Their fate will be decided by others.

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Some American politicians do not like the behavior of representatives of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA): they say, too slowly and reluctantly investigating cases of doping by athletes from Russia. There is also evidence that WADA is a poor structure: Sharapova will be richer. Meanwhile, the International Olympic Committee supported the decision of the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) to extend the disqualification of Russian athletes at the 2016 Olympic Games. At the same time, the IOC has withdrawn from the decision of the fate of Russian athletes.



US Senator John Toon sent the head of the World Anti-Doping Agency a letter demanding to explain the reasons why the organization did not start the anti-doping investigation against Russia in 2010. About this with reference to The Washington Post writes "RT".

The publication states that as far back as 2010, one former employee of the Russian Anti-Doping Organization (RUSADA) by the name of Stepanov during the Olympic Games in Vancouver appealed to three representatives of WADA. He said that his agency and the Ministry of Sport of Russia helped Russian athletes to hide the use of doping. Later, already in 2014, one employee of the World Anti-Doping Agency realized that his colleagues would not be going to start an investigation, and therefore suggested that Comrade. Stepanov address the journalist H. Zeppelt (Germany). He did not miss the chance and took up a documentary on an exciting sports theme. The film marked the beginning of the doping scandal that continues to this day.

Senator John Toon said in a letter that a “strong and reliable” anti-doping agency is needed to ensure the purity of competitions and honesty in sports. Mr. Senator does not believe in the reliability of WADA: “Unfortunately, recent accusations and the subsequent answer of WADA questioned the strength and reliability of this organization.”

Senator does not believe in the independence of the agency. There is definite proof of this: Craig Reedy, the head of WADA, is also the vice-president of the International Olympic Committee (IOC). “The task of WADA in promoting sports without doping is negatively affected by the links of its leadership with national Olympic committees or ministries of sports, the purpose of which is to increase the competitiveness and the number of medals of a particular country,” concluded the US senator.

At the same time, despite such a warm attitude towards Russian athletes, during the doping scandal, experts have repeatedly expressed the opinion that the behavior of WADA, and other sports organizations, is politicized, since athletes from the Russian Federation mainly check and criticize "Reedus".

Other curious information also appeared: it turns out that WADA is a poor structure: Sharapova will be richer. This was hinted by the WADA leadership itself.

As recalled Life.ru, in a speech at the WADA Symposium, Reedy stated that “the only positive moment in stories with Sharapova's disqualification, she’s earning more money a year than the World Anti-Doping Agency has earned over the entire history. ” Lawyer Sharapova John Heggerti then demanded an apology from Mr. Reedy. Also, the party Sharapova argued that, if not wait for an apology, then go to court.

As stated in the WADA statement, Reedy’s words did not contain anything reprehensible: after all, he spoke about Sharapova not in the context of doping, but about the deplorable financial situation of the agency. "The phrase about Sharapov was taken out of context," the Life quotes the answer of WADA. - Mr. Reedy said that the agency is forced to work in a very tight budget. And cited the example of the case with Sharapova, when they managed to achieve an important result with very modest resources. Comparing the revenues of WADA and Sharapova, Mr Reedy made it clear that the agency needs additional funding. That’s all. Therefore, he has nothing to apologize for. ”

Maria Sharapova earned a million dollars in prize money 36,8 career, notes "Reedus". As for the financial situation of WADA, it was reported by the above-mentioned Senator John Thun. The senator indicated in his letter that in fourteen years the US government transferred WADA at least twenty-five million dollars. Mr. Reedy gives a slightly different number: reports that the annual budget of WADA is 26 million dollars. Craig Reedy says that for the full work of the agency these amounts are not enough. That is why investigations are going slowly.

And one more sport news.

21 June The International Olympic Committee supported the decision of the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) to extend the disqualification of Russian athletes at the Olympic Games 2016 g.

As transmits RIA News", The International Olympic Committee at the summit in Lausanne supported the decision of the IAAF, which had previously upheld the disqualification of the All-Russian Federation of Athletics (VFLA) and removed Russian athletes from international competitions.

According to the head of the IOC, Thomas Bach, the decision on the admission of athletes to competitions by international federations should be made individually. This applies in particular to athletes from Russia and Kenya, whose anti-doping services are deemed inconsistent with the WADA code.

“The presumption of innocence should be applied to athletes from these countries. Each athlete from these countries must be recognized as admitted by an international federation in accordance with the established procedure individually, having received an individual permit, having passed the appropriate tests in accredited laboratories, ”IOC President quotes RIA Novosti.

He also said that the sanctions should apply not only to athletes caught in doping, but also to officials and doctors involved in violations.

The President recalled that Moscow can challenge the decision of the IAAF in the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne.

And most importantly: Bach said that the IOC did not consider the issue of dismissing the Russian Olympic Committee from participation in the Olympic Games-2016.

The main conclusion of the IOC Summit is "Moscow Komsomol": The Russian Olympic Committee is not suspended, therefore, the country is going to the Games, "athletes will compete as an OCD team, since only OCD can contribute athletes to the Olympic Games, because there is no team of international federations."

As for the fate of athletes, nothing has changed so far: only recommendations were made to consider the issue for each athlete individually.

In fact, we add, the IOC refused the final decision on the fate of Russian athletes, pointing the finger at the International Association of Athletics Federations. After all, Thomas Bach was directly asked: will the fans of Russian athletes see at the Games in Rio. Head of the IOC answered like this: “This question should be addressed to the IAAF. First of all, you need to express full support for its decision. We still have to wait for individual solutions from the IAAF. ” In addition, he reasonably recalled that Russia has the right to appeal to the Sports Arbitration Court of disqualification VFLA.

“Athletes will perform at the Olympics as a separate Russian team,” the IOC President said at the summit. - An important criterion will be the fact that these athletes will pass enhanced additional doping tests. Athletes will be able to compete under their national flag. ” And, as noted "Russian newspaper", for the rest of 27 to the national federations of Russia, the issue of participation or non-participation was not raised.

