Brussels shakes from possible Brexit (NRK, Norway)

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Brussels shakes from possible Brexit (NRK, Norway)


Brussels Eurocrats held their breath before the decision on Brexit, which the British should take on Thursday. Result will have historical significance for the “European project”.

It is often said that the EU will emerge from the crisis stronger. But such a conclusion can hardly be made if the British, the citizens of the first member state, decide to leave the EU.

Many believe that the EU, in the event of Britain’s exit, will be subjected to the most serious test in the 60 years of the union’s existence.

“We have nothing left to do but to pray,” says one of the former prime ministers of the EU, whose office is located in Brussels, in an interview with the correspondent of the online publication Politico. The former prime minister did not want to give his name.

The threat of Western civilization

The President of the European Council, the Pole Donald Tusk, went further than anyone else in the description of the “disaster”. In an interview with the German newspaper Bild, Tusk states that Brexit will be the beginning of the end not only of the EU, but of the entire Western political civilization.

According to the comments of leading EU politicians, the UK will be severely punished if it decides to exit.

“In the union - it is in the union. Outside of it, it is outside of it, ”says German finance minister Wolfgang Schäuble.

The British will suffer for their choice if this choice is “Leave”. The answer will be tough, not least to show other countries what awaits them in the event of a withdrawal. Therefore, the British are promised seven long years of uncertainty and negotiations on their future relations with the EU and on access to an important domestic market.

Britons have to pay dearly for Brexit

If the UK uses the 50 clause of the treaty governing membership of the union itself, then two phases of negotiations will follow.

First, within two years, it will be necessary to work out the terms of the divorce, which must be approved by 27 by the remaining EU members. Only after that the EU will be able to begin negotiations on a trade agreement with the UK, which is not a member of the EU, and this process can be delayed for many years.

There is no question of giving the UK the opportunity to stay on the EU internal market.

“The day after that there will be no desire to be“ nice ”with the British,” said Camille Grand from the French organization Foundation for Strategic Research. The British have to pay dearly, not least in order to keep others from taking the same step, ”she says.

Same value as the fall of the Berlin Wall

Nevertheless, Brexit will strongly inspire euro skeptics in other participating countries. The leader of the French far-right party, the National Front, will be among those whom Britain’s decision will please.

Marine Le Pen (Marine Le Pen) has already compared the possible exit of Great Britain from the EU with the fall of the Berlin Wall. And she promises to work to achieve the same plebiscite in France.

There is no doubt that Brexit will shake the EU to its foundations.

“Brexit can cause a domino effect, as a result of which the EU will collapse,” says Mark Leonard, director of the European Council on Foreign Policy.

“The EU will look like a destroyed project, a great power in ruin,” says Leonard.

Lack of popular support

Others believe that Brexit could breathe new life into the processes of general security policy, which were hampered by the British.

“In addition, cities such as Paris, Frankfurt and Luxembourg can establish themselves as financial centers after London has lost its role as the financial capital of Europe,” said former Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski told New York Times.

Many analysts point out that for the fact that the Union does not have popular support in many member countries, the EU can blame itself. The EU has only recently emerged from the economic crisis that began in 2007-2008, and unemployment is still 10%.

Euro and refugees

The introduction of a common currency, the euro, was partly a bad decision, because the economic conditions in the countries of Northern and Southern Europe vary greatly. As a result, poor countries like Greece were bogged down in bottomless debts and were only saved at the last moment.

Recently, the EU has undergone new tests related to the migration crisis, which has become the breeding ground for right-wing populist parties, in particular in Austria and Hungary.

Brexit will cause Britain damage, especially in the economic sphere, but the loss of one of the most important member countries will cause great damage to the EU itself.

Sense of helplessness

In the capital of the EU, there is a feeling of helplessness, writes the online edition Politico, which closely monitors the events of the internal life of EU organizations. Eurocrats feel that they are not able to influence the situation, and that they can only wait for results.

“No one among those who care about the fate of the EU will sleep on Friday night,” says European Parliament member David McAlister.
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  1. +35
    23 June 2016 21: 10
    Tomorrow morning we will find out the results of the referendum. It seems to me that supporters of the EU will win. Power will go all the way to prevent separation supporters.
    1. avt
      +19
      23 June 2016 21: 17
      Quote: Abbra
      Tomorrow morning we will find out the results of the referendum. It seems to me that supporters of the EU will win.

