Rheinmetall Unveils New 130-mm Cannon in France

German industrial group Rheinmetall presented at the Eurosatory 2016 exhibition a new 130-mm cannon, which was announced at the beginning of the year, the blog reports bmpd.

“The barrel length of the new gun is 51 caliber. The new gun will have 50% more power ("perfomance") than the well-known 120mm / 55 tank gun Rheinmetall L55. The 130-mm gun has a vertical shutter, an oversized charging chamber, and the barrel’s inner surface is chrome-plated. The barrel is equipped with a heat shield, no muzzle brake. The total weight of the gun is about 3000 kg, including the weight of the barrel itself - 1400 kg, ”the resource writes with reference to the developer’s information.

For firing, it is planned to use “two types of promising unitary shots - an APFSDS with an elongated tungsten core and a partially combustible sleeve using a charge on gunpowder of a new type, as well as a multi-purpose high-explosive projectile with a programmable air undermining (HE ABM), based on a similar DMNNXX 120-mm projectile. "

Sample technical demonstrator of the new 130-mm / 51 tank gun Rheinmetall in the exhibition Eurosatory 2016. On the left - a demonstration of the differences 120-mm and 130-mm armor-piercing sabots.

According to representatives of Rheinmetall, the gun will be ready for serial deliveries closer to 2025. It is also noted that to install it on the Leopard 2, "a new tower is being developed, unified according to the chase with the existing tower of this tank."

In addition, the 130-mm cannon is planned to equip a promising tank, the development of which will be conducted by French and German designers.

Comments

[Ami du peuple]

Rheinmetall Unveils New 230-mm Cannon in France

Change the title! Otherwise, it can be assumed that the era of large armored ships is returning. To the joy of O. Kaptsov

[Pavel1]

the ejector is not visible, which means the tower will be without a crew.

[tiredwithall]

What are you picking on? Well, a little exaggerated. Maybe the 230th is the unconscious, subconscious dream of tank and BTR builders.

[siberalt]

"Barrel length of the new gun-51 caliber"
And why should the gun’s barrel length not be measured in calibers (as indicated in the article), but, for example, in parrots? Or do I not understand something? Who can explain?

[just exp]

length in gauges means proportion, muzzle energy depends on it. less length. less energy. and a fixed length does not display the proportion for different calibers. because say length of 5 meters will have a different proportion for different calibers. that is, 5 meters for 120 mm is not the same as 5 meters for 130 mm.

[ohtandur]

KV-2 seemed 220mm and it’s really a shaitan pipe

[Alexey M]

KV-2 serial
Combat weight, t 52
Classic layout
Crew, people. 6
History
Number issued, pcs. Xnumx
Main operators Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
dimensions
Body length, mm 6950
Case width mm 3320
Height, mm 3250
Clearance, mm 430
Reservation
Type of armor homogeneous rolled
Forehead of the hull (top), mm/deg. 75
Hull side (top), mm/deg. 75
Hull feed (top), mm/deg. 60-75
Bottom, mm 30 — 40
The roof of the body, mm 30-40
Front of the tower, mm / deg. Xnumx
The mask of the gun, mm / city. Xnumx
Board towers, mm / city. 75
The feed of the tower, mm / city. 75
weaponry
Caliber and brand of gun 1 × 152-mm tank howitzer mod. 1938/40 (M-10T)
Barrel Length, 24,3 Caliber
Gun ammunition 36 shells of separate-sleeve loading
Telescopic sight TOD-9, periscope sight PT-9, commander's panorama PT-K
Machine guns 3 × 7,62 mm DT-29
Mobility
Engine type 12‑cylinder V‑shaped liquid-cooled diesel engine
Engine power, l. with. Xnumx
Highway speed, km / h 34
Rough ground speed, km / h 16
Cruising on highway, km 250
Cruising cross country, km 150
suspension type torsion bar
Gradeability, hail. 36 °
Breaking wall, m 0,87
Overcoming ditch, m 2,7
Overcoming ford, m 1,6

[ohtandur]

oops. I'm sorry for the mistake. but 152 is also impressive

[vodolaz]

So this is what the gun looks like, which gathered Armata to beat. It turns out interesting: the tank was just introduced and it is still very secret, but at the same time the Germans say they will break it.

[Pereira]

And what do you command them to declare? What Armata is invulnerable?

[Kars]

And when 130 mm stood on the IS-7))

[Muvka]

230 mm? Powerful :) Correct. And I did not understand, so they still developed a tank about which there was an article recently, or are they just going to develop it? Those. the recently described will remain a prototype?

