Communication vessel "Ivan Khurs" will be launched this fall

Severnaya Verf specialists installed the main engines on the Ivan Hurs communications vessel project 18280 under construction for the Russian Navy, the launch of the vessel is scheduled for autumn, reports press office enterprises.

Project 18280 "Yuri Ivanov"

“The total capacity of engines manufactured at the Kolomna Plant is 5500 l / s. They will allow the ship to reach speeds up to 20 nodes, ”the release says.

According to the information, “today, on order, the hull and superstructure are fully formed, outfitting, electrical installation, priming and insulation of the premises are being carried out, the hull coloring is starting.

The press service recalled that “Ivan Khurs” is “the first serial (second in a row) vessel of the 18280 project developed at the Iceberg Central Design Bureau,” is named after Vice-Admiral Ivan Kuzmich Hurs (29.09.1922 - 28.12.2002), who made outstanding contributions in the creation and development of permanent intelligence of the Navy. "

Earlier, in December 2014, the Russian the fleet the lead ship of the same project, Yuri Ivanov, was commissioned.

Manufacturer Help: “The communications vessel of the 18280 project is intended for communications, fleet management, radio intelligence. Due to its tactical and technical characteristics, it significantly exceeds analogs of previous generations. The ships have significantly improved their efficiency and operational characteristics; modern electronic digital control systems are used; extensive automation of communication and radio surveillance systems has been introduced. The ships of the 18280 project have excellent seaworthiness. ”

Comments

[Enoch]

Ok, wait for the fall. The more ships, the higher the sea level and the stronger the power of Russia. Thank God!

[Corsair0304]

Handsome men. There was one, they will build a brother. (The English phrase "sistership" is somehow unpleasant to me).

[Chills]

They called it notably. A self-explanatory name. With this you will not be spoiled.

[lelikas]

Quote: Oznob

They called it notably. A self-explanatory name. With this you will not be spoiled.

Yeah - they called it so called! Do not come up with a more suitable one.

[Manul]

Quote: Corsair0304

Beauties. There was one, they’ll build a brother.

Here is the older brother from the running. The soul rejoices.

But here's a question for the specialists. Why did the Defense Ministry order only two 18280s? (It would seem at least one for each fleet, or while the "oldies" still work?) Is that enough? And where will they be sent?
http://topwar.ru/34155-bolshoy-razvedyvatelnyy-korabl-yuriy-ivanov-proekt-18280-



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[NEXUS]

A very tricky and necessary ship. It is important that the series is appropriate for all of our fleets.

[chunga-changa]

We planned four, one per fleet.

[Manul]

Quote: chunga-changa

We planned four, one per fleet.

I apologize, but it seemed to me that we had five fleets. And I gave the link to VO just to confirm the data about two ships .. Could you refute my doubts more informatively?

[chunga-changa]

Four fleets and flotilla. These are different things, which is emphasized by different names. There were plans for four ships, what has become of the plans now I don’t know what will happen in the future - all the more so.

[cap]

"The specialists of Severnaya Verf have installed the main engines on the communication vessel Ivan Khurs, project 18280, which is under construction for the Russian Navy, the launching of the vessel is scheduled for autumn, the press service of the enterprise reports."

There was still joy in life launching the ship.
May God wait and not the last time!

[Hariton laptev]

Good news needed ships

[Galleon]

This steamer is from a hard worker breed. Before the Osnaz troops did not crawl out of the seas, their area of ​​operations was the widest in the fleet, from Boston to Los Angeles and from Iceland to Diego Garcia. Let them continue to go, there they deal in bulk. Well, the brigade would be like that for every fleet!
And look at his mast (photo from Corsair0304) - a scout's dream! At least I didn’t have enough of this at one time.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Galleon

This steamer is from a hard worker breed. Before the Osnaz troops did not crawl out of the seas, their area of ​​operations was the widest in the fleet, from Boston to Los Angeles and from Iceland to Diego Garcia. Let them continue to go, there they deal in bulk. Well, the brigade would be like that for every fleet!

Uv. navalbro (Oleg Rykov) has an excellent collection of stories "Charlie Charlie Bravo" - about the service on board the SSV-493 "Asia".
There is one description of how they almost dragged a target based on the "harpoon" from the Point Mugu test site.
Moreover, comments were given "from the other side" - from the sailors and officers of the KR URO "Legi", who fired at targets that day ... and who was prohibited from entering the base:

“Lie down,” I forbid entering San Diego until the rocket is found and returned!

Considering that the shooting took place on Friday and all weekend, "Legi chased" Asia ", persuading that to return the target ...

[Galleon]

I’m familiar with navalbro (Oleg) on ​​the cadet Bigler’s website (my nickname was KomREB), I read his stories with great pleasure and easy envy to his routes.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Galleon

I’m familiar with navalbro (Oleg) on ​​the cadet Bigler’s website (my nickname was KomREB),

The circle of these people is narrow.

At the time I was on Bigler in the comments dispelling the illusions of the combat readiness of the pre-war Red Army. Well, I went for maxez's comments on some of the subtle moments of the war on maintenance and fleet in general.