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  1. +8
    22 June 2016 09: 09
    All this fuss reminds me of the fight against corrupt officials - one is possible, but not the other.
    1. +22
      22 June 2016 09: 18
      The senator also does not believe in the independence of the agency.

      And I don’t believe it! Too much at precisely the right moment appeared, and meldonium and custom-made investigations, all this smells very bad.
      1. +10
        22 June 2016 12: 24
        The NHL, the NBA and the multi-sporting organizations in the states put a bolt on the doping agency.

        And our football players were forbidden to play football in the Crimea and bureaucrats took under the hood! Independent!
        Well, you can’t play football in the Crimea, big boys from Europe do not allow!

        Blacks play basketball, soccer in Russia !!!!
        Our Russian negros)))

        Divorce it all. For the money. For a lot of money.


      2. +3
        22 June 2016 16: 46
        Nuuu guys, you can’t be so selective in the fight against doping.
        I am with both hands for the fight ... and from here the IOC decision should be as follows:
        "Due to the fact that athletics is the most susceptible to doping scandals, we consider it necessary to exclude this sport from the Olympic program." ...
      3. +2
        22 June 2016 16: 46
        Nuuu guys, you can’t be so selective in the fight against doping.
        I am with both hands for the fight ... and from here the IOC decision should be as follows:
        "Due to the fact that athletics is the most susceptible to doping scandals, we consider it necessary to exclude this sport from the Olympic program." ...
        1. 0
          22 June 2016 22: 12
          Quote: NIKNN
          "Due to the fact that athletics is the most susceptible to doping scandals, we consider it necessary to exclude this sport from the Olympic program."

          Double standards in action. What is permitted to Jupiter is not permitted to the bull!
      4. vv3
        +3
        22 June 2016 18: 30
        And now about our sheep! About the leaders of sports and athletes of our country. Explain to me that you are discussing everything and what is the issue, I personally do not understand anything? If, this international federation of athletes has decided to disqualify our team, then this decision should be based on a document from an international anti-doping organization indicating specific facts of violations with surnames , dates and copies of decision protocols signed by specific people with seals. Who saw this document when it was officially presented to our officials from the sport along with the decision of the federation, again with surnames and signatures? Who secretly violated? Where are these documents on the Internet and their translation? All this reminds the theater of the absurd, that we are discussing, what solution, where is it? Hence, if there is no such information, then who is lying? I see 2 options. Either we really are to blame and they hide these documents from us. And the second option, that we were more accurately divorced by our officials, is like suckers and the level of their professionalism is not zero, but just minus. What is the conversation about, where are the facts ? What are you all discussing? Interviews in the press, some films, it doesn’t work. Where are the materials? ...
      5. +1
        22 June 2016 23: 17
        It is clear to Koza that recently the US state looks rather pale against the background of the Russian state, which has become like a lump in the throat for the US. Not knowing how to spoil Russia even more, the United States bought all sorts of "MOKs" on the root, so no legal norms and common sense will be accepted by Western officials. For them, a newspaper "duck" will be enough to "roll into asphalt" our entire Olympic team on this "basis". The slogan "On sport - you are the world" was changed by the USA into "On sport - you are politics". This was the case during the Soviet era, where sports, both from our side and from the Western countries, were one of the fronts of the Cold War. The Cold War is over, this front remains. One thing is not clear: it was different, but then the United States did not reach such obscenity, but now it has slipped to meldonium, what? then were you afraid of something? And now everything can be done with Russia? Our officials from sports should be driven in three necks. They don't "catch mice" at all. Profuse meldonium! I am convinced that none of the sports officials knows what to do next with meldonium and what to do next with our sport. The United States has groped our weak spot and hit there, and they devour not sickly salaries and babble something unintelligible on the "box". And the hysteria in our football! I am far from a fan of this game, but I have to pay multi-million dollar fees to players and stray coaches, and send the yard team to dishonor !! As the saying goes: "Where is the money, Zin?" And where are the results?
    2. +9
      22 June 2016 09: 19
      A banal political order, as well as for the 1980 Olympics. The difference is that the politicians in power made decisions there, they act through a specially created body. In any case, hundreds of people were ruined by life.
      In the positive: they’re afraid - they mean respect, they’re afraid of shitting openly, the people will sober up a little as a result of the lack of recounting of the won awards and, perhaps, at least some will think not about the puffed chips, but about the real state of affairs in international relations and their true identity.
    3. +15
      22 June 2016 09: 20
      big sport died, as soon as everything spun around a lot of money.
      1. 0
        22 June 2016 10: 09
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        big sport died, as soon as everything spun around a lot of money.

        Andryukh, big sport has been an industry for a long time, and probably how much money is spinning and the sports functionaries themselves really don’t know. On June 24, 2015, the four-time Olympic champion Aleksey Nemov hosted a grand reception, Friends of big sport: 10 years together. Thanksgiving Ceremony ”, at which eminent Russian athletes will reward business representatives for their contribution to the development of the domestic sports industry. The general partners of the event were Mercedes-Benz and IWC Schaffhausen watch manufactory. The general media partners are Russia 2, Sport FM and Soviet Sport.
        1. 0
          22 June 2016 19: 57
          And what on the first photo she is not in a swimsuit? Well, who so advertises cars ...
          and generally a model that is not in a swimsuit
    4. +1
      22 June 2016 10: 30
      This is not fuss, but the destruction of sovereignty. In addition to the "brain drain", there will now be a "muscle drain".
      1. +4
        22 June 2016 12: 04
        Quote: iouris
        This is not fuss, but the destruction of sovereignty.

        This fuss on sovereignty does not affect. Well, the security services bit. Our sovereignty is not affected in any way. The supremacy of power within the country has been preserved, the borders have not changed, the independence of foreign policy has been preserved.
        Quote: iouris
        In addition to the "brain drain", there will now be a "muscle drain".

