last. The country needed time.
      1. -4
        23 2016 June
        "Putin does not declare war, he is playing for time, because it works for us"

        WHAT does it work for us? Have we started a forced REINDUSTRIATION instead of stalled "import substitution"? rather, we feel the "bottom" in anticipation of a rise in the prices of slurry and the lifting of EU sanctions.

        JV Stalin DOESN'T DELAY TIME, but rather rapidly turned the USSR into an INDUSTRIAL power:

        3st FIVE YEAR (1938-1942)

        The head of state is I.V. Stalin.

        3000 new large industrial enterprises commissioned (until June 1941)

        Gross output of the whole industry increased by 45%, and machine building - by more than 70%.

        Hydroelectric power stations - Uglichskaya and Komsomolskaya - were commissioned.

        Metallurgical plants - Novotagilsky and Petrovsk-Zabaykalsky were built.

        Copper smelters were built - Sredneuralsky and Balkhash.

        The Ufa oil refinery was built.

        In 1940, the number of workers and employees rose to 31,2 million, compared with 11,4 million in 1928.

        The five-year plan passed during the years of expectation of the war, so the army had to constantly increase spending - 25% (1939), 34% (1940), 43,4% (1941).

        Over the 16th anniversary of Putin, has the share of Russia's GDP in world GDP risen from 2% to 19%?
        1. +3
          23 2016 June
          Go sweet man ... admire Erdogan, the audience is not the same.
        2. -1
          23 2016 June
          Quote: Joe Stalin
          WHAT does it work for us? Have we started a forced REINDUSTRIATION instead of stalled "import substitution"? rather, we feel the "bottom" in anticipation of a rise in the prices of slurry and the lifting of EU sanctions.

          Hey, Vasya ... but the country is already different .. there is no iron curtain ... and, apparently, it will not be, since this "path of development" is recognized as a dead end ...

          Quote: Party organization and party literature (November 13, 1905) .- PSS, 5th ed., Vol. 12, p. 104
          You cannot live in society and be free from society

          Vasya, this applies to countries too. Stalin - successfully or not - one can argue - tried to live "outside of society." Now everything is not so (not at all) already, wipe your eyes, yes fool
          1. +8
            23 2016 June
            To steal it is necessary less to allow friends like A. Chubais!

            the situation is 1: 1 as in the 30s of the XNUMXth century.

            WHY are we not hearing these words from Putin today ?!
          2. +2
            23 2016 June
            Do not distort! This quote by V.I. Lenin has nothing to do with what you said. You cannot be free from the society in which you live, and not from the societies that surround you. Read the classics and you will be happy.
    4. +5
      23 2016 June
      Quote: Joe Stalin
      In this capacity, one can admire him - he does not bend in front of "partners" and "the only laughing power"
      What the hell ?! And who immediately ran to NATA for intercession to ask when a serious school was overthrown with the destruction of our bomber? Erdogan is just as brazen as the States allow him. Therefore, it is not necessary to portray him as a weighty historical figure, a kind of new Suleiman I the Magnificent. He is an ordinary oriental merchant - arrogant, unprincipled and, at the same time, cowardly. Plus with a huge show off. There are enough such characters on the market in any regional center of Russia. And if you admire the behavior of people of this type, then I sincerely feel sorry for you - apparently, parents have missed something important in your upbringing.
    5. +6
      23 2016 June
      Simplify, dear. In such a cesspool as politics "not everything is so simple." It is far from a fact that Erdogan is blackmailing the EU without the sanction of his colleagues from the United States. A tough leader ruined relations with anyone he could. For what purpose it is not yet clear. About the inflexibility under the USA - it is necessary to cast it in granite. An unbending six under an ace is strong.
    6. +1
      23 2016 June
      Quote: Joe Stalin
      And frankly, amid the pitifully crouching in front of the USA and swan in front of Juncker in St. Petersburg V. Putin

      If Putin was cribbing before Junker, then all documents would have been signed for which European politicians flew in, and these documents were about the unilateral lifting of sanctions by Russia. However, all these Junkers, Sarkozy and other politicians left with nothing.
      1. +1
        23 2016 June
        “America is a great power. Today is probably the only superpower. We accept it, ”the Russian president said.

        “The world needs such a powerful country as the United States. And we need, ”Putin said.

        what is that supposed to mean?
        1. -4
          23 2016 June
          Quote: Joe Stalin
          “The world needs such a powerful country as the United States. And we need, ”Putin said.

          what is that supposed to mean?