[Red_Hamer]

Work on it, work.

[iliitchitch]

The lads combed it after the "Armata", rushed to create and design.

[bad]

According to Rheinmetall, the gun will be ready for mass deliveries closer to 2025.

.. heh .. here are optimists! in 2025 the Germans may not be up to the guns for you .. if Germany itself still survives ..

[Vladimir61]

Or donkey will die, or check!

[Alex777]

I am glad that they are going to mess around until 2025.
Another 5 years will install them on old tanks.
By that time, you look, and NATO will be gone.

[Berkut24]

By 2025 ?! By this time, either the Turks will accept Germany as part of the caliphate, or the T-14 will receive its 152mm leopard opener.

[engineer74]

EMNIP, they have been sawing this gun since the 80s, without much success ... And I strongly doubt that it is ready for the series. I feel that the next modernization of "Leopard-2" will be without it, citing a lack of funds and an excess of 120mm rounds. And we will see the new tank in 20 years, and before that they will carry plywood models to exhibitions.
IMHO

[Skifotavr]

Quote: engineer74

EMNIP, they have been sawing this gun since the 80s, without much success ... And I strongly doubt that it is ready for the series. I feel that the next modernization of "Leopard-2" will be without it, citing a lack of funds and an excess of 120mm rounds. And we will see the new tank in 20 years, and before that they will carry plywood models to exhibitions.
IMHO

They already had a finished 140mm. Why they decided to make 130mm is a mystery. Maybe just "their people" had to cut a little denyuzhek.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Skifotavr

They already had 140mm ready. Why they decided to make 130mm is a mystery.

Most likely, the answer is simple - leo doesn’t pull 140 mm bandurin, so they decided to make the caliber smaller - to fit

[Skifotavr]

Quote: Albert1988

Most likely, the answer is simple - leo doesn’t pull 140 mm bandurin, so they decided to make the caliber smaller - to fit

Hmm ... I don’t know ... I wonder what the main customer of NATO calibers across the ocean thinks about this - approved or what?

[bogdan4ik]

A month ago, they blamed me for asserting that Maria Zakharova is an enemy of Russia and the Russian people. Today I read with this lady, a diplomatic person of the first magnitude Russia, deep regrets about the shooting of homosexuals in Orlando. Regarding the ISIS being killed by Iraqis, Syrians women,
, children, prisoners of war there is no regret and sympathy. There are no regrets and sympathies regarding the killed tens of thousands of Russians in the DPR and LPR, including Russian citizens who are volunteers and also women, children, and the elderly. But killing homosexuals is a very serious reason. An occasion also to call people on Facebook who do not share her opinion. In general, the deflection of Zakharova to the United States, as before Rogozin, took place. And I would like to advise minusers to think with your head, and not with your buttocks.

[Berkut24]

I won’t put a minus, but I recommend turning on the head. No need to regard diplomacy. as a place where you can chop off the truth-uterus with the cantanker at any time.
A significant event has occurred that the foreign ministry cannot ignore. Option 2.
The first is to express regret over the large number of corpses and demonstrate their participation - as is done at a magnificent funeral, when the relatives of the deceased first see the speakers who tell them "hold on" ... Etiquette so to speak.
And the second - to do as the Turks, who were officially glad that 50 "wrong people" went to the next world at the hands of an idiot who swore allegiance to ISIS. Do you want our Foreign Ministry to stoop to Erdogan's mongrels?

Leave alone to Zakharov. She is neither friend nor foe - she is a speaking ceremonial head.

[volodimer]

Our country adheres to traditional family values, but the method of reducing the gay population carried out in the United States is also not welcome. Regretting what happened is a NORMAL diplomatic norm. As for the lack of expression of regret over our losses on the part of the USA and the EU, this is a demonstration of their low moral level. We are not going to slide down to their inferiority. For misunderstanding this elementary logic, you get your minuses.

[Skifotavr]

Quote: bogdan4ik

And I would like to advise minusers to think with your head, and not with your buttocks.

Try it yourself first. In the sense of thinking.

[Raven]

Sorry, of course, but you are a moral person of a very ugly appearance ...

[primers]

In another source, the German’s words were brewed that this gun would fight with Armata ... Well, well, if they were messing with her until the 25th year, then let them, we won’t rush them. In general, all this looks like a stupid saber-rattling, they say, look, we can ... Russia is an aggressor ...