        Here, colleague, I disagree with you. Mutko, as if he was not negatively "promoted", fights for his own people, tries to provide everything necessary, fusses, maybe he is not a manager with a capital letter, but he tries. In any case, it was not he who lost D. Domracheva, but acquired the Korean An, Amer Vic V., who were performing under the flag of the Russian Federation. There is no particular threat of muscle leakage, there are Olympic reserve schools in all regions, and nuggets are being moved further. There is no limit to perfection, but Mutko is trying, so he probably became an object for jokes. Mutko will not allow muscle leaks. And the bloopers behind anyone can be found. By the way, these "bloopers" from the heart, and not to create an image or some sort of pretentiousness or for PR. It is always easier to criticize, but to create ... My subjective opinion, I do not impose on anyone.
        1. +3
          22 June 2016 15: 06
          It's always easier to criticize, but to create ...


          And what did Mutko create?

          To destroy the athletics stadium and in its place to build a football is it to create or destroy?
          Can you answer why it was destroyed?

          Mutko can answer why residents of the Crimea can not play football in the Russian World Cup?

          Does his need make him sit in several chairs?
          Two work with the poor fellow in order to feed the family?
          1. -1
            22 June 2016 15: 31
            You are talking in a parable about the point of Socrates. How many stadiums were built at Mutko? Including FOCs in areas. Another thing is what happened during their construction and after. In general, colleague, you are likened to WADA, IAAF and IOC trying to blame only Mutko for all the omissions of the Ministry. I do not protect him, but in my opinion, he is trying. Another thing is how the team works. And the one who does nothing is not mistaken, although he must be responsible for the work of the team. But it could always be worse.
            1. +4
              22 June 2016 16: 51
              I do not care about Mutko-Shmutko and others.
              The fact is that the minister is obliged to create a system of work for his ministry. Set specific goals. And make sure that the goals are achieved.
              I repeat, it’s violet to me what is the minister’s last name.

              Called a cargo - climb into the box.

              This person too often makes excuses and spends his energy searching for reasons why it has not been done.

              He is a minister. With him, and demand.

              And with sports in our country a complete ass.

              I have two daughters - masters of sports.
              So there is an idea of ​​the situation.
              And there are memories of the old system.
        2. 0
          23 June 2016 13: 10
          Quote: Mole
          This fuss on sovereignty does not affect.

          This is not a "fuss", but a serious operation with far-reaching consequences. In recent years, “getting up from its knees” has been demonstrated to the population, mainly through sports and foreign policy steps. The perception and participation of the masses in the foreign policy of the state is understood through the prism of fan movements ("Spartacus is the champion!"). Now, according to the logic of actions, WADA and the IOC of the Russian Federation will be deprived of the right to send teams of athletes to the Olympic battles for many years.
          How the "fans" will react to this is an important question. But, most importantly, among those working exclusively for unjustifiably big money,
          professional athletes, of whom not only idols were created, but who were also introduced to the "elite", fermentation will begin. Many of them don't know how to do anything anymore and will run to speak for other countries, start making "revealing" statements, ie will be dirty.
          As for the role of Mutko personally, I am not a judge and not a prosecutor, but I need to understand his steps: what is more of incompetence or intent. Without a lot of money, she will not be able to influence the situation in any way, and this money will no longer be.
      2. +1
        22 June 2016 16: 18
        Quote: iouris
        This is not fuss, but the destruction of sovereignty. In addition to the "brain drain", there will now be a "muscle drain".

        My fellow villager Grisha - Igo "shohu" for the front bumper raises and killed the horse in his youth with his fist, hence the nickname, is not going to flow away anywhere. Although it is pure muscle, no meldonium. It's time to remember that apart from the sport of the highest achievements and all the dirt associated with it, there is the life of ordinary people. And everyone is eating doping. This is understandable even without Armstrong.
    5. 0
      22 June 2016 11: 46
      Quote: Mole
      All this fuss reminds me of the fight against corrupt officials - one is possible, but not the other.

      It's just that even corrupt officials are smart and stupid. It is quite obvious that without doping it is impossible to achieve serious results in sports today. And the sports leaders of our country have only two ways. The first, from my point of view - the preferred one - is to actively fight, if not for elimination, then at least for reducing the use of doping. The second is careful monitoring of the situation and immediate action if the very possibility of a situation arises that we have today. And if we think exclusively about financial benefits and hope that everything will be possible to resolve, we will have what we have. Indeed, in life, as it is not surprising for some, sometimes situations still arise when it is not possible to solve the issue with money.
      1. 0
        22 June 2016 12: 39
        Quote: Verdun

        It's just that even corrupt officials are smart and stupid. It is quite obvious that without doping it is impossible to achieve serious results in sports today. And the sports leaders of our country have only two ways. The first, from my point of view - the preferred one - is to actively fight, if not for elimination, then at least for reducing the use of doping. The second is careful monitoring of the situation and immediate action if the very possibility of a situation arises that we have today. And if we think exclusively about financial benefits and hope that everything will be possible to resolve, we will have what we have. Indeed, in life, as it is not surprising for some, sometimes situations still arise when it is not possible to solve the issue with money.

        This is from the category of who is cooler in SDI, how it ended everyone knows. Nekh.r try to answer. But to work proactively, colleague, I agree with you. You cannot be in time everywhere and everywhere. Clicked the moment. But not fatal. There is no threat to sovereignty, but there are excellent prospects for a PR company in the spirit of "spread rot for Our sovereignty."
    6. 0
      22 June 2016 15: 39
      Professional sport is a business. And business is not fair by definition.
  2. SSR
    +1
    22 June 2016 09: 10
    Although the last phrase should sound a little different
    - Will Brazil see money from Russia and fans.
    1. Hon
      +3
      22 June 2016 09: 15
      Quote from S.S.R.
      - Will Brazil see money from Russia and fans.

      and this is the problem of Brazil, IOC she's on the drum
    2. +3
      22 June 2016 09: 59
      Quote from S.S.R.
      will Brazil see money from Russia and fans.