[Boatsman_Palych]

Thank you very much for the link to the book. He himself served as an urgent service on the Black Sea Fleet radio intelligence ships, went 2 times to the States to "mow" reconnaissance, which he just did not see. With great pleasure I will read about the service and adventures of the Pacific Fleet

[Ros 56]

It’s time to already make a cruise around Oyropa, preferably closer to the coast, to inquire about their secrets, that’s a squeal. But we didn’t violate anything, we have the right. and left too.

[Munchhausen]

Despite the development of technology, modern ships are very slow, in comparison with the ships of the Second World War. Will project 18280 be able to stay in the order at 20 knots of maximum speed? If 20 is the maximum, then how many nodes is cruising?

[dvina71]

Quote: Munchhausen

If 20 is the maximum, then how many nodes is cruising?

No more than 18uz. A warrant always goes at the speed of the slowest ship.

[chunga-changa]

Quote: Munchhausen

Will project 18280 be able to stay in the warrant

What order? These ships do not sail in squadrons and squadrons. The task is to arrive at the point and keep a record, or transfer, then to the next point, etc. Can be anchored next to the "object" for a week. Peacetime ships, purely symbolic weapons - two machine guns.

[Munchhausen]

Radio intelligence is needed, including as part of the warrant.

[Manul]

Quote: chunga-changa

What order? These ships do not sail in squadrons and squadrons. The task is to arrive at the point and keep a record, or transfer, then to the next point, etc. Can be anchored next to the "object" for a week. Peacetime ships, purely symbolic weapons - two machine guns.

Therefore, they are called peacefully - a ship. A warship pretending to be a "trawler". And without it, no one will really give out target designations until we flog from orbit again. It's like gunners. And therefore there should be a lot of them.

[Boatsman_Palych]

Ships of radio intelligence - and this is it, they write about the "fleet communications" for the fog - they don't go in the warrant, only individual campaigns, changing each other. In Soviet times, the fleets had 2 large reconnaissance aircraft and ten small ones. At the Black Sea Fleet now, instead of the 112 OSNAZ brigade, a division of radio reconnaissance ships remained, instead of 2 BRZK "Krvm" and "Kavkaz" - one BRZK "Priazovye" and three (if memory serves ) small - including the "Pilot", who became famous during the war between NATA and Serbia.

[Manul]

Quote: Munchhausen

Despite the development of technology, modern ships are very slow, in comparison with the ships of the Second World War. Will project 18280 be able to stay in the order at 20 knots of maximum speed? If 20 is the maximum, then how many nodes is cruising?

Without "Dawns" now everyone will not swim fast. There's nothing you can do. We will wait for our GTE. In principle, the PD-14 for aircraft also unexpectedly suddenly appeared. Who knows, maybe the ships are running faster than we expect, in spite of the enemies.

[hunt1]

someone would not say that shipbuilding is being revived, of course we always want to get faster, but as it is. right now about 250 ships and ships of various classes are being built at our shipyards, including 86 in the interests of the Navy and, moreover, the main bookmarks of 2016 have not yet been made .

[hunt1]

At the various stages of construction, 86 ships and vessels in the interests of the Navy. Of them:

26 warships.

14 submarines.

46 auxiliary (MPC and minesweepers seem to be auxiliary).
in July laid the nuclear submarine 885M Perm!

[Alexey RA]

The communications vessel of project 18280 is designed to provide communications, fleet management, and radio intelligence.

Chihix ... that’s because reinsurers - the main task, just in case, was mentioned at the end. And the second class of the ship was not mentioned at all. Because project 18280 is classified as a communications ship / medium reconnaissance ship.

[Sergey333]

Some of his forms are not modern, of the last century, but rather the end of the last millennium

[dvina71]

Quote: Sergey333

some of his forms are not modern, of the last century, but rather the end of the last millennium

These forms are the plot of the ideal load distribution. Does it make sense to change it? And for what?

[Roman 1977]

In the Caspian, everything is in chocolate so far, this is the only Navy unit capable of fully performing the assigned tasks: 2 missile defense systems pr.1166.1 "Dagestan" with "Caliber-NK", "Tatarstan" finally got out of repair, so a new one was installed on it Radar "Hals".

3 MRK pr.21631 with "Caliber-NK" together with "Dagestan" constituting the main striking force of the KFl, 3 IAC pr. 21630, RCA pr. 12411T R-101 "Stupinets" with anti-ship missiles P-15 (passes VTG), MAK- 160 "Gomel" pr.12411, DKA 5 "Serny", "Dugong", and three "old men" of project 1204 will not let you down.
True, in 2014, they brought out 3 RCA pr.206M, but the boats themselves are old, and the P-15M does not meet modern requirements. RCA pr.124121 with Kh-35 "Uran" and 3 PrdKA pr.21980 "Grachonok" are planned at KFL
There is a partnership with Iran, and the Navy of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan can not be taken into account. However, the number of IRAs pr 21631 on CFL plan to bring to the originally planned 6, after the end of the series for the Black Sea Fleet.
Baltika, too, is not all that bad: "Persistent" pr. 956-flagship, despite constant problems with DKU, time sometimes goes out to sea, showing the flag. True, it is a little unclear what will happen to "Restless", they do not repair, and do not need to handing over ... SKR pr.11540 "Fearless" under repair by the end of the year, perhaps, at last it will be equipped with strike weapons, at least X-35 "Uran", as on "Wise". The second TFR project "Yaroslav the Wise" after almost a year of repairs has already been noted in Mediterranean.