      But it doesn't seem to me, because regardless of the results of the shaved ones, no one will let go of them anywhere. As with the Dutch referendum on the great ukram. But it would be great to once again dunk them in their “democracy” - they would vote against and ... the EU would remain. bully
      1. +28
        23 June 2016 21: 36
        Do you know why Brussels officials are so worried about the results of the referendum in the UK?
        Do you think that they care about the fate of the British?
        Нет!
        Do you think that they care about the fate of continental Europe and Europeans?
        Нет!
        They only care about: - the swollen purses of European officials sitting in Brussels, in various commissions, subcommittees, committees, subcommittees, parliaments and councils.
        The number of the pan-European bureaucracy exceeds all conceivable limits - "Their name is darkness", and the sums they receive, allegedly for their work, are fantastic.
        That is why, they will be holding their hands, teeth and feet in each, even the smallest country, in the web of the EU. They are like parasites in the human body - they themselves do nothing good, but only consume useful substances.
        1. +12
          23 June 2016 22: 07
          "... Brussels officials are worried about the results of the referendum ..."
          Valery hi , have you ever wondered why the villagers are in no hurry to extinguish the blazing selmag ?! Right! Everyone is waiting for "that very notebook" to burn ... wink
          1. +2
            23 June 2016 22: 15
            Sergey, good evening hi
            Yes, there, besides the cherished "notebook", there is still something to profit from: - canned food, hot vodka, beer - double brewed ... lol
        2. +3
          23 June 2016 22: 57
          Quote: sever.56
          Do you know why Brussels officials are so worried about the results of the referendum in the UK?

          They don’t care. The referendum is advisory in nature. On the opinion of the people of us .... There is no democracy.
        3. +3
          23 June 2016 23: 19
          Quote: sever.56
          They only care about: - the swollen purses of European officials sitting in Brussels, in various commissions, subcommittees, committees, subcommittees, parliaments and councils.
          The number of the pan-European bureaucracy exceeds all conceivable limits - "Their name is darkness", and the sums they receive, allegedly for their work, are fantastic.

          I support! You’re completely right! I wrote about the dissolution of NATO, too, or about the same. The only way to quickly disperse, London needs to block the EU’s accounts for the duration of the divorce.
          1. 0
            23 June 2016 23: 31
            Quote: Amurets
            But wait and see, while no news.

            Something is ... for some 45% exit ports on 45% ... request
            Grandma said in two.
      2. 0
        24 June 2016 05: 53
        Quote: avt
        But it would be great to once again dunk them in their “democracy” - they would vote against and ... the EU would remain.

        Perhaps it will. Here on the local radio WNYC an expert appeared and said that in Britain a referendum is nothing more than a public opinion poll, and does not have the force of law. Another thing is that under the "majority for exit" Cameron can squeeze out concessions from the EU such as immigration quotas and the non-obligation to pay social benefits to non-citizens. And even with a slight preponderance of "stay" too - they say, do not anger our voters, otherwise next time they may vote for an exit. They say, you will be stubborn, so we can put to a vote in parliament, and parliamentarians, in theory, should be guided by the opinion of their voters. But voting in parliament just has the force of law.
    2. +10
      23 June 2016 21: 18
      Yeah, everything will be presented as a beautiful rivalry on an equal footing. But in the end, those who are for maintaining EU membership will gain the upper hand with a 1% advantage. A beautiful fairy tale for a simple European layman: how democratic and a little bit was not enough! It’s only us (Russians) who are looking for fraud in everything laughing , and there no one will think for "cheating". This is Britain itself. Have you confused or what? Everything there is without deception ... Only the will of the people, only democracy! fellow
    3. +19
      23 June 2016 21: 20
      Wang 52/48 in favor of the EU.
      But most importantly, the next day, all newspapers in Europe will come out with the headline: "Putin has lost!" or "Putin has nothing to be happy about," or, in general, "All of Putin's attempts have failed!"
    4. +1
      23 June 2016 21: 22
      Quote: Abbra
      Tomorrow morning we will find out the results of the referendum. It seems to me that supporters of the EU will win. Power will go all the way to prevent separation supporters.

      duc "gentlemen believe the word", pencils and open booths
      1. +4
        23 June 2016 21: 30
        The Queen said "Brexit" means "Brexit"... Yes

        The 89-year-old monarch adamantly told the pro-European Mr. Clegg that she was sure the European Union was headed in the wrong direction.
        Recall that the referendum on whether to remain in the UK as part of the EU or withdraw, has already been appointed by the government of David Cameron on June 23 this year.
        Therefore, such an opinion of the Queen can play a decisive role in the voting "for exit".