      I think I've already seen. Hotels and flights were booked in advance, and most likely at "battened down" and non-refundable tariffs. Now I looked at the availability of rooms in Rio hotels, from August 5 a week of stay for one person from 150 thousand rubles, up to 3 million 300 thousand, depending on the hotel class.
  3. +12
    22 June 2016 09: 14
    Money rules the world. And sports too ...
    All for the development of mass PHYSICAL CULTURE! Sports ground in every yard!
    1. +5
      22 June 2016 09: 36
      Quote: Engineer sapper
      Money rules the world. And sports too ...
      All for the development of mass PHYSICAL CULTURE! Sports ground in every yard!


      Money rules greedy, but not all of them in the world. As for the big sport, you are completely on your side. Moreover, I consider the sport of high achievements harmful both to the health of people and athletes. Some are strangled by doping and biochemical food, injured, while others drink beer and vodka on TVs, counting medals and scandals.
      Therefore, "Everything is for the development of mass physical culture! A sports ground in every yard!" plus a qualified coach to every yard!
    2. +4
      22 June 2016 11: 32
      Here they are golden words, the health of the nation begins with a yard sports ground. Catch a plus ...
      1. +1
        22 June 2016 15: 14
        Therefore, "Everything is for the development of mass physical culture! A sports ground in every yard!" plus a qualified coach to every yard!


        You can start with schools.
        It’s time to return the teacher-trainers there.
        Sports sections, sports grounds, equipment and competitions for schools of all levels.

        And let the blacks in their Africa drive the ball.
        Gazprom needs OUR money not to invest in blacks but in schools, in the health of our children.
  4. +2
    22 June 2016 09: 15
    The decision speaks of cowardice, venality and shortsightedness of the IOC and IAAF..Well, it’s time for comrades from Russia to think up mirror answers to vile attempts to mock the Great Country-Russia ..
    1. +3
      22 June 2016 09: 31
      in recent years, the rulers have thrown billions into "sport", starting with Sochi, what kind of return do we see? bow-legged asthmatic football players ... biathletes who miss three meters into the bathhouse (and they don't ski), the World Cup-18 is in question , I think the bourgeoisie will do everything so as not to spend with us, the flywheel of "sports" sanctions is starting to spin up. Everything is just beginning ... but the futmillionaires don't care, they have already ensured themselves a comfortable old age ..
      1. 0
        22 June 2016 10: 03
        In a parallel topic about the exam, it was written: Why study when you can make money playing football? Do we need such football?
      2. +6
        22 June 2016 11: 29
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        futmillionaires, all do not care

        Adopt at the legislative level.
        1) Failure to play for the national team without cause. The penalty is 90% of the annual salary.
        2) Absenteeism in the final part of the tournament is a penalty of 70% of the annual salary.
        3) Absenteeism from the group - a penalty of 60% of the annual salary.
        4) Departure at 1 / 8- penalty 40%
        3) Departure at 1 / 4- penalty 20%
        And for the medals it’s already being awarded, as well as for scored / repelled balls and useful actions in defense.
        Something like that.
        1. +1
          22 June 2016 12: 36
          Quote: Garris199
          Adopt at the legislative level.

          In order to begin to develop team sports, such as football and hockey, it is necessary to prohibit the recruitment of legionnaires into teams by law. From the word "in general". Then and only then the owners of the teams will start thinking about the development of children's and youth sports, without which there are no decent results for national teams. And all this talk about the fact that looking at the game of the invited Varangians, children are eager to come to sports - this is for fools. Well, the child will light up with desire, but where to go, especially if the parents do not have money? Into the gateway?
    2. +1
      22 June 2016 10: 11
      Quote: Evil 55
      Well, it’s time for the comrades from Russia to think over mirror answers to vile attempts to mock the Great Country-Russia ..


      The “comrades” of Kudrin and Medvedev have a mirrored answer for a long time - to crawl to the West in “reverse gear” and “settle down” in secondary roles.
  5. +8
    22 June 2016 09: 15
    It is just necessary to deal with the defectors, who, out of their mercantile interests (one needs to live abroad for something), were instigators, with the filing of the Western special services, all this bodyagi. Yes, and the best lawyers simply need to be attracted to initiate legal proceedings against the IAAF, and against the IOC, whose politicization is visible even with the naked eye.
    1. +6
      22 June 2016 10: 01
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It is just necessary to deal with the defectors, who, out of their mercantile interests (one needs to live abroad for something), were instigators, with the filing of the Western special services, all this bodyagi. Yes, and the best lawyers simply need to be attracted to initiate legal proceedings against the IAAF, and against the IOC, whose politicization is visible even with the naked eye.


      The advice is good, but not very effective.

      It is necessary that the "South Ossetian special services" tore Assange out of captivity and, under his guise, "suspend" all figures from the sports bureaucracy on compromising evidence. Then they will become sane. We need to work on this issue. The "honesty" of incorruptible fighters for the purity of sports directly depends on the prospect of public hanging of dirty diapers of every sports and sports functionary and all other booms.
    2. 0
      22 June 2016 10: 57
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It’s just necessary to deal with defectors,

      How about Trotsky? wink They have already done their dirty work. Most likely, there is no smoke without fire. And I don't really want to spend money on lawyers from the taxes I paid. Western intelligence services, for sure, were the instigators. And yet, it is more dear to me to observe the "victories" of the amerovsky special services in the sports bureaucracy than on our borders and approaches to them, not to mention the "victories" in Russia. Most likely, this blow "on the sly" speaks of their degradation.
      1. 0
        22 June 2016 19: 02
        However, if you do not respond to such visits, you can subsequently participate in the World Championship among unrecognized republics. Ksati, with our current roster with minimal chances to win in it. Have you heard about this?