[Corsair0304]

A cannon, a cannon ... if they had presented it in a tower at the exhibition, so to speak, in full size, then yes. It is worth paying attention to. In the meantime ... the essence and the matter, maybe our really 152mm will be installed in the T-14. Then this German 130mm will go into being without being born.
And in general, I would like to see the tests of their promising 130mm and ours, now installed on the T-14.

[Engineer]

Wow! Already 50% percent more powerful , previously 15% wrote

[engineer74]

In general, it’s interesting, the shell is longer, heavier, manual loading - how will this affect the practical rate of fire and ammunition? Will they increase the cubic capacity of the tower and the blacks who are pitching from refugees? As a result, the meaning of such modernization is lost ... Sewed on soap ...
IMHO, of course.

[Vadim237]

In Leopard, they will find 2nd place for a new ammunition - maybe in their new tank there will be an automatic loader.

[engineer74]

The new tank is a pitchfork on the water - they have already washed down the "single NATO tank" in the 70s, as a result they received the Abrams, Leopard-2 and Challenger. Now the situation is different - there is no GSVG, so they will draw a new tank slowly, thoughtfully and stupidly, but in fact they will be limited to budgetary upgrades of available hardware and a declaration of the fantastic capabilities of a non-existent megatank. It will appear in the iron when and if we rivet 5-10 thousand "Armat", not earlier.
IMHO

[Vadim237]

"It will appear in iron when and if we rivet 5-10 thousand" Armat ", not earlier."
The Germans will quickly have a new tank - these guys have the best equipment for designing, as well as metalworking - they will do it ahead of the rest.

[engineer74]

Completely a German tank to cut their budget and the "electorate" will not allow, and the European cooperation slows down the project better than a nuclear strike.

[pavelty]

"greater power"? Laughed for a long time at the translation)

[evgen1945]

There is the power of a weapon - the power of a shell - what's so funny?

[Verdun]

Quote: pavlentiy

"greater power"? Laughed for a long time at the translation)

Interestingly, why laughed? This is not a translation, but a specific technical term used in artillery.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: pavlentiy

"greater power"? Laughed for a long time at the translation)

And what to laugh about? "Power" for artillery is a long-established term.

2A82. The high-power smooth-bore gun with the 2А82 auto-stitched and partially chrome-plated barrel is a completely new development, only externally similar to the previous generation 125mm tank guns.

Experimental tank gun of increased power 50L "Vityaz"

Along with it, guns of increased power of the caliber 125 mm (50L Vityaz) and 140 mm (55L Bagira) were also created.

[pavelty]

Hmm, I agree I did not know that there is such a term, it just seemed to me crookedly translated the word perfomance

[Alexey RA]

130 mm cannon on the tank? Somewhere I already saw it ...

The main weapon of the tank was a powerful 130-mm S-70 rifled tank gun with a barrel length of 57,2 caliber and an initial velocity of 33,4 kg of armor-piercing projectile 900 m / s, developed on the basis of a 130 mm naval gun.

And anyway - what kind of 130 mm? Where are the racially faithful Aryan 128mm?

[Zaurbek]

This is a sea caliber, the shell seems unitary.

[evgen1945]

The guys from Germany know how to build fluffs, if they bungled something, it means something more worthwhile. It is not for nothing that their trunks are on abrams.

[Verdun]

The new gun will have 50% more power ("perfomance") than the famous 120mm / 55 Rheinmetall L55 tank gun.

Even taking into account the increase in caliber, more than questionable data. Other sources write that an increase in armor penetration is expected by ten percent. But, in any case, this is serious. Such a gun is not a dubious achievement like a railgun. And Rheinmetall is a solid company. But something about the new weapon for the "Armata" has died down ...

[Grenader]

Quote: Verdun

But something about the new weapon for the "Armata" has died down ...

152 mm gun was tested at Object 195 i.e. on the T-95. We have a gun, and at any moment the UVZ can start the production of the T-14 with a 152 mm barrel.

[Vadim237]

"Even with the increased caliber, more than questionable data." Why are they questionable - the mass of the core increased by 30%, and the energy of the new propellants can increase the speed of the projectile over 2000 meters per second. The Germans have always had powerful tank guns.

[Verdun]

Quote: Vadim237

. Why are they doubtful - the core mass increased by 30%, and maybe the energy of new gunpowders increases the speed of the projectile over 2000 meters per second.

The energy of gunpowder must still withstand the barrel. At the same time, how is it known that the core mass increased by 30%? What, has someone already weighed?