        If it came to such a harsh reaction of Her Majesty to the European Union, and this reaction was voiced (albeit on the pages of the "yellow press" to which the newspaper "The Sun" in London is attributed), then we can assume that Prime Minister David Cameron will now have a difficult time pulling out a vote in a referendum in favor of keeping Britain in the EU.

        There is one more nuance ... the EU banks have announced the following that under the terms of the US-EU trade agreement, the EU banks will lose the opportunity to lead in their own markets. American banks will take their place, London cannot allow that to happen.
        And further....04.05.2015
        Over the past 15 months, capital outflows from Britain amounted to $ 356 billion, and in recent months the situation has deteriorated significantly, only in March, investors pulled out $ 24 billion. It is worth noting that this is a record capital outflow, in 2005 and in 2010. the indicator did not reach such colossal values.

        Investors are withdrawing funds under the influence of two reasons: first, the elections to the British parliament, as a result of which the tilt in favor of the "anti-integration policy of the EU" may intensify.

        Withdrawn offshore money ...
        And further...
        The British lined up to exchange pounds for euros in London amid investors' expectations of a referendum on the country's withdrawal from the European Union (Brexit).

        The Financial Times newspaper reports that long queues lined up at the exchangers: the British want to cash their money out of harm and possibly transfer it to some other currency, because today is the day of the referendum on the UK leaving the EU.

        In general, almost all respondents confirm a sharp increase in demand for foreign currency. Everyone fears that in the case of Brexit, the quotes of the pound will collapse. The other day, George Soros predicted the British currency to fall by 15-20%.

        Wait and see... wink
    5. 0
      23 June 2016 21: 29
      the same idea, no one will let the impudent Saxons do what they want, so the decision is made for them by Fashtington, or rather, who is behind them.
      but for them the EU is beneficial to them so far.
      although if the EU is drowning, then they may be allowed to go out in order to save their ideological center (and this is all the same arrogance with its queen). but this is only if Europe as an Ikanomek Khan.
      1. +4
        23 June 2016 22: 04
        Signs ... they are everywhere ... laughing

        Burned out with a satellite ... laughing

        Oh, everything ...
        US senators demand that Russia not endanger the US military
        US senators proposed a resolution calling on Russia to stop endangering the US military and not committing provocative actions, the Washington Free Beacon reports. This reaction is connected with the frequent clashes between the two countries in the international water and airspace, as well as with the fact that Russia, according to American politicians, is increasing its military presence and threatening the interests of the United States.
        https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2016-06-22/Senatori-SSHA-trebuyut-u-RF

        These aggressive Russians ... wassat

        NATO is not able to defend the Baltic states in the event of Russia's invasion. Such a statement was made by Lieutenant-General Ben Hodges, commander of US forces in Europe, in an interview with Die Zeit, an excerpt from which was published on the website of the publication on Wednesday, 22 June.

        “Russia could have conquered the Baltic States faster than we could have been there to protect them,” said Hodges, agreeing with analysts who believe that Russian troops would need 36-60 hours to capture the capitals of the Baltic states.
    6. +4
      23 June 2016 22: 33
      Yes, they won’t go anywhere ... they bargain for themselves the best conditions within the EU. Now they will scare everyone, they will show that this is completely possible and ... they will begin to set their conditions.
    7. +2
      23 June 2016 22: 36
      Quote: Abbra
      Power will go all the way to prevent separation supporters.