          Exactly to the best of your very limited, camping trip, brains laughing
          1. -1
            23 2016 June
            and more specifically?
            1. 0
              23 2016 June
              Quote: Joe Stalin
              and more specifically?

              - the world is an economy. Without it, bread rolls are not baked, chicken is not grown, all this is not delivered to your nearest store.
              - this is not the whole economy ... it is, a sketch. I get it ... so far? wink

              Carr Roche: The United States, sadly, is the main sector of the economy today.
              Tryndets USA (in any form) - will inevitably affect you, your family (if any) well, and so on. And it will be reflected exactly as tryndets (already with you)

              Am I understood yet? wink
              1. -2
                23 2016 June
                "The United States, sadly, is the main economic sector today."

                For this it is necessary to shoot the entire financial and economic bloc of the Russian Federation and Kudrin with Gref, which liberal V. Putin will never do!
                1. +2
                  23 2016 June
                  Quote: Joe Stalin
                  The United States, sadly, is the main economic sector today. "

                  For this it is necessary to shoot the entire financial and economic bloc of the Russian Federation and Kudrin with Gref, which liberal V. Putin will never do!

                  Even if you shoot all of you mentioned, you, me and everyone grazing on this site - the picture in the economy, alas, will not change.

                  This is done in a completely different way (and, by the way, it is done). But this is not fast, as one friend of mine says - "not everyone will survive."

                  I wish you to live Yes
        2. +1
          23 2016 June
          Quote: Joe Stalin
          “America is a great power. Today is probably the only superpower. We accept it, ”the Russian president said.

          “The world needs such a powerful country as the United States. And we need, ”Putin said.

          what is that supposed to mean?

          What is not clear is to understand literally. There is a powerful USA, it will create demand for steel, oil, etc. And prices will rise.
          I repeat: listen to the lectures of Starikov and Fursov. Maybe you will finally have a question, how did Stalin carry out industrialization, who gave loans, ensured the supply of unique heavy equipment for thousands of plants under political and economic blockade.
          Let me tell you: then the USSR helped, now the PRC helped.
  4. +1
    23 2016 June
    and I would take the money and equip them with refugees in Europe.
    1. 0
      23 2016 June
      and I would take the money and equip them with refugees in Europe. ,,
      early to you in Erdogany, he will take money from both Europe and refugees.
  5. +2
    23 2016 June
    Turkey has only 984 years left before joining the EU! laughing hi
  6. 0
    23 2016 June
    The old woman of Europe is not a simple choice, the most interesting thing in this situation is the mattress mattresses are silent, apparently in this situation they are on the side of Turkey. The destabilization of Europe through refugees and intimidation by aggressive Russia is what mattresses are so confidently seeking.
    1. 0
      23 2016 June
      Quote: engineering
      Not an easy choice for an old woman in Europe,

      to choose you need to have the opportunity and will
      of these at Europa - minuscule
  7. +2
    23 2016 June
    Erdogan is being traded, everything is fine. He bargains for his own, or 3mln. refugees will wipe Europe off the face of the earth and there they know about it. So give up ..
    1. -1
      23 2016 June
      30 million Kurdish refugees bombed - and they will run to Geyropu
    2. 0
      23 2016 June
      Quote: avg-mgn
      refugees will wipe Europe off the face of the earth and there they know about it. So give up ..

      It’s like the State Department of Frogs will say so the Eurogians and will do bully !!!
    3. +2
      23 2016 June
      or 3 million refugees will wipe Europe off the face of the earth


      They will not sweep away ... And there will not be 3 million. Immediately after the first wave, they will forget "tolerance" and remember the gas chambers and barbed wire. Europeans know this a lot more than anyone else in the world, do not worry about them. Found "philanthropic" poor things.
  8. -1
    23 2016 June
    Such a language of Europe understands better than our bleating about accusing us of not fulfilling the Minsk agreements.
  9. +1
    23 2016 June
    And these statements against the background of the picture of an aircraft carrier in the context ... M-dya, insanity grows stronger.
  10. +2
    23 2016 June
    Pathetic attempts to cling to at least for something.
    First, he sends congratulatory letters to our leadership and "wishes" to correct the current situation in bilateral relations, but does not receive any feedback. Now I decided to try my luck with Europe.