[Drzog]

such as the German answer to the cannon of armata? Well, we'll see, but it looks more like speculation

[Diviz]

On the armature is already 152mm.

[Verdun]

Quote from DiViZ

On the armature is already 152mm.

Where? Bye - unless in the picture ...

[Vadim237]

This gun on Armata stands in dreams, but it seems that dreams will remain dreams.

[kolexxx]

So far, the best weapon for the fight against Armata is Alfa-Bank, which is managed through the Cypriot offshores, and does not abandon its attempts to bankrupt Uralvagonzavod.

As is known since antiquity, even the most impregnable fortress can take a donkey loaded with gold.

[Jurkovs]

Is God on the side of large calibers?

[sergeyzzz]

Quote: vodolaz

So this is what the gun looks like, which gathered Armata to beat. It turns out interesting: the tank was just introduced and it is still very secret, but at the same time the Germans say they will break it.

"Partners" are also not baked, the characteristics are secret for us, and since the device has reached mass production, too many people know the technical characteristics. The Germans had the same groundwork, so they rolled it out on the sly, in order to knock out funding.

[Operator]

The T-14 "Armata" was originally designed for the smoothbore 152mm 2A83 gun with a muzzle energy of 25 MJ - 100 percent more than the 120mm Rheinmetall L-55 gun. The muzzle velocity of a 152-mm armor-piercing sub-caliber projectile with a length of 1200 mm is 1980 m / s or 6,5 M (the railgun nervously smokes bamboo).

The 283 separate loading gun was fully developed at the 195 facility. Located in an uninhabited fighting compartment of the T-14, an automatic loader with a vertical arrangement of shells and charges provides a compact placement of ammunition from 36 rounds in the tank hull dimensions.

The new 130-mm unit loading gun, as well as the 1980-mm XM-140 unitary loading gun developed in the 291's, while maintaining the habitable fighting compartment, requires an extra-long loading automatic loader in the rear of the turret. This reduces ammunition to 22 rounds, increases the tower’s reserve volume and reduces its defense.

Photo Abrams ATAC with 140-mm gun XM-291

[beard64]

...
- yep
. and suddenly - this will not fit into the tower .. ??

[Raider]

If you face the truth, without a hat, then at one time the 120 mm / 55 Rheinmetall L55 tank gun was the best in its class. It is installed on almost all NATO tanks and many other countries. Please note, the gun is without a muzzle brake! How do they solve the problem of reducing the rollback is a question. How many shots the gun is designed for, i.e. the quality of the barrel. The accuracy of the weapon largely depends on this. They will only hit the speed of the projectile and the muzzle energy seems to me wrong. This is a serious opponent. Remember the domestic 57 mm and 76 mm cannon, the first is more anti-tank than the second, but the second is more effective as a fight against lightly armored targets, protected structures and infantry. And the famous "88", remember how the Germans made it a tank? It is necessary to study in order to select the best and keep up with the times, but it is better to be two steps ahead of the opponent. One OKB is good, 2 is even better.

[Evil 55]

By 2015, in Europe, given the ostentatious tolerance and dominance of gays, only one gun will be needed, and one in torn African pants ...

[Zaurbek]

We need to wait, the 125mm gun on Armata and the T-90SM has an extended BPS and a larger charge, respectively, more penetration than the old 125mm and 120mm guns. 130mm is an analogue in power and penetration. I suspect that the caliber is 140mm when installed in traditional tanks such as Leo, Abrams, T-90, etc. will cause problems with the amount of ammunition and the strength of the tank itself (due to greater returns). Just Armata is not threatened by the layout and freshness of the project. Therefore, you need to wait until the NATO countries massively re-equip 130mm guns and make a choice of caliber for our tank gun, and at the moment, upgrade the T-72/90 with a new 125mm gun with a new automatic loader and new BPS, with the production of which we have problems.

[chunga-changa]

Well, great, now ours will begin to seriously move with a 152mm gun.