        FOOTBALL June 6, 2016, Monday. 02:42
        Abkhazia won the World Cup among unrecognized states

        The final match of the World Cup among unrecognized states took place in Abkhazia. The hosts of the tournament and the Punjab team (a historical region whose territories are divided between India and Pakistan) met in a decisive meeting. The main and extra time of the match ended in a draw - 1: 1, and in the penalty shootout the Abkhazian players turned out to be more accurate - 6: 5.

        Thus, Abkhazia became the world champion among unrecognized states. The bronze medalist of the tournament was the team of Northern Cyprus, which, with a score of 2: 0, defeated the Fall team in the match for third place.

        The championship was held by the Confederation of Independent Football Associations (ConIFA) with the participation of unrecognized states and peoples, minorities and regions affiliated with FIFA.
  6. 0
    22 June 2016 09: 18
    It is early to say, but, nevertheless, a local victory was won over the political-bureaucratic machine.
    It is clear that in the foreground is politics, additional sanctions (the most ill, perhaps), but:
    Who will be responsible for the mess in sports and in sports circles? Or again according to the principle "and this has already happened before me." The proposal of the deputies to introduce criminal liability for the use and compulsion to take doping is nonsense. It is enough to add a number of these drugs to the list of prohibited ones and equate to narcotic ones and those who want to eat for the sake of victories, oh, how will it decrease.
  7. +3
    22 June 2016 09: 19
    Not an international organization, but some sort of politicized gang.
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  8. +3
    22 June 2016 09: 20
    We have something to be proud of - we are already a TREND, a scarecrow for all of humanity. They have already used the last resources - let them be shitty, but Russia must be destroyed. But Russia is not in a hurry, and the President is sane. Yes they went. drinks It will be bad - crawl, share cookies.
    1. +2
      22 June 2016 09: 57
      Quote: iliitch
      We have something to be proud of - we are already a TREND,

      a trend, a direction, well, or a flow in a certain direction, a stream, a thrust or something, here the definition of "brand" probably fits ...
      Quote: iliitch
      Yes they went.

      let it go ... drinks
      1. +1
        22 June 2016 12: 03
        Andrei Yuryevich, I still distinguish the trend from the brand, wrote it correctly, we are dragging these wretched, underdeveloped morally. And the problems themselves are higher than the roof, but pull. Yes they went. The fate of Russia is such, poor to help.
        Damn, I haven't drunk for a long time, but I'll go for "Zhiguli", something in the subject, I'll drink to the poor. Again, the don woblochka is available, a friend adjusted ... drinks
        1. +2
          22 June 2016 14: 01
          Valery. I as an ordinary inhabitant perceive: TREND as trindezh (well, I will not translate it into Russian at all), BRAND as branding, that is, strumming. I think YOU will understand me. With respect.
          1. 0
            22 June 2016 15: 11
            Quote: Starik72
            Valery. I as an ordinary inhabitant perceive: TREND as trindezh (well, I will not translate it into Russian at all), BRAND as branding, that is, strumming. I think YOU will understand me. With respect.


            What did you want to be chewed on the shelves here? This is on other branches. There, professionals will settle everything and show pictures. And here people express their opinion. And what's wrong with that? Culturally, sometimes courteously. Write in a box so that people do not strain once again, dear, damn it. What do you write yourself? Sincerely, An ordinary layman. hi
            1. +1
              22 June 2016 23: 09
              Valery! I thought YOU understand me, and YOU turned out to be even more philistine than I! Sincerely.
              1. 0
                22 June 2016 23: 26
                Quote: Starik72
                YOU turned out to be even more philistine than I! Sincerely.


                So I have a samovar on the table with a bit of sugar, and geranium on the windowsill. The pepper is clear, we are the inhabitants. laughing
  9. 0
    22 June 2016 09: 23
    Yes, there is no need to guess where the ears grow from, our "partners" are trying so hard, striped ones like that.
  10. +2
    22 June 2016 09: 26
    Comrades! Of course, I am for fair fight in sports, but then let's be honest to the end. If you have caught our athlete by the hand and "advertise" it to the whole world, then let's see what is going on behind the scenes among Americans, Europeans, etc. We may consider cases of using stem cells by Americans, British, etc. (the information has been covered by the press more than once ). Hypocrites. angry
    1. 0
      22 June 2016 13: 17
      Quote: Siberian
      Comrades! Of course, I am for fair fight in sports, but then let's be honest to the end. If you have caught our athlete by the hand and "advertise" it to the whole world, then let's see what is going on behind the scenes among Americans, Europeans, etc. We may consider cases of using stem cells by Americans, British, etc. (the information has been covered by the press more than once ). Hypocrites.