      so it was not in vain that they allowed pencils to be used in the ballots
    8. +1
      23 June 2016 22: 48
      I think you are right ....
    9. +2
      24 June 2016 00: 08
      You know, but I can understand those who are "shaken". In 90, Argumenty i Fakty published a reprint of an article in one of the western newspapers. In the main illustration for the article there were two pictures - one painted the year 90-the Soviet Union and the countries of Europe. And the second drew their forecast for 1995-United Europe and the Union collapsed to pieces. I was confused when I introduced it ... And then came 1991. Their average ... is the EU for a week, and my Motherland existed ... All my life at that time existed ... I can understand those who are shaking .. ...
    10. +1
      24 June 2016 05: 28
      All this fuss with "Brexit" is started so that the Britons could knock out more preferences for themselves from EU membership. Business and nothing personal.
      1. 0
        24 June 2016 06: 29
        According to the Air Force (British Broadcasting Corporation) the turnout is 71% ... 51,2 for leaving the UK from the EU. Kremlin hand? wassat
    11. +1
      24 June 2016 09: 21
      At 9-00 Moscow time, in the news on TV "Zvezda" - 52% voted FOR leaving the EU.
  2. +2
    23 June 2016 21: 16
    They cheat "democratically" and sound the desired result. The United States will not allow England to evade American directives.
    1. +7
      23 June 2016 21: 33
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The United States will not allow England to dodge the implementation of American directives.
      This is precisely Britain that is the persistent and consistent vehicle of American politics on the European continent. Moreover, it is not yet known where this policy is being worked out - in Washington or in London. Nevertheless, in the past, UK is a metropolis, even though it has now become the junior partner of its former colony. In matters of upholding US interests in the EU, only Poland can leave the competition to England.
      It seems that the British want to jump from the sinking ship of the European Union. They probably know something. Well, or at least they suspect
  3. +8
    23 June 2016 21: 20
    Personally, I will sleep, and I do not care what happens in the insolent place. The fate of the EU does not bother me. Moreover, all the same, the results will be faked. The mattress will not let the insolent slip off.
    1. +4
      23 June 2016 22: 23
      Ah, I’ll also devour ... for the night! belay Let me be a fat "barbarian", but lightly salted cucumbers with horseradish, currant leaves, cloves and peppercorns with boiled potatoes, fresh dill, sprinkled with, yes, with Altai butter and fried perch, I cannot miss ... Yes, weakling and a Russian glutton, call it what you want, but ... good
  4. Avz
    +2
    23 June 2016 21: 22
    There were guest workers from Central Asia, so they will come from England. Well, why.?
  5. +5
    23 June 2016 21: 24
    It is interesting to observe how EU and US officials pretend to be uncertain about Britain’s voting, although in fact everyone understands perfectly well that if necessary, the elections will be rigged and the British will “vote” as they should, i.e. for the EU. So it was in Scotland - not voting, but a circus.
  6. +6
    23 June 2016 21: 25
    EU supporters will "win". And there is nothing to guess. For a large Atlantic puddle, the votes have long been counted.
    1. 0
      23 June 2016 22: 56
      Quote: Koshak
      For a large Atlantic puddle, votes have long been counted.

      nobody there counted anything. gave a command in percentage and that's it
  7. +1
    23 June 2016 21: 26
    All this is an empty action — no split of the Angles is foreseen — more like a PR — here we are going to leave — and you ...
  8. +5
    23 June 2016 21: 26
    First, within two years, it will be necessary to work out the terms of the divorce, which must be approved by 27 by the remaining EU members. Only after that the EU will be able to begin negotiations on a trade agreement with the UK, which is not a member of the EU, and this process can be delayed for many years.