[Zaurbek]

Replacing a new gun on NATO tanks is a simpler task than on the T-90. they do not have an automatic loader and more mass and reserve volume. We even have a transition to a new 125mm elongated projectile requires a replacement automatic loader. On NATO tanks, this is simply limited by the strength of the barrel. it’s just that the modernization potential of the 120mm gun has been exhausted, 125mm no matter how you twist more than 120mm and we have not yet exhausted the potential for increasing projectile energy

[Operator]

And the fact that the 130-mm unitary shot is one third heavier than the 120-mm German tankers nevermind: they will put the importing blacks on top of the charge - that's all

[bmv04636]

T14 Armata + super-gun 152 mm caliber
We have a shell burning a meter of steel, we will put it on Armata, ”Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, responsible for the military-industrial complex, told Izvestia.
But what kind of gun is this and what kind of shell does Rogozin mean? In an interview with KP, Viktor Murakhovsky, member of the expert council of the Board of the Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation, answered this question as follows:
The gun already exists. It was developed as part of the development of the T-95 tank. I can even name the brand of this gun - 2A83. She successfully passed tests, including with new types of ammunition. In fact, this gun can penetrate more than a meter of steel.
The inventor of the new weapon was the artillery factory No. 9 in Yekaterinburg, which is part of the Uralvagonzavod research and production corporation. And on shells - this is the Techmash Corporation, which is engaged in the development of ammunition for tank, artillery and sea guns.
I attended a conference where the results of the development of new ammunition for the new tank gun on the topic "Slate" were presented. There were shown photographs of real “work” as armor-piercing subcaliber and cumulative ammunition. Therefore, I can responsibly declare that the expression “more than a meter” is true.
The 152 mm 2A83 super-gun on Armata today is already an “open secret”. Many experts have foreseen this and consider the 2A83 tank gun the best in the world.
But for now, 2A82 is enough for us.

[Skifotavr]

Quote: bmv04636

But for now, 2A82 is enough for us.

And then, as always, it will be too late.

[ssergn]

Here I read comments and one thing comes to mind - people, why did you beat WoT? Do you dream about tank battles and duels (did you remember Prokhorovka)? This will not be a little less than never. The main enemy of the tank today is the infantry with anti-tank systems and turntables, and there are also attack aircraft and just bombers. What else - MLRS did not forget? Cluster munitions used in Syria by RNK 500 with SPBE elements - this is how they, emnip, are used in the MLRS (Tornado).
What is the tactics of combat use of tanks today? How many anti-tank rounds are there in a tank?
Recent events - Debaltseve. What is it that they burned armored vehicles? Not tanks at all, they used MLRS, if I'm not mistaken.
So shta - the existing caliber suits the customer, that is, the RF Ministry of Defense. And work is underway on the "Armata" gun just to increase the power both through the use of other ammunition, and changes in the characteristics of the barrel. What, by the way, has already been "hinted at" and even openly discussed. Well, do not forget that with an increase in caliber, the number of shots in the pack decreases. Therefore, they are looking for a compromise, not pipi ... sorry they are measured by calibers.

[Uzer 13.]

the gun will be ready for serial deliveries closer to 2025 g

That is, nothing was done but the layout. There is nothing to set against the T14 and T90, so they combed themselves.

"According to TASS, the German defense concern Rheinmetall Defense has developed a new tank gun to combat modern T-14 tanks on the Armata platform and the latest T-90 modifications."
http://www.gorodche.ru/news/world/76703/

[fa2998]

Quote: just explo

work is going on.

"They" had 120 mm., We have 125 mm. (Including the "Armata"). Now "they" have a 130 mm gun. We have pulled ahead. The firm "Rheinmetall" is a solid office, these will be put into production and the tanks are being modernized. And so there we are working on a tank gun 130-152 mm. Silence.
And no need to shout "Hurray" at "Armata". The tank is first of all a CARRIAGE FOR THE ORUDIYA. Yes, the crew is reliably protected, it is unlikely that the tower is protected, the withdrawal of the gun and the turret leads the tank into a useless toy. The Germans' ammunition has SIGNIFICANTLY increased.

[erik cartman]

Quote: Operator

And the fact that the 130-mm unitary shot is one third heavier than the 120-mm German tankers nevermind: they will put the importing blacks on top of the charge - that's all

And if the blacks refuse such an honor. For the sake of what they plow on white. It’s easier to sit on the allowance (neck) of gay-European citizens. But how the Germans solve the loading problem is interesting. And how much money is needed for the re-equipment of all Leopards, Leclerks, Challengers and further on the list. The air smells like another cut of dough :)

[Operator]

It was sarcasm in response to the comment: "Even the transition to a new 125mm long projectile requires replacement of the automatic loader. On NATO tanks, this is simply limited by the strength of the barrel."

In reality, the Germans clearly associate the increase in the caliber of the tank guns with the development from scratch of an automatic loader (unlike us, where it is already installed on the T-14).

One of the paper projects of the automatic loader for the Leopard-2