      This is just stupid defamation of our country. Figuratively - they threw their shit at us and screamed that the Russians were crap. Everything, kirdyk to the Olympic movement, Coubertin turned over in his grave, not about what he was thinking.
      Russia, damn it, are going to isolate. Maybe it's better to isolate yourself from these homosexuals? To disgust from there did not climb. And what, option, thanks to the sanctions - we will soon be 100% self-sufficient. Well, except for coconut bananas, so African friends will always be found. And the Olympics, as one comrade wrote here, can hold the BRICS, and the Customs Union can, too, once such a booze has passed. The main thing is not to retreat, vadu-shmadu nah, darmreds from the IOC nah, create your own, allies will be found.
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      2. +1
        22 June 2016 15: 55
        I would generally prohibit athletes from participating in the Olympics after they received the league title. Reached the highest award - go teach youth.
  11. +8
    22 June 2016 09: 27
    I have long believed that if an organization's name contains the words "World" or "International" ("World Trade Organization", "International Agency for Reconstruction and Development", "World Anti-Doping Agency", etc.), it should be read as "completely lying under 3,14ndostan",
    1. 0
      23 June 2016 18: 06
      Quote: iury.vorgul
      I have long believed that if an organization's name contains the words "World" or "International" ("World Trade Organization", "International Agency for Reconstruction and Development", "World Anti-Doping Agency", etc.), it should be read as "completely lying under 3,14ndostan",
  12. HAM
    +1
    22 June 2016 09: 49
    Even if our "CLEAN" athletes go to OI16, it doesn't matter they will not be given normal to compete: either the fans are not like that, then the "sticks" of the wrong system, then "Borjomi" cannot be drunk. The pressure will be to the fullest, from the sly-method is tested, effective.
    PS China is next in turn .....
  13. +3
    22 June 2016 09: 51
    When professional sports finally crushed the Olympic Games, the Olympic Games ended and the show began. The main participation is now in the past. Previously, the Olympics were attracted by cleanliness, now they are in shit. If track and field athletes are clogged, the team should not go and make every effort to submit the correct claims to the human rights arbitration. I propose to organize my own laboratories competing with Vada. To make fences of analyzes at the Anglo-Saxons at their competitions - compromising evidence will be provided.
  14. +2
    22 June 2016 09: 53
    The United States has spoiled everywhere it touched, at least sideways.
    1. 0
      22 June 2016 10: 11
      But on each muck the others raised profits. And so it will be until they lose the meaning of their actions, namely, the gain of their athletes.
      Relatively speaking (why not dream), if tomorrow all US athletes lose the opportunity to win (break their legs, burn off their mildronata, get diarrhea, ZIKA fever, etc.), this will be a blow to AI. Let the athletes of Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, etc., win.
    2. 0
      22 June 2016 10: 11
      But on each muck the others raised profits. And so it will be until they lose the meaning of their actions, namely, the gain of their athletes.
      Relatively speaking (why not dream), if tomorrow all US athletes lose the opportunity to win (break their legs, burn off their mildronata, get diarrhea, ZIKA fever, etc.), this will be a blow to AI. Let the athletes of Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, etc., win.
  15. 0
    22 June 2016 10: 26
    Here are the statistics of the results of doping tests for 2013. The nameplate is uncomfortable in format. We are not the best there. Most of the samples are taken from us and from the Chinese.
    PS Open the tablet in a separate tab to see.
  16. 0
    22 June 2016 10: 29
    Here is a table of statistics for 2014.
    1. 0
      22 June 2016 11: 03
      Quote: Altona
      Here is a table of statistics for 2014.

      brrr ... the logic of quantity of tests is not clear. smile
      But in essence, if all this is so important, then the "discoverers" are a flaw in our special services.
      If the majority of disqualifications for meldonium are where the doctors, trainers and decision-makers looked.
      1. +2
        22 June 2016 13: 52
        Quote: Des10
        brrr ... the logic of quantity of tests is not clear.

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        Most often they take from winners, as I understand it. If you look at the table, then there is the maximum number of samples from Russia, China, the USA and Germany. But we take with China almost twice as often (14 and 13 thousand against 8 and 9 thousand from them). So think, where is the logic.
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  17. 0
    22 June 2016 10: 54
    Russia's position has weakened absolutely everywhere. And sport is only an indicator of Russia's position in international politics.
  18. 0
    22 June 2016 10: 55
    Quote: Mole
    All this fuss reminds me of the fight against corrupt officials - one is possible, but not the other.

    You need to remember that almost all modern athletes take doping. There are such achievements that an ordinary person can’t do. Just some (richer) take fairly new dope, which are not yet banned, and change every time a ban is issued. Their chemistry is set , they already have a reserve of reserve drugs — which are NOT officially DOPING now.
    Others (the poor, or their budget was cleverly cut) accept the old ones already banned, or they have already laid eyes on them from VAD. And they come across! It’s useless to fight doping, you need to develop chemistry. the same meldonium). what hi
    1. +3
      22 June 2016 11: 14
      Meldonium is not a stimulant, but, on the contrary, does not allow the heart muscle to go to beyond the limits. So this is anti-doping, and he became a dope only because only our athletes use it. Westerners can also use a similar drug, but it is called girlfriend.
    2. +1
      22 June 2016 14: 12
      Andrey.Meldoniy for more than 30 years was a medicine that helped people, but at the moment, that is, in the last half of the year, he suddenly became DOPING. You did not think about why, just think and answer, at least to yourself. With respect.
      1. 0
        22 June 2016 20: 21
        Yes, and this winter I had to sit on a needle with meldonium, unfortunately. recourse But now I'm in one bond with our athletes! fellow Who would have thought! By the way, the nurses, when I told them that it was a dope, they did not believe me and almost made me laugh. Now, probably, they no longer laugh.
  19. +2
    22 June 2016 11: 02
    Americans, like yard sabaks, stick their nose everywhere and everywhere, but a bear has appeared in the neighboring forest, now it just remains to bark and whine viciously at the whole district
  20. +1
    22 June 2016 11: 54
    They cannot defeat us in a fair battle, the enemies are afraid of us and they are doing various intrigues. But good and Holy Russia will defeat black obscurantism !!! We will win, comrades. With us, Putin and Stalin !!!
  21. +5
    22 June 2016 11: 58
    First, Rogozin blurted out to the whole world that Russia is a backward country in the space direction and that Russia would never catch up with the United States, this is with the intensity of missile launches in Russia compared to the rest of the world. Then Zakharova took pity on the US fagots in Orlando and named the freaks of her compatriots who did not support her. Well, Mutko didn’t react at all to the illegal ban of meldonium, although he could write only one correctly composed letter of reply and the question with meldonium would be removed immediately and forever, but now it is lamented that WADA is right and the disqualification is almost undeniable. The closer the elections, the more pronounced the enemies and their activities become. It remains to add that the Olympic Games in Brazil may with a high degree of probability not take place. The Brazilian media seriously began to discuss this in connection with the lack of money in the country.
    1. +1
      22 June 2016 13: 01
      Quote: bogdan4ik
      Well, Mutko didn’t react at all to the illegal ban of meldonium, although he could write only one correctly composed letter of reply and the question with meldonium would be removed immediately and forever, but now it is lamented that WADA is right and the disqualification is almost undeniable.