    In this situation, Erdogan resembles a dog, driven into a corner and embittered by its own stupidity.
  11. 0
    23 2016 June
    Europe has long had time to pack up the courage and tell Turkey that it does not want its entry. It will be better for everyone. After that, start building an adequate relationship: in the morning, money in the evening chairs the refugees.
  12. +1
    23 2016 June
    “Thus, Erdogan, speaking at the Fatih Sultan Mehmet University, said that the European Union should not hesitate and decide whether it is ready to see Turkey in its membership or not. According to the Turkish President, if the response of the European Union is again postponed for an indefinite period, then Ankara will organize a referendum and ask the Turkish population if they are ready to continue to fulfill the European conditions for joining the EU, including the issue of curbing refugee flows. "

    he’s been talking to them like that for a long time, here’s the news, blackmail in one word, and let the EU continue to lick the asses of the states and prepare for the reception of refugees organized not without the help of the peacemaking phasington itself
  13. 0
    23 2016 June
    Whoever he is, Erdogan bends Europe into a pose and seeks advantages for his people.
    If this business burns out for him, then it’s not a sin for ours to adopt politically offensive methods of communication with the West
  14. +1
    23 2016 June
    Quote: Joe Stalin
    sure?
    We do not have a visa-free regime with Turkestan: the United States should set fire to Central Asia (there are extremely unstable regimes) and MILLIONS will trample to Russia. The Russian Federation and so on in the SECOND (after the USA) place in the world in the number of immigrants, moreover, non-Slavic roots and non-Christian religion, alien to Russian identity
    Modern MOSCOWABAD:

    Your nickname completely reveals your essence: another liber * id pace * tel disguised as an ardent Stalinist. The Stalinists somehow do not favor the probable adversary and will not be called by the names of Joe.

    Essentially your assumptions:
    1. It is already difficult to set fire to anything from Central Asia, measures have been taken.
    2. Russia will not accept uncontrolled flows of refugees, which was explicitly announced at the beginning of the migration crisis in Europe.
    1. -1
      23 2016 June
      "2. Russia will not accept uncontrolled flows of refugees, which was unequivocally stated at the beginning of the migration crisis in Europe."

      But where will it go, Russia, if it does not have a visa regime with Turkestan or a Soviet-equipped state border with Kazakhstan?
      1. 0
        24 2016 June
        Quote: Joe Stalin
        "2. Russia will not accept uncontrolled flows of refugees, which was unequivocally stated at the beginning of the migration crisis in Europe."

        But where will it go, Russia, if it does not have a visa regime with Turkestan or a Soviet-equipped state border with Kazakhstan?

        In the woodpecker ...
  15. +1
    23 2016 June
    Quote: Knizhnik
    Europe has long had time to pack up the courage and tell Turkey that it does not want its entry. It will be better for everyone. After that, start building an adequate relationship: in the morning, money in the evening chairs the refugees.

    It’s wonderful, of course, to parasitize on other people's humanism, peering out and pulling Uncle Joe in a star-striped hat from the gateway. This is about your valuable opinion, including.

    But only in addition to direct physical / military opposition in Europe, even in the overseas collar, there is something to answer. It is not necessary to build the illusion that such fucking behavior of Turkey will be swallowed by someone or forgotten in Europe. Erdogan is now dancing, trampling his heels, the well-being of future generations of the Turks. This odd guy will dump somewhere in the UAE, picking up dough as much as possible (unless, of course, his own military men finish him off), and the Turks will still have to rake shit * after him.
  16. 0
    23 2016 June
    Quote: Joe Stalin
    "2. Russia will not accept uncontrolled flows of refugees, which was unequivocally stated at the beginning of the migration crisis in Europe."

    But where will it go, Russia, if it does not have a visa regime with Turkestan or a Soviet-equipped state border with Kazakhstan?

    Firstly, it’s very difficult to heat and explode something in Central Asia, as I already wrote. In practice, this will not be allowed.

    Secondly, massive waves of refugees in Europe are collected from all over the BV: Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Libya, plus Africa. And the basis for such a number of refugees is the total disruption as a result of hostilities for many years. In Central Asia, such a wave is simply impossible to create.

    Thirdly, Russia is not dictated by telephone what it should do with refugees, such as Germany or France (it sends these "announcers" on a long journey). Therefore, even if a crowd of refugees gathers at the borders of Russia, their progress will be regulated not by a visa-free regime, of course, but by emergency considerations.

    As for Kazakhstan, Russia will not even allow any external force to move there. Kazakhstan is a member of the CSTO, at his request, if it suddenly turns out in some incredible way that its Armed Forces are not enough, Russian peacekeeping forces will be deployed, and all movement will simply be annihilated in the bud. With all sr * new igilovskim and joined, no one will fuss.

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