All 4 newest corvettes of Project 20380 (the situation with the "Guarding" is not clear, which after the fire on April 17.04.2015, XNUMX does not go to sea), regularly nightmare sprats and insignificant descendants of the Vikings.

The strike forces of the fleet are old but still very effective 4 MRK pr. 12341 and 7 RCA pr. 1241 (2 pr. 1241T with anti-ship missiles P-15. Plus the newest Dugongs and Raptors. In 2013, the landing forces were reinforced by the repaired Zubr "pr. 12322" Evgeny Kocheshkov ". The situation with the submarine has improved a little: the B-227" Vyborg "was repaired, which allowed the B-471" Magnitogorsk "to go home from the Northern Fleet. At the end of the year, they plan to transfer the repaired B-806" Dmitrov "to the fleet. The main problem in the Baltic is the absolute obsolescence of 6 MPK pr. 1331M, which do not have missile weapons (the Strela-2M MANPADS does not count). If they can still fight with the Polish (former Norwegian) Cobbens, then against the newest German pr. 212A, and especially the Swedish "Gotlands" with VNEU are absolutely helpless. However, with the arrival of the newest corvettes of the project 20380, they continue to be written off, so in 2014 they wrote off the MPK-105. This year the BF should also transfer the newest BDK, project 11711 "Ivan Gren ".

[Roman 1977]

The situation at the Black Sea Fleet has also changed for the better: the First Investigative Committee of the project 11356 "Admiral Grigorovich" finally arrived in Sevastopol on June 9, and the second TFR of the "Admiral Essen" project, which was delivered on June 7, is also going to come there.

The third ship of the project "Admiral Makarov" is undergoing mooring tests and is planned to be transferred to the fleet in August. It seems that they decided to complete the construction of the second three of the project, the construction of which was frozen due to the non-delivery of the gas turbine engine by Ukraine.
The renovated old Petrevestniks - Ladny and Pytlivy - are serving in Mediterranean. Another "old man" SKR "Sharp-witted" is constantly running there.

In 2014 the Bulgarians repaired the large landing craft of pr. 775 "Caesar Kunnikov", which was actively involved in the "Syrian Express". In 2015, the Black Sea Fleet received 2 MRK pr.21631 "Zeleny Dol" and "Serpukhov", which change each other in Mediterranean.

The departure to the Zvezdochka for the repair and rearmament of the Moskva has been postponed and the fleet will not be left without a long arm and a flagship, since it has been decided to dispose of the Kerch. But here, too, different options are possible: from the inclusion of "Admiral Gorshkov" in the Black Sea Fleet, to the transfer of "Yaroslav the Wise" from the Baltic Fleet. Submarine forces have sharply increased - by the end of this on the Black Sea they plan to have 4 diesel-electric submarines of pr.636.3, two of which are B-261 "Novorossiysk" and B-237 "Rostov-on-Don" are already based in Sevastopol, and B-262 "Old Oskol "is making an inter-fleet transition.

It will be followed by the B-265 Krasnodar, and the fifth B-268 Veliky Novgorod went to sea for the first time yesterday. She and the B-271 Kolpino are planned to be handed over to the fleet in November.
Plus, by the end of the year, they plan to withdraw the B-871 Alrosa from repair. And in general, the situation will already become bearable.
Next year, the Black Sea Fleet plans to transfer the third MRK pr. 21631 "Vyshny Volochek" which was launched on May 18 and the first patrol ship pr. 22160 "Vasily Bykoov" from the RC "Caliber-NK" in addition to 2 MRK pr. 1239 (MRK- 27 "Bora" passes VTG), 2 MRK pr.1234, 5 RCA pr.1241 (1 pr.1241T) and 6 MPK pr.1124 (MPK-217 "Yeysk" passes VTG in Sevastopol)
I hope that the fleet will still include captured Ukrainian ships, at least the most modern ones: BDK pr. 775 "Konstantin Olshanskiy", MPK pr. 11124M "Ternopil" and "Lutsk" and SRZK "Slavutich".

[sergeyzzz]

Quote: dvina71

These forms are the plot of the ideal load distribution. Does it make sense to change it? And for what?

This ship does not cost 2 kopecks, in addition to functionality, there should be an external aesthetics, but here they pushed a modern filling into the project of the 70s and it will do. So the question is, is it modern, but not the bookmark level of the first ship of the series in 2004? There is no rolling stock damper, engines like on a barge, no speed. This is very beneficial for the shipyard, no need to invest in a new project.