      Colleague, how is it possible to remove the issue with meldonium immediately and forever if those who make decisions in WADA are already charged for a different result? According to your logic: should Shoigu write a letter of reply to the deployment of a missile defense system in Europe and there will be no missile defense in Europe? belay
    2. +1
      22 June 2016 13: 58
      Quote: bogdan4ik
      Well, Mutko didn’t react at all to the illegal ban of meldonium, although he could write only one correctly composed letter of reply and the question with meldonium would be removed immediately and forever, but now it is lamented that WADA is right and the disqualification is almost undeniable.

      ----------------
      Now, in sports, Mutko is not needed with jokes like "London from Olways in May Hart", but like Lavrov or Shoigu, who can directly cut down an opponent. As Lavrov once said: "Well, I asked Kerry in an informal direct text," why do you need Al-Nusra? To dump Assad? To which Kerry shook his head in fright and began to deny. "This is how the questions should be put. Or like Gerasimov:" The United States cannot decide where its own, and where are foreign "oppositionists" and we, too, are running out of patience. "This is a conversation. We have agreed to accept WADA's terms Accepted? Receive.
  22. +1
    22 June 2016 12: 24
    as everywhere there are double standards of information supply, nevertheless Russophobia and persecution of Russia is a favorite western horse, is it worth tearing your heart and nerves, you only need to do your job and most importantly on time ...
  23. 0
    22 June 2016 12: 40
    Americans stupidly sucked Russian athletes. This is what the whole world should constantly and openly talk about.
  24. 0
    22 June 2016 12: 40
    Quote: Altona
    Here is a table of statistics for 2014.

    Is it really not a fake? Is it really so impudently ran into us? Well, I certainly assumed, but so ...
    Just no words.
    Is there a 15 year sign?
    It is possible a massive sampling of analyzes and samples has given its crop now. This suggests that ours did not resist control. If there are jambs, then it is on the conscience of the team doctors. The detected flights of ours are minimal, if we consider the correctness of the laid out tables.
    1. 0
      22 June 2016 20: 27
      Tell me, Ivan65, but do you think Greenpeace also protects nature? Or fulfills orders? Do not strain, this is a joke. A large number of international organizations with beautiful names have actually been created and are working for some selfish purpose.
  25. +1
    22 June 2016 14: 31
    Sport turned into BUSINESS and became subject to POLICY !!! All that is happening this hour is pure POLITICS and no sport! And NAZHIVA and MONEY are in command here, and of course "White and Fluffy, Exceptional" USA. The trouble came to SPORT when PROFESSIONALS and AMATEURS were brought together !!! Forgive the BROTHERS for speaking with slogans. It is sick. Please do not judge strictly. Respectfully.
  26. +1
    22 June 2016 15: 05
    Quote: Starik72
    Sport has turned into BUSINESS and has become subject to POLICY !!! All that is happening is pure POLICY and not a sport!

    Sport is business. Where there is money, there is politics. Not a single revolution took place because the upper classes cannot rule according to the new, and the lower classes cannot live according to the old, everywhere it was "smeared" with money. The money invested should be profitable.
    In general, the profit of some athletes has long crossed all conceivable boundaries. Another financial bubble is inflated.
    I stopped watching the game of the football team after the game with Armenia, in my opinion for access to the Euro. The guys from Armenia showed that they have a spirit. Although they lacked skill, they compensated for this shortcoming with their energy. After the final whistle, they only had the strength to reach the locker room. We only tried Semak and Dzagoev. In hockey, players break, they bite with their teeth, but go on the ice and play. Thus, hockey players should be taken at least to the football team. wink or fans ...
    You can’t buy a spirit for money.
  27. vv3
    +2
    22 June 2016 17: 10
    And now about our sheep! About the leaders of sports and athletes of our country. Explain to me that you are discussing everything and what is the issue, I personally do not understand anything? If, this international federation of athletes has decided to disqualify our team, then this decision should be based on a document from an international anti-doping organization indicating specific facts of violations with surnames , dates and copies of decision protocols signed by specific people with seals. Who saw this document when it was officially presented to our officials from the sport along with the decision of the federation, again with surnames and signatures? Who secretly violated? Where are these documents on the Internet and their translation? All this reminds the theater of the absurd, that we are discussing, what solution, where is it? Hence, if there is no such information, then who is lying? I see 2 options. Either we really are to blame and they hide these documents from us. And the second option, that we were more accurately divorced by our officials, is like suckers and the level of their professionalism is not zero, but just minus. What is the conversation about, where are the facts ? What are you all discussing? Interviews in the press, some films, it doesn’t work. Where are the materials? ...
  28. 0
    22 June 2016 17: 12
    Enemies want to bring Russia to its knees. But nobody succeeded! Because the truth is on our side!
    True and spiritual purity, in contrast to the Western rot, which the liberals want to bring here.
  29. vv3
    +1
    22 June 2016 17: 33
    I quickly read on the Internet how our athletes were unprovenly deprived of awards, there are no documents, decisions, nothing to go to court. What our officials do, or rather they don’t do anything, they don’t answer for anything. Like this Mutko didn’t go to advice, what kind of degenerate is it? Who defends the interests of our athletes, who defends them, why documentary support of claims is not controlled. Where to go to courts, to ours, because the rights of our citizens are violated, to international, because there is no evidence and there are no texts of certified decisions. They that all these officials drank the brains from the sport?
  30. vv3
    0
    22 June 2016 17: 51
    And how many lawyers, economists, doctors we have in the fraternity of sports officials. Look, ride around the world, sleep in hotels, eat in restaurants and do nothing. They sit like furniture in international forums, they don’t even know the language, don’t report to anyone, they wipe their feet about the athletes, they can’t help with anything, but it’s easy to do harm. It’s time for the prosecutor’s office and other structures to take up their activities! And we from the Internet will also see what and how.
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  32. vv3
    +1
    22 June 2016 18: 20
    Dear forum users, and now about officials in the army ... Everyone must have heard a joke about a submarine in the steppes of Kazakhstan. So, this is not a joke. With the reduction of armaments with the United States under the SALT agreement, some wise guy signed the agreement without having understood all the details. We took old foreign generals and thieves, not competent experts, into foreign business trips. Maybe I exaggerate, but not very much. They traveled for clothes and impressions, not to protect the interests of the Motherland. Americans have a significant number of aircraft in the Navy, we have very few .. .bylo. In the agreement, the total number of planes coincides, but they had to be distributed, like the Americans. And we had to, some of the pilots urgently transferred to the fleet and changed clothes at the same time in the marine uniform. That's how an aviation regiment in the steppes of Kazakhstan turned into a fleet ... And this is not the worst mistake, there were many others, some of them, your humble servant, experienced in their own skin, as they say ... The Soviet Union was ruined by corrupt and stupid generals. I he saw it with his own eyes ... And now? ..
  33. 0
    22 June 2016 21: 44
    I agree! They bent Russia in full! And our officials only degenerate their "cozheleniya" - on which "everyone who is behind this nabig" should deeply give a damn! And so it will be until we return ourselves that "that was taken from us" ....
  34. 0
    22 June 2016 22: 02
    Hello everybody! Personally, my opinion is: NEH to do there! On the basis of our frank lies about doping and real discrimination, I would categorically forbid the participation of any athlete in the Russian Federation !!!
    As an option, such prostitutes can easily be cracked !!! For example, to create a Eurasian Olympic Games))) Yes, it’s expensive, but China and India will help !!! Asia I think it will be, Africa as an option ... And there Europeans will think about their nerd Sam))) IMHO.
  35. +2
    23 June 2016 05: 02
    It is immediately clear that Sharapova overeating meldonium. Serena Williams does not take any anabolic steroids, all she eats is pure American drugs, tested by doping commissions, she has a natural, harmoniously built body.
  36. +1
    23 June 2016 14: 35
    I don’t understand that the global anti-doping agency is commercial and is designed to make money, or should they control and stop attempts to use doping ??? Here is the whole essence of the West from all to make mani.
  37. 0
    23 June 2016 18: 31
    Only about two eminent athletes with Russian citizenship: Sharapova and Efimova. Both live and train in the United States, Sharapova, for more than 10 years. Surely they were repeatedly invited to change the flag, did not agree - get meldonium. More than sure that otherwise, there would have been no problems in principle.
    1. +1
      23 June 2016 18: 33
      Quote: trantor
      Surely they were repeatedly asked to change the flag, did not agree - get meldonium