    Oh, shit! Ukraine somehow suffers. For that, the English will be open to observers in the African Union. Outskirts and Small Britain - twin for a century!
    1. +1
      23 June 2016 22: 24
      Quote: Monos
      Ukraine is suffering as it is. For that, the English will be opened to observers in the African Union. Outskirts and Melk Britain - twin forever!
      You just do not notice the strategic thinking of Ceuvropey .... first, Ukraine is recognized as an African state ... then they sail in boats to the EU ... voila refugee status and they are in the EU ... laughing
      Svidomites have free "visa-free" ... Peremoga! Moskali are ashamed ... bully
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  10. +5
    23 June 2016 21: 32
    The EU will fall apart, if not tomorrow, so the day after tomorrow. After all, there are more contradictions in it than at one time in the USSR. And the later this happens, the more painful the consequences will be for the EU countries. May not be for everyone.
    1. +2
      23 June 2016 22: 24
      By the way, Switzerland withdrew its application for EU membership. What is it for?
  11. +11
    23 June 2016 21: 36
    No one who cares about the fate of the EU will sleep on Friday night, ”says a member of the European Parliament
    Is the EU so stupefied that they do not understand that this performance with a referendum is designed for such a "shaking" effect? This little Britain is not going anywhere. The Anglo-Saxons throughout their history strive to lead everyone by the nose and fill their own worth. This is a clever trick to get yourself special conditions and preferences in the EU, that's all. Anglo-Saxons are prim insolent and swindlers only pretend that they are tormented with a choice.
  12. +4
    23 June 2016 21: 40
    So the camera phone announced the date of entry of Turkey into the EU-3000! It is also the date of exit from EU Britain.
  13. +2
    23 June 2016 21: 55
    [quote = Abbra] Tomorrow morning we will find out the results of the referendum. It seems to me that supporters of the EU will win. Power will go all the way to prevent separation supporters.
    This is just a show about European democracy and no secession is foreseen on the horizon. Tomorrow it will be announced that the supporters of integration in the European Union have won, and the UK has become even "stronger" and "more united" and Brussels can sleep peacefully. It would be foolish to believe that someone will simply allow them to leave the European Union.
  14. +2
    23 June 2016 21: 56
    Their totalitarianism in the EU rolls over, Pinochet nervously smokes on the sidelines. What executions of the Egyptians were not promised to the British, for freedom of choice! When the three proud Baltic sisters left the USSR they were released in peace, now they are hungry. The British themselves must understand whether they need such a European swamp. The British economy will survive, they will remain the financial center without the EU.
  15. +1
    23 June 2016 21: 57
    Even if EU opponents win, it will be announced that EU supporters have won! Or do you have doubts about the democracy of the EU?
  16. +3
    23 June 2016 21: 59
    So their civilization had already ended, with the arrival of the first refugees of Arabs, Afghans and Africans, they did not understand that they did not need them under any sauce - neither white nor red, only complete elimination and submission to the new Sharia worldview ... they’ll see whom and what was launched into my land, I was in Europe in 1999 - two months before 2000 France had Holland, Belgium, Germany and the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Austria, Poland along the way ... so in the West already then everything was in a huge ass, these niggas are soaring lines that everywhere, gypsies with a beautiful Russian language with their leather jackets at the entrance to the notre - I will give and in general the impression of a huge end to the WESTERN civilization is already beginning ... it’s unfortunate how people for homosexuals and their own woman’s satisfaction the civilization of the female body by Arab and black horses was once again profiled (HOW ROME and other analogues are available)
  17. aba
    +1
    23 June 2016 21: 59
    Yes, in principle, no matter how much the Britons vote, it is not this that determines the fate of the EU, but the lump of problems that have piled on them and which they are not able to solve. So they will have to be solved tomorrow. Or fall apart under their load.
  18. +1
    23 June 2016 22: 12
    In the 90s it was called differently, but not a referendum. The meaning is the same to spread for money the European Union and get preferences, the voting results are already known before the vote. Democracy
  19. +2
    23 June 2016 23: 02
    Sleep well, EU, US watchman on duty.
  20. 0
    24 June 2016 01: 28
    The funny thing is that even if they had voted "for divorce", the procedure for the divorce itself is so complicated and confusing - that the exit point can loom like a guiding star for many years. And under this brand the Small-shavens will continue to twist the arms of Brussels. And they will, for sure. wassat
  21. +1
    24 June 2016 05: 02
    Shock, may miraculous healing happen! laughing
  22. 0
    24 June 2016 05: 23
    the habit of thinking stereotyped sooner or later will bear its toxic effects
  23. 0
    24 June 2016 06: 31
    But who will let them go from the EU?
    No, the whole EU will go to the slaughter, with no options.
  24. 0
    24 June 2016 06: 54
    Something is somehow wrong in the Danish kingdom ...)
  25. 0
    24 June 2016 07: 31
    Suppose the EU collapses, for example, Germany and France are only a plus, because there is no need to pull the countries of southern Europe, how much money will remain, so "not everything is so simple" (C)
    1. 0
      24 June 2016 08: 10
      But it will be interesting to see what Poland and the Baltic states will become. Or the Czech Republic with Slovenia.
  26. 0
    24 June 2016 09: 29
    The EU didn’t fall apart when the mongrel of fsh England came out of it, but when the institution of the family, a traditional marriage between a man and a woman, was canceled in a geyrop for the sake of perverts.
  27. 0
    24 June 2016 10: 41
    It’s no longer shaking, it’s already been purged, people are well aware that the EU is a US colony.