      Rectal laughing
      but in general ,
      Did they take it under narcosis?
      Or like everyone else - the heart was treated wink
      The only person to whom meldonium was prescribed is the football team.
      It is also accepted in post-stroke conditions. laughing
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  39. 0
    23 June 2016 18: 50
    About Sports - You are the World !!!
  40. 0
    23 June 2016 20: 31
    And you want, dear sophorumniki, I’ll tell you an even more heartbreaking story. Right now, I’ll cry a bit, in the morning tears and snot and tell ... Right now ...

    Yeah. Listen up. As established by British scholars, the state of Italy is located on the Apennine Peninsula, which protrudes in a boot-like manner into the Mediterranean Sea. And there is the city of Parma in it, and not far from it, in a small town whose name will not tell you anything, there lives a certain Giuseppe H. 68 years old with his wife Francesca, who recently turned 65. Their age has nothing to do with our history and is given only in order to be sorry.

    And so, it means that these same Giuseppe and Francesca have always been true friends at first of the Soviet Union, and then of Russia. And they always supported all peace-loving actions and, earlier, the world's first socialist state, and now, the last hope of God, as they call Russia on a poster hung on the highway along which the Great Leader goes to work. And, it should be noted, portraits of the leader in all forms - in a suit, and topless, and on a horse, and kissing a fish, and heading Siberian Cranes - hang in all the rooms of a modest house of a simple Italian worker.

    And this Giuseppe is working on his farm, where he produces milk, from which he makes - do not be scared, please - cheese with the terrible name parmesan. Well, that's how it has historically been. He didn’t know before that the reptile Khrushchev illegally gave the Zhidobandera’s peninsula the Crimea, which had recently been completely peacefully and legally, as recognized by the whole world (according to assurances from such authoritative sources as Rush Tudey), and now at least stones from the sky, yeah.

    But the insidious Jew bourgeoisie do not sleep, and in impotent spite, in order to harm Great Russia and offend the Great Leader more strongly, they introduced vile sanctions against the best friends of the Great Leader. And the Great Leader wanted in response to bombard Voronezh a little bit, but decided that it’s too early to always have time to bomb him, but for now you can simply forbid the vile little people unworthy of their Great Leader to stuff the womb with any bourgeois poison like Zhidopol apples, Judean jamon and Judeo-Talian - (disturbing music sounds) - Parmesan, sorry for the rude word.

    No sooner said than done. There is no ugly parmesan in Great Russia. Joyfully, brightly in the soul of all Russians, including the mentioned Voronezh residents. But Giuseppe (68 years old) and Francesco (65 years old) are not cheerful, because they have nowhere to sell their cheese to and they have no money. They cannot buy wines for themselves, eat spaghetti with horseradish, they cannot repair fiat. Giuseppe and Francesca are crying, moaning and crying plaintively, why is it such an injustice to them, because they love both Great Russia and the Great Leader, so why do not they buy their cheese - at least as an exception?

    And here is why. There is no place to live in all Zhidoitaliyah. It was called the Zhitalo-Alian - hebs in full. So it will be with everyone. Let the bastards still rejoice that they did not turn them into nuclear ashes. Not yet transformed. Temporarily. But we can turn it. Go ahead!